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Find Out Who Will Receive Copies Of Abrams' THE ART OF AVATAR!!

Published at:  Dec 09, 2009 11:34:38 AM CST


Merrick here...


...with the results of Abrams & AICN's ART OF AVATAR Giveaway.



Per THIS announcement (with images!), the name of the game was to e-mail our special address at, or closest to, a pre-selected time of day - one time of day was pre-selected for each day over a three day period (= one copy awarded a day). Whoever managed this feat would receive one (1) copy of THE ART OF AVATAR, which should now be on store shelves - or can be found HERE.

The three contestants who will be receiving copies are:

TUESDAY
Armon Mahajerin, CA


pre-selected time = 2:38pm CST USA
e-mail received @ 2:38pm CST USA





WEDNESDAY
Henry Dalton, LONDON

pre-selected time = 7:23am CST USA
e-mail received @ 7:25am CST USA





THURSDAY
Brian Anderson, WA


pre-selected time = 11:55pm CST USA
e-mail received @ 11:29pm CST USA




Congratulations to the recipients! Keep your eyes posted for upcoming opportunities...soon.



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    Readers Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 11:37:53 AM CST

    First

    by schnipple

    always...

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  • Dec 09, 2009 11:52:17 AM CST

    Wow! I won!

    by henrydalton

    That's so fucking awesome :D Been looking forward to Avatar since I wrote about it in my dissertation back in 2006! Thanks Merrick!!

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  • Dec 09, 2009 12:01:22 PM CST

    You know, thinking about it...

    by henrydalton

    The last 'Art of' book that I got was the Episode One one, a few days before it was released. I was really looking forward to that too. I hope that doesn't prove to be ironic.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 12:24:45 PM CST

    What's up with

    by seymourscagnettisbruisedego

    nerds and Rush?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 12:26:23 PM CST

    The greatest adventure of all time?

    by trannyformers_apologist

    Revolutionary ? Game-changing ? Change the way you read books forever? Epic masterpiece ?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 12:28:24 PM CST

    On December 18th...

    by seymourscagnettisbruisedego

    AVATAR will fail to achieve an erection and eyeballs nationwide will roll over, say that it's okay, and go to sleep.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 12:28:30 PM CST

    Anyone else think that this movie is gonna suck?

    by porterdsgn

  • Dec 09, 2009 12:32:58 PM CST

    DANCES WITH SMURFS THE SCRAPBOOK

    by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken

  • Dec 09, 2009 12:43:58 PM CST

    i think this movie is going to suck

    by ash_williams

    big time.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 12:48:31 PM CST

    i think this movie is going to rock

    by brewtix

    big time.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 1:04:09 PM CST

    i think this movie is going to rock.

    by snakecharmer

    And you can suck cock. haha.

    Glad the movie is finally coming out so I don't have to hear from the haters anymore. Getting my IMAX 3D tickets today.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 1:20:45 PM CST

    no subject

    by marathoner

    I've followed this site for years, but never felt compelled to respond to anything until now...

    It's odd that the same folks who criticize Hollywood for remakes, reimaginings, do-overs, etc. also criticize Cameron for doing original work. The guy has busted his ass providing you with top-notch entertainment since the early 80's. As a small token of appreciation for the hardest working director of all time who also happens to be a geek like the rest of us, why not give him the benefit of the doubt and take a wait-and-see approach? If Avatar comes up short, then it deserves criticism. At this point, however, if it succeeds, a lot of you will look foolish...

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  • Dec 09, 2009 1:34:58 PM CST

    Next time...

    by marathoner

    ...I'll put a note in the subject line.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 1:35:46 PM CST

    Sent mine at 11:20pm on Thursday...

    by prbuick

  • Dec 09, 2009 1:54:37 PM CST

    Sam Worthington related comment

    by famouseccles

    he was shit in T4. Nevermind the movie itself. he was just plain shite. lack of dialogue in the AVATAR trailer has me concerned that he is shit again. now I've seen the TITANS trailer and that has fuck all dialogue too. to say nothing of the lack of mechanical owls and winged steeds.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 2:02:42 PM CST

    Everything about this movie looks amazing

    by jsscript2007

    It's ironic that elements the haters choose to make reference to have all been massive successes in their own right. Furthermore, over the last few months I've seen a number of people who grew from starting as indifferent to now looking forward to seeing Avatar. This movie has the potential to be a milestone in the history of film and that's exciting. If the movie isn't, c'est la vie. But why hate it? If the movie becomes a big success, (which it appears it will be)generations of film going audiences will benefit from it. It might be too much for some narow minded people to grasp, but Avatar is truly an event that doesn't come along every day and is genuinely something to be excited about.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 2:13:53 PM CST

    Can't wait to get fucked all up in my eyeholes!

    by wrecks

    Oh and hey winners, I hate you.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 2:19:58 PM CST

    But

    by seymourscagnettisbruisedego

    hating's fun.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 2:32:05 PM CST

    But

    by jsscript2007

    Loving is more fun.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 2:37:25 PM CST

    ONCE HAD YUMMY LABIA

    by bobjustbob

    Can't we save all the hate for the next BAY and/or SHYAMALAN Talkback? Seriously, I'm a AVATAR skeptic but I also have my Midnight IMAX tickets for next week. I'll actually wait to judge the film until after I've seen it.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 2:44:11 PM CST

    Bobjustbob has a brain

    by jsscript2007

    because he's being fair. It's his right to be a skeptic, and who wouldn't be when you consider the majority of the films you will ever see are going to always be less than your all time favorite. But there's no hate.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 3:20:59 PM CST

    Cameron

    by marathoner

    Is uniquely consistent. I can't imagine this isn't going to be great. However, it will be different, more similar to a Pixar movie than live action, which may (or may not) become an issue.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 4:29:57 PM CST

    Saw a TV spot yesterday

    by billbelichick

    That said something like "PREPARE FOR THE GREATEST ADVENTURE OF ALL TIME"

    'Of the Year' I can understand but who would have the goddamn ego to proclaim this movie is going to be the greatest adventure of 'all time'?

    Eat shit Fox and Cameron

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 5:03:02 PM CST

    Camerons balls got bigger than his brain

    by jaysin420

    Yea T1 and T2 are incredible but so were the original Star Wars.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 5:05:18 PM CST

    I guess they wanted to play it down

    by jsscript2007

    from the Greatest Movie of All Time.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 5:06:22 PM CST

    I won! I can't believe it!

    by orionsangels

    I'm a compulsive liar too! I can't believe it!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 5:11:52 PM CST

    I saw a less than stellar TV spot today. It said...

    by jsscript2007

    We've built something for $350M and for $15 bucks we'll let you look at it for 3hrs. (After that you'll have to go.)

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 5:12:28 PM CST

    TRON Legacy 3D Trailer to air before Avatar!

    by orionsangels

  • Dec 09, 2009 5:12:44 PM CST

    Of course we should be skeptical

    by pelhamsim

    I honestly don't think the movie's going to be all that good. IT'S IN 3D! Finally, for the first time since this latest 3D trend started (and I'm a huge fan of 3D, so I've seen probably 9/10ths of the movies that have come out) I don't have to go see some dauntless, cutesy cartoons rollicking around trying to stop some real estate developer hell bent on destroying the rec center! I get to see actual explosions and guns and spaceships and things. I'll put up with a lot of crap for that.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 5:42:12 PM CST

    Abrams!?

    by sanitykaos

    What does JJ Abrams have to do with Avatar?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 7:01:29 PM CST

    Abrams is the name of the publisher.

    by the_coyote

    But I thought the same thing initially.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 8:05:15 PM CST

    Golden Globes ready to go gaga for Avatar

    by middleschoolmathteacher

    All you haters check out hitfix.com. The early reviews have Avatar nominated for Golden Globes in best picture and director.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 09, 2009 8:33:01 PM CST

    Finally figured out what this movie's claim to greatness is...

    by burnhollywood

    Ain't the science. Ain't the plot. Sure as hell ain't the dialogue or characters.
    No, what makes this movie interesting, wryly amusing and unique is...Cameron found a way to pit the "space marine" meme he created with ALIENS against LORD OF THE RINGS. It's Corporate America versus Rivendell, Dick Cheney versus Legolas, Blackwater versus The Silmarillion (complete with a magic tree...no shit), William Gibson versus JRR Tolkien. Cynicism versus Romanticism. SF versus Fantasy.
    Now, THAT'S actually clever and timely, especially in this era when old-fashioned "Hard SF" is in a sort of funk, partly due to the unpredictability of predicting what happens in the post-Singularity era...as a result of that conundrum, speculative fiction has veered sideways into steampunk, philosophical discourse (Neil Stephenson and DEATH NOTE), superheroes and supernatural fantasy (TWILIGHT and its ilk).
    While I doubt Cameron was out to make such a bold statement, AVATAR is actually a darkly humorous, unintentional metaphor for the state of speculative fiction onscreen and off in this era, as well as the "Clash Of Civilizations" pessimism of the Bush era slamming into the "Hope and Change" idealism of the Obama era head-on.
    If this message registers subconsciously with moviegoers in a positive way (and I still hold the majority of its take will be overseas), then it has the making of a major hit. Guess we'll see.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 8:39:28 PM CST

    Burnhollywood

    by jsscript2007

    Watch the French interview with Cameron. He explains clearly what it's about. It's different than what you say.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 8:47:21 PM CST

    jsscript2007

    by burnhollywood

    Yes, I KNOW it's fucking different. What I'm trying to express is, what's interesting enough about this movie to

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  • Dec 09, 2009 8:50:03 PM CST

    jsscript2007 (part 2)

    by burnhollywood

    (oops)
    ...warrant seeing it in the face of the predictable message he lays out is the larger context I've outlined above. Sometimes an artist plays a violin...sometimes the violin plays him.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 9:58:50 PM CST

    SCREENING TOMORROW

    by blakindigo

    http://www.collider.com/2009/12/09/6-movie-clips-from-james-camerons-avatar/

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  • Dec 09, 2009 10:14:44 PM CST

    Hmm...different...

    by glitch5

    This film does seem to be up there in unique settings of films. "Avatar" looks like a great work of art by Peter Jackson. Is he directing it? He didn't fail us with the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and if I get the chance to see this movie, I don't think I will be disappointing.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 10:45:49 PM CST

    Is anyone awake on this site?

    by blakindigo

    southafricaguy? Ominus? tehcreepythinman? Continentalop? AsimovLives? lockesbrokenleg? Turd? theKRELL?Hello?

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  • Dec 09, 2009 11:19:48 PM CST

    RealD or IMAX Digital 3D?

    by bubbadestructo

    I have the opportunity to see Avatar in either of these formats.

    Which 3D format would you recommend, and why?

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  • Dec 09, 2009 11:35:18 PM CST

    RealD FTW

    by blakindigo

    There is nothing wrong with IMAX Digital, nothing at all. But, I noticed that on the IMAX screen, if you don't sit back far enough, the image was overwhelming, and difficult to absorb. The chase sequence with the panther-like beast (I went to "Avatar Day" and saw the 15 min presentation. Twice.) was well paced, but difficult to follow. Unfortunately I was sitting too close. If you do go to IMAX try to sit further back, because the screen is about 80' high.The polarizers used in Real D supposedly allow for greater head movement, although you'd probably have to A/B roll them back-to-back. But, if you want the grandest IMAGE possible on the largest screen then see it in IMAX. Just sit farther back.

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  • Dec 09, 2009 11:39:13 PM CST

    Also, check this article on the Real D/IMAX debate

    by blakindigo

    http://lennylipton.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/compositional-differences-real-d-vs-imax/

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  • Dec 10, 2009 1:59:26 AM CST

    Gimme my book.

    by motoko kusanagi

  • Dec 10, 2009 3:27:49 AM CST

    I bought my 22 TICKETS yesterday

    by sherlock_junior

    Going with a bunch!!!! :D

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 10, 2009 5:42:11 AM CST

    i think this movie is going to rock.

    by sherlock_junior

    i think this movie is going to rock.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 6:33:30 AM CST

    BurnHollywood stop trolling ffs man

    by ominus

  • Dec 10, 2009 6:40:28 AM CST

    James Cameron: Lube your eyes well

    by ominus

    Its going to hurt on December 18

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:13:00 AM CST

    SIX NEW(ISH) CLIPS

    by blakindigo

    http://www.collider.com/2009/12/09/6-movie-clips-from-james-camerons-avatar/

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:53:17 AM CST

    pelhamsim

    by marathoner

    Did you miss Beowulf in 3D?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:05:32 AM CST

    blakindigo...

    by bubbadestructo

    ...thanks for the RealD/IMAX 3D info, dude.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:14:33 AM CST

    Avatar will be good because the trailers are weak

    by mst3kpimp

    seriously. most blockbuster movies that dissapoint usually have trailers that wow you, they are made for the sole purpose of producing a trailer to pack theaters. I recall not caring for the trailers for Dark Knight but was surprised how good it was. So I'm going with the weak trailer=good movie theory. I mean cumon it's Cameron!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 12:22:49 PM CST

    I've seen Christmas Carol in IMAX

    by johnryder

    and it was very underwhelming. I hope AVATAR uses better technology (the +D trailer before the movie was very impressive) but my experience is that if you do not sit right in the middle of the row, you might as well better watch a 2d version, cause the wrong angle of perspective only ruins the movie.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 1:12:24 PM CST

    HOLY SHIT today is the Premiere in London

    by ominus

    i hope AICN will post the first reviews from the geeks who watched it over there.lucky bastards.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 1:22:19 PM CST

    Well .. We will certainly know tonight how this is..

    by mr dark

    premiere tonight in London ... we'll see what the limeys think of it...

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  • Dec 10, 2009 1:27:05 PM CST

    Actually ..we should be getting reviews shortly

    by mr dark

    Its 7:30 pm. thursday evening right about now.. so in 3-4 hours we should hear something...I hope its rockin good news..I want to see something totally awesome...

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  • Dec 10, 2009 1:38:56 PM CST

    Guardian 'review'. Looking good!!

    by wildphantom07

    http://tinyurl.com/y8m72k6

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  • I only borrowed it because of the one word review from Harry Knowles of A.I.C.N. and that one word was "awesome" ....Well I gotta tell yeah I borrowed this movie for free and I still felt cheated.. I don't know what psychoactive substances were ingested during your showing Harry but I saw this in a semi-concious state of mind and I can't believe you enjoyed this film..I'm sure I'm late to the
    fuck G.I. Joe party but I was surprised that you put your name on this as "awesome"..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 1:43:06 PM CST

    Some early word/reviews from the UK

    by johnno

    The Guardian doesn't want to break their contract, but makes some coy comments about the film stating that, everyone in the audience was positive about the film, and that the film does not suck:
    tinyurl.com/y8m72k6

    And the SUN gives a short but glowing review saying it's theg reatest thing ever, and while the story is approached in a black/white way it's excellent and the 3D is great and the effects are great and teh action is great and it's an awesome time!
    tinyurl.com/yd4ylfb

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  • Dec 10, 2009 1:47:30 PM CST

    Yeah read the embargoed review from the Gaurdian

    by mr dark

    It doesn't say much except it wasn't a train wreck. It does say it was better than expected..The fan reviews will be the most interesting I hope without to much spoilers..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 2:07:33 PM CST

    ominus

    by burnhollywood

    Honestly, man...I'm getting real fucking sick of your high and mighty "self-appointed defender of AVATAR bullshit".
    You're not smart, you're not witty, you're just a suck-up with a keyboard. The internet's crawling with you wretches. I honestly hope you're a studio shill so we don't see your ass again after Dec. 18.
    So go fuck yourself...or since you live in Greece, go outside and hire a guy to roger you. You probably won't have to walk more than a half a block. Either way.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 2:14:02 PM CST

    Whattsa matter Burnhollywood !!!

    by mr dark

  • Dec 10, 2009 2:15:24 PM CST

    Good reviews already making you feel like a fucking jerk

    by mr dark

    I hope you choke to death on the good reviews you fucking troll.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 2:18:50 PM CST

    Hey, mr dark...

    by burnhollywood

    (Oooh...scary name. Must impress your 300 lb. goth girlfriend over at the Starbucks...)
    If you had two fucking brain cells that could work together long enough to finish the three-legged-race of a thought, you'd see I was actually COMPLIMENTING the movie above, dipshit.
    Try reading somebody's posts for a change, rather than getting your information from a Turkish bum-baby.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 2:34:21 PM CST

    Burn Hollywood you ignorant cunt..

    by mr dark

    You are the kind of schizo scum that has nothing better to do than troll the boards..I've read your fuckin posts and you are nothing but a small little minded person of no worth or importance.
    This is what must trigger your diatribes against something you haven't experienced or seen..Your just another troll who isn't even worth to be pitied..Your post to ominus with it's homosexual overtones are fitting for a person of your ilk. I hope you and your mom aren't going to get too cold out in line when you are standing outside to see this film. If you do you do get too cold just have your mommy warm you up like she does when it gets cold down there..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 2:35:20 PM CST

    Early Hollywood Review

    by middleschoolmathteacher

    Rotten tomatoes has an artical that states - Could "Avatar" score Golden Globe nominations for Best Picture - Drama and Best Director? That's the buzz after an extremely well-received Hollywood screening.

    I can't wait for this movie. I've shown the trailer and Thanatar chase to all 200 of my students and I'd say most are going to see this over Xmas break.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 2:37:34 PM CST

    Sits back and laughs at the 'haters'

    by kwisatzhaderach

    as Cameron fucks you all in the ass. Enjoy!!!!!!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 2:59:37 PM CST

    mr dark

    by burnhollywood

    If you're feeling a headache right now, it's because you nearly gave yourself a fucking aneurysm trying to arrive at an approximation of "wit" with your limited intellect and education. Go grab another box of Twinkies and rest for a while, loser.
    And stop Freudian Projecting your current relationship with that obese sow that dropped your encephalitic ass out onto others. It's unseemly, and doesn't cover for the fact that you turned up nine months after a US Navy laundry ship steamed out of port with a hold full of drunken sailors who couldn't remember where their dicks had been ten hours earlier...

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  • Dec 10, 2009 3:03:35 PM CST

    Burn hollywood

    by mr dark

    You're trying way to hard...I hope you enjoy the film

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  • Dec 10, 2009 3:04:57 PM CST

    And BTW...

    by burnhollywood

    ...I made the prediction some time ago that this movie, with its anti-imperialist message, would get a more positive reception overseas.
    This morning, we have a positive review from The Guardian. And where's The Guardian? Why, in the UK. And where's the UK? Why, it's OVERSEAS.
    Stay awake and you might learn something, people.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 3:05:45 PM CST

    Burn Hollywood ...

    by mr dark

    I will see you in line..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 3:07:16 PM CST

    Burn Hollywood

    by mr dark

    The line to screw your mama..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 3:18:24 PM CST

    mr dark

    by burnhollywood

    Not anywhere near as long as the line for a cut-rate knob-polishing that snakes around the corner of a nearby alley and ends in your mouth.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 3:19:17 PM CST

    mr dark

    by burnhollywood

    Might give AVATAR a run for its money, revenue-wise.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 4:31:59 PM CST

    Oh Burn...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Imagine if you put all that energy into improving your life instead of insulting strangers who are looking froward to seeing a movie that hasn't been released yet? Imagine the possibilities.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 4:41:15 PM CST

    Actually, I'm just relieved

    by seniorspeilbergio

    I mean, we lost Lucas, we lost Speilberg. They've obviously lost there muse (okay, maybe not the Berg. There's still a chance). It's just nice to know, our "last hope" didn't drop the ball. Half the haters (the fanatical ones, praying for its' failure) i don't get but the other half? They were just scared that we were going to get another TPM or Krystal Skull. I get that. I really do. We've all been burned alot this decade, haven't we? So thanks Big Jim (if the early reviews are any indication) for not filing down your rough edges.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:10:29 PM CST

    Oh the humanity!!!

    by mr dark

    I've been insulted by a moron...

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:23:20 PM CST

    seniorspeilbergio

    by burnhollywood

    What, I might not be collecting a paycheck from your present employers at Taco Bell? DONE!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:25:12 PM CST

    Spielberg loved Avatar

    by jsscript2007

    http://avatarmoviezone.com/

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:25:30 PM CST

    mr dark

    by burnhollywood

    Which moron? Did your mom finally wake up from her ongoing hangover long enough to diss you again?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:31:35 PM CST

    And for the record, I'm fully on board the AVATAR train...

    by burnhollywood

    Reason being, Oscar's expanding its Best Picture roster from five movies to ten, and after all the groaning over last year's genre snub of THE DARK KNIGHT, the inclusion of a fantasy/SF flick is nearly certain.
    Ugly rumors are circulating that the Academy might feel obligated to shoehorn in that FPOS STAR TREK (DISTRICT 9 and MOON are actually considered dark horses, because the Academy doesn't give a shit about shoestring productions), in lieu of any other choices, so-o-o-o...
    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SEE AVATAR! Better Cameron on the Oscar stage any day of the week than those ghouls Orci and Kurtzman! MAKE HIM "KING OF THE WORLD" AGAIN!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:41:17 PM CST

    Oh I see ..Now your on the Avatar train

    by mr dark

    Well now everyone can see you for what you are and thats a troll..I'm sure you will be one among the many who will even upon seeing this film and probably enjoying it, still call it a disaster..You should seek help..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:43:03 PM CST

    The reviews will be coming in

    by mr dark

    BurnHollywoods mouth

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:47:02 PM CST

    UK Sun loved it

    by jsscript2007

    Last line from the UK Sun review...

    The Sneak's advice is to make sure you can say you were there when the future of cinema began.



    Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/2765598/We-get-first-look-at-3D-blockbuster-Avatar.html#ixzz0ZKgZwFG8

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:51:46 PM CST

    Avatar is going to FUCKING ROCK!

    by filmfan311

    Back in August, I attended the Avatar 3-D IMAX 15 minutes of footage simply as something to kill the time before seeing INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS that night. Low and behold, AVATAR: 3-D IMAX was fucking AMAZING for all 15 minutes and I simply cannot wait for this next week! Fuck the Haters! I've never seen anything like it before. See you at the movies next week!!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:54:37 PM CST

    Gettin' down to the short strokes

    by jsscript2007

    with just a week to go.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 5:55:30 PM CST

    BUrn, Burn, Burn...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Tsk. Tsk. That attitude will never get you out of your moms' basement.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 6:07:28 PM CST

    mr dark

    by burnhollywood

    You are one sad, neurotic little jerk-off, you know that? A fucking adult turns up on a Talkback and says that while he has some reservations about plot elements, he thinks the movie occupies a worthy niche in movie history...and actually explains that compliment.
    But that's not good enough. No, you've got to be some wild-eyed fucking Cameron fanatic, who thinks it's going to be "the bestest movie ever, ever, ever!!!" or some mouthy little worm like you or ominus is going to start wailing "troll!" or "hater!"
    So fuck you both. I hope it is good...in fact, I hope it's so fucking great, your fat ass chokes on the tenth hot dog you're forcing down your throat, and the last thing you see is a big blue Na'vi face beaming down on you like Lincoln's head on Mt. Rushmore as your fat carcass collapses.
    It's probably the way you wanted to go, anyway.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 6:10:26 PM CST

    seniorspeilbergio

    by burnhollywood

    My "attitude" got my balls on your sister's chin, so don't knock it...

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  • Dec 10, 2009 6:17:53 PM CST

    Empire - 5 stars

    by wildphantom07

    Review just gone up. Embargo must have been lifted.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 6:18:44 PM CST

    Burn Hollywood

    by mr dark

    Where is this adult you talk so highly of..You sir are a troll plain and simple..Your bandwagon jumping now that good word of mouth is coming out is typical..It will be the same action as many who wished this movie to be a failure .. I don't know what kind of people wish failure upon something that declares itself to be something new and game changing.I would think it is the most backwards ass kind of person that there could possibly be..If you don't like film what the fuck are you doing here?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 6:22:40 PM CST

    Five stars .* * * * * whoo hoo!!!

    by mr dark

    BurnHollywood I hope your assholes on fire..Your mother got five stars in a T.J. whorehouse the last time your sister took me there..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 6:34:40 PM CST

    last part of empre review ( no spoiler)

    by mr dark

    Verdict
    It’s been twelve years since Titanic, but the King of the World has returned with a flawed but fantastic tour de force that, taken on its merits as a film, especially in two dimensions, warrants four stars. However, if you can wrap a pair of 3D glasses round your peepers, this becomes a transcendent, full-on five-star experience that's the closest we'll ever come to setting foot on a strange new world. Just don’t leave it so long next time, eh, Jim?

    Oh yeah ..Thats pretty much what I was wanting out of this..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 6:50:36 PM CST

    Feels good doesn't it haters?

    by mandrakeroot

    No one believed us when we said the Avatar day footage was something to behold. Heck most people here have been doing nothing but claiming Avatar will be awful, a flop, or that it just doesn't interest them. I'll admit the last complaint could be valid, cause to each his own...but to doubt Jim Cameron would deliver a great movie? C'mon people!

    I'm gonna love seeing douches like Trannyformers and Retard Nerd show themselves around here after their "guarantees" fall flat. Leave em with a nice quote...

    "The movie is 161 minutes and flies by in a rush. Repeat business? You bet. "Titanic"-level business? That level may never be reached again, but Fox will see more than enough grosses worldwide to cover its bet on Cameron. "

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:00:56 PM CST

    The Haters are just that... nothing more..

    by mr dark

    Nothing better to do in life..Nothing more to accomplish..
    Lost the positive footing..I guess thats all they have left..Find something or someone to hate..pity the poor trolls..
    I am looking forward to a great film and really even though I hate the word a "moviegoing event".I had faith in James Cameron to deliver this time around and it sounds like he did..
    In spades..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:07:57 PM CST

    mr dark

    by burnhollywood

    Okay, let's try it this way...rather than buzzing around my dick like the irritating gnat you are, trying to keep up outside your weight class, show me where I was "trolling", cockbreath.
    Go ahead...show me. I'm waiting.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:09:16 PM CST

    The last line of Hollywood Reporter review..

    by mr dark

    The only question is: How will Cameron ever top this?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:12:02 PM CST

    Whatsa Matter Burn...

    by mr dark

    you already forget all the shit you've slung..Fuck off and die..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:15:56 PM CST

    The internet just exploded

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • Dec 10, 2009 7:18:03 PM CST

    Massawyrm on Avatar

    by kwisatzhaderach

    "So I just got back from a movie. It was pretty great…if by pretty great I mean OMFGHOLYFUCKINGSHITOMGOMGOMG. Because that’s what it was."

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:23:02 PM CST

    Empire:

    by kwisatzhaderach

    "Avatar is a hugely rewarding experience: rich, soulful and exciting in the way that only comes from seeing a master artist at work."

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:23:04 PM CST

    London Reviews

    by secretcylon

    Film is supposedly amazing.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:24:26 PM CST

    Empire:

    by kwisatzhaderach

    "The last forty minutes, in which Cameron uncorks the action and shows all the young pretenders – the Bays and the Emmerichs and the Von Triers (?!) – how it’s done. The human attack on Pandora and the subsequent fightback, led by Avatar-Jake, is a largely sustained setpiece of quite staggering scale, imagination and emotion that manages to compress both the truly epic – a human attack on a Na’vi landmark that recalls 9/11 in its devastating imagery – and the thrillingly intimate, as Jake finally faces off against the excellent Stephen Lang’s Quaritch."

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:28:23 PM CST

    Burn Hollywood

    by mr dark

    I would seriuosly buy you a ticket to a Imax sceening of Avatar..Just to hear what you thought of it..Since I can't hand you a ticket I really will look back into the message boards to look for your thoughts on this film after it opens...I hope you like it.. It was real nice chatting with you today..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:32:22 PM CST

    Pass me a tissue!

    by jsscript2007

  • Dec 10, 2009 7:33:16 PM CST

    The "Review Embargo" was Lifted

    by nivek666

    Where are the reviews AICN, your behind the Sun, The Hollywood Reporter, and Empire!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:41:30 PM CST

    Hooray for Cameron

    by secretcylon

    I am truly humble.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:50:55 PM CST

    Review: How will Cameron ever top this?

    by snakecharmer

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/avatar-film-review-1004052868.story

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:54:20 PM CST

    Haters? Where are you?

    by snakecharmer

    Smurs in space in apparently really good. haha. hahaha.
    hahahahahaha. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:55:03 PM CST

    JJ Abrams just got served

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Star what?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:56:31 PM CST

    I bet we'll see BACK TO BACK

    by jsscript2007

    Best Picture noms for Cameron. And more.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 7:58:52 PM CST

    Avatar review has crashed the Hollywood Reporter

    by jsscript2007

    According to Nikki Finke

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:02:39 PM CST

    jsscript2007

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Yup, I can't access it.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:07:12 PM CST

    I am so fucking happy for Cameron

    by jsscript2007

    I can't stop grinning. Seriously. The reviews make it sound like he not only will quiet the doubters, but has shoved it in their teeth and made them look stupid.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:16:49 PM CST

    Hollywood Reporter was super slow. It's down.

    by snakecharmer

  • Dec 10, 2009 8:18:24 PM CST

    mr dark

    by burnhollywood

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I knew it.
    Buh-bye.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:19:31 PM CST

    The Second Coming

    by kwisatzhaderach

    All hail our lord and saviour JC!!!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:27:06 PM CST

    All you haters can grab your ankles

    by jsscript2007

    FIVE OUT OF FIVE STARS!!!!!!!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:27:38 PM CST

    Wow

    by secretcylon

    My whole mood has changed. Hooray for Cameron. Our Savior. I'm already thinking of the silly dance number they'll do at the oscars for "I See You." Will the dancers all be painted blue? I truly hope it's Titanic all over again. Cameron makes movies fun and exciting again.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:29:48 PM CST

    Awesome!

    by seniorspeilbergio

    I'm so sorry for you Burn. The movie apparently rocks. I pity your pettiness and bile. I really do.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:30:36 PM CST

    I HOPE JIM IS LIGHTING A BIG FAT CIGAR RIGHT NOW

    by jsscript2007

    He's now King of the Universe.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:34:03 PM CST

    AICN - get Motoko to review this - please!!!

    by miyamoto_musashi

  • Dec 10, 2009 8:34:50 PM CST

    Hollywood reporter is not loading well

    by miyamoto_musashi

    If you have the review post it in here please

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:35:19 PM CST

    Where's our thread!?

    by hatershate

    Aint-it-motherfucking-slow-news. We get "updates" for months on the most inane bullshit surrounding this movie and then on the night when the critics explode in praise and geeks crash websites... we've got nothing. This site is so frequently a joke. I want a damn dedicated thread to gloat about the fact that CAMERON OWNED EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THE WORTHLESS TROLLS YET AGAIN! That is all.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:35:31 PM CST

    Thank God..

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Big Jim didn't loose his mind like the other big boys (speilberg, Lucas). The biggest reason I want to see this, I think; is because this is really the first Cameron film that heavily incorporates the organic. All of his other films have taken place in highly technological environments (Deepcore in The Abyss, the colonists settlement in Aliens, Modern and Future LA in Terminator). That's a pretty big departure for that guy and it sounds like he nailed it.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:36:50 PM CST

    Burn Trolls, Burn...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Ha! Ha! See what I did there?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:38:26 PM CST

    yeah just reading HR review now

    by miyamoto_musashi

    What a line "The only question is: How will Cameron ever top this?"

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:38:46 PM CST

    seniorspeilbergio

    by burnhollywood

    What "pettiness" and "bile", pray tell? When I said the movie was "clever and timely" above?
    Oh, that's right...I got an advance copy LAST NIGHT and saw I was wrong, right?
    Seeing as mr dark ducked out, maybe you'd care to answer where my "bile" was "petty". Knock yourself out, junior.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:39:53 PM CST

    BURN

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Every single post you've put up. The personal attacks on everyone that doesn't agree with you, little man.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:40:39 PM CST

    Like i said...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    I pity you. Chin up, Burn. Chin up.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:47:16 PM CST

    1 week to go for me to see this in IMAX

    by miyamoto_musashi

    Though I should have got the advanced ticket

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:48:14 PM CST

    HOLLYWOOD REPORTER REVIEW

    by jsscript2007

    Bottom Line: A titanic entertainment -- movie magic is back!
    A dozen years later, James Cameron has proven his point: He is king of the world.

    As commander-in-chief of an army of visual-effects technicians, creature designers, motion-capture mavens, stunt performers, dancers, actors and music and sound magicians, he brings science-fiction movies into the 21st century with the jaw-dropping wonder that is "Avatar." And he did it almost from scratch.

    There is no underlying novel or myth to generate his story. He certainly draws deeply on Westerns, going back to "The Vanishing American" and, in particular, "Dances With Wolves." And the American tragedy in Vietnam informs much of his story. But then all great stories build on the past ( "Avatar" premiered Thursday in London).

    After writing this story many years ago, he discovered that the technology he needed to make it happen did not exist. So, he went out and created it in collaboration with the best effects minds in the business. This is motion capture brought to a new high where every detail of the actors' performances gets preserved in the final CG character as they appear on the screen. Yes, those eyes are no longer dead holes but big and expressive, almost dominating the wide and long alien faces.

    The movie is 161 minutes and flies by in a rush. Repeat business? You bet. "Titanic"-level business? That level may never be reached again, but Fox will see more than enough grosses worldwide to cover its bet on Cameron.

    But let's cut to the chase: A fully believable, flesh-and-blood (albeit not human flesh and blood) romance is the beating heart of "Avatar." Cameron has never made a movie just to show off visual pyrotechnics: Every bit of technology in "Avatar" serves the greater purpose of a deeply felt love story (watch the trailer here).

    The story takes place in 2154, three decades after a multinational corporation has established a mining colony on Pandora, a planet light years from Earth. A toxic environment and hostile natives -- one corporate apparatchik calls the locals "blue monkeys" -- forces the conglom to engage with Pandora by proxy. Humans dwell in oxygen-drenched cocoons but move out into mines or to confront the planet's hostile creatures in hugely fortified armor and robotics or -- as avatars.

    The protagonist, Jake Sully (Sam Worthington), is a crippled former Marine who takes his late twin brother's place in the avatar program, a sort of bone thrown to the scientific community by the corporation in hopes that the study of Pandora and its population might create a more peaceful planet.

    Without any training, Jake suddenly must learn how to link his consciousness to an avatar, a remotely controlled biological body that mixes human DNA with that of the native population, the Na'vi. Since he is incautious and overly curious, he immediately rushes into the fresh air -- to a native -- to throw open Pandora's many boxes.

    What a glory Cameron has created for Jake to romp in, all in a crisp 3D realism. It's every fairy tale about flying dragons, magic plants, weirdly hypnotic creepy-crawlies and feral dogs rolled up into a rain forest with a highly advanced spiritual design. It seems -- although the scientists led by Sigourney Weaver's top doc have barely scratched the surface -- a flow of energy ripples through the roots of trees and the spores of the plants, which the Na'vi know how to tap into.

    The center of life is a holy tree where tribal memories and the wisdom of their ancestors is theirs for the asking. This is what the humans want to strip mine.

    Jake manages to get taken in by one tribe where a powerful, Amazonian named Neytiri (Zoe Saldana) takes him under her wing to teach him how to live in the forest, speak the language and honor the traditions of nature. Yes, they fall in love but Cameron has never been a sentimentalist: He makes it tough on his love birds.

    They must overcome obstacles and learn each other's heart. The Na'vi have a saying, "I see you," which goes beyond the visual. It means I see into you and know your heart.

    In his months with the Na'vi, Jake experiences their life as the "true world" and that inside his crippled body locked in a coffin-like transponding device, where he can control his avatar, is as the "dream." The switch to the other side is gradual for his body remains with the human colony while his consciousness is sometimes elsewhere.

    He provides solid intelligence about the Na'vi defensive capabilities to Col. Miles Quaritch (Stephen Lang), the ramrod head of security for the mining consortium and the movie's villain. But as Jake comes to see things through Neytiri's eyes, he hopes to establish enough trust between the humans and the natives to negotiate a peace. But the corporation wants the land the Na'vi occupy for its valuable raw material so the Colonel sees no purpose in this.

    The battle for Pandora occupies much of the final third of the film. The planet's animal life -- the creatures of the ground and air -- give battle along with the Na'vi, but they come up against projectiles, bombs and armor that seemingly will be their ruin.



    As with everything in "Avatar," Cameron has coolly thought things through. With every visual tool he can muster, he takes viewers through the battle like a master tactician, demonstrating how every turn in the fight, every valiant death or cowardly act, changes its course. The screen is alive with more action and the soundtrack pops with more robust music than any dozen sci-fi shoot-'em-ups you care to mention (watch the "Avatar" video game trailer here).

    In years of development and four years of production no detail in the pic is unimportant. Cameron's collaborators excel beginning with the actors. Whether in human shape or as natives, they all bring terrific vitality to their roles.

    Mauro Fiore's cinematography is dazzling as it melts all the visual elements into a science-fiction whole. You believe in Pandora. Rick Carter and Robert Stromberg's design brings Cameron's screenplay to life with disarming ease.

    James Horner's score never intrudes but subtlety eggs the action on while the editing attributed to Cameron, Stephen Rivkin and John Refoua maintains a breathless pace that exhilarates rather than fatigues. Not a minute is wasted; there is no down time.

    The only question is: How will Cameron ever top this?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:50:33 PM CST

    Can't agree enough with this line

    by miyamoto_musashi

    "But then all great stories build on the past "

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:51:30 PM CST

    I can't wait to see this in 3-D..

    by seniorspeilbergio

    I've skipped over all the Pixar stuff and the two Zemeckis films so I've saved this one for my first 3-D experience. Hell, I think the last 3-D movie I saw was Jaws 3-D. This just may be a little better.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:53:22 PM CST

    Aint-it-motherfucking-slow-news is right.

    by snakecharmer

    They've been a day or two late on all the AVATAR post.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:54:58 PM CST

    Yeah I come here for the talkbackers to update me

    by miyamoto_musashi

    On the latest news, not the guys running this site.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 8:55:50 PM CST

    seniorspeilbergio

    by burnhollywood

    Don't bother with college, schoolboy...it drives professors apeshit when you generalize and don't cite your evidence.
    I posted a critique FAR above in which I said AVATAR's claim to greatness is its "SF versus fantasy" meme. ominus (who's been calling me a troll for weeks now because I don't think Cameron is Jesus and this movie will make CITIZEN KANE look like PLAN 9) doesn't address anything I said, just calls me a "troll", so I went medieval on his ass...which he deserves. mr dark sees fit to involve himself without reading what I wrote, so he gets the same treatment. Then you involve yourself with the same fucking brainless meddling.
    You're just being pissy because you see I fight back, that's all. You're trying to play toady and getting your sour little face bloodied. Boo hoo.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:01:17 PM CST

    BURN...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Everyone knows you for a troll. The "evidence" is in every single post you've put forth. There is not one single person here who doesn't think that about you. If you can't see that, then you're obviously in denial and having the last word with everyone doesn't mean "you win" but if you want to think that, go right ahead. Ask yourself this? Why does it bother you so much that other people are excited for this? What do you care?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:01:57 PM CST

    Hey Burn...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    I love you, man. :).

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:02:10 PM CST

    Long live the King..Oh and burn Hollywood

    by mr dark

    I'm still here you douchebag..I just wouldn't take the time to complie your self absorbed meanderings and countless attempts at putting down the people who actually want this film to succeed. so eat it hard
    motherfucker..Buck up and read the reviews little man so you can see you are now in the minority..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:03:19 PM CST

    Nah, not really...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Oh, by the way, did you hear? Avatar rocks! I don't know if you heard about that or not. Ha! Ha!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:04:18 PM CST

    Mr. Dark...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Tag team dude. Finish him. I'm leaving work now.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:05:30 PM CST

    oh yeah and Burn I will give you a free ticket..

    by mr dark

    I will be in line opening night at the Magic Johnson Theaters in Compton, Ca. .. Just yell out for Mr. Dark and ask for your free ticket I'll be waiting to meet and greet you..

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:05:34 PM CST

    Cameron may not be Jesus, but...

    by jsscript2007

    If Cinemas were Churches, Cameron delivers one helluva sermon.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:08:16 PM CST

    The reason reviews are taking long to come up

    by johnno

    Is because the audience just had their eyeballs FUCKED! So it's taking them awhile to adjust enough to see their laptops and type something coherant.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:10:49 PM CST

    crapatar

    by ash_williams

    every commercial i see for this movie makes me cringe. the navi look stupid as hell. and the mechs look like they were borrowed from the matrix 3. 500 million... for this?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:12:23 PM CST

    Grab your ankles Ash - The movie is gold

    by jsscript2007

    So sad for you.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:15:27 PM CST

    Ash

    by hatershate

    Your mother is a whore.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:15:48 PM CST

    cameron is mediocre at best

    by ash_williams

    abyss: cheesy and way to long. not enough action. bad story. worst. ending. ever.

    T2: cheesy. made for kids. arnold is the good guy. the true death of the terminator franchise.

    titanic: never saw it because its for women.

    true lies: bad writing. ok action. tom arnold sucks.

    avatar: cameron joins the ranks of george lucas and steven speilberg.

    the end

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:17:41 PM CST

    Hollywood Reporter guy, huh...?

    by madeyemongo

    Let's see, what else did this guy like?

    Jurassic Park 3; MIB 2; The Core; Hulk; Terminator 3; Timeline(!?!); Paycheck; Butterfly Effect; Transformers; Beowulf; The Golden Compass; At least he hated some really justifiable dreck: Eragon, AvP, AvP:R, Catwoman, I Robot; but I will look to others for opinions I trust about Avatar....

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:18:00 PM CST

    Ash

    by hatershate

    Troll harder.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:18:40 PM CST

    I apologize Ash

    by jsscript2007

    I didn't realize you were a goof.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:19:23 PM CST

    cgi is the opium of the masses

    by ash_williams

    since when do cgi and a big budget make for a good movie? paranormal activity will make more money than avatar. district 9 stole avatars thunder. cameron should talk to jj abrahms about how to make a good scifi flick.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:20:47 PM CST

    And the renewed trolling commences

    by hatershate

    X critic like Y movie, so their opinion is invalid.

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ avatar/
    AND hundreds of extremely excited tweets. Fuck off trolls.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:21:27 PM CST

    avatar: scifi made for 12 year old girls

    by ash_williams

    its the new twilight. it just wont make as much money as twilight.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:22:36 PM CST

    twitter is for 12 year old girls

    by ash_williams

    anyone who uses twitter is a douche bag or a tween girl.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:23:48 PM CST

    Ash_Williams were do I see your masterpiece?

    by snakecharmer

    I'll wait.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:24:21 PM CST

    if people would actually read

    by ash_williams

    these talkbacks they would see that there is far more negative reaction to avatar than positive. but, that would mean that you have to read. which is asking a lot, i know.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:25:43 PM CST

    12 Year Old Girls He Says

    by hatershate

    http://twitter.com/simonpegg

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:25:56 PM CST

    Jeez, the Variety guy is worse than the Hollywood Reporter guy..

    by madeyemongo

    Check out what *he* liked: Surrogates, 9, Knowing (!!!), Mars Attacks, The Day After Tomorrow, The Core, Terminator 3, Bicentennial Man....I'll cut him some slack for slagging Daredevil, Star Wars Episode I, and Solaris(2002); but I don't trust his taste in Sci-Fi movies either....

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:29:24 PM CST

    Hey Hatershate douche...

    by madeyemongo

    Everyone's entitled to their opinion; I never said their reviews were invalid, I said based on what they've reviewed in the past I doubt I'll trust their opinion. All you avatards talking about how great the movie will be are no better than those that slag it. Get out of your mom's basement and be a more discerning consumer. You are the reason hollywood serves up mostly pap.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:30:41 PM CST

    of course no one on this site

    by ash_williams

    has ever criticized a movie. oh, no. all the talkbackers on this site only ever make positive comments. hhhmmm. i get it. if someone criticizes a movie that you dont like, then thats ok. if someone criticizes a movie you do like, then he's a troll.

    oh, and since when do you have to have made a movie to criticize a movie? thats retarded logic.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:32:37 PM CST

    HAHAHA Avatar Apparently really is like CHinese Democracy!

    by spacezilla

    A Motherfucking masterpiece. SUCK IT HATERS. ASH YOU FUCKING DUMB MOTHERFUCKER HAHAHAHHA. That a boy JIM!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:35:09 PM CST

    seniorspeilbergio

    by burnhollywood

    "Tag team"?! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Is that what they call domestic partnerships in California, now?
    You're copping out like a total pussy. Same as mr dark (lowercase, 'cause I guess he's a lesbian in a fat boy's body).
    Rather than bark like a couple of bitches harmonizing, cite my "trolling" passage, loudmouths. I'm still waiting.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:35:10 PM CST

    Mom's Basement? check

    by hatershate

    straw man? check. Wildly nonsensical argument? Check. I merely pointed out that the reviews and buzz so far are OVERWHELMINGLY positive. Based on that, the director, and what I've seen so far I would tend to believe that I will in fact like this movie. And to be fair, you didn't actually say anything, you just trolled and implied that the positive reviews didn't matter, thereby also implying that the movie, despite the overwhelming positive reception it has received will suck. I'm starting my analysis of this movie from a rational and informed position and you are being a cut rate troll. Are we done here?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:36:02 PM CST

    seriously, though

    by ash_williams

    who is this movie made for? what is the target audience? i cant figure it out. it just looks like one big toy commercial. so, i guess its a kids movie.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:36:55 PM CST

    guns and roses sucks ass

    by ash_williams

    chinese democracy was shit

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:40:19 PM CST

    in the real world

    by ash_williams

    the "buzz" on this film is: meh. people are dis-interested. every normal person i know and work with has no interest in this movie at all. and on this site, i have seen the opinion become more and more negative as the movie gets closer. i don't know, maybe if this had come out in the summer, people would have looked at it as "big, dumb, summer fun". like transformers 2.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:41:04 PM CST

    Cling trolls!

    by hatershate

    you stupid cum swigging goat fuckers. Cling to your hatred! Cliiiiiiinggggg!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:41:09 PM CST

    Oh Poor Ash

    by spacezilla

    Ash sad. Baby made pee pee in diapers. Oh poor little baby Ash, baby needs its bottle.

    Waaa baby crying baby Ash always sad. Hahaha Ash you little negative whining bitch boy. "Avatar sucks, Chinese Democracy is shit, I am a pimple faced baby googoogagaga" - says Ash the puss.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:42:16 PM CST

    What is the target audience?

    by jsscript2007

    Asked by a guy with a bullseye on the back of his head.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:45:03 PM CST

    Spacezilla

    by secretcylon

    Chinese Demcracy IS NOT a masterpiece. Appetite is a masterpiece, The Wall, Abbey Road, Master Of Puppets, Pet Sounds, Synchronicity, Disintegration, The Joshua Tree are a few examples of masterpieces. Hell, gnr LIES was better than Chinese Democracy. ANd don't get me wrong, I like it, I may actually like it better than Use Your Illusion, maybe. But no one, trust me NO ONE will ever be screaming out to hear "This I Love" or TWAT twenty years from now. No One will be hoping they play IRS. Never Ever.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:45:05 PM CST

    avatar fans`

    by ash_williams

    kinda have their heads up their asses. they cant see reality. or maybe its camerons cock in their eyes. avatar is the new Battlefield Earth.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:45:49 PM CST

    What's that? 7 for 7?! Avatar still at 100% RT Giddyup!

    by spacezilla

  • Dec 10, 2009 9:46:44 PM CST

    Ash

    by hatershate

    projects his feelings onto others and informs himself based on his "coworkers." Meanwhile, in the real world "search volume for Avatar at this stage—one week before release—is about the same as the count for Wolverine, a movie that earned $87 million on its opening weekend." Which of course doesn't take into account the high 3D premium (about 40%) and the crazy amount of buzz that's about to drop based on this premiere and the reviews. I'm picturing some commercials with some of these quotes basically saying this is the hottest shit ever to happen (hyperbole of course) but nonetheless what the early reviews have said. No, this movie will do incredibly well in worldwide box office.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:47:08 PM CST

    HatersHate

    by madeyemongo

    I'm glad you believe that you'll enjoy this movie. That itself makes it more likely that you will, so congrats, I'm sure you'll have a great experience. However. your pejorative use of "troll" in reference to my posts noting that reviews being cited on this TB as "evidence" that avatar is a masterpiece are from individuals with a checkered history in picking "good" sci-fi/fantasy films is misplaced. BTW, you have no "analysis" of the movie, since you haven't seen it yourself. You *think* you're analyzing a movie but you, like all other fans here have already made up your mind. It's called cognitive dissonance, look it up.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:50:05 PM CST

    Reliable sources report

    by jsscript2007

    "First 'Avatar' Reviews Crashing Websites; Great Buzz On James Cameron's 'Avatar'"
    "stellar reviews are pouring in"
    "it's kickass spectacular"
    "critical reaction is far above average"

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:51:27 PM CST

    secretcylon Wrong

    by spacezilla

    "NO ONE will ever be screaming out to hear "This I Love" or TWAT twenty years from now. No One will be hoping they play IRS. Never Ever." No one? Really No ONE. TWAT Fucking rules. Shit dude I'll scream for TWAT. I love that shit. Best Guitar work in GNR's entire catalog. So yea definitely not no one. If you cared you would actually go to a GN'R fan site and shit because of how wrong you are. Having said that Avatar motherfuckers. Ash why do you need so much attention? Did your daddy leave you guys when you were really young or something? Your posts always read like "Look at me look at me...please."

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:51:30 PM CST

    rotten tomatoes does not mean shit

    by ash_williams

    it is a geek site, just like this one. and geek sites exist in a bubble that is outside of reality. so, again. rotten tomatoes does not mean shit.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:53:19 PM CST

    A review that's a little different!

    by johnno

    Didn't like the story too much, or at least didn't find it very original, but still blown away! This is probably gonna be as legitimately negative as it gets.
    tinyurl.com/yhnc8lg

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:53:29 PM CST

    bullshit

    by ash_williams

    "First 'Avatar' Reviews Crashing Websites; Great Buzz On James Cameron's 'Avatar'" "stellar reviews are pouring in" "it's kickass spectacular" "critical reaction is far above average"

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:54:42 PM CST

    Brilliant marketing strategy premiering it in London, BTW...

    by burnhollywood

    As I predicted, its reception overseas was almost certain to be more positive than in the "corporate culture" US, where its anti-business message will probably generate more than a few mixed reviews...but not as mixed as they might be if the Brits weren't already on record as saying they loved it.
    Clearly, the studio is hedging on major international business. Smart bet.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:55:05 PM CST

    But Ash_Williams...

    by johnno

    A moment ago you were telling us to see all the negativity on geek sites... now that a supposedly geek site like RT is giving the film positive reviews, it's no longer valid? Which is it? Can't you at least be consistant in your idiocy?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:55:42 PM CST

    looks like revenge of the sith

    by ash_williams

    don't lie to yourself. you know it to be true.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:56:52 PM CST

    Beep Beep

    by jsscript2007

    Ash, it's like you're standing on the tracks and you've heard that some guy built a $300M train headed right for you. But, you think the guy who built the train doesn't know what he's doing and you're betting it'll come off the tracks. Right. In about seven days you're going to look like Wile E. coyote.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:56:57 PM CST

    MadEye

    by hatershate

    straw man? check. Putting words in my mouth? check. Not knowing what cognitive dissonance means? check.

    Here is what I said "Based on that, the director, and what I've seen so far I would tend to believe that I will in fact like this movie." Because I haven't seen the movie doesn't mean that I can't make rational and informed decisions on whether or not I probably will or probably will not like it. It is the same thing we all do when deciding to see the movie. For the record, cognitive dissonance occurs when one tries to reconcile two contradictory realities; one real and one imagined. The reviews would have to be negative for me to have cognitive dissonance. You on the other hand are discounting the positive reviews in order to hold on to your pre-conception that the movie must suck. That is textbook. Are we done here?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:57:33 PM CST

    Spacezilla

    by secretcylon

    I do go to GNR sites. Like I said I'm a fan and I like the album okay and I do not begrudge you your opinion. But do you really think it's as good as Appetite? This is important to me because Axl spent around 17 years making it. Radiohead have had their entire career in that timespan. I think Chinese Democracy appeals to a very, very, narrow group of super die hard axl fans which is fine by me, but I assure you that WAS NOT axl's intention. Also, I'll definitely be seeing guns if Axl works up the courage to tour the US. Go Cameron!!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:58:03 PM CST

    Johnno, learn to read.

    by ash_williams

    your comment is incomprehensible and wrong. you should actually read my posts before you comment on them. back to school, lad...

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:58:30 PM CST

    MadEyeMongo

    by miyamoto_musashi

    Couldn't the same argument that you just made against Hatershate, be made by your premature negativity or cynicism.
    Think its unlreastic for people not to have a view before seeing a movie, based on the director, the previes etc, experiences with other movies, its very natural.
    Both sides though would seem to overreact to early reviews, people who are positive are listening to so far a relatively small population, where negative people/haters are trying to find problems with the reviewers that they come across as obsessive to their beliefs. I am guilty of this as most people are
    But for me what I find worse is when you have a movie like Star Trek, or Dark Knight that has such a high critical consensus (see rottentomatoes , metacritic) and still you get haters coming out with rediculous comments about both, that really demonstrates nerd rage more than a critical mind.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:58:50 PM CST

    Ash...lol

    by hatershate

    RT a geek site he says. Facts are bullshit he says. Stupid troll is stupid.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 9:58:57 PM CST

    its a 500 million dollar train.

    by ash_williams

    and its broken. im still here.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:00:50 PM CST

    HatersHate

    by ash_williams

    arrogant: check. douchebag: check. wrong: check

    are we done here? (lame catch phrase: check)

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:01:11 PM CST

    The movie premiered in London

    by jsscript2007

    so the positive word of mouth could have an entire week to increase the hype to make for a record breaking opening weekend in North America.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:01:36 PM CST

    Oh, BURN

    by seniorspeilbergio

    This talkback is all you have isn't it? I'm so sorry for you, man. Oh, hey. Did you hear about Avatar? Apparently it fucking rocks! you heard though, right? Also, I lick your tears. Mmmmmm. Yummy.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:03:11 PM CST

    Ash_Williams - sorry you sound like a retard

    by miyamoto_musashi

    "rotten tomatoes does not mean shit
    " - if you truly don't under that site or something like metacritic, then sorry your comments really aren't of any critical value and you completely sound like a troll.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:04:22 PM CST

    Man, I'm really enjoying this...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    I bet Big Jim is too.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:04:32 PM CST

    Nice argument Ash

    by hatershate

    bravo. Very well constructed. Trollometer says 2/10.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:05:52 PM CST

    sorry, im no slave to public opinion.

    by ash_williams

    i make up my own mind. avatar looks stupid.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:06:14 PM CST

    $500 Million?

    by jsscript2007

    That's why you're regarded as a mornon. The actual production cost is much less. You don't include marketing numbers when you calculate how much it actually cost to build.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:08:04 PM CST

    That's fine Ash

    by hatershate

    don't see it. I don't give a flying fuck. But for future reference, don't project your feelings onto the world and insist that, despite all evidence to the contrary, really this movie sucks and is going to tank. It really just makes you look like a veeeerrrry retarded troll.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:08:11 PM CST

    so, how many of you have been playing

    by ash_williams

    avatar in your back yards? who wears the blue paint and taped on tail? who is the mech made out of cardboard?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:08:21 PM CST

    HatersHate

    by madeyemongo

    You and your checklists are kinda funny. No straw man here, no words in your mouth either; I'm not even sure where that comes from. Your statement re: cognitive dissonance is very telling also; you ignore the case that, should the movie actually suck (or at any rate should a significant body of opinion/reviews suggest it), it seems likely that you're primed at this point to ignore it--which was my point about CD to begin with. So good one, ignoring the potential for CD in yourself but projecting it on me. Personally, I have no pre-conception that the movie must suck--but I am suspicious given what I've seen so far, like many people. But you seem to have made up your mind, so go have a ball at avatar, you're clearly going to have a good time. As to whether we're "done here"...I'll leave that to you and your checklist.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:08:41 PM CST

    Man, these guys are getting desperete..

    by seniorspeilbergio

    I can't wait to see how they justify, it's massive opening weekend.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:08:58 PM CST

    Ash_Williams

    by generaljackcosmo

    It looks stupid *TO YOU*. That's the important part. And since you are clearly an idiot, based on countless other posts you've made, you opinion means less than nothing.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:09:12 PM CST

    "slave to public opinion"

    by miyamoto_musashi

    We are talking about critical opinion here, not public in the case of reviews, thats their job.
    Let me guess you think the world is only 6,000 years old ?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:09:41 PM CST

    so, no opinions allowed on aicn?

    by ash_williams

    negative opinions are not allowed here? since when?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:11:20 PM CST

    Ash - What the fuck is wrong with you?

    by jsscript2007

    Even if you honestly despise this movie, why the fuck are you subjecting yourself to these accurate insults. Have some dignity and call it a day. Christ. Do you like getting your ass kicked or what?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:12:03 PM CST

    massive opening weekend

    by ash_williams

    then the following weekend is a very small fraction of opening weekend because of negative word of mouth. can you say Watchmen?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:12:19 PM CST

    opinions are allowed

    by miyamoto_musashi

    but the way you dismiss things like critical reviews, rottentomatoes etc doesn't paint a good picture of a critical open mind, paints a picture of stubbornness.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:13:06 PM CST

    professional movie critic

    by ash_williams

    is an oxymoron. no such thing.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:15:26 PM CST

    i have better taste in movies

    by ash_williams

    than anyone at this site. and I am telling you that this movie is crap.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:16:51 PM CST

    Ash. Are you from a

    by jsscript2007

    really small town and an only child?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:20:25 PM CST

    Ash start talking about how good Stargate is

    by miyamoto_musashi

    then it will all start making sense.
    I really hope you are a couple of guys drinking beers and trolling. If you aren't trolling and are serious, I really hope you are sterile.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:22:26 PM CST

    MadEye

    by hatershate

    You seem like a reasonable dude unlike Ash. To be fair though, I was anticipating this movie but also very anxious that it might simply not work. I love 3d technology and Cameron, but I was honestly only somewhat looking forward to this before tonight. Again, it just seemed like he might not be able to pull this off. But I've been reading what's been coming out, and now I'm trying to lower my expectations. Honestly, I've NEVER seen reviews like this. Over and over people are saying it is simply amazing and on a different level (seen in 3d) and that the story is actually pretty decent. I keep seeing words like "amazing" "game changing" "spectacle" "the future of cinema", comparing it to the original King Kong. I mean over the top effusive reviews. So yeah, at this point I'm now trying to lower my expectations, because that can't really be true right?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:24:03 PM CST

    Watchmen... hmmmm

    by ash_williams

    did it fail because of too much blue penis? will avatar fail for the same reason?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:25:05 PM CST

    Ash do you think you're changing minds?

    by snakecharmer

    You're one of those guys who likes to pick fights online. Lame. People shouldn't waste their time with you because you'll never give this film a chance.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:26:51 PM CST

    i really wanted to like star gate

    by ash_williams

    the movie. but, ultimately it was weak. i still try to watch it once and a while. and its still week. hhhmmm. big budget epic sized scifi movie that ultimately lets you down? sounds familiar...

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  • One minute you're pointing out all the supposed 'negativity' on talkback posts for the film (50% of the negativity being posts by youyou). Talkbacks being AICN, a geek website. Then you see RT giving out positive reviews. Then you label RT a geek website so as to discredit it. Which cotradicts your opinion earlier. You say if the geeks don't care then the film is doomed, then later you say you have no idea who Cameron is making this film for... You're all over the place. You don't even know what you're saying anymore. You're either that stupid or you're trolling because you have nothing better to do.
    So maybe take some self help books on how to think ahead, so as to not contradict yourself! But clearly reading comprehension is not one of your strong points. And for that matter, neither is thinking...

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:28:42 PM CST

    i wanted to like avatar

    by ash_williams

    until i started seeing more and more of the trailors. then i felt let down from all the hype.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:31:00 PM CST

    Johnno, wrong.

    by ash_williams

    once again. learn to read. you misquoted me horribly and your argument makes no sense. sorry. try again.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:31:17 PM CST

    Worthington signed for 3x Avatar films..

    by quantize

    Cool news, depending if the first film is good (im still hopeful despite Horner's saccharine cliched pan flutes in the Na'vi clip i saw)

    Worthington has signed for 3 x Avatar films..not sure if that's been mentioned yet..remove the space..

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/film/unnatural-selection/2009/12/10/1260034328529. html?page=3

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:35:24 PM CST

    look, look. the point is...

    by ash_williams

    that I am the ultimate geek! me!

    i am stoned. eating pizza. and making avatar fans cry on aint it cool news.

    avatar is going to bomb. suck it, bitches!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:38:40 PM CST

    Ash_Williams

    by generaljackcosmo

    Well, now it is confirmed: you are a loser. You're stoned, and you're wasting your pot by trolling an internet forum? Go do something...watch something...listen to something. Jesus, what a fucking waste. Hopefully it's just shit from some ghetto brick.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:41:01 PM CST

    HatersHate

    by madeyemongo

    Actually, I'm quite sure that the reviews are correct re: the technological implications for movies going forward; I suspect this movie will be viewed as "game changing" in the same way that Jurassic Park was, by introducing a level of "realistic" cgi that people hadn't seen before. JP held the box office record for a fair while too. Of course...looking at JP in retrospect, it has its moments but (I think) as a movie and a story it doesn't hold up over time and/or repeated viewings. For me, I'm skeptical of avatar's seemingly tired plot line, but I have no doubt the technology it's introducing will have a major impact on how future movies (blockbusters at least) are made. I thought George Lucas said the biggest constraint for him in making the movies he wanted to make was having to deal with actors, and he wanted to get to the point where he could simply animate whatever he wanted. Well, he may be getting his wish.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:52:36 PM CST

    I agree MadEye

    by hatershate

    at least partially. I don't think the reviews were to the same level even for jurassic park. And truly great CGI/3D in a blockbuster might move the ball forward in a way that CG alone does not. For example T2/Abyss had amazing CG even before JP. I don't doubt that Avatar probably will not hold up over time. Just like the orginal King Kong does not (I'm sorry it just doesn't.. technology matters.) But I think your comparison to JP might be apt. I remember sitting in the theater being amazed. I think with such an immersive 3D experience Avatar could be an even greater *experience*. As I said, I happen to be a fan of 3D for the right movies. In that sense, I'm thinking the movie might not be eternal or important in the way a Kubrick movie is, but I'm also thinking I just might have the best time I've had sitting in a big theater in long, long time. I hope so. The reviews have got me stoked, because they seem to be saying what I hoped for in my wildest dreams: story actually pretty engaging and draws you in and the technology immerses you in a very special movie going experience.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 10:59:54 PM CST

    Ash Williams/Nerd Rage Retard Cunt

    by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave

    Looks like your vain hopes of Avatar bombing are going about as limp as your tiny dick in the presence of a woman.You know what? I think I was wrong about my predictions concernign Avatar's box office gross. I don't think Avatar will make $700 m domestic/$1.5 b worldwide anymore. I actually think it will now be the first movie to crack $1 billion domestic and $2 billion worldwide! Zing!! and Ker-ching!!

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:08:25 PM CST

    I don't agree with the JP comparisons

    by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave

    in that Avatar will be a technical marvel that will probably not hold up over time. JP wasn't even that satisfying when it came out - it had a few great set pieces, but it was clearly a rushed affair, with Spielberg hurrying the production so he could get cracking on Schindler's list. And it began the trend of Spielberg ending his films weakly, with that random ending where they just drive off. Also, very bland characters for the most part. Compare that to T2 a few years earlier, which was a satisfying and complete movie quite apart from the groundbreaking FX, with rock solid structure and characters. Ditto The Abyss, which holds up the best out of all the summer blockbusters of 89, even though it ws the least successful at the time. I think Avatar will be no different - typically Cameronian solid and timeless storytelling coupled with stunning effects. It will still work as an emotional tale and a killer action movie long after its tech lustre has faded, same as T2.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:13:36 PM CST

    I don't know Turd

    by hatershate

    I can't picture a scenario where this cracks $1 billion domestic. That's crazy talk. BUT $1.5-2 billion worldwide total could happen. I mean shit, the new Ice Age banked nearly $700 million foreign based mostly on the strength of 3D. Avatar very well could do twice that business or more.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:17:36 PM CST

    Maybe turd

    by hatershate

    but both T2 and the Abyss are almost entirely not CG. Avatar is all CG. I fully expect that it will look silly in 5 or 10 or 20 years. That's just the nature of things. But based on these reviews I'm hoping for an incredible movie going experience. I dont particularly care if it holds up to a viewing at home 10 years later, to be honest.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:19:31 PM CST

    In a world where Transformers 2 grossed over

    by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave

    $400m, I see no reason why a genuine event movie like Avatar should not vastly exceed it. If you take Titanic's gross and adjust for inflation, it would be around $900m+. Well, I expect Avatar to beat Titanic. And given the higher premiums of 3D and IMAX tickets (coupled with an unusually long IMAX run), I say it's do-able. There may very well be IMAX 3D re-releases annually for the next few years (until 3D becomes a home theater staple) as well.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:21:24 PM CST

    2012 did over 600 million worldwide.

    by snakecharmer

    I trust Cameron over that shit director any day.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:25:54 PM CST

    Evolution - why things look good at the moment and..

    by snakecharmer

    after time they look out dated. It means things have improved.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:25:59 PM CST

    HatersHate,that may be true

    by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave

    However, how much better can CG get? I'm sure it will improve even further with ever more detailed mo-cap work and Cameron's plans to increase the frame rate to 48fps in his future movies (thus making animation even more fluid and natural). But if something is on the cusp of photo-realism or crosses the uncanny valley already, then it may just be a difference by degrees. Can you get more real than real? Is there a point where the eye simply can't perceive any more realism/detail and just plateaus out?

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:32:17 PM CST

    Yes you can get much better

    by hatershate

    we are not even close to *truly* photo real yet IMO. Don't get me wrong, some of the tight shots in this with the right lighting look absolutely mind blowing. BUT those well lit wide shots are instantly, immediately processed to my brain as CG. This movie will get dated, but like I said... i don't really care.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:39:41 PM CST

    Turd Has Risen

    by jsscript2007

    You ask a great question in regards to "Can you get more real than real?" I think you can, when you look back to the evolution of comic book art. Remember when the characters/heroes in the late 70's were all drawn life like, with detailed muscles, etc and then it evolved into a newer style, especially with the Hulk, where his image seemed more like an extension of his personality, than an anatomically correct being. CG might allow for that sort of evolution with human/cg character growth.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:42:19 PM CST

    Did you see The Avatar Day footage?

    by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave

    The effects in many of the scenes cannot be properly judged on a computer monitor but must be seen on a large screen and preferably in 3D, which tricks the eye even further (though it should look good in 2D also). Bear in mind that I'm not just talking about the na'vi here, but also the jungle environments/water, all of which are absolutely photoreal. Not to mention the CGI humans lie many close up shots of Colonel Quaritch in his amp suit (yes, they are entirely CG). Many of the shots in the released featurettes and trailers have also been unfinished. The true litmus test will be the final film, though.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:48:24 PM CST

    jsscript2007

    by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave

    I could see that stylized evolution possibly coming into play with Battle Angel, should it ever get made, since it features a synthetic human girl who changes bodies across the span of the story that reflect her growth and personality.

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  • Dec 10, 2009 11:52:11 PM CST

    Yeah,

    by hatershate

    but I just tend to think we're not at the end of history on anything. B/c our frame of reference is only very, very good CG, we can't know what we'll think when 100% photo real is around. The difference might objectively seem slight, but to some kid born 20 years from now, this movie will look like a cartoon. Moving forward, people will not be accustomed to anything looking less than 100% real. That's why this movie will get dated. But that's all in the future and my eyeballs will get fucked next week.

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  • Dec 11, 2009 12:17:52 AM CST

    You guys are being played like a Violin by Ash

    by spacezilla

    He is just trying to push buttons. You are probably helping him fill some kind of fucking parasitic ego where he thinks he needs to suck off other people. He is a loser. a Zero point Zero. He doesn't think Avatar sucks. He is just trying to fuck with everyone. There is no way is as Dee Dee Dee retarded as he seems.

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  • Dec 11, 2009 12:21:53 AM CST

    HatersHate

    by spacezilla

    "Moving forward, people will not be accustomed to anything looking less than 100% real. That's why this movie will get dated. But that's all in the future and my eyeballs will get fucked next week."
    The Dinos in JP 1 still look damn good. Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast still looks damn good. My point. Its all in the execution.

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  • A new bar is set and someone else will have to jump it..It's a good thing when this kind of hype is met with someone who can back it up.
    James Cameron should be proud for what seems to be a gamble that paid off with his vision..I saw the 16 mins. in 3-d at a liemax showing twice and I knew after seeing what I did that we were in for something special..I can't wait to see this next week in it's entirety..A shout out to all the people who kept the faith on this and Turd , Ominus, Hatershate, see you guys in line..

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  • Dec 11, 2009 1:27:53 AM CST

    Looks like the first review for Avatar is in! One Word!

    by ganymede3001

    SPECTACULAR. The review claims that it's better than anything Cameron has ever done.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/avatar-film-review-1004052868.story

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  • Dec 11, 2009 1:29:14 AM CST

    spacezilla....sorry, dude ash really is that

    by southafricanguy

    retarded. You should have seen his emotional outburst/rant in the other talkback where he is proud of liking T4 and Gijoe, thinks JJ Abrahms is the new Spielberg, Cameron is Hack (he still does nt understand what the word means), and that Sommers, Mcg etc...are all better than Cameron. It was a truly spectacular moment of showing what a complete mental patient he is....

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  • Dec 11, 2009 1:30:16 AM CST

    And that he truly knows fuckall about film.....

    by southafricanguy

  • Dec 11, 2009 1:33:15 AM CST

    Oh how it must piss him and all the other

    by southafricanguy

    Devin/farci/chud acolytes off that its getting such good reviews and amazing reactions from people.....lol

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  • Dec 11, 2009 1:34:21 AM CST

    Cant wait to see how these arrogant assholes

    by southafricanguy

    who have been predicting this films fasilure for months are going to try and spin this now....

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  • Dec 11, 2009 12:09:51 PM CST

    "...I lick your balls. Mmmmmm. Yummy."

    by burnhollywood

    Anybody here know how to shake a gay stalker without resorting to violence? seniorspeilbergio has become a little attached to me (or, should I say, WOULD LIKE his mouth to become attached to me) and has become quite the pest. Worse, a good beating would probably just turn him on...

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  • Dec 11, 2009 12:35:52 PM CST

    Burn

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Dude, your right. I am attatched to you. I find your moronic imaturity and blatant denial of facts absolutely fascinating. It's like the fat lady at the beach. It's a fucking frightening sight but you just can't turn away from the trainwreck. So yeah, my man. Stick around. We gonna be pals. Avatar opens real soon, Burney. We gonna have us some fun. :)

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  • Dec 11, 2009 12:44:51 PM CST

    Southafricanguy..

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Well, one things for sure. It's going to be damn entertaining. So sit back and enjoy. It's like the preshow before the main event.

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  • Dec 11, 2009 1:13:28 PM CST

    seniorspeilbergio

    by burnhollywood

    So, you're openly stating that you're going to stalk me? Is that it?
    Bring it on, bitch. :-D

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  • Dec 11, 2009 1:29:28 PM CST

    Little Burney...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Hey, man. Did you see those reviews? Pretty great, huh? I mean, you read them right?

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  • Dec 11, 2009 1:30:03 PM CST

    Oh look..

    by seniorspeilbergio

    You made a little smiley fice just like me. cool.

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  • Dec 11, 2009 1:30:38 PM CST

    face i mean

    by seniorspeilbergio

  • Dec 11, 2009 1:34:00 PM CST

    I like the face though...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    It has an open mouth. That's just how i want you Burney. On your knees of course, while I watch that KICK ASS AVATAR MOVIE.

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  • Dec 11, 2009 8:12:03 PM CST

    Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength was right

    by ash_williams

    avatar = 500 million dollar flop.

    cameron = michael bay

    hahahahaaahahahahaah!!! flop.

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  • Dec 11, 2009 8:14:05 PM CST

    FLOP

    by ash_williams

    it is official. no one gives a fuck about avatar.

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  • Dec 11, 2009 8:21:14 PM CST

    i think this movie failed

    by ash_williams

    because of the navi corn rows. thats so, 80's. lame.

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