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John Rhys-Davies Ain't In THE HOBBIT!? At Least Not As A Dwarf...
Merrick here...
John Rhys-Davies (Gimli in the LORD OF THE RINGS films) spoke to Empire about whether or not he would be returning to the Tolkienverse for THE HOBBIT. Gimli doesn't appear in THE HOBBIT, but his dad does, as do other reps of his Dwarf race. While a little disappointing, Rhys-Davies' answer is also understandable.
"I've already been asked and to be honest with you, I wouldn't. I have already completely ruled it out. There's a sentimental part of me that would love to be involved again. Really I am not sure my face can take that sort of punishment any more."
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But the production did ask if he'd be interested in returning.
"It was just a gentle "What would you feel about putting it on again?" But no. I'd be interested in trying to create a different type of persona within... the thing. That is challenging as an actor. I'd really prefer to play something quite different. Maybe an Elf. They've got a different set of problems with The Hobbit because you've got 13 dwarves, a whole band of them... You're trying to represent a whole race... You're trying to do for dwarves what The Lord of the Rings did for hobbits. "
...says Rhys-Davies HERE.
So, just because he won't be a Dwarf doesn't mean they couldn't squeeze him into a different role, no? Would be kinda cool to see as many of the old gang back as possible, even through re-purposed casting.
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But the production did ask if he'd be interested in returning.
"It was just a gentle "What would you feel about putting it on again?" But no. I'd be interested in trying to create a different type of persona within... the thing. That is challenging as an actor. I'd really prefer to play something quite different. Maybe an Elf. They've got a different set of problems with The Hobbit because you've got 13 dwarves, a whole band of them... You're trying to represent a whole race... You're trying to do for dwarves what The Lord of the Rings did for hobbits. "
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Sliders reference FTW.
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TOM FUCKING HARDY, that's who!!!! (Jesus, I'm bitter over this whole thing...)
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Oct 30, 2009 10:58:02 AM CDT
13 dwarves? What is this- a night at George Lucas' house?
by yackbacker
ZING!
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. . . its the news I look for every time I come to this site. Clive Owen for Bard of Laketown, bitches!!!
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he personally told me this on the set of Indianna jones and the last crusade
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is giving me a rash.
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Wow, Rhys-Davies is some kind of prophet then. Too bad he didn't sort out Dernholm Elliot.
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as long as we've got Ian returning. As for Bilbo, who knows? It may as well be an unknown. The two parts of the Hobbit will be his only film roles followed by a life of leisure travelling the comic con circuit.
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Oct 30, 2009 11:08:06 AM CDT
I don't blame him not wanting to put on the dwarf make-up again.
by tom_bombadil
If he had as much trouble with it (as it sounds like he did) why would he? I want more details about this movie!!!
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My post should have readhe personally told me this on the set of Indianna jones and the last crusade: "Make up gives me a rash and i hate it"SO i was surprised he joined LOTR
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I really don't see why there is this sentimental need to put actors from the LOTR trilogy in either new roles or cameos of their LOTR characters that aren't in the book. Ian playing Gandalf is in because Gandalf the Grey is in the book. They have a lot to fit in the movies to begin with let alone crowd it up with unnecessary fluffy stuff like having Legolas appear for no reason. I can see John Rhys-Davies doing a voice of one of the CGI roles like he did with Treebeard. He could play the Eagle king or something like that, but shouldn't play a dwarf again. They just need do the source material justice like they did with the first three films and it should rock. And I don't think they need to do the cameo thing if they want to establish any continuity. I remember Peter Jackson saying they thought about putting in a minute or two opening in The Two Towers explaining what happened in The Fellowship of the Ring and they axed it because of time constraints and ultimately felt it was not needed. He said if you want to catch up watch it on DVD again. He was right as each film grossed more than the previous one and the same logic should apply here.
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Already Treebeard. Give him something else.
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His character isn't in The Hobbit. I guess he could play Gimli's father, Gloin. But eh, it's not really a big deal.
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...Bombur, the fat dwarf.
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He's a quality enough character actor to pull off a different role w/o it seeming contrived. However, as for having "as much of the cast as possible" returning, I'm a little more skeptical. Bloom doesn't have a whole lotta range. Neither does Astin or Elija. I like them, they just don't "disappear" into a role.(Isn't Samwise just a rehash of a loveable-loser Goonie who digs up a caveman?) Vigo's really good though. He's got a wide amount of character possibilities...as long as they're intense. Everybody he plays is intense.
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i see your Clive Owen and raise you Liam Neeson
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There is no issue. Gimli's father, Gloin, was one of the dwarves travelling w/ Bilbo, and I think people were thinking he could play that part w/ slightly different makeup. It's not a big deal at all though. I can't even think of a character in the Hobbit Davis could lend his voice too. It's not right for Smaug, and I'm hoping they don't make the eagles and spiders talk at all.
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The Hobbit movie should be allowed to fly free of any baggage from the trilogy movies. I vote "no" to any nods, winks, or stunt casting to capitalize on LOTR nostalgia. Let it be its own movie.
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My vote for Bombur is Mr. Nick Frost.
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...is the exact reason this site SHOULDN'T have an edit button. No backtracking on faux pas or plot holes.
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gotta be some grizzle faced slobbering creature he can play, right?
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Brendan Gleeson retains my vote for Thorin.
I'm also glad John Rhys-Davies isn't playing a different dwarf, that would be weird when you watched the HOBBIT back in chronlogy with LOTR. It would get to Gimli's entrance and you'd be like, wtf? This guy again?? -
"Oh look! There's that guy!" "Hey look! The actor from the other movies in another role!".
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I don't blame him for not wanting to do it again. Plus, him playing Gloin might be too similar to Gimli.
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It didn't seem to matter when suddenly there was a giant tree talking with Gimli's voice. He'll be in for some more voice work, guaranteed
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We don't need him to do more voice-over work, he already did Treebeard, he'll be too recognizable as Smaug or something else. I'm surprised that can't figure out better make-up effects conditions for him, it's been over 10 years since they filmed the LOTR, technology hasn't advanced at all in that field?
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It's only after years of separation that you realize how truly awful Elijah Wood was in LOTR. Subtract the hype and the anticipation of the time, and you're left with a horrible casting choice that could have ruined the entire trilogy. I find myself laughing at his dramatic scenes--not good.
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Oct 30, 2009 12:05:33 PM CDT
His allergic reactions to the make-up were really bizarre.
by mr. nice gaius
The stuff was practically burning his face. I think on the EE DVDs, they say that he could only shoot for a day and then he would need a couple of days off in order for his face to recover. It's kind of surprising to think that they couldn't have developed something a little more hypoallergenic or whatever.I would totally love for him to have some sort of cameo but I do not want to see/hear him do another voice roll. I think the voice work in THE HOBBIT will require fresh blood. (The casting of Smaug is CRUCIAL.)
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that doesn't want prostethics on his face. It was pretty well documented, that he got a terrible rash becasue of an allergic reaction from the prostethics he had to use.
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I can think of only one scene where he didn't come off as convincing...and I don't really blame that on him. It's likely that it had more to do with Jackson's level of exhaustion and desire to "ramp up" the dramatics.
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John Rhys-Davies as a big dude who turns into a bear seems a natural to me.
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should be Radagast, the Brown Wizard.
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Johnny said YOU gave him the rash and to go see your doctor.Script Doctors should really be more careful.
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I agree with Gaius I thought Elijah did a great job in that role.
Remember the part of Frodo isn't to be a tough guy. He's quite a gentle soul, you might even him call him a wuss. I much prefer Elijah's Frodo to the one in the Bakshi movie at least.
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His voice is outstanding so he could easily do voice-over for a CGI troll or even Smaug. He could do Beorn in the flesh, perhaps, if they even put him in the film. Maybe the Goblin king in the Misty Mountains? The voice of Gwaihir the eagle? Lots of possibilities.
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I can't believe I misspelled that. My geek cred has just taken a sizable hit.
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That Jettl93 is a douche bag!
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This is perfect for him! A way to be a part of the world again and like he said, a new and interesting challenge for someone used to playing the hero or tough guy.As for Bard of Dale, that's a tougher nut. I would say Bard should be Jack Davenport, whom we know here as the Commodore from Pirates of the Caribbean. He'd be a good fit there.
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Maybe. It's Always Sunny in Moria? Anyone?
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OI like the Idea of him being the Goblin King, it would be a fine testament to his contribution already.
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Danny Devito, Joe Pesci, Tom Cruise, Gary Coleman, Wee man, Vern Troyer, Warwick Davis, some random ewok extra coming back into the limelight, Martin Scorcese, An Asian guy, T
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Danny Devito, Joe Pesci, Tom Cruise, Gary Coleman, Wee man, Vern Troyer, Warwick Davis, some random ewok extra coming back into the limelight, Martin Scorcese, An Asian guy, That indian guy thats the oompa loompa, Michael Jackson Midget, and this guy:
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The dragon will be played by a thousand screaming vaginas linked together by whispers and scary tales.
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Never heard anybody say a bad thing about him. Good guy.
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It would be the cheesiest thing just have people mugging for the camera. Stay away!
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...if John Rhys-Davies makes a return.
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Oct 30, 2009 12:48:11 PM CDT
Have him as Sallah on THE HOBBIT. Don't explain to the audience.
by ricarleite2
Just have him there. Genius.
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This movie ain't gonna have no CGI in it! I'm expecting muppets all the way. If he does Smaug's voice, he's going to be wearing the Smaug costume.
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Some decent comedy actors for a few of the Dwarves mixed with a couple of heavyweights and there you have it. Brian Cox is such a no-brainer for Thorin Oakenshield. Liam Neeson maybe for Tharanduil, Legolas's father, King of the Elves of Mirkwood. Maybe Martin Freeman for young Bilbo, perhaps James McAvoy, and end the movie with an old Bilbo (Ian Holm) and Gandalf reminiscing about the adventures.
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Gimli isn't part of the The Hobbit, so why would John Rhys Davis be? Plus the prosthetics were torture on the guy. I support his decision.
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Should be the Bear guy in the woods. That voice...it's him or Brian Blessed.
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the prosthetics for Gimli basically melted his face badly for a marathon 18 month shoot
unless there is a drastic advance in makeup I can understand him being unwilling to do that again
but I mean, lest we forget, he was also amazing as Treebeard (mindblowing; he talks on the INHALE to try to show how weird a talking tree-man sounds)
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He could totally be Beorn.
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Oct 30, 2009 1:18:19 PM CDT
Good job John, rarther do more shitty scifi channel movies?
by billboefett
What an ass. "My face can't take it anymore". Well, then, you shouldn't have fucking been so lazy and gotten so heavy/old/fat/unhealthy then, right? Enjoy your "fame" being in "Attack of the Leopard Demon from Iraq" with Casper Van Dien.
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"Brendan Gleeson retains my vote for Thorin."
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Knowing Del Toro, it's pretty much a lock that Ron Perlman will be handling that role.
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They're already going to have Bilbo, Gandalf, Gollum, Elrond, and Gwahir in the films, and will probably include Aragorn, Saruman, Galadrial, Celeborn, Legolas, and Sauron as well. How many more characters/actors from LOTR do we need?
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Sounds to me like he is hoping to be cast as Thranduil, the elf-king.
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I don't want to see any of the actors who played significant roles in The Lord of the Rings appearing in The Hobbit ata ll, unless they are reprising their characters. Not only does it make no sense, it's annoying and takes you out of the film. It would be like Lucas putting Mark Hamill or Harrison Ford or Billy Dee Williams in the prequels, there is just no benefit to it for the film itself, other than wanky self indulgent ego padding and back slapping. I mean personally I wasn't even a fan of Rhys-Davies playing Treebeard, as to me his voice is just way too familiar and recognisable, and it undermines the character a bit for me as a result. You can double that for Peter Jackson's googly eyed kids showing up in each film in different roles, each requiring a googly eyed close up. Outside of returning characters, The Hobbit should have a unique cast, all selected because they were believed to be the best choice for each individual role. Anything else is just bollocksy bullshit.
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..but as Balin. I'm thinking James Cosmo as Thorin!! I like Brian Cox as my second vote. Bard should be played by Thomas Kretschmann. He and PJ have already worked together. I loved JRD in LOTR, but he shouldn't be in The Hobbit.
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But I wouldn't mind Selma Blair as an elfen princess. Should Zooey be unavailable.
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Stegman, I agree with your general point but no need to insult Peter Jackson's kids dude. That's uncalled for.
Now you got me thinking about where Billy Dee Williams might have popped up in THE PHANTOM MENACE... back to Grando Calrissian again. -
With his role on Sons of Anarchy, which is rumoured to be picked up for the next two seasons, thanks to vastly stronger than expected ratings, I doubt he'll be available to play a major, screentime heavy, role in The Hobbit, though I'd be frankly surprised if Del Toro didn't squeeze him in there somewhere. I'd also be very surprised if Del Toro didn't cast both Luke Goss and John Hurt, along with the always guaranteed Doug Jones. I also predict good chance of Roy Dotrice, Norman Reedus, Karel Roden and Thomas Kretschmann showing up as well.
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And a blue-faced Christopher Walken. Thanks for the memories, Cobra-Kai.
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Don't worry, Del Toro will find a way. As a matter of fact, I believe he's already spoken to Perlman and Doug Jones about appearing in the film. While nothing is set is stone, they appear to be top candidates for something. The intersting challenge will be to find a role for Jones since Andy Serkis has already got the role of Gollum wrapped up.
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did not sound like Gimli. So quit crying about it taking you out of the movie.
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his character isnt in The Hobbit, so why are we sad he's not returning? thats like being sad because scooby-doo isnt in it.
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...BRIAN BLESSED!!! This guy would bring the dwarf king to life better than anyone else possibly could. With his magnificent voice and bombastic, energy-filled acting style, he would set the bar. The only problem would be finding twelve other guys to play dwarves who could hold up on screen with him.
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I know who can hold up w/ him. Timothy Dalton for Beorn!!!
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BRIAN BLESSED HAS TO HAVE A PART IN THIS. IN TRIBUTE TO HIM I HAVE WRITTEN THIS POST IN HIS STYLE.
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While I think Brian Blessed would've been a good Odin, I don't think he's right for Thorin. Thorin is proud and a bit grumpy. I see Blessed as loud and over-the-top. he's definitely got the stature to play a dwarf king, though. Maybe he could play Thorin's father (or Grandfather), in flashback. He could display the dwarves in the Lonely Mountain in their full glory.
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Or who does he claim to be? He isn't actually Jett Lucas, that's pretty obvious, cause the reasl Jett was born in '93 and Crusade was filmed in 88/89 so Rhys Davies didn't tell him anything. And if he's just some long standing LucasFilm employee who thinks he knows stuff, why in the world would he take the name of Lucas' actual son, that's just creepy and weird.
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If you come back and something stupid like... No no, what I meant to say was that Rhys Davies told me, that during the making of IJATLC his face was irritated by the makeup, but he told me this in 1999, at a Lucas family reunion." Or some other backtracking crap, we'll all know you are full of it. I for one already know, and I can dislocate my shoulder and pop it back in with excrutiating pain, all while telling anti-semetic racist jokes, so BACK OFF DUDE!
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Perhaps the whole Tom Bombadil sequence would be more tonally appropriate for this piece instead? He'd certainly be well suited for that role!
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Take that to the bank from a reputible source
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suggestions??
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JettL is a rather comical person with some sort of mental problem. He is pretty much adamant that he knows about, and is responsible for every major Hollywood film going. He claims to have given a load of scoops, which he hasn't. He just rehashes a load of rumours. To be honest, the guy is an arse
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JettL = wannabe SuperShadow. Although his BS can be entertaining, please ignore him so he'll kindly fuck off!
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No, he won't. Smaug will be voiced by Ian McShane.Didn't you get the memo?
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Oct 30, 2009 3:32:58 PM CDT
you've all been reading that write up at batman onfilm, haven't
by jettl93
it basically claims i'm a false profit, but in honesty there source is out of the loop, Batman 3 is alot further along then most of the crew know
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You've probably become the next running gag of every AICN talkback for the next three months.
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LOL!How PROPHETIC...
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Can you tell that Gimli is voiced by John Rhys-Davies if you shut your eyes and just listen to the voice? Yes. Easily.Can you tell that Treebeard is voiced by John Rhys-Davies if you shut your eyes and just listen to the voice? Yes. Easily. Can you tell that WillardGreensThunderballs is a complete fucking tool even if you shut your eyes and psychically read the talkback? Yes. The most easily of all. Case closed, end of story, thanks for playing, fuck off and die.
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no thank you. He could play a decent dwarf I guess. But don't give him the voice of Smaug.
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It is very funny. He reminds me of that bicycle riding kid from The Kids in the Hall. The one that kept annoying the butcher with his non-stop random comments. "well I gotta go, I'm in a bike race!"
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Was the one where he said Heath Ledgers family told him he should collect Ledgers Oscar as Jett played such a big part in the success. I can take a joke, but that went too far in my book
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Is anyone else itching to see how much Del Toro's visual style is going to differ from Jacksons? In some ways i think it's going to be pretty much an exact match, and in other ways i think it's going to be so different it might take the viewer out of the established world jackson created
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.. in the first place? He was already in LOTR inexplicably playing 2 parts. This is a different story.. get different actors (except for the overlapping characters, of course.) It's Tolkien, not DR. STRANGELOVE or AUSTIN POWERS.
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That's what I got from all the behind the scenes stuff. I really wished Brian Blessed had been Gimli after listening to him whine repeatedly about the makeup. So what? You get to be immortal for all time in one of the biggest trilogies in history. But no his face itched, wah wah. Yeah, he really looks like an Elf too. I'm sure when he looks in the mirror he magically sees Orlando Bloom. No wonder he was worried about his face. If he only knew the truth. lol
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I can't imagine him as an elf! LOL Maybe a human.
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The Hobbit should not be treated like that. I do not want to see actors from the Lord of the Rings films, recast, just so they can be together again. All that does is make it less of a real film and more of a RECAST REUNION sort of film. Why treat such an important universe like that?
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That's the way I feel. Recycling the same people just takes me out of the setting. As much as I love Rhys-Davies, the Treebeard thing was a little distracting to me. It made no sense. Same thing with those cute kids who somehow magically teleported all over Middle-earth.
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Those little children were like immortal and just showed up everywhere. Maaaybe they were the nephews of a promiscuous family, they just got around..
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Those little children were like immortal and just showed up everywhere. Maaaybe they were the nephews of a promiscuous family, they just got around..
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He was in his 60's during the events of The Hobbit; considered too young to go on the trip. And there's a "deleted scene" from the Lord of the Rings books which has Gandalf explaining the events leading up to The Hobbit. So they could have added an intro scene with Gandalf, Gimli, and a whole buncha dwarves, had they really wanted to, and it would have been accurate to Tolkien's world...
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Oct 30, 2009 4:44:39 PM CDT
Am I the only one who thinks that John Rhys-Davies was awful as
by ironhelix
They made Gimli comedy relief, and I thought it really detracted from the movies. He looked fucking stupid in the makeup, like a really bad Halloween mask, and the dwarf-tossing scene made me cringe. Dwarves should be more stout than he was (lets face it, Davies is an old man), and I never believed that he was capable of swinging that axe.
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Oct 30, 2009 4:57:19 PM CDT
The gay guy from Velvet Goldmine was the dwarf
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
Funny...He didnt look druish
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Oct 30, 2009 4:58:57 PM CDT
Smaug voiced by lovechild of James Earl Jones and William Conrad
by darth_inedible
Seriously he's only 12 but he's been on Peter Jackson's special 4 pack a day regimen since infancy.
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Ha! Brilliant! Good one.
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Gimli isn't in The Hobbit anyway.
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Who's playing Snow White? Because Michael Jackson would be perfect.
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the only man who could play Thorin was Hans Conried. Yep. I totally wrote that and meant it. But Richard Boone made for a lousy Smaug.
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That hump is a demented genius.
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...they intended for Gimli to be in some sort of bridge film between HOBBIT and LOTR.
And if they did, they should either rewrite it or dub his voice in over a lookalike, because the fewer people they need to recast, the better.
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Quick, somebody call over to NBC and get hold of Adrian Pasdar!
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William Shatner! They could even CGI over-the-top, exaggerated motions with the dragon wings.
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he's gotten even more ridiculous lately. look in the MIB talkback, he says something like "I'm surprised no one mentioned me because of my totally awesome scripts for Batman" or some nonsense.
I kinda wish he'd tone it down like he used to, when more people were really debating whether he was real or not. now, everyone's in on the joke and it's not as much fun.Jett, you hearing me? tone it down, go back to your old school stuff. it was way funnier reading the interactions. -
Nice to see he's got some old-school dignity and not interested in what could be seen as a cash-grab. I don't think he belongs in there anyway, even as Gimili's old man(dwarf?).
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Damn that's to bad. I was only commenting on his old school body of work. That was good stuff.
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and as one of the Dwarfs
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He turned down a stupid cameo in Indy IV as well. Boy, was he smart!!
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Well I would anyways.
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Here's a novel idea: don't do the Hobbit. (I'll wait until the shouting dies down...) First of all, The Lord of the Rings is a serious work of literature written for an adult audience. It literally has the fate of the world in the offing. The Hobbit is a children's book, written about some dwarves getting in some misadventures on their way to kill a dragon. After the Lord of the Rings, it'll be very anti-climactic. Also, you can never go home again. You just can't go back after several years and recapture the magic. Look at the Futurama movies: they suck. They're reminiscent of the old Futurama that everyone loves, but they're fundamentally different. The Hobbit (parts one and two, which is also a terrible idea) will be the same way: it'll be vaguely reminiscent of the Lord of the Rings, but it won't have that spark that made the trilogy such great movies. Hate me if you like, but I'll be dancing a jig in the winner's circle when these movies finally premier.
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...or close to it...hate to say it. Too hammy.
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...looked unnecessarily fake.Just need to cast the right person...just about any of Mel Gibson's village buddies in BRAVEHEART would make a perfect dwarf. Especially Hamish and his dad. The dad especially.Just round up a bunch of ornery, stumpy, badass Scotsmen.
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I dont care who they caste. I just hope they make the Hobbit with some atmosphere, something that was hit and miss in LOTR. Sometimes it was spot on, and sometimes it was so sterile, that the world didn't feel real or organic, particular in ROTK, when battle after battle had not feel to it.
Battle of the 5 armies needs to feel dirty, bloody, real, like the first few minutes of FOTR.
Smaug should be done along the lines of the Rankin Bass version, that was about as good as it gets, James Earl Jones should be the voice.
Herb out.
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I'm OK with this, unless they planned to use him as part of the ROTK appendix/Unfinished Tales connector scene...those that actually read the book know what I'm talking about....
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Oct 30, 2009 8:39:50 PM CDT
Oops, that was meant to say: Gimli WAS NOT in The Hobbit!
by astral_projector
DOH!
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its gold
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It's basically LOTR lite.
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One of the most memorable scenes from my childhood reading. Read "The Hobbit" and "Watership Down" when I was 8.
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Oct 31, 2009 6:43:52 AM CDT
What, there´s been no advancements in make-up in 10 years?
by zombieheathledger
Just please don´t have JRD as the voice of Smaug, one problem I had with LOTR was that I immediately recognized Treebeard as JRD.
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Someone tell Rhys-Davis he's ugly, ffs.
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Takes me right out of the movie every time he comes onscreen. Hitchcock did cameos but he was always in the background not the fucking Mercenary Boat Commander or at Helm´s Deep killing an orukai. Plus if you listen to the DVD commentary he´s all,¨yeah, when I did the stunt where I get shot with an arrow, all the girls on the set were checking me out.¨WTF?? Btw, can someone answer this for me: is that PJ or not as one of the Wild Men in the scene with Saruman as they are burning down the Eastfold (or was it westfold) the reason I ask is because I´m pretty certain it is (which would´ve given PJ not one but TWO cameos for his in TTT, which admittedly is a bit excessive. Anyway I tried to credit him on his wiki page but the dumb fucking shitstain moderator swears it´s not him and took down my edits. Any help?
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PJ cameos... a drunkard holding a carrot in FOTR, he plays the Wildman and spear thrower in TT, and in the EE of ROTK he's a pirate.
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I knew it! If anyone wants to help me trash that mod, I´d be very grateful. p.s., cobra, Lockwood (shh!)
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Please
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ZHL, KL most professional. We were talking about you the other day actually on Dickblood's site AIBN. Glad you're still about bro!
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Oct 31, 2009 9:23:51 AM CDT
If they recast LOTR people in this THEY ARE LAZY. End of story.
by scarywaitress
Other than Ian, of course- if he HADN'T come back, they should have scrapped the project because it would have been LAME.
People this is a major project, I'm sure there are OTHER dwarf candidates out there! I mean PLEASE!
And for the love of all things holy, PLEASE keep Mr-Overactor Wood OUT OF THIS PRODUCTION. That poor pretty boy can't act his way out of a paper bag. Rewatching the trilogy, I am reminded anew how disappointing he is as Frodo.
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This man was born to play Thorin Oakenshield, and if he's not in this movie I will eat my own shit for breakfast.
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That would be classic.
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MY POINT EXACTLY. You have an entire NATION of grumpy badass Scots to tap... why the HELL would you need Hambone Rhys Davies back?
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Oct 31, 2009 9:34:47 AM CDT
I'd LOVE it if they got the elves right this time, too...
by scarywaitress
You know, casting some willowy, interesting people, rather than the Eurotrash squad they used in LOTR.
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He's sort of a bumptious politician and he wouldn't have to wear latex. I thought Gimli was too comical and didn't have any of the essential dignity of the proper dwarf; because he was short, they made him funny, which is offensive.
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that guy went to be even the main villain in his movies.jesus.
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He already appeared in The Golden Compass and The Dark is Rising: he's a fantasy jinx. It will be a flop if he's in it.
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Who the Hell is gonna play Bilbo? The last thing I heard was that they were talking to Ewan McGregor. C'mon, let us know already!!!!
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I'd love to see that.
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He just says he has worked on stuff. that's it? That's funny? blimey! We really are scrapping the barrel for talkback characters here these days eh.
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You know you wanna see it, too.
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John Rhys-Davies was in his 50s when he made the LOTR movies. He is in his early 60s now. The man deserves a rest, don't you think?
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Ever seen Laserblast? Deezen is THE BULLY in that one. Surreal.
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I hate to bring up SW again, but honestly, I could have done without GL's need to tie in characters from the first movies into the newer ones. What I mean is that the universe is large enough to have completely new characters instead of finding unlikely ways to rehash old ones. Gimli was one of my favorite characters...........but that doesn't mean I want to see him in a prequel.
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If you take a look at it, ALL of the SW characters are connected together - Anakin, Luke, leia, Emperor, Threepio - Obi Wan, Fett, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Yoda, etc.
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I really think that the casting of British actors in HARRY POTTER has worked out so well - they've teased out loads of great character stuff. I'm sorry to say that in the LORD OF THE RINGS, I just hear many of the actors struggling with the accent, then giving up, and not really delivering great performances. Of course they weren't helped by the fact that Jackson, having made a beautiful, brilliant film in FELLOWSHIP, followed up with two sequels that messed with the source material and emphasised action over character.
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He'd be perfect I think, have him speak like the Kurgan only slower and wiser.
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in HD. stunning.
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JettL is a cunt... and his mom and him both just sucked my cock... There, just because I said that does it make it true?
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make him the voice of a kick ass dragon.
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a dragon.
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looks stunning. if charlise theron is doing mad max 4 her hubby Stuart should play aragorn.
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..nor was Galadriel, Celeborn, Legolas, Saruman, or Sauron (although he was mentioned as the Necromancer).Looks as if a good bit of source material will bite the dust to make room for the inevitable. So who will be cut? Beorn is my guess, much like Tom Bombadil. Gotta make room for all the new material.
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the Special extended dvd of fellowship. philipa boyens said they had to cut tom bomadil out. remember they had condense a whole universe into a 2 hr movie. cuts had to be made.
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of cancer. they should get dennis hopper. I cant belive this site didnt get that news.
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I thought the reason GDT/PJ were going two whole movies is so nothing gets left out. Beorn, while not entirely crucial, certainly is a large part of the story. That would be a huge gap of time from the company escaping from the frying pan (fire and all) and arriving at the entrance to Mirkwood. Dammit, I want to see ponies and dogs walk upright and carry trays of food!While I'm at it: Ron Pearlman is a natch for Beorn, Stephen Moyer (the Vampire Bill - True Blood) as Bard the Bowman and, of course, James McAvoy as Bilbo.
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Lord of the Rings movies are TNT movies at best. They look like an expensive mini series. I know it took a lot of work to make these films and the commitment of everyones valiant effort is duly noted but still I could care less....a first viewing in the theater during the opening weekend is always a good time but c'mon...after that the films are completely boring...over long...and extremely nonsensical unless you've read the books.
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"I really think that the casting of British actors in HARRY POTTER has worked out so well - they've teased out loads of great character stuff. I'm sorry to say that in the LORD OF THE RINGS, I just hear many of the actors struggling with the accent, then giving up, and not really delivering great performances. Of course they weren't helped by the fact that Jackson, having made a beautiful, brilliant film in FELLOWSHIP, followed up with two sequels that messed with the source material and emphasised action over character."
Agree with you about Fellowship being a country mile better than the other two.
Despite being British, I always find it something of an oddity that people tend to think that it's "right" or "proper" that fantasy movies should feature British accents. Why? In fact, it seems to extend to anything that features mediaeval weaponry, or anything prior, fantasy or otherwise. So in Gladiator we have the odd spectacle of watching a New Zealand actor putting on a southern English accent in order to play a Spaniard fighting in ancient Rome. WTF? There seems to be something in us that recoils from having a modern American accent in a mediaeval-tech movie, but I don't see why that should be the case, or at least why modern English accents should be deemed correct by contrast. Perhaps it comes from the erroneous tacit notion that the modern American accent sprang fully-formed into existence 200 years ago, as a "modern accent", whereas British accents have been around since time immemorial, never changing. And, of course, it's nonsense. There is no particular reason to think that Kevin Costner's accent is much further away in state space than, say, Hugh Grant's would be with respect to a 12th century English outlaw. They will both be mutual descendents of that accent, with shedloads of influences from other countries.
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