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Hercules Deems Tonight’s Observer-Centric FRINGE The Best of The Season!!

Published at:  Nov 19, 2009 11:57:03 AM CST

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I am – Hercules!!

Fringe 2.8 FAQ

What’s it called?
“August.”

Who’s responsible?
Teleplay is credited to showrunners Jeff Pinkner (“Lost”) & J.H. Wyman (“Keen Eddie”), who previously teamed on the teleplay for 2.2, “Night of Desirable Objects.”

What says Fox?
“When a peculiar abduction occurs in Boston, the Fringe team uncovers details of the mysterious man known as The Observer. While the bizarre case takes center stage, Walter, Peter and Astrid hit the lab to analyze unusual evidence and deal with Walter's insatiable appetite for a milkshake.”

“Walter's insatiable appetite for a milkshake”?
His favorite ice cream shop shut down the day before and he’s busy trying to recreate something called “The Strawberry Supreme.”

What “unusual evidence” does Walter, Peter and Astrid analyze?
A notebook left by an Observer near the site of a dramatic incident.

Don’t the observers write in some weird right-to-left script?
“I have counted 1,246 characters and not a single one repeats,” points out linguists major Astrid. “Without repeated symbols, language is not possible.” (While the Chinese language utilizes more than 50,000 characters, they do repeat on occasion.)

What else is Fox not telling us?
“Whatever William Bell was warning Olivia about? These people have the answers,” Peter tells Walter. “I can feel it.”

Does Massive Dynamic figure into the story at all?
Peter and Olivia pay Bell’s company a visit this week.

The big news?
An Observer does a lot more than observe this week.

Is this big news? Didn’t an Observer help Walter plug a hole between Earth I and Earth II late last season? And didn’t he save Walter and Peter from drowning decades ago?
This time the action is far more conspicuous.

Is tonight’s episode any good?
It is easily the strongest episode of the season to date. I wouldn’t trust this one to a DVR; watch “Fringe” and record “The Office.”

Did Walter somehow create the Observers?
If he did, we don’t learn this week. But we learn there’s a heretofore undisclosed connection between Walter and the mysterious bald ones.

Do we learn why they appear to be able to read minds?
Theories will form.

What’s good?
August. Donald. Broyles still wearing a sling from last week’s adventures. John Noble generally and his reading of Walter’s account of an encounter with a chili pepper in particular. Peter firing off the last round. “What’s about to happen?” “It will be just a minute now.” “We’ve already seen to it.” “Your friend and I had a deal. An arrangement.” “I suspect that they might be occupied right now.” “You have solved such a matter before.”

What’s not so good?
Another hiatus. Next Thursday is Thanksgiving and Fox is airing “Night at the Museum.” 2.9, titled “Snakehead,” airs Dec. 3, and that could be it for the year. Fox’s description of “Snakehead” is cloaked in spoiler-hiding invisotext. “After a cargo ship runs aground, the shoreline becomes littered with bodies hosting a giant squid-like creature. The Fringe team descends upon the scene to examine the bodies and discovers that the mysterious organisms are actually giant parasites. As the investigation unfolds, Walter heads back to the lab while Olivia, Peter and Broyles race against time when they realize the case has ties to a threatening organization.”

How does it end, spoiler-boy?
Olivia clenches her eyes shut.

9 p.m. Thursday. Fox.



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    Readers Talkback

  • Nov 19, 2009 2:54:20 AM CST

    I will observe the observers tonight!

    by ottomatic

  • Nov 19, 2009 2:57:16 AM CST

    Move it back to Tuesdays....

    by dj_bollocks

    There I said it...

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  • Nov 19, 2009 3:13:51 AM CST

    The show has really worn me out.

    by juansanchez

    Don't really see switching to NBC's block as much of an option, but man - my interest in Fringe has plummeted.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 3:15:24 AM CST

    And Olivia - does anyone care about her?

    by juansanchez

    What her past is, what her powers are... does anyone give a shit?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Nov 19, 2009 3:45:30 AM CST

    I care

    by toonol

    I really do.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 3:49:56 AM CST

    I call bullshit

    by centilope

    The photo of all the merchandise you are getting for posting these glowing Fringe reviews doesn't exactly convince me to watch.
    Neither does the quality of the previous episodes. Lost and X-Files were shows that got me hooked from the get-go. When Fringe can't do that after 1 & 1/3 of a season, it speaks volumes about its quality. I'll take Supernatural over this any day.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 4:33:20 AM CST

    I do not know a single person

    by drsambeckett1984

    who watches this show. I gave up after the pilot.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 4:34:05 AM CST

    I want this show to be good, it has potential.

    by tomonicker

    And it also has entropy dragging it down- I want to see less Monster of the Week shit, more doppelganger and alien shenanigans. Where the fuck is evil Walter, etcetera? Less deus ex machina for sure...

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  • Nov 19, 2009 4:57:01 AM CST

    Oh please

    by hst666

    Lost and the X-Files aren't a pimple on the ass of this show.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 5:36:40 AM CST

    "Olivia clenches her eyes shut"??

    by spud mcspud

    How the f--- is that a spoiler? Isn't it one of only about four facial expressions that Anna Torv is capable of?? Spoiler my arse...

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  • Nov 19, 2009 5:42:40 AM CST

    centilope has a point, Herc

    by spud mcspud

    FRINGE is into its second season and we're averaging one "awesome!" episode per five or six "meh" episodes. Not a good batting average. And the awesome ones are usually the parallel universe mythology or season finale eps, which are SUPPOSED to be awesome! So do us all a favour, Herc... Stop pushing this lame duck of a show and give us a SUPERNATURAL TB on the main page. Go on. Let go your conscious self, and stretch out with your feelings!

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  • Nov 19, 2009 5:43:40 AM CST

    hst666

    by spud mcspud

    And with that statement, any geek cred you may have had is sailing past the event horizon of the biggest black hole of the Suckage nebula. Give up and go home, son.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 6:10:15 AM CST

    screw you all

    by altoandando

    yes I care about her, yes I'm watching, it's incredible fiction compared to the rest of the pap that's on. she's SUPPOSED to be damaged goods, that's her character, STFU and go watch your Gossip Girl reruns and stop recycling the same stupid jokes about her.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 7:26:53 AM CST

    I'm still watching!

    by isleptwithkathybatesandallthatigotwasthi

    *Waves from back of the room*I'm here! I'm observing! I like Fringe!

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  • Nov 19, 2009 8:07:59 AM CST

    I also like Fringe

    by maelstrom_zero

    But I also recognize that the level of quality has been pretty terrible. I think only the season premiere really managed to tickle my interest; all the other episodes this season have focused far too much on monster of the week episodes to actually contribute anything to the massive parallel universe arc that they set up in the middle of last season. Why they're stalling like this and not moving on with the story, I have no idea.
    Hopefully though, tonight's episode will be good. I'm looking forward to it. Most of the observer-centric episodes last season were also pretty awesome.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 8:29:45 AM CST

    Re : spud mcspud

    by real deal

    We got it! You don't like Fringe! You don't have to post 3 times in a row to prove it to us. Fringe is quite simply the best TV out there right now! Sorry you can't see that.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 8:32:24 AM CST

    Re : maelstrom_ZERO Nov 19th, 2009

    by real deal

    Whilw I'll agree it hasn't had the record the first season had you didn't like " Momentum Defered " with Nimoy? I thought that episode was really good.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 8:47:16 AM CST

    i loves me some fringe..

    by soup74

    but have to admit i am getting a little annoyed at the monster of the week episodes.i know they set out to follow to x-files formula, but they did it so well in season 1, mixing the monster of week with a bit of mythology, but season 2 has so far been a bit extreme with the mythology/ standalone X4/ mythology format.I'm in it for the long haul though, and im pretty happy to be getting a mythology episode this week.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:05:23 AM CST

    FRINGE is only good when focusing on its own mythology

    by spyguy

    Otherwise, FRINGE is simply an updated version of THE X-FILES with different characters. Hell, the episode cloaked in invisotext reminds me a lot of the Flukeman episode.

    C'mon, FRINGE! Step your game up!

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:10:57 AM CST

    No Woodward goodness?

    by gislef_crow

    Edward's son Peter (Galen on Crusade, creepy child-killing Apocalypse-obsessed hell-escapee/priest on Brimstone) is playing one of the Observers.
    As far as monster-of-the-week, when it adds to the mythos of the fringe stuff, it's good. Of Human Action, for instance, tied in with Massive Dynamic's experiments. Fracture hinted at the government's battle against the Parallelers. Earthling tossed in the CIA and the Russian Fringe division. But Dream Logic and the crappy Night of Desirable Objects... eh.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:22:28 AM CST

    Forget Fringe Harry review Misfits

    by lane_myers111

    Its criminal you havent reviewed or given an opinion on new british superhero show "Misfits"..first episode aired last monday and the second is tonight. Great first episode. Brilliant script,interesting characters,very promising. Its like a dirtier version of heroes (or xmen). What other show has a scene of one girl running from a psychotic killer being combined with a young hot chick giving some pretty good simulated head to a bottle.answer "misfits"

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:41:34 AM CST

    Herc

    by judge briggs

    You cock teased with an observer ep last week... you led us to believe that the observer ep was last week... ?!

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:42:21 AM CST

    X-Files and Jon Pertwee era Doctor Who...

    by mistere

    I watched the first 10 "Fringe" episodes months ago, lost interest, and then marathoned the rest of season one and the aired season two episodes a couple of weeks ago. Wow, what a roller coaster ride of quality this show has been. Season two has been pretty damn dull.

    As others continue to mention, this show is more of an X-Files rip-off than an homage. It's also a bit reminiscent of Jon Pertwee era Doctor Who (my favorite Doctor), where the Doctor was marooned on Earth and working with UNIT. That era of Doctor Who pummels "Fringe".

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:59:19 AM CST

    A great show to watch on Hulu while playing Tetris

    by greggers

    All you have to do is just pause Tetris when it sounds like something interesting might be happening.

    And we're all on the same page with the fact that Peter is actually the Peter from the parallel universe, whom Walter kidnapped to replace the Peter from this universe who'd died, right?

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  • Nov 19, 2009 11:43:17 AM CST

    yeah greggers

    by soup74

    peter being from 'over there' is more or less been established. which pretty much makes the most popular theory being that the leader of the bad guys is a pissed off 'over there walter.' we'll see though, there seems to be more to the story.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 11:51:11 AM CST

    V, Fringe, FlashForward, etc

    by yourstepdaddy

    Im diggin most of the genre shows on TV now (well only on ABC and Fox) but I think Ive been spoiled by LOST so much far as storytelling and creative ideas, that these shows seem weaker in their mythology, and I love mythology within shows. Hopefully V comes back, they keep FF around a lil longer (it is quite interestin cept the father-daughter storyline), and Fringe needs to show more of the central pattern stories

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  • Nov 19, 2009 11:56:10 AM CST

    These Observers...

    by ribbons

    ...they show up at moments of great historical import or upheaval, they're bald, and they're (in theory) only supposed to "observe." Is one of them named Uatu, by any chance?

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  • Nov 19, 2009 12:00:03 PM CST

    SQUID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by hobocode

  • Nov 19, 2009 12:02:03 PM CST

    Herc...

    by red ned lynch

    ...I surely do hope you're right. This hasn't been great so far this season. One could almost say it hasn't been good. But the Walter/Peter relationship is one of the more interesting father son relationships to have shown up on television in awhile, and the last few episodes of season one hinted at what the show could be. Let's hope it gets there.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 12:02:48 PM CST

    Drsambeckett1984

    by shodan6672

    OK, so you have ADHD and can't focus on a show that just gotten better as it has progressed. Why exactly did you post again?

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  • Nov 19, 2009 12:20:51 PM CST

    man...

    by dollar bird

    ... This show had better start to get rolling this season. I've skipped episodes and even turned others off 15 minutes before they end because they're so boring. They've hooked me with a cool mythology, but all these episodes of weird murders has got to stop. Get back to the cool stuff and stop wasting my time.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 12:31:14 PM CST

    Move it to Friday nights at nine!

    by growltiger

    If Fringe wants to be The X Files it should embrace its Friday night fate! I think I am joking. Or not.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 4:13:28 PM CST

    Walter's connection to the Bald Dudes

    by zedul

    I think they understand that Walter's "real" son Peter, died as a child. And that he is actually another version of himself that Water took from the other dimension. Did the other's "help" him do this? It sounds like Peter came through in a car wreck the same way Olivia did.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 4:17:18 PM CST

    I thought Herc hated this show?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Nov 19, 2009 5:54:03 PM CST

    Can't wait

    by nippleeffect

    Damn you Anna Torv for getting married just as this show hits the air!
    It makes lusting after you feel almost creepy.
    almost

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:20:14 PM CST

    Great episode

    by jaysin420

    and I highly doubt anybody has got the balls to a cancel a JJ Abrams show anytime soon.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:20:25 PM CST

    Awesome episode !

    by pumaman

    And also very moving. I didn't like the fat older observer though at all.
    Compared to the others he just looked like a fat old dude with no hair.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:29:04 PM CST

    yeah, that was the best ep of the season

    by judge briggs

    $5 the observers are angels!

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:33:52 PM CST

    4 bald guys in black suits just gangraped

    by itchy

    my brain and came all over the inside of my skull. I don't know what the fuck just happened in that episode, but I liked it more than I like thinking about Kate Bekcinsale's puckered bunghole.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 9:42:29 PM CST

    The next episode..

    by pumaman

    Looks friggin amazing too... The trailer is already on Youtube

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  • Nov 19, 2009 10:01:06 PM CST

    Not the best episode overall

    by dogrobber

    I like this show but this episode was way too derivative of other shows/movies involving time travel (current Doctor Who, Time Shifters, etc.). Heck, I expected the M.D. scientist to start explaining that the Observers saw time from a non-linear, non-subjective perspective (timey-wimey). It wasn't a bad set-up for future episodes, though.

    And I still say that this Peter is Walter's genetically-altered clone.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 10:56:12 PM CST

    Enjoyed the episode...

    by seanny_d

    But I kind of wish August didn't say that he loved the girl. I wish it would have been more implied. Since it seemed to me to be pretty obvious when he was explaining to Walter. I really hope that it propels the mythology forward a bit over the next several episodes, thought. And can we get some ZFT info sometime soon? Just because Mr. Jones is dead doesn't mean that they're done and out of business.

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  • Nov 19, 2009 11:49:50 PM CST

    Pretty good ep.

    by catvutt

    Peter firing off 'the last round' was a nice touch. Clearly they're angling for him being able to use their technology because he's from their dimension. Wonder how long before he figures it out.

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  • Nov 20, 2009 2:12:58 AM CST

    Finally caught up on Fringe this evening. Hurry up & wait.

    by tomonicker

    Last week's mind control monster had my normally forgiving roomate frothing at the mouth about Peter's inability to smack the non-mindreading kid when there seemed ample opprotunity to distract the brat with a karate chop to the larynx. Screw that he was a kid, he'd killed like seven people already. The dragging out of the Walter/Peter angle is slowly starting to poison me against this show. Yes, I know LOST plays the same game, but if Fringe's non-mythology stuff or character arc's had enough meat on them, I'd be sated enough not to notice so much how slow it's dribbling out. Perhaps this is how it is, Walter2 is dead. He must be or else we'd seen Evil Walter on the scene sooner, right? "GIVE ME BACK MY SON!" (thanks, Mel) Perhaps, though, Mom2 is still alive. Whatever, if they don't get rolling soon, I won't care. :-/

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  • Nov 20, 2009 2:33:25 AM CST

    save peter from drowning?

    by punto

    didn't he actually drown, and the observer helped Walter kidnap Peter from the other dimension?

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  • Nov 20, 2009 4:55:58 AM CST

    youtube preview for next week..

    by jimbonx

  • Nov 20, 2009 4:58:19 AM CST

    ...

    by jimbonx

    looks exactly like an xfiles ep when they were in antarctica with the parasitic worm??

    goddam why even bother, FOCUS ON MYTHOLOGY PLS!!!

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  • Nov 20, 2009 5:11:14 AM CST

    BEST EPISODE THIS SEASON

    by oriongods

    WELL ACTED.

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  • Nov 20, 2009 7:06:02 AM CST

    the most blatant product placement ever

    by tonagan

    When Olivia and Peter are riding in their FORD and she uses SYNC to call someone, then switches back to listening to their SIRIUS/XM radio but then uses the VOLUME CONTROL ON THE STEERING WHEEL to turn the music down. Sheesh, it's like those "Slow Burn" dealies on Heroes.

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  • Nov 20, 2009 7:38:33 AM CST

    Spoiler's for the next episode of X-FILES--errrrr, FRINGE

    by spyguy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_(The_X-Files)

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  • Nov 20, 2009 8:30:31 AM CST

    Finally They Return To What Made Fringe Great!

    by real deal

    This was a really good episode in the tradition of the first season. Loved the episode and want to know more about the observers. If they would do more of these and a little less of the stand alones we'd be just like the first season. I think that might be where we are going. A lot of shows that have a main story arc are slow to build during the first part of the season and then concentrate on the good stuff. It feels like that might be happening ( " she looks so happy. Too bad things are about to become so hard for her " ).

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  • Nov 20, 2009 11:53:04 AM CST

    Awesome episode

    by captainaxis

    I liked the different Observers, it's a pretty cool concept. And does anybody, outside of the sheltered nerds on AICN talkbacks, really care if the Observers are similar to some obscure comic-book character? Anyway, this season has been a little uneven but still better than most of the bland, processed crap on TV. I have to laugh at the emotionally stunted manchildren who consistently turn up in Fringe talkbacks to pimp Supernatural and claim that it's a better show. Sure, it's a fun little program but it's too light and fluffy to be taken seriously. Fringe has some intellect and a worldview behind it - the idea of unchecked technological advances and scientists playing God. The two shows are as different as apples and bubblegum.

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  • Nov 20, 2009 3:34:49 PM CST

    what is this thing you call... LOVE?

    by jamf

    fringe: always at the cutting egde of science fiction drama.

    and yes that product placement was really noticable. wtf.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE

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  • Nov 20, 2009 3:37:18 PM CST

    oh yeah...

    by jamf

    saw FF after fringe - so they spent a whole ep about the fat guy NOT meeting the jap?! WOW. at least they showed why he wanted to kill himself - but no reason for why he decided to do it by blowing his head off at THE BEACH of all places!? what a moron!

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  • Nov 20, 2009 4:02:35 PM CST

    One thing this show got right...

    by i hope you die

    I like Olivia's character now. They managed to humanize her in a natural way. Now it's Peter and Walter I find annoying. They need to wrap that arc up.

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  • Nov 20, 2009 4:43:01 PM CST

    one thing

    by oriongods

    is peter a clone or did walter take him from the other side

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  • Nov 20, 2009 7:49:30 PM CST

    Re : ORIONgods

    by real deal

    It's pretty obvious that peter is alternate Peter from the other universe. Walter even said he took from the other side what was lost to him here.

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  • Nov 20, 2009 7:50:16 PM CST

    Re : ORIONgods

    by real deal

    The thing I wonder about is the other Walter.

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  • Nov 20, 2009 7:55:18 PM CST

    Fringe

    by alexgk

    This is a very good show, and I agree..when focusing on the overall mythology it is far more interesting. Otherwise it really is an updated X-Files. But the doc and Pete are pretty damn entertaining every week.

    I can't wait to see how the observers actually interfered and the "deal" that was made..

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  • Nov 20, 2009 8:31:22 PM CST

    http://twitpic.com/qar80

    by coup

  • Nov 20, 2009 9:48:40 PM CST

    Thoroughly disagree

    by 100proof

    ... with those who complain about monster-of-the-week episodes. X-Files went to shit when it ceased being about investigating unusual phemonena and became solely about the show's mostly boring grander conspiracy. The first couple of seasons not only developed the characters, but also had a lot of fun one-offs.

    I like Fringe at this point because it's still got a good mix of advancing the characters' arcs, building an interesting mythology, and investigating fun monster-of-the-week stuff. You can't produce 20+ hours of mythology stuff a year without getting boring and convoluted. Post-season 3 or 4 X-Files already proved that.

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  • Nov 20, 2009 10:30:38 PM CST

    Kick Ass episode!

    by zillabeast

    I agree with the above poster - move FRINGE back to Tuesdays! Tuesdays at 9/10 Central so that we can switch from ABC to FOX right after LOST to get our double dose of awesomenesss!

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  • Nov 21, 2009 12:27:18 AM CST

    If they move Fringe back to Tuesdays...

    by nasty in the pasty

    ...it'll be competing directly with Lost, which is STUPIDLY being moved to Tuesdays.

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  • Nov 21, 2009 6:54:11 AM CST

    Spoiler: Theory about Observer[1]'s gun.

    by sebilrazen

    I think only extradimensional (from outside our dimension) beings can use it, hence the reason Peter was able to fire it and nobody back at the FBI was able to.

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  • Nov 21, 2009 9:02:42 AM CST

    Fantastic Episode

    by pumaman

    In fact, so damn good, I'm going to watch it again

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  • Nov 22, 2009 10:42:32 AM CST

    The big mystery

    by geekchick

    Bishop is bad in the alternate universe. He is pissed because he lost his son. He is the mastermind behind it all. That is how the Bishop in this universe knows so much.

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  • Nov 22, 2009 5:17:37 PM CST

    zillabeast

    by bastian1138

    The problem with that...Fox doesn't broadcast programming at 10pm....kinda like NBC now.

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