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Ack!! Here's A Semi-Substantiated Casting Rumor For Bilbo In THE HOBBIT!!
Merrick here...
The Latino Review folks have word on someone who is at least in discussion to play Bilbo in Guillermo's HOBBIT movies.
It's Tobey Maguire!?!?!?!?!?
I checked with agency sources and yep, it’s true!
Apparently, we’re in the early stages of talks between CAA and the producers of the Hobbit film for Tobey to topline the film as Bilbo Baggins!
Again, right now it’s that – just dialogue taking place between the respective parties.
Tobey hasn’t been cast and an offer hasn’t been made. It’s just talks.
...says LR's El Mayimbe HERE.
I sure hope this doesn't pan out. Topher Grace wiped the floor with Tobey in SPIDER-MAN 3 and clearly, painfully proved that Maguire is becoming too damn sleepy to anchor big pieces of this nature. Sure would hate to see his blandeness spread across so many hours of THE HOBBIT.
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Apparently, we’re in the early stages of talks between CAA and the producers of the Hobbit film for Tobey to topline the film as Bilbo Baggins!
Again, right now it’s that – just dialogue taking place between the respective parties.
Tobey hasn’t been cast and an offer hasn’t been made. It’s just talks.
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Hmmmmmm?????
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I still like James Mcavoy for Biblo.
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Guys, the book says hobbits love WINE. W-I-N-E. Got it?
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Man, you guys are getting slow at reporting the latest movie news...
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Just shit.
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never read the Rings trilogy, either, in fact. but I enjoyed the movies quite a bit. as someone with no ties to the source material, I have no problem with Tobey. granted, he's reached hallowed ground in my circle of friends as having the single most laugh-inducing face in the industry(taking the reigns from long, long reigning champion: Michael Keaton). but even with his big stupid face, he gives solid performances. his work in "Brothers" was the best among that cast, and there were some solid actors at work there.
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No Tobey!
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It would be like Mad Max without Mel
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http://www.newslose.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/tobey_maguire.jpg remove spaces if warranted and i rest my case. biggest dumbest face in hollywood.
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he's the right height to play a Hobbit...
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Sorry but Middle Earth isn't fucking PLeasantville! Jesus Christ of all the bleary-eyed glue-sniffing bullshit!
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I think Tobey would work...as would many, many other actors. But NOT Ian Holm...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC73PHdQX04
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Didn't Toby Maguire play Elija Wood's brother in The Ice Storm?
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The Hobbit needs somebody totally bad ass. Especially since it was written for the 25-40 year old set.
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David Mitchell, from the UK sitcom "Peep Show", would be the perfect Bilbo Baggins. Check out the first series on Hulu. http://tinyurl.com/yeqxppn
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WAAAAAAAAH!!! SPIDER-MAN 3 is one of the worst movies ever, so now Tobey Maguire sucks! WAAAAAAAH!!! Maguire is an awesome actor, it's Raimi's fault SPIDEY 3 sucked donkey balls. How soon we forget Parts 1 & 2, THE ICE STORM, PLEASANTVILLE, WONDER BOYS, PLEASANTVILLE, etc. Suck it, haters. Maguire would make a perfectly fine Bilbo. Besides, he can already act cartwheels around Elijah Wood...
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And doesn't look anything like Ian Holm. Nice move! Gunter Monkey, in what way did Ian Holm suck, exactly? On the plus side, Brian Cox would make a terrific Thorin!
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Far over the misty mountains cold,
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The whole point of Bilbo's character arc is how spectacularly un-badass he is. I hope you're joking, it's hard to tell on this site.
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Despite what anyone thinks about Spider-Man 3 what about Spiderman 1 and 2. Was Tobey not good enough in those? How about in his short, but awesome performance in Fear and Loathing? Surely, fucking Peter Parker AKA SPIDER-MAN is cooler than That Guy from That 70's Show! Not sure if Tobey is Bilbo, but still better than Topher Grace in my book.
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No way! Fuck Tobey Maguire! UUGH!
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James McAvoy and YES, he is Bilbo Baggins.
But then, there's this other guy that really looks like a young Ian Holm. I can't remember his name, but he's among the candidates already. -
TM is speaking with producers but not for the role of bilbo, Del toro is interested in casting him as the character Beorn.Trust me i'm deep within this production i know whats going on
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And they're usually in the know...
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And both had the same word in the title. How weird! BTW, you're wrong Jett, my father's Toby McGuire and he's playing the Lady in the Lake in a "Holy Grail/LOTR" cross-over scene...well, the second after the thing with Gothmog flopping around on the ground in ROTK EE...
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he's had the part for weeks, producers are waiting untill all roles are cvast before making a press announcment. Ian Holm will still appear in the films through book ends, but it won't be major scenes his filing so far is only scheduled for 10 days
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...because that would instantly be the end of any excitement I had for the project.
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I've had no love for his work since Pleasantville. My vote goes for James McAvoy
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right out of the movie. Yep, there is Tobey Maguire talking to Gandalf. Now, Tobey Maguire is in Rivendell. Now Tobey Maguire is talking riddles with Gollum. Cast someone relatively unknown.
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And digitally de-age him about 10 years?
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Watch the video at this link http://tinyurl.com/apq8lq and tell me he doesn't have Bilbo potential.
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What do you mean he can't because he's black?YOU FUCKING RACISTS.
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I respectfully disagree that it's acting!
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We need the Timberlake so we can start bringing sexy back to the Lord Of The Rings franchise!Hey...wait a minute.Bringing Sexy Back....That would be an awesome TB name, no?
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Fuckin-a I'm pay double that!
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Has MacGuire ever attempted an English accent? I just can't see him pulling this off. He just seems too California-modern to me. Please, cast a Brit! ... Cast Simon Pegg!
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Rerun wants the precious!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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like it or hate it in That 70's Show, Topher oozed the attitude that Peter Parker should have had, Tobey was terribly miscast in Spider-Man and so was Kirsten Dunst. Sophia Bush should have played Mary Jane... rant over
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Ian Holm as a 69-year-old human played a 111-year-old hobbit. Should he now, as a 79-year-old play a 50-year-old hobbit? And no Tobey.
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Martin Freeman is perfect. He's not a huge name, he's older. Gandalf... "you haven't aged a day." Toby still looks like he's 12.
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And large, persistent balls.
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Too snide, too cocky- if he was Parker, I'd actively not watch those movies.
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Yes. I was kidding.
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thank you, I think Topher Grace is much more like Peter Parker than TM in any of the SpiderMan movies! And Sophia Bush has more feisty attitude than the terrible Kirsten Dunst..wtf.
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Bizarrely, I think this might work.
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Tobey Maguire is the most boring casting choice possible. He's too familiar.
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Bilbo Baggins! The bravest little Hobbit I know!
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I'll agree with you on Timberlake, if only so Justin gets a chance to say...BRING IT ON DOWN TO RIVENDELL!
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To be honest, I don't think I would even care if he looked like he aged between lord of the rings and the hobbit...despite it coming before chronologically. Would anyone even care if Ian Holm looked slightly older? Slap on some digital effects and some makeup.... surely weta could do a better job than that half-assed patrick stewart job how ever many years ago that was. Tobey Maguire could probably play frodo or frodo's brother....but for continuity's sake, just cast old Ian.
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It's not happening folks. We can all exhale.
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Probably should have figured that out...
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...I'm speechless...
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just wow
And not wow in a good way
Don't much care for Maguire as an actor
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A romantic comedy about a cross-dressing hobbit and some contraband jewelry!
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WHAT. THE. FUCK. You seriously suggest they should bring back Ian Holm, and digitally make him younger? Either you're simple, or high. Or both. Be elsewhere if you're going to talk that shit. Holy GOD, people. I haven't been this offended in a fortnight, at least. And I know he's probably wrong for it, but I do love me some Topher... if they're even CONSIDERING Tobey Maguire, they should go with Topher.
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Dec 14, 2009 8:52:19 PM CST
...Bilbo with vacant, glassy bug eyes? a puffy soft face?...
by flickapoo
...squeaky yet horse voice and a slight lisp? Bilbo with the charisma of a room temperature sample cup of semen?Thank you, no.
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Merrick threw out some obvious bullshit and you people bought it hook, line and sinker. Save your "Tobey Sucks" posts for Spider-Man 4 and relax.
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Ridiculous not to cast a Brit...in a way, Bilbo can even be construed AS Britain at the time of THE HOBBIT's writing, wanting to remain out of continental going-ons, safe in his Shire...
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It's supposed to be Tom Waits, as reported earlier. Fuck Tobey. Read it here:
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Actually, Tobey MacGuire sucked in all three SPIDER-MAN movies. He was kind of okay in Part 1 as Peter Parker -- and ONLY Peter Parker, mind you! -- but somewhere around the middle of SPIDER-MAN 2, he slowly became the impression of "Screech" that he did on SNL. No discussion of his performance in Part 3 necessary. Anyway, he's all social retard without the redeeming heroics or the classic Spidey wisecracks. Somehow, they should slip Topher Grace in as Spider-Man in the next one and chalk the first three movies as some sort of long fever-dream where he killed his own id (and his uncle). Then, 3 would make sense. Anyway, yeah, if Tobey MacGuire is playing "Bilbo", that means they'll have to get a real actor for "Spider-Man". Sounds good to me!
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a) He's nearly 80 years old, not exactly prime age for a 6 hour action/fantasy epic. I know Christopher Lee did it, but he didn't have a lot of action parts, and he wasn't in literally every scene in the film. b) The "young" Bilbo stuff from Fellowship was shot 10 years ago, and he looked ridiculous then. A lot of that was the awful wig, but still. c) That digital de-aging thing is apparently really expensive and difficult to do. Or so I've heard.
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Both would be great, and both could cary a big budget movie as well as Elijah Wood did in LOTR. Heck, I'd rather see Elijah Wood play Peter Parker than Tobey Maguire play anyone on Middle Earth. I don't care how "good" some people think he is in Brothers either, Bilbo is not for him.
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Guys, Ian Holm is EIGHTY YEARS OLD. The part of Bilbo in the Hobbit is an incredibly active one. Filming would take long, long hours every day, before dawn every days for the hours of prosthetics for those ears and feet, and even with the big stunts cgi-ed, lots and lots of running aorund and sword fighting and such. For like, a year!
Holm *is* perfect in the role, but in LotR all he had were stand around and talk scenes. The Hobbit just sheerly needs to be a younger actor to have the required energy.
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Tom Waits and Tobey Maguire, this is shaping up to be a real piece of shit if true.
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you'll get a better performance
You can snap his legs off and attach furry feet to his hips
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Digital de-aging expensive and difficult, yes. However, so was the LOTR trilogy - it could be done. A better argument is that he's just too old to be an "action star". Reflecting upon it, I guess I don't care if it's Ian Holm. But I certainly care a lot that it could be Toby. I just have ZERO interest in that. McAvoy, who has been suggested before still doesn't seem to be pissing me off. So I could deal with that. Who said Justin Timberlake? Can he do an English accent? Because I shit you not, I'd much rather see him do it than Toby.
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This movie doesn't need a high-profile, American actor as Bilbo. This movie already has a marketing budget in the $billions, called the LOTR trilogy. It sells itself.So they should take advantage of that fact and cast Bilbo with as much integrity as they cast Gandalf, Aragorn, and the rest. Give us somebody we can discover. Nothing against Maguire, but I don't want a known quantity to take me on this journey. Give me something new.
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but not the new Clash of the Titans trailer? REALLY?
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He looks interesting, I'm all for Martin Freeman as well. Mind you Matthew is 6' 3" (1.91 m) and Freeman is 5' 7" (1.70 m) meh..
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Ya, I get the whole Ian Holm-is-too old thing. But, when you hear something like 'Tobey Maguire as Bilbo', it sends me right back to that. I'd rather see some old man reprise his younger self than see that. Unknown British actor all the way. Stay away from American star for this role.
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is bilbo
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Morgan Freeman is TOO FUCKING OLD to play Bilbo in the Hobbit. That would be a horrible fucking choice, despite him being a fine actor.
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Would be a really good Bilbo, still the best casting idea I've heard so far, definitely a favorite of mine for the role.
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I felt he captured his character, and the mood of Tolkien's work, better than anyone else in the trilogy.However, anyone suggesting that he should reprise his role in "The Hobbit" films is fucking nuts.
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They are not going to digitally de-age a character for 2 ENTIRE FUCKING MOVIES. Never going to happen. Plus the fact that an 80 year old isn't going to be running around a forest.
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But I like it, I think he'd make a fine hobbit.
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Please let it be April first, please.
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I totally agreed that he's too old. However, we're talking about PJ and Guillermo with a budget big enough to run small countries. It COULD be done - that's all I'm saying. I don't believe it should be, nor am I advocating it. I'm just saying it IS possible.
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Tobey Maguire as Bilbo? NO PEACE!
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LMAO! Where did you get the idea Bilbo is YOUNG in THE HOBBIT? He was 50...Martin Freeman is currently 38!
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Look at a pic of Ian and Jack side by side. It is pretty uncanny really and he could pass pretty easily as a younger Ian Holm. They would have to really keep Jack's shenanigans on a short leash. I have faith he has the acting ability in him even tough we have not seen it yet really.
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How this bland actor got this far in hollywood is beyond me!
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I agree with the person that said they should get an unknown ... just find an unknown of higher quality than, say, Jake Lloyd.
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It was supposed to be comedy gold that appears to have failed miserably.
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Alright, I just looked up a picture of him, and he's aged considerably over the last few years. So... I guess maybe they were right about a recast. That being said, go with someone no one's heard of from the stage, or something respectable. As has been stated, no one is going to go to this because it has an actor they've heard of. They're going because it's the Hobbit. Anyways... the less terrible rumours like this, the better for everyone.
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Yes, "It COULD be done", but at what expense? Firstly the gargantuan amount of money it would add to the budget. Secondly the total disconnect between the character and the audience (the lead role would pretty much be a CGI puppet). Finally the most important cost would be to an old mans health, the poor bugger probably wouldn't even survive such a long and arduous shoot.So drop it, there's no point in even entertaining the idea.
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Oh. SMUGNESS DISENGAGE IN...5...4...3...2...1...
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You would probably just go with the actor/Holm in regular makeup for non-action, dialogue type scenes, and rather than try to get him to run around, just have a digital double, or an actor with Holm's likeness digitally transplanted (tracking a whole digital head is easier than de-ageing and tracking), or hell, just do what they did in the OTHER films and have a little person wear a mask. Action scenes are longer/wider shots after all. I don't think it's as big a deal as all you Nancies are freaking out about. There's no Godly reason why they WOULD have an 80 year old running around a forest!
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He laughs at death!
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That's right, bitches. PJ and GdT will do right by the fans and select someone who will motherfucking OWN the role. You fuckin know it,
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But if he was cast, I'd trust del Toro enough to give Maguire a chance as Bilbo. Personally, I'd like to see Michael Sheen play him. He'd be great, but I'm afraid the studio wants a big name to pull audiences, and Maguire or someone on that level is probably who they will go with. For better or worse, I just don't see them headlining two 200 million pictures with an unknown in the lead. Do you?
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Love they guy, but how will he shed the Forrest Hills accent & don a sweet middle earth accent? FUGHETTABOUTIT!!!!
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Not what I think of. James McAvoy is a better choice. Ewan McGregor is a MUCH better choice than Peter Parker.
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Jackson could do the de-ageing thing if he wanted - he does own Weta, and he does have a LOT of money, and will have a big budget for these... he'd could do it just for the yucks!
It's still amazing to me that he made the other movies for 265 million for ALL THREE. I can't remember if that's U.S. or N.Z. (which would be even more outrageous), but that's pretty astounding. New Line has made over 2 billion on each movie just from theatrical and DVD (and still tried to screw Jackson and the actors). Not that I care about B.O., it's just pretty amazing, and all I'm saying is that even though there's no real need for digital de-ageing, he's probably got carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wants.
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That is all
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Oh,And First! Posters have small cocks
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...along with all the freaking out about who "could" play him and/or digital de-aging: has Mr. Holm even said he wants to do it? I remember at one time, way back - maybe on the SE bonus docs? - him saying he would. But I might even be imagining that. Anybody have word on whether he'd want to do it or not? Then we can get all in a bunch about the de-aging. lol In regards to that, though. With Guillermo being an imaginative film-maker, PJ and Weta having CREATED software for the LOTR trilogy, PJ now being "in" with Spielberg and Cameron having a new kind of motion cap available for use by others, I think we're kind of jumping the gun on what it would cost and/or look like if they went with the digital de-aging. I agree that it could, and probably WOULD, be some combination of things we can't even imagine (unless some of you are secretly working with the people listed above). Howevah! I'm actually kind of concerned about the fact that Viggo is heading off to Spain to do a play next year and in every interview I've read about the road he's graciously answered questions about The Hobbit with an, "I haven't been contacted, but I'd love to do it". Same with Ian McKellen. At one time he had a very active website where he announced future projects very far in advance. Anybody know if he's had anything to say about it recently? I'm starting to get the feeling we may have a completely different cast for these films.
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Let's face it, part of what worked about the LOTR movies was the use of lesser known (or unknown) actors who can fit the role. If they aren't going to go with Ian Holm, then find a younger actor with experience and charisma whom we likely haven't seen before in anything mainstream. Don't go all Hollywood on The Hobbit just because you can.
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Make a little more sense since we're playing SimCastingDirector 2.0.
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Who cares, this is a false report anyway.
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Gandalf to Bilbo in Fellowship..not to mention the prologue clearly shows Ian Holm picking up the ring in Gollum's cave.
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He just gotta!
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... for LOTR quadruple dip
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Even worse than some of the crazier ideas I've read in Talkbacks. Maguire is okay for certain roles, though his humorless emo Spiderman has really taken some of the luster off a fairly promising career. Nevertheless, I think he would be a horrible Bilbo. Anyway, I think he's a bit too much of a "movie star" rather than an "actor" these days, and that's not the way they should go about casting this film. The ensemble needs to be balanced.
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I respect Tobey as an actor and all but this casting choice is just...
Un-f'ing-believable! :-(
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...says he's performing in Waiting For Godot in London, 21 January - 3 April 2010. And IMDb lists The Hobbit 1 and 2 as his only future projects. I'm going to roll with that being an answer to the McKellen question. Still a wee bit concerned about Viggo, though. However, technically speaking, he would only be in whatever parts they add to connect The Hobbit to the LOTR trilogy. Aragorn isn't in The Hobbit proper.
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Now we're just yammering on about Hobbit casting.
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I can't see why the issue of a star would be what would motivate the studio to green light this. Who in the lord of the rings was a star? I mean, these movies are going to be thrown money, and with people on board like jackson and del toro, not to mention mckellen, sirkis, and the hopefully immortal christopher lee..... I don't understand the argument that a studio 'needs' a star. With the track record of the past trilogy, I would imagine this project, more than any, will have the freedom to do whatever the hell it wants.
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...only exists if you bother to buy each version. Just don't buy them all and it's not an issue.
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Hopefully this really is a false rumor. I still think Ian can and should do this part.
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Dec 14, 2009 10:06:10 PM CST
Anton Yelchin looks just like like Ian Holm as Bilbo!!!!!!!!!!
by thejudger
For fucksakes... There's no need for a wig even. Antons hair is curly as fuck- just like the wig Ian rocked as Bilbo.. Yelchin is Bilbo. Game, set, match! Tobe must be a we can sell it on the name thing. The guy who looks like Ian as Bilbo, and who also looks a little like he could be kin to Frodo. Is Anton Yelchin. Why hasnt this been locked yet, why not him. Why???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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tobey maguire is a better actor than elijah wood. so id be fine with it. then again, i rape for a living. so... does my opinion matter? not a fucking chance.
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I'm sorry, but NOBODY escaped the suck of Spider-Man 3. NOBODY. Topher Grace was just as fucking annoying as everybody else in the fucking film.
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I can't believe people are complaining about Maguire's "blandness," when there has never been a blander actor than Elijah Wood. Fuck it... let's just see The Hobbit get 300-ized like every other fantasy film. Bilbo can be bald and have a six-pack. "This is... The Shire!"
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both LOTR articles require the same headline
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First off, McQuire is a very good actor. Watch BROTHERS and you'll see a VERY different performance from him.
But, I think he's much too young to play Bilbo. Bilbo was way into middle age when Gandalf "Nudged him out the door".
If it were say, casting for Frodo, maybe, sure. But not for Bilbo.
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He kinda sucked, but he straddled the line pretty well. You can't really repeat that , to be honest. He sort of put a face to the movie, or at least one of them, and I can't really see the same movie without him. That being said, don't make the same sort of mistake again. British Actor must be cast. must.
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and if you don't agree, your a racist
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Dec 14, 2009 10:32:12 PM CST
This is my blessing. This is my curse.
by johndillingers20inchseveredcock
Who am I? Bilbo Baggins!
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Dec 14, 2009 10:32:36 PM CST
Bilbo Baggins killed Uncle Ben after the Sandman did it!
by johndillingers20inchseveredcock
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Nick Frost as Bilbo. As in this picture. http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2981598720/nm0296545
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Because you are a fucking idiot.
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and start filming.
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who plays Bilbo:
resembles Ian Holm, should be 40-50 years old and look out-of-shape, should be able to act. So Maguire, Freeman and that skinny twat McAvoy are all totally wrong for the part. David Mitchell would be a better choice (but still not right). This part needs a good character actor NOT a star-type. It's not going to be an easy one to cast. -
Yelchin is nowhere near right for the part of Bilbo. Not even close. Too young, and sorry, doesn't look that much like Holm.
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if you think Holm should do Hobbit. FUCKING 80 years old. Hello?
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I usually try to stay positive with most movie news, etc... I like to give everything a chance until I actually see it for myself but this is just a big steaming pile of shit! Tobey Maguire sucks... he's always the same blank-expression, tone-deaf, boring Tobey Maguire no matter what role he's supposedly portraying. Jesus, I hope this doesn't come to fruition!
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That's why they're casting now. Get somebody on a high carb, high fat diet and keep them of the exercise wheel until the movie starts filming, plus makeup and affects.
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This rumor was refuted by Movieline 6 HOURS before you posted the story.
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Way to check your sources for accuracy.
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But I kinda hope they go with a lesser known, someone not so distracting. And I absolutely loathe him as Spider-Man.
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I think fanboys put way too much thought into casting. I don't see how Spider-Man 3 being disappointing should make you shit your pants over Tobey as Bilbo. Most fanboy casting is simply based on whoever sports the right hairstayle (Larry David as Vulture dur dur dur dur) Hint! Actors can shave their heads.
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Since I know Guillermo and Peter probably peruse the AICN talkbacks every night before they get into their jammies and tell ghost stories over cookies and milk. No seriously though guys Martin Freeman. Bug-eyed Tobey Maguire isn't going to age in to puffy old Ian Holm. And he's just way too Tobey Maguire. I bet he won't even hit the gym so he can get ripped enough to play a Hobbit.
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Do you really want the Tobester playing TWO major genre roles? That's what I thought, Pete/Guilly.
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Not everything would need to be done by Holm himself. Many scenes in LOTR also involve stand-ins for the hobbits, and IIRC Bilbo wears a cloak pretty much throughout the story. Plus there are other possibilities; CGI'ing Holm's head on a double where necessary, for instance (a la Christopher Lee in AOTC, except better). I'm just brainstorming.
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Why do I even give a shit? Whatever is going to happen will happen, and we will all go see the movie no matter if that guy from little people big world is cast as bilbo. To be honest, the only thing we have to look forward to is the film itself. The rest of this speculation is nothing more than a jack-off. So. Here's hoping everyone knows what they're doing, and in a few years we'll all know for sure.
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You're really this set on seeing CGI Ian Holm? I think it would be more distracting to get pulled out of the movie by Uncanny Valley Holm than some other actor I'd accept in about five minutes. (Martin Freeman.) I could see your point if they started making this 6 years ago but I doubt the man would even take a lead role like this at this point. He's 80, he's probably not built for 20 hour days anymore. If he died it would be a disaster, and they'd probably have to replace half the cast if they had to do re-shoots or delay the movie and figure out how to finish it with their existing CGI. DO YOU WANT THAT, HOLM FANS? JERKS!
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the film. Please Pete and Guil, have a word and say no.
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Just putting it out there....there has been talks of Daniel Radcliffe (blah) or James MvAvoy (not bad)....
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I think I just puked a little.
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And McG as Dooshu Baggins
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Fucking guy is 80 years old ...
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has it right. It would be a mess and trying to CGI retrofit Holm's head onto another actor would be money that could be better spent on sets, costumes, etc. Sometimes you just have to re-cast a damn role.
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It's hard to think of a "similar to Ian Holm's portrayal of Bilbo but young" actor....I sha;; go back to my thinking tree!!
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Imagine it... Guillermo directing, and Benicio in the lead role. It's gold, I tell ya!
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So says TheOneRing.Net and I trust them and their sources. On top of the fact that this would be like casting Kate Bosworth (no offense) as Lois Lane for all the same (wrong) reasons.
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Tobey's cameo in Fear And Loathing as a hippie hitchhiker.. Tobey was freaking hilarious in that cameo and it was possibly the best work he's done ! ok enough sidetracked comments... Benicio is a good choice....I vote yes!
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Please, Please. . . Noooooooooo!
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...so this seems appropriate.
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There is a very similar 'vibe' to Tobey and Elijah, which I thought of when I first saw this...still. wrong.
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Martin Freeman
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Tobey has gotten progressively worse as the Spider-Man movies went on, the whole sleepwalking through his roles things aint working anymore. Gimme someone with a little bit of life to him. Martin Freeman could be a good choice.
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Dec 15, 2009 12:17:58 AM CST
I would lose faith in movies if PJ and Del Toro cast Tobey
by gradeamoron
in the Hobbit; he is so wrong for that part, too recognizable. It would honestly destroy the fantasy of it all. Why can't they just cast an unknown?
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But I still don't think it's a good argument. There are enough corpulent Brits around, lord knows.
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I'm avoiding buying the Blu-ray and now this!!!
Why is this franchise pissing all over the fans.. Tobey Mcguire's crying scene in SPiderman 3 should tip off exactly what this actor is capable of emotions-wise. Give me a break... Cast an unknown please... -
... there is no other.
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Oh wait, that would be worse..
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That would make more sense..
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Crying will be a particularly handy skill-set when it comes time to end the Hobbit 2 with a hugging intensive romp in the bedroom.
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I go away from AICN for awhile and this moronic bombshell hits? There are 1000 actors better suited for this role.
Bilbo is supposed to be a bit naive of the ways of the world, but he's not supposed to be like Frodo. How the flying fuck could they have picked such a perfect Bilbo for LOTR and then turn up this turd of an idea? In the last "who do you want Bilbo to be played by" here in AICN there were dozens of better actors suggested.This stupidity, if it's true, only bolsters my belief that Peter Jackson simply got lucky. His portrayal of Galadriel in LOTR when she freaks out was so way off base, it almost lost me. Yet, the Mouth of Sauron was so dead on awesome. He must smoke crack of some variety, or be very random
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Can't imagine anyone more perfect for the role - he would even have shades of the Orson Bean portrayal from the Rankin/Bass cartoons. Tobey = Mopey.
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he's good for every part
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You guys got this covered, then. Guillermo! Pay attention here.
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There has always been a certain vague androgyny going on with the hobbits somehow, it could work.
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Dec 15, 2009 1:26:45 AM CST
Ludacris as Bilbo would be better casting than this little fuck
by randysavage
If this is true and Peter Jackson had a say, than that Kiwi's sullen, formerly-fat, now-starved and bearded head id up his ass when it comes to casting (see Jack Black and that goof with the huge nose in King Kong)
Another American faking a british accent... just what The Hobbit needs.
And not just any American - Hollyweird's own droopy-faced, whiny, slightly retarded, real-life Alf Alfa - Tobey McGuire.
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Okay, his cameo as himself (I.E. Gollum without mo cap) in Return of the king probably boned this idea, but he'd be perfect for Bilbo.
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Now that I know who this is, I think he's also a great choice for bilbo and even looks the part. I could totally see him as a young ian holm, but I can't imagine watching him throughout two movies. A little bland.
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CGI him down to half of his size and replace his face with Zac Efron's. Done.
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how to passable act.
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A little make up and some digital smoothing a la Milla Jojovich and there it is - continuity! I won't lie to you about your chances. You have my symapthies.
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sympathies
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Sammy would be perfect for the Bilbo role.
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If they consider a Toby, it must be Toby Jones. That guy IS a fucking hobbit. James McAvoy, Martin Freeman, and Ewan MacGregor would also be excellent choices. Hell, I think the Nick Frost suggestion is fucking brilliant! He's probably not right for the part, but tell me you wouldn't love to see what the hell he would do with the role.
As for Ian Holm... Let it go! He was great in LOTR but it was a small non-physical role. Time has caught up to the old boy. Holm is a fine actor, but there are plenty of other actors out there who would do a great job and it would be no disrespect to Holm. You shitheads *do* realize that in the history of cinema different actors have played the same role, don't you? Jesus... -
...WIN!!!
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No makeup/CGI necessary. Just let Statham do his thing.
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...And Michelle Rodriguez as Lawdeena The Elf Queen.
"WHAT THE FUCK...? WHERE ALL THESE FUCKING GIANT SPIDERS COME FROM, MAN-N-N-N-NG?!" -
Spidey 3 sucked, not Tobey. With the right material he can make it work. Fairly appealing actor.
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tobie was good in that horse movie. what was it called...milkwagon or something. someone help me out...
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You can't do this to me...
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Dec 15, 2009 2:46:50 AM CST
i just hope they don't use any actor that has appeared ...
by iwasredempted
in harry potter. except maybe michael gambon..such a good actor.
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I think that would work. I like Tobes but not for this
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Cox, that good looking chap from Stardust, is a fine young British actor who would be simply bad ass in The Hobbit. Book him now.
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Just check out his role in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe if you don't quite buy him as Bilbo. And roles such as The Last King of Scotland and Atonement proves the guy can act.
Now Tobey Maguire on the other hand, pisses me off to no end. It's not that I don't think he has the acting chops, he does. He's just not right for this role. McAvoy does.
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I meant McAvoy is not McAvoy does...
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i havent seen him in anything else so he might just suck in everything.
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replace Ian Holm with an aged Toby Maguire for Fellowship. I mean it's not like it hasn't been done before. ;)
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http://bit.ly/6uTrSV
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Topher Grace was just as dire as Toby M in Spiderman 3 and that can be laid at the feet of Raimi who was just plain lazy with that movie. Lazy script, lazy directing, lazy movie.
A decent director could get a decent performance from him I'm sure.
And let's face it, 'anyone' would be an improvement on Elijah Wood who's entire performance consisted of walk a bit, roll eyes back in head, fall over, walk a bit, roll eyes back in head, fall over for three fucking films! -
Tracy Morgan for Bilbo.
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...look exactly the fucking same as Elijah Wood. And Jake Gyllenhaal. Really, they ought to play siblings in a film.
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Love the idea someone had upthread of casting David Mitchell. :)
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at least go with jake gyllenhal (the obvious choice if we're barking up that tree) or, gee, i don't know maybe ELIJAH FUCKING WOOD?
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You say tomato...
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...you know it makes sense
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...this is just bunk. McAvoy dammit, McAvoy!
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...A young Ian Holm
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That's who you want for the role. He looks like Ian Holm. He can act, is light enough for the comic stuff but can do drama, plus he's not well-enough known to bring any baggage with him to the part. Sign him up now and get on with making the movies dammit.
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you got a problem with that?
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For me, Bilbo Baggins will forever be the one from the Rankin/Bass cartoon from te 70's. Freemans look and Acting style, mixed with his dry British delivery make him the perfect choice in my eyes.
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Than the last time he played Bilbo in Fellowship. CGI might be able to make him look younger, but not act younger.
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i agree!!
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Dec 15, 2009 5:44:42 AM CST
Ho-lee crap, this thread is proof positive that most TBers
by white_vader
don't bother to read previous posts in the thread. Pretty funny watching all the lemmings though.
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Kinda works against him, don'cha think?
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Toby Maguire should stick to playing grandsons of old women who can act better than him.
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BOBBIT RHYMES WITH HOBBIT! LOL ROFLE LMAO!
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theonering.net debunked this rumor
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Bilbo isn't Frodo's father so he doesn't need to look like him at all. I would love a relatively unknown actor as Bilbo and for him to be 30-40, no way as young as what Elijah Wood was. Martin Freeman would actually be quite good because you could buy him as a younger Ian Holm, it's just whether he could pull off the performance.
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Makes sense if you think about it
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Dec 15, 2009 6:51:46 AM CST
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
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are proof positive.
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Spider BOY, maybe. Man? nope.
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not too young, likeable enough, cheeky charm.
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That's an awful idea. Just plain awful.
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Toby Maguire's way too laid back, bad fit. Tons of great actors out there who'd be more appropriate; even Martin Freeman is closer to the mark.
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Yeah!
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Shudda da hell up wills ya. Yous knows naffing.
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Dec 15, 2009 7:37:15 AM CST
not sure why he's flip flopping between being in "the know"
by just pillow talk
and being a "regular" talkbacker. Perhaps you weren't getting enough attention JettL?
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I dont understand the Tobey hate. I enjoyed the Spider Man flims,(3 did have its issues but was that mostly due to studio crap?) and keep hearing he gave a gritty quality performance in "Brothers". Cut the dude some slack.
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You watch it happen.
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But Martin Freeman? Now THAT could be interesting.
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Now I don't want to see this at all. Fuck that whiny bitch. MEAN FACE!
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I guess Worthington has overtaken him as the Hollywood's "must cast him in everything" sweepstakes.
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...might actually look the part - worried, lost, and not up for an adventure at all. If The Beef had a solid Brit accent and was willing to pack on about 40 lbs, I'd actually think that there was finally a natural role for the guy.
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Shoot it. Print it. Inna the can. Old school.
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no way no how dont let it happen please, he is awful. James macavoy david tennant jamie bell all are better choices and british or scottish able to do a more hobbit like accent instead of elijah wood and tobey maguires stale sounding emotionless tones
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My final and most sincere choice.
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There could be no Bilbo Baggins without her.
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I'm with the writer. McGuire would absolutely be dreadful for the role. Maybe it's just the way Raimi directs him, but he's become very whiney in the Spider-man series. I continue to hold out for McAvoy. I think he's perfect for the part. A great actor that shows as much with his face and his body as he does with his voice. Plus, I really think Tobey is too big now with a fairly iconic recognition as the webslinger. RINGS was great because the biggest actors in the entire film series were actors that were more or less big according to critical circles. The only real sellout was the casting of Liv Tyler there. I think that's the best way to approach the casting with the HOBBIT too. Don't let the actors be bigger than the film(s).
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He has already ruined the Spider-man movies, please don't allow him to ruin another franchise.
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THAT would be amazin'.
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easy choice. He would be able to bring that nervous energy he has in Doctor Who.
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That guy can act. lol
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The man would be perfect. Absolutely perfect.
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Considering the collective knowledge talkbackers should have, all the suggestions have been truly dreadful. McAvoy is TOO DAMN YOUNG for one thing, has a face you want to PUNCH HARD and is also way too skinny. Freeman is an OK guy but NOT a good actor (sorry Martin). He sounds like he has a perma-cold and is basically fit only for low-budget comedy. McGregor (again - nice guy) has ZERO screen presence and ruins everything he's in. David Tennant?! If you want the tallest, thinnest hobbit ever who gapes a lot - great. Nick Frost - again not really an actor and the same goes for his mate Pegg (both should stick to comedy).
I'd rather see Tracey Morgan as Blackbo (I still want to see "A Blaffair to Rememblack"). PS A pedantic correction to the post way above - Holm played Frodo in the BBC Radio LOTR (the late,great John Le Mesurier played Bilbo). -
TORN says ain't no way. And let's face it, with Guillermo posting on their site, they will probably be the first to know. I predict a dual announcement between Warner's and TheOneRing.net.
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Holy shit, this is a fucking nightmare. If they so much as consider that fucking doofus they would RUIN these film in one fell swoop. Security, please escort Mr Maguire off the premises. Everyone knows McAvay was born to play Bilbo, they must not look at anyone else.
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And by alive I mean self-aware and moving. Not like Mickey Rooney.
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I see talks falling through on this. It will conflict with Spider-man 4 filming and he's already contracted to do those starting in I think February. Unless they really want Pleasantville for the role and are willing to wait, I don't see this being anything to concern ourselves with.
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http://tinyurl.com/yc65dtg
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Has no one actually read the book? Paul Giamatti for Bilbo all the way.
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They are both age appropriate and fit bill for a semi-known British actor to play Bilbo.
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Just plain stinkin' awful rumor.
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He doesn't need to be Bilbo in the film. I just want a short prologue with Ian Holm as the voice of old Bilbo saying about how this is the story he wrote callled "There and Back Again". I don't think Tobey is right for Bilbo (He is meant to be a bit tubby in the belly at the start of the story). Could I change my mind if Tobey put on some pounds and put on one of Elijah Woods hobbit wigs and feet? Maybe. Is Tobeys whiny Peter Parker voice his natural one? I hope not because that doesn't suit the vision of Bilbo I have.
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Pretty much the same type of casting choice.
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Fanboys don't know shit about casting movies.
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I dig all things David Tennant, but he's WAY taller than Tobey Maguire. I mean, there was a reason Maguire was able to pull off playing a joackey in SEABISCUIT.
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Tobey? Too....squeaky?
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Guillermo, I just saved you a mint on CGI and makeup. YOU'RE WELCOME!!!
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"Bilbo with vacant, glassy bug eyes? a puffy soft face?...squeaky yet horse voice and a slight lisp? Bilbo with the charisma of a room temperature sample cup of semen?
Thank you, no."
Flickapoo, I can add nothing to your expertly observed description! Flicka for the win!
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What the FUCK?
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I've heard James McAvoy's name so often on this that I thought he'd already been cast!
WANTED is not a very good example of why he's perfect for the role. Better to look at his scene-stealing turns in LION WITCH AND WARDROBE and ATONEMENT. But also he DOES bear a physical resemblance to Elijah and simply put... the fucker looks like a Hobbit!
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Tobey? You bought this? OH AICN..how far you've fallen. Bilbo WILL BE James McAvoy. Discussions about shooting with him are FAR down the road already.
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I seriously hope Toby is reading this. If the cat was a fucking professional he'd pull his name out of consideration;...as he has to know he is top to fucking bottom wrong for this part.
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McAvoy definitely follows the Hobbit look established in the LOTR films. I think he's also a good enough actor and can pull off the unenthusiastic nervousness of Bilbo. He's younger than I would have liked but it could be MUCH worse (see: Maguire, Tobey).
Giamatti would be a great choice, too, especially if they wanted Bilbo to be older. That guy can definitely bring the nervousness.
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When Gandalf leaves the dwarf party in the hands of Bilbo it's to go off with a group of wizards and defeat the necromancer. I'm guessing this is the part that gets expanded in the PJ Hobbit. So has anyone heard whether or not Christopher Lee is coming back in this one? Because this would be before his fall from grace so it would be doable. As for casting Bilbo I've always imagined John Hurt. Of course he is at least 20 years too old for the part. At least with PJ you don't have to worry about casting Jim Carrey or Jack Black as Bilbo.
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I like Maguire, a lot. Merrick's opinion is meaningless to me...
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I like Tobey, but my gut feeling is that he'd be poorly cast as Bilbo. Guess we'll see.
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Dec 15, 2009 2:18:02 PM CST
Forget the Hobbit. How about a theatrical re-relaese of AIRPLANE
by finky089
30th anniversary next year, ya know.
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Cobra--Kai, McAvoy looks less like a hobbit and more like the sort of scrawny twerp who inexplicably ends up with a hot girlfriend (although his wife is a weird-looking bug-eyed creature). If he's cast, I will weep and perhaps vomit a little. Paul Giamatti on the other hand - THAT'S the sort of actor the role needs. Good idea Gene_Parmesan.
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Just because he wasn't that great in Spiderman 3? Give me a break..what about all of the other good roles hes given us? Also, Tobey Maguire looks a lot like Elijah Wood. Isn't Bilbo Frodo's uncle?? That sort of makes sense to me, that they would want someone who resembles Wood without obviously getting Wood to play his uncle. And whoever thinks Holm should still play Bilbo is an even bigger moron than people who are bitching about Maguire. The guy is 78 years old and has prostate cancer you fools.
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They could totally reverse Benjamin Buttons Holms' old ass.
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instead of young, but I see why they would go in that direction: audience demographics.
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honestly...that dudes corpse would STILL make a better Bilbo than mopey, dopey Tobey. Tobey is just wrong for the part.
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That would be too expensive and too time consuming. Plus you just know that they are going to take the easy way out and just cast someone younger. Looks like it's going to be Tobey. If not him, I could see them trying to get Jake Gyllenhaal next...
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for gods sake it cant be tobey 'effing' maguire!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please god NO!!!!!!!!!!! it has to be MARTIN FREEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! for 1. hes about the right age 2. he looks remarkably like a younger ian holm 3. he's a good actor whos relatively unknown 4. he's quirky and funny!!! 5. he's english!!! what more do you need!!!!!!! all boxes ticked i think!!!!
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whoever came up with that. He would make a great Hobbit and he's British. Don't know why, but I'd rather see a Brit play this role.
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He's not all that old and decrepid is he? Plus, I thought that the whole point was that once he comes into possession of the ring (or it of him) at the end of The Hobbit, he hardly ages in all the years leading up to the Fellowship of The Ring. If Holm is physically able to still play the character, baring a little cgi for action scenes etc, then they should get him back to play the character and preserve the continuity. The more I hear about this film the more I'm really not wanting to watch it. Toby Maguire... Replacing a british thesp with a fucking yank.
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I know producers never believe us when we say things like that - and for the most part they're right - but in this case - I honestly will NOT be able to get into the movie if Peter Parker is playing Bilbo.
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ANYTHING BUT TM playing Bilbo
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Dec 15, 2009 4:48:20 PM CST
Internet reviewer or Guillermo De Toro? Guillermo Del Toro or in
by dolmes
Who's judgment do I trust? Hmmm Internet reviewer or the director of Pan's Labyrinth? Hmmm lets see now, this may take some time.
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He looks like a younger Ian Holm and is great at pulling off the stuffy British dudeness of Bilbo. But he's looking pretty haggard nowadays, will be busy directing Thor, and is not the young guy the studios will demand. McAvoy or Freeman it must be. Frost as dwarf. Bombur perhaps?
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He's the new, young Ewan McGregor. Yelchin from Terminator Salvation and Star Trek is a good bet as well, but my money's on Mcavoy landing the part.
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Heavy-set shut in, that eats 5 meals a day, master of riddles, an every-man type character,
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I've seen enough of their work to make that statement. Thank you.
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Pig-Vomit would be a good fit. JRR had a middle-age out of shape Schlub in mind for this character.
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"Yeeeeeaaaaah boi!"
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Nothing personal against Peter Jackson, Del Toro (except for those shitty Hellboy films), Tobey Maguire, or WETA -- but sorry, no deal fellas.To me, Ian Holm was just freaking perfect, except now that this is a big budget film he's too old for the toddler to teeny bopper audience that New Line will focus all the marketing on. McAvoy or Yelchin would be better picks than Macguire, but still no cigar I'm afraid.You see, the proper way to do this would've been to make The Hobbit before or directly after The Lord of the Rings trilogy. The reason being that Jackson would've probably directed and the principal returning cast could've been the same (Bilbo, Gandalf, and Elrond). Hell, they could've even reused the Hobbitown and Rivendel sets, as well as some other ones redressed as different locations since the visual style and Middle Earth geography is similar in some places.The problem now is that with Del Toro at the helm, you just know he'll add his own artistic flourishes. I'm sorry, but as good as it might be, it won't be the same and the continuity will be compromised. Add to this all the years between and a new actor playing Bilbo and it is not hard to see that the window of opportunity has passed. Just look at the Star Wars prequels, Indy IV, and the Terminator and Alien series.
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he killed younglings. nuff said
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Suggesting him is stupid. Asking why he isn't being considered is even more ridiculous.
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the problem with the hobbit is the same as with remakes, prequels and reboots; we know what is going to happen, therefore no drama, no tension, no surprises.
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How would anyone who hasn't read The Hobbit know what's going to happen? Aside from Bilbo ending up with the Ring, what other bit of info are you suggesting people know about?
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apparently we shouldn't make adaptations any more. Cause we all know what's going to happen, no fun boo hoo.
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people must mix up him and Elijah all the time. But the other suggestions you guys have made, like Sturgess and McAvoy are good too. But my favorite suggestion is Benicio. I don't think I'd ever leave the theater if he was playing Bilbo. Also being reminded of Fear and Loathing, I'm thinking he could sing a reprise of "One Toke Over the Line".
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The little dude in this video: http://tinyurl.com/y9ezsby
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For a long time I've been struggling with the reality that Ian Holm is not be capable at his age to handle such a physically strenuous role. He is, however, the perfect Bilbo and deserves to be prominently involved in the films. Here are my thoughts:
So how could they use Holm without him actually being cast throughout the film? Simple. Holm-Bilbo is writing the first part of the Red Book of Westmarch in Rivendell as the events of LOTR are unfolding (which would be accurate according to Tolkien). After all, Bilbo WAS the ostensible author of at least part of that (fictional) manuscript. Holm's involvement could be sprinkled throughout the first movie and he might be used minimally (if at all) in the second movie. This actually would work as the older Bilbo (by Holm) could describe Bilbo in any way--close but not necessarily exactly like a younger Holm''s Bilbo would look. This would solve the "frail, increasingly ancient Holm" problem, as Holm's Bilbo without the Ring is aging rapidly in Rivendell as he writes. I think this cinematic device (The Hobbit as flashback as Bilbo writes it) would be a stunning, poignant cinematic conceit if filmed sparingly and wisely. It could all take place, in fact, between the Long Expected Party and Frodo & Co.'s Flight to the Ford.
This seems like an elegant compromise to the Holm dilemma. I can even envision a humorous bit near the beginning where Holm's Bilbo imagines himself in a wig (as in the FOTR flashback under the Misty Mountains) and scraps that image, opting for a slightly different, younger (and perhaps a bit trimmer) version of himself (conveniently played by a younger actor that somewhat resembles Holm but who doesn't need to be a dead ringer).
At any rate, the whole literary conceit (which JRRT himself used) fits in nicely with the idea of all five films coming from Bilbo's original manuscript. I love metafiction, and this narrative device would certainly be in the spirit of the professor's own creation. It's a nice tip of the hat to both Holm's brilliant performance and JRRT's brilliant "translation" of the Bilbo's/Frodo's/Sam's first hand report of the events surrounding Sauron's rise to power and the hobbits' sudden relevance late in the 3rd Age, and--of course--the War of the Ring. And there are fine opportunities to jump from past events (from and after The Hobbit) to "present" interruptions and even poignant scenes between Bilbo and old friends in Rivendell. This would have to be handled carefully, of course, but I think it could potentially be beautifully filmed by the likes of GDT, who is such a master of pacing and character interaction in his past movies.
There also would be a perfect opportunity to bookend the "you haven't aged a day" comment at the beginning of the second film: Balin comes (with Gandalf) to visit Bilbo a good many years after the events in The Hobbit. It was "long ago" when remembered by Frodo in "The Council of Elrond" in FOTR, but it would've fit nicely into the events of the coming second film and would be a good opportunity for Gandalf to note Bilbo's appearance (and for it later to make sense when Gandalf observes that Bilbo hasn't "aged a day"). This might also work nicely if after the first film the filmmakers have dispensed with Holm-Bilbo's literary conceit--what we have in that case is the "real" Bilbo unaltered or adapted by the "author" (i.e., Bilbo himself). Does that make sense?
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hooray!!!
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...so this sounds ok.
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he's gotta be a jumpy Brit
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I actually love this idea...and I happen to think that Martin Freeman would be fantastic, and James Mcavoy would be a good close second...that's all
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Yet there is still no update stating as much. Once again Merrick's work ethic astounds me.
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i have never liked maguire. i thought casting him as spiderman was bad, but this is even worse. no way he pulls off Bilbo with anything close to the grace and charisma of ian holm.
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- and all my loser friends "had to work" or they went to stupid Christmas parties and stuff. Oh well, ended up watching Zombieland by myself. Fuckers.
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Who wants to watch that whiney bitch whinge his way through yet another role? The thing is, when he gets OFF camera he whines all the time too. What the fuck? You've got it sooooo hard, Jaimie...
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I agree with Captain RawBeard...I always said since way before Spider-man was a movie that Topher Grace should be cast as Peter Parker.
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Wrong wrong wrong idea! No!
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Just get a damn unknown and film this mother already!!! And get Tom Waits in the recording booth to lay down his Smaug lines before he o.d.'s or something.
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I just saw him in "The Illusionist" and realized it would be an excellent choice. He has the right height, body shape, and face, and he also happens to be a brilliant actor! In 'Sideways', he practically was a hobbit! With the proper wig and a rubber nose, I can easily see him hitting the road with a band of dwarves, grousing about the discomforts, and riddling it out with Gollum. And he's reasonably, short, which is essential not only for the story, but for the practicalities of the filmmaking!
In LOTR, elaborate effects and body-doubles were employed to shrink the hobbits beside their human counterparts. But not when they were performing with Gimli the dwarf because John Rhys-Davies was already taller than the hobbit actors. (Dwarves are taller than hobbits)
For "The Hobbit", casting a short Bilbo, at 5'6" or less, allows them greater flexibility in their choice of dwarf actors, or else expensive special effects would be required for every shot! -
No substance to it whatsoever. Apparently Maguire was under the impression that McAvoy had already been given the role. Another rumor apparently...
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Looks a bit Ian Holmish but apparently the role is already cast.
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I agree. He already has alot of body hair, dumpy-looking and can really play the put upon, lazy guy. He could just do his character from American Splendor. And maybe go Pig-Vomit on them when Oin and Gloin smash the plates.
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If it is Tobey I will not watch.
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I think Giamatti could be interesting. He certainly could pull off the proper look. A talented unknown who resembles Ian Holm and looks enough like Tolkien's description of Mr. Baggins would be the way to go for a young Bilbo.I don't know, but I still smell a Phantom Menace/Indy IV scale turd with these 2 Hobbit films. I guess I should probably reread The Hobbit several times before these films are released.
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