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quantummechanix.com is marketing a nifty poster demonstrating how “they evolved.”
The second and third images depict androids seen in the “Caprica” pilot.
If you’re counting, the last Cylon depicted is Six.
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“Caprica” launches on Syfy Jan. 22.
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Love the toaster!
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They take all the parts of BSG I didnt really care for, and turn it into a prequel. The silly future with a contemporary look; the relationship drama; the boring yack yack yack... and leave out the ass kicking, the dog fighting, the blowing shit up in space! Syfy blows now, first its a Stargate where they are not shooting any aliens, now a BSG where they are not shooting any robots.
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REALLY don't care for the "stylized" blobby artwork, either...
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We've waited more than 6 months, it must be time for a reboot/re-imagining, this time though we could have a male Starbuck and get Sharlto Copley to play him! I'm a fuckin genius!
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so good, I'm not even gonna bother figuring out why.
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Christ Caprica is turning into Waiting for Godot
That show is always going to be hyped and never going to be made. -
fuck the haters, well each person is allowed their own opinion, so mine is just as valid. I can't wait to see where they take it.
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I tried. God knows I tried. The kid actors were horrible. The plot wasn't that strong either. I miss season 2.
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I thought it was a well acted, slickly filmed sci-fi twist on Frankenstein and I'm looking for more. I don't mind the "yack yack yack" as long as it's engaging.
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Or, at least it's misleading. As per the "Final Five" comic book, Six was a product of the Tighs' brains, in collaboration with the oldschool Cylon centurions. The design did not evolve from the new-style centurions - in fact, the new-style Centurions were developed later than the human models that the final five designed. Major, major error! Or not. Well, whatever. Goddidit. :-|
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You're making the mistake of assuming that evolution is linear. Its not. Its exponential, particularly when the evolution can be accelerated by intelligence. Oink.
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With Starbuck as a hermaphrodite.
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jesus h christ,you cant hang this poster on a wall.damn,and i wanted to buy it.
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YOU know it.
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Dec 04, 2009 7:06:48 AM CST
Need a picture of Naked woman in tub between Five and Six
by teethgnasher
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"You know, this seven-foot scary android look isn't working for us. What we really need is to look like hot chicks and Al from QUANTUM LEAP."
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That is, hand's down, the funniest thing I've read in a TB in a long time.
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I'd love your analogy if only Caprica weren't set to premiere next month. Sorry. :(
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Sir..."they evolved" from the Galactica opening didn't need to be "explained": it was pretty straightforward. "Demonstrates" would be a better word here.
But there was no mystery in that.
The bigger problem is that in the first two, Peabody-award winning seasons, they kept hyping us up, in the opening credits themselves even, that "There's a Cylon Plan" that you have to decode. So we endlessly rewatched episodes trying to analyze the most subtle dialogue and gestures.
Then in season 3, they introduced that Final Five nonsense for shock value, and it gradually became apparent that there WAS NO overall plan to the series or basic mythology, even after two years.
***I'm actually not upset at the ending per se, in that I always assumed it would end up with them crashing onto ancient Earth (I can't believe the rubes who honestly assumed it was in the future)
Nonetheleess, all of that other nonsense with "Starbuck is literally an Angel, or what?" was just yanking our chains.
***Most people who I personally know, at least, admitted that they only kept watching in seasons 3 and 4 not because it was great television so much as out of a warped sense of obligation....or, hoping that *literally in the last 5 minutes* there was going to be some twist or sudden reveal explaining everything. There wasn't, and some of us like Cassandra realized by the season 3 finale that the show was lost, but the rest clung onto it like a prayer...UNTIL the ending.
How do you judge fan reaction to a show that ends? Not through ratings. So everyone still thinks that this validates the final two seasons.
Caprica is going to inherit all of the upset feelings about the final two BSG seasons, and with good reason: just like seasons 3 and 4, its trying to shoehorn an unrelated plot onto the story of seasons 1 and 2 and ride its coat tails. -
that's and the fact prequels suck is all I need to know to avoid this like the plague
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So she might as well be the ship.
Well that's what I heard! -
They started as toasters? That's corny. Not in a funny sort of way.
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Thanks for reminding us what a convoluted and contrived mess the plot of this show degenerated into...biggest letdown in TV history...
www.tinyurl.com/bsgsux -
I'm so fucking tired of the simpletons on here crying out "God did it." God didn't do it and anyone that thinks It? did shows a complete lack of understanding about what this show was about from the very fucking beginning.
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Man, well put! Well, fucking put!
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needed to be said.
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Some of these "fans" crack me up. "Drama sucks. Where's the explosions?" Watch Transformers 2 you dopes. The pilot was actually done very well. Simpletons indeed.
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"God did it"
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Then season 3 started to lose me. Too much political nonsense, trying to be "deep" and mysterious and all the characters started hating each other. It got old fast. The initial military aspects of the show were amazing. Tension, action, life & death drama. Season 3 started to piss it all away and season 4 is TOUGH to get through. But I will. I'm halfway done and I will finish off Galactica, regardless of how painful it is.
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Well said sir. Couldn't agree more. I'll just add that you know that RDM had no idea how the show would end just by listening to his episode podcasts.
For me, an ongoing series of this nature *has* to have a good ending or it taints everything that preceded it.
As such, I have little interest in Caprica - the series. I may check it out once in a while but I think the BSG ship has sailed (into the sun). -
Everything after that becomes a big pile of anticlimactic shit, especially the final episode. "Hey, everybody! Let's give up what's left of our technology, scatter ourselves all over the planet with few people to talk to, and breed with the primitive natives when we get in the mood for a little strange. Doesn't that sound great?!"
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You summed up my entire experience, with BSG. Well put.
For some mad reason I broke down and rented "The Plan". I have only two words for it: utter shit. -
The Big It offered these people choices and guidance, that's it.
It was primarily up to Adama and Roslin what choices would be made, if anyone did it it was them. The entire series was about choices and consequences, Adama's speech inside the museum typifies exactly what the show was about, and you knuckleheads missed it, from the goddam beginning.
And Jimmy is right, "The Plan" was utter shit. The movie pretty much recaps everything we already knew and have even seen snippets of. If anything they should have given us a movie that showed us what happened between Cavil and the 5. We should have seen the 5 return and stopping the 1st War, creating the skinjobs, Cavil's descent into madness, Cavil's betrayal, and THEN maybe some of what came later. Exposition Anders was pretty damn lame when we know they could have shown at least some of it. -
If that guy just started hanging around me with a bright plastic handheld, I'd quickly start taking his instructions, moving through my days, trying to put right, what once went wrong. On another note, has this show not aired yet? I swear I've been hearing about it for years, and thought it had already come and gone.
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...one of the greatest series on TV until the last 45 minutes, and that last 45 minutes ruined everything they had developed for five years. Ron Moore should be ashamed of himself. He's not, of course, because in the back of his mind he had this plan all along:to blame everything on a deity that couldn't defend itself. Even God said, "Don't blame me for this mess. I have endings that make sense."
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A group of friends were with my wife and I for a big bash for the finale and ALL OF US let out out a combined WTF?!?! during the finale sequences (everyone turns out to be frackin' angels!!!). I mean, really, WTF were they thinking??? What a total cop out and slap in the face to the fans. We checked out the pilot for CAPRICA and were NOT impressed.THE PLAN was also crap.NOT watching CAPRICA or anything else to do with BG, I'm sorry to say. I also have little doubt CAPRICA is going to fall flat. It just didn't have anything to it that would cause anyone to watch the show. Diehard fans *might*, but of the general public there was little to get excited about. It was boring (and not in a cerebral way, either) and lacked even any type of visual punch. Just plain bad!
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by the show runners, its clear now that despite all there talk they DIDN'T have a plan or a good show bible...sure they might have always planed to end the series at the place they did (the place that most fans thought they would), but the didn't have a decent story outline...its a shame as some of the ideas worked, but too much of the final 2 seasons seemed like bad filler, a shame for a show that started with such promise and failed to truly realize its potential....
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I must have seen a different show than the few of you that hated season 3 & 4. I'm curious... what shows would you say are better? I need something to gage this all by, because frankly the haters sound like a bunch of well, haters, that will say this dislike everything.
Also, it is a shame if something doesn't end the way you want it, you say the past is ruined and not worth it. So, when things don't work out like that in life & love, all that has come before goes out the window? That, my friends, is not the way to live or grow as a person -
This poster needed to come out about four years ago. You know, when the shit was actually on.
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Never will get into BSG. I DON'T KNOW how they turned a Star Wars knockoff into some political nonsense. With that said, how the fuck is this more scifi than Star Wars when it looks like Mad Men with a few explosions now and then? SHIT.
At least the 1979 programme had a damn good theme. -
watch before you criticize
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Which was worse?
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It was seriously dramatic. It's probably the first time someone actually took sci-fi seriously. They took a sci-fi show and made the military and political aspects seem very real. The people were real and the drama was involved and multi-layered.
But more than this, there was virtually no humor. Whereas most shows have to constantly hammer home humor so the family-types don't think something is too intense, BG said to hell with that...the human race was out to survive. Period. End of story. There wasn't much to be happy about other than coming back from a mission still breathing. And what you came back to wasn't all that cheery - just another day on the job. Absolutely fantastic drama and brilliant sci-fi. This is sci-fi for people always disappointed with the cheesy, family-friendly version of sci-fi. I could go on and on, but that's the gist. You owe it to yourself to watch the series. -
Starbuck shrieking *YOUR'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY* and Adama Meltdowns(tm)
But moore had already lost his mind and was letting the characters write the story by then -
Seinfeld's ending felt appropriate and I loved all the cameos. BG just plain sucked. They copped out and pretty much disappointed everyone.
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...with their "it's the characters that matter, not the story" approach. I absolutely adored this show for the first three seasons, but when it became apparent that there WAS no plan, that they were "making it up as they went along," it became preposterous. I tried to convince myself that it made sense, but now, looking back, the show grows more and more insignificant with the passing of time. Could've been one of the all-time greats, but Moore crawled too far up his own ass and turned the whole thing into a jumbled mess of crap. A well-acted jumbled mess of crap, but still ... crap is crap.
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In fact, I had an unhealthy obsession with the new Galactica when it started. I ordered an Emmy screener of the mini series months before it was released for purchase. I was buying UK burned dvd's of season 1 episodes from Sky broadcasting off Ebay just to see the episodes a little early. LOVED the show. Told everyone about the new Galactica and how it was like "Blackhawk Down" in space. Until it had an identity crisis. Yeah, bad Galactica episodes are better than most shows but that's not a great defense for a show that went from brilliant to barely watchable.
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Just do a few a year, like Razor. Man, that would have been great. Season 3 was pretty good, but I liked Season 4 better. The only times I hated the show was when they focused on characters like fucking Kat. Who cares?
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gotta love that the evolutionary scale starts with a toaster.
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All this disappointment and hand-wringing over the "God(s)-guided" finale of BSG leaves me wondering. Were we all watching the same series? Religious themes run through every season and most every episode.Any body who cant't fathom the idea that there was a "plan" all along...and that the plan was God's Plan for his children, simply wasn't paying attention.
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I see that thrown around alot, "They copped out...", out of what exactly? What was it they were supposed to do that they copped out of? I defy any of you to support this stupid statement.
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I think that they delivered what they said they would (mostly): Virtual-6 apparently was an agent of a Higher Power, Hera was the first of "God's new generation" (Mitachondrial Eve), Kara "blazed with the light of God" as an apparently divinely sent agent. I rather enjoyed the ride that was BSG. But I can understand where some would be disappointed by it.
As for Caprica, I enjoyed the DVD and am looking forward to it. It will be interesting to see how (or if) the Cylon antipathy toward the "flawed creation" that is humanity is influenced by the beliefs of the militant Soldiers of the One, or if Virtual Zoe begins to desire an organic body, thus influencing the centurions later on when they experiment with creating organic bodies (Razor). The cylons end up both hating humanity and desiring to be more (physically) like them. Ironic.
So, I'm looking forward to it. -
All the BSG (and X3) hate, can't understand it.
Galactica was the best drama on TV except for Mad Men. Stargate Universe is a BSG "flavored" show, but the twists are telegraphed from the first roll of the credits.
Still if Caprica is at least as good as SGU it will beat just about everything else all to hell.
If it touches on BSG greatness... well we'll see.
As for the religious themes in Galactica, what show were you watching?
Gaius Baltar: What are you?
Head Six: I’m an angel of God sent here to help you… just like I always have been. -
The Cylons craved dick.
Are all those models supposed to be females? -
Up through the conclusion of the New Caprica storyline and the RAZOR movie, BSG *WAS* the greatest SF series ever.
What plainly went wrong was a headlong rush into a cooperative human/Cylon destiny that rang completely false, given the pains taken in previous seasons to establish the desperate mindset and paranoia of the human survivors. The need to hammer this optimistic message home took precedence over that painstakingly assembled scenario, and the show began to drift into phoniness and melodrama as it mechanically marched into the preposterous finale, which seemed more like a desperate attempt to shore up dangling plot threads than a valid ending.
There were glints of genius up through the end, of course (Tigh discovering that he murdered his true love, Starbuck discovering her own body on "Earth" and Gaeta's uprising spring to mind) but the damage was fully in effect by that point.
If it seems like some of us hate the show now, it's only because we loved it so much from the onset and loathed the lazy conclusion the writers clumsily dumped on us. -
Whilst thou hath shewn knowledge of His great works by raising in thine esteem His mighty effort MAD MEN, thou shalt not blaspheme against THE LORD THY GOD in the manner of exclusion by failing to acknowledge His greater miracle that was THE WIRE.
As penance, I assign thee a viewing of all five seasons.
Thou mayest thank me later. -
BurnHollywood, I appreciate what you are saying, but the entanglement of Human and Cylon destinies certainly began before the New Caprica storyline, namely (but not limited to) the birth of the offspring of Helo and Athena.
The intermingling of destinies was not without its bumps (opposition from Gaeta, etc) and I agree that the ending (and much of the series) could have been written better (yeah, sure they gave up their tech, ha!), but the peace between the (good) Cylons and the Humans is in keeping with a good and just God, "as a teacher; a bringer of light, wisdom, and understanding."
Just my 2 cents. -
"Not without its bumps" included the extermination of billions of human beings on the colonial worlds. The death of six million Jews is justifiably called "The Holocaust" on our own world, and there's a concrete lack of forgiveness amongst the remaining survivors of that "bump".
Any God that was a "teacher; a bringer of light, wisdom, and understanding" worth worshiping could surely bring that message to His people without so much death or suffering. -
Actually I would have been somewhat happy if they ended with Adama at his new house on the hill. I held off buying DVD's until the show ended and after the finale I just don't have the urge to buy them anymore. As someone else said, Caprica seems to be focusing on the less interesting parts of BSG. I have no interest in Caprica unless they totally revamp the premise later on.
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My "not without its bumps" comment was a reference to the opposition to the alliance from both humans and cylons. I should have been more clear.
But yes, millions or billions of murders are not an easy thing to forgive, but forgiveness would be the high road to take. Not easy, of course, but Good seldom is. "Do not repay evil with evil, rather, repay evil with good."
As for why bad things happen, well that's just how this particular universe works: "the rain falls on the just and unjust alike". Catastrophe does happen, whether its an economic Depression, a massive earthquake, an asteroid strike, or human perpetrated evil. I take some comfort from the lessons of Job (and his trials) and Elijah on Mt. Horeb (where a wind storm, earthquake and fire pass by, but God was not in any of those things, but He was in the Peace that followed). You might say that disasters are simply God's extreme option for bringing people together (helping each other out, getting to know their neighbors after a disaster, etc) and perhaps get people to consider how they spend their fleeting time in this world. Which brings me to my next point: as bad as this life can be, it is only temporary. I can't prove it of course, but this life is not the end all, be all of existence. -
"But God was not in any of those things". But of course he was, in your belief system, otherwise he's a fairly impotent and useless God.
I'm a Buddhist; I belong otherwise. Karma's to blame. I strive to be immune. There's no one stronger than myself to rescue me. -
Human religions (including mine) are finite (as is the human intellect) and do a poor job of describing the infinite (God being beyond matter and energy, beyond even spirit).
Did God create the universe and the laws that govern it? Yes. Do those same physical laws allow for the existence of earthquakes or firestorms? Yes. Did God explicitly cause any of those things to occur? Possibly, but not necessarily. This touches on the question of the Immanence and/or Transcendence of God. Its an easy thing to confuse Creation with the Creator. As for Elijah's excellent adventure, God was specifically not in those things in order to allow Elijah a little insight into the nature of God (but only a little). I'll leave further commentary to someone far more enlightened than I.
Whatever flavor of religion one chooses, if it helps them to be better people in the sight of God, then it is Good Thing.
And on that note, I am going to say good night, because I have to get up early (for a Saturday) to go to the Tech Museum to see the Star Trek Exhibition! Excellent!
Peace out and good night. -
"Did God explicitly cause any of those things to occur? Possibly, but not necessarily."
You suggest a God that is helpless in his own universe...hardly a comforting thought, and quite unworthy of worship.
I suggest the existence of no other God then myself, blundering blindfolded into a future of my own confused conception.
All the same, a far more comforting "deity" on my lonely, endless journey then your befuddled aristocrat. -
conversation. And amazingly I have to agree with both of you. But as far as BSG goes I enjoyed the entire series. I was let down by the finale only because I thought it could of had more of a fanfare of an ending. I thought the way it ended was fine, just wanted more BANG for my buck I guess...
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Not buying it. "You monkeys can live in your caves, we Cylons will use our awesome stregth, health and mental living rooms to rock out with our cocks out."What the hell happend on Kobol? Who left the costalations and map to Earth?Stupid and lazy retcon.BGS was great, now its meh. Good luck Caprica, you'll need it.
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jesus,they didnt get the facts straight about the evolution of Cylons.
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Late to the party but I'm reading through and you nailed it. I guess I'm still grappling with my frustration over this show! It went from something to look forward to to something akin to homework.
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Inspiration strikes
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the same shit with Lost.
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At the very least Lost has kept it together through the penultimate season. Although I guess you're right because to me S4 of BSG was way worse than the others, so maybe Lost will tank too. On the other hand S3 of BSG had perhaps the greatest jump the shark moment ever, and Lost didn't so I'm optimistic.
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that was more like a hitch-hiker's ending than a galactica ending
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I've got very high hopes for it. I have never felt that the show has gotten weak or meandering. It really seems that they have a plan and that they are gradually filling in all the pieces.
*However*, if they end up with a weak ending ala BSG or X-Files I will personally burn hollywood to the ground. I probably won't be alone either... -
than the actors, the show kind of lost it's way. It was cool when they used it once in a few episodes, but by the end, it was used in every episode! How did the smart Galactica crew not realize the song was the coordinates until the end?
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The whole "Godidit" ending was what we were promised - PROMISED - we wouldn't get.
Anyway, despite that, I still hope we'll get some live-action version of the "Final Five" comic books (with inconsistencies removed). -
“You suggest a God that is helpless in his own universe…”
I don’t suggest that at all. The Great Systems Engineer in the Sky set down the Rules that govern this universe. He could ordain that events only unfold in a nice way, but that would interfere with free will, which He also ordained. Can He break his own rules? Sure, but He chooses not to. Why is it necessary for the universe to be like this, you ask? Well, I don’t know, you’ll have to query the Head Office on that one. -
“I was let down by the finale only because I thought it could of had more of a fanfare of an ending. I thought the way it ended was fine, just wanted more BANG for my buck I guess...”
I hear ya. I agree it could have been written better, but for me the positives outweighed the negatives, so I am comfortable giving it a passing grade. -
At how the hell they ever evolved from human beings. ;-)
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Someone could make a great series out of BSG version 2 someday ...
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His whole opinion is that of a nitpicking headmistress who's so bored of her own life that she must pick apart those around her. And all we can say is "What a CUNT!!!" I would've read your comments but they're dripping with estrogen and self-importance.
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