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Hercules Has Seen Tonight’s First FRINGE Since Oct. 15, And Harbors Suspicion It May Have Broken A Big Series Rule!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
FRINGE 2.6 FAQ
What’s it called?
“Earthling.”
Who’s Responsible?
Teleplay is credited to J.H. Wyman ("Keen Eddie") & Jeff Vlaming ("Battlestar Galactica").
What says Fox?
“Directed by Emmy Award winner Jon Cassar (24), this episode follows the Fringe Division as they take on a puzzling investigation where victims are inexplicably disintegrating into ash. The shadowy case casts light on Special Agent Phillip Broyles' past and leads the team to the possibility of foreign Fringe Science. Emotions run high as the alarming events stack up and revealing personal details emerge about the leader of the Fringe Division. Guest Cast: Ravil Isyanov as Tomas; JR Bourne as Mystery Man; Gerard Plunkett as Senator Van Horn; Yaroslav Poverlo as Tomas' Brother; Joe Towne as Randy Dancik; Michelle Harrison as Natalie.”
Broyles’ past? Do we learn that he and the cyborg Nina Sharp boned and/or are boning?
No.
Do we get to see Nina naked?
Tonight’s episode is wholly Nina-free.
Is Leonard Nimoy back as the sinister William Bell?
Not this week.
Is this the one with the flock of bald, mind-reading Observers?
No.
What’s the bowling guy, Sam Weiss, up to this week?
Sam is not lurking about this week. (I think for the first time since 2.1.)
What else is Fox not telling us?
Tomas’ brother has a profession that does not technically exist in the United States. And we learn there’s more than a little Jack Bauer in the boss of Fringe Division.
The big news?
I’m pretty sure the “Fringe” creators and showrunner told me at Comic Con last July that we wouldn’t be seeing extraterrestrials on "Fringe." I'll leave it to the post-show talkback to decide if they've stuck to that rule.
What lies beyond tonight's installment?
2.7 "Of Human Action" (Nov. 12) The Fringe Division investigates an unusual kidnapping with connections to Massive Dynamic.
2.8 "August" (Nov. 19) The Fringe team closes in on the mysterious Observer after they investigate a bizarre abduction case in Boston.
How does it end, spoiler-boy?
A CIA agent glances heavenward.
9 p.m. Thursday. Fox.
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Yahhhh
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Fantastic series, really enjoying this
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Herc, surprised in a good/bad way?
Just please let there be more mythology rather than "Wierd science of the week"
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Does NOT come on tonight!!
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it DOES come on tonight. oops.
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Already done terribly in XFiles. Please keep fringe man-made.
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lesson: they may have changed their minds.
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Maybe I can set the timer manually...
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How???
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It's not like writers have never lied at a convention before.
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just looked like an uninspired X Files rip off.
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Now it's something more akin to "The Talisman." The central mythology involves inter-dimensional warfare. It does, however, steal the shape-shifting supersoldiers, the hot FBI agent with trust issues, the one-armed quisling, and the gruff, bald boss who may be in bed with the bad guys.
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maybe because they offed Charlie in such a gimmicky way, maybe because its now SO obviously made in Vancouver (all the bit-part actors from X files, Stargate, BSG are popping up), maybe because the whole storyline from last season (ZFT anyone?) has been dropped. I don't know, apart from the first one and the one where FakeCharlie died, the rest have all been pretty average. A focus on Broyles and the awesome Lance Reddick should be good though.
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His character's yoda act might be predictable but he's still helped the show a lot. He's done more to humanize Torv's character than anything else. I've found the last 2 or 3 episodes pleasantly watchable, a step up from dreck.
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Maybe they're from yet another parallel Earth where tech is FAR more advanced than that of either regular Earth or Earth-Nimoy.
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and he said that Peter was Walter's clone, Olivia is Bell's biological daughter and the Observer belongs to an alien race that is keeping tabs on both universes.
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This show seems to have wiped a lot of season 1 off the map. No mention of ZFT or the manifesto, right? No mention of WHY the odd occurrences are happening, ostensibly revealed last season as a coordinated effort to weaken the barrier between the 2 worlds in the New England area specifically. Now it seems like the characters have amnesia about these two plot points. Will this be like LOST and X-Files and prior revelations are always swept aside as meaningless by whatever new, shiny revelation they came up with this week? God, I hope not. Season 1 rocked.
PLEASE TEAM ABRAMS, KEEP IT COHESIVE THIS TIME!
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Um, what?! Why is that of any importance? Who the fuck wants to see THAT naked anyway?
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remember?
wtf is "attack of the show"? -
Love the return of the Q&A format. Keep it up.
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Is an awesome variety type show on G4, that is broadcast live every night at 7 I think. It's like a nerd variety show, like watching Leno ro Conan but actually full of awesome videos and tech products and reviews and stuff. It's just a tech/videogame/movie pop culture show where they talk about everyting going on on the internet and with new products etc. It's actually weird it isnt more popular because it is so on the pulse of whats going on, unlike every network show, which is constantly trying to stay hip with the times. Attack of the Show really does rule. It's funny informative and enteratining
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because that made little sense, its basically the show that discusses all of the things a person who comes to this website actually cares about and finds funny or cool.
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Nov 05, 2009 9:59:00 AM CST
Still not sure if they are lazy writers or a lot of Easter Eggs
by rob0729
The show has far too many inconsistencies with reality (use of mercury themometers eventhough they are illegal, land locked towns with seaports, having Peter and Olivia drive back and forth from Boston to PA multiple times in a week as if it was an hour drive). I'm still wondering if they are throwing in Easter eggs as clues that this might not be our dimension or are they just lazy. I am leaning towards lazy after the scene where the shapeshifter killed Charlie, took his identity, changed clothes with him and hid him in what looked to be a matter of seconds.
If it is actually setting up a big reveal like it being a different universe, I will applaud the producers and showrunner. If it just turns out to be lazy writing and it continues, this show will lose me. -
call him Rocky, and kept calling him Goon. Goon, Goon, Goon. It's because he's stupid, he's stupid. And they were spanning time together, spanning time. And if Olivia would've just completed her training, they would've been bestfriends, for ever. But she called him Goon, so he left. She also didn't like the box of raisins her sent her.
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Good synopsis of AotS. And kudos for not mentioning geek droolbot, Olivia Munn.
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Peter playing the role of Helen and "OUR" Walter being Paris. My thoughts are that this whole war is just one big battle between two Walters over a stolen son. My friend the other day was commenting on the fact that "our" Walter seemed to get really innocent and more childlike as the series went on. I think this is because we're going to see a very ruthless, and VERY pissed off mad scientist Walter in the coming seasons. Take into account the fact the Observers interests in Walter and the fact that the other side is keeping very close tabs on him and Peter.
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Matt Weiner did EXACTLY what he said he was going to do with JFK on Mad Men so I fai lto see your point.
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Best show on tv right now by a mile.
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I appreciate that.
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Painful to watch. Both hosts think they are attractive and funny. I would watch every now & then for geek news, but when the douche male host proudly mangled the pronunciation of "Quantum of Solace," I bailed for good. They aren't geeks like us. I see mentions of female host Olivia Munn whenever she puts on a bikini or slave Leia outfit or something. It's desperate and sad.
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Has been doing this whole interdimensional war story, and far better I might add, for the past 4 or 5 years...
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I made all that up, buddy. Gotcha!
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You are right, they aren't geeks like us. They are good looking moderately talented TV personalities who have social skills and a positive attitude. Now I can agree with people who say AOTS has some dumb segments that are trying to hard to appeal to virgins, but rest of the show is fun and up to date with geek culture. Maybe not for the hardcore-est of geeks, but nobody really cares about you losers anyways.
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So, not only are the hosts not geeks, but they're not cool either.
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There's a baseball game that runs from 7:30-10:30 eastern... my verizon channel lineup says Simpsons and TMZ are on after the game. So are only West Coasters getting this new ep? How in the hell could that be true. Same deal seems to be in place for next week.
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The show is fun enough, but the inconsistencies pull you out of the show. The dream stealer who "siphons off dreams" so that people don't have them (the crux of the episode) is shown stealing dreams as people are having them. Or last season; the young Observer who is 70 but looks 10 because he lived in a "low oxygen, low light" environment (huh?) was alone in the dark all that time but learned to write English backwards and, as an "empath" who can "feel your emotions", he was able to use those "emotions" to get specific information (addresses, etc.) about a serial killer. I've never felt 394 Euclid Ave.
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I assume that was if the World Series went to Game 7. It didn't. It ended last night.
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Nowhere near as topical, edgy and clever as it likes to think it is and generally pandering to its audience. When the only real draw is watching Olivia Munn wear a costume that doesn't come close to accurately representing the character she's supposed to be portraying, you know there's a more effective use of your time.
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Then Fringe is a 6. Which isn't bad. I'd still do a 6.
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"spanning time together". Yes, the bowling alley guy was Gallo's friend on the phone, always in his underwear and sleeping.
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if Olivia Munn thinks she is attractive, she might be on the money there. I still think Yvonne Strahovski fills out Princess Leia's slave girl outfit better, but Munn is pretty hot.
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They've got just about equivalent onscreen charisma.
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Thankfully someone else reads Ex Machina! I thought for the longest time, I was the only person giving Brian K Vaughan my $3! I love that comic, and yes, the interdimensional warfare plot is great.
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that fact should turn geeks off
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what is a mudshark?
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so not only has animas been dumped he is also a bigot and/or racist
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Nov 05, 2009 12:01:04 PM CST
g4 & attack of the show suck! tech tv was superior in every way
by s-mart shopper
g4 is just cashing in on the adhd generation
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First, it is 2009 and I thought we moved passed all that racist shit.
Second, it isn't like you had a shot at her anyway. -
I didn't have to watch it on our cable box in the living room... I have Brighthouse in central Florida, and it's not one of the channels that comes in on the normal cable line (only through the cable box). Bummer. It's better than a lot of crap on TV, but that's not saying much. G4 really went down the tubes though, and I stopped watching it after I had seen every episode of Ninja Warrior (Sasuke).As for Olivia Munn, I would definitely put her on my staff. Many times each day.
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... I do feel like some of this is an X-Files retread. Should I expect a Tony Shaloub cameo? This sounds very much like "Soft Light" from XF Season 2
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Why? Because we have a half white President in office? I guess you haven't been paying that close attention. We just had a fucking judge in Louisiana deny a marriage license to an interracial couple "for the kids."
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a week or so ago, and when she decided in mid interview she'd rather continue her rambling with Artie instead of Jimmy, I fell for her a little. And yes EVERY show would be better with Artie Lange. What a bull in a china shop.
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...is basically like The Disney Channel for pubescent video-game nerds.
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that's a pretty apt description. why geek boys are climbing over each other for her is beyond me. Whoop-dee-doo, she dresses as Slave Leia or Wonder Woman. Chicks already do that at comic conventions and they are a lot hotter. WHO GIVES A SHIT, WHO GIVES A FUCK.
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it better start getting good, I was riveted by the 1st season, but this one is starting to lose me... and that 2 week break didn't help. And is it me or is their less Walter? It's almost like he's been reduced to a background character solely to provide punchlines. The Walter/Peter dynamic was/is the best thing about the show.
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Is the lead chick character on Fringe named as a homage to Olivia Munn? lol
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As I write this, my Time Warner cable guide still lists MLB. Even though I have it set to record all eps of Fringe, it won't if it's not listed in the guide.
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does have a mildly annoying personality that tends to pop out at times, but hell, Id still fuck her. BTW, I actually got to meet her at comic-con, and Ill tell you, shes a hell of alot more attractive in person. (I have absolutely no idea where the hell the apostrophes are on my phone...)
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The one with the accent? Yeah, she looks like a lot of fun in the bedroom too. But holy hell, the few times I've seen her fill in for Munn as co-host have been a disaster. Entertaining, laughable, but a disaster nonetheless.
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about JFK?
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through her messed up English teeth. No, seriously she is cute, Austin Powers' smile and all.
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"But my TiVo says there is a baseball game on FOX tonight!?!?! A-Dar!" It's called the World Series. It's best of seven. There was a game scheduled, but the series ended the other night. You may have heard about this team called the Yankees winning. I'm a huge fucking nerd, and I hate baseball, but even I am enough of a functioning member of a society to know when someone wins the World Series, and to figure out why there might not, in fact, be a a baseball game tonight. Wow.
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until I rebooted it.. try that
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LOL.
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No, Layla Kayleigh has since moved on from G4, and is now hosting some poker show on Spike or Versus... one of the two. Check out her imdb page if you want to see more of her. Speaking of hot feed girls, Allison Hayslip is starting to look pretty hot in an Allison Mack nerdy girl sort of way.
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is there anyone here besides herc who wants to see nina sharp naked? no? didn't think so.
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Nov 05, 2009 2:55:02 PM CST
LAYLA KAYLEIGH AND KRISTIN HOLT CAN SWALLOW MY COCK
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
DEAR GOD I WANT IT TO HAPPEN
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I also dig Olivia Munn she just seems down to Earth and cool. I know G4 is going down hill so make her do crazy things and wear costumes but oh well. I love Fringe and this season is great so far.
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And he wants to make a Angel sandwich with Boreanaz, Josh Whedon and himself.
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He's the only reason I even bothered coming back for a second season. They need to start making more use of him. That, or get the Astrid chick naked and pole-dancing. Because the rest of the show still feels mostly like X-Files leftovers. (Granted, we're talking the better seasons of X-Files, not that lame-assed dogshit last few seasons. But still.)
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There were some good episodes in that last year. "Sooopa Soljas!"
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Every Fringe talkback ,I see the same old shit written here like " This show better start getting better etc "
Well, if its so bad, quit fucking watching it week after week , then coming on here to cry about it like little girls.
Just don't watch it, if its that much of a burden for you, you poor dears.
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Isn't the Observer an alien? I don't see what else he could be since the people from the other dimension are just like us.Also, what's this trend lately of aliens coming from another dimension rather than space? Is this what the crystal skull contributed to pop culture? I guess space isn't mysterious enough anymore.
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I'm not sure about the alien stuff though, unless they are calling the people from earth2 aliens?
Or maybe it's one of those stand-alone episodes (that I hate) that does something with aliens and just leave it open so they can return to it later on if they want. -
OH LOTS OF ALIENS, HERC, THE WHOLE 3RD SEASON EVERYONE IS AN ALIEN IT IS HILARIOUS SO I WILL JUST RUIN IT NOW
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I had already rebooted the box earlier for other issues, but that did not change the listings. As of now, I have a recording set for MLB from 8-9:00.
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Jeff Vlaming is a fabulous genre writer, so I hope (and bet!) this episode kicks ass. I actually hope they keep Vlaming on as a series writer so "Fringe" can recover from casting Anna Torv as a lead.
Could be good. -
that bald "2x4" Broyles, and kept Charlie.
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hammy "actress" and getting fatter by the day.
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I happen to find her attractive and the fact that she's really Ausie means she has to act an american accent. I don't find her acting all that bad. How's your wasteline? By the way you're still wrong about Comcast's number of HD channels. Everything in the 700's and 800's and that's not counting On Demand.
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Ok I stand corrected you were talking about someone else other than Torv.
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Originally posted by pumaman : "Every Fringe talkback ,I see the same old shit written here "
That's because they really don't care about what the show does one way or the other. It's all about trying to appear clever and getting noticed. In other words " A Troll ". -
from Doom Patrol
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Trainor's career as a superhero begins when he is accidentally exposed to a radioactive field in the atmosphere while piloting a test plane. This experience leaves him radioactive himself, but also gives him a strange superpower: the ability to release a negatively-charged energy being from his body
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I rarely catch him in the act
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Dude knows his video games. hes a geek like us. The Skits they do, do in fact suck hard and the host of Web Soup is by far the funniest guy they have. But c'mon, Munn is smoking hot not one of you wouldn't fuck her if you had the chance. The dude that hates that she dates blacks clearly has issues with his size. Dating Hot Geek women is great, my girlfriend is hot and nuts for Buffy and Lost and Fringe so I'm a pretty fucking happy guy.
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...the whole episode seemed (to me) to simply be a cross between the 'Global Frequency' pilot and (as others have written) parts of DC's 'Doom Patrol'. Just my two cents.
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I liked the whole russian fringe thing and reddick is just awesome.
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but people still watch.
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In this case, Alien of the week. There have been few that work on this show. I think it is because there is too much science behind every monster that it takes too much time of the episode yet doesn't help the overall storyline of the series.
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Solid episode tonight. Always great to see character development.
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Will someone please contact the writers of fringe and let them know that the line 'this doesn't make any sense' must not be used in the show anymore. EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON THIS SHOW MAKES NO SENSE!The only thing worse is Trent Dilfer's obsession with the word 'dime' when he's breaking down highlight reel passes... for cryin out loud, dilfer, CHANGE IT UP... I'd rather hear something simple like 'a perfect throw,' 'deep bomb' and i can live with 'threading the needle' but Dilfer uses the word 'dime' like 6 times a day... although i don't know why i bother saying this, as i don't think many talkbackers on this site watch NFL Live and NFL Primetime based on the kind of person who visits this site.
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He's on the right-hand side of the screen while Broyles is talking to Olivia on the phone at the airport. Wearing his hat.
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Nothing makes sense anymore WTF!
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Did they explain Broil's history with the case and I was in the bathroom or what?
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Fascinating. A poor start to what could be a nice sub-arc. Still, very fascinating.
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This was the unsolved case that cost him his marriage four years ago.
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Was expecting more than a broken marriage. The stand alones are really weak.
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Is that line Fringe's own "The Truth Is Out There"?
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She's not that attractive, is annoying as hell, and obviously only talks to fat geek losers because it's the only career she has. Her only appeal is the fact she looks like there's a pretty good chance she'd let you anal her and then blast on her face if you could give her a role.
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The Observer has been in every episode of the series.
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What was it you didn't understand? Tell us and we'll explain it for you really slowly.
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Who's next week's monster? A racecar driver whose brain is placed in a robot body following a deadly crash?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_Man
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You need to return to the main arc pronto! Being on gone for several weeks and returning with a milktoast epeisode isn't going to put this show on top. It wasn't that I didn't like the episode it was just not enough like the stand alo0ne episodes from season one where you felt something building. If Orci and Co. are busy then find a good writer ( one that knows comedy as well as drama ) and start building momentum again.
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is that last season there was kind of a sense that all of the abnormal incidents the Fringe division investigated were somehow connected, even the non-mythological episodes. They need to return to that formula and fast. Not add Space Ghost arbitrarily into the mix.
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Probably its strongest episode. It started fucking with the perceived future and now I don't know what to expect. Very interesting. It also put Fiennes off the focus which is a good thing since he's a terrible actor.
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What I do mind is an hour of boring tv. I love Fringe, but last night was the equivalent of the first season episodes where the computers were melting peoples brains or something. Just really boring, unintelligent, non-mythology nonsense. I really didn't like last nights episode. This show loses MASSIVE amounts of enjoyment and momentum when they don't push the real story at all. It sucks.
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from the first 2 episodes? She was building towards being a recurring?
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But, now that you mention it the episode could have used a dose of her hotness.
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Totally uncool, dude! Of course, he can just make more, but still. You don't mess with a man's LSD.
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and i see in the preview next week is a rip-off of 'pusher' from the x-files. well done fringe writers.
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The whole Tony shapeshifter thing was horrible. First...where did Tony's body come from? Shapeshifter + Tony = 2 bodies. The shapeshifter's lady body + tony's naked body + New Tony = 3.
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I was so disappointed by that episode that I put in a DVD 15 minutes before it ended. I agree with some of the TBers here who have mentioned that it seems like a lot of the plots they brought up last year have been dropped. I'm just holding out for that Observer episode in a few weeks. I'm getting too old to waste my time on half-assed "weird murders" episodes. I want the ZFT, the Observer, the alternate dimensions, the weird dudes trying to fight the war alone. C'mon yous guys! You made some fun ideas last season and you've barely played with them at all this year. I know I'm not going to see Angry Earth 2 Walter until the season's end, but throw this viewer some bones.
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The lead actress. What a sweet babe. The rest is just like the rest of the work from Bob The Orci, Klutzman and the Jar Jar: shit.
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I can forgive a lot of the bullshit on Fringe, but I absolutely hate that old canard of how we only use 10% of our brains. Not only is that bullshit, but we've known its bullshit for years and years. It's like having a scifi show talk about how there's only 4 elements, Earth Wind Fire and Water. It's ancient, it's wrong, and to have it re-used in the 21st century is retarded.
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Or it'll go down in flames, and there will be fuck all else to moan about on a Thursday night.
It'll pick up speed again , I have faith. -
V'Shael, i've read alot of your talkback posts and ocnsider you a pretty level headed talkbacker, but using a real life myth in a show isn't much different than using all the other outlandish ideas that are not real life myths.And to others--i don't see fringe getting itself all messed up continuity wise... they're planting a ton of seeds... its far to early to get down on a show that MIGHT turn into a show like Heroes has become--a jumbled mess of plot points that contradict each other, or plot points that are set up and then the writers just forget about them entirely... and lost has planted about a million seeds but people have kept watching and loving it for like five years now.
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Yes by all means stay with the show! Fringe is the best thing on right now and I'd hate to see it fold! However don't let it get like so many shows where the creator watches over it for a year and then lets it run on it's own. That seems to be the death of a lot of shows! Fringe is too good for that! The brain dead time slot ( if you want the show to succeed ) by Fox is bad enough! Return to what made this show special! I don't know maybe JJ is taking on too much! Note to JJ make sure two things work " Fringe " and " Star Trek ". They're the best things you have!
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Perhaps when asked what happened to the guy, and the agent looks up at the sky, he merely means that all they could do was return him to space so the organism could detach? I'll admit though that the use of 'organism' seems like a way of getting around the issue of any potential priomise breaking about ETs - but not a very good one. But personally I don't see the issue about aliens in this, it's not like it suddenly makes the whole show far-fetched!
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You want to claim that some formula has given a guy psychic powers? Fine. Telekinesis? Fine. Biofeedback? Fine. Use whatever bullshit unproveable rationale for the powers.
But DON'T take something we know to be false, and leapfrog from that. That's my problem.
If Trek wants to claim Dilithium crystals are 4 dimensional crystals stable across time and that's why they can used in matter/antimatter reactions without being destroyed... I'll go "Okay". If they said "We're breaking down the elements into Air Fire Water and Earth, their constituent parts..." I'd have to say Fuck off.
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Nov 09, 2009 10:00:23 AM CST
Fantastic first season... but WTF happened after the first one?
by sackratte
The second season is very weak. I can't understand why they are not able to go on with things like they did in the first season. The second season sucks so far. They concentrated on all the WRONG things and not the great stuff from season 1.
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