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Suck On This: LITTLE FOCKERS To Reunite Robert De Niro And Harvey Keitel!

Beaks here...

It started like this:
It's come to this:
Harvey Keitel has joined the cast of Universal and Tribeca Prods.' "Meet the Fockers" sequel.
What's the use of wond'rin? Between these two appearances, there was the legendary duel between Travis Bickel and Sport in TAXI DRIVER, some scenes in Ulu Grosbard's FALLING IN LOVE (which I barely remember), good stuff in James Mangold's COP LAND, and, evidently, something in Luc Besson's ARTHUR AND THE MINIMOYS (of which I watched about twenty minutes before running out of things to throw at the TV). LITTLE FOCKERS will be directed by Paul Weitz. Everyone (save for Dustin Hoffman and Barbra Streisand) is set to return. For more on this utterly necessary sequel, here's The Hollywood Reporter's story.

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  • Nov. 11, 2009, 11:56 p.m. CST

    This nudges it closer to me seeing it.

    by ackack

    Is Jett writing this?

  • Nov. 11, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST

    No Pacino?

    by Latauro

    I seriously thought that Pacino would be the next logical step after De Niro and Hoffman, but Keitel makes sense. I hope he and De Niro have an argument about mooks.

  • Nov. 11, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Couldn't they reunite...

    by Hamish

    ...for something good? These movies are devil spawn.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    What the fuck has happened to the Weitzes?

    by Burgundy82

    Not that they were ever auteurs, but Jesus. They'll do anything these days.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST


    by mrbeaks

    THE GOLDEN COMPASS, CIRQUE DU FREAK and AMERICAN DREAMZ happened. I really liked IN GOOD COMPANY, but it's time to wear them heels out.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:10 a.m. CST

    How about Jodie Foster?

    by MCVamp

    Jodie doesn't do it often, but she's not bad at comedy...oh wait, this is a Fockers movie.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    suck on this

    by georgecauldron


  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Rachel McAdams as BlackCat in Spiderman 4

    by beetlegeuse

    I don't if it's true or not, probably not, nevertheless, the idea makes me and my pants happy

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    DeNiro to Focker baby:

    by Rocco Curioso

    "You cryin' at me? You cryin' at me? Well... you must be cryin' at me, 'cause I'm the only adult here".<P>WTF is Harvey Keitel doing in this? He's not much of an actor to begin with, and he definitely has zero knack for comedy.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    i saw them!!

    by nolan bautista

    they're here in Alhambra,California shooting a scene down the street from my house..Owen Wilson was also present..i knew something big was up when theres giant trailers on the street(along w/ the rest of the equipment) and security standing at the end of each block..

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST


    by Bass Ackwards

    My thoughts exactly. I thought with About a Boy they developed as filmmakers with a unique voice and vision. Turns out that film was tha anomoly for a couple of guys who have basically decided to be guns for hire.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    I want Fidel Castro in this too

    by YackBacker

    And maybe OJ Simpson.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Little Fockers...

    by Anything But Tangerines

    Tee hee! Read it out loud and it sounds like you're saying the F word! Really! Shhh It's a secret, though!

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 1:05 a.m. CST


    by Exile236

    You aren't the only one that really liked that movie, one of the only really good Scarlett performances IMO.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 1:37 a.m. CST

    I don't care if Hendrix is coming back to write the soundtrackri

    by IndustryKiller!

    You couldn't force me by shotgun into this cash grab garbage.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 2:05 a.m. CST


    by StarchildAD

    THIS FILM IS THE GAME CHANGER. MARK MY WORDS. Its gonna be the immaculate conception on screen.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 2:58 a.m. CST

    :smiles: (Points Finger in Your Direction) "You........"

    by U_Banned_Me_Down_The_Stairs

    You got a gift... Doesnt he have a gift.. You....

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Will Keitel be flashing his cock and ball in this one as well

    by U_Banned_Me_Down_The_Stairs

    Someone had to say it. Deniro doesn't cry, and Harvey likes to to take little Harvey out fishing just before dusk.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:03 a.m. CST

    These flicks are freakin career DEATH...

    by the_patriot

    Just look at the flix these people have made since being in these damned movies. DeNiro - Stardust? Hide and Seek? Hoffman - Last Chance Harvey and Mr Magorium? Blythe Danner - Last Kiss and Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2? Streisand - NOTHING AT ALL. Stiller winds up being the winner with Night at the Museum and Tropic Thunder? This makes me loathe Ben Stiller even more. Sweet feathery Zeus, someone stop this shiat.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:36 a.m. CST


    by billyhitchcock


  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:37 a.m. CST

    and beaks/AICN

    by billyhitchcock

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST

    and beaks/AICN

    by billyhitchcock

    this is NOT cool news. you know that no-one who reads this site gives a flying fuck about this movie so why bother? is it just to get us in a sweaty froth about it? maybe cause the next big 'net storm? boring.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:42 a.m. CST


    by billyhitchcock

    ...for the double post. my finger was hovering over the enter key a bit too feverishly. i'll get my 'mom' to come down to the basement and clean up the mess ;-)

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:44 a.m. CST

    and that terminator advert...

    by billyhitchcock

    ...burning through my screen every 5 seconds is doing my swede!

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Who cares?

    by Drsambeckett1984

    Juvenile rubbish, that has somehow spawned a movie trilogy, what a waste of hundreds of millions of dollars!

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 4:28 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Hey, I saw THE GOLDEN COMPASS for the first time this week!<p> I've forgotten it already though. What was it about?

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 4:47 a.m. CST

    One more time


    They did a Saturday Night Live together back in the early 00's. I guess Booby D doesn't like to hang out with Harv' any more, as it reminds him of the depths to which his own career has sunk, whilst Big H has stayed edgy (more or less). That is all.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 5:02 a.m. CST

    If the plays the Taxi Driver pimp wanting revenge...

    by ricarleite2

    ... then this will be the best movie ever. Otherwise, Keitel should just retire. Put Rip Torn there instead, he REALLY has got the need to eat.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 5:06 a.m. CST

    the plays = he plays

    by ricarleite2


  • Nov. 12, 2009, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Take the money and run...

    by marineboy

    This will keep their pension funds topped up - but forget these 2 ever making anything worthwhile again...

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 6:14 a.m. CST

    They used to be acting legends of cinema...

    by I AM ROCKO

    ...and now they are reduced to this...lose the cred, take the cash. I will miss Meet the Fockers at the flicks and stay at home and watch Taxi Driver instead.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 6:40 a.m. CST

    How can this movie bypass Little Nicky...

    by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl to Harvey Keitel hi-larity? I'm not even sure that's possible.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 6:59 a.m. CST

    You know,,,

    by ToshiroShimura

    De Niro gets a really bad wrap for a) playing the same role over and over and b) making bad movies in the process but really, can you blame him? It's his job and really, he's just coasting to retirement now.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 6:59 a.m. CST

    I mean

    by ToshiroShimura

    The guy played fucking Vito Corleone! He can do whatever the fuck he wants

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 7:17 a.m. CST

    keitel cant be in a comedy?????

    by Six Demon Bag

    you guys obviously havent seen SISTER ACT!!!

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST

    I'll put it on my NetFlix queue when it comes out

    by ATARI

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 7:38 a.m. CST


    by Darkman

    CIRQUE DU FREAK flops (undeservedly, at that) and as punishment, Paul must direct LITTLE FOCKERS. It's not fair.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Comedy for morons

    by jimmay

    Fockers. . .that name kind of sounds like Fuckers!! Why, that's hilarious! In fact you could make a whole movie out of jokes about how their name sounds like Fuckers!! What a swell idea! <p> Fuck Deniro. These movies have instilled in me a well of abject hatred for him that will never run dry. Ice Cube has more credibility.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Needs more FRANKS AND BEANS!!!

    by Squashua


  • Nov. 12, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    My in-laws will be thrilled. I am not.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Cuz that's the only way to top the grossness of 30-40 year old circumcised flesh going into your dinner isn't it? And this is coming from me, a person who actually liked the previous two. Sucks Dustin's gone, I don't care bout streissand they should kill her in between flicks and have Dustin's new-agey lawyer getting back into the dating scene, would be funny having him adjusting to 21st century women.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Unnecessary sequel?

    by RogueScribner

    MEET THE PARENTS: $330 million worldwide MEET THE FOCKERS: $517 million worldwide In Hollywood, those numbers mean a sequel is very necessary! I personally found the first movie okay and the second movie largely unfunny, so I won't be bothering with the third.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    keitel and comedy

    by batteredchappedpussy

    he was very hilarious in the last scene in get shorty "fuck you fuck ball!" that aisde, this will be really dumb. and make a gazillion dollars.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    I blame Ben Stiller

    by gravybits

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    They were hilarious. These movies are harmless, innocent fun. Looking forward to the 3rd.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST


    by iwasredempted

    it's about a compass that is...wait for it....GOLDEN, brothuh..

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    These Focker movies

    by IAmLegolas

    have ran 3 too many.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    You can blame Stiller, DeNiro, etc. for picking up a paycheck

    by skimn

    Blame the American moviegoing public for making them hits. Okay, the first was okay, the second....why did that make a kajillion dollars. Was nothing else out at that time?

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Patriot....Stardust was a brilliant fantasy film.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    So I take issue on that, although DeNiro in it was hardly playing at his best. Everything else you say though, true enough. DeNiro has only made one great comedy, Midnight Run - every other time he plays funny, it`s a terrible film. To think he`s making another Focker flick is painful. To hear Keitel has lowered himself to this level also, well, it has to be a sign of the apocolypse.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    'Focked from behind', the movie!

    by Baron Karza


  • Nov. 12, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    What the hell happened to Dinero?

    by Dirk Shocker

    I mean De niro!

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Stiller/Deniro: Focking America right in the wallet

    by jimmay

    And America loves it. Sadly, when it comes to comedy, otherwise intelligent people will rush to bottom feeding swill like this in droves. Case in point: Paul Blart: Mall Cop.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    So, the Focker movies weren't the greatest, they were

    by Coughlins Laws

    funny, though. Why not make some money? Why shouldn't DeNiro start to make some serious money? He's gotten more acclaim than most any actor of his generation, save Pacino or Nicholson, but he makes no where near as much as some of his contemporaries. Can you blame him for taking movies that will pay him the big bucks he didn't get for Mean Streets or Raging Bull? Would you want to live in a world where you played Vito Corleone, Jimmy Conway, and Sam Rothstein, but make less money per film than Adam Sandler or Matt DAmon?

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Indeed, what's wrong with selling out?

    by jimmay

    Nothing wrong with making complete and utter crap, as long as the pay's good, right; gotta eat, as they say. Or you could, as an actor, involve yourself in projects that have some artistic merit, but who wants to do that? It's all swimming pools and gold-plated shark-tank bars in Hollywood.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST


    by Mennen

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    No, you can do both. You can make good movies and

    by Coughlins Laws

    you can make movies that will pay you good money. Like all the idiots going after John Turturro saying he shouldn't have been in The Transformers movies. Well, how much money do you think he made from Miller's Crossing and Barton Fink? Don't you think it's OK for one of the best character actors out there to make money? So, are you saying that you have to be starving in order to be an "artist"? And who says that doing a comedy is "selling out"? Or is it only selling out if you don't like it? Did Bill Murray "sell out" when he did Ghostbusters 2? Or was he selling out when he did The Man Who Knew Too Little? I just don't understand what you consider "selling out". Are you saying to you that The Focker movies have no artistic value, therefore to be involved with them is "selling out"? Was everyone involved with Transformers "selling out"? Is anyone in a movie making over $100 million a "sell out"? Was The Dark Knight a "sell out"? If it wasn't, how come The FAntastic Four was? Please give me your criteria...

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Arthur and the Minimoys was a good


  • Nov. 12, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    The Bridge of San Luis Rey 2004

    by evolvingsensblty

    De Niro and Keitel both appear in this film too, apparently...

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Concrete criteria to define the "goodness" of a movie

    by jimmay

    Simply doesn't exist. Therefore, I have a hard time defining the Fockers movies as having no artistic value relying on anything other than my own aesthetic opinions. I'll freely admit it. However if you can't see the difference between the Fockers movies and say, the comedies of the Coen Brothers, for example, then we're simply operating on different planes. <p> It's a poor analogy to compare Fockers to Dark Knight or Transformers, different genres, different levels of success, and, at least in terms of public and critical reception for Dark Knight, perceived quality. I guess that's as close as I'm going to get: Very, very few people will say either of the Fockers films were good movies, they'll simply say they were funny. In Dark Knight's case, very few people will call it anything other than a good movie.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Obviously I don't think that The Fockers movies are

    by Coughlins Laws

    on the same level as Coens Brothers Comedies. However, I think the fisrt one was better than most comedies that came out at the time and I just don't get the point in telling this person or that person that they're "selling out". Is that a comment on the actor that they're better than the movies they're in? In that case, clearly Nicolas Cage has been "selling out" ever since Leaving Las Vegas. But why do people have to denigrate De Niro's work? So, the Focker movies aren't everyone's cup of tea. However, they DID make a lot of money. That shouldn't make someone's body of work seem any less. Maybe De Niro got tired of playing mobsters? Maybe his sense of humor is more laid back than yours and he thinks the movies he's doing are hilarious? My point on bringing up the Dark Knight is I'm trying to get from you what exactly you consider "selling out". Is it a movie designed solely to make money? Or is it comedies that are broad? I'm just trying to get an answer from you. Who decides?

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Clearly in the context of this debate, I decide.

    by jimmay

    And you do, too. The fact that we've reached different decisions is what makes it a debate. <p>I make my decision based on my perception of quality, which I've already admitted has no concrete scientific basis. Frankly, I was tired of Deniro playing mobsters, but that doesn't mean I'd like to see him in dreck either. Fockers isn't the only example of him being in crap, either. There's also the Analyze this movies, Hide and Seek and Rocky and Bullwinkle. Frankly I haven't liked him in anything since Jackie Brown. <p>And yes, Cage sold out long ago, a notion that's alluded to in the talkbacks here every time a story runs connected to him.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Yet the trailer of the feel good family thingy

    by skimn

    with Robert DeNiro "lite" looks good. DVD rental good, but still good. C'mon Sam Rockwell plays his son, so it can't be bad...

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Well, let's put it this way. I will concede that Nicolas

    by Coughlins Laws

    Cage has definitely sold out. He had to have known that Gone in 60 Seconds, the Whicker Man, that Flaming Skull movie, etc, etc, etc, were all bad. The only movie he's made in 10 years that's even watchable is Matchstick Men. However, I don't think all of De Niro's movies have been bad. Meet the Parents and Analyze This were both somewhat fresh when they first came out. He was finally in successful comedies and he probably wanted to do more. As far as Rocky & Bullwinkle, I think you can give people a pass for doing a kid's movie. Hide and Seek, well, how the hell can you tell what all these so called horror movies are going to do? Was that any worse than The Grudge or Saw 5? I don't hold The Number 23 against Jim Carrey and don't hold Hide and Seek against De Niro (where he as a supporting character, not the lead). I just went over to imdb to remind myself of what he's done since Jackie Brown. He has made some stinkers (Showtime, 15 Minutes, Hide and Seek), but I think most of his movies were at least a good try (The Score, City By The Sea, The Good Shepard). So, although I don't like the term "sell out" because it usually just makes me think the user is some kind of snob, I don't like it when people use it to describe DeNiro. I don't think that he necessarily knows that some of these movies would be bad. Hey, he probably thought working with Eddie Murphey would be great and people had been waiting for him to work with Pacino again since Heat. I guess I'm too easy on most people but I always try to appreciate the effort that goes into movies and try not to let one or two bad scenes ruin a movie for me (thus me liking Attack of the Clones more than most people because I don't let the groan enducing love scenes take away from the last 45 minutes of the movie, which I liked...)

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Incidentally, I feel the same way about Pacino

    by jimmay

    He's been in some real piles lately, as has Walken. Although, at the rate movies are going now, you're hard pressed to find any actor that hasn't been in some, least to say, projects of questionable artistic merit within the past few years.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Needs Christopher Walken as Uncle Focker

    by smddoc

    This one needs christopher Walken as batshit uncle Focker !

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    OK, fine, I'll play your game. Here's my Top 10 Sell-Out Actors

    by Coughlins Laws

    1. Nicolas Cage<p>2. Marlon Brando<p>3. Al Pacino<p>4. Any movie Michael Caine did during the 80's<p>5. John Travolta<p>6. Nicole Kidman<p>7. Dustin Hoffman<p>8. Ben Kingsley<p>9. Kevin Spacey<p>10. Any actor in Ocean's Twelve or Thirteen

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Christopher Walken is in his own category, though...

    by Coughlins Laws

    There's no other actor like him and you can use him as a heavy or you can use him as just some nutjob. I think he adds to every movie he's in, though...

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    It took Righteous Kill to reunite DeNiro and Pacino...

    by bbbbeeeennnn

    So this doesn't come as too much of a surprise.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    MTP was awesome...

    by HarryCalder

    I only saw MTF for what I hoped would be generous helpings of Teri Polo's museum-worthy ass. I was most disappointed... can't imagine things will be better in this one... *sigh*

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Coughlins Laws

    by skimn

    Your Ocean's movies inclusion. Did Clooney "sell out" when he made Syriana, Solaris, Good Night Good Luck, Michael Clayton, even the current Goats and the upcoming Up In The Air, all non-standard, "tough sell" movies. He admits himself he makes one for the studio (Oceans) and one for himself. And lately that ratio has seemed to tilt towards the usual.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    I mean unusual

    by skimn


  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Keitel and Deniro...

    by ricanhavoc

    Didn't they also share the screen in Copland??? A fantastic 90s sleeper.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    There better be a scene with Keitel jerking off....

    by Chakraborty

    .....while saying, "Show me your ass."

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST


    by ToshiroShimura

    You can thank punk rock for all this "sell-out" nonsense. It hasn't just migrated genre's, it's infested other artistic mediums too. Why can't one make money, which still keeping their integrity? Capone's interview with Dreyfuss was great in the fact that Dreyfuss didn't hold back when he said he sometimes makes movies for the money. Why the fuck not!? It's a job. Why else do we work? So we can live in a shack, starving with 5 kids, and a whole lot of integrity? Fuck that. De Niro and Keitel are legends, and if nothing else, they can do whatever they want. Sure, they aren't making Mean Streets or Taxi Drivers anymore, but the fact is that they made those movies.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    I always figured the same...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    These guys really have nothing much else to prove in the field of acting. They are entitled to earn paychecks.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Your Internet Chat Association, (ICA)

    by Internet_Chat_Helper

    Did you know that your Internet Chat Association, (ICA) has some great programs running, one is the Internet Chat Forum, we hope you'll choose to participate, won't you?

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Watching Meet the Fockers was humiliating

    by Nabster

    They need scene in this movie of De Niro and Keitel hitting weights like in Righteous Kill.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    "Buddy, you don't look hip."

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    They need to work that line in somewhere.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    More Work Than the Moon Landing Went Into This!

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    Oh, yes. I am all for declaring LITTLE FOCKERS a game-changing film that will revolutionize cinema as a giant "FUCK YOU!" to both James Cameron's GAYLIENS aka NA'AVI IN THE WATER aka James Cameron's LAZER CATS.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST


    by jimmay

    No one aggrieves actors making money (not even me), but they also don't have to take every braindead bottom of the barrel hack script they come across. At least Deniro doesn't. He can A/wait for a better script or B/make due with the millions he's already made and stay home to watch those good movies he used to make. Instead he chooses C/make crap.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    jack black...

    by DrVenkmansLoveChild

    as cousin FRANK FOCKER!!! he farts, listens to loud rock on a boom box, and skateboards around the focker's house... and chris rock or tracy morgan voicing a sassy talking pet dog... this should be the third fockers movie

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Meet the Fockers is unrewatchable....

    by jaysin420

    if that's a word.

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Fock both of them

    by Det. John Kimble

    What the hell happened to these guys?

  • Nov. 12, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Poor Harvey hasn't done good work since

    by lockesbrokenleg

    fucking who knows when.

  • Nov. 13, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST

    What Jessica Alba is in it too? Going to suck.

    by bigi2na

    Oh she is very nice to look at, but terrible to watch her on the big screen pretending to be an actress.

  • Nov. 13, 2009, 7:53 a.m. CST

    That sellout list

    by paulloch

    three of them really needed the money, Cage, Brando, Caine, cause they weren't so smart with their finances. If all of them waited for that great script, they wouldn't be working and be easily completely forgotten by the modern public. Hackman and Duvall, equal in stature to those actors, have by and large stayed away from the big paycheck/awful script, and their q ratings are nil to modern audiences.