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AICN Exclusive: WOLFMAN poster!!! It's very Film Noir...

Hey folks, Harry here with the debut of the killer film noir-esque 1 sheet of the WOLFMAN!!! Now earlier today the good folks at Cinematical were given the Emily Blunt poster - and now we have the Benicio as the WOLFMAN poster. If you read my interview with Joe Johnston - you'll see that part of what Joe was going for with this WOLFMAN is a film noir aspect. Now the film is of course color, but it does play with dark shadows and stark lighting in spots. So - what do you think of the two posters thus far? Oh and if you click below - you'll get the big version for your desktop!





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  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Del Toro shoudl get lone billing.

    by JuanSanchez

    DEL TORO is THE WOLFMAN. Things get hairy this winter.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Looks similar to the 2001 Planet of the Apes character posters..

    by whatupsummmmmmbitch

    Not exactly groundbreaking. Movie looks good though.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Robin Williams needs a shave

    by gavdiggity

    that is all.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    let the font bitching begin haha

    by snallyg

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    OMG! IT'S PETER JACKSON!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    That.....

    by D o o d

    is a beautiful poster!

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    like it...

    by reni

    but f.u. universal if you've ruined the film.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Is that Micheal Jackson's Wolfman?

    by Myopiniondontmeanshit

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Regarding that font...

    by TrumpyEatsPotatoes

    It's the Wolfman-Mothman Prophecies. Um.<br><br>Look it up. It's true.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    that font...

    by tiltandflip

    yes... Trajan... the only typeface poster designers can use apparently.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    How is this Noir?

    by Continentalop

    How is this Noir-esque Harry? Because it is black & high contrast? Wow, what a easy criteria to be noir. So I guess that the poster for Paranormal Activity is noir-esque as well, because it has a shadow on a door, and noir was all about shadows. <P> The term noir is so overused nowadays...

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    That's a badass poster!!!

    by sonnyfern

    But yeah...the font sucks. Fuck Twilight.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    love the poster...

    by Logan_1973

    ...And I hope this film delivers. My BRAM STOKERS' DRACULA needs a companion piece...

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    I don't like the orange letters....

    by The Dum Guy

    Reminds me of pumpkins.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    SEXY!

    by Fettster_uk

    I love this and have high hopes for this film.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Bram Stoker's Dracula already has a companion piece

    by snallyg

    "Mary Shelley's Frankenstein" Not a great adaptation, but memorable for its ridiculous elements("potatooo!" Egomaniac Branagh buffed and shirtless, etc)

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    WHAT? THIS WASNT RELEASED LAST YEAR?

    by uberman

    I thought this already came out. I waited a loooooong time for it, but now I've totally lost interest. Must suck, being released in Feb. 2010. Just call it 'Straight to DVD'.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Well THAT looks familiar...

    by ROBRAM89

    The shot seems to be framed specifically to make the makeup look. EXACTLY. Like the original makeup. which is cool.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Cool

    by finky089

    Though, i would have something with just a lone hill and big full moon and maybe a silhouette of the wolfman off to the side. <p> But as far as giant half-heads go, I'm down with this one.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Frankenstien Vs The Wolfman..

    by Fettster_uk

    ..was my all time favourite Universal monster movie. Can we get De Nero back to fight Del Toro? I'd watch that!

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Another overused description...

    by snallyg

    Epic.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Also - they missed the boat not releasing this in Oct

    by finky089

    did they think October was too crowded already? Fine, what about this weekend? <p> "Just b/c Halloween is over doesn't mean you're safe from....The Wolfman."

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Seriously, the previews look awful

    by dr sauch

    Hopkins looks bad, Del Toro looks bad, the effects look awful. Really, its the effects that kill it.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    The term you're looking for is 'chiaroscuro'...

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    ...an Italian way of saying 'strong black/white contrast' -- although it is a strong element of classic film noir cinematography, it is not the ONLY thing that makes a noir film a noir film.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    When did Emily Blunt become a 'star'?

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    Why the fuck is her name up there? Outside of this website, i'd probably have to explain who she is if i mentioned her name. She does not deserve to have her name up on a fucking poster with Hopkins and Del Toro.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    WOLFMANS GOT NARDS!

    by ScottLott

    watch Tyler Hopkins kick ass! then call him at 647-236-2662 http://www.vimeo.com/6869175

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    As a HUGE Universal Monster fan--

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    and member of the online Universal Monster Army, I look forward to each of these modern reinterpretations with equal parts excitement and dread. My earliest memories as a Monster Kid are of watching a local program called "Fright Night" that ran the old Universal pictures, and "The Wolfman" is my personal favorite Universal film and favorite Monster. "The Wolfman" was the first major character in Universal's series of fright films not based on a specific literary source, but only on the imagination of Curt Siodmak. The script written by Siodmak created most of the myths regarding werewolves we now know and love. I was excited about this project two years ago when the first pics of Rick Baker's amazing make-ip designs were released, but a troubled shooting history, six weeks of reshoots and word that much of Baker's work has been replaced with CGI has me worried. "Marry Shelley's Frankenstein" was a disaster that started out faithfully enough before going bugnuts. I basically hate Stephen Sommers' "The Mummy" and LOATH the piece of absolute shit that is "Van Helsing." "Bram Stoker's Dracula" is campy fun, but it's a far cry from Todd Browning's "Dracula." So it has been an often painful history when it comes to these modern Monster films, but hope springs eternal. If it means anything, I was DYING for this to be included in BNAT X! I've waited a long, long time. I hope it's good.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    noir just because its B&W??

    by FleshMachine

    nothing so noir about it. boring poster.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    of course harry will love the film

    by FleshMachine

    even though it looks to be mediocre at best.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    So anything black and white is considered noir now?

    by solanine

    What?

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Does he have a tail?

    by NippleEffect

    No squid, no deal

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Thank you Margot_Tenenbaum

    by Continentalop

    I was trying to remember that damn word, " "chiaroscuro" but having a horrible brain fart. <p> Don't worry, I lit a match afterwards...

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    You know what was really Noir-esque?

    by Continentalop

    SCHINDLER'S LIST. That and YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN. Yep, those were very Noir.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    lol

    by GINGE_MUPPET

    Crap poster .... crap news.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Some people just like werewolf movies...

    by The Dum Guy

    It isn't like we get a big budget one that often.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Reminds me of the Spawn movie poster

    by BlackBriar

    Looks good! Now this a true telling of a werewolf story, not the Twlight series Horse shit!! Go to Hell Twlight!

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Eye of the Zombie II by

    by ScabbyKnee

    John Fogerty

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL - hates womanfolk, does ye??

    by FamousEccles

    and please explain why the other three deserve a place on the poster. Hopkins is some kind of god to you is he? Fucker is just an older, British Tommy Lee Jones. plays the same character in every single movie. and his Hannibal Lektor is shit. so there!!

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:31 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Really, Harry? You of all people think this is "noir"? YOU?! I expect this sort of shit from a guy like Merrick, sure.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    This Movie Looks Cheesy

    by skani

    Trailer looks like a Stephen Sommers flick. Big budget, no substance. Deeply skeptical.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    He looks kind of...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...cute. You know, like a puppy you just woke up. That can't be right. I think it's the nose.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    By the way...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...although I think the poster is a miss I'm still pretty hopeful about the movie.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Okay,we've got Lurky.Where's Murky's poster?

    by BuckminsterOhare

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:49 p.m. CST

    michael jacksons ghost is hilarious

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    FUCKING awful

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST

    This just in, 3D Star Wars Editions will have wookie balls!

    by JuanSanchez

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST

    The balls will be played in mo-cap by Doug Jones!

    by JuanSanchez

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    This poster is remarkable

    by snallyg

    says Larry King

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    The wookie balls will multiply like tribbles!

    by JuanSanchez

    Lucas is beating Abrahms to the punch!

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    "Noir" = studio talking point

    by Rubiks Doob

    Cinematical was calling their lame poster noir as well. I see nothing noir at all in this, unless any image mostly devoid of full color is noir that is...

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Not to impressive.

    by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Great Poster...

    by ChezKing

    Love it. This movie is going to be an absolute blast. The greatest werewolf movie of all time.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:16 p.m. CST

    hello

    by dilbynuggets

    I liked this poster It lokks cool cuz hes harry and kind of freaky but this movies will be godd. I like it that hes big on it. that will be awesome if hes big in the show to.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    A film noir poster

    by Gwai Lo

    Would look like a poster made between about 1940 and 1960. It would suggest a movie in the crime thriller genre. It would probably advertise a reluctant working class antihero as the lead. It might suggest that the film has a femme fatale, chiaroscuro lighting, an urban setting or a distinctly American take on the crime picture. </p> In other words, only Harry and The French see any noir in this Wolfman poster.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Looks good, typically most AICN TB's are blind

    by quantize

    and fucking stupid.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:22 p.m. CST

    I guess President Obama is "Film Noir"....

    by BacardiRocky

    if we go by Harry's definition.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    The newspaper is so film noir man.

    by Gwai Lo

    All that stark contrast.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    The "exclusive" poster thats featured on 10 other websites!

    by darth_fuck_shit

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Chewbacca The Movie

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Harry's Opinions

    by electroaddict

    Harry likes any movie that treats him well and gives him special attention. Harry hates any movie that treats him "badly" (in other words, just like any other viewer- or worse). Haven't we all learned that by now. If this (bland) poster is truly an AICN "EXCLUSIVE" then they've given Harry all the fanboy loving he needs to give this film a full two-thumbs up, five star, A+ rating.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    I like it.

    by Spazatronik2000

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Off Topic: Bunch of Avatar TV spots

    by Johnno

    New footage, marketing, eye-fuckery, etc etc.<br> tinyurl.com/yc6vsgm <br> tinyurl.com/y95y5dz <br> tinyurl.com/yaz4cw7 <br> tinyurl.com/y9kkokm

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    The avatar TV spot with the rear-view mirror...

    by TheWaqman

    is epic.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    X-MEN!

    by RockLobster800

    I recall an ad campaign for X men with all the different characters that was identical to this..not literally but ye know what I mean.the same idea, lay out, colouring all that. saying that, I hope this film turns out to be good....I mean it has got benicio....

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Teeth

    by RoarsLoudly

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Where are the

    by RoarsLoudly

    Teeth?

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    WOW not a good poster at all

    by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY

    really bad

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Benicio Del Toro needs more film roles...

    by TheWaqman

    he should be getting the roles Javier Bardem is getting. Like what the fuck Innaritu? Why you ditching Del Toro for Bardem? It would be even more epic with both actors in that upcoming film.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    electroaddict

    by HEADGEEK

    I still don't know what to think about WOLFMAN. The trailers have me a little rocky on the film. I've no idea what script they shot, did Joe get what he wanted? What exactly happened to Elfman's score? Who is in charge? And why did they have to move it?

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    no Elfman, no thanks

    by oscarmike

    will wait for the DVD

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Fuck this boring-ass poster...

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    ...Danny Elfman's Wolfman score is getting dumped?!

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Gerard Butler is in this?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    It's Joe Johnston. He made Rocketeer. Ergo, he is infallible.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Even if Wolfman or any other film he makes is less than stellar, he still made Rocketeer. He is therefore greater than any of you deserve.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Not even close to a film noir style.

    by Stifler's Mom

    I can see a tiny amount of noir influence in the ugly one-sheets for LAW ABIDING CITIZEN. But this WOLFMAN poster is just bland and there's nothing about it that says classic noir. What are you smoking, Harry?

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    they really gotta try hard to fuck this up.

    by MacReady452

    I mean..EFFORT needs to be put in..to fuck this up. I can tell you how good this movie is with only one answer to one question. How many buckets of blood were used in the making of this movie? If it is less than 100 it is a failure.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Who gives a fuck about this movie?

    by scriptgirl_nipples

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Stop staring at me like that Chewie!

    by sevadro

    Between this and the other poster - you have to wonder why these ad guys get paid so much?

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    um

    by Spazatronik2000

    "Hollywood's classic film noir period is generally regarded as stretching from the early 1940s to the late 1950s. Film noir of this era is associated with a low-key black-and-white visual style that has roots in German Expressionist cinematography." What are YOU idiots smoking?

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    new AVTR stuff

    by quantize

    look nice, the Coke ad is ultra douchey though...to be expected. There's still a hint of cartoon looks popping up in some of those shots..particularly the long shots with walking and running...look closer. Otherwise, some very convincing closeup stuff that suggests maybe the first trailers was unfinished stuff.

  • Nov. 6, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Film noir?

    by cinemixtape.com

    What the fuck?

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    reminds me of Spawn

    by Virtual Satyr

    http://tinyurl.com/yjy3yyq

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST

    This website is so noir.

    by Exasperilious

    noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir noir

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Wolfman will be one of those movies that -

    by Professor_Monster

    could have been good if the studios had left it alone - but you are right Harry - it looks like they may have tried to remake Bram Stokers Dracula. The cool part will be just that - but the boring parts will ruin everything around.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Quantize, give me a link.And the poster isn't film noir

    by RedJester

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    COPPOLA'S DRACULA WAS GREAT.

    by uberman

    Aside from keanu, it had loads of atmosphere and great sets/direction and creature Fx. For me it is easily the best Dracula of them all.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST

    February release is never a good sign

    by daggor

    Sure, we get some OK films, but February means the studio doesn't have the highest hopes for it.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Mark Romanek shoud have directed this

    by _Palmer_Eldritch

    but he was smart enough to pull out after the studio went all crazy about their "vision" (which most likely is hugely retarded!). <p> Johnston is a hack, no doubt. So the studio is happy and we'll get another bland "ok but nothing special" blockbuster, I'm afraid.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:12 a.m. CST

    "And the poster isn't film noir"

    by Spazatronik2000

    it's not? http://tinyurl.com/yf65fuc http://tinyurl.com/ygtrkg7 http://tinyurl.com/yjb2hr7 http://tinyurl.com/ygqh6ms

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST

    Most Recent Trailer I Saw

    by theayatollah

    Was attached to Paranormal Activity, and actually made me think it had great potential. I initially was expecting another Sleepy Hollow debacle, in which the Headless Horseman was scarier in the Disney version (Wind in the Willows). As for the poster? Bland, I'm not impressed.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Can't wait for the scene where Del Toro..

    by MacReady452

    ..humps Tony Hopkins leg. You won't see the red rocket cause this is film noir. it will just be gray rocket.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Why not "Camera Obscura"-ish?

    by ruedisueli

    I heard they shot a scene involving Bruce, Sly and Arnold deciding to hunt down Benicio.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 4:46 a.m. CST

    The Emily Blunt poster is good

    by Lone Fox

    This one's okay. Hardly inspired, but compared to the Bad Lieutenant poster it's a work of unparalleled genius. And, we get to see Rick Baker's work.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 4:53 a.m. CST

    I was looking forward to this.

    by hallmitchell

    Yet my gut feeling says along with the Expendables that they've blown it.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Wowee Wowee Wowee WOW WOW WOWSERS!!!!

    by Sal_Bando

    A BIG MONKEY!!!!!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 8:40 a.m. CST

    FamousEccles

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    I shouldn't even dignify this was a response seeing as you're just being a bridge-dwelling asshole but still...<p>(1) No Hopkins isn't some kind of God to me. What he IS, though, is an extremely talented actor who brings a certain dignity to whatever role he takes. There are a lot of actors in Hollywood who could learn from him when it comes to the craft. He is, in fact, reknowned for his preparation for roles.<p>(2) He does not play the same character in every movie. I suggest you EDUCATE yourself before wading into a topic you know nothing about by watching his performances as Hitler, C.S Lewis and Richard Nixon. If you don't have time (or the resources), watch Remains Of The Day and Silence Of The Lambs back-to-back to see two completely different sides of Hopkins.<p>(3) His Lechter was not "shit" and you need to back up that response with evidence please. However, I will concede that I prefer Cox's portrayal of the character more than Hopkins'. Personal preferance.<p>(4) Who the FUCk are you anyway?

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Spaza, and your point is?

    by RedJester

    They're both black and white photography? Didn't realize that automatically put something into the film noir catagory...

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Spaza, and your point is?

    by RedJester

    They're both black and white photography? Didn't realize that automatically put something into the film noir catagory...

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Noir-a term for wannabe filmmakers and film snobs

    by alienindisguise

    Give it a rest!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Where's the Carl Ballantine Talkback!?

    by DrunkenBusboy

    Where's the Carl Ballantine Talkback!? Haven't you learned your lesson by never posting an Ed McMahon Talkback! Carl Ballantine was funny as hell and a pioneer in the art of Comedy/Magic! R.I.P. Old Friend!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    MASSIVE Failure for the Studio

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    This is going to fall 80 percent the 2nd week, and won't be #1.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Oh, and for the record?

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE has maxed out at around $65,043,335. FUCKING FAIL! Remember when I called it not breaking $100m? FUCKING FAIL. You can grovel at my feet now.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    The script was shit

    by reflecto

    No thanks.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Spymunk. Why the fuck are you so keen for genre flicks to fail?

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Don't understand the way some people here delight in predicting doom for films. It's a Joe Johnston werewolf film. It has my money right there. The fact that the trailers so far have hinted at a pretty decent film overall gets my full attention beyond the love for the real JJ. Not sure what you people want. A bit of attention perhaps? There there spymunk. It's ok. Daddy Hint loves you. There, feel better?

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Hint - No, Nothing So Much As That

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    I actually do it because I believe in truth. You hear people talking on here about it being the next "blockbuster." No, no, idiot, fucking no (not you, the people who call it blockbuster). Also, you hear people saying "WOW, AT LONG LAST GENRE MOVIES ARE BEING ACCEPTED!" No, no, fucking no, idiot (genre films are not being accepted. DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN did well IN SPITE of the source material, not BECAUSE of it. Comics, to most people on the street, are just BIFF! POW! WHAM! and -always will be no matter how much evidence you throw out because people are fucking dim-ass morons!)! People were saying that WILD THINGS was going to be a massive hit. NO, NO, FUCKING NO, IDIOTS. People had hope that genre movies will someday be respected. No. No. Fucking. No. Idiots. I don't want attention. If posts on here were like "Hey, they're making a WEREWOLF MOVIE that nobody will see staring an uncharismatic Latino lead who can't manage a decent British accent" I'd've never posted. I hate the way people delude themselves. If you're a genre fan, here's the facts: YOU'RE GOING TO BE VIEWED AS A WEIRDO AND BE DESPISED AND MISTREATED BY EVERYONE, MOCKED AND DERIDED AND PARODIED. YOU WILL BE LOATHED AND HATED. Do you realize that in the Robin Hood Hills murder case they wanted to kill a teen because he liked horror flicks? Consider it. THEY WANTED TO EXECUTE HIM WITHOUT EVIDENCE EXCEPT FOR THE EVIDENCE THAT HE LIKED HORROR FILMS. Think.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Jo-Jo the dog-faced poster

    by Castlemonster

    That sucks. Reminds me of the Texas Chainsaw remake poster as far as the pose. They'd better wise up their marketing.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Coooool

    by thecheesegrommit

    I love the poster! That is all.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    ThusSpakeSpymunk...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...the incredible oversimplification of the Robin Hood Hills case aside...why are studios making genre pictures as fast and furiously as they can if the only ones that succeed do so "in spite" of them being genre films? Consider the bizarrely illogical nature of your statement here. It depends on all the studios sinking billions of dollars in total into genre films on the hope that some of them will somehow overcome being genre based to somehow make money. Maybe you live in a bad place. Maybe you're in a bad situation. If so you have my sympathy. But your point is nonsensical.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Robert Mitchum on FILM NOIR

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    OUT OF THE PAST "is now classified as a Film Noir film. The fact was, the high priced actors back at the studio like Cary Grant got all the lights. Our film was lit with cigarettes."

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil: great quote

    by drave117

    Now that quote? THAT is noir. This poster isn't even slightly noirish. Noir posters were lurid and colorful, mimicking the pulp novels that inspired them. See exhibits A-C. http://tinyurl.com/yd5rqcx http://tinyurl.com/yetsq3f http://tinyurl.com/yataqdr

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Does the "writer" of this post...

    by phifty2

    ...know what film noir is? <p> There's been a lot of complaints about AiC recently and I have to agree with them. The only thing holding this site together is the talk backs. <p> If joblo ever gets a talk back as good as this one then.....then

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    it's like AVATAR

    by SylarTheCylon

    but GAY

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Phifty2

    by drave117

    Might wanna read the comment below yours before you praise these talkbacks. For me, the talkbacks are the worst part of the site, yet I can't seem to make myself stop reading them. It's a bizarre kind of masochism. Every time a major movie comes out, it's always the same. In every large talkback, there are maybe a couple dozen people with something worth saying, and a couple HUNDRED hooting dickholes just vomiting conversational sewage in all directions.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Film Noir? No, it's very fucking Star Trek 2009

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Oh it's black and white so maybe the hairy red guy was trying to make a pun.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Looks Vaguely

    by MakNeil

    as if the photographer crossed the cover for John Fogerty's Eye Of The Zombie crossed with one of the posters for the revamped Star Trek. In other words, it's not bad, but just a tad reminiscent of other films and media.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Awesome. A huge face. You almost never see that.

    by ballsmcretard

    A poster with a huge face is cutting edge as fuck. Explosive.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Redjester

    by Spazatronik2000

    Ever heard of chiaroscuro? Didn't think so. So STFU. Thanks.

  • ...and the transformation in American Werewolf in London is still the best. Ever.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    ya and the Wolf poster was Noir as well

    by Spazatronik2000

    fuck you people are retarded.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Shouldn't there be a space between

    by Castlemonster

    "Wolf" and "Man"? Makes it sound like a Jewish guy. "I want you to meet my nephew, Harvey Wolfman. Such a nice boy!"

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    It's Wolftastic!

    by Orionsangels

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Or a superhero...WOLFMAN!

    by Castlemonster

    Whose special powers are that he can lick his own balls and he's impossible to train.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    It's Noir because everything is dark??

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    I get that, because it looks absolutely nothing like a poster for actual film noirs or even the b&w horror movies.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Spazatronik

    by Gwai Lo

    If you were paying attention to this talkback you might have noticed about ten people correctly state that film noir is not simply old tymey chiaroscuro lighting. If that was the case, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari would be film noir. The first scene in Antichrist would be film noir. Penguins would be film noir. Try Googling some actual film noir titles: Double Indemnity, Gun Crazy, Born to Kill, Out of the Past, The Big Sleep, Key Largo. Notice the time period these movies came from (please also notice that the Universal Monsters predate film noir and have nothing to do with it, same goes for Victorian England.) Please note that these movies are not about monsters at all, they are (mostly) about private dicks, dames and oppressive urban environments. Your misunderstanding is not your fault, mind you, since society at large has turned "film noir" into a descriptor for anything with high contrast imagery or one of the elements described above. But let's not be proud of our ignorance, shall we? Let's take this as an opportunity to learn more about cinema.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Jesus Harry

    by OceanWang

    Weren't most film noir posters in color? How the hell can a poster be film noir? A lot of newspapers are in black and white to. How film noir of them...

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Gwai Lo

    by drave117

    Amen to that. I got hooked on noir because of a close friend who used to sell rare videos on Ebay for a living. She was a wealth of film knowledge, and we would go to the Noir City festival every year when I lived in California. (I even met Ann Savage once and had her sign the program. If I ever make it to BNAT, I will give it to Harry as a birthday present.) But yes, noir does not merely equal high contrast black and white, with gritty urban settings. Hell, my favorite noir flick was filmed in Technicolor and takes place in the country!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Film noir is traditionally known for crime stories?

    by Spazatronik2000

    No shit? Wow thanks for the history lesson. I feel so much smarter now that you straightened me out. Now. Let's look at this 2 dimentional poster, shall we? No, it's not a movie. It's a POSTER. The poster is in black and white, with high contrast lighting. Very fucking simple. Also very much exactly like the lighting in old film noir movies. It's exactly the same. But you're trying to argue that it's NOT because there's not a private detective on in the poster? And you got a problem with the were-wolf? Good for you. I don't give a fuck. It's very film noir.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    OK, fine, ignore truth and logic.

    by Gwai Lo

    Yes, this is a poster. It doesn't look like a film noir poster. Look one up. A real one, not "Wolf" with Jack Nicholson. Most of them are in color, showcasing the lead as a shaggy dog type with a slinky female in the background somewhere. Maybe some cityscape in there. Obviously I'm generalizing. But this poster still comes nowhere close to this criteria. So let's use your criteria. The poster is black and white (and brown and orange) and has high contrast lighting. I guess this poster for Eagle Eye is noir, too: http://tinyurl.com/y9gzg3l<p>... Again, black and white is not the same thing as film noir. Consider how many black and white movies AREN'T noir. They're noir under your criteria. The term loses all meaning when you abuse it like that.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    with your logic

    by Spazatronik2000

    Film noir can't be using 'chiaroscuro' lighting, because it's not a renaissance oil painting with Christian or other random themes and scenes of just people from the 15th century. No. It can't possibly be 'chiaroscuro', they have to come up with a different name for it. Because I'm an anal retentive douchebag and it has to be my way.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    In Harry's Defense

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Joe Johnston clearly states in that other talkback that he was trying to make a NOIR movie. So I guess he's applying Noir techniques or themes to a werewolf movie set in Victorian England. Could be interesting. <br /><br />Either that or Johnston and Knowles don't know that the pre WWII Universal Horror movies should not be lumped in with the wartime and post war Noir movies, even though you could argue some of the techniques may have carried over from one to another.<br /><br />The whole thing is an academic exercise anyway. Film Noir was a title foisted on those films by the Cahiers Du Cinema critics AFTER the War when the French gained access to films they hadn't seen during the war. It's not like all those B picture makers sat around saying "I want this to be a Film Noir movie!"

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I don't give a flying fuck if some of the posters were in color

    by Spazatronik2000

    Harry was comparing this TWO DIMENTIONAL IMAGE to a SNAPSHOT from a BLACK AND WHITE FILM NOIR MOVIE. We're talking about a TWO DIMENTIONAL FUCKING IMAGE HERE not your long winded and pointless explanation of what a "film noir" movie is, again, I don't give a fuck.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    also

    by Spazatronik2000

    the Wolfman story IS A FUCKING CRIME STORY you pretentious fuckwad. There's a crime, there's a suspect, there's detectives, it's a fucking police story. It's fucking film noir. So fuck off.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    wow, look at the new trailer

    by Spazatronik2000

    that's fucking film noir too! Color me surprised!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Oh Look !

    by MattHooper

    It's a remake of "Wolf" with Jack Nicholson. How nice.

  • Anyway, noir is a pretty loosely definied genre, and I don't need Sam Spade looking for phantom wolves to accept a film noir Wolfman. Don't need to, either - Anthony Hopkins looks shaggier than del Toro, so this I've got to see.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    nothing wrong with decrying imprecise language

    by drave117

    Nothing about this poster says noir to me. It doesn't look like any posters from the noir era. It doesn't look like a still from a noir film. It doesn't look like it has anything to do with crime or seductive women. Now, I agree from watching the trailer that the quieter moments from the movie itself look heavily noir-influenced in terms of lighting and composition, but Harry didn't say that the movie looks like it might be noir-influenced. He said that the poster looks noir. I like the poster, and I big fan of noir, but I respectfully disagree.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    WerePooch

    by NippleEffect

    There Pooch

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    drave117/Spaz

    by Gwai Lo

    Exactly. Had Harry said "chiaroscuro" the debate wouldn't have started. And I did read the interview where Joe Johnston said he was going for film noir, but either he is also opting for a very loose and inaccurate definition of the term OR there's a whole bunch of film noir business in the actual movie that is not in the trailers or the promotional stuff. As for Spaz, maybe you've heard of this chiaroscuro black and white "crime" story set in the 40s with a reluctant protagonist who is beset upon by an oppressive urban industrial environment and a criminal organization. It's called Schindler's Goddamn List and it's soooooooo film noir. Go ask Ebert or the guy from TCM if any modern noir film, like The Man Who Wasn't There, is actually true noir. They will politely inform you that film noir is a term that was already describing something post-mortem by the time people Americans actually started using it. Even when people use the term somewhat accurately to describe something like Blade Runner or Brick, the correct term should be "neo-noir". A 2009 film about a man who turns into a werewolf set in Victorian England DOES NOT fit the description of noir, original or neo. It's a remake of a Universal Monster Movie, maybe the confusion lies in the 30s being so close to the 40s and the influence German Expressionism had on horror. For crying out loud, I decry imprecise language. Wolfman NOT NOIR. But does it ever have a chiaroscuro poster!<p> Also if we could stop misusing "epic" thx

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Poster looks cool, film looks a must!

    by CeejayNightwing

    I'm a huge Universal classic monster film fan, The Wolfman, Son of Frankenstein and House of Frankenstein being my favourites. The trailers for this have been great to wet the appetite of those who are fans of the originals and pleased to see they haven't gone the contemporary werewolf route with this remake. Simply can't wait to be entertained by this film and see Benicio do his thing! BTW the Rocketeer was greatness deserving a sequel that never materialized. Let's hope this film is a success and JJ gets to do a decent comentary for both flicks on the Blu Rays!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    WOLFMAN JACK!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Now there was a dude!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Reminds me of when I was stationed in Turkey...

    by Immortal_Fish

    ...regards to all my fellow Veterans!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    hey guys how's it going

    by bibble 3000

    nice to be back

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    also

    by bibble 3000

    this poster looks pretty good

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Looks like that mutant hairy Mexican wrestler guy

    by AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    Wonder what made him so angry?

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST

    So this is a bio about the writer of Tomb of Dracula?

    by AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    Always interested in Marvel Comics in the early 70's. De Toro as Marv Wolfman, huh? Who plays Gene Colan?

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    AsimovDiedofAIDS

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    Rock. :)

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Harry - DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT REAL MOVIES?

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    http://www.allposters.com/-st/Film-Noir-Posters_c7664_.htm<p><p>Now, HOW exactly does the poster above reflect ANYTHING THE FUCK TO DO WITH ANYTHING NOIR?

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Red Ned Lynch

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    Why are studios banking every genre thing they can find? It's simple - they have NO ideas whatsoever, and they have NO fresh concepts or any new characters to bring to the table and they've got commitments, deadlines and billion dollar mortgages.<p><p>So what's a fellow to do? Why, it's simple - you find a heretofore untapped source of TRULY CREATIVE THOUGHT that's so insignificant that it hasn't been gutted by the coroporate machine (yet), and you raid and rape and pillage it as much as you can - ALL while making the fuck sure you change just as much as you can to mask its source.<p><p>Dude, this is why you get such awful comic book movies. It's a simple reason: the people making them care fuck-all for the audience (they hate you and think you smell) and the source material (they hate it and think it's stupid). It's that kind of broad contempt for the source material that leads to the famous Peters talks regarding SUPERMAN RETURNS: "Kids, how do you like these various villain designs - as toys?" "Can we add a giant polar bear to this thing somewhere?" "What if he were half normal, half Visible Man with electric intestines?" "Can we do anything with giant robot spiders?" Those are all things Peters wanted to add to SUPERMAN RETURNS. Seriously. Oh, and the gay robot and "urban" Jimmy Olsen. Why did he want those things? BECAUSE HE HATED THE SOURCE MATERIAL, BUT KNEW THE NAME 'SUPERMAN' IS WELL KNOWN AND WANTED THE VALUE OF THE NAME WITHOUT THE REALITY OF THE PRODUCT - BECAUSE, AGAIN, HE HATED THE PRODUCT - as do NEARLY ALL Hollywood fuckwits. PEOPLE HATE COMICS. They think they're stupid and juvenile, just like the FACT that no matter how many awards shows it wins nobody over the age of 10 except genre fans is going to take seriously any show named STARGATE UNIVERSE or BATTLESTAR GALACTICA or even KYLE XY. It's too weird, too out there, too strange for them. TITS OF THE BLOOD EXPLOSION, they'll understand, albiet under a different title - that sex and violence talk won't do, but sex and violence will do just fine, as long as the sex is hetero and demeaning to wimminz.<p><p>Aside from all this, genre fans themselves are some of the ugliest, nastiest people on the face of the fucking planet. Really, have you ever stopped to think about genre conversations you've listened to? How it's all wall-to-wall fart/shit/blood/tit/puke/hatred-of-women/hatred-of-gays/Wolverine is badass 'cuz he's a real man/Punisher is badass 'cuz he's a real man/Dude-did-you-see-how-they-killed-that-one-dude? It's pure ugliness, vioelnce, adolescent retardation and just some of the dumbest non-thinking this side of a STAR TREK convention. The stereotype of the stinky fat comic fan living in the parents' basement exists because it's MOSTLY TRUE. Fuck!

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    SPAZ IS OBLIVIOUS TO HIS OWN CLUELESSNESS...

    by RedJester

    And in the future, it's extremely pompous to ask a question, and then matter-of-factly state that you're the only one who knows the answer without giving anyone a chance to respond. It's smug and it won't help sway people to your POV.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    ThusSpakeSpymunk

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Yeah, I can see that from reading your shit day in and day out

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    I'm not trying to sway anybody's opinion.

    by Spazatronik2000

    I could give a shit what you idiots think. I'm merely stating the fact that this movie is obviously influenced by film noir, as is this poster, just as the director himself stated, and for you to argue otherwise is just plain idiotic. I don't give a fuck. You're stupid.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Spymunk

    by Spazatronik2000

    http://tinyurl.com/ygtrkg7 Tell me how this composition isn't anything like the poster and I'll try not to laugh.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    I lied

    by Spazatronik2000

    I'm already laughing.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    lol!

    by Spazatronik2000

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Ummmmm ...

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    They're kinda TOTALLY not even close to the same thing?

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    lol!

    by Spazatronik2000

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    Hey Spaz

    by Gwai Lo

    Found some more cool film noir posters for you. <p> http://tinyurl.com/yfkdune<p> http://tinyurl.com/56o8jd<p> http://tinyurl.com/dmjv9m

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    nice

    by Spazatronik2000

    The Xmen one(obviously it's in color) has a dense, repetetive, structured composition. It's heavily stylized, ya there's high contrast but it's overexposed and artificial. I don't know, it's just modern digital art. It's a little poppish. Maybe even symbolic with all the eyes of the good xmen on top and the bad guys on the bottom. Not really noir. O.K. let's see, Spock. Black and white, check, light and shadows a dominant part of the composition, check. It doooooes have a sepia tone overlay, so not technically black and white. Again we're drifting into modern digital here. The composition of his face looking forward is also contemporary. There's also no emotion. It's Spock. Noir often exhibits a brooding, maybe menacing emotion, no? Like maybe a growling werewolf? This poster leaves me cold. Harry Potter. Wow there's rim lighting. And a very busy, digital, colorful composition/design which doesn't evoke noir in any way at all. The shadows above his neck are filled with colorful snow. Not sure where you're going with on this one. Obviously the Wolfman poster is vastly more faithful to classic film noir. Since it's almost entirely black and white and the digital artist was restrained, yeah his eyes have some color and the font is stylized but overall it has a classical feel.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    I don't know what my favorite film poster is

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I like so many - Superman The Movie, Empire Strikes Back, Star Trek IV,

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Spaz, you're right -

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    What was I thinking? The WEREWOLF poster looks -exactly- like the poster for THE 3RD MAN.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST

    you mean this 3rd man?

    by Spazatronik2000

    http://tinyurl.com/ykywpra

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Meh... will still watch the Winter Olympics opening ceremony ins

    by GreatWhiteNoise

    ...and wait for the DVD.

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 11:42 p.m. CST

    tead

    by GreatWhiteNoise

  • Nov. 7, 2009, 11:49 p.m. CST

    how about this one?

    by Spazatronik2000

    http://tinyurl.com/yl9emzv or this:http://tinyurl.com/yf26n4y and:http://tinyurl.com/yf8fmz5 and:http://tinyurl.com/ygsomyo andhttp://tinyurl.com/yz95h7r http://tinyurl.com/ykt8old somewhat simple, stark, dynamic, black and white, moody compositions. Yep.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 12:12 a.m. CST

    I repeat ..

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    WOLFMAN's poster looks JUST like the poster for THE 3RD MAN!

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    And I'm still very puzzled as to what your point is.

    by Spazatronik2000

    Harry said that is was "very film noir." I'm pretty sure he didn't say that it's "very film noir poster-like." The films were in black and white, but the graphical style of the posters had color print and a different aesthetic, so what? How well would a poster like that go over on today's audience? It looks ugly. Personally I like this FILM noir style poster.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 12:22 a.m. CST

    lol I thought you were being sarcastic

    by Spazatronik2000

    since the posters were already brought up. Were you? Oh my bad the first 3rd man poster I saw was in color haha. Dee dee dee

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST

    this one http://tinyurl.com/yffm9qs

    by Spazatronik2000

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 1:09 a.m. CST

    ehhhhhh

    by Series7

    Still on the fence about this. Looks better then Shitter Island however. Poor Elias Koteas having to waste his talents in that.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    I think both this and Shutter Island both look fantastic,

    by RedJester

    but that's just me.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Noir is the wrong term to use.

    by Floyd_Dylan

    The style of trailer and poster are gothic, both are stylising characteristics that have gloom, the grotesque, and the supernatural.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 1:33 a.m. CST

    That's pretty cool.

    by KarlKolchak

    I just don't know if I can buy Del Toro as an English dude.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 4:21 a.m. CST

    It's funny...

    by MajorFrontbum

    ...the more that technology improves, the worse films become. Films look really great now, but are so poorly scripted and the narratives are all so clichéd and predictable - nobody seems to be bringing anything new to the table, it's all about remakes and bullshit.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 8:47 a.m. CST

    LOST CHAPLIN FILM FOUND!

    by blakindigo

    http://tinyurl.com/y9x773p

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Eh, I kid, but it's an okay poster

    by AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    Just wish Del Toro (or his CG rendering) had his clawed hands held up in front of him like in the old Lon Chaney Jr publicity shots. Give Harry a break on his "noir" comments. HE was just talking about the black-and-white and the lighting. Sure it's not a "noir poster" but I get the gyst.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    i suspect

    by doom master

    the Wolfman, now being less interesting by the recent news of Danny Elfman's departure from doing to score, will become like The 1994 Frankenstein film.... I hope this doesnt fail. Ive already seen enough wolfman movies after NIcholson's wolf....

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Spaz, simple point - this Poster isn't Noir

    by Continentalop

    Why? Does it share visual elements with classical noir? Yes (high contrast, black and white). But so do a lot of things - german expressionism for example, or even Westerns like the Ox Bow incident. But overall, the image is far from being "noir". <P> You've shown some other visuals, what do those images all portray? A forbidding sense of danger caused by some sort of temptation or personal failing. Does THE WOLFMAN share any of those other traits? Do you see a femme fatale? Do you see any sort of surroundings to imply the temptations of the city? Or the dangers of being involved in a crime? ? Or someone selling out their soul (not losing it, selling it out)? Do you feel any hint of this film having any noir themes? Nope, this is CLASSIC HORROR IMAGERY. It is implying the beast within, NOT the personal compromise or the idea of the corrupting influences of greed or personal ambition. <P> Noir isn't just a check list of imagery, B&W and High Contrast, it is the emotions those images put on us. The best noirs are cautionary tales of greed and desire, the Wolfman doesn't suffer from his fate because of greed or desire, he just gets cursed for no fault of his own. <P> And THE WOLFMAN isn't noir. I already asked Eddie Muller, the Czar of Noir that, and he said no. Doesn't have the greed or desire component. So maybe you should quit talking while you are ahead.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Talkbacks & Message boards

    by ChezKing

    95% of talk backs and message boards nowadays are filled with negative comments. It's all the same everywhere on the net. It's constant extreme, ignorant, negative criticism. It's gotten to the point where it's all a big blur of stupidity, and filmakers, writers and other creative people in the entertainment industry are simply avoiding them. Because there's simply nothing to be gained from them. In the end...this is what you all have to say...NOTHING.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    ChezKing–I'm happy for you; I'mma let you finish—!

    by blakindigo

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    A photo! With text on it!

    by daggor

    Exclusive poster! What is this, Facebook?

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    haha

    by Spazatronik2000

    it never ends. Pompous, arogant, full of themselves film snobs just love to spew diarhea all over these talkbacks. Continentalop, no I won't "shut up while I'm ahead" I'm going to come back in here and call you out for what you are, a pretentious twat. The director said the film was influenced by film noir. Would the headline be more acurate if Harry said that it was "influenced by film noir" instead of using the term "very" which implies it is very much so and shares all qualities of classic film noir movies? Yeah. That would be more accurate. So I'll just say that this poster is INFLUENCED by film noir movies, which I knew all along, it's not like your telling me anything I already didn't know jackass. So fuck off.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Chez/Continue

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    Hey, guys. Thanks for saying what I tried to say, in better fashion. This poster has nothing to do with noir at all. Oh, and Spaz? Great to know that anything black and white and high-contrast is influenced by noir movies. I'll make sure to pocket that bit of wisdom for later. Go noirfuck yourself. See? That remark was influenced by noir.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    the director said himself he was influenced by film noir

    by Spazatronik2000

    dumbfuck. I swear. The ego in here. I bitch slapped you little twats silly and you're little boy ego keeps delluding yourself trying to believe otherwise. Yawn. Childish little faggots.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    film moir - means it's dated

    by lockesbrokenleg

    and probably filmed for 4 dollars.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Werewolf - Do not Fuck with MEEEE!

    by Miguel De Barioz

    I can not believe how you fucking yankees treat everything so lightly. Werewolfs are the most diabolic of all the creatures we have. <p> My Uncle Gozales was a good man - he had six children and a wife who worked through all six births in the local bordello. He was such a good man he paid for a young senorita to come to the home and help. Then one day they jus disappear - gone. My Papa says that fucking werewolf has eaten his brother and eaten the poor senorita too. Now his poor wife brings up the children herself.<p> Do you think this is right to make films about werewolfs! What next Vampiros?!

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Film Noir?

    by Miguel De Barioz

    We have just gotten a bluRay video tape now we have to buy FilMoir videotapes too! Wankeros Americanos.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    SURE THING MIGUEL!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Keep making our tennis shoes.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Better to be a "pretentious twat"...

    by Continentalop

    ...Than an ignorant fuckhead who is to stupid to realize he is wrong. The director says the movie "was influenced by noir." Well maybe the MOVIE is, but WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NOIR IN THAT IN THE ONE SHEET? Oh, "B&W and High contrast, must be film noir." That is just a knee jerk reaction to a term that has become generic. Let's count what makes this (or in this case, does not make this) a "noir": 1) What other visual noir elements are in this One Sheet? Extreme high and low angles? No. Use of a wide lens to create a distorted feel? No (or at least we can't tell from this image). A enclosed frame or objects in the foreground to obscure the subject? No. Hell, it might be two-point lighting but we can't tell because it is just an eye and half-a-face in shadows (oh, face in shadows? Must be noir!). <P> 2) Ok, how about classic noir imagery or motifs: Femme fatale? Nope. Smoke? Nope. A city scape in the bg or the suggestion of a crime? Nadda. None of the classic noir motifs are present in this poster at all. <P> 3) How about any of the common themes or stories? Any sign of cops, guns, hint of a crime story or a crime of passion? Nope. JUST A FUCKING CLOSE UP OF AN EYE ON A HAIRY FACE! (ooh, it is a remake of KISS ME DEADLY or DOUBLE INDEMNITY!). <P> Now in closing, this one sheet has only 2 visual elements usually associated with noir, and is missing ABOUT A FUCKING DOZEN OTHERS! It is like saying something shot on hand held camera must be cinema verite. Not even close. <P> You should have quit while you were ahead, dipshit. All you did was prove how you don't even know what you are fucking talking about.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Danny Elfman

    by MacReady452

    I don't really care that he is not doing this. In fact I am happy he isn't. Honestly, his shit all sounds the same. I have loved it in the past but I'm worn out. It is immediately recognizable. I want a much darker tone than an Elfman score would provide. Picture this...you sit down in the theater and the lights go down. The Wolfman title comes across the screen and the music begins. Familiarity creeps into your mind and you say to yourself, "Sounds like the Simpsons." Mood and movie ruined.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Brick is noir

    by MacReady452

    has none of what is being described in relation to this poster.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Winter Olympics... What a scam

    by AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    The Winter Olympics have nothing to do with sports. They're NOT fucking sports (except hockey)! They're "fun things to do in cold weather." But "sports"? Uh... "brooming ice in front of a heavy rock to make it slide"? Sorry. NOT sports! And ease up on Harry. Dude never claimed to be a film historian. He's just some schlub got run over by a shopping cart full of comic books or some shit, had some spare time, started a website whilst bedridden, and lucked out with it. Gotta admit, I get jealous of the guy too, though.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    This poster sucks btw.

    by MacReady452

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    by MacReady452

    Herschel Walker was in the '92 winter Olympics for bobsled so it has to do with sports. That is the only way it relates to real sports. In the same way that Dancing with the Stars has to do with sports cause Rice, Smith, and Irvin were on it.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    MacReady452

    by AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    Hey so maybe former House Majority Leader Tom Delay can push a sled, too!

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Krupa in a bikini with hard nips

    by MacReady452

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Bland Poster....and

    by brattyben

    another misuse of the term 'noir'. Noir doesn't just pertain to an image. It's more a mood. An often overused word.

  • Nov. 8, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST

    AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    by lockesbrokenleg

    What planet are you from? The Olympics are the BEST sports players in the world competing. Sure, they're not the usual NFL douchebag that goes for 50 yards and then kicks a field goal.

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 3:47 a.m. CST

    My Vote for the Score either Elliot Goldenthal

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    or keep it as a spiritual brother and hire the man who created my favorite ever soundtrack Bram Stokers Draculs Wojciech Kilar

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 4:27 a.m. CST

    One of the best posters out in a while

    by Spazatronik2000

    True story. I'm lovin' it. ;)

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Spazatronik2000

    I didn't read your post btw. Well, I read the first sentence, then decided to protect my brain from further damage from the toxic sewage. *yawn*

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    So in Spawn 2 he's a Wolfman?

    by Series7

    Didn't even realize they were making a sequel? <P> http://tinyurl.com/yh4tbuo

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Also Elfman not doing this score?

    by Series7

    Fuck it, I'm good with that. Put a fork in him. Along with Burton, he's creativly dead now. His Hellboy 2 score was the best thing he's done in ages and it was ok.

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Series7

    Your last post was very noir!

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Sure you didn't Spaz

    by Continentalop

    It is just better to pretend you didn't read it than come up with a counter argument - which you can't. Nice to see someone so pathetic here that he has to bury his head in the sand and deny that he is wrong... One word for you Spaz: FAIL.

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Seriously!!! ITS THE FUCKING SPAWN POSTER!!

    by Series7

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    At least it's not a W or some shit like that.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    WTF? Dude looks like a yak.

    by historylight

    Which moreoreless covers it, but Shee-it there is NOTHING, and yeah i mean NOOOOOTHING in that poster that even remotely screams (or indeed whispers) Wolfman over and above domesticated bovine livestock. "Oh, there's no Wolfman." we whined about the last poster. Go fun yourself through the back door, at least it didn't look like a picture of a cow. Which this POS does. Peas and, indeed, rice.

  • Nov. 9, 2009, 11:42 p.m. CST

    It looks like a hairy vagina w/ an eye in it.

    by kirttrik

    I'm not saying I wouldn't hit that shit. I'm like any hetero dude, I'd hit it, FUCK IT, eyes, warts, whatever.

  • Nov. 10, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Is there anything in geekdom that's NOT film noir?

    by Snookeroo

    Or an homage to pulp?<br><br>Really, fanboys need to find something new and quit living in the early part of the last century.

  • Nov. 11, 2009, 4:30 a.m. CST

    I was looking forward to this

    by Drsambeckett1984

    The first trailer really captured the old black and white horror movie, but the second trailer really put me off with its hyper editing. Might wait for DVD.

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