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TRAILER MAN looks at THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, DOGMA, SUPERNOVA and AMERICAN BEAUTY

Published at:  Sep 10, 1999 3:02:14 AM CDT

Hey folks... Harry here. I've been busy as could be, as well as being completely sleepless for a couple of days now. I just have no desire to sleep, and no energy dropoff. I imagine I'm going to crash hard sometime in tonight's realm of updating. Which sucks... cause I have a lot to get into with yall. BUT... for now, here's TRAILER MAN.... Enjoy.




TRAILER MAN here Harry, and before I start, I thought it would be best to address briefly what we originally bounced
around on what makes a great trailer. Some Talk Back comments reveal that many may not be fully aware of the challenges
and restrictions that must be observed when producing a movie preview. A few basics:

1. Trailers cannot exceed 2:30 in length without an appeal and notification to the MPAA and NATO (National Association of
Theatre owners.) However, a studio is allowed one exception in the course of a calendar year. Currently DreamWorks'
"American Beauty" regular trailer is the only extended length preview currently in rotation and clocks in just short of 3:00 mins.
2. The preview 99% of the time has to have been approved for all audiences by the MOTION PICTURE ASSOCIATION
OF AMERICA referred to as a "green band" trailer. This term comes from both the green title card that precedes every trailer
on screen and literally from the green wrap or sticker, that the individual 35 mm trailer is shipped with for easy identification by
the theatre and booth management. On occasion a studio might opt for a "red band" trailer not wishing to make cuts in
language or content. As you'd expect, exposure of trailer is strictly limited to R- rated and, when there actually is one, NC-17
rated films. However a studio's options and opportunities for maximum exposure to all audiences is since disallowed on
PG-13, and PG films films. For example, if the THREE KINGS trailer was rated R due to action violence it could never be
programmed on SIXTH SENSE, a PG-13 rated feature that is drawing big crowds likely be intrigued by the premise of
THREE KINGS.

Apologies to those already aware of this system and my inability to distill shorter these two paragraphs. However now it
should explain the frequent comments of why do previews frequently "soft-pedal" "skirt" or "wimp" on scenes of violence,
language, themes etc. that would TRULY be more representative of the film as a whole.

DOGMA is a perfect example of this conundrum and I think very successful with its shrewd positioning of the film in
playing up its powerhouse cast, marketable director, and arresting visuals, all punctuated by humor and a voice over that
creates appeal with an insouciance both playful and free wheeling. Well the film does indeed deliver all of that. Is it totally
honest in its representation of the film as whole? Honest???? THIS IS MOTION PICTURE MARKETING.....It's about
getting butts-in-seats.........creating awareness............and opening weekend. Saints running abortion clinics, Alanis as GOD,
Catholics, horn-dog angels, a shit-for-brains (and everything else) monster, Papal chicanery etc. all lifted out of context in
two-plus minutes might not play so well in.....well 38 states and 6 Canadian provinces............you get the point.

So, reading from the same page lets check out two new trailers and evaluate their effectiveness by how well they impact
"want-to-see". Harry...can class be dismissed?

THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH (United Artists/MGM) Anyone venturing out to see STIGMATA will undoubtedly see
this the new "regular" Bond trailer that replaces the "teaser" trailer version that has been around for what seems like months. I
can't help but think that if you have a franchise unlike anything in film history (I think this is the 19th), it's as critical to win over
the established fans as it is to generate new devotees. What defines a Bond film...? A dapper lead, big action, sex, drop dead
gorgeous women, nifty locations, chases, outrageous chases, weapons, familiar characters, a global feel, killer gadgetry, more
sex, chaos, jaw dropping stunts, a semblance of plot and a villain- intelligent, maniacal, charismatic, and memorable. Attention
Bond fans! Look no further for this trailer in pulse quickening edits, confidently flaunts all things Bond and then some. Brosnan
is a Bond for the new millennium, Sophie Marceau exudes sex. beauty, and sophistication, Denise Richards delivers....a terrible
line reading but okay she wasn't hired for her thespian qualities, and there are quick cuts of Zukovsky (Robbie Coltrane), Q
(Desmond Llewelyn) showing Bond his new BMW no Z3 here but wait, there's a new face assisting, an inspired piece of
casting if that's really John Cleese, and Judi Dench back as M and in trouble, seriously in danger by a very worthy nemesis,
Robert Carlyle. If he nails his villainy in the entire movie as hinted in the trailer, (how cool, its explained that due to a bullet
lodged in his head he is impervious to pain, which seems to frequently come in handy) coupled with his slightly disfigured, (great
makeup) weasel face, I am sure fans will rejoice once they see this dangerous nuclear weapons expert masterminding global
annihilation and engaging in nefarious intentions with M. Add to that what appears to be London's waterways made mincemeat
in a chase with Bond navigating a high octane "stealth" looking speed boat, helicopters that have attached underneath gigantic
saws that cut into buildings, steel an enormous submarine in what appears as the site for a huge action packed climax. All
winning elements in a 007 film conveyed in no more than 2 minutes and 10 seconds- Efficient, exciting. it is indeed "Bond,
James Bond" and this "World" is truly "Enough".


AMERICAN BEAUTY (DreamWorks) Everyone I hope has seen the regular, three minute trailer for this film. I cannot
think of another preview this year that weaves a spell and creates such a buzz. Now having seen the film, I now know it
admirably captures the off kilter, at times dreamlike essence of the feature. In a film as original as "Beauty" quite possibly this
proved a necessity to prepare the audience for a rewarding, and emotional experience punctuated with humor and startling
character development. No wonder it never felt like three minutes. Now a "review" trailer is being introduced that lifts the best
elements from the original trailer and drops in wonderful quotes, mostly from Rolling Stone, (GREAT ACTING) (GREAT
WRITING) (GREAT DIRECTING)
and it coaches the perception of the film with voice overs "When can a drama be funny?" "When is a comedy dramatic" or
close to that. But marketing at DreamWorks must know they're close to the awareness and positioning of this gem that they
need to be and so as not to tax moviegoers who have seen the original, slash the running time of the trailer by more than 50%
clocking in without losing any of its tone or magic at 1:15. This will allow, I presume, an ability to blitz theatres just prior to
opening since now a much shorter trailer and easier to program on upcoming choice features . Asking the audience to embrace
a funny drama, supported with raves by name critics, then still delivering the arresting visuals and tone of the first trailer speaks
volumes to the passion this studio has demonstrated to do everything possible to nurture the audience for this film. Maybe they
could take on Iron Giant pro bono..

SUPERNOVA (MGM) This is another trailer one should expect to see on "Stigmata". Boom! It's starts off with a few
seconds of zippy distorted electrical pulses and bolts with a searing electronic rushing sound..then the MGM studio logo. Okay
that was an attention grabbing bit of editing since we're so used to footage following studio or production company logo. But
then immediately the incongruous sounds of Counting Crows (I think) layers in during a voice over explaining this is a medical
rescue ship, Nightingale 9 and the team are about to go into some sort of time transportation leap, okay "Dimension Jump"
And boy are they excited since it increases sex drive and lets all screw and party, and what happens on the ship stays on the
ship. What is this American Pie is space? Then a distress signal is received and they pickup a naked guy who evidently
benefited from some sort of intergalactic augmentation since one of the more enlightened babettes on board gasps in delight
staring somewhere south his navel.... then again he's just beaming showing it off undoubtedly from pride of ownership. Hmm
maybe they should have titled the movie Deep Space 9....oh but he is not what he appears and chaos ensues as he morphs into
all kinds of alien looks, causing death and destruction. Hey who changed the music? It's now the classic "Momma told me not
to come"... very clever since, you see, they are dying horrible and painful deaths they probably wished they were not there, get
it?. More destruction (wait that ship has already blown up) explosions and the standard snide, cutesy banter between crew
members that one usually engages while fighting for your lives and seeing your friends crushed or tossed into the oblivions of
space without benefit of a helmet never mind a Met-RX bar for the road. More death and destruction continues caused by
Cosmoshlong cackling now editorial comments as total annihilation nears. Whoosh enter title SUPERNOVA Jan 2000. end
of teaser...... end of Cinefantastique coverstory.....But is it an honest appraisal of the film??????????? I am afraid so.



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    Readers Talkback

  • Sep 10, 1999 5:45:46 AM CDT

    Timothy Dalton

    by cadders

    I agree, Dalton was the best. Here in the UK we just had the whole Bond season on TV and out of them all Timothy Dalton was the most convincing. Thats not saying the Bronsan is bad, with him and Robert Caryle, 'World' will be the biggest Bond yet. Its just there is something very British about Dalton's Bond.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 5:57:50 AM CDT

    Can't wait for all but the last one

    by taitdog

    No matter whether or not I see the preview, I know I'm definitely seeing Dogma on opening day. Kevin Smith is a talented writer-director, and Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are better actors than they're given credit for. So I'll definitely be there for Dogma's opening weekend. TWINE, I know I'll definitely see. I've been a big Bond fan since I was little, and I can't wait. While I thought Dalton was cool as Bond, I think Brosnan is the epitome of the 90s Bond. American Beauty looks great and I love that they use The Who's "Baba O'Reilly" in the trailer, giving homage to an oft-forgotten (and my favorite) Who song. And Supernova...never heard of it, doesn't sound too interesting, I'll just have to wait to either see the trailer myself or read reviews here. Later!

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  • Sep 10, 1999 6:08:12 AM CDT

    Bravo!

    by capt. fantastic

    Trailers -- they're an art form all unto themselves. A really good trailer does exactly yhte kinds of things T-Man has discussed. Bond movies have always done an excellent job (embarrasing, but tingles went down my spine when the first GoldenEye trailer hit and I heard "Bond, James Bond" for the first time in so many years). Can't wait to see American Beauty. SuperNova - looks to be the year 2000's answer to Event Horizon (yeah, I KNOW the editors screwed it up, but cripes, has there ever been a worse movie in space?). Cap out...

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  • Sep 10, 1999 7:17:08 AM CDT

    Bond films. . .

    by madboy

    Well, just opinion here, but I thought Dalton was one of the worst Bonds. . . ever. Brosnan has more suave to him, so he might do better, though I haven't seen the recent one on video. Denise Richards as a. . . nuclear physicist????? Yeah, I'll buy that. She just *looks* sooo smart (snort!). But The bad guy looks cool, so I still have faith in world is not enough. Hopefully it won't let me down. We shall see. . . I fear, however, that the bond films are in danger of becoming an anachronism - the misogyny of the earlier Connery/Moore ones is becoming taboo, and the plots are increasingly familiar. Bond needs a fresh face, and I mean the plots, not the person. We can just hope for the best, I suppose.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 7:43:37 AM CDT

    Dalton is the best Bond

    by darth fart

    I keep saying it, Dalton nailed the character down.
    He showed how Bond operates, not by shagging evcry girl he sees.

    Watch The Living Daylights, see Bond's face when his friend is killed, PERFECTION.

    Just because he isn't suave doesn't make him bad.
    BOND IS A COLD SPY, simple as that.

    Dalton is right out of Fleming's novels.



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  • Sep 10, 1999 7:58:07 AM CDT

    get this guy out of here........

    by byobkenobi

    trailerman, your judgement of a movie based on its theatrical trailer is arrogant presumtion at its worst. you explained to us that dogma "delivers". how the fuck do you know this. for all you know, this movie could shit the bed in the worst way. have you ever see a trailer for a movie and never want to see it? good ol' blockbuster and the nagging girlfriend connive you to pop it in the vcr and uh-oh! MIKEY LIKES IT!! this happens to me time and again and im certain this doesnt only happen to me. So,what im saying is, save your BS review of trailers, take your $7.50 and rent a few movies that "suck" because of your view on the trailer. you never know, you might actually find a new favorite movie.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 9:53:18 AM CDT

    Brosnan is the Millenium Bond - Cuz he's so bland

    by wesley snipes

    I think Joe Don Baker (the dude who plays Jack Wade, the CIA guy who calls 007 'Jimbo') said it best about comparing Brosnan to Connery: "Well, Pierce looks better in a suit." Brosnan is suave and looks great, but he brings very little personality to the role. He's just another stalwart action hero guy. Roger Moore was funny and amusing. Dalton really gave off intensity and determination. And we all know Connery was great ("Yes, Poo-sshy"). So what does Brosnan bring to the table?
    Nothing much. There's nothing particularly wrong with his performance, but nothing particularly notable about it either. That's why he's the best Bond for the current generation - All surface and aesthetics, no substance.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 10:23:06 AM CDT

    Dalton?! Are you all insane?

    by princpl kahotec

    What the hell, why should there be any debate, Dalton was the all time worst Bond ever, period, no more questions asked. Even worse than George Lazenby, and he only had one film to prove his worth. First off Dalton is ugly as fuck, I could never see any women falling for him as a suave super-cool spy. Second, though Roger Moore wins for having the cheesiest bond movies ever, Dalton wins for having the most boring Bond movies ever. I mean who really cares if this crack baby grown up wins or dies, I sure don't. Goldeneye was decent, Tommorrow never Dies was pretty poor, but Brosnan did his best and there were some fun stunt set ups. All together though, with respects to the Van Blaricum family and their obsession, I think the franchise is getting tired. A friend of mine thought Bond should have stayed a Cold War spy, that they should have just kept him in that time frame and not let him come into the nineties, maybe that would have worked, but frankly, it doesen't matter, Bond is nearing an end in my book.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 10:23:17 AM CDT

    You all could've seen it a week ago !

    by robinp

    Exactly a week ago, I sent Harry full details and a link that he could have (but didn't) put on the site so all of you could have enjoyed the trailer yourselves last Friday, instead of reading a retread of it !

    Sometimes I wonder.............

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  • Sep 10, 1999 10:39:39 AM CDT

    MPAA and trailers, etc...

    by obi wan's clone

    So I guess they wanted more quantity of trailers rather than quality. How many people here remember the lies that were told to us about Star Wars not having any trailers in front of it. If they want to limit the time of trailers maybe the should limit the number of them too. I usually figure I can be ten minutes late to a popular movie (assuming it's not sold out and I have friends that can save a seat) at least 5-10 minutes before the actual movie starts. What I like is when they put content in a trailer that is not in the movie to surprise you.

    And what is with there being five introductions to a film these days? When I saw Blair Witch there must have been five trailers and at least five intros to the film (Let's see the theater rules, THX, Dolby Digital, Artisan, etc...) It's getting ridiculous that to see an hour and a half movie it takes two hours.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 10:49:47 AM CDT

    Two types of Bond fans

    by harrison

    I think the current disagreement over Dalton's standing as Bond is rooted in the fact that there are two different types of Bond fans.

    The first is primarily familiar with the Bond from the films and the other is familiar with Bond in both films and books.

    It's the second type of fan that truly appreciates what Timothy Dalton brought to the role of James Bond. He played the part as a man who leads a very dangerous and very solitary existence. A man who has had no qualms about killing and therefore may be less of a human than he wishes to be.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 11:18:24 AM CDT

    Bond

    by crazyman

    I think all Bond fan's know that the 3rd one is the charm if you get that far. Connery:"Goldfinger" Moore:"The Spy who Loved Me" and now Brosnan: "The World Is Not Enough". The 3rd film is usually the high water mark for Bond actors, although I prefer "Thunderball" over "Goldfinger". In my opinion the problem with Dalton's Bond was he was to ordinary. He never came across as a superspy or a cold blooded spy. He seemed like a stupid policeman who's luck ran out after 2 pictures. Brosnan's Bond has proven himself coldblooded in the junkyard scene with the female villain in"Goldeneye" and in the final fight with 006. I think Brosnan has the most potential since Connery to give the ultimate Bond performance.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 11:52:08 AM CDT

    Shaken and Stirred (hopefully)

    by ianmc

    I can't wait to see this trailer, and this film. Bobby Carlisle should do us proud as Renard, and Brosnan provides a very serviceable Bond. I enjoyed TND and loved Goldeneye! On the Dalton question, to my mind, he came across as the Bond from the books - dark and brooding and by far the best actor - he's a proper stage thesp! License to Kill is a particularly good film as well, it helps wipe out the camp-comedy escapades of the latter Roger Moore years. (Although the working title 'License Revoked' would have been better - blame the marketing people, who worried that we might not know what revoked meant! Trivia note - only Roger Moore is actually English! Connery was Scottish, Lazenby Australian, Dalton is Welsh and Brosnan is Irish I believe.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 11:53:21 AM CDT

    Bad, Real Bad

    by gyalwa

    The only hope the Bond films have to continue kicking ass is to get their tongues out of their cheeks and deliver the real goods. The 007 parody has already gone so far over the top that to do it in a half-assed way like they're sure to continue with The World Is Not Enough Already is going to make the final product worse than its own rip-offs. What are the chances that Denise Richards' pretty little head will be decapitated by a steel-brimmed hat? None. Bring back the REAL BOND, whoever the hell plays him. Brosnan doesn't have to be a wuss.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 1:04:59 PM CDT

    some things that must be said

    by jetalone

    OK. 1) I am woman, and I think Timothy Dalton is one hot piece of ass. So don't tell me what I like, Kahotec or whatever your name is. 1a) George Lazenby is 1,000,000 times uglier than Dalton. He makes Clark Gable look like Tyrone Power. 2) I like ALL of the different 007's to some degree. Sean Connery, of course, is THE James Bond. George Lazenby was pretty boring, but he wore clothes well, as he started out as a male model. He managed to not look stupid in a kilt, for one thing. I don't think Roger Moore was handsome, and he was a little too old and out of shape for my taste (particularly by the time of View to a Kill), but he was a good actor and had a sense of humor. Timothy Dalton, like I said, is hot, and also a fine actor; it's not his fault that Living Daylights and Licence to Kill were not up to the same standards as the previous 007 films. They are still entertaining films, however. Finally, Pierce Brosnan is a charming 007 and a very handsome guy. And that's what matters to me, thank you. 3) Dalton was very close in spirit to the 007 of the books (which I love just as much as the films). The story which really nails down 007's personality for me would be "The Hildebrand Rarity", in which Bond contemplates the obvious unhappiness of a rich man's abused wife. Well, he thinks to himself, if she won't bite the bullet and kill him herself, she deserves whatever she gets. Now that's cold. 4) Tomorrow Never Dies was, as Cartman would say, fucking weak. Except for Jonathan Pryce.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 1:31:03 PM CDT

    So........GO SEE IT !!!!!!

    by robinp

    Instead of reading what someone else has seen..........go check the teaser trailer out for yourselves at www.jamesbond.com

    Enjoy, my friends........enjoy !

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  • Sep 10, 1999 3:37:41 PM CDT

    Obi Wan's Clone:

    by revelare

    No, we weren't really lied to about there not being any trailers in front of TPM per se, we were just told they weren't going to be the normal length. They had to be shortened to less than a minute or so. GL didn't want the entire trailer run to take more than 5 minutes. It was in a statement sent out to theaters (as I remember, maybe I'm wrong)

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  • Sep 10, 1999 4:15:10 PM CDT

    Brosnan's Bond

    by mrkearns

    The thing about Brosnan's version of Bond is that I can really picture him, if he wasn't a British spy, as an American yuppy. Connery had that thing about him... he was the embodiment of a playboy. Sure, he was pretty flamboyant for a secret agent (any undercover operative who draws attention at a casino by winning all the time would be killed, come on...), but the movie version of Bond can get away with it. In TND Brosnan was just some guy nobody cared about with a cell-phone and a machine gun. Not Bond. More like, Van Damme in a tux. Although, if the director has an ounce of compentency in him, TWINE could be a *Bond* film... not just another mindless action film worthy of being HBO's "Guilty Pleasure" movie of the week, as TND was. Brosnan makes a good Bond, unfortunately, he wasn't given the chance to show his potential in 'Tomorrow.'

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  • Sep 10, 1999 4:21:57 PM CDT

    42 Up?

    by stephen dedalus

    Michael Apted, the director of the latest Bond entry, is supposed to have made 42 UP, the latest in one of the longest running documentary projects in history. Apted's feature films, such as NELL, are often contrived and fall short of expectations, but his documentaries must be seen. If anyone has any info on 42 UP, please say so. Thanks.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 4:35:20 PM CDT

    Jet alone...how convenient

    by princpl kahotec

    Jet alone, you think Dalton is a hot piece of ass? You will jet alone after comments like that. I think Dalton is a hot pile of something, but that remains to be seen. As for the comments that he is more in tune with the book, who cares, most people enjoy Bond movies for the visual style of the ultra cool secret agent, it was popular in the sixties, and thanks to retro fans and a certain hairy chested goofball (yeah baby!) that kind of style is back, in part. So Bond is still cool, as long as he sticks to an impersonal visual style. You can't tell me that Bond is any type of human, no one man could do all that he has done, I mean he slept with Grace Jones and lived for god sakes, now that right there show's his inhumaness.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 4:46:52 PM CDT

    Jet alone...how convienent

    by princpl kahotec

    Yeah Jet alone, after a comment like, Dalton is one hot piece of ass, I think you will be jetting alone, for ever. I tell you what, Dalton is a big hot pile of something, but what that is remains to be seen. Anyways, the argument over Dalton being more true to the books is bullshit. I'd say the percentage of people who read the books, compared with everyone who sees the movies, is so small that they don't count. The fact is everyone has seen at least one Bond film, or part of one. And he is just known on film as the ultra-cool British secret agent, his persona on film may be different than in the books, but who the hell cares, the movies sell millions in tickets, the books haven't been bestsellars in years. Brosnan plays the film persona, or what we think of Bond as being, quite well, Dalton did not. He played someone he wanted to be not someone we wanted to be, that's it. Oh and jet alone...YOU SUCK! Aren't I mature

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  • Sep 10, 1999 4:51:49 PM CDT

    what the hell

    by princpl kahotec

    how did my shit get put first, when i just posted last, what's up harry, you screwing with my head?

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  • Sep 10, 1999 11:04:14 PM CDT

    Bond

    by lester diamond

    What's wrong with THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS? That is THE most under-rated Bond film. Come on! When he's sliding around in the snow on the cello case? Fuggedaboutit! (Has anyone seen MICKEY BLUE CRAP? I've seen better film on teeth.)
    I think Dalton and Connery were the best. Moore simply doesn't look like Bond. Kudos to him for keeping the franchise alive in the dark ages though. Brosnan is so-so. GOLDENEYE was pretty good, but TND sticks out as the second worst Bond ever. (LIVE AND LET DIE is the worst.)
    I'm surprised that MGM hasn't realized the secret ingredient to Bond films. Henchmen. Nine out of ten people on the street don't know who Blofeld is, but they all remember Oddjob. TND had a good one. "I once tortured someone for two days, Mister Bond. I hope to break that record."
    Let's start a campaign to bring back Chris Walken as Max Zorg.

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  • Sep 11, 1999 9:31:47 PM CDT

    Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby as Bond?

    by litestorm

    There can be no arguement that Connery was the best Bond. Followed by Brosnan and then by Moore. Roger Moore started quite well but towards the end he was just too old. A View to A Kill would rank as one of the the worst Bond films ever, behind the George Lazenby stinker "On her Majesty's Secret Service" which is the worst Bond film of all followed closely by "License to Kill". As for Dalton as Bond, although "Living Daylights" was passable, Dalton himself was quite unsuited to the role. The guy acted like he would rather be in any other film but that one. About "License to Kill", obviously the less said the better. People just did not accept dalton's Bond and the film did poorly at the box office. As for Brosnan he was good in "Goldeneye" the film itself was fairly good and Brosnan was more sure of himself in "Tomorrow Never Dies", although the film was less a "Bond" film and more an action film. The audiences loved it though. My concern for "TWINE" is same as it was with the last two Bond films, the Director, Michael Apted does not have much of a track record of directing a Bond like film. But you would have said the same thing about Martin "Goldeneye" Campbell and Roger "Tomorrow Never Dies" Spottiswoode. Hope Apted can pull it off like the last two. And finally, "TWINE" and "End of Days" are opening within 5 days of each other and both films have received very strong test screenings either MGM or Universal should move the release date of one of the films so they don't overlap each other so much and give both films a decent chance at the box office.

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  • Sep 11, 1999 11:43:47 PM CDT

    it's fun to be attacked!

    by jetalone

    Sorry, Kahotec, but I must respectfully disagree. I guess you and I just like different kinds of men. ;-) Anyway, on a totally different subject, everyone knows that the worst 007 flicks were Man With the Golden Gun (also has the worst theme song, sung by Lulu of all people--no Shirley Bassey she) and Moonraker. Hands down. TND is close, though. OHMSS benefitted from the presence of Diana Rigg, and it's actually not a bad flick.

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  • Sep 12, 1999 11:26:47 AM CDT

    The World is not Enough

    by fletchlives

    Just watched OHMSS this weekend. Did you know that the Bond Coat of Arms has the family motto (or whatever) of,

    "The WOrld is not Enough"

    Interesting. Havn't heard anyone mention that before.

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  • Sep 12, 1999 6:48:30 PM CDT

    Bond, Dalton, etc.

    by dhartung

    I think it's funny that Dalton wasn't even brought up in the original article but has been mentioned by half the posters. The thing is, Dalton really was the best Bond -- assuming you believe that the movies should be faithful representations of the books. Now, I know what I like, but I also know the difference. Dalton is my favorite, but I know that Brosnan has been a terrific success for the series (two $300M films would be a success for ANY series). In my dreams, he would be replaced in time by Russell Crowe doing his best imitation of an English "Bud White" ... but then, I know that wouldn't be a smart business choice. Also, if you're any kind of hardcore Bond fan, you know that On Her Majesty's Secret Service is one of the best in the whole series: even if you don't think much of Lazenby, it's more than made up for by the sharp direction, inspired locations, and the welcome presence of Diana Rigg. I just love that chase sequence, where Bond genuinely feels himself in danger, that starts up again THREE TIMES! Anyway, that's what the core Bond fans think, not necessarily what movie audiences think, alas. Back to TWINE: I'm no Brosnan fanboy, but I think he's been fine in the role; Goldeneye, with minor exceptions, was as good as any superior entry in the series. TND may have been a mis-step, but hardly the first in a 19-film series, and my expectation is that they will have recovered nicely with TWINE. From all indications, that's true. I can hardly wait for November ...

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  • Sep 15, 1999 5:26:33 PM CDT

    The better bond?

    by bozzutoman

    With the exception of David Niven (remember Casino Royale?)I think all the incarnations of Bond have had strengths and weaknesses. Connery was ultra suave, and ruthless, but he dared to make the ultimate insult, Never Say Never Again. Lazenby was quite adequate and got to say the best line in a bond flick ever--on the beach: "This never happened to the other guy!" Moore, well... uh... he's a good actor, but just way too foppish. He had some real good scenes, and he got to do a love scene with Jane Seymore in her prime (mmmmmmmm...Jane....), but during his tenure, Bond was more comedy and parody than Action-spy-flick. Dalton showed a hard edge, but was a little too shakespearean. Brosnan, he gives a hint of human vulnerability, yet seems like a veteran at facing and spreading death. There is a scene in Goldeneye where he's setting a bomb, and a bullet breaks off some debris from the wall. His face as he shrugs it off is priceless. Even in TND, the evil grin he makes while remotely driving the car were fantastic. However the line "you always were a cunning linguist" was an childish line. They might as well had a fart joke. Brosnan seems a little flat at times, but I fear it's a director/script fault. I would really like to see a Bond flick that the plot was developed before locations or stunts.

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  • Sep 20, 1999 1:16:17 AM CDT

    Best Bonds

    by daredevil

    Man! I can't believe the differences of opinion on this board! I've seen one person or another say that all the Bonds have stunk except for Connery. I've also seen many people say Bond flicks suck which I think are some of the best, and others say that some movies were great when I think they were some of the worst. Me personally, like Connery best (of course), then Dalton second (he has the cold-blooded killer in him, as well as the very dry humor without the stupid one liners), I don't dislike any of them (although Lazenby and Moore didn't look the part), and Moore's films were more a victim of the times than anything. So, instead of arguing, I'll just list my favorites/least favorites, and you can go, "what the...? what's he thinking?" and get on with your lives.
    *Favorites (in no real order):
    From Russia With Love,
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service,
    Live and Let Die,
    For Your Eyes Only,
    The Living Daylights.
    *Worst:
    Man With the Golden Gun,
    Moonraker,
    A View to A Kill.

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  • Sep 06, 2006 11:12:46 AM CDT

    Does he have rednecks living inside him?

    by wolfpack

  • Sep 06, 2006 11:13:14 AM CDT

    His archnemesis would be Tornado Man.

    by wolfpack

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