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Much Mark reports from the DOGMA premiere!
Hey folks, Harry here... Just back from EATING RAOUL... does that movie friggin rule or what? Well... Here's an 'oh too brief' report on the big DOGMA tadu, up at the Toronto Film Festival. Hopefully, ol Anton Sirius got into it as well as many others. But for now... We have just this one report from someone that just didn't have a whole lot of fun with it. Well... we've had more than enough screening reports from folks that dug the film, but there were a lot of Kevin Smith fans... of course, that describes me, and I could really care less if anyone besides me really likes it. Of course that is if it ever plays Austin. I've been keeping my fingers crossed for an Austin Film Festival screening... But it's looking like we'll be waiting for a bit longer amount of time.
Hey,
I just got back from the Dogma afterparty at the Toronto film fest. The film premiere was cool although only Kevin, Scott Mozier, and Jason Lee
were there...and Harvey Weinstein.
I'm a huge kevin smith fan but unfortunatelly this movie wasnt too great. It has some good moments and poignant dialogue, but those are often
shattered by Silent Bob and Jay who should never have been written in as major characters. They do nothing but ruin great dialogue with
completely innapropriate humour. The movie lost it's wit and sarcasm with the unhealthy dose of toilet humour. Chris Rock is great as the 13th
apostle, and Linda Fiorentino is a great angsty descendant of Jesus. I cannot say that I liked Matt and Ben as the avenging angels simply
because their pairing is an unneeded indie film inside joke.
While the film flip flops between toilet humour and much needed religious criticism, it loses it's direction.... until the end. Alanis plays god in a
fantastic scene that appears to be from the 'Dogma' that kevin wanted to make................... before getting tied down with the obligatory "Jersey
Trilogy" references.
I snuck in my digital cam to get some snaps for the net... here they are!
(Alanis Spoiler Warning)
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UNHEALTHY doses of toilet humour? Fantastic.. Bring it on!!
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That was my guess on the movie when I first read the script. The toilet humor is really going to bring it down from fans and critics alike. The Simpsons has been running for 10 years now and doing religious comedy and commentary and I don't recall them ever having to stoop to the level of using poop...unlike some OTHER popular cartoon series. Smith doesn't seem like he's that smart of a guy (well read kind of smart) to be writing a kind of movie like this, but his Catholic upbringing really gave him better input than a couple of other directors could have.
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Doesn't a trilogy mean three? Why does Kevin Smith strain to keep trilogy references in Dogma when the "TRILOGY" seems to be complete with Clerks, Mallrats, and Chasing Amy. I know that in the end credits for Clerks, it says that Jay and Silent Bob will be back next in Dogma (but, no need to keep your word this many movies and years later). The two characters are stale ...NEW JOKE NEEDED! They have run their course.
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i've read the script several times and it cannot, repeat cannot, suck. Period.
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Everything he talks about is stuff everyone already knows. His "review" says that Chris Rock is good as the 13th apostle. Thanks a lot, what keen insight into the detailed character development in the film. This jackass didn't see the movie. Snootchie Bootchie him across the room!!
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Umm... they've been best friends since forever and the majority of the general public now knows this... they won an oscar for writing a screenplay together.. so explain to me how pairing them together could possibly be an indie inside joke? That may have been the truth about 6 or 7 years ago, maybe around the time Dazed & Confused came out.... but as an indie inside joke, it sure wouldn't have been very funny. "Hey. They're best friends. Let's make them angel partners." ??? Yeah that's funny!
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He does his best work with a no money. Same for John "The Loser" Carpenter. Great in the beginning, but after "Starman", downhill all the way. Hope the comic store is doing well, Kevin.
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First of all for whoever the poster was who said Jay and Silent Bob made assess of themselves in Mallrats, to many they were funny, but even Kevin understood they were a little dumb, and thats why in the beginning of the scene they had of Chasing Amy, they addressed it saying, "they weren't slapsticky and all that shit" when referring to the bluntman and chronic comic book which was there "MallRats Personalities". So odds are they aren't going to be anythink like they were in MallRats, more like they were in Clerks and Chasing Amy....God I can't WAIT to see this film......
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Oh yeah, and for the uninformed gentlemen who posted above that after StarMan all all John Carpenter movies went downhill, need I remind you of Big Trouble in Little China? That has gotta be one of the coolest flicks of the eighties!!
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Oh yeah, and for the uninformed gentlemen who posted above that after StarMan all all John Carpenter movies went downhill, need I remind you of Big Trouble in Little China? That has gotta be one of the coolest flicks of the eighties!! TrainSpotter---------->gone
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I agree with you that Dogma is not a very successful film but I have to point out that virtually all the major laughs in the film come from the characters of Jay & Silent Bob. Take them out of the movie and you end up with a lot of long-winded speech making and often obvious satire. They effectively puncture the pretensions of the rest of the film as if Smith hasn't the courage or convictions to trust the rest of the material on it's own. Certainly the Toronto Film Festival audience weren't howling much at anything else. The film reminded me of one of those bloated all-star epics of the sixties that featured a major star cameo every ten minutes or so to help keep you awake and make you forget you're not very involved in the story.
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if only the fanboyz didn't wet on themselves and their sealed copies of x-men over smith's interesting, but not glorious skills. he can write sharp dialogue--minus the pop culture references (even if you have something clever about 'star wars'--it ain't a substitute for intellect or depth)--but smith's geekish desire to preserve the lilliputian idea of a 'jersey trilogy'...even woody allen never called his films a 'manhattan trilogy'....i'm curious about 'dogma' but smith needs to learn the art of 'tone'--jumping from jay/silent bob fart jokes to a spiritual insight into christ requires more skill thanhe's demonstrated. and all of you, 'mallrats' is an excreable film. horrifying. even smith apologized for it. so stop praising it. geeks deserve their rep for their inability to be objective about their false idols. 'mallrats'. ugh. awful.
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Ok, this is about Chasing Amy, not Dogma (which I can't wait to see). I rented Chasing Amy when it first came out on video & for the first 2/3's of the movie, I was thinking, ya know, this is a GREAT movie. I liked it because the characters were smart. As one of my friends put it: if this sort of thing were to happen in real life (a guy falling for a lesbian), it would probably happen something like this. It seemed real b/c it was smart. Then at the end, our hero comes up with a plan to resolve the 2 conflicts in the story...he can't deal with the lesbian's seedy past and his best friend hates her. His solution? They should all sleep together. What?! I actually threw something at the TV. It might have worked if the character was a half-wit, but he wasn't...he was a smart guy for the first 2/3's of the movie. I still wonder if anyone asked Kevin Smith during the making of the movie to explain the logic behind that solution. It bothers me so much b/c I can't even figure out the thought process involved there. Maybe it's a New Jersey thing...something in the water perhaps. On a completely unrelated note, I keep seeing previews for this Double Jeopardy movie. Hollywood apparently believes that if you kill (or try to kill) someone and get tried for it, you can't get tried for it again. Duh. That's not the law. That's not even arguably the law. It makes me sad.
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Homer Wells you have no idea what you are talking about concerning double jeopardy. Secondly, does anyone understand Chasing Amy? It's not about a true to form male relationship with a lesbian, but about a true to form love story. Arguably the film says more than any other modern day romantic movie. Certainly it
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Ok, sorry to the folks who want to talk about Dogma, but I have to respond to EricRS. It's a sickness of mine. ERIC: Actually, I do know what I'm talking about. Let's say you're so angry about Harry's Lake Placid review that you burn down AICN headquarters. You're convicted of arson & you spend three months in jail. Upon release, you take a taxi to AICN headquarters and burn down what's left of the building. You are tried and convicted again for what sounds like the same crime: arson of the same building. Double jeopardy doesn't bar that b/c the second crime involves a separate underlying "occurrence"...it took place 3 months later. The twist in the DJ movie is that the crime is murder. You shouldn't be able to kill the same person twice. So as Ashley Judd's lawyer, you argue that DJ bars the second trial b/c she's already been tried and convicted of the murder of her husband. The judge responds, "I don't think so, Sparky. This is a separate occurrence, ergo, not the same crime so DJ doesn't bar it. Now go back to law school, you silly ho." Another possibility: Judd's first conviction is vacated by the appellate court once it is discovered the hubby wasn't murdered the 1st time, leaving the state free to prosecute Judd. Either way, the bar against DJ doesn't save Judd. The premise of this movie really bugs me b/c people are going to buy it: this weird loophole in the law that doesn't really exist. I can suspend disbelief for big, fuzzy CGI monsters, but they aren't presented as fact.
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Okay, okay, this discussion has offically hit "ludicrous".
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Dogma and the Jersey trilogy are **COMEDIES**. They are not dramas or crappy movies for PBS. They are supposed to make you laugh, with or without pop culture references.
People laugh at pop culture references, so therefore Kevin Smith knows what he's doing when it comes to comedy.
Wanna see a serious Kevin Smith screenplay, with all that "deep" stuff you artsy types are complaing that Dogma lacks? Go read his script for "Superman Lives." That script, along with the writing he's done for "Daredevil" proves he can write deep, meaningful characters without those oh-so-evil pop culture references.
It's really, really disappointing how pretentious cinema fans have become, expecting everything that comes out to be "Welcome to the Dollhouse" or something. By the way I *hated* "Welcome to the Dollhouse".
And by the way, why did "Much Mike" even post this crappy article? Just to deride Kevin Smith? He could have been less specific only if he submitted something along the lines of:
"Dogma is a movie. The end."
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Dude, you are so wrong. Kev's not making a 'Clerks' sequal, he's doing a 'Clerks' animated series.
And to all the nay sayers:
What a buncha cock suckers you are! you think you can make a better movie huh? Bring it on then!...Didn't think so. -
He must be Canadian? What the hell is that supposed to mean? More good comes out of us than the cesspool below us.
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Here's the deal: Like, love, hate, or despise Kevin Smith you have to realize one thing. Studios suck. If you deride an intelligent movie because you don't like it's delivery/content. you are a hypocrite. Anyone who criticizes a man's work based on his past mistakes/triumphs (read Mallrats/Chasing Amy) without seeing it from an unbiased pint of view is a hypocrite. I'm willing to bet that all of you so-called "film buffs" praised Clerks and Smith for his wonderfully witty writing and simple and effective directing when it was a "groundbreaking indie flick", but when he "sells out" wiht Mallrats and calls his set of movies a trilogy (something many of us have done and he just picked up on) derides him: Shame on you. You are only helping the degeneracy of an industry that is fueled on ignorance in all aspects of story telling by criticizing independent film because it just isn't independent enough for you. Continue this hopless crusade of hypocrisy or else the enitre genre you hold so dear to your fickle hearts will dissappear, and we'll be forced to twiddle our thumbs waiting for good preproduction buzz for Wild Wild West 2. As for the trilogy being forgotten in 10 years by Hollywood, who cares? As long as fans still watch/enjoy the films they are never dead.
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Anyone who thinks that the "Superman Lives" script is any good needs to have a Starbucks triple-espresso colonic to clear their head. I'm a Smith fan and can't wait for "Dogma" since the writing in that script was a much-needed return to Smith's intellectual show-off form after the devastating, foul-smelling fiasco that was "Superman Lives." Lois getting into a fistfight with Luthor outside the TV studio? Luthor stumbling around like an idiot wearing an "I'm a Maniac for Brainiac" T-shirt?? Brainiac saying the phrase "the eradicator technology" or whatever every other line??? Not to mention Brainiac having the most annoying sidekick since Jon Cryer in "Superman 4." When did it become a law that Lex Luthor must now play the Otis role in all subsequent 'Superman' movies? Smith should have watched Paul Dini's 'Superman' series for pointers on the proper way to write a villain - that show's Lex Luthor is the DEFINITIVE interpretation of the character. Menacing, powerful, and just a bit too untouchable. "Stuporman Lives" read like a bad episode of the 'Robocop' TV show, written by one of those fanboys who like to hammer out fanfic scripts and then post the link on newsgroups saying he 'just got it off the set.' The dialogue was banal, the fights clunkily choreographed and uninspired, and no effort was made to make the audience care about any of the characters. The only one I had any feeling for was the suit. That being said, I think the script for 'Dogma' was brilliant, but I'm not sure how it will translate on screen. I think the audience will be confused as to whether it's a comedy, a drama, a horror movie, or a Deep Statement on Religion. Not many people cotton to a film that tries to be 'all of the above.'
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His only movie pic is from the trailer! He saw the trailer!
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Sep 12, 1999 8:01:03 PM CDT
Kevin Smith has always been about Dick and Fart Jokes.
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What the hell. From what he said, I want to see the movie even more. This punk obviously doesn't know what the genius of Kevin Smith is.
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Gee, I wonder where Carpenter got the idea for "Big Trouble"? Also, dig that lead singer on the soundtrack, yeah, baby! "Coolest film of the eighties?" Maybe an entertaining film, but not the coolest. I'll take Leigh Brackett's writing over Carpenter's any day which is funny because he was inspired by her and Howard Hawks' directing, which Carpenter has lost. Still, I like Kevin Smith's writing style. Maybe he and Carpenter should team up. Silent Bob and Jay go to Chinatown looking for the missing "Porkchop Express" and Jack.
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Pseudo-intellectual. I heard him speak about two years ago and he's really not that much different from Silent Bob . . . okay, I'll admit it--I liked "Clerks." But the reason that Kevin Smith is or was so praised is because he presents clever plays on cultural folklore (like Star Wars--right when all the kids who grew up watching Star Wars were 20-something) that hit enough on target to be new and amusing. Take that out and you have a suprisingly boring picture. To the poster above who said "Chasing Amy" was simply a love story . . . take the sex angle out of it and see if it retains its edge. That is, take Smith's ability to interpret MTV culture and make it sound unusually smart (often because the lines are delivered by dumbasses) out of any of his movies and what are you left with? An episode of "The Real World." He's John Hughes. His movies are cute and timely, but certainly not powerful or timeless. I don't want to see "Clerks" anymore. I don't think the "bathroom scene" is funny anymore and I can't take the horrible acting and directing. After a promising start, he could have gone one of two ways--and he went down. He's easy, he's fun and it makes everyone feel great to flaunt a 101-level knowledge of art and history and criticism. Maybe 102. But beyond that . . .
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ok i always thought you were all smith fans but i come to the site in the midst of my sunday night boredom and you are all trashing all of his movies! LISTEN TO ME.
dogma can not possibly have as many perverted dialogue or toilet jokes as clerks did. PERIOD. and i loved clerks, as a matter of fact. Mallrats- not as good as the other 2 but i like it anyway and it is NOT BECAUSE I AM STUPID AND I AM JUST SOME KEVIN SMITH FAN WHO LIKES ALL OF HIS FILMS UNCONDITIONALLY. It has good dialogue and i think Brodie was one of the funniest characters ever written. Chasing Amy, the best so far, had a great script AND good camera angles so shut the hell up. DOGMA (aside from girl interrupted and scream3) has been the most anticipated movie of the year for me and i am happy that you all hated it because i am not one to be too conventional anyway.
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Jay and Silent Bob will never get tired. They are my favorite onscreen duo EVER EXCEPT FOR MULDER AND SCULLY, and i think the toilet humor is what makes them so great. instead of evenly distributing it amongst all of the cast to say, they give it all to Jay, which is brilliant because those jokes without anyreal character can make the best character believe it or not.
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sorry bout that. anyhoo...here's my thoughts. the first time i saw chasing amy, i liked it; not a lot, but i liked it. but as fate would have it, i saw it a subsequent 4 or 5 times after that, and by the time the last showing came around, i was literally lying prone on the ground, hiding behind a row of seats, during the "big dramatic actors-playing-at-their-peak-for-10-minutes rain scene." same thing, to lesser degrees, with clerks and mallrats. what i'm saying is: good films on the first viewing, not all that great afterwards. that's why they won't last, and that's why the current crop of "fans" will be long departed in a few years. dogma is irritating because to the public's eye, as someone implied above, indie films are "pretentious" and unentertaining (yeah! like the haunting! bring on some more of those major studio efforts!). while i thought blair witch was fucking amazing, many of the indies that do get wide exposure are crap (anybody remember "brothers muldoon" or whatever that one was from a while back? jeez, what dumbshit whiteboy asshole gave that coverage?). people telling kevin smith that his movies are important, intelligent statments of life (um...er...in new jersey) only encourage him to make this kind of crap rather than the good comedies (without falling back on recurring characters) he's capable of. it's infuriating to see dogma get this type of coverage because it is shallow, banal, and unoriginal in its critiques and satires and can't hold a candle to the intelligent films that don't get seen (i.e., hal hartley's "the book of life"). someone tie kevin down and make him watch the rain scene from chasing amy about 200 times, then see what kind of movie he makes. bottom line: this is a movie that is coasting on, and generating buzz via, name-dropping star bullshit, a pseudo-controversial theme, and manufactured dissent. give me harmony korine anyday; no matter your views on his directing skills, at least he gives it to you straight rather than this "aw-shucks" bullshit ks is feeding us. fly on home, matt and ben. fly fly away.
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Ok, first off, to all the posters who continue to slam Kevin....KNOCK IT OFF! If your too fucking stupid to understand his work, then dont watch it and dont bitch. He is one of the most brilliant writers/directors to grace us with his work in a long, long time. And second, to all of you who say minus the pop culture refrences his films would be worthless, writer write about what they know. Like many of us, Kevin is just a big fanboy, we grew up on pop culture so comics, video games, and crappy B-movies are what we love, ESPECIALLY STAR WARS! So if you cant understand our sense of humor, and dont get why after 20 viewing of any of Kev's films the same jokes could possibly still be funny, then dont watch our damned movies, and if you do watch them, then for god sake dont bitch about hating them, because frankly, we dont give a shit. They are after all written for the fans, so if your not one, fuck off.
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Don't even try saying Dogma isn't all that! Smith knows how to make a good films, look at his three previous efforts and if you need further prove read his superb comics. I think there are more deserving directors out there that demand critism (De Bont, Harlin and that directing heavyweight Levant)
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This was bound to happen after hyping Dogma for so long, and I'm all for it. I love how the Smith fans, when backed into a corner, start trying to distract you by saying shit like "Why don't you pick on Brian Levant"? Yeah, get that guy that directed the Flinstones! There's a challenging target for our venom! Also fun to notice: They cry about censorship and free speech in regards to the Catholic League, then tell you to "knock it off" if you say anything bad about their bearded Buddha. They also like to tell you not to judge the movie if you haven't seen it, but it seems perfectly fine to PRAISE the film if you haven't seen it. Hmm - praise something you haven't seen . . . sounds like the Catholics!
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While - IMHO - Kevin Smith is a good (not great) sreenwriter, he *does* need some work on his camera placement. Listening to the Director of Photography a few times would be a good thing; Anyone who wants an example, let me give you one: In `Clerks', you can see the camera crew in the window when Jay and Silent Bob show up. It's quick, but noticable. It makes one wonder how many takes were actually done for each scene. Since it was of low budget, I would guess less than 3. Another example: In `Chasing Amy', in the `rain scene', as Allysa walks away persued by Holden, you can see the camera crew in yet another window in the background. This time though, it's a *lot* clearer. So much so you can make out 3 figures following them (on this film, I'm guessing they had more than 5 takes they could have done, so that blunder was inexcusable). I liked `Clerks', and some of the camera subtlties in it; Like the fact that it was shot in B&W to get that security camera feel, and handheld to express intensity (in `Chasing Amy'). His movies are enjoyable, and often times funny (the comic-con panel with Banky cracks me up every viewing), but I don't worship him as an `indie God'. Far from it. I simply view the films, and enjoy them. I don't take home any lessons in modern life, or morality. I don't ponder a new understanding of life, relationships or religion after watching them. Those that I do worship are along the lines of Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Kubrick, Speilberg. Writer/Directors who can say more in a scene with camera placement/movement than they could with dialogue (and yes, I know he has never said he was the greatest director, or ever compared his work to anyone elses, but he could learn a few things from the aforementioned directors - If he did, his movies would speak volumes with the right script (`Dogman', for example, would have been a brilliant choice to experiment with camera placement). And while I'll admit I didn't *completely* like `Superman Lives', he *is* capable of writing superheroes, and capturing their essence in their dialogue, or actions. Anyone who wants proof of this can pick up Smith's 8 issue run on `DareDevil'. It's the best writing DD has seen since Frank Miller. His handling of the character, and his use of emotional dialogue is fabulous. He is in top form in comics, or simply writing; And reading his interpretation of DD, and knowing he is a bigger fan of Superman than DD, one is able to surmise that he *can* write a better Superman if given half a chance. On `Superman Lives', he wasn't. He turned in his script, and Jon Peters told him to add many, many moronic things. Such as making L Ron `gay' because he had seen the gay black character in `Chasing Amy'. Peters suggested the polar bear fight at the Fortress of Solitude (But only after Peters suggested a fight with a couple of `Fortress guards', and Smith corrected him by telling him it's the `Fortress of solitude' for a reason). The `Maniac for Brainiac' shirt, and many others. His `crappy' interpretation of Lex Luthor? Jon Peters' doing. You can obviously tell he knows how to write villians properly, just read DD. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, and some probably won't, but please don't tell us to `shut the fuck up'. Every person that comes here has just as much right to post bashing/praising Smith as anyone else. If reading it bothers you, and you disagree with it, then post so intelligently. Try to keep from resorting to childish namecalling, country bashing, or telling someone to `shut the fuck up'; Telling people to `knock it off'. Yes, I do realize the irony in telling you to stop telling others to `shut up', so please don't bother pointing that out. I am a fan of Kevin Smith's films, and his writing, and that is all the more reason to criticize his work. One last thing, and this may be a guess, but I think this so-called `indie inside joke' *was* that Ben and Matt tried to show up in as many of each others movies together as possible. If that's the case, can someone explain the joke?
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Well, I for one don't like the look of Dogma from the trailer. Doesn't seem funny. Hopefully it's just a bad trailer. Kevin Smith's movies are refreshing and somewhat entertaining, but you can't take him too seriously. Some of the poster in this discussion are giving him way too much credit. The poster above mentioned that he writes COMEDIES. Well then, if that's so, what puts his comedies above any other pedestrian teen comedy? Nothing. So then don't make him out to be more than he's meant to. I do agree with another poster above: the Chasing Amy ending was contrived. It made me think he had a great idea and didn't know how to bring it to a conclusion.
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Ok..I assumed that there would be more people that saw Dogma on Saturday which is why my review was a bit short. The typical internet morons question if I saw it...Do I need to scan my friggin ticket autographed by Smith and Lee at the afterparty to prove it to you guys???? I sent Harry a pic of Alan Rickman and Alanis from the end but it wasnt posted.
Anyways.....to further my review. The film was not satirical enough...Whenever there would be a great monologue by Chris Rock about "Catholics mourning religion instead of celebrating it" Jay would come out with a really bad pussy joke (way beyond anything ever heard in a Smith film) and give the audience a cheap laugh. At the Q&A Smith seemed a bit pissed about having to include JAy and Bob saying he might leave them out of the next film because he "wants to grow up". Dogma was written 3 years ago and it seems like now Smith is regretting putting them in. There was no "Jay and Silent Bob will return in..."in the credits but apparently they are going to add something in next week.
For those that have read the script they've probobly got the 3rd draft. Smith filmed the 6th draft and apparently a lot has changed.
Hope this has cleared a few things up. I'm not going to comment on the film. I just wanted to give my opnion on why I was dissapointed. If you want reviews of character development wait until someone who has more time types up a review. Most of us torotonians are knee deep in the filmfest. (HArry...where are ya??) -
Actually, I've seen this scene once. You can find it over at the View Askew website in the `Clerks' section. As soon as I saw it, I thought "Now, why couldn't they have left that in?" It was great, the main character dies. After all the trouble he went through during the day he `wasn't supposed to be there', he ends up being killed. What would have made it even better, is if the killer had actually remained annonymous, instead of stepping into frame and revealing himself.
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First of all, isn't it pathetic and tragic that just because someone who happens to be a Canadian doesn't like the next lame-ass Kevin Smith movie, some posters instantly deride all Canadians, calling them retarded! You are only revealing your own ignorance and overwhelming simple-mindedness. Fart and pussy jokes are funny when you're 12, losers! I'm not going to bother defending my country to you, because, frankly, I don't want you here. Unfortunately, people like you are the reason why Americans are loathed all over the world, particlularly in Canada.
Second of all, for the person who made the comment that Canadians don't know anything about comedy, you must have your head up your ass. Have you ever heard of Jim Carrey and Mike Myers? Have you ever seen SCTV or Kids in the Hall?
Dipshit!
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Ok, you Fat Bastard, enough with the bagging on Blair Witch. What I 'm hearing is jealousy. These guys made that film on originality, guts, hard work, starvation, talent, and lunch money. God bless 'em. It was well marketed but the real genius was in how they pitched their project before it was ever made or one word was scripted.
"Sure some of us got conned by The Blair Witch Project, and they certainly made wads of cash. But that kind of swindle just ain't gonna happen no more.-Fat Bastard"
The forgoing, aside from the authors ignorance of double negatives, is patent ignorance. Stop complaining that the roller coaster didn't go off the track. It was a thrillride. Yo pays yo money and yo takes yo chances, big guy. Now you're pissed because you ate hotdogs and lost them on that hairpin turn. Stop whining.
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Well, here you are posting on a "fanboy" site, ripping on fanboy's...whew, what a jet-setting, fun-filled life you must lead...and if the media duped you into *anything*, well then, moo-moo, cattle-boy, didn;t anyone ever tell you not to believe everything that you read/hear...AND, (to continue the run-ons) if you think that The Blair Witch Project was anything less than the most simple, pure, and honest dipiction of what humanity fears MOST (the unknown), then I'm sure that you can find a copy of FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 7 at Blockbuster...As for Kevin Smith, CLERKS is boring but funny, MALLRATS is an entertaining update of the JOHN HUGHES' teen film...CHASING AMY is a beautiful film about MALE FRIENDSHIP...and DOGMA looks, for the little I've seen of it, highly interesting/entertaining...
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If the best Canada has for a comeback is the nonstop unamused silence festival that WAS SCTV, I truly pity or porn-deprived neighbors to the north. The REAL Second City was in Chicago and produced much better talent. The Canadian SCTV just sucked (and that requires effort when your show features Joe Flaherty, Eugene Levy and John Candy)
Gee, wonder why we Americans hate Canadians so much? Maybe because they're really f-ing pretentious, with this whole "we're better than America" spiel they try to lay on us. The world might hate America, but I'm sure they're all *laughing* at Canada, and their goofy accents. Yeah. -
If only you could see yourself, Mr. Fury. If only you and all of the many millions of americans just like you could actually step out of that neon-lit bubble you all live in and look at yourselves objectively. In the meantime, let the Canadians do that and quietly take over your entire entertainment industry. I suppose you pat yourself on the back when you make insolent remarks, just like the bullies at grade-school. And the operative term here is grade-school, being is that is, apparently where your mentality lies. So continue on eating your hamburgers and buying handguns at JC penny, or wherever the fuck you buy your precious automatic weapons and continue shooting at each other and have nothing better to talk abut than where your president's dick has been, and us 'silly', 'pretentious' Canadians will watch you self-destruct. If we are so insignificant, why is your hero, Kevin Smith here, promoting his most recent hack film?
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thank you, oh Cap'n Canuck, for proving my point entirely and in such an eloquent manner. (despite the fact you probably mispronounce 25% of the words you used)
right back at ya, Gordy.
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By the way, just in case you were unable to read the entire previous posting of mine, there were a couple of other items on that list of mine that you sort of forgot to mention. By the way, Edith Prickley sitting alone in a room picking her toe jam is more entertaining than listening to yet another pithy, cute star wars 'look at how much pop-culture we know' dialogue in any of Mr. Smith's 'wacky' comedies. I suppose you're right about the accent though. Nothing incites more respect and sounds more intelligent than the backwoods drawl of the south, or the Baaaston accent, or the eloquent way New Yorkers speak. I know when I come across an American that pronounces everything with that hard aaaa sound in the place of where vowels go, I get a bit envious and am reminded of how silly and inferior I am. Oh well, looks like I'm abooot done! Whoops, there I go again! My huskies are barking at me, it seems it's time to go back to my igloo.
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everyone, everwhere, across all cultural boundaries, is a big stupid moron.
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