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Bryan Singer is returning to helm X-MEN: FIRST CLASS!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... From the AVATAR world premiere press line, Eric Goldman of IGN chatted with Bryan Singer and learned that after Bryan directs JACK THE GIANT KILLER, he'll direct X-MEN: FIRST CLASS. Which has been described as an "origin film" - whatever that may mean.
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...will Wolverine have a cameo in this so we don't have an X-men movie without Logan crying?
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Singers continuity is so fucked already he should just start from scratch again. Fucking Ratner.
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I hate origin stories for established properties. Why don't they just tell a bigger X Men story and tie it into Avengers?! Stupid to go backwards...
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make it better than his superman and i'm in
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I want the black and yellow suits. I want crazy Rogue flying through the air. I want Wolverine climbing up Sentinals back and chopping their heads off. No damn prequels, no origins, just bring back Xavier, and start where X-Men 3 left off and lets get to some real X-Men action for crying out loud.
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am under your bed.
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to paraphrase the simpsons; just put it in the mail and send it to 2004, when I might have cared.
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You heard me, beat it motherfucker, beat it now.
Yes, that's the way Daddy likes it.
DID I TELL YOU TO STOP?!?!?! KEEP BEATING IT YOU LITTLE SHIT!!!! -
If this is a reboot. I know that's a BIG "if"...but IF it's a reboot, look no farther than Jared Padalecki as Scott Summers.
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FBI is on the case
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Wow some devotion and passion you have for the World's Greatest Superhero there, Singer.
This guy has proven to be a fake and loud-mouth phony. Shame, because Superman Returns, despite its flaws, had real power and substance.
I think this guy would say anything to get a high profile gig.
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The first two X-Men films were decent but still not the films the source material needs or deserves. THe following three films were horrendous unwatchable crap. Seriously some of the worst comics films ever. The franchise needs a reboot BADLY, but I don't think Hollywood is anywhere near the point where they would do it right. Take 5 years off then try again with someone with actual vision who can direct on an epic scale with lesser known actors, and by unknown I do not mean awful CW actors.
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for director.
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Not three.
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Not three, in the words of Optimus Prime, My bad.
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I'm going to sum up this talkback now:
X3 sucked, Superman was boring, Ratner sucks, Singer is gay, Singer ruined the series by leaving, prequel is a bad idea...
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I deserve it ;)
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Besides Singer being gay being used by bigot fucking assholes as a negative, is any of that not inarguably true? The answer is no, in case you didnt know.
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Liked X-Men, LOVED X2 while X3 is sitting next to my shitter as emergency asswipe. Singer, like Raimi, had his chance to make a great trilogy and FUBAR'D it right in the pooper. The less said about Stalkerman the Creepy Alien Deadbeat Dad the better. I'm tired of this fucking series and tired of Singer unless he wants to go back to making interesting movies like Apt Pupil which is highly underrated.
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If anyone can restore some of the luster that the X-Men franchise lost with X-Men: Last Stand and Wolverine, it's Bryan Singer. HE is afterall, the reason superheroe movies took a more serious tone with A-list actors and directors attached (Spiderman, Batman, Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk and upcoming Thor & Captain America projects).
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And Raimi fucked up at 1.
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Make X-Men parts 4 and 5, about Sinister (part 4) and Apocalypse (part 5).
Bring back the adventure of number 2, none of this school stuff.
Line-up of the team as follows ; Wolverine, Storm, Shadowcat, Colossus, Rogue, Nightcrawler,Angel.
Have Gambit be a "gun for hire" from Sinister who joins the X-Men, and of course have Angel be transformed by Sinister into Archangel.
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I agree with the previous talkbacker that none of the Xmen films lived up to the level the source material deserves. Singer is overrated, I always thought so and superman returns finally revealed his flaws to all the people who were kissing his ass after x2 which was good but not GREAT! REBOOT the fucking serious already with a new director, new visioin, bigger budget, and needless to say, WITHOUT ROTHMAN!
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continue where X2 left off, sum up x3 as a bad dream, or jean grey's "visions" of the future while dying... x3 never happened, lets move on
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It can be Singer's "Oh my bad, here's what I MEANT to do..."
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Dec 17, 2009 1:57:19 AM CST
I wouldn't give credit to Bryan for making super hero flicks ser
by shermdawg
Rothman nixing a good portion of the properties fantastical elements played a big part in that.
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and he took it. Beisdes he hated working for fox anyway. He wanted one thing fox wanted another and he got overruled. So as a big FU to fox he went and made the film he always wanted. He did a swap with brett Ratner. imagine a Brett Ratner Superman movie.
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"Enough with the Remakes!"
"Reboot!"
"Are there no original ideas in Hollywood?"
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serious/ series.
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It can be HIS "Oh my bad, here's what I MEANT to do..."
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Bryan Singer hasn't made a bad comic book movie yet, IMO. Superman Returns wasn't great, but it was a good, solid tribute. Just maybe not what we needed in this day and age.
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Rothman and Berry drove him away from the franchise. It just happened to be at the time the competition needed someone.
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Yeah, I'd argue with all of them, and they are only truths to you.
I liked X3, I didn't think Superman Returns was terrible, just a little slow. I think talkbackers are WAY too hard on Ratner for no good reasonm I have no issue with homosexuality (and it looks like you don't either), and a prequel/reboot is a great idea if it features the original X-Men lineup of Marvel Girl, Cyclops, Iceman, Angel and Beast. -
They should be teens, like they were in the books. It would be great if there wasn't like a 10 year age difference between Scott and Jean.
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Notice how almost all the major characters were killed off in X3? It's because that fucking bitch wanted the series to herself which is also the reason why she chased after Catwoman. Barry is an over rated cunt who wanted a franchise and helped bury X3.
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you should know its time for a complete overhaul. Singer shouldn't be welcomed back b/c his Origins film will always be tied w/ Ratner's turd.
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...without Singer and his Dark Phoenix flicks, Scott wasn't given a proper buildup and was pretty much worthless at that point. Rushing the film, and shoehorning that storyline into X3 didn't leave room for his survival.....it did leave room for Cyc to take Wolvie's place in the finale, but we just have to have muttonchop man hog the screentime didn't we?
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If you're gonna blame him for anything, blame him for stupidly thinking the Dark Phoenix storyline couldn't fill a entire movie.
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Dec 17, 2009 2:19:12 AM CST
Spiderman and XMen both fell from grace with their 3rd movies.
by keepfuckingthatchicken
Hopefully, both 4th movies go back to the quality of the first 2.
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He fucked up the Xmen franchise by abandoning a trilogy before the third part. And he fucked up Superman, because ... well... maybe he always wanted to fuck Superman. Who knows?
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The studios fucked both franchises. At least Fox knows what they want to do with theirs....for better or worse.
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I like Wolverine and all, but other characters have interesting story arch's also. This is definitely a step in the right direction. I wonder who the villains are going to be?
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with xmen, he revitalized the comic book genre movie hopefully fox will give him everything he wants to be bale to make the movie he wants....but i doubt it...rothman is a motherfucker
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It was going to be two films. He even mentioned that he would've liked to do a comic adaptation of them with Marvel....after he left the projects.
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http://tinyurl.com/ycdlbyn
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That may be true but the guy is a bad director and all of his comic book movies are bland and this new movie will most certainly be awful unless he has some new tricks of his sleeve or something.
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Maybe once Avatar cracks its first billion, originality will become acceptable in Hollywood again.
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Did someone really just call Avatar "original"?
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origin stories. The audience needs to stop being so damn lazy when a movie comes out and make a trip to Barnes and LOLble and at least thumb through a comic. Stop dumbing down the possible awesomeness of stories by trying to catch the world up to plotlines and characters they've made clear they don't give a shit about. Especially soccer moms and teenybopper chicks. They're the worst.
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thinking maybe I'll finally see where all the Aint it cool fan hate comes from with it... cause it's only here on these boards i see X-3 fan hate.... and low and behold... i enjoyed it completely. Great film, and heaps better than X-2.... yeah i know, I'm an idiot.... there's something wrong with my brain.... all that shit.... but damn, X3 is a really good movie and always was for me. don't quote the comics to me, they don't exist in this dojo, right? From X1, to the abismal X2..... X3 was fantastic!Bryan singer coming back to re-boot it just makes think one thing.... Gay
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They are getting real tired. As far as Singer returning to the X world, its not all that exciting. His X movies don't hold up well on repeated viewings.How about giving a hungry up and comer a shot?
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bland? the man was given a tiny budget for xmen, and still was able to flesh out characters past the 2d stage x2 not only respects its source material, but works on more than one level (amazing how fox made sure that the most interesting character from x2 (night crawler) doesnt return in x3 supes returns was bad, because it was an homage to supes 1, rather than be an entire reboot just not sure how you can say that singer is a bad director the ratt is a bad director...he is a paint by numbers director michael bey is a bad director...take away the cgi and explosions and he has yet to make a movie roland emerich is uwe boll with a bigger budget (the man made cusack look stupid...fuckin impossible to do) but singer is an actors director...and i trust him to do the right thing with first class...i just hope he uses children of the atom as the movie's bible
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I completely agree (except for the 'gay' part which I hope is just a holdover 'playground' expression for lame), and I've NEVER understood where all the hate for it comes from.
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you are a fuckin homophobe and i hope aicn bans your ignorant ass and i suggest you take a hike over to imdb and read all the hate threads about x3 that movie was a total waste of good celluloid
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Actually, that's not true...If anything, Blade revitalized the comic book movie genre. Btw, Ratner is not the blame for the X3 clusterfuck. It was Fox's/Rothman's not willing to push back the production of X3 by one year, so Joss Whedon could get a proper working script in order. Rothman approaced Joss to direct X3 after Singer decided to do Superman. Joss was game to do it, but only if he was given a year to properly prep the script. Rothman and Fox said no, due to already having designated X3 as their Summer tentpole release for that year...Then Matthew Vaughn was hired, then fired due to personality conflicts with the producers. With time becoming a factor, and the availability Ratner as a hired gun to direct it sight unseen. (Well, you know the rest). The funny thing about the production, though, was after Ratner read the script, he tossed it aside, and pretty much used Joss Whedon's first story arc from his stint with the Astonishing Xmen comic as the working script/storyboards. Commercially it all worked out in the end, considering X3 turned out to be a big hit.
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With the exception of the "Bad Peter" dance montage, it really wasn't a bad film at all.
When people gripe about S2 and use the dance as their example of shittiness, I'm always reminded of the kind of children that won't eat anything on their plate because there's one thing they don't like. OK kid, it's OK not to like the brocoli, but the meat and potatoes are FUCKING DELICIOUS. Give it a try and an iopen mind for fuck's sake. -
comic con sold out its 4 day passes a month ago the one days will be gone by the end of next week and it aint the geeks buying up the tiks...its the suits and a ton of wannabees, looking for the next best thing...which means more movies based on comics not that there have been that many...its just that they are talked about ad infinitum
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this is just retarded.
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Uh... Rotten Tomatoes, IMDB, a bunch of reviews when it first came out. I could go on. Not that it was horrible, it wasn't, but like with Spiderman and Superman Returns there was so much more they could have done. Had some interesting ideas, great base to build from, ruined in the execution. It's frustrating. Same type of thing with Blade 3, Catwoman, Wolverine (although those films were FAR worse). Spiderman 2, X2, Iron Man, and Dark Knight weren't perfect, but they were way better for obvious reasons.
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bad story, nonsensical character changes, the stupid team up that made no sense, Spidey stopping to pose in front of the flag, Sandman vanishing halfway through and Venom being thrown in at the last minute, oh and Mary Jane being a selfish pouty whore. and that just off the top of my head. fucking awful movie.
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Origin of Wolverine. Wolverine ain't THE X-MEN.
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why? because i think Superman returns is gay. it is. Made by a gay man. Bryan singer is gay right? does just saying it make me a bad person? Gay is two men engaging in anal sex, with fumes. ik don't think you guys have actually considered this act. It's not for me, but if it's for you... then go ahead. Don't be hating me, I'm not even interested in the female butt hole. I like pussy and thats just fine.
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not as good as 2, and it could of been so much better. i think thats the general consensus.
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I love being industry and getting my 100% FREE PASSES in May. Kills your theory, huh? Comic-Con sells out because of the THOUSANDS of geeks like you (and me if I had to actually pay) that come, not because of "suits". Come on, have you actually been there? There's no one that carries themselves with the air of being a suit looking for the next big thing. No one.
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vampires sell, comic book or not had xmen failed, the chances of other superhero movies getting off the ground, was slim to none and ya, i know the story behind what happened with x3, but if the ratt had any self respect, he wouldnt have taken on the project...he did, because like rothman, he has very little respect for the genre he used whedon's first arc? where in that mess called a movie do you see that?
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at least, i hope not. well maybe a little
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sorry
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...guaranteed financially successful flick that would give him some leverage in picking the projects he wanted in the future. Whether you like his work or not, it was a smart business decision.
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...and Vinnie Jones mug was on the tv.
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if you ARE gay and hate yourself for it.
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the ill-advised incorporation of one the most "ICONIC" storylines in comic book history (THE PHOENIX SAGA) into a 90 min. movie. The Phoenix Saga should've been a two part, 2 hour+ movie in itself. What they (Fox/Rothman) did, was condense it into a glorified Cliff Note afterthought. Totally disrespectful and unforgivable.
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YEAH! So was that Sound of Music shot with Wolverine at the end!
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i dont have the baggage of the comics or the cartoon telling me the phonix storyline is shit. she the reason i loved X1 was it was grounded as a story about people evolving, and the teams that formed were all capable of fighting and we would see who had power over others. it was good fun. X2 had none of that. it was BORING. and the acting, my God.... GAY (and i dont say that as a homophobe, i say that as 'this is gay'[just a word guys, you get my meaning]) X3 went back to that old powers clashing storyline of the first. it is, to me the best contination from the first film. and i love the battle at the end, and taking into consideration that we're seeing who is the most powerful of all the mutants... it turns out to be Wolverine.... but only JUST. that was GREAT. I loved it. fuck you all and your ridiculous hate.dont even get me started on superman returns.
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I don't which is worst, Fox's rape of the Xman or their total disregard of the mythology of the Fantastic Four and Dr. Doom. That shit still hurts.
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Make a flick set post X-Men 4 about the new, hip, teen cast (use either X-Factor or New Mutants characters) with the elder statesmen X-Men characters as their teachers, instead of a prequel with zero stakes and probably tons of continuity glitches and no Wolverine. I didn't hate X-Men 3, mostly because it went balls to the wall with killing and depowering across the board. It was the first X-Men movie that felt like a big, issue #50 or #200 or an Annual where NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME AGAIN! But, if people are bitching about that... it's the fucking X-Men! This shit happens to them, like, daily and they're resurrected by next weekend. It was actually more true to the spirit of most X-Men comics than Singers flicks. But, where was I? Yeah, prequel boo. Soft reboot semi-sequel, yay.
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origin stories.
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...entity in the Marvel Universe this side of Galactus and reduced her to playing sidekick to Magneto.
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I had a whole Fuck Life spiel going before I reread it. I'm not a fan of First Class - I'm not a fan of prequels in any way - but it's Singer. Awesome.
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Or something new or something that moves forward. Why relive a past whose result we already know?
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Dec 17, 2009 3:24:23 AM CST
No I don't get your meaning of "Gay" Benders, explain
by industrykiller!
explain how X2 is a "gay" film. My God you sound like a fucking douche bag.
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Fuck second string mutants. And did y'all ever consider that this will set up a X4? What better way to resurrect Scott and Jean than to have a certain someone overlooking him in the shadows as a "kid" in The First Class.
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then you should have every comic book you own burned in front of you and never be allowed to experience the medium again. What kind of ridiculous asinine horseshit is that? It's amazing to me that these fuckin clowns still think action = comic character X. What a small degree of intellect one must have to possess to be a fan of something your entire life and still understand it so little.
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...it's not too hard to see the homosexual themes in X2. Bobby coming out to his parents, anyone? But the parallel fits perfectly with the property and this day and age. Some people can't seem to understand that. The bad thing about this being a prequel though, that sort of thing will be revisited, and probably will play much more of a factor. We've done that, we need the "being different" driven storylines to be pushed to the background and actual relationships given the spotlight. THAT is what the major draw of this series has always been.....but unfortunately, with the way this series has set up the characters, those relationships most liekly won't end up happening until a reboot.
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The advocate had a write up about it where the interviewed the writers and Ian McKellan. The film was full of gay subtext.
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...Luke Skywalker and giving the flicks to Solo, but nowhere near as cool as that would've been.
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Not that hard...
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Never seen him die, never seen his body. Maybe in First Class he recounts his early years to Emma Frost while being nursed back to health after the Phoenix incident.
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... that is all
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It's so fucking boring, I hate origin stories, they're even more pointless if all the characters have already been established.
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Studios only care about people who have no idea about sweet f**king nothing. Real fans are a minority when compared with non fans. It works but it hurts. I personally don't like Singer's X-men films because it's about 2% accurate to source...
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...then keep Wolverine as a side figure and use what are undoubtedly great characters that have been somewhat neglected in the Ratner/Singer-verse. Seeing what Grant Morrison and Mark Millar has done with these ideas in recent comic books shows that the potential hasn't been tapped fully yet. For me, I'd go for a continuation of X3 as origins are getting a bit stale and that Wolverine film was simply appalling. The X-Men re-group on Muir Island in dissarray, an (apparently) weakened Magneto comes to them for help to retrieve his son and daughter (Pietro and Wanda) from captivity in Genosha. They agree on the terms that in mounting a stealth attack they can get to use valuable genetic technology that can save the ailing reincarnation of Prof X. Queue lots of material on Genosha's infrastructure, spy-stuff, action sequences etc as allied to a road movie/war movie template. Whilst out there they get sabotaged by Stephen Lang and Bolivar Trask attempting to negotiate tech to float the Sentinel program and then double-crossed by Magneto who has intended to capture the country all along as a 'promised land' for mutants. Also they stumble onto, cloned from material located from San Francisco, a half-formed Jean Grey - all of which sets up a further three films.
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Boy, would I like to be there when she does it!
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What's more original, making a fifth movie about characters others created, or making the first movie about characters you created?
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Xavier will start teaching the Beast when Xavier's about twenty, then ten years later he'll start teaching Jean Grey, then Ten years later he'll start teaching Cyclops, then about five years later Iceman and Angel...? First class indeed. Throw out the established "movie continuity" and start over or do nothing.
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Direct to video crap? Sounds LOVELY!
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Dec 17, 2009 6:13:02 AM CST
TEhCreepTHINMAn ur a FUCKTARD X1 &X2 are the ones Sitting next t
by superwelling
x3 was awesome!! agian x1 &x2 were GARBAGE IN EVERY WAY!
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Dec 17, 2009 6:26:45 AM CST
In two years when they are close to filming i will comment....
by thedannerdaliel
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Get someone else, fer Christ sake. At least try making them look like the X-men and design the costumes more faithfully to how they are in the actual comics.
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Sounds great, I'll be there opening day.
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They can't seem to get superhero movies right. Too much pendulum swing, either campy, or too deadly serious / embarrassed by the source material. For DC, give us a world of wonder and otherworldly danger, with iconic imagery. For Marvel, flawed heroes is fine, but with the fun of the make believe, and no wimping out on mixing nearly every genre -- such as the supernatural with super-science -- in that way Marvel does.
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please. for the love of god. don't you want to get laid eventually?
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Come on in then! Get yourself somethin' to eat with that X-MEN money, bubba!!! Oh, and thanks for leaving us with FUCKING BRETT RATNER to finish off (destroy) what you started.
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"HTTP Acrobat PDF Suspicious File Download"Originating from IP number 193.104.12.15,80... which is listed as http://speedconnection.cn/international/files/annonce.pdfThis didn't just happen once, randomly. It's happened 9-10 times in a row as I accessed the AICN website. Specifically targeting my IP number. Harry, if you don't like someone who posts on your website... just ban them. But don't try and hose their computer by downloading malicious files when they visit AICN. That's both fucked up and cowardly.
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we are all getting it, numbskull.
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I had to remove Adobe Acrobat Reader from by computer just to be able to post the previous. Nothing that can't be fixed.Any other tricks, Harry?
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Dec 17, 2009 7:25:04 AM CST
Bryan is like an old whore working the same corner for years
by yackbacker
His vagina is dry and uninspired- like bad pizza. This town needs a new, moist pizza-vaginaed whore!
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was a right royal bitch to singer. and on the the DVD´s for x-men and x-men2 it goes into a lot of detail about the bts war between Singer and the fox board.
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They ALL fucking suck, without exception. Just quit it already Hollywood idiots.
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...and look up "Kills George Lucas with a Shovel." That pretty much sums up my thoughts on so-called "prequels" and "reboots." (If you don't have the time to look it up, Oswalt is a stand up comedian, and has a mock conversation with Lucas, where Lucas (back in 1994 thanks to the help of a time machine) divulges the plots to the prequels, and Oswalt says that those ideas are terrible. Lucas then asks if he would like some ice cream, which Oswalt excitedly accepts, and Lucas gives him rock salt. Lucas tells him with a little process, the rock salt easily becomes ice cream and so on. Oswalt screams, "I don't give a SHIT where the stuff I like comes from, I just like the stuff that I LIKE!" He then says to Lucas, "Do you like Angelina Jolie? Does she give you a boner? Here, then, here's a picture of Jon Voigt's balls!" That's where SHE came from, isn't that more enjoyable than actually looking at Jolie herself?)
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and a shonky one at that, time to give up.
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done the first two x-men movies. gotten superman out of his system. then made x-men 3.
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The guy is a fucking joke.
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try thinking progressively for a change...move forward...we know who these characters are, already...origins are boring and many want to see these characters in costume NOT watch them discover their powers, yet again....
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Dec 17, 2009 8:00:49 AM CST
at least i have solace in knowing singer won't be allowed near s
by astral_projector
yes, there is a santa claus
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fuck routh, too
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"Yawn"
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This is exactly what fans DON'T want! Fucking re-re execs!
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"We killed Captain Amazing!"
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I enjoy the first two X Men films but I don't rate them as highly as a lot of people do. Superman was terrible, but then again I've never been a fan of Supes. Just don't understand why people like this character so much. He's shit. Anyway, Singer is a hugely over rated film maker.
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it have the inevitable Bryan Singer Shower Scenes like APT PUPIL where the "first class" gets it on with each other? I expect so. And that's really, really awful. Naaaaaaaahhhhh, when has Singer ever used creepy underage gay symbolism?
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Is anyone interested in a prequel? Why not a 4th X-Men film?
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Dec 17, 2009 9:01:39 AM CST
I get the feeling this is why all these "origin stories" are mad
by kevred
Two reasons:
1) It's a way to theoretically draw out the money-making life of a franchise. An origin story is the equivalent of treading water. Geeks will all see it, and enough others, that they can get a pretty hefty gross without burning up too much of the potential storylines. That leaves more left to tell in later movies. (Note: this may still not be told, or told well, but who cares, right?)
2) It allows a younger and younger cast to stuff the film with. Which helps us is our pathetic, insecure desire to try and win over some of the 'Twilight' generation.
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That it takes place prior to the events of the X-Men trilogy. It is about the original X-Men forming their team at Charles Xavier's academy.I assume Patrick Stewart will only be in a few scenes so the anti-aging software doesn't cost a fortune.
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I love Singer's X-Men. X2 is the in the top 5 greatest superhero flicks of all time. Search your hearts, you know this shit be true.
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they'll find a way to shoehorn Wolverine into this movie.
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He had conflicts with a couple of other movies (including Hairspray ) so he agreed to come back for a quick kill off
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Made the better X-Men movies, I say go with the flow and give him another go.
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Black leather and speedos. Naaaaah, Bryan Singer being gay had nothing to do with that.
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That's my favorite Oswalt skit. I love how he does the George Lucas voice. Anyone that was even a little let down by the prequels should listen to that at least once. In fact, here you go everyone...http://tinyurl.com/yekjzll
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don't know why a space showed up in a tinyurl.
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He wouldn't pass up a chance for orgies with a cast of barely legal boys. That wasn't meant as homophobic, just reality, ask anyone gay in LA. It's just a shame when directors with potential for better, deeper work blind themselves with a Hollywood cliched lifestyle. Makes them pretty douchey.
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Let's start from the top shall we?Superman, after telling the president of the United States that he'll "Never leave again",.....IMMEDIATELY leaves. Why? Because his father Jor-El....might have been LYING when he said Kal-El was the last surviving member of Krypton. Best to be safe and spend 5 years roaming the galaxy without oxygen making sure.As soon as he gets back it is clear this is EMOMAN! He WHINES the entire film.He leaves and returns on the SAME DAY Superman does, yet nobody thinks this is odd.Everyone raves about the plane sequence. Can we talk? In the previous films, Superman knew how to save a plane. You lift it from beneath. Apparently 5 years without oxygen has turned him into a flying retard because he cranks up on the tippy-tip of the wing, then gets all surprised when it breaks off! What a fuckin' MORON!I also love how Lois gets thrown around the cabin of the plane like a fuckin' pinball, yet doesn't suffer a single scratch.Cue direct line reading from Superman: The Movie. Repeat ad nauseum.Let's talk about the slook of Superman for a moment. First of all, Superman's hair is supposed to be SLICKED back, not feathered like an underwear model. Dick Donner also changed the side of the part to help differenciate between Clark and Superman. Singer doesn't bother.Superman's colors are Blue and RED pig-fucker! Not blue and MAROON! Nice HOT PANTS you fuckin' FAG! And high-heeled go-go boots, eh? Interesting choice. How about those leather drapes you call a cape that goes right up to your fuckin' neck so you can hide the fact that you are wearing FUCKING PADDING because you're a skinny little TWAT from a fucking GAP ad?But let's get back to the POS story shall we? So Supes has taken up being a peeping tom now. Hmmmm. And Lex Luthor has decided to build a fucking iceberg because everyone wants a fucking igloo after all. I mean, just imagine the wonderfull playground you could place on SUPER HARD SHARDS OF GLASS! One also must wonder exactly who will be buying this property since he just tried to KILL ALL THE PEOPLE WHO'S LAND HE DISPLACED!This begs the question, once, you know, the whole planet's military attacks this little iceberg, what is Lex's plan of retaliation? Hurling fucking snowballs at destroyers and F-22s? This putz didn't even remember to fill the tank on his helicopter!Let's talk about Superbastard. Actually....let's not. I'll just say that making Supes a deadbeat dad was not the best plan in the world. Making Lois a WHORE who couldn't wait to get some fresh cock so fast after Superman impregnated her that Cyclops didn't realize the kid wasn't his probably wasn't a good idea either.What a FUCKING MESS! CHRIST how can people think this film is ANYWHERE NEAR the quality of the first two?
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Yes please!
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For Superman Returns? It looked like it was gonna be the movie of the year, and up until that point no one had any reason to doubt Singer on a superhero film.
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weak 3rd acts.
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He is the best director for the franchise. I don't see Bryan starving either since Valkyre did make money and he was praised in that flick. Fox was retarded for not waiting for him in the first place. Superman Returns was not a great flick, but it could have worse, Batman and Robin worse.
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No way in fucking hell an actor with a role like that agrees to kill off a character like that due to "scheduling conflicts". Marsden and Cyclops were fucked over by the politics of other actors. Just like Cumming, and yes, Singer.
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You know what I meant there.
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And do some silly Sex and The City rom-com crap for which he is better suited.
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Really?
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Will we be seeing some "super" stalking and some bastard kids in this?
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...Singer can continue to piss all over the history of my favorite comic ever
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A resounding one. Singer hasn't made one film I have found entertaining save for VALKYRIE, and that was only because Christian Berkel was speaking Englisch in it!
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Just bring everyone killed back and it's gold and as wacky as the comics.
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Dec 17, 2009 9:56:41 AM CST
The movies were all pretty "meh", come on, you know it.
by takeiteasymon
When a poorly animated kid's cartoon from 15 years ago is better than all three big-budget movies, you've got a problem.
So tired of studio culture needing to 'fix' things that obviously haven't been broken for 40 years. Take any of the classic and time-tested fucking comic book stories, film the damn thing, don't really need to change a thing. Sigh. -
And I'm not convinced Bryan Singer is the right guy for this role. His action sequences fall quite flat, and casting Halle Berry as Storm was one of the worst decisions of his career. I enjoyed the third film the most because it just felt more alive, as opposed to being all about Wolverine. I've lost a lot of respect for Singer over the past few years. He made some small brilliant films, but I've yet to be impressed with his repertoire of late.
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Dec 17, 2009 10:08:56 AM CST
Will Wolverine and Cyclops finaly come out of the closet?
by tradeskilz
i think so
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Everyone’s Sick to Death of him! More Cyclops and maybe Havoc and Polaris. Jesus Christ Wolverine was Shite, on every conceivable level, fuck! It makes X3 look like citizen kane , in fact it makes Batman and Robin look like citizen kane.
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on the same sentence again. NEVER. Batman & Robin is the second most vile piece of crap ever filmed, although miles behind Planet Wars aka Brazillian Star Wars (the most dadaistic and painful anti-film ever produced).
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Deal with it.
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Dec 17, 2009 10:18:03 AM CST
Josh Schwartz, the co-creator of Chuck and the creator of The O.
by madoo14
wrote the script to X-Men: First Class
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Only during the era of Sarah Palin and Dancing With the Stars and 'Kill the Bill' would we take one of our most canny and clever Superhero directors and turn on him. "YES. Throw out the people who outclass us! Throw out the talent!! Ptew!!! Probably gay or something!!!"
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And Superman Returns for that matter. Not that great a superhero movie, but compared to Wolverine, it was Citizen Cane. Superman Returns was about as good as X3. But I'll give Singer the benefit of the doubt with X-Men: First Class. The biggest flaw in the first 2 X movies (from my fanboy perspective) was that Singer often didn't let the mutants make a significant show of their powers--the one thing Brett Ratner definitely did better than Singer (except for Dark Phoenix, who was relatively underpowered, but, well, that's another story). At least under Ratner Ice Man actually iced up, Pyro and Magneto really showed their stuff, The Beast got to be beastly, etc. Still not enough of Colossus going metal, but ya take what you can get.Superman Returns, however, showed Supes convincingly using a full range of his powers--about the only thing Singer got right in that largely abysmal movie (he lost me at: "Truth, Justice, and . . . all that stuff", and having a 14 year old play Lois Lane). Still, if he takes his story and previous casting sensibilities on exhibit in X1 and X2 and his newfound willingness to go whole hog on the superpowers, so the movie experience is less like watching Heroes and more like reading a comic book, Freshman Class could be a great X-Men movie. Although I'd miss Kitty Pryde. Only X3 had enough Kitty Pryde, and, even then, it wasn't enough.
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why not just do something cool like The New Mutants?
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She was only a bad idea because in every subsequent film she wouldn't commit until she got this and that, so a lot of her lines are often lines that another character spoke, until she finally signed back on--this is especially noticeable in X3.
That being said, what Halle Berry needed was a voice coach. Sometimes she had a vague "African" accent, then she did not. A vocal trainer would have helped her have a consistent and credible voice.Man, did Wolverine suck, or what? I kind of enjoyed X3, but remain amazed at how bad Wolverine was. Sheesh. -
But let's all agree never to do Power Pack.
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You see, Helvetica, Fox makes X-Men films and Disney makes Avengers films (presumably). Not much chance of a crossover there.
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How much more horseshit are we going to get from FOX?
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Singer should not be doing superhero movies. He has not clue what this genre is about. None. The whole franchise is mundane, including that shit Wolverine spin-off. Reboot this shit with Alex Proyas FFS.
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If they stay out of the way, Im openminded with Singer involved. If Fox starts giving Singer all these guidelines to work with - itll be fucked.
However I dont think that wil be the case. Most likely Singer agreed to do it becuase hes been given the creative freedom to see this through as he wants to. Singer involved = me a bit more hopefully on a franchise Id given up on. They fucked up Xmen. This is how they shoudl have started the franchise to begin with. From the beginning. -
Ororo is supposed to be a tall, authoritative, wise Nubian. Think Iman.
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waka waka
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Until the rights to X-Men get reverted back to Marvel I'll keep myself away from X-Men films.
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Christine Adams.
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...if you think all you need to accurately portray Storm is a vigina and brown skin. Those are the only thing Halle has in common with Storm. Gone was the proud and regal matriarch of the X-men, replace with Halle's mousy, naive waste of space.
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Dec 17, 2009 11:09:32 AM CST
Okay, casting geniuses. Who would make a better Storm?
by dreadlock holmes
I'm interested to hear the responses. Wayne Danzig for Wolverine!
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Yep, that's a perfect fit.
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...hell, even Aisha Tyler would make better Storms.
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But the First Lady is still tops on my list.
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Don't believe she was drawn that way until after Byrne left.
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The Rise of the X-Men: You've seen the beginning. Now see it all again. For no reason, really.
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yeah bitch.... thats right!! And ill add that i find X2 of the same piece of shit calibre as Superman returns. seriously, watch that film and marvel (no pun intended) at how fucking ridiculous it is. Ratner made an awesome Xmen film and I'm sorry the poor bastard had to give up superman because bryan singer wanted it. but honestly, i think he had the last laugh and you people who hate it make me SICK
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Dec 17, 2009 11:25:25 AM CST
Chritine Adams starred on one of the best shows this decade.
by shermdawg
Google search.
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That's how bad it was. I'm glad you enjoyed it ... but fuuuuck.
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Not Google search.
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I'm waiting for the Cop Rock reboot!
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I just don't know.
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She's a cutie but Angela Bassett is still too old. You might as well cast Iman (who is the closest thing to a real life Storm we're ever gonna get)
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Nuff said.
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Bad. Ass.
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Singer directing another x-men movie is a very good thing.
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Y'know it had to be awkward for the guys fantasizing about their teacher (Jean) during class, her being an telepath and all.
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So Iceman & Angel are gonna be in diapers in this film, then? Jeez...
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yeah and in X2 you can see the hope in cyclops eyes of an oscar clip as he crys and spits into captain picards face. wow, what a great sentence.
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Seriously, why such weak names. Regardless, they wouldn't have to go back and do origin films if they hadn't flippantly killed off main characters like it didn't matter or nobody would care. Meh on these films anyway.
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If there was ever a moment he should be acting like that, it was that moment. The problem is though, they didn't portray him in caring about anything but Jean up til then. He was never given an oppurtunity to be the strong leader the character was known for.
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Cyclops' offscreen demise. He was a drag, a real wet blanket as character. I could've cared less. I enjoyed "Superman Returns". It actually had-gasp-human emotions. Kevin Spacey is great Lex Luthor. Was it a perfect film? Not by a long shot. But when Eva Marie Saint can't get into the hospital to see her son. the only son Jor-El, went a big ribbery one. "Valkyrie" was easily Singer's best film, but why see it when you use homophobic epithets? But I must say, Revenge of Fett, for a homophobe, you sure are obsessing quite a bit over a character's wardrobe.
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...since she wasn't weighed down with as much melodrama as Scott.
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that sockcucker!
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I thought it was over when Halle Berry demanded more and more money over the guy playing Nightcrawler after X2 which resulted in Nightcrawler not being in X3.
We all need to realize, Spider-Man, Daredevil (unless they put him under Marvel Knight's Studios like they did Punisher)X-Men and Fantastic Four, they will never, ever, ever, EVER, have good movies because they are not owned by Marvel anymore and the studios will change everything to get money. We just need to fucking accept these few will not have good movies by now. -
Halle was reportedly a bitch to both him and Singer throughout the films.
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Too bad Angel and Iceman were already established as not being part of the original X-men team. Maybe Xavier could still have use of his legs and be a full-on team member with the story being about their first adventure and how Xavier becomes crippled. And fill out the team with Scott's brother, Havoc (kill him off in the sequel) or Banshee. Also, Beast provides the comic relief, and isn't covered in blue fur yet.
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I'm just confused.
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...getting cut in Wolverine.
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Stop riding the dick of X2 as if it were The Dark Knight, it was an average action flick that so happened to have wolverine in it.
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...at least compare it to a good film.
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Singer fucking failed twice already at giving us a real X-Men movie. X1 and X2 are like watching cinematic paint dry. Lifeless, visionless "action" and completely unlikable characters.
Tell me ONE good moment w/ Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Rogue...ANYONE in the film. Tell me one memorable thing anyone did... I'll wait.
Singer fucked up X-Men, KILLED Superman and now that his latest Nazi love letter tanked at the B.O. he's back for more. Fuck Singer till he's goddamn DEAD! -
Let's see. X1: Kid Magneto, "Get out of my head, Charles", Wolverine's cage fight, Wolverine's hair (in the first twenty minutes), The bar fight, the truck scene, and the nightmare. X2? Pretty much the entire flick minus Deathstrike which should've been Sabretooth. Especially the opening and Magneto escaping prison bits. Awesome stuff.
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As a director, I think Brian Singer is a solid dude. He has a great eye and produces some great stuff. Usual Suspects, Apt Pupil, X2, Valkyrie. All decent movies. Even Superman was really well made with a lot of heart (but so slooow).
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..and I'm not a huge fan of the X-titles comic books. In fact, for many years I was a MAJOR hater. But with that in mind, I still enjoyed a majority of X1 and X2. Neither were perfect, to be sure. But they were both quite enjoyable and had many memorable scenes. I was rather fond of the Wolverine/Rogue storyline myself. Again, I'm not saying they're "perfect mind-blowing classics", but they're more than watchable, and re-watchable. X3, on the other hand, feels and looks like a b-movie by comparison. And killing Xavier in that fashion was just LAAAAAAAME! Even Patrick Stewart thought so.
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Storm bbqing Toad. Wolverine vs Sabertooth. Young Magneto in Auschwitz. Wolverine vs Mystique. Magneto escaping prison. Wolverine vs Lady Deathstrike. Jean saving te whole team. Nightcrawler in the White House...do you really want me to go on?
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It just misses for me. It's one of those where I can't agree with any kind of extreme love, OR extreme hate. It looks good (sets, effects, etc.), the story is good, the acting is good - but nothing is really GREAT. And it is too long and slow.
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because you just described about 7 minutes of good material.
The truck scene? you mean our first (but certainly not last) glimpse of Sad Face "Hurts every time" Logan? Fuck that shit. Wolverine is an animal, plain and simple. The pussification of Wolverine has been a travesty.
Storm BBQing toad... Soooo you really got off on Storm's lightning joke? Also love the absolute shit FX job on him flying into the river.
Wolvie Vs. Mystique... because we've all seen Mystique scurry up walls upside down and backwards before right? Because the best way to kill Wolverine is to hit him in the stomach w/ a rubber chain link fence. That fight was a joke, like the entire finale. TV movie quality horseshit.
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Geeez. You can't argue against our personal opinion, the same as we can't argue against ours. You asked, we supplied. Now go take a happy pill or something.
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very important to Hugh Jackman. it gave him clout. It helped him set up his own production company, do a one off stint at the oscars. it also gave him clout on broadway. re superman. The movie is unwatchable for one reason only. Kate Bosworth. I didn´t hate the movie as some of you did. but bosworth stank p the film.
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And anything we say won't sway you so i'm done with this. Have a good day.
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Damn, I want that again.
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Like, seriously? Are people that badly in need of attention? Well if so, here you go! Take that shit where it belongs! There are plenty of Avatar posts on this site. No need to clog up other posts with inane comments about that film. Nothing personal, though. : )
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FUCK YOU HATERS. HOPEFULLY SUPERMAN 2 IS NEXT.
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Damn it Summers take off the shades!!!!
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Dec 17, 2009 3:19:40 PM CST
a franchise is dead the second it heads into prequel territory
by alienindisguise
and singer can't direct for shit. all of his movies are boring as all hell.
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THAT'S JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED!!!!!!!!
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We've already seen Fox screw with the X-Men chronology. Iceman as a youngster while Storm seemingly has been around and Angel is also new. So, do we see a Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm origin story? Or do we Trash the first 3 movies and start over?
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Singer sucks and Ratner sucks. The X movies sucked mucho ass. All those movies were centered on Wolverine-one fucking character instead of the whole team which was supposed to be the point. With so many great stories that the X-Men comics have they couldn’t follow just one?!?! Having “major” actors in the lead roles didn’t help either if they weren’t right for the part, which the most of them were. And changing major points from the comics just to suit egos just pissed off a tons of the comic fans. Seriously, SUPERMAN RETURNS was and is that bad! Making one of the greatest superheroes of all time into a stalker, deadbeat dad is NOT a good thing! Singer did NOTHING special with the superhero genre OTHER than to make it popular again.
If there is any one that should get credit with “revitalizing” the comic book genre it should be Chris Nolan. He took Batman that went from cheesy TV and cartoons and made it into something that can stand with any serious drama or action movies. Something that superhero movies have never able to do. Now every fucking studio wants a dark and real superhero. But Movies like SPIDER-MAN and IRON MAN proved that you CAN stick to the source material but still make some changes—IF you know the source material and respect the fans. I say fuck Singer and Ratner they are hacks, and hire some one that really knows the source material and really can do direct. -
Here's what she said, note how many times she contradicts herself in this stupefying statement: "“We want it to be like the recent, darker Potters. It should not be a kiddie movie: we’re in the X-Men world so you can’t suddenly change the tone. The First Class comics are really fun — they’re funnier than any other comics I’ve read. Basically in each one the kids are fighting strange villains, sometimes it’s aliens, sometimes it’s monsters. I want to get a flavour of that world.” Okay so you want to copy other films, you want it to be "dark" like Harry Potter... But then the comics are "fun" and also "funnier" than others you've ever read. "Dark" and "fun" and funny aren't words that usually go together unless you're doing a black comedy like The Cable Guy. And then you want them fighting monsters and aliens, a flavor of "that world", which is apparently funny as well, but at the same time, it DOESN'T change the tone of the original X-Men movies? BC the first 3 were so goddamn funny? What the fuck is this chick on? Its been a bad few months for the Hollywood suits when it comes time to describe their new films. Over and over I see them trip and fall over their own words as they try to make a project sound exciting, but they contradict themselves with their ridiculous Hollywood doublespeak and false talk. Idiot.
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They are legally required to push out an X-property every so often or else lose the rights to the characters--so expect to see these like clockwork every 2-3 years.
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Just sayin'
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Bulllllllllllshit.
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Arnold the perfect Colossus.
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What a fucking WASTE.
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Uhhh, the plane chase sequence in X2, where we get to see mutant powers (Storm, Nightcrawler) used in awesome ways other than just to "fight the bad guys."
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Zing!
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Oh you got me on that one, Xi!
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fuck hollywood is stupid. I want a futuristic Cable/Bishop/Longshot/Shatterstar plot but as I sit here thinking it could be real sweet if it was a true 70's period piece.
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If not don't expect me too, i'll wait for it to come on tv.
Why do i say this, because all these comic book films are crying for this extra step that the R rating has to offer. Batmad was much darker i hear you all cry.. it was still pretty light in my opinion.
I hate to see wolverine fighting in a fucking pristine white tank top only to end a fight not dreched in blood.
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Singers X-men fucking suck and guzzle the chowder.
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Dec 17, 2009 5:43:18 PM CST
Bullshit, IndustryKiller, you ever READ an X-Men comic in your l
by tall_boy66
If you actually read the fucking books you know that they get killed and depowered on a semi-regular basis. Christ, how many times did fucking Cyclops die and then return, not to mention Phoenix? Or how many times Chucky was left for dead and/or depowered only to come back, like at the END of the movie. Hell, Mags pushing the chess piece is stolen pretty much from the end of "House of M". It's called a comic book storyline. You have to READ them before you actually pretend to be an AUTHORITY about them, okay? You. Poser. You. Fake. You. Fucking tourist.
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X-Men needs to be Re-BOOTED big time. It will not happen though. Too many STUPID FUCKING PEOPLE ACCEPTED MEDIOCRITY.
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Mutant cure storyline? Taken directly from Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men run. But, you know, you've never read a comic book in your life so you wouldn't know that. Fake.
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Squatter punks take drugs become superheroes
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Dec 17, 2009 5:54:49 PM CST
IF YOU LIKE SINGERS XMEN, THAN YOU DONT READ COMICS
by the green gargantua
I wonder if Singer knows about the Authority?
Any of you young dudes blowing him? Slip him some graphic novels next time you crawl out from under his desk.
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Seriously.
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or at least nipples.
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with an "X"!
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Dec 17, 2009 7:07:28 PM CST
Am I the only person who just wants an straight up X4?
by murdermostfowl
I really thought X3 wasn't all that bad. I thought some of it was inspired. Everyone who wants a "better" wolverine needs to shut up. You got your ridiculous violence wolverine in his own movie and ... gues what, it sucked. Singer and the casting of ( then virtually unknown ) Hugh Jackman was absolutely the only reason there even was an X2, or X3. ( well, this and Ian McKellen )
Personally I'm guessing the reason we're going to have a reboot is so they don't have to renegotiate contracts with all the stars. I would have preferred they jus pick up where we left off in X3 cast wise... the young actors have aged quite a bit from then. It would make for some good tension young vs old. Some cry babies would scream for continuity, but the Marvel comic universe(s) are so rife with continuity ridiculousness, does it really matter? It's the story that counts
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HE CANNOT DO ACTION AND IS UNCOMFORTABLE DOING SUPERHEROES
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If Iron Man and Batman and Thor and STAR TREK can get away with it, SO CAN THE X-MEN. Bright flashy costumes, bitches! Big crazy ideas and FX and fights and madness! WHY IS THE UNCANNY FUCKIN' X-MEN THE MOST BLAND AND COLORLESS CINEMATIC SUPERHERO PROPERTY? EVEN SPIDER-MAN AND IRON MAN AND BATMAN, ALL MORE DOWN TO EARTH CHARACTERS, ARE MORE DYNAMIC ONSCREEN!
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All he cared about was emulating Donner's FILM, not any COMIC.
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LISTEN TO THIS GUY. Fuck Magneto, its been done to death. WE NEED SINISTER AND APOCALYPSE, or don't fucking bother. An origin school story written by some wanker that wrote the OC?? NO FUCKING THANKS
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It could be, but it's not. IT SHOULD BE...but it's not. Why on earth would they reboot when they have Wolverine 2 in the pipeline? Also, LSD, Berry, and Stewart all said they'd like to do another proper installment....and I use "proper" loosely.
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He may finally have become wise to hiring a good DP, but he doesn't know or give a shit about that side of things. Worked for him have you?
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Geeeet outta here with that nonsense. Nearly every movie based on a comic book has shat all over the storylines and ideas in said comic book. It's a rarity that they come close to approaching what went on in the book.
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I just wanted to point out the idiocy of her comments. They're not going to change the tone, but its based on a property that's funny, yet she wants it to be dark like the last couple of Harry Potters. And again, they're not going to change the serious tone of the other films. Moo-ron! PS: Michael Biehn for Cyclops in the 90's version of X-Men!
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The X-Men are the underground renegades of the Marvel Universe, in comics and onscreen - so do that. The X-Men hiding in the subways, fighting the Marauders to the death, the knifefight with Callisto, taking down the upper class in the Hellfire Club; use Dazzler for great FX, have a drag-out punch-up between Colossus and Diamond Emma Frost. If it's a soft reboot then intro Havok to carry the series with a crazy Polaris, along with Angela Bassett Storm and a SPARING use of Wolverine, and others. Maybe hint that Scott is alive somewhere, somehow. Leave Xavier out of it. Do Proteus in one of the films - just a long 2-hour action sequence all about them taking down the unstoppable "Mutant X" who keeps disintegrating fuckers. It would be badass.
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Fox has proven that they haven't got the slightest clue how to make good movies with these characters. Singer doesn't have the skill to match the bar set by Iron Man and the Dark Knight.
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You look at the Iron Man 2 TRAILER alone and it is better on action and script and style than anything in all three X-Men films. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
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Get past the initial suspense and Heath, and it's pretty weak. Also, Iron Man took a turn for the worst in it's third act with it's rushed villain.
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The opening attack at the White House in X2.
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Oldman was the bee's knees.
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Dec 17, 2009 7:52:55 PM CST
Repeat the SUPES approach and pretend 3 never happened...
by burnhollywood
...But man, no more fucking prequels, okay?
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Another fricking origin film. No thanks.
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Without an origin film, we would have never learned about the circumstances freshman year that brought Ferris Bueller, Cameron, and Sloan together! And then we'd never have been able to jump right into their "Day Off" story together and understand the complexities of their relationships. The movie simply would not have worked without that origin!
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I heard he had written a script a few years ago and was wondering what he came up with. At least he would've brought the film to an epic scale like superman deserves. I just finished watching the Richard Donner film and am still in aw with what he did with the first two films.
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...before they re-introduce her in X4. Jean might not be resurrectable, Scott and Chuck though...very possible. Though, if they bring those guys back, why not all them soldiers Grey killed? DON'T BE PLAYIN' FAVORITES!
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...the vegatable Chuck inhabited at the end of X3?
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...what JJ's script was about. Trust me. You don't want to know about Krypton never blowing up. You don't want to know about Luthor being an alien from another planet. You don't want to know about the prophecy that Kal-El would leave Krypton to go to another planet and later return to Krypton as its savior. You don't want to know about Superman dying and coming back to life, but only after meeting his dead dad in the afterlife who tells him about said prophecy as proof that he can't die... yet. And you definitely don't want to know about the planned sequel where Superman goes back to Krypton to save a planet where he's no longer super and just ... normal. Nah uh.
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LMAO. You could have a future as a Hollywoodland screenwriter, fo' sure...
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Will end up being a mutant shapeshifter so that the Prof can have his old face back. Only now, he can- DUN DUN DUN- walk.
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while Rothman is still heading the studio -- perhaps Rothman whispered in Singer's ear that "I'm heading out soon." SINGER -- If you're smart, here's what I would do with this film: Design this film as something of a prequel/sequel (hey, he likes that structure, as evidenced by Superdud Regurgitates) -- only tell it BETTER this time -- perhaps featuring Scott Summers waking up alone, in a mysterious place, remembering his past and his orientation with Xavier's school, their first adventure/battle (Sinister, perhaps?), and how he falls early on for Emma Frost (introduced in Wolverine as well) and she then turns bad by the end of the film/goes off with Magneto, whatever. Throughout, present-day Summers searches for clues to his own existence, and what's happened to him since Alkali Lake. He comes to find out SINISTER is behind it all, and actually saved his life thinking he could later USE him. A final confrontation between Sinister/Summers and perhaps a few others -- This would offer Singer a way to include Marsden in the picture while ALSO telling an ORIGINS story -- while ALSO advancing the film universe's present-day narrative, setting it up for new stories in 5/6, while ALSO giving due respect and explanation to Summers' mysterous X3 "death", while ALSO NOT negating anything in X3 (AS MUCH AS I DO WISH THAT ENTIRE FLIM-FLAM PIECE OF CELLULOID HAD NEVER BEEN CONCIEVED). There- I just wrote your movie -- Lauren S. Donner, I expect my check in the mail before production starts.
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A review from yesteryear! http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13350
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Dec 17, 2009 8:15:54 PM CST
PHANTOM MENACE REVIEW!!!WATCH THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!
by tehcreepythinman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
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Especially after my Wolverine at the grocery store joke ("Paper or plastic?" "I prefer... metal,") went over so well earlier this summer.
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Hellboy1 and 2, Sin City, Watchmen, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Batman begins, Dark Knight, Superman 1 & 2. Spider-Man2, 300
Those X-men movies are turds man. Stinky TURDS there is a total of 40min of decent in the total heap of turd movies. A good movie can be made of a comic book without the sack of shit egomaniacal director stamping his bullshit all over a concept that has proven to work for fucking decades. Brian Singer was NEVER a fan of the comics, he does not get it, he cant get it. You just get excited hearing superhero names thrown about on the screen, so much in fact that you cant smell the shit dripping off it. Guess what? You are not alone! Thats why this fucktard will continue to run this franchise into the ground.
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Try again.
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Dec 17, 2009 8:23:22 PM CST
Singer deserves praise for rekindling hollowood interest in supe
by immortal_fish
Singer deserves praise for rekindling hollowood interest in superhero movies.And it ends there. Why? More like, why does it need to be asked?If you think Singer has been faithful to any comic property that he has adapted, then you need to check your skull for labotamy scars. Simple as that.He used X1/2 as a tool to work out his sexuality issues and he used Singerman Returns as a tool to work out his daddy issues. I would have preferred to apply my box office contribution to a psych visit for the poor fellow.Fuck Bryan Singer. Gently and kindly. And please reboot this property under someone else's jurisprudence.
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you just did the CLASSIC X2 fan love.... see, you mentioned stuff that was good about X1, I'll agree and add to it the conflict between cyclops and Wolverine, especially when they had to work side by side at the end.....but when it came to what was good about X2 you did what so many other fans here do - the ones who claim it to be the best thing since chocholate covered tits. (bryan singer just shuddered) you DIDN'T name a damn thing that was good... you just said, 'pretty much the whole film' WRONG, BULLSHIT, there's only 1 good bit - the opening, and it seems to be such a great opening that it's totally destroyed any sane thought for the rest of the film.... you see, the movie is BORING. and the filmmaking style is gimmicky and ridiculous. lets take the scene in the museum. whats the first conversation? the previous film. (strike 1, don't EVER do that) Any film that has to reference the previous film shows that it has no clear sights for itself as a stand alone and superior film. Again in the museum, everyone pausing - now this is a nitpick maybe, but lets say everyone paused and the focus was on the people who weren't paused, that would give an air of strangeness. but it wasn't like that, we had long takes on everyone freezing in place, including dolly shots and tracking shots, cutting and cutting - look at all the paused people. (strike 2! stop wasting my fucking time stupid movie!) another minor nitpic was the choice to go super 35 crapped to widescreen instead of the first films true anamorphic scope. regardless... it was proof that this film was cheapened and that to me suggests contempt for the audianceThe duration of the film until the attack on the school. THAT is where my true memories of how fucking useless and boring this film was are. YOU TELL ME what was so magnificent about any of these scenes? man it was dull, im bored just thinking about it. The Jet, so advanced it doesn't need any sort of mechanics, it's just a big hollow bubble. travelling at how fast? and when it crashes, magneto is on the ground to catch it. erm.... yeah.... uh... you know i can suspend my brain for a limited number of things. global Geographical traversing in minutes, or seconds aint one of em. unless it's kirk bumping into spock in an ice cave on a vulcan moon. i love that shit :) the entire last 45 mins. logan running. there's a wall. logan running. there's another wall. fight scene. escape scene. runing, wall. running wall. Jean Greys death scene, cyclops blubbering in jean lucs face (how any of you can keep a straight face during that scene boggles my mind) and then the whole star trek 2 ending. and ive only seen this film twice! Everything about it pisses me off and for some reason sticks in my head like some dried fecal matter. I just can't shake it. oh, and THAT GOD AWEFUL recycled scene with prof X getting jagged into a super computer and almost being killed by it. geeeeeeesuzoh i did like Magnetos escape scene.... but i saw no reason for that guard to be injected with Iron.... if only he'd just taken the natural iron out of someone - THAT would have been devilishly clever... and fantastic to think he could have done it the whole time X-3... no complaints! AT ALL.... top film making! Repeat viewings. all class. reminds me of what the first Xmen film wanted to be. (but failed at the end)
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To three films, so I thought bringing up an excellent 5 minute sequence that does feature great action and style would fit.
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Boy, has the tide turned on Singer. Returns was SO gay, the only job Routh could get after it was playing the hubby of a gay porn star.
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Bleh. Top example of missed and wasted opportunities, maybe (Angel, Pyro vs Iceman, the Phoenix).
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but how many projects is this guy going to take on?! I will believe this when I see it.
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Iron Man. The Dark Knight. Batman Begins. How well did they translate their comic book properties?
Then X-Men and X2 - people in black spandex fighting people in gray camos, mostly humans, in drab settings with little action.
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You said the 2 minute Iron Man 2 trailer had better action and style than anything in any of the X-Men movies. I merely refuted your claim by bringing up the opening to X2, which you implied doesn't count bc its only a 5 minute sequence. And I don't think you can use "pple in black spandex fighting pple in gray camos, mostly humans" as an example of why the X-Men films pale in comparison to Batman, when he's a guy in black who fights humans in drab outfits, or in the case of BB, more black spandex.
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At this point, I ask "why?" Singer needs to work on advancing what he began in X2 and help us forget the regrettable "Last Stand", not do origin stories/ prequels, neither of which the kids have much tolerance for nowadays. Sorry if I'm oversimplifying, but if he can't give us an X-movie in the here-and-now, by God, I'm certain there's someone else who can.
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First of all, I started buying comic books in 1980 and I own over 10,000 of them in physical form. Plus about twice that many in digital form. Now that we're clear on that... You know what, I just typed about 1000 words and then deleted them, because it just doesn't matter. Your assertion and/or assumption that "if you like Singers X-men then you don't read comics" is complete and total bullshit and I'm calling you on it. Deal with it.
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You like to eat fast food too? Fuck fat chix much? Enjoy Bud over micro brew?
So you have bunch of comics but you do not read them or understand what makes them great, I totally get it.
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And that's a bad thing?
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Dec 17, 2009 8:53:51 PM CST
Reflecto: You right, Fuck Singer, he would ruin Authority
by the green gargantua
Just thought it would be nice for him to work with characters that were already gay, rather than make existing non gay characters gay.
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I know my mutants. And, flawed as they are, Singer's X-Men touched upon some moments of actual beauty and coolness recalling the Claremont era.
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How old are you? Really. Please tell us. Because anything you have to say after throwing insults and curses at me doesn't matter in the slightest. Your assumption that I don't understand what makes a comic great is as pretentious and ridiculous as saying somebody who likes a movie "doesn't read comic books". It was a ridiculous comment. Man up and get over it.
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even tho he has 10,000 comics boarded and bagged!
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He's a know it all a$$hole who thinks he's Lord Of Film. I agree with you about the action in the IM trailer kicking the shit out of X-Men's weak sequences, I also agree that THE DAYS OF FUTURE PAST storyline would be awesome.
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I'm totally into it!!
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I don't use boards, they annoy me as they make it more difficult to get the comics out of the bag TO READ THEM. Doesn't change the fact that your overreaching blanket comment was laaaaaaaaaame.
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My God, that would be awesome.
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X2 captured the characters enough to where it appeared the series was moving in the right direction....despite a few that would never live up to their funny book counter parts. X-men was never about wall to wall action. It was about relationships. Dialogue. Actual characters. That was X2. It was about setting up something fucking huge. Something we were robbed of. Something X3 didn't deliver on, and when they attempted character moments, it was so encased in the stench of the bullshit they pulled on the fans it's kinda hard to notice....or care. I don't totally hate X3 though. I quite like some of the score, and I actually think Ratner...outside of some awful wire-fu that carried over from the previous films did a more than decent job as a last minute hired gun. I love certain moments like Scott at the lake (not the story outcome though), the Empire-like fog scene with Logan and Storm, and that wicked cool Matrixy shot of Jean before she offed Chuck. It looked great. Not crazy about some of the design or casting choices, cretainly not crazy about killing off Scott, and I think if he had remained alive the film wouldn't get half the shit it gets, however, Brett fails as a actor's director. As a story teller. Even though he didn't write that shit. Even though I don't blame it's failure on him, he had the power to say "hey, this doesn't work. We should cut this." and didn't. Too many contradictory or just plain stupid back pedal outcomes/endings in this flick. A little editing, and keeping Scott around would've saved this. It may not of compare to what Singer was gonna do, or what we wanted, but it would have kept Scott where he belonged. But even with those changes, it wouldn't match X2's quality. It was damn-near Spielbergian. Lucas-free Spielberg.
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About being completely wrong last night and for looking like a total asshat?
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Dec 17, 2009 9:15:15 PM CST
My statement rings true. These movies could be great
by the green gargantua
They suck, and you bend over and take it.
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But what could be landmark films get marred by bullshit dialogue and a landslide of irrelevant characters put there apparently for the sole purpose of showing "cool" special effects.
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And let them go wild with a Proteus or Hellfire Club or Mutant Massacre story. Simple. Done.
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Bottom line: Producers want to get asses in seats. This results in the inclusion of a lot of corny, gimmicky, boneheaded elements. The quality could be vastly improved by treating the subject matter as straightforward sci-fi about not simply a team, not just a family, but a CULTURE.
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and Fox is totally jealous of Paramount's fresh Trek into filthy lucre.
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He does it in Japan all the time with various boys' manga and video game properties.
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The Hellfire Club affair or MM would provide audiences with the action they crave, while also giving us some opportunity for some poignant socio-political commentary.
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Singer scrapped the current script, and will deliver a script based on his OWN scenario!!
(which is the only way I would see him doing this movie)
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118012931.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=vertfilm
Posted: Thurs., Dec. 17, 2009, 5:15pm PT
Bryan Singer to direct 'X-Men: First Class'
Director returns to mutant franchise for Fox
By Michael Fleming
Twentieth Century Fox has set Bryan Singer to direct "X-Men: First Class," returning him to the franchise that began with the first two installments of the mutant series. Lauren Shuler Donner and Simon Kinberg are producers.
Singer had been flirting with the project since last summer (Daily Variety, Aug. 13). Deal was made after the studio sparked to a detailed treatment he wrote for the film. Jamie Moss was hired to write the script, and the studio will move aggressively.
Singer told Daily Variety that he thought long and hard about returning to the franchise he launched until he found a storyline that would stand on its own.
"This is the formative years of Xavier and Magneto, and the formation of the school and where there relationship took a wrong turn," Singer said. "There is a romantic element, and some of the mutants from 'X-Men' will figure into the plot, though I don't want to say which ones. There will be a lot of new mutants and a great villain."
In the film, Xavier and Magneto will be twentysomething, and the film sounds similar in construct to the J.J. Abrams-directed "Star Trek."
"Whether it's 'Batman,' 'Lord of the Rings' or 'Star Trek,' if the characters are good, you want to see them on their journey even if you know their destiny," Singer said. "I put myself in the fan's position, and I think this story is something I would want to see, and so will they."
Fox has launched the "Origins" project by hiring Josh Schwartz to write the script. Singer went back to the drawing board but feels so in synch with the concept and the writer that he feels the project can come together quickly. The studio is separately developing an origin film on Magneto, another about Deadpool and a sequel to last summer's hit "Wolverine," which Singer said he liked.
Singer hasn't fixed on his next movie, but he is in a holding deal with New Line for "Jack the Giant Killer," which is still working out its conceptual visual development of the giants.
Singer is also attached to direct "Battlestar Galactica" and, after a rights issue was cleared up, he's beginning to develop a remake of "Excalibur."
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This is going straight to fucking hell.
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...well, I don't know what. lol I won't be excited about it, though. I actually agree about Zoe. Although she's kind of becoming the go to genre girl and may not want to be typecast as such. I would like to see her in the roll more than Halle Berry, though.
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I think i just got my very first clear and concise response to my opposing issuse to this site X fans. that said, I think comparing X2 to spielbergian is a bit rotten, but thats ok, there are two types of spielbergian and im only a fan of one. as for killing off scot... i gotta say, i hated that fucker in X2 and i was just about done with him totally in X3 ... but when he got killed oh man did that film win me over. not to mention magneto actually going out being a bad-ass, seeing mystique get screwed over and lose her powers - kudos to the Rat for not having her turn into herself from X-2 but into a new character more in line with her personality. And the visula effects, man I LOVED the visual effects in X-3... regardless of the comics or what singer was 'building too' (i don't believe the guy had a plan at all to be honest) X-3 for me was a nice tight solid film and i truely enjoy and respect it!
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We see Charles and Eric's early formative relationship? Yeah... I figured all that would be in the Magneto Origins flick, where we also see Mags put Charles in a wheelchair. I guess podosphere is probably right- that Magneto flick is getting shelved as it would probably just be a retread of stuff they'd cover in this flick.
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... Cause the article mentions the Magneto flick is still in development. Very weird. Especially considering we already saw his WWII origin and will soon see his 20-something years in this New Class flick. What else is there???
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Dec 17, 2009 10:43:34 PM CST
The Magneto flick will cover the years he worked in a Slinky pla
by shermdawg
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But not bc we had a nude Rebecca Romijn for a brief second? BTW, that wasn't "herself" in X2, it was her as a hot blonde to attract that joe schmo prison guard. I don't think showing her as a brunette was a bold choice by the Rat. I think it was just rather obvious when someone's name is Raven Darkholme. Anyway, my initial point was that I hated what happened to Mystique. I don't mean the losing her powers bit- I actually rather enjoyed that-, I mean the fallout. I thought it was great that she sacrificed herself to save her leader and possible lover from being depowered, but I absolutely loathed, despised, and HATED that Magneto's reaction was "Oh well, she's a human now. Better leave her behind," which was COMPLETELY antithetical to how his character had been set up in the previous films. Sure Mags is evil in some ways, but he's not an asshole. It was a stupid character moment just so we could have a plot point later where Mystique gives the US government the location of Magneto's camp. Just dumb, dumb, dumb move, I thought. Not how Magneto would have reacted at all.
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You pompous, self-important douche, O Lord of Film. Please enlighten us all with your know-it-all correctness, you contrarian- just-to-hear-yourself-verbally-masturbate-prick, lol.
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Since you think its unfathomable that "You complete me" could be a reference to Jerry Maguire. Or perhaps you just never knew it was a line from that movie to begin with.
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I pardon you.
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What'd you do?
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Xavier: Rufus Sewell
Cyclops: Sean Farris
Marvel Girl: Emmy Rossum
Beast: Emile Hirsch
Iceman: Ben McKenzie
Angel: Garret Hedlund
Magneto: Paul Bettany
Mastermind: James Callis
Quicksilver: Tom Welling
Scarlett Witch: Samaire Armstrong
Toad: Johnny Lewis
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Dec 18, 2009 11:21:32 AM CST
LOL@DVader I guess I'm not the only who thinks....
by zombieheathledger
you are an over-opinionated douchebag. CLASSIC!!
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In it, several leather clad metrosexuals manhandle each other and pretend they're not gay.
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He just ain't.
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This is bullshit. They're just trying to do Star Trek again. Everybody's going to try to repeat that shit, but nobody will be able to, because there's only one J. J. Abrams and there's only one Star Trek.
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Dec 18, 2009 5:43:57 PM CST
Don't even talk about Authority in the Singer talkback
by liesandpicturesofalsolies
Don't give him any ideas.
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OOOOOOOOOOO >COUGHCOUGH< OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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his lack of follow-through has fucked up TWO franchises. jumping between x-men and superman doomed them both to eventual suckitude.
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cant be worse than x-3-the shittening
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