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Suffering Psyclos!! Phillip Seymour Hoffman To Play Lafayette Ronald Hubbard In New Movie From Paul Thomas Anderson??

Published at:  Dec 03, 2009 1:02:16 AM CST


I am – Hercules!!

Paul Thomas Anderson (“There Will Be Blood”) is hatching a new movie to star Phillip Seymour Hoffman, an actor with whom he collaborated on “Sydney,” “Boogie Nights,” “Magnolia” and “Punch-Drunk Love.”

Hoffman, says Thursday morning’s Variety, will play “The Master”:

a charismatic intellectual who hatches a faith-based organization that begins to catch on in America in 1952. The core is the relationship between the Master and Freddie, a twentysomething drifter who becomes the leader's lieutenant. As the faith begins to gain a fervent following, Freddie finds himself questioning the belief system he has embraced, and his mentor.


Scientology was founded by L. Ron Hubbard in 1952, but there may be scores of other new religions I’m not thinking of that began to catch on in America in the 1950s.

The project, which has not yet received greenlight, is currently set up at Universal.

Paul Thomas Anderson has never directed a bad movie, and hasn’t directed a movie of any stripe since 2007’s “Blood,” which brought Daniel Day Lewis a best-actor Oscar and garnered Anderson Oscar nominations for best director, best adapted screenplay and best picture.


Find all of Variety’s story on the matter here.

Find an examination of the "South Park" examination of Scientology here.



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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:52:18 AM CST

    I hope he shows the atrocities, lies and crimes...

    by kirbymanly

    committed by that maniac.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:52:28 AM CST

    This could be amazing!!!

    by charlie_allnut

    I can't think of a better director to handle this, and I can't think of a better actor to play LRon. This material is pure gold...it should almost write itself!

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:52:32 AM CST

    FIRST

    by charlie_brigante

    sounds pretty fantastic.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:53:03 AM CST

    Holy shit, expect some serious problems from the church

    by bullet3

    No way in hell those guys will let a movie showing them all for frauds get made. They have many connections in hollywood, so I'd expect a lot of opposition. If they do make this (and not water it down), it would be really awesome though.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:55:48 AM CST

    expect cruise to do a new commentary for MI3

    by heavenlykid

    One where he constantly points out the flaws in PSH's performance and, whenever possible, compares him to a Nazi.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:56:17 AM CST

    Ineteresting....

    by curlysue

    I enjoy PTA 90 percent of the time. I am curious to see how this turns out... Phillip Seymour Hoffman with red hair might be to laughable to watch for a 2 1/2 long movie though...

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:06:12 AM CST

    PTA = best filmmaker today under 60

    by hegele

    he's a genius. I can't wait. Though i find it interesting that he's doing another period piece with a strong male lead dealing with faith. Usually he jumps between projects that are as different as you can get from each other.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:07:58 AM CST

    Calm down people

    by readyoufool

    As much as you and I might want to see an evisceration of Scientology and LRH in particular that is not how PTA works. He makes good movies. His movies don't eviscerate anyone. For all the talk about how TWBB was anti-oil and anti-capitalism (not saying PTA isn't) the movie was actually about the soul of this man who just happened to be an oil man. Could have been in any other industry. It's just that PTA had the idea at the same time as he was reading "Oil!" and thought, "hey, this would be a good setting for this little idea i had." This movie will not be some kind of a tell all bombshell thing that exposes things and brings an end to Scientology. It's going to be about a guy losing his faith and becoming jaded or regaining his faith or something to that effect probably. That is a particularly relevant topic at a time when the "greatness" of America and Americans has seemingly faded for so many people. If he actually made some kind of an expose on Scientology it would be his WORST movie. It would be terrible because he would be forcing a storyline instead of creating fully developed characters and sort of following them around. PTA is too smart to do that. And i haven't even gotten to the part about how in the hell would he get funding for an anti-scientology movie in hollywood. It's one thing for Southpark and it's relatively small workforce and inexpensive product to pull it off. No one's going to give even a major director money to rip apart a religion that caters to their own.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:09:04 AM CST

    also,

    by readyoufool

    i can't fucking wait for this to come out. I don't even care what the storyline is. PTA movie = Great movie.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:11:04 AM CST

    AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by lashlarue

    I thought There Will Be Blood came close to greatness, but never really got there. This one will be different.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:13:49 AM CST

    You are Clear of your milkshake

    by borock_a_boomer

    There will be blood

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:15:21 AM CST

    This better happen.

    by johnny smith

    If it doesn't, I'll blame Cruise and Travolta. To me, though, the best take on Scientology will be the second season MillenniuM episode "Jose Chung's Doomsday Defense", which describes, in great detail, the ridiculousness of the religion the episode calls "Selfosophy".

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:19:30 AM CST

    "i drain your soul! I DRAIN IT UP!"

    by hegele

  • Dec 03, 2009 1:35:11 AM CST

    Directd by John Smith, Starring John Smith

    by palooka_boy

    I will, I'll sue you in England!

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:52:41 AM CST

    I am a false prophet....

    by ripleygrady

    Sounds good. If There Will Be Blood is anything to go off of, this will be a welcome treat.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:13:49 AM CST

    Should base it on

    by walter_burns

    the book Bare Faced Messiah.

    I suspect though that it will shy away from being too linked to the church because of its power in hollywood - and the fact it would get bogged down in a zillion lawsuits

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:15:28 AM CST

    palooka_boy

    by walter_burns

    "I will, I'll sue you in England!"

    Ha ha. Yes the libel capital of the world. We welcome all libel tourists - to our shaem

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:15:38 AM CST

    Is this going to happen?

    by pompoulus

    On a list of things I can't believe will happen, a big box office critique of Scientology starring Philip Seymour Hoffman is somewhere between a visit from Santa and the assumption.

    Reply to Talkback

  • ...just because the film is set in the same year doesn't mean it's necessarily going to be about Scientology or L. Ron Hubbard (in fact, I doubt that it is, but that's just me). It's most likely going to be something of Anderson's own invention because, as a previous talkbacker mentioned, he isn't the kind of filmmaker who would go that route.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:20:17 AM CST

    ....Scientology aspect.

    by the_coyote

  • Dec 03, 2009 2:59:31 AM CST

    Sue Me: the motion picture

    by nerd rage

    Unless Hubbard is painted as a hero expect a shit load of law suits.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 03, 2009 3:00:50 AM CST

    Aww man looks like TWBB peaked his interest

    by thewaqman

    in religion. I'm not a big fan of this premise but eh PTA is fantastic and Seymour Hoffman is one of the best working actors. I'll see it fo sho.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 3:07:18 AM CST

    Lincoln film by PTA and Daniel Day Lewis as Abe.

    by snakecharmer

    How sick would that be!

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  • Dec 03, 2009 3:24:46 AM CST

    Scientology is unfairly malined and a beautiful

    by quin the eskimo

    reflection of man and his relationship with a universe that cares about man. It lays out the rules of the universe in such a manner that anyone can access and better there lives. I mean come on, what have the Abrahamic religions given us, other the war and petulance?

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  • Dec 03, 2009 3:26:08 AM CST

    Fareal...

    by kirbymanly

    The scarier thing is that they learn that story FIVE levels below the top of the Scientology "clear" chain. That's why there are so few OT VIII's. If you guys want to check out a guy who used to be a Scientologist and has the protesting-balls like none-other, go to youtube and check out "anonsparrow"'s videos. That guy does not give up.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 3:27:39 AM CST

    Also

    by quin the eskimo

    Jason got icy hot on Toms cock? Now what do we do?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 03, 2009 3:33:52 AM CST

    UFOlogy catched up in the 50s too

    by asimovlives

    All this believe in UFO stuff is pratically a religion but in name. And scientology is just one manifestation of that. Belief in UFO turned into an officially recognized religion. Well, in the USA at least. It's all this "I Want To Beleive" nonsense that is cool for X-Files but is just deranged in real life.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 3:35:32 AM CST

    And a new Paul Thomas Anderson movie is always cool news

    by asimovlives

  • Dec 03, 2009 3:39:23 AM CST

    Lashlarue

    by asimovlives

    There Will Be Blood IS greatness.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 3:41:58 AM CST

    I'll watch anything PTA makes...

    by film_fanatic_in_the_original_black_and_w

    ...so they had me at Paul Thomas Anderson...next movie. I was already in.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 4:32:57 AM CST

    PTA did work with Cruise

    by harrylove

    this could be very interesting.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 5:10:59 AM CST

    A word on Scientology.

    by v'shael

    Scientology is like other religions, in that it is made up horse shit, run by crooks and liars, and yet despite this, can be a source of comfort to its believers.

    Whether your tonic is believing in the burning bush, the feeding of the 5000 or dead alien thetans, doesn't matter a whole hell of a lot.

    Your church can condone murder, jihads and fatwas, or hide it's paedophile practitioners. The believer will still find fault with the organisation, and not his faith.

    And for those who were asking, the Abrahamic religions brought us a lot of great myths, some decent poetry, fantastic art and music, the concept of Confession (which is a damn site cheaper than seeing your therapist), many charitable organisations, and a love of education that runs the gamut from the Christian Brothers, to the Jesuits to Yeshivas.

    And what has scientology brought us? It teaches you to master your emotional responses, conflict resolution, and that psychiatry is horse shit (which we've known since 1973's Rosenhan experiment, but is still going strong as an industry).

    But hey, I'm an atheist, so I think you're ALL nuts. :)

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  • Dec 03, 2009 6:03:43 AM CST

    THERE WILL BE GLYNORG DEATHRAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by alice133

    i. cant. wait.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 6:22:32 AM CST

    Quoting MST3K "The Master? Bobby Fisher?"

    by ricarleite2

    So it's a character based on him, in order to avoid a lawsuit from lawyer-friendly scientologoists and Tom Cruise? Don't he know what happened with Orson Welles after he tried to pull that same move with Citizen Kane?

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  • Dec 03, 2009 6:51:28 AM CST

    News of a new PTA film is...

    by craaayz

    THE BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT EVER!!

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  • Dec 03, 2009 7:39:03 AM CST

    Was hoping he was reprising the same role...

    by nice marmot

    ...he played in Punch Drunk Love. He did an awesome job as the creepy scumbag.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 7:42:47 AM CST

    serious question

    by argentino

    If Battlefield Earth has been a great sci-fy movie, do you guys think Scientology would be considerably popular in geek circles? I mean, some movies are already a religion for a lot of geeks, so it wouldn't be hard for a lot of people to embrace those ridiculous beliefs. Don't you think?

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  • Dec 03, 2009 7:48:04 AM CST

    Not What I Would Have Chosen For My Favorite Director...

    by crow3711

    But, as always, its still a fascinated and ballsy topic that I can hardly imagine anyone else taking on. Just happy to hear PTA has something cooking. Any news on his front is good news.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 8:19:50 AM CST

    Why is every one thinking this is about...

    by sailor rip

    ...L Ron Hubbard and Scientology? PTA is better than that. He'll make his own story, religion, and character, and sure there may be similarities to real events or people but it's not going to be a Hubbard bio pic.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 8:21:22 AM CST

    Paul Thomas Anderson did

    by series7

    There will be blood? NO WAY!

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  • Dec 03, 2009 8:38:35 AM CST

    Other Religions

    by come_on

    At least other religions admit what they believe and speak openly about it. Scientologist fly into a rage if you mention Xenu, which is a goddamn part of their stupid ass faith wheteher they will admit it or not.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 8:52:05 AM CST

    There was a criminal lack of Hoffman in There Will Be Blood

    by nasty in the pasty

    *Every* PTA movie should have Philip Symour Hoffman and John C. Reilly.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 8:53:10 AM CST

    I'd rather see PSH play LaFayette from TRUE BLOOD

    by zombieheathledger

    than LaFayette Ron Hubbard.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:12:55 AM CST

    SOUNDS GOOD

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    I find it an odd choice, but ANDERSON IS A GODDAMN GENIUS.All his films are great.Magnolia,is a friggin masterpiece, as is There will be Blood.Maybe the connection between Anderson and this concept is that Cruise worked with him in magnolia, and cruise is a scientoloy mascot.Who know, or cares-I hope it's good, and it;d be nice to see the old gang back(hoffman,macy,guzman,etc).

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:17:35 AM CST

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

    by bgdawes

    HA! I didn't even't know about 'Xenu' until I read this talk back thread. I know that Wikipedia isn't exactly the encyclopedia Brittanica but DAMN, if Scientology is linked to anything in the Xenu wiki, in any way shape or form then Scientology is even more bizarre/wrong/crazy than I thought. I really wish I could have seen the South Park episode where it covers the Xenu story in animated form with 'This is what Scientologists actually believe' superimposed over the screen. Seriously, I couldn't even read the whole Wiki.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:23:21 AM CST

    @Come_ON : The thing about Xenu is...

    by v'shael

    That the majority of Scientologists aren't aware of those particular teachings. And the ones that were aware of it, thanks to cognitive dissonance, couldn't think it was bullshit.

    It's no different than fundamentalists in other religions who can explain away (ret-con, fanwank, choose your preferred term) the insanity in their own religions.
    Ask some Jewish friends if they are aware of "metzizah bi peh"?
    Every religion has its secret weirdness that its own followers don't like to discuss/think about.

    It's not always as funny as Xenu or Mormon underpants though.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:28:20 AM CST

    @BGDAWES - The South park clip

    by v'shael

    not the full episode sadly, can be legally seen on the Southpark studios website :

    http://tinyurl.com/yf5u3oe

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:28:51 AM CST

    BGDAWES the clip you are referring to is right here

    by cronenbergresearcher

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1529878/southpark_vs_scientology/

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:28:57 AM CST

    V'Shael

    by bgdawes

    Good point and ha - yeah, forgot that Mormon's have their own special 'whites' that they have to wear. Good thing Walter was Jewish, I have to imagine Mormon undies are hard to come by.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:29:00 AM CST

    At least the Europeans are suing them...

    by bill clay

    Thank Xenu, the European Union is treating the Scientologists like the phony brainwashing cult they really are. It's a shame they've managed to claim an air of respectability here in America, land of the free and home of the scammers.
    A failed Sci-Fi writer who pulled a hokey mythology out of his ass 50 years ago can't begin to compare his cult to religions thousands of years old. Both old and new mythology are still fables, but the new mythology is strictly a money making scheme taking advantage of the weak minded, with no pretense of legitimacy.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:34:59 AM CST

    By the way, that was a reference

    by bgdawes

    to the Big Lebowski, when Walter throws 'the ringer' (his undies - the whites) out the window. I wonder what the ringer would have been if the Coen's wrote that Walter was a Morman?

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:39:27 AM CST

    @Bill Clay : The only difference is time.

    by v'shael

    The idea of a single god who was responsible for *everything* was just as insanely nutty to the patheistic romans and greeks and egyptians and what not, as a sci-fi story like Xenu is to us.

    None the less, given enough time and good PR...

    The comparison is totally valid though. Even 2000 years ago, there were rabbis and Pharisees who were in it for the personal prestige etc.. It was one of the things Jesus wasn't happy with.

    And somehow the mega rich Catholic church can live comfortably with itself, and not be bothered by Luke 14:33

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:40:17 AM CST

    Oops "Pantheistic" not "patheistic"

    by v'shael

    which looks too much like "pathetic"

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:44:48 AM CST

    I'm looking forward to this...

    by kontarsky

    OHHH YEAH! Time to break out the Bridge to Total Freedom CD.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:46:42 AM CST

    RipSailor Is right

    by crow3711

    It's not going to be a direct L Ron biopic, I don't thnik. PTA is too smart and subversive for that. He'll make his own figure and his own religion. I think we all know it will parallel L Ron and Scientology, but I highly HIGHLY doubt eihter of those names will be in the film. It would bring uneeded heat from too much of hollywood to be worth it, they would try to scuttle his film, and its easy to tell that story using characters similar to real-life people. "this is a work of fiction and Any similarities to real individuals is purely coincedence." that type of thing. like south park does.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:47:26 AM CST

    Wow - pretty deep talk back

    by bgdawes

    we've got going here, with some legit/thought provoking dialogue. It's a miracle! Hail Xenu! Xenu gotta eat! Did Xenu drink a beer and cheet on his wife before or after he flew to Earth on the DC-8? I think Battlefield Earth failed because it was too Xenu-ee. My apologies fellas; had to sprinkle in some AICN oldies but goodies to add a dose of immaturity to this otherwise engaging talkback discussion.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:47:40 AM CST

    will the show el-ron

    by nippleeffect

    buggering little boys?
    He spent a lot of time at sea in international waters to avoid prosecution iirc

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:51:40 AM CST

    Come_ON

    by come_on

    As far as "metzizah bi peh" goes, I guess I'd rather listen to a story about an alien warlord that watch a rabbi suck a bloody baby weiner.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:53:16 AM CST

    But Still

    by come_on

    Scientology is stupid and your a moron if believe a single word of it.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:53:45 AM CST

    I like

    by come_on

    how I used my own name in the subject line. Time to take a nap.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:06:02 AM CST

    TwBB was one of the most robbed films in academy history

    by jettl93

    Never has a film thats been nominated deserved the best picture award (the wrestler would be a close second...still can't belive it lost to a punjabi millionaire moviemovies like the Dark knight have also been robbed but it never even got the nomination so it was robbed on a whole other level

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:20:09 AM CST

    Sometimes

    by harold-sherbort

    Atheists can be be just as crazy as fundamentalist Christians. No one knows for certain how we came about. Anything is possible. I'd like to think that if there was a god, it would be opposed to any religion though. Of course, I used to be Jehovahs Witness, so maybe my views on the subject are a little... crazy.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:33:19 AM CST

    Will Robert Heinlein be a character in this movie?

    by royston lodge

    I've always enjoyed the urban legend that Scientology was originally founded to settle a bet between Heinlein and Hubbard. According to the story, as it was told to me, after Hubbard read Stranger in a Strange Land he asked Heinlein if he really thought starting a brand new religion would really be that easy. Heinlein said no, so Hubbard bet him that he could do it.
    Who knows if it's true, but it's a fun story.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:33:47 AM CST

    I'd rather see PSH play LaFayette from TRUE BLOOD

    by rene_belloq_12inch_figure

    that absolutely makes no sense LMAO. Zombieheath

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:37:49 AM CST

    Series7

    by asimovlives

    You are not mistaking Paul Thomas Anderson with Paul W.S. Anderson, are you? The later is the one married with Mila Jovovitch. The former is the one who makes good movies.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:39:08 AM CST

    Royston Lodge

    by asimovlives

    That story is so crazy it can only be true.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:42:09 AM CST

    Harold-Sherbort

    by asimovlives

    Atheist take the fact we don't know for certain where we came about and embrace that lack of knowledge. It's the religous type, who believe in this magical explanations for where we came from that's the problem. At least atheists know when there is no answer and embrace that fact. And not fill it with the God-Of-Gaps.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:45:45 AM CST

    Royston Lodge

    by rkhalloran

    The Dianetics book was published in 1950. The apocryphal story was that Heinlein, Hubbard, Asimov and a couple of other SF writers were meeting with their editor, John Campbell, in NYC, sometime just after WW2, generally complaining about their income from writing, when one of them (not clear whether it was Heinlein or Hubbard) said "the best way to get rich in America is to start a religion..."

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:51:37 AM CST

    JettL93

    by asimovlives

    For once i agree with you. Good to see that when you let go off that "i'm an important Holylwood player" bulshit, you actually kinda sound like a reasonable human being.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:52:00 AM CST

    WOW! This really is cool!

    by johnnyangel

    Can't wait.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:54:26 AM CST

    rkhalloran

    by asimovlives

    That verson of the story is a even crazier then Royston Lodge's version. Which means it might be even closer to the truth.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 10:56:39 AM CST

    Back to the PTA new movie news.

    by asimovlives

    Finally there's really col news that give this stite justice. instead of the usual Jar Jar Abrams ass kissing twice a week pseudo-news that they go so specialized. a new PTA, that's what i call real cool news. Keep it up this way, AICN. Good job.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 11:03:23 AM CST

    Asimovlives

    by harold-sherbort

    There are some that I've met that have flat out told me that there is no god, and people that believe there is are wrong. Apparrently they didn't realize that they sound just as looney as some Christians. That's all I'm saying. I know the ones you're talking about. Those are the ones I can have a good conversation with and not have to deal with a condescending attitude. I like those ones.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 11:05:33 AM CST

    Hoffman is great at playing psychos so

    by grammaton cleric binks

    he would be perfect for this role.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 11:05:48 AM CST

    Damn. I really liked the Stranger in a Strange Land angle...

    by royston lodge

    ...but since SIASL was published in 1961 we seem to have a chicken/egg problem with the version of the story that I was told.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 11:41:42 AM CST

    "Sydney"??

    by leto iii

    ...C'mon, Herc, only avant-poseur film-hipsters will even get that reference without heading off to Wikipedia first.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 11:42:10 AM CST

    That said...

    by leto iii

    ...yeah, Hoffman's HARD EIGHT appearance was awesome.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 11:51:52 AM CST

    The only thing scarier than Scientologists...

    by hobocode

    are their even crazier detractors. Seriously. Have you seen those nut jobs? Bunch of scary anarchist goth teens and twenty-somethings rebelling against anything and everything.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 11:55:11 AM CST

    SHUT UP! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!

    by hobocode

    Shut up. will you SHUTUP SHUTUP! SHUT SHUT SHUT SHUT SHUT UP...SHUTUP! NOW.
    And that folks, is why PSH kicks ass.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:31:35 PM CST

    Atheism is a religion

    by p0llk4t

    More fanatical than most Christians.AsimovLives is wrong again of course. You're describing agnosticism not atheism. True atheists claim there is no God period, end of story. And they think anyone who believes in any kind of higher power or metaphysical existence is a waste of skin...much like AssholemovGives.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:38:31 PM CST

    Whoa.

    by darthcorleone

    If those crazies assassinate my favorite writer/director, there will be hell to pay.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:43:29 PM CST

    Really Herc? "Blood" did all that?

    by glory_fades_immaxfischer

    Thanks for telling us bunch of movie fanboys exactly all that There Will Be Blood accomplished because none of us watch movies.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 12:44:21 PM CST

    Xenu is the sexiest tomboy beanpole in the UNIVERSE!

    by vic twenty

  • Dec 03, 2009 1:29:16 PM CST

    Atheism is not a religion,

    by v'shael

    If atheism is a religion, then transparent is a colour.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 1:37:43 PM CST

    Sydney (Hard Eight) is required viewing

    by robstar

    Those who see it for the first time usually find it comparable to Pulp Fiction or something, but it's really one of a kind. Really small scale, though just as good as Boogie Nights, etc.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:26:15 PM CST

    atheiesm (and agnosticism) can't be religions..

    by theoverfiend

    fuck the speeling, point is how can they be religions?? kinda missing sumpin there,but hey i could be too medicated. thank god, Gawd,God,Xenu,Xena,Yahweh,Pee Wee Herman for medical cannabis

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:38:21 PM CST

    Xenu drinks a beer and cheats on his wife.

    by solanine

    Yes, I know someone mentioned it, but it needed to be in the subject.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:38:48 PM CST

    Atheism isn't a religion . . .

    by supernatural_canary

  • Dec 03, 2009 2:39:26 PM CST

    but it is dogmatic.

    by supernatural_canary

  • Dec 03, 2009 2:48:34 PM CST

    Scientology is no crazier than Christianity

    by lucasblows

    Both believe in absurd shit.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:49:37 PM CST

    I wonder how long it will be until PTA mysteriously

    by cronenbergresearcher

    goes missing never to be seen again?

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  • Dec 03, 2009 2:52:17 PM CST

    Leto III

    by natrlbornthrllr

    I've never before been called an avant-poseur film-hipster. I think I'm a bit flattered.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 3:00:26 PM CST

    Agnosticism: "I know in that I don't know"

    by natrlbornthrllr

    Atheism: "Belief in a god is silly."

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  • Dec 03, 2009 4:14:49 PM CST

    BOOORING!!! Get back to talking about this movie!

    by royston lodge

    'nuff said. =)

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  • Dec 03, 2009 5:04:47 PM CST

    phillip seymour playshimselfman

    by haterofcrap

    who'd this guy fuck to get so many roles? he's really not that great of an actor. all he is is another example of hollywood homogenization.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 5:56:22 PM CST

    Magnolia is a bad movie

    by tall_boy66

    Very, very bad.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 5:57:17 PM CST

    Seriously, they should use Magnolia at Gitmo

    by tall_boy66

    Make the terrorists sit through a double feature of Peter Jackson's King Kong and Magnolia and they'll tell you if they wear women's underwear.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 6:16:00 PM CST

    Hollywood already...

    by vandammeshuffle

    produced a film which brilliantly critiques cults such as Scientology, and it stars Tom Cruise, Eyes Wide Shut. Some research on that film and its relation to the Illuminati and other secret societies is pretty frightening.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 6:29:50 PM CST

    Everyone's got a Dirk Diggler over PTA

    by macready452

    Boogie Nights is his only movie that is remotely watchable but no one wants to cop to liking it cause they'll just get called a pecker checker(by me). I don't think the audience crosses this guys mind for one nano second when he is making a film. It is an endurance challenge anytime I dare to lend credence to any of his movies. Is there skill and talent there? Sure, but I am not entertained by these stories. TWBB..wow profound. Greed and religion are annoying and potentially bad.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 7:52:33 PM CST

    Atheism is a NOT religion...

    by bill clay

    Disbelief in something is not a life philosophy. Just because I don't believe in Santa Claus doesn't mean that I organize my life around that disbelief. However, if you are an adult who still believes that a jolly fat man comes down your chimney with presents on Xmas Eve, then I reserve the right to politely snicker at you.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 8:56:39 PM CST

    Atheism is a life philosophy

    by turingtestee

    It is a system of beliefs about how the world operates.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:07:44 PM CST

    Frankly,

    by turingtestee

    I find the idea of the universe originating from a responsible agent unbelievable.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:09:49 PM CST

    Also,

    by turingtestee

    I find the idea of the universe existing without a responsible agent equally unbelievable.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:40:59 PM CST

    Besides Scientology...

    by jessespots

    L. Ron has ALOT going on for him that would be perfect for a film. For instance when he was a commander of a submarine and fired upon "enemy ships" which ended up being well known mineral deposits.

    I trust this movie will be excellent.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:47:40 PM CST

    JesseSpots

    by jessespots

    HARD EIGHT: I love PTA but the people saying that Hard Eight is required viewing should probably re-watch the film themselves. There's not much plot in that movie that I could wrap myself around. The "twist" happens long after you lose interest in the characters. It's decent but by no means a classic. Boogie Nights is a masterpiece, Hard Eight is PTA's equivalent of a student film.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:53:56 PM CST

    Tom Cruise as Xenu cameo?

    by black_super_predator

    Uwe Boll should direct this fucker.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:59:53 PM CST

    He won't be able to name him L. Ron Hubbard

    by sithmenace

    There's no way the "church" will sit still while it gets released. I don't think they'll be able to block it since they don't seem to have the power they used to, but they can make things extremely difficult and expensive for the studio and Anderson.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 9:59:59 PM CST

    MINDHEAD, anyone?

    by sgt.steiner

    Seriously, though, agnosticism is for pussies. It is the viewpoint equivalent of those people who excuse themselves from having a political viewpoint. The truth? There is no difference between the concept of God(s) and the Loch Ness Monster. No proof of either, yet people will take God on faith, Poor Nessie. So cold and alone in her invisible waves.

    Christianity - Three whole days to come back? What a punk.

    Islam - No pork? Fuck you.

    Judaism - No pork? Fuck you.

    Buddhism - Buddha, you fatass

    Hinduism - KALI!!!!!

    Scientology - Xenu fucked my wife.

    Santeria - I don't practice Santeria.

    Voodoo - I don't believe in Voodoo.
    (Smashes doll)

    Mormonism - No caffeine! NO PRISONERS!

    Satanism - Michael Richards with a pitchfork in his ass.

    Oral sex - Yes, have some.

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  • Dec 03, 2009 11:45:54 PM CST

    Different animal entirely

    by turingtestee

    The question of Nessie has a few very simple but non-practical ways of being answered. Drain the loch and look is the most direct 'village idiot' sort of way. It would take time and resources and cause tremendous damage, but the absence or presence of a bloated and dying plesiosaur/giant otter/giant worm at the bottom would forever establish whether there is or is not a 'loch ness monster'. Bigfoot is a little more tricky, but with more time and damage, yeah, still a question that can be answered.The question of the existence of Santa is only slightly different. First, Santa is'nt really a figure that is ever meant to be believed in beyond the age of early childhood (if really ever). Like the boogeyman, or the tooth fairy, the easter bunny, or Paul Bunyan they are stories meant to be stories to impress upon children certain things. There may, in the distant past, have been an individual that is the basis of the story of Santa, or the tooth fairy, etc. There is no question about the existence of Santa, because there is no real question about the existence of Santa.Is the universe infinite? Did the universe have a beginning? Has it always been? Do we have free will? Could we have done otherwise? Is this program guaranteed to terminate? What happens when we die? What happens inside a black hole? Will the universe end? Is there a god?

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  • Dec 04, 2009 1:54:51 AM CST

    Re: Religion/PTA

    by armageddonproductions

    Christianity, like most religions, was created by whatever civilized country (usually, the Roman Empire) had invaded an uncivilized shithole like the Middle East or Great Britain to control its citizens through their religious leaders, rather like the E! Channel, MTV or reality television does today. In the case of Christianity, the Romans set up a Perseus-like figure, ten "commandments" and some crazy nutjob stories about Isaac's kid and Easu the Hairy One to quell the baby-eating Celts, Druids and Goths in what is now the stately British Isles while they occupied the region. And the home base for this religion was in --dun-dun-DUN! -- ROME! We could talk for hours about this, really. You're just as well off worshipping Xenu, Buddha or the Great Mazinga, but for all the iPhones and Stealth fighters and carbon-nanotube technology at our disposal, most of us are afraid of some scary omnipotent boogeyman in the sky. I think it's ingrained in our DNA, and the smart guys running the show are the ones who still use this knowledge against masses. The more things change ...

    Haven't seen THERE WILL BE BLOOD, but I loved HARD EIGHT (his best work, in my opinion) and would have a lot more respect for BOOGIE NIGHTS if it wasn't a (very) thinly-veiled and homogenized John Holmes bio-pic. Something tells me this will be the same thing for L. Ron. And for the record, while BATTLEFIELD EARTH was clumsily-written and probably waaaay too long, it was a hell of a lot better than the movie, which only bothered adapting half of the book (tho, the second half is a mostly-boring depiction of what happens when the retro-cavemen wind up in control of the Earth and have to spend their gold reserves buying off every alien in the galaxy to keep them from invading).

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  • Dec 04, 2009 3:58:14 AM CST

    "there may be scores of other new religions I’m not thinking of"

    by manifestchaos

    Are you fucking kidding me? Or just fucking retarded?

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  • Dec 04, 2009 4:17:06 AM CST

    Seriously ... scores of new religions? what fucking planet

    by manifestchaos

    What fucking planet are you from? Scientology is the ONLY "religion" worth mentioning to have sprung up in North America in the twentieth century.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 5:11:40 AM CST

    Perfect material for PTA.

    by knuckleduster

    Fuck, what a great filmmaker. Still, I would have loved to see him make a serious horror film (something akin to The Exorcist), but it's probably not his cup of tea.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 6:59:42 AM CST

    Scores of new religions... Yes, there were.

    by v'shael

    Off the top of my head, (and you MUST have heard of some of these)

    Wiccans (1954)
    Church of Satan (1966)
    Hare Krishnas (1965)
    Raëlians
    Theosophy
    Branch Davidians
    Heaven’s Gate
    Aum Shunrikyo
    Falun Gong
    Family Unification Church
    People’s Temple
    Osho Rajneesh
    Soka Gakkai
    Aumism

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  • Dec 04, 2009 7:02:55 AM CST

    Scores of new religions... Yes, there were.

    by v'shael

    Off the top of my head, (and you MUST have heard of some of these)

    Wiccans (1954)
    Church of Satan (1966)
    Hare Krishnas (1965)
    Raëlians
    Theosophy
    Branch Davidians
    Heaven’s Gate
    Aum Shunrikyo
    Falun Gong
    Family Unification Church
    People’s Temple
    Osho Rajneesh
    Soka Gakkai
    Aumism

    (Damn the lack of an edit button)

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  • Dec 04, 2009 7:14:07 AM CST

    Harold-Sherbort

    by asimovlives

    I tell you right flat out that there is no God. That's atheism. Why we say so? Becasue there's no evidence to the effect. and all the so.-called "evidences" that many believes show is just using the God-Of-Gaps to pump a divine being to fill lack of knowledge in certain areas of human knowledge. The real loonies are people who profess to know that there is an invisible floating big man in the sky, despiste the complete lack of evidence to the effect. That's insanity. There'sd no real major differenc ebetween claiming a God exist and an invisible big rabbit that seats on your side. some of this loonies are harmlessand they operate well in society, and are even filled with enough good intentions to help their fellow man. Others are deranged fucks who want to shove their illusions on others and want to bend world order to fit their prefered fantasy.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 7:16:01 AM CST

    Anybody who says that atheism is a religion is fucked up

    by asimovlives

    Really fucked up. There's many enlighted religious people who wouldn't say such a stupid shit. It'a a true testement to a certain particular type of mind that they see religion in everything, because that's how they operate, they are dogmatic types who can't even begin to understand the concept of people without faith, and who do not need it to life and operate and be good people to others. It's pathetic.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 7:18:38 AM CST

    There's a new religion at AICN:

    by asimovlives

    The Church Of Jar Jar Abrams. And their Bible is STINO. and like true beleivers of any religion, if one points out the fallacies and falibilities of their faith, they shut down, put their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and chant "LALA LA I'M NOT LISTENING I'M NOT LISTENING!!!", and invent nonsensical appologetic stuff with no real resemblance to any know reality, just like the creationists.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 10:12:21 AM CST

    So funny how some think that atheists believe in "nothing".

    by knuckleduster

    Actually, they do believe in something. Common sense, motherfucker.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 12:16:49 PM CST

    Knuckleduster

    by asimovlives

    Right on.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 12:33:21 PM CST

    V'Shael

    by asimovlives

    You forgot Pastafarianism.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 12:34:00 PM CST

    And according to an Australian cencus

    by asimovlives

    2% of the population believe in Jedi.

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  • Dec 04, 2009 12:43:16 PM CST

    @AsimovLives

    by v'shael

    Pastafarianism is hardly a religion, or even a cult. It is a satirical invention designed to mock religion.

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  • Dec 05, 2009 3:00:19 PM CST

    Tom Cruise IS Michael Valentine Smith

    by dogu4

    That story of Heinlein and Hubbard seems to have some legs if you listen to some of the interviews with Harlan Ellison. That could be an interesting movie, revealing a lot about the chaotic energy in the early drug fuelled days of the pulp media; predecessor of today's barrage of info we call entertainment.
    Though I would love to see Stranger in a Strange Land made into a decent movie. Or any Heinlein story, really.

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  • Dec 06, 2009 10:32:32 PM CST

    DIURETICS

    by wyatt wingfoot

    The Science Of Matter Over Mind.©

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  • Dec 11, 2009 11:37:59 PM CST

    its GOTTA be Hubbard altho not proven

    by jessespots

    New religions are popping up all the time but I think Scientology is one of the most fascinating in its structure. PTA also has to be fascinated with the subject and hopefully he'll focus on some good story elements.

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