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‘I Wish That Was All He Was Doing!!’ Henchman 21 Takes Center Stage In Sunday’s VENTURE BROS. 4.4!!
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O Mighty Hercules:
Why no talkback for THE VENTURE BROS.? It airs out of primetime so it never gets mentioned in your ratings stories the way CURB, DEXTER, AMAZING RACE and DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES etc etc etc do!
Fair enough! “Venture” also remains one of the two funniest comedies airing!!
Last week’s 4.3, “Perchance To Dean,” saw Dean's mutant clone meet an overdue grisly end when he embraced one of Hatred’s exploding Lawn Rusties.
Tonight’s installment:
In the aftermath of the death of his best friend, Henchman 21 has rededicated his life to become the most feared and skilled of all of the Monarch’s Henchmen. But tonight, all bets are off as Henchman 21 begins the hunt for the murderer of Henchman 24. Alliances shift, secrets are revealed, and the Venture brothers are kidnapped. Again.
Titles of season four’s first six:
4.1 Blood of the Father, Heart of Steel
4.2 Handsome Ransom
4.3 Perchance to Dean
4.4 Return to Malice
4.5 The Revenge Society
4.6 Self-Medication
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Why no talkback for THE VENTURE BROS.? It airs out of primetime so it never gets mentioned in your ratings stories the way CURB, DEXTER, AMAZING RACE and DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES etc etc etc do!
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I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is that right? 8 episodes now and than a break until sometime in 2010.
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venture bros. gets a weekly talkback but not dexter? fuck u herc
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You are gentleman and a scholar.
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Dr. Mrs. The Monarch and 21. I smell a Luke and Leia type reveal.
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Don't make me cry. R.I.P 24!
Nice to have a Venture talkback again. -
Nov 08, 2009 6:31:38 PM CST
You're now back on my Christmas Card list, Herc...
by shut the fuck up donny
Thank you.
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Doc and Jackson got a 16-episode season. But in order to maintain quality product, they didn't want to rush it, so they split it up into two half seasons. I don't mind personally, as it's totally worth the wait.
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Like a cheap , good looking hooker. You have managed to make many people happy ...by posting this.
This is one of the best shows out there that nobodys watching..It needs word of mouth. -
Nov 08, 2009 6:40:24 PM CST
Here's hoping Sgt. Hatred kicks some ass tonight...
by shut the fuck up donny
I like it when the generally-incompetent villains in the show rise to the occasion once in a while. It's a nice change of pace, and gives a little more flavor to the characters.
The brief Monarch/Underbheit match-off in season one ("Home Insecurity") was a good example of that. -
Not trying to hate, seriously -- My taste normally lines up pretty well with Herc's...But is there a reason I don't think this is funny? Have I needed to be a fan from the start? Is there an inside joke? Need to be a stoner as with much of Adult Swim stuff? Just not sure but worried that I don't get it -- Tell me what I need to know so I can like this and feel on the pulse again.
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being a stoner helps
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Read a lot of comics, and yes, the continuity is key, so watch from the beginning. I asked this before, but did anyone else feel their heart break when Rusty did the "hard reboot" on HELPER rather than put him in therapy in the first ep of this season? Is no one else evolved enough to love a robot?
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You're not likely to enjoy this. Its like all the old cheap-ass cartoons from that time period shoved into a blender with Marvel Comics and Johnny Quest...ya either get it or ya dont.
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I just realized why it looked so familiar, I believe it is referencing when Morpheus in The Sandman killed the head of his son Orpheus. If that was intentional then Publick and Hammer have attained a new level of badassedness.
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it helps to have watched from the beginning, it started off as a parody of johnny quest and a lot of other old animated shows, but it's evolved into its own show with its own mythology, thats one of the things that makes it so great. and for the record, I'm not a stoner, I was born in 89, and this is one of my favorite shows, if not my favorite.
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. . . in spite of some very extreme changes. Hatred is a pretty weak replacement for Sampson though. Here's hoping they get some of the other regulars involved pronto. And BradP, I wouldn't say you have to watch it all from the very beginning, but w/ the shit going down now, you definitely have to check out quite a bit. Actually, its hard to imagine what I'd make of the show were I to finally discover it this season.
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GO TEAM VENTURE!
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Not really sure what, but this is the first season I just haven't been thrilled by an episode. Still look forward to it every week, but I remember every season being better than the last. Maybe they're stretching themselves too thin creatively and its bugging me.
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and i am a stoner born in the 70's.
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FUCK YOU BETTY! FUCK YOU, NEVER COME BACK, AND BRING BACK THE TEACHER!
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curse you mozilla! This season is very disjointed because it's in two, but I love it anyway. GO TEAM MOTHERFUCKING VENTURE!
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Last week's deformed Dean clone was so-so (although I had that reaction to a few last season that really grew on me) but this had me laughing a LOT.
I also like that they have pretty well balanced the incompetent trivial Monarch with the fact that this guy has murdered like 70 people since the series started -- tonight you really get to see what Sheila and Gary see in him (like her tirade last season about the Monarch being the "real thing") also I loved the confrontation with the moppets (and especially her feeding them scraps under the dinner table -- "they'll just beg") -
Also, I understand they're trying to do a bit more on the boys since they feel they were rather neglected last season.
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Hands fucking down. The weakest episode still rapes all others with its awesome cock.
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Probably my favorite Halloween costume I've ever put together. Not everyone got it (it's shocking how few people actually watch this show — and this was in Atlanta, home of Adult Swim) but the ones who did loved it, and that was more than enough.
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I keep forgetting VB this season
No idea why but always forget
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From the start. I have only been a casual viewer, but I generally liked what I have seen, but this season has been really blah so far. I am really giving it a try, but so far, haven't really liked it. I am not a stoner, but watched the original JQ when I was a kid.
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as somebody said, even the worst episode of venture beats the best episode of something like family guy or 2 1/2 men or something, last week was just alright for me, this week was a little better, the first 2 episodes were fantastic. Looks like itll pick up the plot development next week, and the reveal of the council of 13! I wonder if bowie will come back
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Besides being Brock-less, leaving nearly EVERY fucking character voiced by Jackson or Doc, there's definitely something not gelling with this season. As for this week's episode, still soft but a little more on-target. Some dirty pillowtalk, and 21 goes a little batshit insane, and the ghost of 24 seems to be doin' some crazy whatchamahoozit.
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Somehow at once both badass and yet still total geek. Reminds me of this friend I had who was a fat math nerd in middle school who loved star trek. Trek made him want to join the military but he was totally out of shape. I didn't think he'd ever make it, but he spent all of high school getting in shape and now he flies jets for the air force. And he married a gorgeous swede. true story. Cept now he's kind of an ass cuz he thinks he's better than everyone. Still, deep down inside he's totally still just a nerd. Anyway, what was I talking about? Oh yeah, for all the pop culture references what I love about VB is the way this insane superhero universe has these characters that are simultaneously absurd and believable.
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to get into the show without Brock in it.
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Is Brock gone because the actor is gone or is it for story? Because Hatred was hilarious in small doses but is now annoying. Its still great but very weak compared to last season, i understand they are focussing on small groups of charcters at a time to flesh them out and its good to have continuity which most cartoons ignore but my favourite episodes are the ones that are completely mental and self contained. The House of Mummies part 2 (which will remain in my memory forever as I spent 10 minutes searching the internet for where the hell part 1 was and then pissed myself laughing when I realised) and the one with the 'Ignore me!' alien
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It took a while for me to really get into it, but once I did it became one of my all time favorites. Part of it is the delivery... Some of the funniest jokes are completely undersold, and the pacing it uses for both the jokes and the episodes themselves can be unusual. Ultimately though, this show is the cartoon-equilivent replacement for my Arrested Development fix, with its incredibly smart "stupid" humor.
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From the Comic-con stuff they said Brock was gone, but Patrick Warburton wasn't. They apparently were misleading us with respect to ep 1, although he hasn't been seen since. However, my understanding is Brock will be back eventually and Patrick Warburton is still on board, but I could have missed something.
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Are you ever going to post your interview with Publick and Hammer? Among the teasers you posted in your review of the Venture Brothers panel and your summary of an interview you conducted you mentioned something about Bowie and he was shown in the 4th season trailer. What was the tidbit about Bowie you were going to post.
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This season along with all the others, starts off with plot and character development. The Captain Sunshine and last nights have been the best so far. I love 21's new role and how he's still a geek at heart but puts on the tough guy front in front of the other henchmen.
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If they bring him back next week, we had the perfect amount of HATRED eps. If he stays longer, he'll overstay his welcome.
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Obviously, the first Season 4 episode was just setup to temporarily take Brock off the board by joining SPHINX until it's time to move the Molotov/Blackhearts/Hunter storyline back to the front burner again. That's why you're getting stuff with Hank constantly wearing Brock's jacket (even to bed apparently) and ripping on Sgt. Hatred as a poor substitute for Brock.
Oh, and was anyone else weirded out with Rusty and Dr. Mrs. The Monarch casually chatting with one another. She wasn't even annoyed with his typical lame come-ons.
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Not a big Hatred fan, but you should know that Hatred will never replace Brock. I seriously started chuckling like an hour after watching, when I realized where the "D" in hatred, fell on his body.
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I hope they don't do some weird revelation or love triangle with Rusty and Dr. Girlfriend. Monarch's girl problems have been done to death. Monarch's funny comes from a mix of successes (Dr. Gf, Captain Sunshine, scaring the shit out of the moppets, etc) and failiures (anything involving Doctor Venture). If he's incompetent at all areas, he's just another bumbling cartoon villain.
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Venture talkback...hells yeah. The first two episodes this season were amazing, last two have been good but not great. 21's workout partner had me laughing my ass off. Monarch scaring the shit out of the hated moppets was a welcome sight. Not much Orpheus or Brock, but the show has still been entertaining. Do hope to see Order of the Triad pretty soon.
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Nov 09, 2009 10:00:33 AM CST
David Cloverfield, The Monarch will go INSANE if Rusty & Dr. G h
by spyguy
...or even if there's a THREE'S COMPANY-style misunderstanding that makes The Monarch think Rusty's hooking up with his wife. I mean, think about it...His arch-enemy (officially Guild-sanctioned or otherwise) that he obsesses over and apparently has disturbing sexual thoughts about mixed in with his huge jealousy issues over Dr. Girlfriend/Mrs. The Monarch's past relationships? That's a Monarch meltdown cranked all the way up to eleven right there.
On the other hand, if it DID happen, I wonder how many people would root for The Monarch to kick Rusty's ass?
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Edit feature, how I love you...
Oh. WAIT...
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They hinted at that during the Season two finale and it was pretty much DOA. I am curious about the head of 24 marking the Venture Bros off the list. It was a better episode from last week, but the Captains Sunshine maybe the funniest half hour in all of television this year. Hatred is getting better, but this show really misses Brock kill random bitches.
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While "Perchance to Dean" made me laugh the most this season so far, I still got some good guffaws from this episode. The 21 (24?) gun salute was a great sight gag. Plus, I love how 24's death is not just a throwaway gag, but now a vehicle for the story. A nerd soap opera if there ever was one!
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was anyone else reminded of the Simpsons Halloween episode with the "evil" Bart twin that lived in the attic?
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I'm in the same boat man. And I've watched this since before it was a cult hit. I've seen every episode and I just don't find it that funny. I read a shit ton of comics and get the continuity. Maybe watching them on DVD would be better? Since the seasons are so far apart I watch too much shit inbetween and forget everything about. I enjoy it and will keep watching it, and their are a lot of older cartoon references in their I don't get. Its one of the few trendy cool things that people love that I don't hate for somereason. So I like that. I think because the creators seem to give the fans what they love and like so much I respect that about it. Where as other things people go nuts over that I don't like I just instantly hate for whatever reason. And I don't think smoking a lot of weed helps. Thats more for Xavier and Tom Goes To the Mayor.....which is why I like those shots a hundred times more then Venture. If I watch Venture while toked, it makes no sense and is boring.
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The wild places the scriptwriters take this show on a weekly basis keeps me watching. I do miss the standalone episodes and Bizarro-world versions of comic book/pulp novel/TV/movie characters (the ghost pirate ship has to be my favorite episode). Not always the funniest show, but never brain dead.
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Yeah, definitely. I only wish the mainstream would acquire this kind of taste. Or, maybe I don't. Really, nothing appeals to everyone anymore.This show is one of only two that consistently makes me laugh every episode.Last season, people began to complain there wasn't enough of the brothers in the show bearing their name. This year's episodes, so far, have been very Dean-and-Hank-centric. That's great! If you'd've asked me to enjoy a VENTURE BROTHERS without Brock Sampson, I would've told you that made about as much sense as a Batman comic without Bruce Wayne. I'm sure Brock's new adventures will be the subject of upcoming episodes, and they'll be hilarious, but, right now, I'm not missing him too much.There has never been a parody show that has developed into something so rich and full of character. It's in its fourth season, now, so of course it will be hard to "get into." Still, I think anyone who has ever appreciated a comic book or a Saturday morning cartoon would be happy they made the effort.
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Any photos online? Would love to see 'em.
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Gotta love AS.
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http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/11/09/fringe-exclusive-j-j-abrams-on-ratings-and-future/
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Can't get enough Venture Bros, but "Xavier: Renegade Angel" can go away forever. Fuck that show.
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I kinda wish they'd pace the overall story arc a little faster. It was nice to get a little of White and Quuzboy, but these few episodes, with the exception of the season opener, heve felt a little isolated.
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Their little chat isn't weird, Sheila LIKES Rusty -- not LIKES LIKES, just LIKES -- which in Venture universe doesn't preclude regular attempts at murder -- he reminds her of her husband and she thinks the two of them would be friends if not for ... y'know.
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Or did the wizard 21 beat up during his training montage look suspiciously like Harry? That would rank up there with the SNL shout out they did a few years ago with Horatio Sanz. Just saying.
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seems a little sedated.
Best part of the episode was the opening conversation/debate between henchmen.
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Vern Chapman is a philosophic genius who needs to be allowed more writing input with South Park.
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Is that like Harry The Wheel Chair guy from Postal?
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That occurred to me also! I love this show! I watch when sober and it's still brilliant. Though I must admit I watched when baked too...that bit when Brock uses the giant statue's own arm to repeatedly punch it in the balls had me in the biggest giggly fit I'd had in years! GO TEAM VENTURE!
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Hank and Dean's emotional growth isn't as much fun as their stunted, backward behavior in previous seasons. "Brock's Son" has never been funny and Hatred wore thin as a guest character and is just a pain this season.
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Because of the effect he has on Brock, which is hilarious.
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Nov 09, 2009 3:57:26 PM CST
"You're not a doctor? I've been calling you Doctor Girlfriend fo
by skimn
I'm not that kind of doctor...as someone stated above, even just good Venture episodes have nuggets of comedy gold. But I too feel like the past two episodes have been holding back a bit.
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Considering they have just been fodder for 3 seasons (both comic and cannon) I like the take that they are becoming enjoyable characters in their own right, especially Hank. Hanks is only a few steps away from becomng a legitimately cool character. And let's not forget Dean in a Floyd hole. I miss Brock, but I know it's only temprorary, the show is obviously building on a serial plotline this season that will grow episode by episode, like Lost, but good.
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... "“Venture” also remains one of the two funniest comedies airing!!" what is the other one (in Herc's opinion)?
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At the end of the episode, were they hinting that 24's Skull might be possessed with his ghost? Perhaps there's hope to see 24 return afterall.
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Reminds me of Sean Connery's skull in Highlander 2. Perhaps 24 returns for no apparent reason like Connery did in Highlander 2.
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I'm on TIme Warner, NYC, keeps skipping this show, no idea why.
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As funny as 21 is on his own, you can't beat the dynamic he had with 24. You know it, I know it and even The Monarch knows it.
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The beginning with 21 laying the smackdown on Nessie & Champ? Awesome. Also, The Time Machine.
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24 humming theme music and making sound effects while getting dressed. He MUST return!
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24 pushing imaginary buttons on the side of his closet.Good times.
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was Mars I think, by beethoven or someone. Plus: Why does no one want to talk about the murder of HELPER, probably only the most recent one. I mean killing the boys repeatedly is no big shakes, clones are creatures of God, and those are born and die all the time. But a robot sentience is a precious and sacred thing. For one it's manmade. Mankind finally outgrows himself by creating a potentially immortal consciousness, and then that sucker goes and wipes his memories like that... It's just so.. evil. Paid for by, TDVSBASVUC.
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24 was the one in the Nissan Stanza waiting for 21 to get dressed.
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obvious troll is obvious.
Venture Bros. is one of the most insanely brilliant shows ever to be broadcast. Yes, it's insular. Yes, it's self-indulgent. Yes, it's often totally goofy. And so was a show called Monty Python's Flying Circus that just happened to be insane and brilliant. -
In regards to the skull at the end of the episode...
Did no one else notice the hand that checked off 'The Ventures' from 21's list?
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wish Adult Swim would fucking replay them, could someone tell me what happened to Brock? I feel so lost!
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But that happened last season, not this season, so you are still not excused from the quiz. Take your seat.
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Brock's absence is explained in the first episode. You can watch it at adult swim and the plot is summarized by a couple people in the episode 1 talkback (there was one). It was summarized because parts of the episode were shown out of sequence in the actual episode AND CN apparemtly fucked up the early showing of the episode.
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He is my number 1 pick for 24's murderer.
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I got dish it didn't skip the show, but the audio kept droping all the time. At first I thought it was bleeping, but then I heard bleeps. But the commercials were fine? It was fucking annoying I'm gonna have to watch it online.
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the funniest, and best written show on tv right now.
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I had the same problem with TWC HD. The sound kept dropping out. I had to watch it on I Tunes. Not HD, but at least it was anamorphic.
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Monarch was great, especially in dealing with 21.. and did Rusty and Sheila have a moment? That scene tied it all together..
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Cartoon Network has to get these guys to pump out more episodes. Takes way to long to get a new episode out.
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The same thing happened to me but I have Direct TV..on the replay at 4am or whatever time it was..it was okay
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Have Verizon Fios and I'm glad I was watching it because it didn't record at all. I went to look at the episode description and it was describing an episode from last season. I have the DVR set to record only new shows, so maybe the program guide info was screwed up elsewhere, too.
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21: What's the password?
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