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You Wanna Hear Leona Lewis' AVATAR Song? It's Here!!
Merrick here...
Leona Lewis' song from AVATAR is making its way onto The Nets, and can be heard via the embed below.
As with previous James Horner megasongs ("My Heart Will Go On" in TITANIC, for example), you'll hear melody lines from this tune utilized throughout the film's actual score.
Horner's AVATAR score CD is already up for pre-order HERE
. It releases on December 15.
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It sucks, the video game sucks and guess what? The movie is going to suck too.
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and LL on acid
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Looks like I picked the wrong choice between the double posts of this article to make a comment on...oh well, in summation: At least its not Celine Dion. Titanic good, song bad. This song sappy crap. Hope movie great.
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yet another hate filled AVATAR talkback, i think i will give this one a break as i felt like killing myself yesterday after reading all the depressing negative crap in the other thread.
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. . . and your cocaine tongue, you get nothin' done . . . .
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...that's utter shite!
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Is going to be a fun talkback.
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you know how titanic was classic horner, but upon repeat viewings all you can hear is that god aweful song diddling in the background? It inevitable it will happen with Avatar.... but now because of this it's going to be all ayone hears - myself included - while watching. i must.... resist.... urge.... to listen........ urgh!!!!!!
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Wah-wah pedal of our time or caps lock of the music world? Discuss.
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Hot chick, but do they have top 40 on other planets?
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Mind-blowing game-changer epic masterpiece photo-real will change the way you listen to music forever!!!
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... the composition isn't terrible, but the vocal arrangement and the singer? Peee-U!
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Gold.
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Apologize for this travesty.
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I have to say that the song itself is treacly and pretty run of the mill. But I gotta admit that Horner's melody is pretty moving and should be great along with the film as stand alone score music. They gotta bring in the teenage girls, I guess...
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Are those French Horns? This sounds like a huge 80's end credits love theme with a dash of Brian Eno. I'm liking it even with the cheesy lyrics. It's already stuck in my head.
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Remember, your apparent IQ to other talkbackers drops by fifteen points every time you compare them to Avatar.
That said, I wasn't impressed by this song; but it's not for us, it's for the girls in the audience. Leona Lewis was also tapped for FF13, and her song there was better... There's a big push behind this lady. -
video review
http://tinyurl.com/ydwavjo
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can def hear some good horner in there.... but damn this song sucks. can still hear all the James Newton Howard Atlantis influences. Amazing that Horner says he had to re-learn how to score for this film...... JNH always struck me as being a JH emulator.... Horner was obviously impressed with the guy. same thing happened with jerry godsmith and JNH as well. i miss Jerry goldsmith. (sniff)
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well someone had to say it.
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I've got the "Alien" soundtrack on vinyl. I know what you mean. The king is dead, long live the king.
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Dec 08, 2009 1:40:34 PM CST
BendersShinyAss, I ALSO MISS GOLDSMITH TERRIBLY.....
by tehcreepythinman
He was my second favorite composer after Bernard Herrmann. Howard Shore is number 3.
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Looks like he's really developing as a Director. HAHAHAHAHA. This fucking clown only has a handful of tricks like the dog that he is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNScRM_NzLI
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I hope AVATAR fucking bombs! - As the soundtrack does.
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Dec 08, 2009 1:50:08 PM CST
Simon Cowell has already bought the polish for Leona's oscar.
by scriptgirl_nipples
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Spent just a LITTLE too much time underwater hunting the real Titantic, didn't you, Cameron?
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Dec 08, 2009 1:52:33 PM CST
NO WONDER THAT PERSON PUNCHED HER IN THE FUCKING FACE!!!
by tehcreepythinman
The slag sounds like a fucking cat being fed legs first into a blender.
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This is pretty mediocre, but at least it's better than her song for Final Fantasy XIII.
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Dec 08, 2009 1:55:53 PM CST
..."There is an impaler - male, Carpathian, possibly armed...
by flickapoo
...certainly weird - in my kitchen"
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Dec 08, 2009 1:57:13 PM CST
..."There is an impaler - male, Carpathian, possibly armed...
by flickapoo
...certainly weird - in my kitchen"
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I know the film will be great, but the song is pure pish....
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are going to be raped by this movie. How true that turning out to be. I can't wait to stampede to the exit to escape this song. Thanks for the warning Cameron.
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Yup, it's a great melody. Going to be an epic score.
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Dec 08, 2009 2:11:42 PM CST
CAMERON SHOULD'VE WENT WITH 'BITCHES AIN'T SHIT' BY BEN FOLDS!!!
by tehcreepythinman
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L O LLLLL teeheeheeheeeeee
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Fear not for I am here. THE COWBELL HAS SPOKEN.
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But it only plays during the end credits so whatev's. What's more important really is that Square Enix changes their mind about using her CD single instead of the original written Japanese song for the Western release of Final Fantasy XIII.
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at the end of the movie. Clearly this was posted as a warning, right? Honestly, I can hear my late mom saying "ooh, what a pretty song, dear". Was she the audience for this film? Hell, no! Then why, in the name of unholy rump-biting hedgepigs do they think this song will sell to sci-fi fans? In hell, Celine Dion is piped into the caverns in an endless loop, as will this shopping-mall-friendly tripe be heard in all the scented-candle and designer tea boutiques across America, and in all the Asian karaoke bars for the next decade. Glad I'm going deaf as I age.
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Nice with the GnR lyrics, broheim. :)
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Dec 08, 2009 2:44:07 PM CST
Greatly anticipating the flick, but that song is just fucking te
by hufu man
Seriously. You can tell they were really trying to recapture Dion's whole "My Heart Will Go On" thing, but it's just fucking agonizing.
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An AICN talkback isn't going to be filled with the target audience for this music anyway, but the Titanic song had a recognizable hook to it that made it catchy enough to take off. This one never wakes up or goes anywhere. Nobody's sister or mom is going to be calling up their radio station asking them to play it again.
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God, this song is beyond awful!! It's fucking horrible!! Mega hack James Horner strikes again! Why, Cameron, why?
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This is the problem when you've been working on a film for so long. Only the special effects evolve.
JC said he was waiting for technology to catch up before he could make it. Well, the technology caught up but it left the story, dialogue, and even this song behind. -
1 great album! thats it! use your illusion 1 and 2 are the most bloated pieces of crap ever and that bob dylan cover was laughably retarded and the phone call part was worse than axl getting drunk and full himself and kicking everyone out the band and getting a new hairstyle! their cover album was fucking garbage! fuck guns n roses! ahem...so yea...i showed tehm.
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Have any of your ladies expressed any interest in Avatar? Every movie-douche I knew (myself included) thought Titanic would tank, as we didn't consider the fem-dollar. The avatar trailers I've viewed with wifey, she rolls her eyes and says 'that looks terrible.'
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of what I initially heard, it sounded like the same fantasy jungle sing songy crap that gets churned out for every fantasy off-world movie. John Williams did it at the end of RotJ and again in TPM. I mean, when you have a movie like this beating you over the head trying to convey a sense of wonderment and unearthly fern-gully like peace and harmony crap it makes it even harder to suspend your disbelief. LOTR did it well by having a dark and ominous score that subtly suggested that all was not well. This kinda shit can really ruin a movie for me.
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She must really bleeeeed love, when fucked proper, i suppose... But her voice terrorizeth professional fucking ears. Yet her lips and face... I would awwwinserttourettevomithere!!
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Horrrrrrrible taste in music.
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a muñeca de hule, that can roll it's eyes, top-o-the line model you got there mate.
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this confirmed my suspicions... james cameron actually died after true lies and has been replaced with a double... it explains titanic and it explains this garbage hes pimping
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i actually like leonna lewis, but this crap sounds almost identical to that crap from titanic... ugh
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but what explains you...a broken rubber! signed: your friend
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Is that Celine Dion is not doing a cameo.
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Star Trek: Enterprise, anyone? WTF?
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...does anybody else lurve David Shire's 2010 soundtrack?
I remember a friend and myself driving through a Kansas cemetery, totally secluded by a valley, on an overcast day, throwing that cassette tape in, after smoking some weeed, and about losing our shit.......sure, off-topic, but man did that scare the shit out of us. -
--in a good way. Maybe it's a return to the non-cynical wonder of 80s fantasy.
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Because his post gave me a genuine laugh out loud splutter, whilst being particularly on the button:
"This is the problem when you've been working on a film for so long. Only the special effects evolve. JC said he was waiting for technology to catch up before he could make it. Well, the technology caught up but it left the story, dialogue, and even this song behind." -
Can't wait till the next Comic-Con/Anime Expo...they always have Karaoke somewhere; every fat girl in Na'vi blue body paint and ears (and there will be a herd of them) will be wailing this piece of shit ad nauseum. Comedy Fucking Gold...
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There. Nailed it.
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This is gonna be another of those hugely popular movies that I fucking hate isn't it? Catering for the dumbest section of the lowest possible denominator. Popular doesn't necessarily equate with quality - if you've any doubts look at every damn 'boy-band' album that's dominated the charts for the last 10 years. This sucks, Titanic sucked, Cameron sucks (though he didn't a few decades ago).
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If they redid the Neverending Story in IMAX 3D, well, that would be something to get excited about. Especially with that giant flying dog. I can only assume someone will remember his name and post it here faster than I can say "Avatar is going to be disappointing." Cameron should have remade that 80s classic, flying dog and all, with this new technology, instead of making a film that is 40% Jar Jar Binks, 30% Smurfs, 10% Thundercats-without-the-cool, and 10% Awful.
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Ha! I showed him!
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Fucking sick of youtube taking EVERYTHING down that isn't some douchebag's home movie.
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and you sucked cameron, what's your point? signed: your friend
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Avatar is also some douchebag's home movie. It just happened to cost 'em $300 million.
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wins the web
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Good one!
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He has directed one great movie, Aliens, several meh movies, and one steaming ball of unrighteous turdness that happened to hit a certain demographic right between their prepubescent ovaries and so made a buttload of money. Does anyone really expect anything decent to come from this man at this point in his career?
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Yes, some people expect something decent.
In fact, I think I expect something 1/4 decent......1/4
Too many, though, expect something 1/1 decent, indeed, 1/1 FUCKINGAMAZING from this movie.
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just think about that friends..a fucking pop music/Vegas review style Theme song. When is the last time you liked a film that had as it's musical focus and driving force a Love song sung by a pop diva? Discuss...
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Kontarsky - thanks! And johnnyangel - You have to admit T2 was out of control awesome, and that liquid metal terminator was visually orgasmic at the time. But Titanic was also amazing. Captivating and exciting and just overall great. However, I don't see why this film needs to follow in it's footsteps with a lame ass song that has nothing to do with the film. I haven't actually heard it yet, but I don't see how any kind of non-instrumental song fits into this picture.
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Finally, a copyright claim I support.
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wins over Salute since Salute didn't thank me and since Yack said something cool.
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what a horrible decision on her part to take on this ?song?... what a shame
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when my missus saw the trailer she said "reminds of that character in the new star wars everyone hates, except they made a whole film out of it"
fortunately my wife has taste!
face it writers, directors get old, they get soft, they get sentimental, lucas, spielberg, and cameron, its titanic all over again with this theme song- it proves hes covering all the family friendly bases, unobtanium and ripleys pseudo-science exposition voiceover dumbing down to the level that your average x-factor viewer can understand it. -
At least "My Heart Will Go On", as cloying as it was, was catchy. This is just tedious and unnecessary. Of course, ten months of the Heart permeating the airwaves was unnecessary to.
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I agree with your sentiment regarding Lucas, Cameron, et al.
However....I think it's a sad thing that the stuff that people like us tend to flock toward is the "cutting edge" style of nerd-filmmaking. Regardless of that, I don't want to see blue elves and jar-jars...so perhaps there is a middle-ground?
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This movie definitely makes me think of Chinese Democracy. Weird, bloated, strange, excessive, too many overdubs, yet I'm still looking forward to it. They should have used a song from Chinese Democracy for this.
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Sorry, but I'm probably in the minority that was not impressed with T2 and the liquid Terminator. I did not like "nice-guy" Terminator Arnie. He was so much more awesome and cooler as the evil Terminator in T1, and I could not wrap my head around the physics of the liquid Terminator, although it may be absurd to be worried about physics in a movie about time travelling cyborgs. Also, SaluteYourShorts, what's the other 10%? 40+30+10+10=90.
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I guess I'm saying that the stuff that Lucas/Spielberg love (Kurosawa,Kubrick,Herzog) has fallen off the face of what is actually being put out there, and I guess my first impression is that the $ is involved...and it's sad. Good filmmaking can be done without demographic info as its compass.
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"James Cameron is a hack." Hilarious stuff, guys. How old are you?
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clearly NOT a hack.
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at a certain point in his career he became more enamored with special effects than story telling.
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Dec 08, 2009 4:28:16 PM CST
darth_aig, true but unfortunately marketing it to the demo
by blakindigo
is near impossible at the costs involved. Shame.
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Yeah, lots of substance or evidence for that argument. Don't confuse amount of fx for more interest in fx over story. Cameron has never been guilty of this. Everything visual in Avatar will support the story, guaranteed. And anyone calling Cameron a 'hack' (a term liberally tossed around without any apparent understanding of its meaning), or a studio shill, is a mouth breathing retard and knows little of the man and his ways.Re-commence hating, you fucking inbreds. Just over a week to go, and then you can all move on.
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Avatar=Dancing with Smurfs.
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I guess I call Cameron a hack because I find his work crude. And I further describe him as a studio hack because I feel his projects are selected for their commercial potential without any sense of creativity or originality.
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cause none of his past movies had an ounce of creativity in them. Definitely not T2 /sarcasm. I guess whenever a movie director makes a commercially successful movie he automatically becomes a hack :P
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Just doesn't buy you what it used to these days. I remember when I was growing up, movies only cost a meager 100 million dollars to make. You kids now a days got no understanding of money.
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Unfortunately, that is probably usually true.
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Every night in my dreams
I see you. I feel you.
That is how I know you go on.
Far across the distance
And spaces between us
You have come to show you go on.
Near, far, wherever you are
I believe that the heart does go on
Once more you open the door
And you're here in my heart
And my heart will go on and on
Ok you get the joke
Love can touch us one time
And last for a lifetime
And never go till we're one
Love was when I loved you
One true time I hold to
In my life we'll always go on
Near, far, wherever you are
I believe that the heart does go on
Once more you open the door
And you're here in my heart
And my heart will go on and on
There is some love that will not
go away
You're here, there's nothing I fear,
And I know that my heart will go on
We'll stay forever this way
You are safe in my heart
And my heart will go on and on
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Cameron that in the past 12 years, cd's no longer are released, they are dropped. Guy needs to get with the times.
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Dec 08, 2009 5:02:27 PM CST
Your personal opinion of Cameron's work is irrelevant
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
There is no doubt that Cameron exudes passion for his projects. He's not particularly interested in money - he forfeited his salary for Titanic and has been finaning much of Avatar's additional shooting and FX work out of his own pocket.Titanic was selected for its commercial potential? Wrong - it was clearly a labor of love for him, and was widely regarded as commercial suicide, being an unfashionable 3 hour romance and one where everyone knew the ending. It was expected to tank. Cameron could quite easily have signed on for a money-making T3 or True Lies 2, but choe not to-in fact, one of the reasons he turned down T3 was that Mario Kassar owned the rights and insisted on a set release,; Cameron told him he would only do it if he was given enough time to do the movie properly. He wanted to do Titanic instead. But of course, subsequent massive success changes everything - particularly among preening, uppity fools.Avatar, too, is a massive gamble, one that'll pay off, but it has a look and feel that could alienate viewers. Never the less, Cameron made it HIS way, everyone else be damned. the studio told him not to make the characters be blue, or give them tails. Cameron told them no. Just like he told the studio and producers that he was going to walk during Aliens when Sigourney Weaver was unavailable, and the studio wanted to proceed without her. He waited 12 years so that the technology and the exhibition standards were available to make Avatar the way he wanted. He makes films his way, not for studios and not for money.Whether you want to look down your nose at his 'crudeness' for making mainstream, accesible entertainment is largely redundant. To decry him for making projetcs with no 'creativity' or 'originality' (a red herring used by those who have not read or studied widely)is completely asinine. Cameron is no hack - utter, utter stupidity, and transparent and laughable snobbery.
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That fucking seals it, thank you talkbackers. Because if this is true, Avatar will be the greatest movie ever made and true masterpiece. Chinese Democracy might have haters but, the album in all honesty is absolute perfection. I can't wait for Avatar. You don't like it "I'm Sorry For You!"
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Because it sucks... get it? *crickets*
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Right on, 'nuff said.
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and I'm not the biggest GnR fan, but Axl's voice is stunning…
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better than either UYI alone (although if you took away the filler and combined them into one, that would be a different story).
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It is as phony as her Sacchrin Whitney Houston voice, which is Sacchrin to begin with. James Cameron is just developng a thing for black chicks--but I can't balme him!!!
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That shit was Hi-Larious.The long lay off is going to bite Jim "fist of fury, fuck a mouthy bitch up" Cameron right in his ass, just like it did to the Neck.
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I totally agree with this. Chinese Democracy, I thought for sure would be lame and suck, and it continues to amaze me. I actually can't go very long before needing to hear it again. I feel I need to say something like its the best GN'R since Appetite, but the truth is I think its one of the greatest albums ever made alongside one of the Beatles. I almost didn't want to like it at first maybe like some here with Avatar? But the album is just really personal to me know in ways I can't really explain. I think in time it will get its proper dues.
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The Nine Inch Nails or Depeche Mode would have been far better choices for this, but it is clear that Cameron and company are trying to lure the female audience with Titanic-lite music.
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Guns & Roses is just Punks & Posers without Slash. He is the band, period!!!
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I have to agree with, and admire, with your infomed assessment of Cameron's career and artistic integrity - but still, that song was pretty lame. I've listened to it twice now, and am still unable to recall the tune. Anyway, song aside, I have the highest hopes (and, for good or bad, expectations) for this movie.
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James Cameron may be spending a bazillion hours studying the latest computer topography programs and other uber-geeky techno crap to make his movie feel more "realistic" but I think (like Lucas before him) he has lost touch with actually making a coherent movie with believable characters and a compelling story.
The thing I was most surprised about when I saw lots of "extended" scenes and trailers was how unoriginal so many of the shots and looks were.
A bunch of people staring, mouths agape, at the splendor of their new jungle/alien environment (see Jurassic Park, Lost World, etc.)
Tough as nails marines hired by a greedy corporate monolithic institution, to kick ass against an alien threat (see Aliens, Starship Troopers)
"Amazing" aerial and land battles with fantastic creatures, flying dragon like aliens, weird CGI creations and vast armies going up against other vast armies (see Star Wars Prequels, LOTR, Matrix sequels)
The hardened military leaders spouting cliche military commands like "You're not in Kansas anymore" or "You should see your faces, hee hee" (see every Hollywood military cliche scene in just about every military movie ever made)
On the planet Pandora, the evil corporate/government agency is mining the precious mineral Unobtanium which is ridiculously lame in and of itself, and this mineral is the key to the agency's economic future so they must defend it (see Total Recall)
You get the point. I hate to hate on this thing since I haven't seen it yet, but having followed and read the hype on this thing for over a year, I feel so underwhelmed at this point. -
Chinese Democracy - Rocks. That album is so under rated. The guitar playing of Buckethead and Robin Finck is mind blowing. Go Axl. One of the few uncomprised artists out there.
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The song sucks.
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I like it okay. Don't you guys think the songs are all a little too long? Isn't "This I Love" the worst song ever?? Aren't there way too many guitar solos playing under the vocals? Don't get me wrong, I love a lot of the songs on the album but "This I Love" and "Sorry" are terrible. My wife heard "The Blues" I mean, "Street of Dreams" and started laughing. I like the album, but it's pretty ridiculous and certainly not worth 15-17 years of development.
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if this is any indication of the movie, then avatar is going to be a big steaming pile of shit.
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Giving these idiots a place to put there moronic comments is a bad idea
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Dec 08, 2009 6:58:30 PM CST
^^ Learn how to spell "their" before you start calling other peo
by fa_tass_dinomolester
IDIOT!
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he sucks and he cant remember how to make a good movie. this movie has to do as well as titanic to make its money back. that will never happen
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Dec 08, 2009 7:14:31 PM CST
I don't usually bitch and moan about AICN's choice of stories, b
by royston lodge
... this gets an article but the Family Guy: Empire Strikes Back trailer doesn't?
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Dec 08, 2009 7:17:56 PM CST
Just when I thought my anticipation for this movie couldn't get
by sagart1994
along comes this.
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He's a fucking sellout. Leona Lewis. For the love of fucksake. Fucking housewife music.
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i am embarrassed for james cameron
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Flashbacks of "Faith of the Heart" from Enterprise ... yuck. Yeah I know, female demographic and all that.
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Jake enters his avatar world ... Becoming one of "The People" Becoming one with Neytiri ... Jake's first flight ... Scorched earth... The destruction of Hometree ... Shutting down Grace's lab ... Gathering all the Na'vi clans for battle ... War ... !
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...was by all indicators (except sales, oddly enough) better than it had any right to be. Chuck Klosterman's review in The Onion pretty much summed it up, imho. (And I'm generally annoyed by Klosterman.)
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Since Titanic I guess. I don't remember the Aliens love song or Terminator love song. Remember the Abyss love song? The Underwater depths of my soul. Yeah I don't remember it either.
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A forbidden romance.
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in glorious blue nakedness
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because james cameron is a lazy writer. and he is very un original.
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avatar sucks!
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It was the hit of 1986! The single went double-platinum!!! It was in Xenomorphese, and consisted mostly of hissing and screeching while smart-guns fired in the background.
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And I loathe this movie: the Na'vi don't speak English. Cameron hired a linguist to create a language for the Na'vi, (which sucks), and only a couple of the characters can speak English, (those who've been taught it by the Humans).
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it is fucking horrible! avatar is going to blow.
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Here's a working link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GMTQBriA3I
I think this song is just as solid as My Heart Will Go On...it plays to the masses as opposed to only sci-fi buffs. It's not my cup of tea, but it fits who Cameron is, a pop culture director who knows how to makes films for everyone. He's no Ridley Scott or Lars Von Trier....give em' a break. -
What was the last really GOOD movie he made? Gladiator? Kingdom of Heaven was grim and depressing post-LOTR "swords and spears" stuff. Black Hawk Down would have been better served by a cohesive plot. Here's hoping Ridley's return to the scene of his first triumph, Alien, will restore him to his former glory!
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Dec 08, 2009 8:56:25 PM CST
Man on fire!!! Or was that his brother?
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
Ridley or tony, I don't give a fuck, I love that movie. Only flaw? dialouge printed on the screen. WTF? Did you not think people could follow the story?
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Gonna buy my tickets tomorrow.
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Except maybe in the metaphorical sense that it may well go down like said boat. But the song still doesn't fit the images we've seen so far.
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Like he did to Elliott Smith
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THE MAN IS IN FRONT OF HIS MONITOR WITH A SINGLE TEAR ROLLING DOWN HIS CHEEK. I HOPE YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF, INTERNET.
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right now he is sitting at his computer drinking a Chimay and laughing his ass off reading this shit. Later he'll put on this HORRIBLE FUCKING SONG and go rape his custom Real Doll in the likeness of Linda Hamilton while Suzy Amis piston fucks up the ass with a strap on made out of hundred dollar bills left over from the kickback he got from the Catering Co. during the Titanic shoot.
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My mistake, carry on, internet.
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i still believe he is owed a flogging for 'celine dear-god-no deon'
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Dec 08, 2009 11:41:27 PM CST
There are NO bad songs on Chinese Democracy/Avatar 3D question
by spacezilla
Just depends on your mood. This I love is a showcase for Axl's voice and I like how intimate it is. No song runs too long at all. I love how the songs have like breathing room. The arrangements are just really complex. The song Sorry is fucking great. You are fucking craaazay. I love how it sounds almost like an old Sabbath track. And when I am high on Cali's finest If the World is just too tripped out and cool. Anyone have a guess what presentation would be better between seeing Avatar on a big IMAX or seeing it at a Muvico (You know the high end VIP seating theater. IMAX is of course IMAX 3D and Muvico is using the Real3D.
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Probably depend on screen size. I believe true IMAX is around 70' X 70', if the Muvico is smaller, maybe get a seat a little closer.
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Dec 09, 2009 12:33:18 AM CST
Why the Na'vi are blue. Cameron is making a statement about race
by johnno
"Jim, what inspired you to make the Na'vi blue?" asked Sarah T., one of the many moviegoers who logged on to MTV.com to watch the chat. "Well," the director of such classics as "Titanic" and "Aliens" began. "We wanted to say that there was an otherness, an alien-ness to them.
But we wanted to keep them human enough that we could understand their emotions. So, they were going to have two eyes, and they were going to have a mouth." Cameron made a point to say that he took particular pride in creating the wholly original world of "Avatar" at a time when so much of Hollywood is spinning their wheels with sequels, remakes and adaptations of old material. And, like his best films, he made sure that a romantic subplot was in the mix — which placed added requirements on the Na'vi character Neytiri, played by Zoe Saldana.
"At a certain point, we realized this is going to be a love story," he explained of Neytiri's relationship with Jake Sully, a human-in-Na'vi-form portrayed by Sam Worthington. "So, Zoe's character had to be beautiful and accessible and relatable emotionally." Looking over at his fellow Q&A participants — the Dominican/ Puerto Rican Saldana and Western Australian Worthington — the Canadian-born Cameron said that the Na'vi's blue skin also allowed him to comment on race. "[I was thinking], 'What are the differences that we can deal with, without it becoming a barrier?'
Skin color is great, and it's also great thematically, because skin color is obviously such a big issue on our planet," he explained with a grin, looking at his actors and teasing Worthington. "All the warm tones — from pallid Canadian pink, to beautiful warm browns and, well, pallid Australian pink — were all taken. "So, we were down to blue and green basically — and green had been taken by all those Martian movies with the little green men," he remembered of his reasoning. "So, we have big blue women, not little green men." As far as I can see everything has been thought out by THE MAN. How many times does Cameron have to OWN the trolls until they finally realize that they have 0 arguments against this film? Some moron up top is saying Cameron's lost his touch after Titanic. Oh yeah? Since when? You realize that this his the FIRST movie he's made SINCE TITANIC??? Now you're complaining about people visiting a strange planet for the first time being surprised by what they see and... and this is really funny... that there's "no original shots"???? What... THE... FUCK...???? That comment was so vauge and stupid that I wish I could reach through my screen across the internet and puch you right in the face till you look as blue as a Na'vi! Hopefully Cameron will invent that technology some day! -
Dec 09, 2009 12:47:59 AM CST
A little late but dinomolester had the best post of all time
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
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Well, with a beak like that...
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Golden Globes ready to go gaga for 'Avatar'
Posted on Tuesday, Dec 8, 2009 By Gregory Ellwood
Zoe Saldana and Sam Worthington in alien form in James Cameron's "Avatar."
Credit: 20th Century FoxOver a decade ago James Cameron was battling media reports that his delayed and pricey epic "Titanic" was a creative disaster and ready to sink at the box office like the famed ocean liner whose story it dramatically re-told. Instead, the Paramount Pictures/20th Century Fox production became a cultural phenomenon and grossed over $1.8 billion worldwide and won a staggering 11 Academy Awards including the prestigious Best Picture trophy. In less than two weeks, Cameron returns to the big screen with his almost as hyped Sci-Fi motion capture adventure "Avatar." The film has sparked heated debate among genre fans and everyday moviegoers as well as finding itself under the microscope of the testy entertainment media. Factoring in the substantial negative responses to the IMAX and Comic-Con previews, many in the industry were coming to the conclusion that "Avatar" would be a nice hit (i.e., $200 million plus in the U.S.) at best thanks to some nicely cut TV spots. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who expected the picture to stand alongside the critical favorites of Cameron's previous work. Boy can things change after one screening in Hollywood. No one who has seen the film is allowed to go on record [and this writer has not seen the film himself], but word has leaked that Fox's gamble may have paid off and "Avatar" may be way more than meets the eye.
After a screening yesterday morning, very reliable sources have told Awards Campaign that the HFPA were incredibly positive about Cameron's latest endeavor. In fact, it's now very likely to be nominated in both the Best Picture - Drama and Best Director categories when the Golden Globe nominations are announced next Tuesday. This was almost unthinkable a week ago and may push expected Globe nominees such as "The Hurt Locker" or "An Education" out of the Best Picture - Drama race. Additionally, this could (emphasis on "could") find "Avatar" seriously being considered for one of the ten nominees for Oscar's Best Picture trophy -- especially considering the 8-10th slots hardly seem secure at this point in the race.
More importantly to Fox, a strong Globe reaction could be the final piece of the puzzle to ensure a massive opening weekend. "Avatar" is already tracking at a $60 million plus debut, but unexpected critical acclaim could certainly boost interest among those on the fence about the genre flick. At the very least, it's certainly another intriguing twist in "Avatar's" 15 year journey to the big screen.
So, will this news convince anyone to now rise early Tuesday morning at 8:30 AM EST/ 5:30 PM PST to find out who was nominated? On second thought, don't answer that West Coast peeps. The news won't change either way if you sleep in to a more reasonable hour. But trust us, we'll be up and waiting. -
Taking the day off?
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AVATAR.(gunshot)ing your eyeballs.Haters, be damned.
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Hey, he is the king of the fucking world, after all. If anybody can pull it off, and make the naysayers look as idiotic as they are, it's THE KING OF THE FUCKING WORLD.
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Nice try. Do you want to put anything else under your pillow?
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Great, Good, or Bad, I will be there to see the movie...hoping that it will be a bit of a masterpiece, either way, even if it fails dramatically, it can't be as bad as the Star Wars prequels...and that is a win already!!!
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Dec 09, 2009 2:12:31 AM CST
Darth_Aig: The Field Is Open For The Oscar Nomination...
by media messiah
...because the Academy has opened-up the category to include 10 nominees this year...for Best Film in order to include blockbusters. This is a tactic designed to lure in more mainstream viewers to the Oscar telecast.
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I'm going to go during the day so I don't have to listen to some idiot hater who would probably be at the midnight showing just to hate.
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uncle george didnt get best picture nom for his prequels.
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Anybody else pick up? Wow.
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he befriends real scientists(space and underwater), is himself an avid adventurer and deep sea diver, he collects dinosaur bones as a hobby, pilots helicopter, etc etc. add that to the fact that he wrote and directed terminator and aliens, there's just no one around more qualified to make a kickass sci-fi epic than cameron. if he can't do it now with all the resources available to him, then no one else can.
ignore the trolls. 7 days to go. -
You post something of interest. Shame it wasn't anything by you eh? Was half expecting you to break out into some conspiracy shit, but you did well. nice effort. 6/10
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posting as if we are supposed to know who the fuck Leona Lewis is. ???
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we know that..this is the one aspect of Cameron films you can rely on to be musty old hat as opposed to cutting edge : the music. He has no fucking idea at all. Horner is a fogey.
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I love James Cameron because he is insanely in love with breaking new ground. Anybody like that, a risk taker, you have to adore for their boldness!!!PS: Thanks for being so cool Player Two, you rock!!!!!
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he created the technology for Avatar pretty much himself, knows how to film a spectacular action scene and create suspense. Unfortunately, he’s not a talented screenwriter. When he has to compromise full-throttle action for a more elaborate story and characters he falls a bit flat.
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that shit he put his name to - about finding proof of the real 'Jesus' was fucking embarrassing and well below a man of his supposed intellect...he's far from perfect..and in a sense this is much like most great auteur's - he's a bit batshit too. Sometimes his curiosity makes him look goofy. So while I'm excited to see this (knowing we're sure to see some eyepopping 3D imax action) I'm also well aware of his weaknesses (soppy melodrama being high on the list). Drippy music like this only confirms it. It still doesn't mean the film will suck..
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?p=16337344
well, you cant read the entire review, but it was mentioned there. also one weta guy vouched for the reaction. -
http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/avatar_foreign_poster_moon1.jpg
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sorry double links. here's the other one:
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COuld they have picked anyone more dull to do the theme song?
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Is that everybody who has seen the Avatar trailer already feels that they know the whole story. It just looks totally formulaic.
Unless Jim Cameron has created some genius unpredictable story-twists, I think the biggest problem with this movie is going to be that the audience already expect the hero to go over and join the alien side and fall in love with the alien girl - THE END - sort of thing. -
The most boring, insipid, torpor inducing lack of talent ever to win a 'talent' show. And I use the term 'win' quite wrongly because EVERY one of those fucking shows is fixed. My apathy towards Avatar is well documented on these TB's but my unwillingness to give my money to Murdochs's corporate collection of jism gargler's at Fox was just beginning to waver purely out of respect of Mr. Cameron's previous work. But this news... just saved me £10. Jim, I put up with Dion in Titanic because she was at the end of film, if this warbling cretin is even associated with the movie then all street cred and respect you've earned just evaporated.
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dont worry then. leona lewis will be at the end of the film as well.
@Ray Gamma: yeah i know that feeling exactly. i never read LOTR books, but i knew exactly that the little hobbit will defeat the bid bad giant flaming eye at the end of the story. yeah, the predictable plot of LOTR is the "BIG PROBLEM". riiight... -
Obviously that part of the LOTR plot is predictable, but are you saying you knew every plot twist in the story? Could you guess everything that was going to happen?
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I'd rather drive knitting needles into my inner ear than put up with anything from the Cowell reject factory. How much do I dislike anything associated with X-Factor, X has got talent etc, etc? When that warbling cretin got attacked recently at a (ghost-written) book signing, the vicious nasty side of my id, that we all have, got upset that the guy didn't have a gun, then it would serve as a warning to all to not go on 'Talent' shows. So I can't imagine I'd take to the idea of her being involved in Avatar.
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I'm with you on that one, she deserved a good whack!
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I booked my ticket a few days ago, if I had known this movie was infused with this x-factor TV for idiots phenomenon (one of the reasons the worlds in the dumbed down state its in) I wouldn't have bothered paying to see this movie. This is not cool Jim, not cool at all. Fuck you Jim, i tought you couldnt top that Canadian singer for middle age conservative women (and the Gays) but you have outdone yourself this time! As of today Im in the "dont belive the hype" camp. Aggrahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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X-factor TV for Idiots phenomenon is the best summation of it I've heard. I NEVER watch commercial TV now. It's all part of the worldwide conspiracy to dumb down the media because those in power do not want a free thinking, educated and informed populace making choices. Why do you think Murdoch and now his son constantly attack the BBC? It's because it's free, impartial and tends to focus on small things like being factually accurate. Murdoch wants to tell you what he thinks you should know, even when it's wrong and charge you for the fucking privilege. It's why Murdoch's media has switched sides to supporting the Tory's in the UK. Because David Cameron and his cronies promised they would look at revoking the BBC's royal charter should they win the next general election! Why is this not causing outrage in the UK? Murdoch owns most of the fucking papers is why!!
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But as it only costs each household 39p a day it's certainly good value.
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Dec 09, 2009 6:11:20 AM CST
New Star Wars film coming - spilled by Thomas Dolby of all peopl
by paulseta
on his blog:
"Last night he was telling me a little about the forthcoming Star Wars-related TV show, movie and online games—very cool indeed."
Notice the word "movie" in there?
Referring to a conversation he had with his friend Paul Sebastien, who works for LucasArts. You may recall that Dolby did the music for Howard The Duck (cough cough).
Think he might have just spilled some serious beans.
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There was a rumour a few months back that was quickly dismissed, maybe the two are connected.
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most likely when you think about it...
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the story of the LOTR is the same story of world war II, which is the same kind of story that keeps happening in every age throughout human history. the plot is nothing original. and you can see every twist from a mile away. but did the films kick ass? you bet! and it has nothing to do with the predictable plot but everything with HOW the storyteller tell the story. and that's the most important trick.
with avatar cameron also choose another universal and timeless theme that can appeal to everyone on the planet no matter which country they're in. the story is not new, sure, but if anyone can re-tell that story while giving it a sci-fi edge, no one is more qualified than cameron. have faith. -
if you're missing a new 3 hours james cameron film just because of a 3 minutes love song tagged for the end credit of the film, then i'm the one who feel sorry for you.
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Yeah, pretty weak song. Whatever, just release the damn movie already.
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This brings back all sorts of bad tastes from Horner's horrid Troy soundtrack & song.
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Agreed the BBC is probably soon be the last bastion of free impartial TV news in the world. Ever notice the sly “digs” corporate TV stations have at Wikipedia? I’ve noticed it in sitcoms and cartoons (usually FOX aired). I for one think the BBC online and the wikis have done more to educate the average person than any other medium. I’m Irish and I have to work with idiots that get drawn into these “talent” shows as bad as our British neighbours. Mile long queues of idiots auditioning in front the scum of the earth media whores happen here as well as Britain every year. I was never a fan of talent shows but the shit that is on TV these days isn’t even a talent search. It’s 12 months 7 days a week 2 hours a day worth of free-will destroying brain damage. A 1 hour show may have 5 minutes of actual “performance” the other 55 minutes is recycled footage of previous shows and footage of the idiots queuing outside audition buildings over and over and over again. Nobody seems to notice this and after a year of long drawn out talent searching among seemingly tens of thousands of singers!! …. We get Leona Lewis who is a poor singer, not terrible but poor, piss poor and the powers that be at FOX cynically shoe horn her and her shitty music into Avatar as a Celine Deon clone. This is going to kill the movie. The good news is its FOX’s movie so fuck-em and all that sail in her!
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Everyone in the UK pays a yearly TV license which funds the BBC, no commercials, so it's about as free as a whore with a passable face. Also, they have never been impartial, though they're even less so these days since they had to sell their soul to the government following the WMD fiasco and Dr. David Kelly's 'suicide'. Is all.
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Wow! Carpenter, you are a like god or something with the wisdom!
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We're concerned with a SONG in a Cameron movie? Just goes to show how off the mark Jim's gotten. Remember the "songs" in the original Terminator? That's what we gotta get back to. At this point I'm pretty sure I won't be seeing Avatar in theatres. Everything I've seen / heard does not bode well.
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I assume you're referring to "My Hiss Will Go On"? ;)
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and a clear indication of what the movie will be like. cameron is out of touch. who is this movie for? not me, thats for sure.
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this is all camerons doing. when this movie fails i hope people put the blame where it belongs. on cameron. not fox
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... got upset that the guy didn't have a gun, then it would serve as a warning to all to not go on 'Talent' shows.No wonder the uk is known as WANKER WORLD. signed: your friend
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Obviously that part of the LOTR plot is predictable, but are you saying you knew every plot twist in the story? Could you guess everything that was going to happen?
Comparing Avatar to LOTR is a real dishonour to LOTR.It was a Book, people read it, they knew going in what is was all about and went anyway, gee, imagine that. You've seen some footage and figured everything out, or are you prescient?To compare you to a sentient being is a real dishonor to the human race! signed: your friend
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"Stop being stupid you moron"
What you don't like movies with epic battles on strange new worlds with intelligent alien life with a story with some real thought and care put into it, and utilizing state of the art technology? Really fuck you dude. You are full of shit. What, were you hoping for a Fried Green Tomatoes movie lady? -
JackAsh_Williams is a Troll from the CHUD website, a Devin Faraci shill. She used to be called Nerd_Rag_Retard_Strength till that name was banned. She was weaned off Camerons cock too early and her estrangement has manifested itself here. Ignore the TROLL, do not feed the TROLL. signed: your friend
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your truly an idiot. why do i have to be a shill for anyone? i just think this movie looks like shit. tons of people think this movie looks like shit. this is not a conspiracy you loser. people looking foward to avatar are in the minority. get used to it. dumb ass.
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retard
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have their heads shoved so far up their own asses that they have no clue about the fact that public opinion about this movie is universally negative. turn off WoW and get a clue. go out into the real world. you will see that no one is looking foward to this movie. maybe if it had come out before phantom menace it might have had a chance.
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signed: your friend.
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avatar will be the worst scifi movie ever. titanic lovers rejoice.
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Fuck this song...get The Motor City Mad Man up there pumping arrows through the Na'vi while singing Cat Scratch Fever.
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Looks like JackAsh_Williams (Nerd_Rage) is late for his daily dose of CHUDJUICE from Faraci's cock.
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Blurch! I only made it 16 seconds in before realizing I had to either make it stop or off myself.
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FUCKING RETARDED BATSHIT SPASTIC LOGIC there Ash_Williams
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shouldn't just do the song, he should be in the movie. They got like a few days, they could superimpose him in there. If you really want to hedge your bets, throw in Henry Rollins too. Between the two of them, smurfs don't stand a chance.
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Fucking Simon Cowell, ruining the British music industry. I hope Sting flips out and stabs that smug twat...
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You are such a little flabby baby. Fucking drama queen. Does baby need his bottle? Keep sucking your momma's tit Ash_Williams you little baby.
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You are judging a film by some song that will appear at the credits , fu**ing retards. Who gives a crap if its leona Lewis singing. I think you are.
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The fact that he brought Episode 1 into the discussion shows his underlying delimma. And btw the way Ash you idiot. Cameron wasn't thrilled with the idea about the Dion song in Titanic, but Horner convinced him to leave it in. And it became insanely popular. I doubt Cameron is very thrilled by the idea of the Lewis song either, but I'm betting this is also at Horner's insistance, and because of Titanic Cameron's giving him the benefit of the doubt. Heck both Cameron and Horner were attempting to make some original sounding score but in the end settled for something mroe traditional. And besides all that the irony in your statements is that you try to convince us that the songs from both Titanic and now subsequently Avatar would never be popular. But if you try living in reality bub, there's tons of people who really love that Titanic song and also love Lewis. I have no idea why, but your argument made no sense before it began. I don't like this song. But I'm betting the masses inevitably will. Because the masses pay attention to celeb people like Lewis which will draw their attention to this song and obviously the film and I'm certain the masses will love it because they are not hung up on shit like you are. You can take that to the bank.
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http://www.collider.com/2009/12/09/6-movie-clips-from-james-camerons-avatar/
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Dec 09, 2009 10:29:59 PM CST
Is Ash_Williams that cunt Nerd Rage Retard Strength?
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
I had my suspicions based on some of his prior comments. Didn't manage keep up that ruse very long, did he? Scum of the earth.
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Watch the new "Avatar" clips.http://www.collider.com/2009/12/09/6-movie-clips-from-james-camerons-avatar/
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How does it feel to have Cameron bricking a big one into your mouth?Avatar - Golden Globe for best dramatic feature film! Zing!$1.5 billion worldwide gross! Double Zing!!This generation's Star Wars! Triple Zing!!!
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—the Golden Globes haven't been announced yet. "Avatar" 'may' get a nomination. We'll see on the 17th. I'm hoping for "The Hurt Locker" myself.Did anyone watch the new clips?
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But it's amusing to wind that Nerd fucker up. Not that I don't think Avatar won't get nominated, though - it seems to be very likely.
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Nerd_Rage_Troll is 100 miles and running.
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Average predictable pop song... the trailers to the film feel like I'm watching someone else play a video game.... Waiting for the Thor Movie instead!!!
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This movie looks awesome. Sure it could suck, but what looks anything from bad so far? This song? Fools.
I'm pretty fucking pumped to see this.
I was pumped to see Wild Things too and that blew, so we'll see.
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Dec 10, 2009 5:27:17 AM CST
Man that song does fucking suck though...
by machine gun simon fire viterbo
Seriously suck.
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http://www.collider.com/2009/12/09/6-movie-clips-from-james-camerons-avatar/
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pg13
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Ferngully 2000 plotline combined with ultra-cheesy music. What exactly is there to see here? The amazing CGI? Pfff, get the fuck out of here. That shit does not impress me.
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So I just got back from a movie. It was pretty great...if by pretty great I mean OMFGHOLYFUCKINGSHITOMGOMGOMG. Because that's what it was. You have officially been to your last Con in which blue people, spoken Navi and the word "hometree" were absent.
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Excellent.
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I happen to like listening to Leona Lewis sing. I do not think she is impersonating Celine Dion; but the song sounds like the Titanic song because both songs are written by the same composer. What's all Cameron hate about here? I just saw "Avatar, " and I was in awe. It's a grand piece of film making. It is both enjoyable and provocative. Enough with all the rude comments already.
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