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Peter Jackson gives us a Temeraire update!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I was contacted by Paramount about doing a phone interview with Peter Jackson this past afternoon during his whirlwind round of promotion on The Lovely Bones. The full interview is in the transcription process now and should be up mid-week or earlier... we talk a ton about Stanley Tucci and the elements that didn't make the cut and even a little about Wingnut Games, Jackson's video game company. But in the meantime I wanted to post the below segment of the interview, focusing on his 2010 plans, specifically about his adaptation of Naomi Novik's Temeraire books. The Temeraire series is a kind of a what if? story set during the Napoleonic Wars. In this reality dragons exist, giving an aerial battle component to the predominantly naval and ground war. I'm a fan of the books and it's perfect material for Jackson and his crew... character driven action fantasy. Imagine Master and Commander with dragon attacks and you start to get the picture. What I love about this part of the interview is Jackson's willingness to talk about ideas that haven't formed yet. If you've read a lot of interviews, especially ones done with online outlets, you know the interviewee is always guarded about in-process material. Since things change so quickly in this business it can be dangerous to talk about ideas that aren't set in stone. But Jackson doesn't worry about that here, floating ideas that could very well (and probably will) change. Below is about 4 minutes of the 20 minutes I got with the man and he does mention Hobbit and a few other unnamed, unexplained "projects" also in the works for the rest of this year and all of next. Stay tuned for the whole enchilada to hit soon! Enjoy!
Quint: What's next? I'm particularly interested in where you guys are at with the Temeraire series and if you are going to be moving on that any time soon.
Peter Jackson: It's certainly a project that this next year... I've always looked on 2010 as being the year where I kind of get to the next level on a few projects because 2009 has been really the year of Lovely Bones and District 9 and getting TinTin motion captured and also getting most of The Hobbit script written. Certainly by the end of 2009 The Hobbit screenplay will be finished. So, that's that year taken care of and then 2010 is an opportunity to move on with several projects. What I'm thinking of with Temeraire, and I'm certainly happy to share it with you... it's only really my very initial, early stages... but Naomi (Novik, author of the Temeraire books) came out to New Zealand to visit us with her husband... she's absolutely terrific...
Quint: Yeah, they're good people. Her and Charles (Ardai, Naomi's husband and a gifted writer in his own right) both.
Peter Jackson: Yes. She's now starting to whisper to me that she's going to be writing 9 books in the Temeraire series. I can't see any degree of common sense in trying to mount them one at a time as feature films. To me the stories, having read the first ones, already work as this continuing, on-going saga, so I'm thinking "Is there a marketplace out there yet for a large budget mini-series?" I guess you'd think of things like HBO and you'd think of Band of Brothers and that sort of thing, but it'd be different than that. The market's changing so much, TV networks are changing, so I'm thinking is there actually a market out there that'd give us the budget to do this properly and allow us to shoot this as a 6, 7 or 8 part series where we have freedom, we have great production values and are able to tackle it as the epic saga that it deserves. I just can't see doing one expensive movie and if that's successful you get to do another one, but if the second one isn't quite as good maybe there'll never be a third one... I just don't see that fitting with the property at all.
Quint: Yeah. While I wouldn't say every book ends on a cliffhanger the war is still ongoing now a good 5 books into the series. The main story thread is still unresolved. You don't want a set up that doesn't pay off... like The Golden Compass.
Peter Jackson: Yeah. So my thinking is... and I'm talking to you here having absolutely no plans in place, no deal in place... and I wouldn't. What I would do is I'd start developing the treatment, I'd start to break the storylines down to see if we can structure it in that way. I've already started to do designs. I've had Weta Workshop do a lot of work on designing the characters... the dragons... I've been working with Gus Hunter on the designs. We're well underway creating the visual look.
In 2010 one of the things I'll be doing is looking at starting the scripting process and structuring and using it to see if we can't set the project up in that way because I think that'd be the best to serve the story.
There's your Temeraire update. What do you folks think?
Personally, I agree that the series would work very well as an ongoing series, but it has to be at a certain level... You don't want to see typical shitty TV-quality CGI dragons flying around or horrible digital matte paintings. The story is a historical war drama/fantasy... a two-part front of costliness. Either one would be hard to pull off with a typical TV budget.
It's a tall order, but we'll see how the project evolves.
My full chat with Peter Jackson will be delivered as soon as I get the full transcription fit for print. Keep an eye peeled.
-Quint
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I announce thy rose hole like a damn cavalry charge!<p>AVATAR!<p>humans will cry!
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What? Another Dragon project?
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has about as much chance being subtle as he does being slim.<p>thirdly. i firsted all over your face tommy<p>burn in hell<p>AVATAR<p>enjoy the hot sweaty quim of KATHY!
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It's what created a completely unrealistic expectation of Kong...and in some sense sunk it.
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Is all Peter Jacson ever going to do, is adapt books? Or do remakes?
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has resulted in a prolapsed elbow and swimmer's ear!<p> what the hell?<p> plus Temeraire is for girls who do not announce dinner like a damn cavalry charge<p> who cannot spit like a man <p> drink like a man<p> wait...what's that rose? that fire in your eyes? That fire i love about you!<p> WE ARE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE!<p> my dad is a one legged french prostitute.
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not to drink his bathwater<p> and goddamnit if I didn't catch him drinking his own bathwater<p> CRAZY!
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about mainstream is cinema is that for two or so hours i get to sit in the dark with other normal people i do not know and will never know.
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when you're retarded. and drunk on your uncle's bathwater.
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dragons are giving me the creeps
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ABORT THE TROOPS!
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Freudian Slip<p> SUPPORT THE TROOOPS!
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I think this would be a brilliant idea. In the wake of Sopranos and only a few more seasons of Entourage left I need a new favorite Tv show and this could be it. Obviously the budgets wouldnt allow for LOTR size battles every week but if they manage to find a way to not have it look cheap (Hercules and Xena) and really have each episode consist of amazing design, performance and scripts then I think this is actually the best way to bring it to the screen.
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are you looking forward to having your ass handed to you by James Cameron later this month?"<P>I sincerely hope that was your wrap-up question.
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thats odd.
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More like Hornblower with dragons :)
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btw I've only read the first book but did noone else find the 'loving bond' between Will and Temeraire a bit unsettling. I assume they get it on in a later installment.
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James Camerons Avatar has had the design and special effects all done by Jackson's company and it was filmed at Jackson's facilities in Wellington. Yeah Cameron's really giving Jackson the middle finger with this one. It hardly qualifies as having your ass handed to you.
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Yes, I'm well aware of that. I was referring to DIRECTING a movie of that scale.<P>Jackson failed quite handily with "King Kong". Don't expect the same from Cameron with "Avatar".
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You can hardly call Kong a failure. There was more imagine and jaw dropping moments in that film than most of the blockbusters today combined. The look of the New York sequences which were completely sets and green screen still blow my mind. If anything failed I think it was that I think there wasnt enough time to get the edit right and trim down scenes that weren't needed. I do hope that Avatar is as good as the years of build up have led us to beleive. For all the 3D, mo cap, design and Visual effects I really hope that we end up talking about the story when we discuss the film. When I first saw T2 as a kid I was blown away by the effects but I ultimately remember loving the characters, I hope the same goes for Avatar.
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Jackson's stuff I can actually get excited about, as opposed to most other clueless kooks.
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What is that status on that bitch?
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Only made $548 million BO worldwide...
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But LotR kicks everything else in the ass. PERIOD. Really no room for debate on that, unless one is sub-mental!
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Lord of the Rings? What, do you like, live under a bridge?
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ut PJ has some form in giant fantasy blookbusters with large battles in them. <p> PJ, you want my £10 now?
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Dec. 7, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST
Outside of the stampede Kong was mostly sublime
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
It is to me the greatest ever remake. It's not perfect but no film is. It just has more heart than any blockbuster since. <p> Kong was the fucking meaning of epic Rocco Curioso. Sloppy at times yet the scale is huge... <p> For the record my favorite remakes are Cape Fear, The Thing and Kong.
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Over a year ago there was a note posted on this same site when Dan Simmons told us that 'WB was working to turn Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion into movies.'... Now, there's something I wanna see :)
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Remarkably, it won't be a remake or a book adaptation. It will be a (auto)biopic entitled "SHINING CAMERON'S SHOES".<P>Followed by the sequel "YESSUM, BOSS JIM".
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Actually, Anthony La Molinara did the first 3D Avatar design at Digital Domain during Titanic's production, not WETA.
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Rings is the greatest trilogy I believe I will ever see in my lifetime. I know people like to argue in favor of Star Wars but Return of The Jedi just pales in comparison to Return of The King. Plus Star Wars has a black sheep in the family called the Prilogy. What Jackson gave us with Rings truly is remarkable cinema. Film making that called upon something great from Artists in all areas....everyone delivered leaving us with films of absolute aw inspiring greatness.
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...DT would be the better of two weevil.<P>I'd watch Bonaparte's Dragons though. God pounds his nails.
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FLOCKA!!!
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. . . just NOT interest me? In spite of Jackon's interest in it, every time I visualize this, I don't get excited. Are there ANY fantasy elements other than the dragons? It's just nineteenth century Earth w/ dragons added?
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the more movies he puts out the more I start to think LOTR was a fluke. I don't like The Frighteners, King Kong was bloated and The Lovely Bones reviews so far are mixed at best. Never saw Heavenly Creatures but I'm not sure I would like it. <p>I'm becoming more and more convinced that Jackson was able to surround himself with extremely talented people for LOTR and the trilogy took on a life of it's own beyond Jackson's capabilities. I really like him and hope he can live up to the Oscar winning expectations of him in the future, but I really don't think we'll see another LOTR quality film from him again.
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That would be a story, that I would like to see on screen.... and it has a fitting size....
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...is very good.<P>I just like to hear the guy talk...he's clearly one of us. I'm not familiar with these books, but everything he said there makes perfect sense and echoes arguments we've made here hundreds of times about how to adapt other beloved books, comic books, graphic novels, etc...
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Nice reference.<p> I think Heavenly Creatures remains PJ's best film. I've read the first three books in the Temeraire series - the first being far and away the best. If he's looking to a series, maybe it should be animated. Which is also incidentally what I think about Dark Tower, too.
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...COWBOY BEBOP style in my head. The other half looked more like Lynch's DUNE.
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Unless it goes elsewhere in later books, that sums it up. It worked for me. <p> Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell is the one with magic in.
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Finally someone else has read them books, they are epic and would be awesome as a movie or even a good tv series. Who though if anyone could play Dread?
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no animation necessary
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Michael Arias. He did Tekkonkinkreet, which if you haven't seen it you should.
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I'd like to see what Chomet could do w/ DT as well. How in the hell did we turn this into a DT talk back again . . . ?
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Kick the saga off with a large-scale feature film and then follow up with a handsomely produced continuing television series. If the series performs well-enough over time, perhaps the whole drama could be wrapped up with another epic feature. For the series, savings could be found in using sets already built for the first film, as well as costumes, props, etc. Cast relatively unknown actors and newcomers, performers who won't have a problem going between film and TV. Peter Jackson is the real star of this, anyway.
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way over his head on the extras of Tekkonkinkreet, although in the end he did a good job. I don't think he could handle The Dark Tower.
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THIS is what Peter should be doing, not some miniseries. The dragons need to be done with a movie CGI budget. Otherwise they're gonna look so crap. Temeraire is a main character, a huge talking dragon. IMPOSSIBLE to achieve in a series without it looking like ass. The books are soooo boring too. I was looking forward to seeing what life Peter and Fran would inject into them. They have no plot, it's just travelling from one boring place to another. Combine the first two books together and have the big last fight in China with Temeraire facing up to the evil dragon, it would work pretty well IMO. Simply cut all the travelling that takes up most of the second book. The dragon transport ship would look GREAT on a movie budget, SHIT for TV. This stuff is on an even bigger scale than Kong if you think about it. Could Kong have been done as a miniseries? No. So how can Temeraire??
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They're easily the books I've most recommended and lent to friends in the last few years. Whatever he can get done with them, so long as his hands are all over the project, sounds good to me. I do think combining books would be fine as there is some fat that could be trimmed in each book anyway. A lot of large sections of exposition in the books could be told very quickly on film. But, if he intends on telling the entire story, they would absolutely work as episodic television, IF (as Quint mentions) the dragons look good. Their individual looks and abilities are such a HUGE part of the books. Probably more than any other fantasy I've read.
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pretty good stuff, but they could cut a lot of stuff out if they needed to (which is a good thing for film), and if it's treated in the same way MASTER AND COMMANDER was, this will be pretty bad fucking ass.
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I"ll Netflix Heavenly Creatures.<p>I agree about jackson being one of us. In fact, I regularly watch the LOTR documentaries more than the actual films, and they're always better when jackson is talking.
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hey C.T.: I always thought of Dread as someone like cape-fear-DeNiro kind of guy... hard to see anyone like him today.... besides: I wouldn´t want to have no big names in a project like this...
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means: I DON´T like to have big names in it...
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was rated fesh by critics, made over 500 million at the BO and won 4 oscars. o.k. tech ones but oscars nonetheless....I hope I make a film that "fails" like that.
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...For Peter Jackson to make a film that runs only 2 hours or less? This guy clerly doesn't understand the concept of editing, so he should take on the challenge of making a film with a reasonable runtime.
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Dec. 7, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST
...Bellam, I would gladly watch a live action or animated...
by FlickaPoo
...version. If it was animated I think there would be quite a few fine choices...I'm shamefully ignorant of who makes what, I mostly just recognize the drawing styles.<P>I think the Tekkonkinkreet people could do a very good job...the MUSHISHI and DEATH FRENZY people would be interesting too...
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Imagine what the Civil War would have been like if trolls were real. How about, what would the Cuban Missle Crisis have been like if we had the flying mounted Nazgul? Hmmm, how about the Revolutionary War if the Brits conscripted orcs? Better yet, let's do the opposite. What would the Battle of Minias Tirith been like if we had tanks and World War I biplanes? Dumb, dumb, dumb
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Dec. 7, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST
PJ couldn't make a good movie if zombie kubrick and welles helpe
by HaterofCrap
pj is the worst director out of the big money clique by FAR. the world does not need more shots of elijah wood or some equivalent crying and walking, walking and crying. and king kong...what the fuck was that?
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Dec. 7, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST
It's funny how 50 years ago someone would criticize someone for
by RequisiteMonkey
writing a screenplay/novel combining pirates and dragons yet someone in the present and/or future will write/produce/make millions from a movie involving pirates/ninjas/dragons/sorcerors/knights/robots/aliens/comedians/starring Will Smith the V, who happens to be gay, much to the dismay of his homophobic, hip-hoppin gay, robotic servant (housing the soul of Will Smith)
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and the prospect doesn't entirely grab me, but I think it's fantastic to hear a big name director - with some SERIOUS business clout behind him - talk about making quality TV series' as opposed to truncated and unsatisfying movies.<p>There are countless examples of films out there that were denied the storyline and character development that a episodic treatment would have allowed them.<p>If anyone can do this well it'll be Jackson. Dude owns a SFX company for gods sake...
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I would suggest that if we want to talk about 'alternate history' adaptations I would prefer saying goodbye to the dragons and make Harry Harrisons excellent 'what if?' Stars and Stripes civil war trilogy instead.
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Dragonheart, Aragon etc. I don't know why. It's just the films they have them in are just not that good.
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Dec. 7, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST
Pete what about my 1950's America with Giant Intelligent Apes sc
by Darth_Inedible
A Cold War drama about America's uneasy relationship with a race of giant intelligent apes from South America who must be convinced to intervene against the Soviets, who are making inroads into Brazil and Chile following the fall of Cuba. First choice for lead is Worthington and we've been talking Ben Kingsley for Ike. Pete think about it you could reuse all the Kong work. Giant apes in US military greens walking around DC... Apes versus T-34 columns in the rainforest... Put Thundersmurfs to shame for half the price. Call me.
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I kept waiting for the kettle to boil over, to get really excited about something... but it just didn't happen. I think it was the second book, where they travel to China which is the worst. Boring as batshit for most of it. SPOILER ALERT Once he gets in big trouble - you know the really big trouble - at the end of the third book, I really began to like the series. And off to Australia next! I just hope that she doesn't write about the trip there. Having spent a lot of time between harbours myself, I can tell you ocean travel can be damn boring.
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On vanity projects like this and King Kong. No one is going to want to see Napoleon on a dragon guys--seriously. I hope he doesn't go the way of Shyamalan when this flops because I'm a huge fan of his directorial style..he just doesn't seem to have a feel for what mainstream audiences want to see. He lucked out with LOTR because it was a traditional high fantasy work with themes and motiffs that everyone's familiar with. This one's a little too esoteric, I'm afraid.
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The only book that is self-contained is the first one, which is by far the most satisfying of the series so far. Once you get to the end of Book 3 you start getting cliffhanger after cliffhanger and it's clear that this is going to be a long story. At that point I was sure that a big-budget miniseries on HBO was the best way to go with TEMERAIRE. And actually, they'd probably be better off if they did not restrict each book to a single episode and instead cut some of the stories into smaller pieces, maybe 2-3 episodes per book. Regardless, I am glad that Jackson is thinking miniseries, because that seems like the only fair way to tell this very long story.
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never read them, so they may be good, for all I know, but they JUST came out a few years ago. There are so many greats in fantasy lit going back to the late 1800's through the 20 c., yet they have to always make recent shit.
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are on wikipedia, though. Love the throwback design.
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...are the only dragons I'm interested in for about the next seven years...
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Churchill and Roosevelt debate the reconstruction of post war Germany with a Stalin who is a centaur. How will a centaur Stalin deal with a post war Poland and the developing communist eastern bloc will be the central conflict? I hope they would go with a human acting centaur Stalin--not just CGI.
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Yes he knows editing, he had a heavy hand in District 9.
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http://tinyurl.com/yb6ujal
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...Temeraire as a tv series has its pros and cons. If they really want to make it work as a tv series, it should be animated. This goes for both DT and Temeraire. Unless they luck out and have a killer budget like LOST, it'll only work if its animated.
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Peter Jackson is the master of retarded casting choices. Thank God some-how Stuart Townsend dropped out of LOTR, Viggo Mortensen was the right one all along. The opposite happened with the Lovely Bones. Should have kept Ryan Gosling somehow.
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...slow, but I couldn't personally say boring. As has been mentioned, and I do agree, there is room to cut parts, piece, sections, etc from these books and still stay true to the stories. Like, when the dragons are sick - man that just goes on for way too long. And the worst location for me was Africa. But I still love 'em. And I absolutely love the concept. Which seems perfectly fantastical for PJ. If it ends up being a TV series PJ needs to talk to Milius about how he got Rome to look the way he did. Because that series looked absolutely incredible. Animated Temeraire, eh, I don't feel that too much. Animated Dark Tower/Gunslinger series, heck yeah. That I can totally picture. And get Sam Keith involved at some point if that's the case.
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lol - I was having multiple thoughts at one time. Travel portions ARE often slow.
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please PJ
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The dragon gets a serious "hell yeah" moment in the finale that I could totally see happen in a movie. Those that read it probably no exactly what I'm talking about.
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...I think people forget that Bad Taste, Meet The Feebles, Braindead, Heavenly Creatures, Forgotten Silver and The Frighteners were all "normal" length, if not on the short side. The LOTR trilogy was long out of necessity and still had entire sections cut completely or saved for the extended DVD releases. King Kong, well, methinks that was just PJ geeking out as hard as he could with the clout he had after the trilogy. Admittedly, it's waaaay too long. I know some people don't agree. But I'd offer up the bug attack sequence as an example. That scene should have been thirty seconds to a minute, tops! I have no idea how long it went on, but it was certainly longer than that. I'll admit that I'm not a fan of that King Kong, though. As much as I dig PJ's films, that one didn't do it for me.
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Will it ever get made?
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According to PJ it's still on schedule. This is just one of many things he's been working on for the last couple years.
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Dec. 7, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST
What about The Hobbit? It's casting, that's what!!!!!
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2009/12/peter-jackson-says-hobbit-casting-begins-this-week.html WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!
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A Song of Ice and Fire will hopefully hit HBO next year. That's all that is needed. If this hits TV it'll be shit in comparison.
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Funny, I'm re-reading the "Black Powder War" Temeraire book right now. God DAMN but Novik can write. Her books are written with intelligence and style, in a motif I call "logical fantasy" - she really makes you buy the idea of dragons existing during the days of the Napoleonic Wars. Her research is flawless and she captures the sights, sounds, smells, joys and terrors of that era convincingly. Her books are rich in period detail and don't sell out to modern sensibilities, which I have to say is damn refreshing. I think they'd make excellent films under the skilled eye of Jackson, so I'm cautiously optimistic that something epic could emerge from this project. Thanks for the update, Quint.
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I do honestly think there is a bit of fat to be trimmed, especially in every book after the Black Powder War. She does tend to repeat things in each book that we already know and fully understand. But I do love how realistic and possible she makes it all seem. Particularly the different skill sets of each dragon type and the need for training to bring out their best. I also love that she included feral dragons and worshiped dragons, etc., so it didn't just come across as "this is my version of dragons - they get along with men". It's nice that they don't always do so easily, or by choice, or at all.
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...Her Majesty's Dragon - the first book. Derr.
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With Game of Thrones and all. If it gets picked up (please, please, please). Stranger things have happened I suppose.
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you know it's going to happen
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He'd need to put on some weight for the part. I think they could do better, though.
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http://tinyurl.com/ybwutha <p> she could read me a lecture any day!
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such as "of"...
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Word. Given the massive expense of GAME OF THRONES which will only feature non-talking dragons on-screen for a few minutes per episode (if that), the idea that HBO can afford to do a series which features battles where hundreds of dragons blast one another out of the sky and not have it look like either the 2000 D&D movie or ERAGON seems a bit ridiculous. OTOH, with Jackson's name and presumably Weta doing effects work on it at a bargain rate, maybe something will be doable, especially if they do it as a big event series like BAND OF BROTHERS. I certainly wouldn't complain at two decent fantasy series on HBO at the same time. For those asking about DARK TOWER, I believe the project is currently residing with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, and they'll be looking at what they're going to do with it (TV, movies, whatever) after LOST finishes, so I wouldn't expect news on that until next spring or summer.
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Stuart Townsend didn't 'somehow drop out' of The Lord of the Rings. He was replaced after a very brief period of shooting when Jackson realised they were making a mistake. I'm sure the experience was very painful for Townsend, but credit to him that he had mentioned having misgivings about being right for the part in the first place.
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Are you going to come up with an idea of your or are you just going to keep getting rich of other people's work while going around pretending you're a genius even though the technology and resources for your so-called towering achievements had been readily available for years and in comparison to Lawrence of Arabia, LOTR looks fookin' amateurish. Plus, why were Orcs such a bunch of numpties? Fookin' ponces fell over before the swords got anywhere close, the silly ponces!
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Listening to people who have never created a thing in their life criticize a director of a widely acclaimed film trilogy previously thought to be unfilmable.
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Thought it was dull as dishwater.
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...have you seen any of PJ's films prior to the LOTR trilogy? People DO realize he made films before those, right? Also, your complaint would eliminate about 75% of all the films made around the world. Maybe more. Original ideas are few and far between.
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So get it done on Showtime, then. Dexter and Weeds are the two best series on pay cable right now, anyway.
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If he spent as much time fucking honing his craft as he does courting the media will all his online fucking updates, maybe Peter Jackson would make better films. And then we'd ALL be fucking happier.
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Nobody cares about dragons and fantasy shit anymore, get over it and get back to your roots.
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"to visit us with her husband... she's absolutely terrific..."
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Fuck dragons, them so last millennium!
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While Naomi gave sum Good head, Nom nom nom mi! Temerarireirereieremuddafugga! Are there more polyamorous bitches in Newziland? Cougars? MILFs? Peter... I know, it's miraculous how having a phat D makes all women around you gossip about it, like it's a fable extraordinaire or Mary's apparition for catholic fanatics -- eventually then share IT like they invented peer 2 peer!! It's a godmode without cheating! More, having two intelligent women consensually share your dick and mind and money, maybe a bit of heart, too... that is überattractive to guests, (bi)curious and creative, smart women, married or not. Suddenly they all do things they would never with average men... And we all know, how women think, even with average men, that if some woman is hot for a guy, he must be good, so more pussies come purring... effortless! Wifeswap time, serious buddha! Peter, having one suck them balls, another 1 gobbing the hopgoblin, or 2 decker doggy style, now that's HEAVENLY CREATURES!
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Micropenises, microhearted microminds invented warfare, lead wars, and finance the wars, anyway.
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Dec. 8, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST
Jackson was hardly the first to make the evil henchmen "ponces"
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
It's the old Hollywood "1 Cowboy, 100 Indians" rule; namely, 1 cowboy could kill 100 Indians, but it took 100 Indians to kill 1 cowboy. (Yes, I'm aware they're Native Americans, but in old Hollywood, they called them Indians). Might as well ask why the Stormtroopers could never hit shit that was right in front of them, or why in kung-foo films the ninjas always surround the one good guy then attack him one at a time. Now, why the Orcs had cockney accents, that's what I'd like to know. Especially because according to Tolkien, they would have had rough, Germanic-sounding accents.
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Yeah, you said it, man. If Jackson goes ahead with this, he may just be trumped by HBO.
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Yeah, just keep watching HBO. You're gonna see dragons all right. Also, the only fantasy story that actually betters LOTR. There, I said it.
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Now if HBO could get A Song of Ice and Fire going and get The Dark Tower... holy shit the possiblities.
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Jackson's a really smart bloke. And he's spot on in his thinking. The various fantasy book series' that get optioned don't always have to be thought of in terms of theatrical movies. I've been hoping for years that someone would have the balls to do a big budget TV series/miniseries with good quality FX. It's like when they were talking about doing a movie of Akira. The anime movie was great, don't get me wrong, but it was just the tip of the iceberg in terms of adapting the comic. I think Akira would have been better to be done as a big budget TV series. Theatrical movies of fantasy books simply don't have a good track record except of Lord Of The Rings and Harry Potter and the recent Twilight series. The Inkheart books are fantastic but we'll never see them all on the big screen because they messed up the first movie and it was a flop. Golden Compass was the same. I quite enjoyed the Spiderwick movie but there are no plans to continue it. The Sword of Truth series could have been fantastic but the TV series is simply terrible. They've made it for TV so they're just thinking of it as TV, when instead they should be thinking of it in more cinematic terms. Plus there's the dune series. The TV mini series' were more faithful to the books but they had the usual shitty TV production values. I commend Jackson for his thinking in this way and I really hope he pulls it off. If anyone can he can. Oh and for all you Kong haters: piss off :)
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