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Chris Elliott To Play Right-Wing TV Action Star In Conaco Cable Sitcom Pilot EAGLEHEART!!
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Here’s one to root for!
Comedy genius Chris Elliott has signed to star in “Eagleheart,” a live-action Adult Swim pilot from Conan O’Brien’s production company Conaco.
The Hollywood Reporter has its enormously promising premise:
… centers on a low-level television executive sent to Texas to produce the action series "Eagleheart." He finds himself stuck in a never-ending power struggle with his temperamental star/creator/exec producer (Elliott), a veteran action star past his prime who uses the show as a soapbox for his right-wing politics and conservative paranoia.
"Parks and Recreation" star Aziz Ansari tells AICN exclusively:
Dude - Eagleheart is FUCKING HYSTERICAL.
No word on whether or not Elliott’s character is based on outspoken Republican, Creationism follower, prayer-in-school advocate and “Walker Texas Ranger” star Chuck Norris.
Recall that O’Brien and fellow SNL vet Robert Smigel previously created “Lookwell,” another pilot about a deluded over-the-hill TV star.
Michael Koman and Andrew Weinberg, veterans of “Saturday Night Live,” “The Colbert Report,” “Important Things With Demetri Martin” and “Late Night With Conan O’Brien,” scripted the pilot.
Elliott worked for O'Brien's "Late Night" predecessor David Letterman for years, first as a writer-performer on "Late Night" and later as a supporting player on Worldwide Pants' "Everybody Loves Raymond." If the "Eagleheart" pilot goes to series, this will mark Elliott's first lead role in a sitcom since the 1990-1992 Fox series "Get A Life."
Find all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.
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Oh, a comedy making fun of right wingers. Really daring, that hasn't been done before.
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...to say his daughter is smokin' hot?
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condescending, Herc. Some of us are Christians, you know. I don't care what you think about us, just tell us the story.
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...it was a fucking nailgun, not a stapler.
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Interesting Herc finds it okay to bash Christians. I wonder if he would do the same to Muslims or Jews?
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- do I hate them Fancy Lads."
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I'm a Christian. Makes your head spin, don't it?
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I know I'm supposed to hate all Christians, but I confess I find a lot of them curiously likeable.
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Christian Shephard Christian Cage Sister Christian Kristian Alfonso for being different and spelling her name with a K...
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Really Herc? Bad move hating on the Christians? I think it's a tad hypocritical. AICN's bread and butter relies almost exclusively on deluded, obsessed, sexually fixated neurotics that believe in made up mythical fantasy characters with absolutely no basis in reality. You've crossed a line sir. I think you should apologize.
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Would never have the balls to insult any other religion, especially any Middle Eastern or Eastern ones, but keep poking at the ones close to home. Way to keep a fan base.
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...for mentioning the fairly obvious inspiration for Elliot's character. A character that will more than likely get your panties in a bunch worse than his fairly accurate description of Chuck. He didn't knock Christianity, he merely pointed out the basis of Chuck's campaign and talk show appearances in recent years. Thinking every Christian fully supports all aspects of the religion such as creationism or "issues" like prayer in school (we don't), is as retarded as thinking every Muslim is a terrorist/evil... ...but then again, that's another one of those bible thumper misconceptions.
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...inadvertently peg Herc as a Christian there. He clearly stated otherwise above.
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If you believe in imaginary friends you need to have a sense of humour about it. If Christians have the right to knock on our doors to tell us we are ignorant and living incorrectly and likely to burn in hell or chase us down the street with a megaphone and a fist full of flyers demanding we repent:- Surely we can reserve the right to mock them for being the extremists and fantasists they so clearly sre...?
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will they mention the larry sanders episode where he produces a pilot script with chris elliot, after working a devlopment deal in on his lat contract, next conan will be hiring tom snyder for the late show.
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I think you're thinking of a different group, there. . .
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I've never been abused, insulted or harangued by Muslims or Jews or Hari Krishnas. Juuust the Christians
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Though, mynamesdan; I don't know too many Christians who bomb Israeli school children, either.
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1: Christians
2: White people
3: Republicans
That concludes our list. Serve up them fastballs, yuck, yuck. -
(with incisive satire, of course) - be they smug atheists, candy-ass Christians, lunatic Muslims, shallow Jews, bull-headed Buddhists, Shinto-shit-heels, fiendish dentists, misogynist accountants, entitled ten-year-olds, or abused and wrathful dogs. Leave the decent, humble, generous, thoughtful people alone, and that type is represented in all those groups, too. Making fun of an egomaniacal television produser who evangelizes the most shallow understanding of Christian values is not like calling Mother Theresa a whore. If you are fixated on how Herc and Conan and Chris Elliot are anti-Christian, you are an idiot worthy of satirizing.
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(with incisive satire, of course) - be they smug atheists, candy-ass Christians, lunatic Muslims, shallow Jews, bull-headed Buddhists, Shinto-shit-heels, fiendish dentists, misogynist accountants, entitled ten-year-olds, or abused and wrathful dogs. Leave the decent, humble, generous, thoughtful people alone, and that type is represented in all those groups, too. Making fun of an egomaniacal television produser who evangelizes the most shallow understanding of Christian values is not like calling Mother Theresa a whore. If you are fixated on how Herc and Conan and Chris Elliot are anti-Christian, you are an idiot worthy of satirizing.
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you don't know anyone who bombs Israeli schoolchildren, and you don't know anyone who treats Palestinian children as expendable insurgents either. Neither do I. I do know an awful lot of deluded fundamentalist Christians, though, and they want to teach my children that evolution is as likely as creation. And they think they're doing God's work.
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Brett Ratner is one poor filmmaker! And Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is mean!
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And I still want my Get a Life complete box set.
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Or are you all a bunch of paranoid pussies?
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How did this TB of a Chris Elliot adult swim show turn into this? Good job Herc!
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Anyone know what that was?Will we see phase 2?
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to you people say "why don't you bash other religions" - it's because Christianity is the dominant religion (or more accurately umbrella of religions) herein the US. Most of us who do bash it were raised Christian. If the ranks of AICN writers were filled with Muslims and Jews, I am sure you would see more jokes at the expense of other religions.
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Uhm...where did he insult any religion up above? Maybe he insulted Chuck Norris, but it's a stretch to even see that...
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You bunch of paranoid, delusional, hypocritical pussies.
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"his right-wing politics and conservative paranoia." Wow, hatred of conservatives (or just anyone to the right of Lenin). We've never seen *that* before from Hollywood.
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I'm a Christian myself, and I don't approve of most of us. If Chuck Norris really is a "prayer in school,creationism follower" then he does deserve to be taken down a peg or two, because being an advocate of prayer in school is fucked up. I love my religion, but that doesn't make any of that stuff acceptable. Seperation of church and state is a really important thing, and no Christians seem to understand that. They want to indoctrinate, and thats what it is, all children into believing what we do...and that isn't right. Christians are probably, for the most part, the most fucked up group of people on the plant. Jesus said to LOVE. Most Christians I know only know how to HATE.
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I didn't find anything the least bit insulting about that post, nor do I think the vast majority would. I'm more offended by those who assume we must all share some crazy Fundamentalist viewpoint... or are naive enough to support teaching Creationism in the classroom. Hell, even if we were all Christians in the country, you still have Catholics, Protestants, Baptists, Methodists... Do you really think we could agree on one interpritation of things to have the government teach our children? Not to mention that every effort to make the Biblical creation story something akin to literal, scientific theory is moronic. It's frightening to me when even the Vatican is more progressive than the outspoken people held up as the examples of Christians in this country. The majority of scientists, teachers and yes, even liberals in this nation are Christian. We need to stop allowing fundamentalists to be the face of the whole religion just as much as the Muslims do.
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The Adult Swim powers that be are experimenting with doing late-late night/early-early morning programming that mimics the similar fare in the same time slot on other channels. This is going to include fake infomercials (Icelandic Ultra Blue) and fake religious programming. They showed a snippet of Icelandic Ultra Blue at DragonCon, but that was all they had at the time.
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Insult and ridicule the Christian faith, the worst you get is words of protest or refusal to buy a sponsor's product. Insult Islam, your ass gets death threats. That's why liberal douche bags like Herc never lack the courage to dump on Christians while giving each other high-fives or slapping each other on the back for a job well done.
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her mom looks like, because she definitely don't get her looks from her daddy
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Also as a Christian, I want to bang Abby Elliot until she realizes her mistake!
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Eventually someone, probably some cynical atheist, is going to figure out there is a huge pent-up market for conservative values. Hollywood scorns those conservative values and makes no effort to understand the people or the culture and yet expects those same people to plop their butts down in movie theaters and watch them trash them and their values. That just doesn't work. Look at the box office for any number of anti American movies that were made over the last eight years. But when Hollywood makes a straight forward action movie about an All-American hero, like Christian Bale's Batman they make tons of bucks. Which is more important to the Hollywood decision makers, making politically correct films or making money? The old time Hollywood studio chiefs were largely cynical jews and yet they made some of schmaltziest movies of all times celebrating Christians and conservative values. Why? Because it made them butt loads of money. So Hollywood is leaving a lot of money on the table. Eventually someone will figure it out.
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...that conservatives and republicans are labeled as such, and liberals and democrats are not. The implication being, one deserves a label because it is unusual or not the norm. For instance, 30 Rock is not billed as starring Tina Fey as left-winger Liz Lemon. Or John C. McGinley as crazy lib Dr. Cox on Scrubs. MEANWHILE, one of the new characters on Scrubs has been identified specifically as an "entitled, conservative." So, really my issue has to do with the political labeling going on that only labels one side.
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I was searching for the word "Christian" in Herc's post, and it seems to have escaped me. And yet I'm reading all these posts about how he bashed Christianity. I love how conservatives think they have the trademark rights to all things to Jesus.
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Are you on crack, angelcakes? Did you even see the film? Did you understand the ending speech? "Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because HE'S NOT OUR HERO, he's the silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight." There is no truth, justice and shiny, decidedly Christian American Way in the Batman mythos - certainly not in Nolan's. It's quite the opposite. In TDK, Batman deliberately compromises himself to save a city who now hates him and who blames him for the insanity and mayhem of their "white knight," Harvey Dent. TDK is hardly a "straight-forward action movie" as you claim. If anything, it's a fantastical study in shades of gray, where the point is made that Batman and his arch-nemesis, the Joker, are essentially cut from the same cloth. All one needs to teeter from one side to the other of the good/evil spectrum is, as the Joker says, "a little push." If all you saw was a punch-em-up and a big truck flip-over finale, you really, really missed the point.
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Your interpretation may be correct, but the way Batman is perceived may vary. I choose to see him as a force for good, a Bush-like character who is not afraid to do the dirty things that have to be done in order to achieve the greater good. But like I said, that is irrelevant to my real point which is, if there really is a large untapped conservative market, then the powers that be in Hollywood will not leave it alone indefinitely. Look at The Passion of the Christ, a movie that no Hollywood studio wanted any part of that turned about a half BILLION dollar profit. I don't care how big of an atheist, Obama lovin' libieral you are, you're not going to leave a half billion on the table if you can help it. So in the end, market forces will determine Hollywood's politics. That's all I'm saying.
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...is not in the Constitution.
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You make it sound as if christians, republicans, and white people are three distinctly different groups. Generally speaking, they're usually not mutually exclusive.
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Maybe if you didn't go around comparing every run-of-the-mill leftist to Lenin, we wouldn't return the favor and dump all over your head in return.
I'm hearing all this shit on this TB about how we need to understand "conservative values"...when the fuck in eight years of the Bush regime did you ever make the effort to understand leftist values?! Whiners and hypocrites.
Oh, and Herc didn't say anything bad about Xtians, so please shut up, all you hypersensitive blowhards. Matthew 6:5-7 -
"I choose to see him as a force for good, a Bush-like character who is not afraid to do the dirty things that have to be done in order to achieve the greater good."
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Thank you for calling me Jesus, but I am merely the ever humble johnnyangel. And as to former president W, he successfully defended the US against Al Qaeda. He thwarted Al Qaeda's objectives, and effectively defeated them, at least for the time being. His foreign policy, although tremendously opaque was extremely successful in reaching these objectives, which were to maintain the status quo in the Middle East and to deny Al Qaeda its stated objective of a large scale regime changing Muslim revolution across the Middle East. The price Bush paid for that is worldwide hatred and condemnation. Sounds like a real life Dark Knight to me.
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He's like 90.
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Nov 17, 2009 4:34:21 PM CST
Conservatives, I can tell you why liberals ridicule you
by industrykiller!
Because you like to base policy on the words of an invisible man in the sky. Also you are laughably gullible, dense, and lacking in all creative output. Examples, Sarah Palin (her clownish existence in general) and that Catholic anti evolution dickhead who, with TOTAL earnestness, quoted a positive review of his book by Stephen Colbert on his website. In case you haven't figured it out Colbert, while funny to all sides of the political spectrum, thinks you people are scum and makes millions making fun of you. And good luck getting conservative based television or film considering artists worth any creative salt strive to shatter the status quo your sheep heads hold so dear. So sit down, watch the entertainment we give you, and fucking like it you bitches.
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They generally don't have as much money as liberals, for one. They tend to be less educated than liberals, which means they usually make less, which means they have less to spend at the movies and on products advertised on TV. Also, liberals tend to be more accepting of a variety of plot lines and are willing to accept gray moral situations. Conservatives tend to have problems with the latter unless it's something like saving the day by shooting the hell out of people rather than arresting them. Liberals support that in movies, too, but far less.
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Yes, but he also allowed the biggest terrorist attack in US history, ignoring intel that could well have prevented it. That's all I'll say about Bush, whom I am so glad to have gone.
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Nov 17, 2009 7:38:11 PM CST
Industrykiller, there are more conservatives in this country
by coughlins laws
than liberals and we make fun of you behind your back. We don't need a movie star or director to validate our beliefs. Also, it always kills me how liberals get up in arms about what a "Republican" preacher says, but you still have no problem with Barack Hussein Obama sitting in a church for 20 years (1000 Sundays), listening to a so-called Reverend scream hate, racism, and anti-Americanism to the crowd. And you wonder why Obama doesn't like America and surrounds himself with those who hate America. Maybe it's because his preacher and mentor of 20 years was a racist hate-monger...
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Didn't Chuck Norris jokes get old years ago? So, great, they're making a show to cash in on that craze for sometime next year. Yahoo. Oh, and jokes about Christians? Groundbreaking.
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believe those things you just typed? Really? Are you really that arrogant and hate conservatives that much? Do you really have that much disdain for conservatives? Really? I feel sorry for you. I would not want to go through life with the disdain and hatred you feel towards fellow Americans. You somehow think you're better than people that voted differently than you and somehow think you're smarter than those that vote differently than you. You are sad...
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Nov 17, 2009 7:46:20 PM CST
That's the thing, VitaminZ. Liberal Hollywood has no balls...
by coughlins laws
Making fun of Christians has been done to death. It doesn't really sell. The biggest moneymakers every year are almost always family movies or big action movies. Movies or shows who's soul purpose is to humiliate Christians or conservatives don't really ever make money...
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in a manner in which you make complete fools of yourselves. Without an ounce of wit or creativity. An American Carol anyone? Check. Unclever Tea Party signs that make you all look like a bunch of illiterate mongoloids? Yessum. Or For instance the fact that you think Obama hates America, Liberals love hearing that inane baseless shit. Or that your justification for it is the meaningless words of some fucking preacher. I'll let you in on a secret, Obama probably doesn't give a shit about his spiritual path or religion (after all he went to the gym on his first Sundays in office rather than church, a healthier trade off if you ask me), and says that at all just to placate a few jackass religious independents. I wouldn't be surprised if 75% of his religious conviction is merely a political ploy, at least I hope to God (get it?) that that is the case. We also love the clearly racist intention of emphasizing his middle name, that's some tasty moral authority you're giving us there. I can see the response of "What??!! That IS his middle name isn't it? I mean Im just sayin'. In fact Yoooouuuu're the racist one for even thinking that! Cause I didn't think it, I just like to refer to people like I'm their fucking grandmother is all!" That kind of stupidity from an enemy is quite an ego boost, it's also fun to be completely justified in condescending a group of assholes so completely.
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America-haters and admitted Communists, he sat and listened to an America-hating preacher for 20 years, he launched his political campaign in the house of an America-hating terrorist and self-proclaimed Communist, he went around the world apologizing for America, he keeps saying how America isn't what it once was, etc, etc, etc. Is hate to strong a word for you? OK, he doesn't like
America...Plus, I love your defense about his listening to his preacher. He's just a liar who pretends to give a shit about religion and he wasn't listening while his racist, anti-American preacher screamed about hating America. Interesting defense...As far as signs at protest rallies, did you even pay attention to the protests from the Loony Left the last 8 years? They held up signs calling Bush Hitler, signs saying bush should be killed, signs showing Bush with his head sawed off, etc, etc, etc. It's not even close the amount of crazies that protested Bush than now protest Obama's bankrupting our country...As far as his middle name, HE was the one that was sworn in with his middle name. HE is the one that has teachers around the country forcing children to sing songs of praise about him using his middle name. Please explain to me how it's racist for me to say his middle name but now for teachers forcing children to sing his middle name...You know, people are sick and tired of the calls of racism for everyone that disagrees with Obama's radical Leftist policies. Are the 63 million that voted against Obama ALL racist? Are the vast majority of Americans against Obamacare ALL racist? Are the now majority of Independents that have fled the Democrat Party because of Obama's irresponsible and reckless agenda ALL racist? Are the vast majority of Americans who are against Obama bringing the 9/11 mastermind to NYCity and giving him American lawyers ALL racist? Really? We're all racist? We only disagree with him because his father was black? Really? You honestly believe that? No wonder independents are fleeing the Democrat Party. Good luck in 2010, loser... -
Nov 17, 2009 8:13:00 PM CST
Industrykiller, is it racist to point out that the liar Obama
by coughlins laws
has his website filled with lies about Stimulus jobs created in Congressional districts that don't exist? Is it racist to point out that Obama is going to let an admitted terrorist have lawyers in NYCity and that these lawyers might leak information to al-Qaeda (which happened at the last terrorist trial for the Blind Sheik)?Please let me know how I can criticize this President without being racist. The majority of Independents and Republicans that don't like this guy's policies don't want you to think we're all racist. We wouldn't be able to sleep at night...
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Nov 17, 2009 8:20:29 PM CST
We, Sephardi, Ashkenazi and Mizrahi Jews all agree
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Ratner sucks! But can not lump him in with a murderin camel fucking bastard like the Shake!
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The radical lefties can not stand him because they think he is betraying them. If ya are gonna hate, at least tell the troot!
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We might lose a seat or two in 2010, but overall the party will be fine and we'll have already passed health care legislation and an energy bill. He'll also win handily again in 2012 with the clowns you have lined up and the ceaseless infighting. If you don't like the charges of racism, stop being a fuckin racist. You're telling me that if he had sworn in without his middle name you wouldn't be using it? Bullshit. You know exactly why you people use it, because the Muslim name is a battle cry for your kind. I don't fuckin see you spelling out George Walker Bush.Is it the ONLY reason you don't like him? Nope, but it certainly is one of 'em. So until then I'm calling you a racist...racist.And Obama bankrupted our country? Apparently you weren't around for the tail end of the Bush presidency when he sent us spiraling headfirst into the abyss. What was that...oh...a year ago? You think 10% unemployment is bad now? What exactly do you think would have happened without the bailouts? You don't get to build corporations into an oligarchic empire (thanks for that too Republican swine)and then abandon them when they collapse taking us with them. Hopefully now we can establish some regulatory barriers that will keep you people from doing this to us again in the future. That would be the silver lining here. And the reason unemployment is at 10% is because you fucking bastards didn't let us go far enough with the bailouts or spend it where it was actually necessary. Ask China, who spent much more than we did exclusively on infrastructure, state projects and the like and almost completely avoided this mess (are you even nuanced enough to acknowledge when China does something better than us? eh I'll give it a try) or ask Pulitzer Prize winning economist Paul Krugman, who had been banging that drum before and has now been proven correct. As for your anti American charge. I can barely dignify that with a response from someone whose idea of America is clearly culled largely from grade school jingoism and John Wayne movies. I totally agree we owe the world an apology for our dispicable behavior post WWII> And since when did Republicans become such pussies about being frightened? If you really think terrorists are going to descend en masse to New York City to try and send a message for these guys, well, there that wonderful absurd conservative paranoia us Liberals love to make fun of again. But I dont think your worried about shit, its yet another fear mongering political opportunity, what yous cum bags are brilliant at. If you can't see how badly we need moral authority after wrongly imprisoning people for 8 years and torturing the shit out of them then you naivete is outright childish. And there isn't any fucking threat to New York City, you act we're housing the fucking Joker or something, it's unbecoming of you guys to be such fucking pansies.
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Wow. Great rebuttal. And great point about the republicans being pussies and whingeing about terror trials in NYC when the libs want them. Turning the tables indeed on the 'macho' posturing. Then again, their leaders are all draft dodging arm chair warriors.
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Your whole argument is based on nothing more than hypothetical assumptions. He's a terroist accused of plotting against AMERICA getting a trial in AMERICA. I know you guys would love nothing more than to disregard the laws when they don't suit your party, but that ain't how it works. If so we'd be no better than Iran. If America wants to present itself a moral leader in the world, we need to walk the walk and stand by the laws that govern this nation.
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What the fuck are you talking about? It was one teacher who then retired. Where do you get this insane paranoid shit about Obama forcing teachers to do anything? You're a fucking lunatic, tin foil hate wearing, half truth telling jackass. Substantiate that claim that Obama made any teacher do anything or admit you're wrong. Seriously I want to know where you got this in your head you maniac. My God these fucking people are scum. Can you argue ANYTHING on its merits using examples? Or is it all just Fox News sound bytes? Pathetic.
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Nov 17, 2009 9:11:15 PM CST
I don't like an organization to be in charge of my beliefs.
by orionsangels
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I'm just sayin'...
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Don't bother with that fuckhead, he's in the goddamn stratosphere. Trying to argue sense to that noodle-brain is an impossible task; many have tried, all have failed.
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Actually, conservatives are more educated, actually work for a living, and give more to charity than liberals (who are the definition of entitled)--and this is by the left's own studies.
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Nov 17, 2009 10:31:41 PM CST
I didn't say teachers were forced to make kids sing...
by coughlins laws
But they did anyway. Are you telling me you haven't seen the videos of grade school kids singing praises to Obama, being brainwashed?"Barack Hussein Obama, Mmmmmm, Mmmmmmm, Mmmmmm! Barak Hussein Obama, Mmmmmmm, Mmmmmmmmm, Mmmmmmmm!"There's about half a dozen videos on youtube of kids from different schools singing praises to Obama. If the school my kids went to were forcing kids to sing to Obama, I'd sue...
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As an independent and an agnostic, even I have to admit there is a huge bias and double-standard in the media and Hollywood which does nothing but prevent individual thought or rational discourse. Just as many liberals and atheists need to rein in their radicals as well.
And by the way; Christian fundamentalists typically don't kill you for converting to another religion. See: Islam.
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Please stop defending Bush. He was never a conservative. He was, by definition, a globalist and socialist by policy (and spending). If you are honest with yourselves, then you'll admit that he was very similar in policy to Clinton (the Patriot Act was the very bill Clinton tried to push through years prior (and unconstitutional, I might add). The only difference was the left's RESPONSE to those policies.
So, you should understand why liberals get pissed when you point to a guy who aggressively expanded government and took the plays out of their own book and, suddenly, it was "ok".
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you should be tried on american soil
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Nov 17, 2009 10:39:33 PM CST
The highest unemployment was under Bush before Obama's
by coughlins laws
election was 6%. After Obama takes office, it soars to 8%. Obama promised that unemployment would NOT go over 8% if they passed the so-called stimulus. Well, guess what, unemployment is now over 10% and climbing. The stimulus was a complete failure in every way imaginable. Independents have fled the Democrat Party based soley on Obama's policies. Obama has been a failure in every way measurable. Nothing he has tried to do has been a success. His Health Care Bill is a disaster and if they pass it, there will be a HUGE revolt. The American people DO NOT WANT Obama to take over 1/6th of the US economy. Cap and Tax is ALSO a disaster and helps him break one of his biggest promises. He promised that NO ONE making under $250,000 a year would have their taxes increased. Well, with this bill, everyone in America will have their energy bills go up an average of $3,000 a year...As far as Obamacare, it will cost more money, add $2 TRILLION to our National Debt (at least), and will result in the rationing of care (i.e.- death panels for seniors...)You know what though, I admire you for staying on this sinking ship for as long as possible. Obama is a joke. Most Americans are realizing he has no idea what he's doing...
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If you are not a citizen, you are not entitled to constitutional rights. What happened in 9/11 was an act of war and they should be tried by military tribunal. Though I feel that terrorists should be held on a military base in the United States. No way in hell should they be tried in New York where most evidence will be inadmissible due to intelligence operatives being put at risk if it is divulged (there are only so many sources of information; when you release information, the people embedded are often killed as a result. Not hard to figure out, people). Furthermore, Mohammed now will get a platform and America will be on trial rather than a murderer. There are no benefits here. I've tried to rationalize their decision and it just doesn't compute. It really is the wrong decision.
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to slaughtering 3,000 Americans? He should be put to death. He shouldn't get treated like an American citizen. He is an animal who wants to kill
Americans and we're giving him lawyers. You should be outraged that Obama is making taxpayer pay for his trial. This is sickening. BTW, the VAST MAJORITY of Americans agree with me. You're the ones that are in the extreme minority who think that taxpayers should pay to defend a monster who slaughters thousands of Americans and planned to slaughter thousands more. When Bill Clinton gave the Blind Sheik a lawyer in 1993 after he tried to blow up the WTC, that traitor lawyer gave US secrets to al-Qaeda. I'm glad you're comfortable risking giving classified secrets to terrorists again... -
BUT, wasn't Bush (along with Obama and McCain) in favor of the bailout?
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For the love of life, could someone say something relevant and intelligent? The only thing close is johnnyangel's point about the market and Hollywood and his analysis of The Dark Knight. (Although, I disagree because modern liberals have thought they can control the market since the early 20th century.)
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Nov 17, 2009 10:48:34 PM CST
Critical Bliss you in fact DID say that, here's the quote
by industrykiller!
"HE is the one that has teachers around the country forcing children to sing songs of praise about him" The argument we had was about Obamas middle name and you listed ways in which HE has used the name before. The implication there is CLEARLY that he himself, through some delusional subterfuge to mind control all children, made these teachers teach the kids that song emphasizing his middle name. You absolutely meant to implicate him in that statement. You even emphasized the "HE". Moreover it's not fucking "teachers around the country" that's a bald faced lie, it was ONE teacher in ONE school and that teacher is now retired and Obama had nothing to do with what that teacher did. Lying fucker.And I guess now all you have to say for yourself on your obviously racist use of his middle name is that he wanted to be sworn in with his full name? Yeah, he really throws it around a lot.
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That approach has never worked (even in the 1800's and before).
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When did I say that? If I did, I don't remember--or was trying to get a reaction.... lol.
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I don't think children should be singing about any current political figure. It's bad news. That's Nazi Germany stuff, though I doubt Obama "had" people do that. I just think a self-serving "teacher" (I use the term loosely since they are more in favor of indoctrination than individual thought) decided to have children sing his "praises".
And I don't think it is right and there is no place for it, whether it's Ronald Reagan, Obama, Bush or Hugo Chavez... -
Sorry, folks. This is a talkback, not a political forum.
By the way, I think the show concept is great. I just hope it isn't so dogmatic that the humor is siphoned out.... -
Just rattling off sound bytes about death panels and statistics lacking context. Considering the unemployment problem was created by Bush, its as if this fuck thinks that magically Obama somehow created 8 years of deregulatory corporate fellating laws because he took office right in the middle of the shit. He then rattles on endlessly about total nonsense like the Democratic party is in the last vestiges of life, clinging to nothing before the Republican steamroller. My judge of character tells me this clown doesnt actually believe this shit. Conservatives are professional rhetoric spouters. Cheerleaders of their own sick brains. His horseshit just adds to the din. guess what, the Health Care Bill just might pass (thank God since Im being fucked daily by our current system) and there wont be any revolt, you conservatives will whine and piss and moan until a new topic comes up and you'll move on to lose on that subject to. That's your place, to slow progress, never stop it.
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Nov 17, 2009 11:05:56 PM CST
Criticalbliss its part of the rebuilding of our moral authority.
by industrykiller!
For 8 years now we have wrongly imprisoned and tortured whoever we damn well please, and I think you know the world has been watching. Bush's behavior has cut the legs right out from under us in terms of negotiating the foreign landscape. No one wants to help the hypocrite. Trying Mohammed in a civil court under the bright lights of American justice will send a message we're prepapred to do things the right way, even under difficult circumstances. It's a small but important part of rebuilding the horribly damaged American brand. As far as danger? There isn't any. These guys have been imprisoned by America for years now and nothing has come of it yet. The terrorists havent been sitting around going "We make our move when they transfer to American soil." And his ranting arent going to embolden anyone, hell, I doubt there will be anyr antings at all. He'll be tried like any other person and he'll get convicted, the right way, for everyone to see. The ONLY difference will be the media circus. If we killed him by military tribunal he has a MUCH better chance of being fully martyred, convicted by what as far as the world is concerned is a shadow military willing to do whatever it takes to silence its enemies. Holder chose right.
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Nov 17, 2009 11:07:32 PM CST
Sorr Critical I eant to say Coughlins in the "Kids" post
by industrykiller!
My bad, you're obviously a smart guya nd I didnt mean to lump you in with this lunatic. BTW I agree that no kids should be singing songs about current Presidents, thats creepy. But like I said it was one teacher acting alone without approval by the school.
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I'm gonna go on some right wing forum and start a debate about Chris Elliot.
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That is one of the greatest pilots that never went to series. The only better one is probably Heat Vision and Jack. Really wish we could have seen more of both of these.
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SNL and give her some shitty PA job. I mean fuck, Elliot's as big as a house now, she can be his Big Mac getter.
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Still makes me laugh. Where's the HD DVD of that?
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almost a dozen different schools where teachers had their kids singing praises about Barack Hussein Obama, Mmmmmmmmmm, Mmmmmmmm, Mmmmmmmmmmm!!!I'm sorry you aren't up to speed on what's going on in this country. But I haven't said anything that's not true...And for those of you that say that somehow Barack's middle name is racist, uhh, if he thought that, why did he get sworn in with it? I really am not following why some people are allowed to say his name and others aren't? What are you embarrassed about? Be proud of his Muslim name...
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of War that he already admitted to and wanted as of last year to be executed for? KSM ADMITTED he slaughtered 3,000 Americans and was planning on slaughtering more. Now you want to give him a lawyer and have taxpayers pay for his defense? Well, only 30% of Americans agree with you on this one...
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I think a Chris Elliot debate could be interesting. He's hard to pin down, though I love the guy. Cabin Boy holds a place in my heart--and I couldn't really explain why...
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Considering the country is roughly split between liberals and conservatives, why would any show choose to alienate one or the other? The best scripted shows stay ambiguous about their politics, are equal opportunity offenders, or avoid politics altogether.
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An overwhelming amount of the tv or movie stars that use their shows or movies or celebrity status as a soapbox for their political views are stereotypically left-leaning. How about a show about a tv show where the two main stars are BOTH outspoken about their politics but are polar opposites politically, and thus constantly trying to steer the show in the direction of their politics?
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UH OH that's a red fucking flag right there. That means the probabillity of antifunny being in the script is large.
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as long as they aren't live on saturday night.
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Apparently not. Bye...
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Coughlin, do you lie because you're paid to, or because you're a lazy reader, stupid, or all three?
"The highest unemployment was under Bush before Obama's election was 6%. After Obama takes office, it soars to 8%. Obama promised that unemployment would NOT go over 8% if they passed the so-called stimulus."
Please post a Tinyurl link to any such Obama promise regarding his stimulus package...I can easily find an article here on how a pair of his underlings PREDICTED (not PROMISED) that the stimulus would keep unemployment under 8%: http://tinyurl.com/nx4nh6
Such calculations are necessary for policy planning, but they're not an oracular vision by any means. NO President would ever make such a claim in public...it would blow up in his face if he were off by even a tenth of one percent.
So, as with most of the bullshit you spew, you're stretching the facts until they take on an objectionable form, then presenting that exaggeration as "fact", THEN continuing to extrapolate based on that sandy foundation.
Another example is how you try to fix the facts to put a roof on Bush's unemployment rate..."The highest unemployment was under Bush before Obama's election was 6%". So, for the two month expanse of Nov-Dec 2008, Bush WASN'T running the country as unemployment steadily climbed from 6.6% in October (it hadn't been under 6.0% since July...more bullshit) to 6.8% and 7.2%?
The real data shows that (like the economy in general) the problem CLEARLY started in Bush's last year: http://tinyurl.com/6rbva
Notice how, on the BLS's graph, the unemployment ramp begins in the first quarter of 2008...it doesn't waver until the middle of 2009, as the Dow and US GDP finally bounce back. If that doesn't tell you who blew it (and who's wrestling around trying to fix it), you're an idiot. -
Reasons:
Chris Elliot has never been particularly funny in longer than 5 minute doses. "Get a Life"-- his failure on Fox about a 30 yr-old paperboy comes to mind...
Second: Liberal Hollywood has no idea how to make conservative characters funny without also making them idiotic or offensive. See "Buffalo Bill"
Kelsy Grammer's "Frasier" may be the only time we get even close to an intelligently played conservative and funny character.That is all.
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Nov 18, 2009 7:35:58 AM CST
JUST PUT KHALID SHEIKH MOHAMMED IN A ROOM WITH ZOOEY DESCHANEL
by bringingsexyback
And let him find out what American justice really is.
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Frasier was not a Conservative character or show. To my and Zooey's recollection it never tackled a political subject. And in fact, most of the other actors on the show were Liberal.
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Chuck Norris is doing Jesus no favors.
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Read my post.I said that they came close to having an intelligently played conservative character. It kind of makes my point that even "frasier" tried to stay away from the liberal vs. conservative sitcom deathtrap.
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I thought Bulldog was the douchebag.
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Explain to me what a President can do policywise during an election year? Basically Bush was a lame duck ever since the 2006 elections and a President definitely can't get anything done during an election year when the other party controls the Congress and the 2 Presidential candidates are taking up all the ink...
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that was the joke- dumbass. We were laughing at his effete conservancy.
Jack Donaughey on 30 rock- now THERE's a tory I can get behind, because he's evil and he means it. -
Wow, you guys sure are desperate.
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again not getting or even understanding america
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please, give me the parents down the block, the ones with the Six Feet Under dvds.
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Please, keep posting your hysterical bullshit. You're doing more to push the Republican party into irrelevancy than any "liberal" could ever dream of doing.
Oh, and it's DEMOCRATIC party, not Democrat party you fucking morons. If you can't even get that much right, then you just need to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
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