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Mel Gibson!! Vikings!!
Merrick here...
Mel Gibson and Leonardo DiCaprio are teaming-up to make a Viking movie. Mel is directing as well as producing with Graham King, Leo wil star.
I'm still shaking the memories of Gibson's broodingly brilliant APOCALYPTO; as savagely dark and unnerving as that film was, I can't imagine what's in store for us when Mel takes on frickin' Vikings.
The principals confirmed the project but would not divulge many details. DiCaprio, who has long been fascinated by Viking culture, will play one in a storyline that will be as unsparing as Gibson’s other period directing efforts, "Braveheart," "The Passion of the Christ" and "Apocalypto."
...reveals Variety HERE.
The new film will be scripted by William Monahan (KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, Scorsese's DEPARTED, and Martin Campbell's forthcoming EDGE OF DARKNESS).
This oughta be...something.
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Could be interesting
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Uhtred! And Wasp-Sting! And Serpent Breath! Make it happen Mel.
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Just watched braveheart on Blu-ray the other night. Gibson is a damn good director and his penchant for visceral action is practically unmatched. I think The 13th Warrior was just a mere appatizer for what Gibson will do to the genre.
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...because if he's going to convincingly play a Viking he's going to need bulk up a little.
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Dec 14, 2009 12:41:57 PM CST
mein fuhrer mein saviour, I have assembled the masses!!!
by thedannerdaliel
Vikings rule!!! Great mythology!!Thor's fishing trip owns all;)
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Anti-Semite!! Alcoholic!!
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Shit, he's older but old tough guys can still kick ass in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Shinzon just ain't Mel.
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Dec 14, 2009 12:43:06 PM CST
passion of the christ was like saw, and jesus was the victim
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
so mel gibson is basically responsible for the neverending saw movies. thanks mel. thanks alot.
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DiCaprio as a Viking?
DiCaprio AS A VIKING?!?!?!?!
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This is the type of thing I like to hear
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Dec 14, 2009 12:46:42 PM CST
Hmmmm. Not wildly enthused. Could be interesting though.
by hint_of_smegma
I'd rather Mel was making Lethal Weapon 5 though, Stallone-back-to-the-original style.
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I've been through this rant before, but it never hurts to bring it back out of retirement:
After being beaten to shit by Roman soldiers over the course of an entire weekend, how come at the end of the movie Jesus still has all his teeth?!
Hell, in 30 AD dental care wasn't exactly a primary concern, so he shoulda been missing a few teeth to begin with.
I find it very hard to believe that the same soldiers who used that vicious whip that TORE huge chunks of flesh out of his back wouldn't have kicked him in the teeth once or twice for good measure.
"You, soldier, please take this Jew, torture him to within an inch of his life, and then crucify him on the hill. But be careful not to harm his teeth. We Romans like our condemned prisoners to die with a nice healthy smile." -
DiCaprio will need all the help he can get.
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Contrary to popular belief, vikings were pretty small. Hell, everyone was in the year 900. However, their brutality and mercilessness has lent itself well to the modern romantic imagery of vikings as giants.
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A Viking movie directed by Mel....FUCK YES!!!!
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Mel is one of the VERY few directors who takes a chance, follows his heart, and makes great movies. GREAT movies. I'm a stone cold atheist and thought "Passion of the Christ" was amazing and exactly what it needed to be. EVERYTHING in that film was in every other Hollywood version of the Jesus story... even "Jesus Christ Superstar". Except for the fact that there were only trickles of blood to equate his torture/pain in those other movies. How else do you get cinema of the 21st Century to showcase Jesus standing in for our transgressions and feeling the pain we would have received. Mel is the man.
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Dec 14, 2009 12:50:24 PM CST
He doesn't have to be "big", but he also can't be . . .
by royston lodge
. . . a wussy-boy.
I can picture DiCaprio as an emo vampire before I can picture him as a child-of-Thor. -
As a Viking? lame.
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I'd go see that..
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So far, there's been only two hater posts. The rest are enthusiastic for Mel.
(I don't count my rant as a "hater" rant, cuz my only complaint is that Mel didn't quite go far ENOUGH with the violence.) -
Sure he's not Vin Diesel, but he's not the Titanic boy from 12 years ago. He probably had more meat on him in The Departed than any Viking did in 900 AD, so STFU and give him a break. Grow out his hair, give him a goatee and put him in mail with a wolf-coat cape, he'll be alright. This will kick ass.
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You read that Gibson is making a viking movie and you leap out of your chair, and then you read that dicaprio is the lead viking and you instantly lose enthusiasm.
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Gibson can do no wrong in my opinion. :)
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Im norwegian and i love reading up on this time period. vikings were not some larger than life men all with beards ect. they were all sorts shapes and sizes,but none(and i stress it NONE) had big horns on their helmets. Never has something like that EVER been found from that period. where they would get bones like that is beyond me...
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So Mel is playing Brett Favre???
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He's friggin DiCaprio!! How can any self-respecting internet-film-dork-who-will-never-amount-to-anything (like myself) NOT make fun of him!
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Before they do that, let's have The Warlord Chronicles.Balls to every other version of King Arthur - Cornwell's story rocks!
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. . . and DiCaprio plays the quarterback, that's even less believable.
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The main character will have the love of his life OR his child killed in front of him. Maybe by slitting their throat? Worked in a few of Mel's other movies, why not. This gives the main character a reason to go on an uber-violent rampage, killing every foot soldier he can until he reaches the main bad guy. Make sure to have a pan flute playing in the background. Accept Oscar nomination. Repeat.
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...then I'll take a viking movie directed by him instead. At least he's not making a movie about a beaver puppet, or some shit like that.
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Not only is he swedish, but he plays a viking vampire on True Blood. That flashback sequence from the show of him wounded after battle, being carried away by his buddies to die, was such a fucking tease. I want to see him go berserker on some motherfuckers.
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I'd love to see both their names on the same movie poster.
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Based on Gibsons last historical efforts I assume they'll be speaking old Norse. Not that I'm an expert on it but it would be a really nice touch. Is DiCaprio capable? I know he does a good Afrikaans accent but I'm a real stickler for accents. Don't get me started on Costner.
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No way. The guy was a credible tough guy in BLOOD DIAMOND but I think my suspension of disbelief might be overcome by this one. Mel, just get all the BRAVEHEART guys back together.
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Dec 14, 2009 1:01:27 PM CST
Doing the dialogue in ancient Norse would be damned cool.
by royston lodge
And MIGHT get me past my deep-seeded distaste for everything DiCaprio.
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and yeah I don't see Leo as a viking. But then I didn't see him as Howard Hughes neither.
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"Awesome" is a cliched word and highly overused on the internets, but it truly fits this news perfectly. Goddamn!
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Lo, do I see my Mother, my sisters and my brothers?
Lo, do I see the line of my people reaching back to the beginning?
The call to me. They bid me to take my place among them in the halls of Vahalla, where the brave may live forever.
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don't remember where, but remembering that look. I'm sure he can do this. Would be cool if they gave him a nasty as hell scar down one side of his face. His teeth need to look mucked up as well. I have total faith in this, and I really wish people would stop hazing Mel for his drunk speak. If booze will make a pretty girl fuck and ugly guy and vice versa. Then surely it can make people say shit they don't really mean. Lay of the Road Warrior. He's paid that shit in full. Normal people getting off on shit like this makes me sick. You guys are so lucky that your not under that microscope, that your mistakes are not known and judged by the entire fucking planet. I cant beleieve Larry David took a pot shot at him.
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and make that DVD come inside an axe.
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He did, and the Vikings were all like "Spam, spam, spam, spam, SPAM!"
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... heh heh heh.
"Hi there Mel, Leo. We here at the studio love the idea of a viking movie. But we strongly feel that we need an established brand to tie into, for marketing purposes. Luckily, we JUST secured the rights to Hagar the Horrible! It's WIN-WIN! Whattayasay?" -
Catch me if you can, probably
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Dec 14, 2009 1:09:27 PM CST
You know, Mel should direct Brad Pitt's Vlad the Impaler movie.
by royston lodge
If there's one person who could properly film someone being impaled with a blunt greased pole through the anus and out the mouth, it's Mel.
Except for the teeth thing, of course. -
Gibson + Monahan = result.
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I'm just asking questions.
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People who ask a question beginning with the word "Like" are idiots, Like Totally!!!!!
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Are you serious? Real Vikings would'nt let baby face give them a blow job. You might as well get Jim Carrey, Pee Wee Herman and the rest of the Hee Haw Gang.
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...But it made me respect Leo even more for working with Mel!
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'nuff said
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I cannot wait for this. His movies are utter quality. You might not agree with his politics, but his movies are gooooood!
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Judging by the way she smacked Woods around.
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I agree 100% Gibson is an amazing filmmaker. Passion was a polarizing yet brilliant movie. Apoccalypto very good. And Braveheart was... well Braveheart. Who didn't like Braveheart? My only problem is he likes to shoot in Digital these days. I generally hate the look of Digital.
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Spoke Old Norse, they did not wear Horned Helmets as someone already said, although a lot of them had beards, most viking graves found so far have contained hair and beard combs, they were well groomed and cleanly not dirty beasts, they actually used soap!
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there alot of creative ideas floating around and we'll be meeting to condense them and hammer out the script. I've worked with gibson twice and i look forward to the third time
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But Mad Mel's movies aren't one of them! The man can direct his ASS off! Bring on the Vikings (without Favre, please)!
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And Mel brings the Ultra-violence, not interested.
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I admit he has made some great movies BUT hello people!!! he is a devout SUPER christian, and Vikingr are not, i could see a lot of bull shit and lies about Vikingr in this making them seem like monsters needing saving from almighty Jesus and God.
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Sugar Tits.
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I sit about watching you ladyboys creaming over shit like Clash of the Titans but NOW.
MEL!
VIKINGS!
BLOODSHED!
WAR HAMMERS!
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NOW Thats a line-up!
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people read what i wrote, Mel Gibson = Super Christian + Vikingr probably = shit Vikingr movie.
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Clancy Brown, Moon Bloodgood, Violence, ad a decent story. I just didn't appreciate how they made the Natives look like a pack of bumbling idiots.
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Don't believe me? Watch What's Eating Gilbert Grape! He fucking OWNED that movie! Some of the best acting....fuck.....OF ALL TIME!
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The only way this will work is if Leo will play a boy who the vikings ass rape. Leo is a girl.
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lame casting. unless he's some kind of elf.
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Yeah. Just like he did with the Mayans, right? Oh, wait. No he fucking didn't. You'd think that you'd at least bring a criticism that was valid, not one that simply revealed your own sad bias. You'd think so, but you'd be wrong.Liked Apocalypto a lot and I'm sure that I'll love his hack at Vikings.
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Dec 14, 2009 1:57:58 PM CST
Leo will probably be 'half-viking' like Tony Curtis was
by dirk_the_amoeba
In the Vikings movie with Kirk Douglas. Leo will be the result of some mad lust or just plain old fashioned rape and pillage by Max Von Sydow - the go to Norse bad guy, of some buxom Albanian dish cleaner, and Leo is the half crazed offspring looking to find the man what did his mom dirty!
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...this is the best movie news of the year.
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You stole my line. Sorta. Was gonna suggest Leo as the five-year old Erik or Leif.And Leo a great actor? Sure. Without a doubt. Now if he could just act... taller. And like an ass-kicking berserk motherfucker with enough testosterone to drown a village. I mean, unless Mel's casting a mentally disturbed, physical abortion of a Viking. In which case, nice casting, Mel - Leo will own as the Viking version of that twisted little pervert in 300 that Leonidas wouldn't let fight...
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He's gonna play "Hoki the Dwarf" about whom many questions swirl following countless hours of volunteering to "swab the poop deck."
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Gangs of new yorq was coo', but man I couldn't wait for him to put it in a ponytail. Man in the iron masq was also crappy. The only time it worked was Catch Me If You Can, and he didn't have it for too much time.
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Now to read the article...
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Dec 14, 2009 2:07:57 PM CST
...if this is great I might forgive him for not doing MAD MAX.
by flickapoo
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Anyone who has read this Wells Tower short story knows what I'm talking about. I wonder if this is based on it.
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Have gotten taller on average over the centuries, i am guessing 5'8 was probably tall back then, even for a Vikingr.
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I can't wait for this.
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That all Vikings were 300 pounders with beards to their knees and 6 foot great swords slung across their backs. That is what Hollywood has been cramming down our throats for years. If Leo is a lean, quick spear-Dane, let it happen. It’s amazing how little the perception of Vikings has changed since the Dark Ages. Little did those monks know that they were prejudicing an entire generation of movie buffs in the talkbacks. Think people. Sheesh.
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Yes I will.
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But I just can't picture him as a viking.
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...granted, "warrior" isn't the first thing you think when you look at him, but we don't know what his role will be yet.
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There is a difference, there was no Christian influence with the Mayans, but there WERE in the later times of the Vikingr, a lot of what people believe about Vikingr today, Horned Helmet wearing rapers and pillagers, stems from a Christian perspective and they did try and succeed in either converting, torturing and killing many peoples back then. I am just saying i could see Mel taking the more Christian perspective of life back then.
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Apocalypto was a brilliant fever-dream of a movie. I loved it. Now he takes on Vikings? FUCK YEAH! Maybe this will wipe Pathfinder from my memory. It wasn't such a terrible movie, but I would like to see some decent non-monster Vikings please!
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and that's a good thing. But Leo is physically too short to play a leading viking.
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Done and done. Sign me up, first one in line, opening day. I'm sure there will be some overblown Christian overtones and several scenes in which DiCaprio is tortured and I don't care. Gibson does medieval action better than anyone else alive.
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where vikings didn't have cool little horns on their helmets.
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Dec 14, 2009 2:40:41 PM CST
...the Viking/Christianity thing is very interesting actually...
by flickapoo
...for a long time they co-existed and sort of overlapped and fused without all the dogma, drama, and stake burning that you had in other places.For example, Vikings would often wear little Thor hammer amulets around their necks...and when Christianity arrived they continued to do so figuring it could double as a cross. Better to cover your bases right?
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I know the man did Riggs, Max and Wallace, but he is an anti-semite, alki, piece of shit at heart.
Just let that sink in suger tits. Leo wont get any love from me either, but Mel is dead to me. -
...he is one HELL of a director. I despise his rabid anti-Semitism and ultra-orthodox/lunatic fringe Catholicism, but the man can direct the hell out of movies. Braveheart's great. Apocalypto is one of the most intense movies I've ever seen, and maybe the greatest chase movie I've ever seen. Love the art, hate the artist....
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he should've gone with Channing Tatum. He's what my grandfather referred to as a "big'un". Leo, while a fine actor, looks better suited to be a Viking towel boy rather than an actual Alpha Male rape-and-pillage Viking.
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I liked the choice of digital for Apocalypto because it was such an interesting contrast the period (i.e. using modern technology to tell that an ancient story). But yes I would prefer that he went the Braveheart route rather than fuck up like Mann did going digital with Public Enemies (which SUCKED).
Either way any true film fan should be excited about this news and hopefully it will allow people to embrace Gibson again as the virtuoso talent that he is. Now I'd like to see DiCaprio work with Verhoeven and Spike Lee. -
I wear my Thors hammer with pride :P
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and what have you done under drink and drug. mmmmhhhhh? If mel was sober when he said that shit. then all the hell in the world unto him. Fact of the matter was that he was drunk. It doesnt excuse his action but it sure as shit doesn't mean he was showing anyone anykinds of true colors. I'll get into the toth and nail in the real world when people bring this shit up. The man is in the program, he's clean up his act, and I've never once heard of him saying something like the stone cold sober.
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and what have you done under drink and drug. mmmmhhhhh? If Mel was sober when he said that shit- Then all the hell in the world unto him. Fact of the matter was that he was drunk. It doesnt excuse his actions, but it sure as shit doesn't mean we heard anykinds of true colors or truth spill from his lips. I'll get into the tooth and nail in the real world- when people bring this shit up. The man is in the program, he's clean up his act, and I've never once heard of him say something like that while stone cold sober.
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...to do a movie about you. When discussing the language issue for APOCALYPTO he said that he always wanted to do a Viking movie, but that to have a berserker run howling out of the fog, only to open his mouth and speak in English would be ridiculous and spoil the hot and heavy berserker mood...I wonder what his plans are for this one...
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I'm sure there are plenty of haters out there naysaying, but I'm sorry, even if Mel is a completely insane racist asshole...this is going to be fantastically brutal and epic. Monahan is fantastic, Gibson is one intense director, and I trust DiCaprio almost completely at this point. This is a trifecta of badass. Quad-fecta if you include the fact that its about Viking murdering everything in the world with their swords and cocks. The battles of Braveheart with the brutality and primalism of Apocalypto? Yes please.
Oh, and I think Monahan is trying his hand at directing with some British con-type film called London Boulevard, with Colin Farrel, Ray Winstone, and Keira Knightley. Looking forward to that as well. -
I mean, how Orthodox Catholic is this guy? He just divorced his wife and got his girlfriend pregnant. Last I saw, those were both big no-no's in my very Catholic family.
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They had better track him down and cast him in the lead role.
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"Pee Wee Herman: Father Figure"
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by Mel and leo in spiked hob nail boots..Mel will give us the gore and more....much more.
I gotta say Mel makes some bad ass and mostly historically accurate films.. Braveheart was exceptional as was Apocalypto.
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the "helmet horns" thing. The confusion stems from the fact that bronze age paintings/carvings from scandinavia do depict these, but they were probably only worn for ceremonial purposes. Of course the "Viking" era would be over a thousand years later, but that and the fact that some Norse gods (like Loki) were at times portrayed with horned helmets has helped lead to that common misconception. And yeah Leo is a bit girly, but I've got a feeling this will end up being incredible if it ever comes to fruition.
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Mel (directing vikings): Yes. Leo (as a viking): No. 2 out of 3 ain't bad, though.
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the vikings started it all...then the normans came, then the french and then british. vikings were savage. they cut apart anyone who got in their way. they cut a bloody path of destruction through every country in europe that they visited. After they left. the monks in kells decided to build round towers.
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After some initial invasions didn't most Vikings seek accommodation in the countries they invaded? Isn't that what the Danelaw was all about in England. They never had the numbers to really out and out conquer anyone.
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but, yeah, let's see what sort of character DiCaprio is playing... Having a hard time seeing him looking properly badass...
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...their reputation has grown with time. After killing, and raping, and burning, and drinking, and killing some more...they would usually settle down with a nice local girl and start farming or trading relatively quickly...
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Dec 14, 2009 3:09:16 PM CST
...and the lack of a proper impaling tradition kept Vikings...
by flickapoo
...from being all the badass they could be.
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Honestly, I already have little hope for this film with him playing a viking. Sure he's a good actor, but he still can't sell his tough-guy persona. Mel Gibson's gonna rock the shit though, that guy's a sick director now.
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...Saved Civilization?" Great book and yes, those monks did great honor to our people (I'm only half-Irish, but that's my good side).
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I understand your concern, but I gotta say that I don't share it. Just can't see anybody who'd film an entire movie in Aramaic and another in Mayan trying to "water down" a Viking tale (my phrase, not yours). In fact, though he did "Passion of the Christ," I can't say that I've seen a "Christian" influence to Mel's flicks, certainly not in a proselytizing-type sense in which the Vikings needed to "repent and be saved." Even "Passion" wasn't really a proselytizing kind of movie. Mel seems a very "sociological" kind of storyteller lately, interested in exploring other cultures without really judging them. Hell, I wouldn't mind a Viking flick told entirely in ancient Scandinavian that relates the journey of one Viking on a raiding party who kicks ass and takes name, but told in a completely realistic and faithful manner to the times. Gotta say, I trust him on this. He hasn't let me down yet.
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FUCKING PUSSIES, THEY WERE! DiCaprio should have no problem with this, then...
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(A Mel Gibson Production)
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Well he could go Old Norse to be really authentic, but a little Swedish, Norwegian, Danish would sound ok too, Icelandic is the closest language today to that of the Old Norse language used by the Vikingr.
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Seeing that Leo is interested Germanic culture and Monahan scripted Kingdom of Heaven, this is reason to hope. South Park said it best about Mel. Say what you want about him, but the son of a bitch knows story structure.
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...the good word of Impaling far and wide! The Vladback is eternal, bitches!!!
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and AICN is asleep behind the wheel, yet again. The Kraken is giving me a giant 5t1ff13
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...was burnt down twice by vikings (obviously, this happened a long time ago.)
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In place of "world's shittiest actor ever?" 'Cause if that's true, then Channing Tatum is, indeed, a "big'un." Probably the biggest "big'un" ever. I've seen rotting potatoes with greater acting promise. Seriously. Was cleaning out my pantry the other day, noticed a rotting potato, and thought - this guy would have been better in G.I. Joe.
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Dec 14, 2009 3:17:04 PM CST
...I'm half Norwegian and half Irish...does that make me...
by flickapoo
...my own bastard son? Or my own raping asshole Dad?
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for Christmas anymore?
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. . . as long as he's playing a retard.
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Hope you guys have a neighborhood watch these days.
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That's fucking classic...
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'nuf said.
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i am sure he would do a better job than Branagh
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Heh heh heh...
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He will top himself in the Viking movie, and we will just see a fountain of blood gushing with random human limbs for 90 minutes, followed by a close-up of Leo crying. Cut. Print.
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but Apocalypto was indeed amazing.Gibson is a great director,and i am sure he will get a director oscar again,unless the jewish loby hasnt forgiven him yet.
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if it's anything like BRAVEHEART or APOCOLYPTO. But it better not have horned helmets (historically inaccurate).
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Old English, Old Icelandic (Old Norse) and Latin. If you are looking for a creative consultant let me know.
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Dec 14, 2009 3:29:03 PM CST
IT'S LIKE THEY REACHED INTO MY DREAMS TO FIND THE PERFECT MOVIE
by bringingsexyback
Mel Gibson.
Leonardo DiCaprio.
Blood, guts and wenches.
Written by William Monahan.
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...I'll go on a (virtual) rampage.
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...it was about as historically accurate a Crusades movie as Pirates of the Caribbean was a pirates movie, and I assume a viking movie by the same guy will be the same way. Why is so tough for Hollywood to do history and make it real?
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Have we ever really had a good movie about the vikings?The only ones that comes to mind are maybe The 13th Warrior, or maybe Outlander... I guess Beowulf is really the only story that works for vikings.
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Long periods of hunting, farming, fishing and short lifespans due to tuberculosis and malnutrition with very brief periods of gory warfare sprinkled here and there to keep things mildly interesting. History makes for good PBS documentaries, but it's no good on the big screen. Heh heh heh...
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I agree! Also Clancy Brown, Brian Blessed, Ron Perlman, Sven-Ole Thorsen, Roland Kickinger, that mohawked guy from Mad Max 2....LET'S FUCKING DO THIS RIGHT!!!
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...I've been looking forward to checking it out.
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Make me a fookin Viking movie!
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...movie. The effects were weak, but the natural environments and lighting pulled me right in.The cast was pretty great too...
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...but the gory warfare parts can be pretty cool. Anytime there's one of those PBS docs on siege machines and that sort of thing, I tune in for sure.
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I don't really care too much about the events themselves. Writers of historical fiction play with history all the time. They change dates and characters and introduce motivations that may or may not have been there. Most of the time it makes for a better story with a real beginning, middle, and end. that is something that actual history rarely has. If they didn’t do that, we would only read history textbooks. Same goes for film, though I do agree that egregious historical errors annoy me quite a bit. Especially when the history is much cooler than the fiction. If this is as good as the Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut...we're in for a treat.
I haven’t yet seen the Director’s Cut of Kingdom of Heaven, though from what I hear, it is what that film should have been.
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I love that movie. Gerard Butler in at his most badassed. Sarah Polley as a horny witch. And Grendal portrayed as some sort of "last living neanderthal". Great flick.
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Two versions of the same sentence= *if this is as good as I've heard the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven is...we're in for a treat. There...fixed it.
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...the effects were "pretty weak", but they were very old school, so it ends up being mostly a plus I'd say...
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I think not.
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There's a difference. There are no BAD fx in that movie. There simply aren't any fx at all, other than the minimal makeup on Grendel and the lighting.
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Dec 14, 2009 3:54:04 PM CST
...yeah, "non existent" is probably a better way to put it...
by flickapoo
...long story short...I liked it. And if I remember the little making-of doc correctly, they mostly just used cameras, actors, and natural environments....looked great. Better than great.
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Dec 14, 2009 3:55:53 PM CST
So. . . . we're just ignoring the new
by danielplainviewonvacationinboston
Clash of the Titans trailer? Kraken should eat you people alive. Damn the Gods!
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Yes he made some comments he shouldn't have. But as a mixed race (black and white) Obama supporter who has had to listen to all the garbage coming out of Jon Voigt's mouth recently...That still doesn't change the fact that Voigt is an amazing actor in films like Heat, U-Turn and Deliverance. I judge artists by their work NOT who they are personally.
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Dec 14, 2009 4:05:53 PM CST
...my dad recently found himself in the position of having...
by flickapoo
...to give advice to a woman who's ex-husband was one of those extreme Catholics that doesn't believe in birth control...left her hanging with eight kids, etc...etc... Sad story.Anyway, I jokingly asked him if he ever called her "SUGAR TITS"...My dad didn't get the reference...it was awkward. I don't recommend it.
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(Although William Holden is fucking awesome too - with Denzel being my personal favorite modern actor) but Stewart was no friend to black people overall. And again that doesn't change the fact that he is a real hero for having served his country and he has given brilliant performances in some of the greatest films of all time. I'm sure ALL of us at one time or another has made disparaging comments about all kinds of people. None of us are perfect. And a world without Braveheart is a world I don't want to live in.
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the snuf flick bandwagon?
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Is he necessarily playing a Viking? Perhaps he plays the role of a monk or villager whose place is the victim of an attack. Might be more interesting.
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Not only is Mel Gibson a great actor but he's a great fucking director, a viking movie...Hell yes..bring it on
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http://tinyurl.com/ycdmx2w
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One man rode the way through the woods
Down to Asa bay
Where dragon ships had sailed to sea
More times than one could say
To see with own eyes the wonder
People told of from man to man
The God of all almightyness
Had arrived from a foreign land
The rumours told of a man
Who had come from the other side the seas
Carrying gold cross around neck in chain
And spoke in strange tongue of peace
He had come with strange men in armour
Dressed in purple shirts and lace
Smelling not of beer but flowers
And with no hair in face
And the bold man carrying cross
Had told all one of Asa bay
The God of all man woman child had come
To them all save
And to thank Lord of Heaven
One should build to God a house
And to save one's soul from Hell
One should be baptised and say vows
A man of pride with the Hammer told new God
To build his house on own
And spoke loud of the Gods of their fathers
Not too long time gone
The rumours said the man with a beard like fire
And the Hammer in chain
By men in armour silenced was and by
Their swords was slain
Those who did not pay the one coin
Of four to man of new God
Whipped was twenty and put in chains then locked
By their neck to the log (To the log...)
And so all of Asa bay did build
A house of the cross
Every hour of daylight they did sweat
Limbs ached because faith does cost
And on the day two hundred
There it stood white to the sky
The house of the God of the cross
Big enough to take two dragon ships inside
And all of Asa bay did watch
The wonder raise to the sky
Now must the God of the cross be pleased
And satisfied
Just outside the circle of the crowd
One old man did stand
He looked across the waters
And blotted the sun out of his eyes with one hand
And his old eyes could almost see
The dragon ships set sail
And his old ears could almost hear
Men of great numbers call out Oden's hail
And though he did know already
Though he turned face towards sky
And whispered silent words forgotten
Spoken only way up high
Now this house of a foreign God does stand
Now must they leave us alone
Still he heard from somewhere in the woods
Old crow of wisdom say
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Dec 14, 2009 4:19:27 PM CST
THE PROP BLOOD INDUSTRY JUST UPPED THEIR EARNINGS PROJECTIONS BY
by bringingsexyback
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But, the guy didn't ACT. He just showed up and read the lines! His performance is the same in every one of his movies!
I mean, I likes me a decent Jimmy Stewart movie from time to time. But I can't imagine calling him one of my favourite "actors".
Maybe one of my favourite "movie stars", but never one of my favourite "actors". -
... heh heh heh.
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... heh heh heh.
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...making few and pretty good movies after TITANIC. He was the biggest movie star in the world by a mile...girls in Uzbekistan had Leonardo DiCaprio nightlights to write in their pink bootleg DiCaprio diaries by for fuck's sake.Not many kids could have steered their way clear of that worldwide clusterfuck in one piece...
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Lol. Well played.
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If you can watch Jimmy Stewart in Its A Wonderful Life, Vertigo, Rope, Destry Rides Again and The Naked Spur and still tell me you don't think Stewart is an amazing actor and one of the greatest of all time then you're mad.
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Hee!
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Cuz I seen most o' dose flicks an' I still put him in the "Top Movie Stars of All Time" category and not the "Top Actors of All Time" category.
Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne, Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, Clark Gable, etc. Great movie stars, but always the same performance regardless of the role.
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Dec 14, 2009 4:44:24 PM CST
You know, if THAT'S the reason I'm committed to the nuthouse...
by royston lodge
...then psychiatry is truly in a poor state of affairs. I shoulda been locked away in a padded room long ago for so many other reasons.
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Paganism to Christianity wasn't really a peaceful transition but you're right that there was an overlap. You have King Olaf I and others killing those who wouldn't be baptized, there were several violent missionaries in Iceland (one or two were made outlaws and exiled), and one of the reasons Iceland became Christian was because the King of Norway was taking hostages and putting up trade restrictions until they did. But, like you said, there was some overlap in traditions - such as Christian runestones put up in Churches. Been waiting for a decent viking movie for a long time that's not just some caricature of their culture as just violent raiders. How about some depth?
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Look i was half kidding about the "mad" comment but seriously what is the difference between a movie star and a great actor?
And there are plenty of great actors who more or less play themselves to a agree but that doesn't make it bad acting. I love how transformational Gary Oldman is. He's my second fave after Denzel. But Jeff Bridges plays a lot of roles where you are definitely aware its Jeff Bridges but its till great acting. Because the simple fact is most actors can't connect to the roles they are playing well enough for them to see as effortless as those guys pull it off. -
She makes me feel it. Everytime.
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Dec 14, 2009 4:58:19 PM CST
I don't think a great performer is the same as a great actor.
by royston lodge
For me to move someone from the "great movie star" to the "great actor" category, then yeah I say they have to be transformational, as you put it.
Ralph Fiennes, Gary Oldman, Daniel Day-Lewis, William Holden, Richard Burton, Richard Widmark, etc. Denzel could be included too, especially if he does more outside-the-box stuff like Pelham 123 (I really really wish Denzel had been chosen to play Two-Face, but them's the breaks).
I enjoy watching a great movie star, cuz yur always assured of a great performance. But that ain't the same as "acting", IMHO.
And, for that matter, just cuz someone's a great actor doesn't mean I'll love every movie they're in. They might disappear into the role, but if the role's boring then who cares. On the other hand, a great movie star can make even a shit role fun to watch. -
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow! Hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new land. To fight the horde, sing and cry, "Valhalla, I am coming!".
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one of my rare nights off, i'm already baked and blaring glass's "Koyaanisqatsi" score, and I read about The Mel doing a Viking movie, and I start getting pumped up. then I read that the Phils just got Roy Halladay, and I fucking lose my shit. then I find out that they gave up Cliff Lee to get him, and am struck with bitter uneasiness. and now I'm back to the Mel. and its only 6 PM. aaaagh!
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Usually a tidbit about a movie that is going to be made sometime in the future and 'may' star or be made by so-and-so is hardly worth getting all excited over. But, alas, THIS just sounds friggin' amazing already! This may be the first movie that accurately portrays Viking culture and brutality - all with warpaint and bodily decorations and mutilations.
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Sweet.
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Dec 14, 2009 5:04:10 PM CST
Liam Neeson's "Release the Kraken!" line was pretty weak
by jackknifed_juggernaut
Bill Nighy/Davy Jones FTW.
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...I didn't mean to suggest that the transition was smooth and peaceful...just a little less fanatical than what went on in places like Spain. Things like "Christian runestones put up in Churches" are pretty unusual and interesting...
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Life. Is. Good.
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land. Victoria's Secret models couldn't raise strong young whelps.
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. . . tracts of land I've ever seen!"
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Sharper minds should get together and make this a Mad Max film to remember....with Gibson as Max!!!
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Let's hope.
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By Odin's beard...
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Gibson was born to make viking movies
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...and Leonardo DeCaprio? I think it worked well in apocalypto to use no-name actors...but I'm sure Gibson will make something special out of this. Looking forward to it.
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call their enemies "Sugar Tits"? Holla if you hear me Haters!
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the best movie about vikings.well not really.
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really bad-ass there as an airplane pilot.and if i am not mistaken he was in reality a combat flight pilot during the WW2,thats why his acting was so authentic in that movie.i havent seen the remake with denis quaid,is it any good?
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That is all.
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Speaking of Vikings. Great historical fiction about Brian Boru and uniting Ireland against the Vikings, written by Morgan Llewellyn. Just sayin'
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Cnut? Eric Bloodaxe?
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Lots of people can't separate the art from the artist when it comes to Mel Gibson being an anti-semite, but at the same time they have no problem with Roman Polanski raping a 13-year old girl and fleeing the country.
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hypocrisy from the humankind.
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Dec 14, 2009 5:51:07 PM CST
...if he managed to squeeze Lily Cole in there somewhere...
by flickapoo
...I wouldn't complain about it...
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Now THIS is the best news I've heard in months. This could be effing cool... if, of course, Leo can pull off being a bad-ass muthafucka with an axe... which I'm not sure he can. It's not an acting thing, it's a size thing. I feel as though this would be like casting David Hyde Pierce as a pro-football player.This is actually the role Dolph Lundgren was MADE BY ALMIGHTY GOD to play... except that, unfortunately, he can't act his way out of a paper bag... c'est la vie...
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to kill english people. He took great relish historically inaccurately killing us in Braveheart and The Patriot. I can hardly wait to see what we have supposedly done wrong to warrant the vikings invading, stealing land and killing innocent people. Thanks Mel, but we get it, you hate us.
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Dec 14, 2009 5:57:53 PM CST
"'Lo, there do I see my father. 'Lo, there do I see my mother..
by mr. nice gaius
"...and my sisters, and my brothers."Hell yeah, THE 13TH WARRIOR casting was spot on as was the character design. Whatever Gibson decides to do, I'm sure that it will be brutal as fuck. But when you're making a movie about Vikings, it's sort of a requirement.
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The Saxon Tales are some seriously badass books! I'd love to see a movie/mini-series about Uhtred and merry band of berserkers!
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Fantastic Film!Another good quote: "Do we have anything resembling a Plan?"Hey, MNG!
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He hasn't played those heartthrob teen tiger beat roles for over a decade (which was an undeserved rep. anyway, someone tell me how in the fuck The Basketball Diaries is supposed to be a teen heartthrob role?). He basically just plays psychos and hardasses now, and has been for the past 10 years. I think he's paid his "penance" since then.
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Good to see you, sir. Yeah, THE 13TH WARRIOR is definitely a film that grows on you. Some good stuff in there.
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I'm In! But really, how could it be?
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Hugely underrated film. My friends and I quote it incessantly. "Man, I'm loving my new apartment. Washer/dryer, two-bed, two bath, nice kitchen..." "Yeah, but...IS THERE A CAVE???"
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The man sure knows story structure!
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thats as ridiculous as Heath Ledger as the Joker.
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thats as ridiculous as Heath Ledger as the Joker.
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I am gonna hafta get out that 13th Warrior dvd. That, Princess Bride, and Jeremiah Johnson are three films that make me stop what I am doing and watch if they come up during channel surfing.
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Dec 14, 2009 6:31:47 PM CST
My mother was a pure woman from a noble family.
by danielplainviewonvacationinboston
And I, at least, know who my father is, you pig-eating son of a whore! God, I love the hell out of that movie.
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Dec 14, 2009 6:33:01 PM CST
It's all right, little brother... there are more!
by danielplainviewonvacationinboston
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kingdom of heaven's script kinda sucked, though.
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The band members from Immortal, Ha. And soundtrack by Dimmu Borgir.
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that Dicraprio was in it. I can't stand him as a person or an actor. I can't think of a single movie he's been in that didn't make me want to puke. It's a shame that Mel isn't starring in it. A Viking "Braveheart" would pwn your dicks!
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Dec 14, 2009 6:49:32 PM CST
Give an Arab a sword, he makes a knife.
by danielplainviewonvacationinboston
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Say what you want about 'Mad Mel' he makes some great movies.
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was already made by Terry Jones.
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Dec 14, 2009 7:22:10 PM CST
There's not too many problems in this world...
by lastofthev8interceptors
.. that more Viking movies won't solve. And say what you will about Mel, the guy makes really good flicks for the most part. Personally, I know that I've spouted off some pretty stupid booze fueled crap back in the day that I sure wish I didn't. Lucky for me, the media wasn't around to immortalize it!
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Too small for a Viking? Did anyone see him in Blood Diamond? He was ripped.
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is the SUPERSHADOW of AICN.
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Dec 14, 2009 7:46:14 PM CST
Get ready for the bloddiest movie ever
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Peter Jacksons Braindead(Dead Alive) will only be able to look on, sickened by what it sees as that wacky Gibbo brings his wrathfull vengeance back to the screen with a fury that would dwarf Satan.
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In 921, an Arab, Ibn Fadlan was sent by the Caliph of Bagdad to accompany an embassy to the King of the Bulgars of the Middle Volga. Ibn Fadlan wrote an account of his journeys with the embassy, called a Risala. During the course of his journey, Ibn Fadlan met a people called the Rus, a group of Swedish origin, acting as traders in the Bulgar capital. Ibn Fadlan tells us:
"I have seen the Rus as they came on their merchant journeys and encamped by the Volga. I have never seen more perfect physical specimens, tall as date palms, blonde and ruddy..."
European observers made similar observations. The Annals of Fulda record that, in 884, the Franks defeated a party of attacking Vikings in a battle in Saxony, mentioning their great size:
Quales numquam antea in gente Francorum visi fuissent, in pulchritudine videlicet ac proceritate corporum.
[In that battle such men are said to have been killed among the Northmen as had never been seen before among the Frankish people, namely in their beauty and the size of their bodies]. (Coupland, pp. 188-189)
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"Mel, there really weren't and Jews in..."
"Silence! Can we get Stiller for the bad guy? He's the Jewiest looking actor out there, yeah?" -
that money shot of the kraken in the clash trailer just single-handedly earned my $10 when that movie drops.
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Let's see it happen.
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Give me some milk, sugar tits! Seriously, this sounds pretty cool. Except for Leo as a Viking! With this and Thor, I guess we're getting our Norse fix...BTW, these HAS to be a character in here who's vehemently anti-viking and spews long, expletive-filled rants about Vikings while wearing one of those hats with the horns on it...
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Mel Gibson! Giant Robots!!! You know I'm there. You know you will be, too.
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"BTW, these HAS to be a character in here who's vehemently anti-viking and spews long, expletive-filled rants about Vikings while wearing one of those hats with the horns on it..." but they're wearing a big slice of foam rubber CHEESE and they go by the name of Mike Holmgren.
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JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews!!!! I hate em, I hate em, I HATE EM!!
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If you need a lawyer, a surgical procedure, or your taxes done, who you do you THINK you're gonna call? A fucking Methodist?? LOL
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Dec 14, 2009 8:45:32 PM CST
You're welcome for the Clash of the Titans
by danielplainviewonvacationinboston
trailer, guys. AICN apparently doesn't care to much about a badass new genre film coming out in March. Maybe when it's in "glorious quicktime hd".
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Dec 14, 2009 9:11:07 PM CST
thats what i'm mutha fucking talking about sugartits!!!
by peopleintrees
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that this will kick ass..
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Good luck to all involved.Oh, and Mel Gibson is Mad Max, George Miller, you idiot.
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Your name sucks, and your post was racist or anti-semitic.
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...yes! infinity to the infinite power. That is all.
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Fuck Avatar, I want to see this NOW!!!
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Dec 14, 2009 9:39:47 PM CST
OLIVER: So Eric tells me you like Viking films. Viking movies.
by lord haw haw
ZED: Yeah... I guess. OLIVER: I love that stuff. Those helmets with the fucking horns on!
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. . . you got a village to plunder".
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Seriously, I want to hear more about Jimmy Stewart. This viking crap can wait.
'no friend to Black people overall'? Swear to God, this is news to me. -
Giovani on Fallon.
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you people leave dicaprio alone. i would gladly break into his house and steal his girlfriend's panties because he's a talented, talented man. also, gibson hates all the right people. you people just don't know.
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I smell Voltron
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good lookin out. looks awesome. thought i finally caught me a glimpse of Calibos in there too.
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Except in this one when someone says "It's a lion!" it probasbly really is. :)
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Must be a trend.
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What a friggin awesome flick. Just brilliant.
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With PREDATORS as the aliens.
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the only band for this soundtrack is the mighty AMON AMARTH!
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Dec 14, 2009 11:55:15 PM CST
Passion of the Christ Historical? HAHAHA Jesus NEVER EXISTED!D
by spacezilla
Look there is more evidence that Alexander the Great actually existed then Jesus. There is no carpentry of his, artifacts, nothing. Everything written about him was written many MANY years after he supposedly existed. Passion of the Christ is as Historically Correct as Excalibur (which by the way is far superior to anything Gibson has made or ever will make).
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Please don't redo Beowulf.
Please don't redo Beowulf.
Please don't redo Beowulf. -
Jesus most definitely existed. It's been proven by so many people of different faiths and sciences that I won't even bother quoting sources. However, it's something I've studied a great deal. And Jesus, a HUMAN BEING, walked the earth. This is fact. However, I'm an atheist, and as such I will say that it's very much debatable that he did anything OTHER than walk the earth and preach a good message. Miracles, not so much to actually back that up. Son of an all powerful creator of all "God", ehh, not so likely. But Jesus did exist.
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MEN WERE FOR FUCKING, WOMEN WERE FOR BABIES! I READ IT. LOOK IT UP.
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educate me with some solid facts supporting that he did. So many say that he did but when you actually start trying to find out for yourself you eventually get to the meat and potatoes sites. There is no evidence. Its one of the greatest tricks they have pulled. That unlike Buddha, the god of abraham, and fucking Santa Claus, Jesus actually did live. Show me the money dude, oh and good luck.
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VIKINGS SMOKED EACH OTHERS SHIT DICKS!
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Thats the period and the conflict they need to be focusing on. The Irish were led by the High King Brian Boru. The Norse invaders swept in and damn near seized the entire country but Boru united the Irish and scored significant victories against the Vikings. Supposedly there was a Boru movie in the works but I don't know what its status is. Regardless, this is a rich period in history. Might be a bit too similar to Braveheart tho.
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By your reasoning all of Roman history is not to be believed. Actually, all of written history, "because their is no proof". Your assertion is laughable. Jesus was crucified by Pontius Pilate. The historical Jesus and the religious "Jesus" are not one and the same. So, since we are actually on the same side and I've known more people like you than I could ever name, how about you providing me with some proof of your "Jesus myth". You can't. It's simply something you believe. Sound familiar?
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In the morning, while I drink my coffe, I am 'John Patrick Wilson' on Roger Ebert's blog, writing eloquently like I'm some kind of intellectual. At night after a few beers I come on here and become 'dick masturbates itself' and talk about viking fucking and eating shit. ah, life.
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Actually, I have a library of books relating to religion, philosophy and the study or both. But since you want "sites", many of the books I'm referring to are used as the sources for this article. Enjoy.
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No Mel = No Max.
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And here http://tinyurl.com/ydr3phs lol
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the bible. That's it. That is all you have to support your case. Fine let's do this
Jesus was a very popular name then.
-There is a bust of Alexander (330 BC statue by Lysippus).
-A silver coin of Alexander (323 BCE) that is in the British museum.
-also in the British museum there is and Astronomical diary from the year 323-322 BC that records Alexanders death.
-There is the coins, by Ptolemy, depicting the beginning of his reign and of Alexander riding a chariot drawn by elephants, showing his success in India.
-The Hellenistic world view of him. The ancient world map of Eratosthenes, incorporating information from Alexander's campaigns.
There isn't any records of physical evidence to support a historical Jesus. No artifacts or works of carpentry or any self written manuscripts. No Roman records. All documents about Jesus got written well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either unknown authors, people who never met him, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings.
The dead see scrolls were written 150 BC and there is no mention of Jesus.
So it brings us back to the bible. The new Testament, whose very own story of Jesus is almost exactly how earlier gods origins were written.
But I know, this is about whether or not Jesus actually lived. You do make some valid points. So does this:
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/jesus_myth_history.htm
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Is that short for the Norse?
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Prefer the Celts to Vikings. They were the ones with the horned helmets.
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Dicaprio wanted to play Brian Boru. who was Irelands last ever king. I have had a very uneasy feeling about that. A big name star mucking about with irish history. Disney tried to get the children of lir movie off the ground. but they couldnt. it cant be done. but god help me, with CGI?. again your playing with an irish legend. it will just come across as Oirish americanised fooder.
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And read what a multitude of ACTUAL scholars believe to the the truth? Jesus, the man, lived. The validity of the myth surrounding the man is quite a different argument.
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I had no idea. Actually thought he was a short guy.
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You're just FACTUALLY incorrect. You need to do some more reading and studying with an open mind instead of just being against whatever the man may have represented. There is in fact WRITTEN Roman and Jewish histories, as well as other gospels and ancient texts from well before 150 BC, that contain information pertaining to the same MAN, named Jesus, who is written about in the Bible. I've seen the same documentary you've seen. I've read the same sensationalist websites. But the simple fact of the matter is that if you do some real studying the truth is not so black and white. As with most things that divide people so strongly, the real truth lies someplace in the middle. Is Mel's "Passion" based in fact? No. Did a man named Jesus, upon whom Christianity is based, live during that time? Yes. He did. The RELIGION was created later. But the MAN existed.
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...please return to your regularly scheduled raping and pillaging.
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why'd he have a Puerto Rican name?
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About 5 million Irish emigrated to the U.S. in the 1800's, which is close to the current population of Ireland. There's a lot of Irish in us, and elsewhere.
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"I'd say that's a pretty fair bargain."
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No excitement here. If Gibson is involved it will be wildly historically innaccurate, contain casual anti-English sentiments and find some way of shoe-horning in a few digs at the Jewish. All this from a fucking Aussie!
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Hail Ragnar!
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Say what you want about Mel, but the dude has one hell of a good track record. When all is said and done, I believe he'll go down as one of the all time great directors. That is if he can keep his faith (and racist sentiments) out of it that is...
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superb! i'm there.
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i'm beyond reproach..
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Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you, bitches! luke 10:19
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So the uber-catholic anti-semitic Gibson will tackle a Viking picture next, eh? This should be interesting. But will it be as epic as the amazing 1969 cinematic Viking masterpiece "Alfred the Great"? ;)
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I'm sorry but that was one of the most laughably bad films I've seen. If the entire Jackass style beginning didn't make you lose faith in the film then the panther that looked like a rag doll should have done the job. There's a decent chase scene in there, but anyone who has one iota of knowledge about pre-Columbia America can't take that thing seriously. Mel can shoot an action scene, but that's just about it.
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The man took this team to glory.Vikings VS Colts In The Superbowl.This sounds bad ass.two mega talents working on a great subject.How Fucking Lucky Is William Monohan?
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The Saga of Eric the Red... or how bout Vinland, Saga of the Greenlanders, SAGA, The Saga of Leif Erickson, Land of the Ice and Snow, Land of the Midnight Sun, Black Sun, White Night (pun intended), Polar Night, or how bout to dovetail nicely with Apocalypto... RAGNAROK!
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rated R of course. And direct a Predator movie while you're at it. Enough of historical shit. Do some sci-fi and comic book shit.
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14-year old daughter Erica. He has the right frame and pretty face.
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and losing in the NFC championship game. So actually he will have time to film a cameo. Should have a Viking dressed in a Packer jersey hack his arm off. Finally...revenge for the Packer fans...
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to Jesus was written around 50 A.D but it was written by Josephus, a respected historian; which is why most scholars accept his existence as fact. He simply notes that he was executed. Still a good 17 years or so after his death though. Outside of the book of Mark and Paul's letters, every other "source" is close to a century later.
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and why they dont do the 24 box. not sure. everything comes in bags these days.
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He knows nothing about history anyway. He might as well move on to making dumb but well shot action films.
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which features st lukes gospel has been discredited. no such took census place.
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Keep em coming Mel!
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The "slaughter of the innocents" by Herod, the governor "Jairus" (who ruled decades later) and even the role of the pharisees at that time have all been shown to be historical inaccuracies.
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Everyone knows that its a book of edited fairytales, morality tales etc for the time, just something like Aesop's fables, no one is that stupid to believes in it literally
huh people do ?, ... just a few I assume.
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wasn't he going to do something about that gang Hunter Thompson stayed with?
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Mel and Leonardo. Monahan and King. Vikings? I mean, for what we know now, it sounds amazing. Wonderful. All these talented people want to tell this story - that's all I need to know. The making-of for this film is going to be amazing too I bet. I know! Can't wait for the title.
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CharyouTree, hi. Once he shaved off his beard, I think that's when they shelved the movie. It was going to be about Billy Queen and the time he spent undercover. I know, everything seemed to really be coming together for a while there. Mel was growing out his beard and all, the screenplay is done I think. But, I don't know. Something happened. Looks like Mel is going to be really busy, which I'm happy about for sure. But yeah, maybe the Mongols MC movie will turn up again (with Mel?).
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Leo is 5'11", for those saying he's too short, and can easily get big (see Departed and Blood Diamond). The curse (or blessing) with Leo is that he looks forever young (can't tell if it's the face or the voice). At least when he's 50 he'll finally look 30. Great actor, just not sure about a viking. Maybe Steve Rogers though (after 6 mos in the gym).
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aaa The Mongols thats who it was yea, and I remember pics of him where he had the beard and everything, was looking forward to that movie. Damn.
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All those who chose to oppose his viking horns must yield.
If he’s led to a fight and a duel is due,
Luckily for him he has a stunt man in his crew
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Most overrated writer right now (three movies, two remakes, one of them being the most overrated of the decade).
Leonardo as a viking? Fuck that twat! I'll wait for Mads Mikkelsen in Nicolas Winding Refn's Valhalla Rising! -
I have never called a cop suger tits. And blamed the jews for global war.
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Now all i ask is for Gibson to not go as lose with REAL HISTORY as he did with the good but over-rated Braveheart. If you are going to make an historical movie that is full of fictional stuf,f might as well make one that is totally fictional, like Apocalypto. On those, Gibson shines. I might be in a tiny minority here but i think Apocalypto is a better movie then Braveheart. And i still like Braveheart.
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Leonardo hasn't done anything worth seeing since Titanic, and Gibson has been laying low ever since he went on that drunk tirade. But I love Mel's movies, and Leonardo just needs to get into a good movie again because he's a great actor. This could be big. I'm looking forward to it. Another Mel Gibson period epic is good news to me.
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... itr washes away the bad taste left by the other viking movie made recently, that horrible piece of shit called Pathfinder. At least this time they actually have a proper talented filmmaker to direct it. And whatever faul people might find at Gibson as a director, he's very good directing actors to very good performance. And even on a Viking ass kicker movie, good acting is still necessary.
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is the following. Then then king of roman empire was Caeser Agustus. Like all roman rulers, he was a vain man. When he heard that there was this indvidual called Jesus the king of the jews, he was not best pleased. He summoned Herod to rome and demanded to know what was going. Herod was reminded who the real king of the jews and that Herod was only a mere foot soldier and could be replaced. at any time. Historians know now that Pontius pilot was leaned on By Caeser Agustus. Jesus was murdered on the orders of Caeser Agustus. His trial was effectively the first ever documented show trial.
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Mel Gibson goes berserk: directing a viking movie next. And the berserk coment would be apt, since it was the vikings who created the word berserk, to describe their most fearless, fanatical warriors.
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Dude, like, you believe that nonsense that when Baby Jesus was born, the empropr of the biggest empire known to mankind back then trembled at his feet? You got to be fucking kidding!! And dude, the emperor who was in charge when Jesus supposedly died was Tiberius, not Augustus.And yes, there is absolutly no proof that Jesus ever existed, and his "Hero Jorney" life story makes him very likely that Jesus is in faxct a composite of different real and imaginary people mixed together to create a central figure for the emerging new faith of the time. So, basically, the Jesus as Jesus the good bet is that didn't existed. There's no evidence and no proof he ever existed, other then the tenets of a faith. And that's no proof, just just something accepted blindly. So there. And again, the roman emperor of the supposed time when Jesus supposedly lived was Tiberius. And don't come to me saying "but his real whole name was "Tiberius Julius Caesar Augustus". Sure, that was his ADOPTED NAME, his birth name was "Tiberius Claudius Nero", and he's known in history as Tiberius. So there.
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Would be a cool choice for a soundtrack a long with some otehr Viking style metal bands, such as Enslaved, Amon Amarth, etc...but ti am sure they will go with a classical score. I am Scottish with some Irish on me fathers side, took my mothers last name as they never married, i am a Macleod and the Macleods are descendants of Olaf the Black the Norse king of man.
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there are no records of any trial involving Jesus. His trial is not the first ever recorded in history. There are no records. And no, the Bible doesn't count. The earliest judicial records in history date to the Assyrian Empire, at least a thousand years before Jesus supposedly lived.
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I fucking hope they go with a classical score for the movie. Heavy metal in period movies is retard. There's a place for everything and heavy metal doesn't belong to period movies.
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You say some Scholars believe that Jesus existed. Okay. Some Scientists who understand that the Universe was most likely created by the "Big Bang" are also Christian. You know the Bible was mistranslated many many times. Just recently it was discovered that the first thing in the book "God created the heaven and the earth" was also a mistranslation. But, if you are a good Christian you probably just pretend that isn't a truth and that god must have created the "heaven."
Man, again, you say there is the real truth out there that proves the historical Jesus existence but again you fail to name a fact. You say scrolls... which one? Romans have documentation that originated at the time of his supposed life? Really? Educate me.
This is always how it goes. Someone says that there is info out there that I have to somehow discover for myself, like I am some kind of Tomb Raider, and can NEVER actually give me a shred of actually proof. Give it to me man. Give me one piece of Proof. I gave you some evidence supporting Alexander the great (Who lived many MANY years before the historical Jesus supposedly did), actually existed and was real.
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Dec 15, 2009 1:50:18 PM CST
I think Fuck Your Yankee Blue Jeans should do the score.
by royston lodge
"My love for you is ticking clock, Berserker!"
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Di Caprio has been linked with the brian Boru story for years, and how he battled the Vikings in ireland?
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one of the best articles was written by the dad of someone I went to school called Peter Derossa. I went to School with his son Daniel. When I finished reading this article, it all made sense. really what the bible is is a very edited biography/ autobiography. Last year Channel 4 made a series of very interesting documentaries about christianity. Program no one was called jesus the jew and was presented by Howard Jacobsen. there is new historical evidence which suggests that jesus was jewish and that he was brought up along judae christian lines. The original bible was a jewish text. Paul was a follower of jesus. Then something happened. what happened no one is quite sure. Paul converted to christianity. he would later become the first pope. He ordered that bible be rewritten. and all of the jewish text be removed. so the bible became a christian text. that has been a long war at the heart of the catholic church and that according to many jewish people the catholic church is an antisemetic organisation. during world war two. The jewish quarter in rome was bombed , several times and to this day no one knows how many jewish people were killed. they even excuted jewish people by hanging them as a warning to other jewish people. this is what happens if you are a jew in italy and you break the law. It took twenty years of the church to apologize for the the bombing of jews ghettos in world war two. and still to this day they hide behind prayer.
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Dec 15, 2009 2:36:35 PM CST
No need to tell him about the bats. He'll see them soon enough.
by royston lodge
...the poor bastard.
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You are telling me that for you the notion of Jesus being a jew is a new thing for you?ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????If Jesus actually existed, what the fuck you would think he would be? Chinese? Japanese? Dude, Jesus, if existed, was born in JUDEA. What would that make him? A JEW!! JESUS WAS JEW. There! How in the fuck could this be new knowledge? It's in the fucking Bible, for christ's sake!!Am I supposed to understand that there are people who thinks that Jesus wasn't jew, is that it? What kind of retarded moron would think that?Another history lesson to you: the roamnsalso called cruxifiction as hanging. Why? Becasue when you are cruxified, you are left hanging on a cross, not by a loose on your neck, but caught by the wrists and ankles.Another piece of history for you: cruxifiction by nailing was pretty rare. Iron was in short suply back the, it was expensive, So, most people who were cruxified were TIED to the cross, not nailed. It deisn't matter, because the end effect would be the same. Becasue what kills you when you are cruxified is not the nailing, and it's not even the exposure to thesun and the elements. It's the position you are put on the cross, which causes a slow, very painful asphixiation. You die because you cannot pump air to the lungs anymore. That's how you die at the cross.And it was not the romans who invented cruxification, it was the persians. The romans just imported the methode. And the romans only aplied it to the type of crime they considered the most grave and important: sedition.
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Dec 15, 2009 2:52:15 PM CST
But at least the Catholic Church denies the existence of Hell
by asimovlives
while the protestant fundies still terrorise their children with visions of Hell adn eternal damnation and punishement if they don't kiss Jesus' Ass 24 hours a day. If you ask me, it's not the Catholic Church who are the barbarians in here. And i don't evne like the Chruch much, but fuck, some protestant fundies are way way fucking worst then the worst the church could pull off.
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In that case, DiCaprio can play BOTH SIDES.The funny thing is that despiste his italian name, DiCaprio is half-german from his father side and full german from his mother side, which means ethnically he's pretty good choice to play a Viking. Far more then to play a celt.
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in the vatican. the catholic church is at pains to point out the christian message of Jesus. the whole point of the that documentary is how the catholic church the one founded by St Paul, who became is utterly anti-semitic. This is where the stuff abut the pope during world war two comes from and the vatican has strenously denied that the pope during world war two was an anti´semite
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is even more pointless than doing it in real life. Smoke a bowl and chill out. The religious people are happy worshiping their gods. Just ignore them.
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Sounds good to me. Braveheart and Apocalypto were great historical epics with penty-o-action and some nicely done decapitations.
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by engaging, rape, sexual abuse, perverting the course, murder(thats right), concealment, the mis-education of thousands of children in their care, imprisonment in industrial schools, orphanages and reformatory schools. The sister s were equally bad if not worse, for whole generations of women, some them were locked indefinitely. Ireland was for many decades a theocratic state. read the reports from the ryan commission and the murphy commission. the Murphy commssion has had its inquiry extended to cover. what has been revealed in these reports is a country which was under a special kind of dictatorship. While Ireland was neutral during world war two. the horrors that are revealed in these reports were kept hidden from the outside world. and yet the industrial schools were run along military lines.
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Save us from the rage of the northmen, dear god.
Inscription above several Monk monsataries.
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From the fury of the Northmen deliver us, O Lord."
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True to a point, just depend on what kind of period piece you are going for, something like this, then ya classical score all the way, but if it was a more action oriented not so serious more modernized kinda take then Metal would work just fine :P
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Dec 15, 2009 6:23:41 PM CST
Why can't Gibson direct DiCaprio as a Minnesota Viking?
by mrmysteryguest
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Dec 15, 2009 7:42:05 PM CST
Saying that Leo is too small to play a Viking is retarded.
by dailysportspages
Vikings were not half giants like those in your RPG's.
Most people back then were short, Romans were generally under 5'5.
Leo is big enough to play a Viking.
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Look, I don't know what you're expecting me to pull from the ether. I don't currently possess any Polaroids of Jesus - I'll check ebay for them later. If I had known we'd be needing to run a DNA test I would have asked the maid to grab some hair from his brush. As far as I know, nobody thought to keep the receipt for the loaves and fishes.I would ask you again to go to this Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/ykxh4ku Once there, actually read everything that is written. Follow some of the links that apply to your questions and read those pages, too. Follow links to the authors, scholars and historians pages and read how respected they and their colleagues were and are. Understand that these people are from vastly different parts of the world, have different cultural backgrounds, different lifestyles and are largely NOT Christians. Yet, they still believe that Jesus lived, had earthly parents and a bunch of brothers and sisters. As the article says, "the historicity of Jesus is accepted by almost all Biblical scholars and classical historians". There are only a handful of fringe theorists who have tried to push the Jesus myth. In closing, I will say that this is what I believe. Most scholars and historians believe the same. But if YOU believe otherwise, more power to you. Belief is personal and, in my book, deserves to be respected. Much like arguing faith with the converted, if that's what you believe to be the truth, then it's going to be nearly impossible to make you think otherwise. Because there just isn't any CSI evidence to the contrary. I've appreciated the discussion, though. Makes me wish more of us would frequent The Zone so we could continue some of these conversations.
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Because that will give him complete freedom to go wherever he wants with it. Gotta love that Passion money!
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I mean, c'mon, Wagner with that page wig was the shit! And Victor McLaglen as Voltar was awesome. James Mason was an awesome Black Knight, and Janet Leigh and Debra Paget were delicious to look at. Franz Waxman's score is one of his best. It even has the Christian angle that Mel loves(and that I happen to agree with him on, except for the anti-semitism crap). In one scene, Wagner as Valiant screams "you'll burn in hell!" to the pagan Vikings he's fighting(and they are some brutal bastards).
Mel needs to use Henry Hathaway's PRINCE VALIANT as his template for his viking movie. Heck, DiCaprio's face was made for a pageboy wig.
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History and tradition are unaminious in identifying Peter as the first leader of the Apostles(later called the Pope,ie, Papa). Paul didn't rewrite anything, the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in the caves of Qumran in 1948 and they contain the entire Old Testament. The text is substantially the same as later versions, such as the Latin Vulgate and(in English) the King James and the Douay-Rheims. There was no tampering with the texts, the Old Testament in both rabbinic Jewish and Christian communities is essentially the same.
As for Jesus being mythological, there are some fringe scholars who hold this view and write sensationalistic books every few years that make a few bucks, but nearly all reputable scholars believe that Jesus of Nazareth existed. The crux of the matter is whether he was the Son of God or just a philosopher. I contend that He was the Son of God and our redeemer. I believe that the evidence for this is substantial(though faith isn't something that comes easy, I'll admit that).
That's all I'm contributing to any theology here. I need to go watch Mark Pillow turn Superman into an icicle again.
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I will read the wiki page. I will. WHen I said proof I really mean evidence. As I pointed out with my example of Alexander, is that there are historical figures that existed far earlier than Jesus supposedly did, that have many different pieces of evidence that point to their existence. You have to accept that. There is no evidence supporting that this Jesus of Nazareth actually lived. There is a lot of evidence to support the Big Bang. When there is no evidence you either have to have faith that it is real or you do not. I find it a little odd that someone who claims to not believe that there is a god yet has faith that Jesus really lived. Because there is no evidence to support either one of them. Having said that, I will read the page you are linking to.
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Dec 16, 2009 12:14:43 AM CST
"the historicity of Jesus is accepted by almost all Biblical sch
by spacezilla
This is almost like that line from Usual Suspects but, its meaning is reversed. Like maybe the greatest trick the creators of Christianity ever played was convincing the world that Jesus existed. Why is there evidence of great historical figures far dating Jesus but not one piece of evidence to support Jesus himself? I hope your wiki page provides the answer to this.
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...as an example. Which I thought was interesting since you'd already brought him up.
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...when it has clear meaning is exactly my point. You're going to believe what you want to believe, and I'm not trying to change that. Rock on wit' it. But by "the creators of Christianity" you mean four guys who wrote said works at different times in different places, right? Look, again, I'm an atheist. So it's no skin off my nose. But I came to that conclusion after a great many years (like 25 of them) of study.
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...of Christianity. My point is that it's vast and lengthy. Spread out amongst peoples, geography and time.
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Dec 16, 2009 1:08:02 AM CST
Did someone just say that most bible scholars believe in Jesus b
by dailysportspages
Thats like saying most black people believe Popeyes chicken is tasty.
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was technically based on real people and real events.. Balien of Ibelin held off the Saladin and his army for 3 days before successfully negotiating the surrender of Jerusalem and it's inhabitants. As for the details, who knows, but it was true to the spirit of history.
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i love it!
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The average height of men found in sweden in the 11th centruy according to skeleteons was around 176cm. That's alot taller than the swedes in the 19th and 18th century, probably because the diet was more meat based during the viking age. Acctually 176cm is the average height of americans today!
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Reference to Jesus is the reason most historians/scholars take his existence as fact. And contrary to the belief of some, most bible scholars are not fundamentalists, some are even agnostic! I posted earlier that it was 50 A.D, but it was actually closer to 90 A.D , so it is possible that he may have simply gotten his info from Christians or from the gospel of Mark, which was already in existence by then.
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the more question you ask yourself. like how does a man who gets crucified. gets buried in a stone tomb in a cave which in sealed by a giant. up and vanish.
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Not to mention they have an intimate knowledge of biblical languages and near-eastern mythology. They know how derivative of pagan culture Christian mythology is, and they can spot historical inaccuracies better than anyone. Biblical scholars are actually the originators of modern-day skepticism and high-criticism as we know it today. I don't know what "Mr. Popeye's chicken" guy up there is talking about.
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I didn't say most "bible scholars". I said most scholars. Historians, archeologists, etcetera etcetera etcetera. The Babylonian Talmud acknowledges the existence of Jesus. Josephus acknowledges the existence of Jesus. Tacitus acknowledges the existence of Jesus. Mara Bar-Serapion acknowledges the existence of Jesus(calling him the Jewish people's "Wise King", though he ascribes no divinity to him). Pliny the Younger acknowledges the existence of Jesus.
The question isn't: Did Jesus exist? It really should be: who was He? Now I have to go and stop talking religion. I need to go watch John Lithgow floating into space over the earth like Christopher Reeve at the end of Superman while Dudley Moore triumphs. Really. -
Cuz, ya know, I like vikings, 'n stuff.
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Jesus, reading some of the comments above is like reading some of the comments from the idiot religious fundamentalists in the Belfast Telegraph or listening to the creationists in the DUP.
Anyway, I do believe that is was nearly 2 years ago that DiCaprio was loosely linked to a Brian Boru film.
Looking at this news it would make sense that Brian Boru would be the subject matter of the film.
The film would have vikings (getting their asses kicked by the Irish mind you).
Mel Gibson could easily make a film about Brian Boru in much the same vein as Braveheart.
DiCaprio is no stranger to playing an Irishman and there is also another obvious Irish connection with with Monahan.
There is a well of storytelling to draw from in Ireland with the likes of Brian Boru, Fionn MacCumhaill, Cuchulainn, etc.
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really. the bloke who directed SuperGirl and Jaws 3d?. hahahahahahahaha
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"The examination of skeletons from different localities in Scandinavia reveals that the average height of the Vikings was a little less than that of today: men were about 5 ft 7-3/4 in. tall and women 5 ft 2-1/2 in. The most extensive recent anthropological study was carried out in Denmark, but the situation must have been similar elsewhere. Skeletons of people as tall as 6 ft 1/2 in. have been found, and those in richly furnished Viking graves - belonging to high- ranking people - were on average considerably taller than those in the more ordinary graves, undoubtedly because of better living conditions. A double grave on Langeland in Denmark contained two adult males, typically, the smaller one had been decapitated, and had probably had his hands tied behind his back, while the other was interred with his spear in the normal fashion - obviously a case of a slave (measuring 5 ft 7-1/4 in.) who had to accompany his master (5 ft 9-3/4 in.) in death. However, the skeleton found in Jelling church, thought to be that of King Gorm of Denmark (later known as Gorm the Old), was only of average height. This man was 5 ft 7-3/4 in. tall, with heavy, robust features, but not heavily built." (Else Roesdahl, The Vikings, p. 31).
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meaning there won't be:horned helmets and other pop culture shit...
http://www.vincenttraina.com/apps/blog/show/1481229-top-10-misconceptions-about-the-vikings
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