Nov. 4, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST
by Bob Loblaw Law Blog
I can't wait to see this. Nice interview, Harry.
Nov. 4, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST
by Bob Loblaw Law Blog
discussion. Cuz it's not an interview. Still good stuff.
Nov. 4, 2009, 2:37 a.m. CST
That's a long discussion - how did you remember all that in such fine detail to be able to write it down?!
Nov. 4, 2009, 2:54 a.m. CST
Photographic memory, thanks to this awesome Sony device I have that can record 18 hours of audio at CD quality yet fits in your shirt pocket and picks up everything.
Nov. 4, 2009, 3:07 a.m. CST
Too much Harry. Still, Baker's awesome and I'll take what I can get. <p> You think you can get around to correcting the typos?
Nov. 4, 2009, 3:15 a.m. CST
I've never seen a decent transformation sequence... Wonder if it should simply be quicker or perhaps more gradual...
Nov. 4, 2009, 3:18 a.m. CST
This stuff just fascinates me!! The creativity and talent...WOW!! I live vicariously through you Harry. Thanks! :)
Nov. 4, 2009, 3:33 a.m. CST
Have you not seen Rick's work in An American Werewolf in London?? Check out the link, sir: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbeEvTtB7ts
Nov. 4, 2009, 3:33 a.m. CST
by xavier masterson
,everything you have planned to do in the near future, and immediately start work immediately on creating The Ackerman Archives. The world will be a better place for it.
Nov. 4, 2009, 3:48 a.m. CST
That's certainly the best out there thus far. The facial sequence is great (the feet work too), but there are some awkward bits in there as well, ones that take me out of the film (the hands look hokey along with the shot of him on his back).... I still think we've yet to see the definitive transformation sequence.
Nov. 4, 2009, 3:51 a.m. CST
Damn! that's a lot of scrolling down one needs to do to in between Rick Baker's remarks... ....serious, that's what people are interested in, not all the other stuff.
Nov. 4, 2009, 4:06 a.m. CST
Now that was a lot of fun to read. I'm always fascinated when a conversation turns to how people working in the industry have no clue who Vincent Price is. I got to spend several hours at Price's house a few years before he died. The walls were covered with sketches done by great artists. Framed in these cheap K-mart frames. Cool stuff. <p> But I'm not surprised that people aren't familiar with the classics of the genre; flip through your 500 cable channels and count how many are running old stuff. Basically, no one except TCM. Watch the Chiller channel for a week. Guess what? They only run things made in the last few years. Sadly, that's the future of cable television. And the death knell of Hollywood history. In the very near future, if you want to watch something made pre-2000, you're going to have to rent it.
Nov. 4, 2009, 4:21 a.m. CST
That's like some serious next-gen technology! Can such a device truly exist? Think of the uses and the implications...<p> Harry, you're out there on the ragged edge...
Nov. 4, 2009, 4:22 a.m. CST
Here's another guy who grew up reading FMOFL. (Although admittedly CREEPY, EERIE and VAMPI were really more of my bag.) Best sentence: "The wolfman pulls a guy’s lungs out and we got what a day and a half to do that?" I seriously can't wait for this movie to get here.
Nov. 4, 2009, 4:27 a.m. CST
Those are the only two bits that bug me as well. The facial sequence is my favorite too, being that it's not CGI and it's so realistic. I think the key thing that made that transformation as good as it is is the editing. The two great things that make up a great transformation: Great makeup and great editing.
Nov. 4, 2009, 4:34 a.m. CST
Editing is important. I do like that they take their time during the transformation. I forgot how effective that was. I want more boneplate shifting, sort of slow, but seismic!
Nov. 4, 2009, 4:39 a.m. CST
I fucking LOVE that video and it should have been put on DVD by now. Jackson, Landis and Baker at their peak.
Nov. 4, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST
I always wanted to hear what Baker had to say about that film.
Nov. 4, 2009, 5:31 a.m. CST
practical effects ftw
Nov. 4, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST
I mean - I'll still see the movie, but I really want to know what the fuck happened with this movie.
Nov. 4, 2009, 5:56 a.m. CST
— how much of what he envisioned is in the finished film (I'm assuming you've seen it)? I don't know how well he fit the material, as talented as he is, but do you think he would've been more interested in having the practical effects for the actors?<br><br>Also, how has Joe Johnston merged his take with Romanek's? My favourite picture he did is "The Rocketeer" (RIP Dave Stevens) and hopefully this film can catch some of that excitement.
Nov. 4, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST
for a great dvd section this week... Wait a minute! No dvd section? Wow, what a surprise! So you are still the same old bastard motherfucker. Well, thank you Harry, once again, for disrespecting us, your readers.
Nov. 4, 2009, 8:13 a.m. CST
and that's not a bad thing! too dark (a good thing), too gothic (again a good thing) and too pithy (need i say it). no offence, JP3 was top drawer! :)
Nov. 4, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST
I love the fact that this site is classic film geek enough to run such a conversation in its entirety, but really Harry, the comments about Gypsies were disgusting and really took me out of a really pleasurable article. Yeah, I know it was said in a joking way, and might be talking about depictions in films rather than reality, and maybe you dont have the same experience in America as we do in Europe, but it would be the same as publishing racist stereotypes about Hispanic or Black people. Its ugly and beneath an influential site like aintitcool. "Harry: Yeah, you are like checking to see if you have everything in your pockets… [Everyone Laughs] Rick Baker: I went to craft service and it was gone. They had said “The gypsies were here!”"
Nov. 4, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST
Seems like we first heard about it 2+ years ago and it's been shooting for like a year?<p> Eh, it still went from pitch to print much faster than John Carter did<p> But we got 2 sparkely vampire movies in that thime though. <br> Bonus one of them has werewolves
Nov. 4, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST
I'm not a simple-minded "practical rawks/CG sucks" guy, but the shot in the trailer has horrible digital/glassy eyes (and no compression around them/no 'acting'), and the closeup/insert of the eye getting bigger is an embarrassment, with things expanding and shrinking fluidly instead of skin being pushed and folding into the socket and compressing against the brow, bone moving, skin sliding again, etc. There's no internal logic or sense of progression to it and as a result the eye looks cartoony and laughable. Not even a well-designed shot aside from how it was achieved! I hope you guys fix it in time because that stuff just isn't up to par with Baker's stuff even in the same trailer. Guy does the most iconic transformation of all time and producers/cg supervisors aren't interested in his input/art direction? The irony here is that Baker's work combining practical with digital on The Frighteners probably pre-dates many of the guys working on these shots actually getting into the industry... <p> And even Baker's own Zbrush stuff looks better (especially the eyes) than those shots in the trailer. <p> The shot of Rick getting 'taken' at full speed rocks though!
Nov. 4, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST
by Shepard Wong
then marginalizes his involvement. Idiots.
Nov. 4, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST
by the Green Gargantua
MOTHER FUCKERS. So the Creature design is just as fucked as the terrible script???? AAAAAHHHHH. Wow, it is fucking Godzilla all over again people. You are aware that this version of the creature is a genetic mutant right? Who approves this stuff?? I hope this Wolfman movie kills, I really do. Cg mixed with practical is the way to go so I have high hopes.
Nov. 4, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST
Have echoes of WOLVERINE.
Nov. 4, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST
They're not all thieves and fortune tellers, Harry. And they're actually called the Romani.
Nov. 4, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST
by I Max U Mini
It should be Rick Baker and Hatty Knowles howl at the moon, not howls. Rick Baker howls and Harry Knowles howls, but Rick AND Harry howl.
Nov. 4, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST
First thing I noticed when the page came up. When I come to this site, I'm always reminded of that scene from "Platoon" where King is writing a letter to his woman back home. "D-E-A-R, King. Not D-E-E-R." He responds, "Don't matter none. She knows what I mean."
Nov. 4, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST
...the reported TV series AMC is producing of The Walking Dead? Apart from Darabont being tentatively attached?
Nov. 4, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST
Not one of the early reviews have been posted or linked to. http://www.brutalashell.com/2009/10/an-early-look-at-the-wolfman/
Nov. 4, 2009, 3 p.m. CST
Goes pretty deep into the movie-geek pool. Nice. Sad story about Harry and Vincent Price, but I'm glad to hear he was such a gentleman, as always.
Nov. 4, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST
jesus..this site is written by and for 12 year olds.
Nov. 4, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST
by 3 Bag Enema
...but I read this instead. Thanks, Harry!
Nov. 4, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST
Hiding under the covers at night with a flashlight reading Famous Monsters or Creepy or Eerie magazine, not because we had to, just because it was cooler that way.
Nov. 4, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST
I assume you mean, "THE MONSTER SQUAD?" I know that's not your favorite movie, but I'm pretty sure you know what it is.<br><br> Also Universal owns that make-up copyright, and that movie was not Universal. I'm sure Stan would have loved to make it look like the original, and working within those restrictions I think that Gill Man is fantastic. It's it's own thing, while echoing the original. The best I've ever seen aside from the original, and come to think of it, what the heck has there been, save maybe Mad Monster Party.
Nov. 4, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST
by MR. MURDOCH
Reading between the lines (hell, you don't even have to, with a few of Baker's comments), it sounds like this production was a total clusterfuck. At this point, I, too am more interested in the behind-the-scenes story than the actual film...
Nov. 4, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST
by Brannagins Law
in Toluca Lake. I really wanted to talk to him but what do you say... plus he was eating so I didn't want to be rude. A week before that I was a couple tables away from David Lynch at a restaurant in Brentwood. He's a pretty intimidating looking guy, and again what do you say? Still it's pretty cool to just be in their presence.
Nov. 4, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST
Let me get this straight. There's an actual audio recording of this entire conversation, a digital recording mind you, and I'm expecting to READ TRANSCRIPTION OF IT ON THE INTERNETS! WTF?!
Nov. 4, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST
It was in the UK anyway... I still can't eat lasagne
Nov. 5, 2009, 12:19 a.m. CST
by Cap'n Jack
Nov. 5, 2009, 4:08 a.m. CST
Nov. 5, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST
... on playing it classy and not bugging them while they were eating.
Nov. 5, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST
by angry kitty
Nov. 5, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST
by Damned if I can login
Well, since good taste at this site is pretty much on the level of an oxymoron, I'd settle for good grammar. Which BTW, is also a lost cause.<p>Oh well, at least they're batting .1000
Nov. 5, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST
by Dollar Bird
Nov. 5, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST
Can't shake the feeling the whole "family secret" plot is going to piss me off...
Nov. 5, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST
Im not shitting you, try it.
Nov. 5, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST
Having Harry visit a set (or sending him some freebies from the movie) guarantees an enthusiastic review from Harry.
Nov. 6, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST
Nov. 6, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST
Sorry, but this thing has been dragged out for so long now the movie already feels like old news. Way to screw the pooch, studio morons.
Nov. 6, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST
Yeah, coming in 2012 - just after the world ends!
Nov. 7, 2009, 4:53 a.m. CST
Not "Amazing" The Movie sucked donkey balls and was even parodied on Mystery science theater awhile back. Too bad as it had a great Horror concept and "Amazing" Makeup effects thanks to Baker.<p>Would love to see a remake of this, maybe paul Verhooven could be suitable for the job.
Nov. 8, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST
Is a Werewolf and he and Deltoro have a great CGI fight at the end. Kind of like The Hulk I suppose
Nov. 8, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST
Nov. 10, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST
by Mr Nicholas
Nov. 10, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST
for Wolfman. God help us...
Nov. 12, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST
Baker is one of my idols. It would be so awesome to sit around and shoot the shit with him. My aunt actually lived next to his parents in Port Angeles for a time. They told me about touring their house ans seeing a bunch of masks. I was SO jealous!
Nov. 17, 2009, 4:05 a.m. CST
"It’s way more exactly what I want to see from you than when I visited you on THE GRINCH. I loved THE GRINCH stuff, but WOLFMAN stuff is my favorite." An excerpt from one of the most exasperating things I've ever read. You have the opportunity to grill Rick Baker and blow all the dialogue on fanboy dribble? And please stop the name-dropping, not to mention the "I get freebies" droning. It's embarrassing. Thirteen-year-old apprenticing journalists interview celebrities--and they're more professional (zippo name dropping, poignant questions, research).