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I am – Hercules!! Wednesday 18-49; prior weeks in parentheses: 6.3 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Yankees Vs. Phillies 3.7 (3.4) (3.6) (3.4) (3.8) (4.2) Modern Family 3.2 (3.1) (3.3) (3.2) (3.8) (4.4) Cougar Town 2.8 (2.8) (2.6) (2.6) (2.5) (2.5) Law & Order: SVU 2.5 (3.8) (3.8) (3.6) (3.8) (4.4) Criminal Minds 2.2 (3.0) (3.2) (2.9) (3.3) (4.0) CSI: NY 2.2 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Monsters Vs. Aliens Halloween 2.2 (2.0) (2.1) (2.1) (2.6) (----) The Middle 2.0 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) It’s The Great Pumpkin 1.8 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Monsters Vs. Aliens Halloween 1.8 (1.6) (1.7) (1.8) (2.3) (3.0) Eastwick 1.7 (1.5) (1.4) (1.5) (----) (1.5) Top Chef 1.6 (2.0) (2.2) (1.9) (1.9) (2.2) Old Christine 1.6 (2.2) (2.3) (2.2) (2.2) (2.3) Gary Unmarried 1.6 (1.4) (1.4) (1.5) (1.5) (1.3) America’s Next Top Model 1.5 (1.5) (1.8) (1.7) (1.9) (2.0) The Jay Leno Show 1.5 (1.6) (1.6) (1.6) (3.1) (1.8) The Ultimate Fighter 1.4 (1.4) (1.3) (1.3) (1.2) (1.2) Ghost Hunters 1.3 (1.4) (1.3) (1.3) (----) (----) South Park 1.1 (1.2) (1.4) (----) (----) (----) Nip/Tuck 1.0 (1.0) (1.2) (0.9) (----) (----) Mythbusters 0.9 (0.9) (0.9) (1.0) (1.0) (----) Destination Truth 0.9 (0.9) (1.0) (1.3) (1.0) (----) Real World Challenge 0.7 (0.6) (0.6) (0.8) (----) (----) Secret Girlfriend 0.6 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Vampire Diaries Figures in grey represent repeats. * The World Series game was the highest-rated opener in five years and the highest-rated game in two years. * Bravo’s “Top Chef” beat “Leno” in 18-49 for the first time. * The CW's "America's Next Top Model" pulled a better 18-49 number than a Wednesday edition of "Leno" for the first time. If I remember correctly, this is the first time a CW show beat a "Leno" airing the same night. * “Leno” maintained its Wednesday low against a repeat of “CSI: NY.” * The new Wednesday repeat of “Vampire Diaries” is not getting much repeat business. * Everyone appears to be losing interest in FX's "Nip/Tuck," which far lags sister show "Sons of Anarchy." * “Mercy,” pre-empted by the “Monsters Vs. Aliens” special this week, got a full first-season order last week. Find James Hibberd’s analysis here.
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  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Worst episode of this South Park run gets highest ratings?

    by Tall_Boy66

    Odd, that.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Nice to see Eastwick gain a bit

    by jim

    Fun show<p>p.s. Go Phillies!<p>p.s. #2 Happy 50th Asterix!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    south park

    by maxwell's hammer

    I love South Park, but I agree that most of yesterday's episode was pretty weak. But it was all worth it for the punchline.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    I want to see South Park beat Jay Leno

    by SifoDyasJr.

    That would make my life complete.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST


    by Jamie McBain

    The Jay Leno Show, is now a basement dweller.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I'm glad Leno is failing!!

    by FilmGuy125

    Let the ship continue to sink. How long will it take NBC to pull the plug?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:49 p.m. CST

    I love (not)watching Leno fail.

    by MacReady452

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Leno TIED with the Ultimate Fighter?

    by InstantClassic

    Holy shit! How is that possible? Leno's got titties! [/Rampage]

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Why should anybody west of Ohio or south of DC even care about t

    by Citizen Sane

    Unless everybody just wants to see that Yankees lose (that I DO understand). As long as Leno continues to wear his politics on his sleeve, the more his show will fail.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    I'm in Seattle and care DEEPLY about the World Series

    by InstantClassic

    I never, ever, ever want to see A-Rod get a ring. Thus I'm hooked.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Neither the Yankees and the Phillies are worth the time

    by Citizen Sane

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Natalie Portman continues to get me hard

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    She was on Top Chef last night, by the way.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Let's go Yankees!!!

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    How many viewers saw the disgraceful game one exactly?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    A-Roid, you mean, InstantClassic.

    by PennsyDeux


  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Herc, MAJOR Heroes news; if true,,,

    by PennsyDeux

    The end is on the horizon. has a report on its website of the following: <p> --- <p> Sources at NBC have told Airlock Alpha that the inevitable is finally happening: Networks executives will ask "Heroes" producers to wind the series down, possibly with an overall finale by May. <p> "There isn't much happening with this show in terms of audience, and giving it a 'final chapter' feel is something the network is considering to help allow the show to go out with a bang," said the source, who asked not to be identified. <p> "Heroes" began in 2006 as NBC's most buzzed show, and wowed both audiences and critics through the first season. However, Season 2 took a slow start creatively, likely not helped with the departure of producers like Bryan Fuller (who had left to run "Pushing Daisies" on ABC). <p> While the audience stuck it out in the beginning, that started to change by mid-season when the audience erosion began. It finished its second season with a 6.6 rating/10 share, however, second only to "Lost" among averages of overnight ratings from The Nielsen Co. for network genre shows. <p> However, by the 2008-09 season, "Heroes" fell to fifth among network genre shows, with a 4.7/7 average, down nearly 29 percent from the year before. <p> This year after seven episodes, "Heroes" is averaging a 3.6/5, more than 23 percent off from last year, and 45 percent off its pace from the second season. It's currently averaging as NBC's lowest-rated outing on Monday behind the 3.7/6 average of the now-canceled "Trauma" and the 4.4/7 of "The Jay Leno Show." <p> Of course, in the "Jay Leno" instance, his numbers were artificially boosted by an 11.0/18 premiere the week before the fourth season of "Heroes" started, and fell to a 3.8/6 the following week, and has hovered just above the 3.0 household rating mark ever since. <p> "Heroes" might not be the only one saying good-bye this season. With NBC looking for a firm finish in fourth place among all the networks once again, the new guard coming in is looking to really change things up, including possibly a completely revamped lineup that could include the reduction of hours devoted to "Jay Leno." <p> According to this source, "Heroes" is just not part of that mode. "To keep a show like this going despite its numbers requires some nostalgic connection to it, and while there are a lot of people here who were part of bringing 'Heroes' to the air, they are not in the decision-making capacities," the source said. <p> One thing to stress, however, is that no final decision has been made yet, and likely won't be made until closer to mid-season. The source was not even clear if a wrap-up directive had been issued to "Heroes" quite yet. If it hasn't, it will. <p> "I don't think this should surprise anybody," the source said. "The writing has been on the wall for some time." <p> Airlock Alpha did request comment from NBC early Thursday afternoon, which is still pending. However, none of this has been confirmed by NBC quite yet, and should be treated as any rumor would.<p> ---

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Just Goes To Show...

    by Wrath4771

    Natalie Portman is bigger than Leno. Come to think of it...I'd watch her late night show.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Re: Heroes article

    by liesandpicturesofalsolies

    If by go out with a bang, you mean go out with some small degree of dignity. That show has never been able to work itself beyond a pop, a bang would be too much to hope for. PS the only pop in Heroes was Malcolm McDowell but that guy died in the most pointless manner imaginable.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Does this article exist solely to mock

    by BitterMan23

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    CBS secretly planning Letterman's replacement

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Does this article exist solely to beat up on Leno?

    by BitterMan23

    In a decade of reading AICN I can never recall daily ratings updates, and it seems that each one is primarily about how poorly Leno did in comparison to this or that. We get it, you don't like Leno. Do we need a daily reminder? Don't you have unrelated Amazon merch to sell or lousy SNL episodes to defend?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST


    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    They won't you belated dirty dildo because the show continues to be profitable whatever its ratings.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST


    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Herc loves the sleazeback limpdick Letterman more so go figure.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg: Not yet, Ghost Hunters...

    by PennsyDeux

    Maybe next week, though ;)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Well, at least NBC is beating itself.

    by Christopher3

    How long before SyFy pulls ahead of Leno?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    PennsyDeux DAMMIT YEAH YOU

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    are probably right

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST


    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    actually i like the city, but seattle marnier fans (along with seahawk fans) are the most bitter, snobbish, annoying, need to get laid fans in all of sports. what are you snobbish about? you never win anything

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    All Yankee Haters

    by nyj_et

    suck cock by choice.

  • To a joke. He really should have taken a huge deal with ABC and stayed on at 11:30. He's done the same lame show with completely different competition.He use to only face other late night shows and Nightline. Now he has to face so many big-name primetime hit shows.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    BTW, I hate Leno, and it's obvious this site is out to get him.

    by BigTuna

    Posting ratings just to show his failure? You guys are taking huge joy in this. I'm a Howard Stern fan myself, but i'm not going to knock everything Leno does just because Howard says so.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Next it'll be me getting higher ratings than Jay.

    by kabong

    NBC should admit that it's not working, and move Jay back to the 11:35 slot. <P> It will be like a RESET, or REIMAGINING, or REVISIONING.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Hertc, why do you hate Leno?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Is it because Ross the intern hit on you once?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    We'll get the Evil Empire Saturday, Sunday & Tuesday, nyj_et

    by PennsyDeux


  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

    Overrated shit.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    The Jay Leno Show

    by Hercules

    is maybe the biggest TV story since the WB merged with UPN. Nobody got five hours a week in network primetime before. Time put Leno on the cover and called him the future of TV. <p>That said, I suspect he'll be out of our headlines soon.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Because Leno forced NBC's hand, and both are to blame

    by PennsyDeux

    for the single biggest disaster on that network's schedule since Supertrain, and that's saying something. Univision will be passing them by in all rating categories before long. Thing is, he's got an ironclad contract for 2 years, and unless the affiliates, especially the O&O's, unite in rebellion against Zucker, NBC's stuck with Leno and his underachieving ass. Those two parties have pretty much sent NBC to the edge of the abyss.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Holy fuck, lockesbrokenleg and I agree on something...

    by PennsyDeux

    *shakes fist*; don't let it happen again, locke! ;)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    NATALIE PORTMAN was on “Top Chef” Hello!?

    by Orionsangels

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:18 p.m. CST

    You know who's going out of our headlights? Letterman

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Leno ain't going nowhere.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:36 p.m. CST

    The Leno show could've been successful had they changed the form

    by santoanderson

    NBC was pushing this thing like it was a throwback to the old Dean Martin-type variety shows. So I'm anticipating big musical numbers, a cast of characters, big-budgeted sets, etc. Instead we get the old show, albeit with less budget, worse writing, and skits that rip off other shows (a la Top Gear). The best part is watching NBC squirm as they get criticized for canceling higher rated shows, and freely admitting that it's because "We're cheap." It won't be long before Leno's forcibly retired, along with the schmucks who thought the Leno Show was a good idea.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Chevy Chase Show>Leno Show

    by MacReady452

    only Leno will never come back on a sitcom as a support player and kill. What a hack loser Leno is. "Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?" Yeah, your a fuckin loser.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:50 p.m. CST

    I think my AICN postings get more views than Leno's show

    by lockesbrokenleg

    cause everyone hates me. :(

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    It's still Jay Leno's Tonight Show.

    by Orionsangels

    He just brought his version of the Tonight Show to 10pm. He just got tired of his name not being top billing. THE JAY LENO SHOW! It's my show!!!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Cowbell, you're wrong about Mariners and Seahawks fans.

    by vroom socko

    The most bitter, snobbish, annoying, need to get laid fans in all of sports are fans of the Seattle Sounders. Of course, about 2/3 of them are just Seahawks fans who are bored during the off season, so...

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:45 a.m. CST

    NBC deserves LENO, allz I got to say

    by mistergreen

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Wish it were Yankees vs. Dodgers, classic rivalry

    by Josstossesthesalad

    Say what you will about the Yankees, they put together champions. However, I totally understand the hatred. They win way too much and have an unholy amount spent on salary.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST

    The Dodgers blew it on every level

    by Citizen Sane

    The fucking McCourts and their public bickering is disgraceful and compromised the team's image and performance. Manny and his decline are a fucking joke. And we're stuck with him for another year for a bargain rate of only $20,000,000. Regarding the Yankees, they'll do anything to win (probably even sell out their own mothers). When the deck is stacked like that, nobody wins.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST

    These ratings reports are ignorant

    by LethargicJ

    It's really lame the way you make these lists and you take a cable show rating and put it up next to a network rating and then spout your usual X beats Jay Leno bullshit. No, it didn't. Top Chef did NOT beat Jay Leno. A 1.5 network rating and a 1.7 cable rating equal two completely different things. A 1.5 network rating is around twice the number of people that a 1.7 cable rating is. So how did Top Chef beat Leno when it only had half the viewers? What you're doing is like somebody comparing a basketball score to a baseball score and then bragging about how the basketball team has a better offense. No, the numbers just represent two completely different things.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:12 a.m. CST

    RE: Josstossesthesallad

    by Whedon

    Its pretty easy to put together champions when your payroll allows you to field what is essentially a fantasy baseball team year in and year out. That being said, Phillies in 6 games

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST

    How the hell hasn't Eastwick been flatlined yet?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Oh yeah, it's on the CW. It will probably run for 10 years.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST

    I meant last week's South Park (WTF) was the worst

    by Tall_Boy66

    I thought this week was pretty good. "FUCK YOU, DOLPHIN!!!"

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Heroes will go out with a bang, alright...

    by The McPoyle Clan

    ...but, following Heroes' tradition, you won't be able to see it because it will take place offscreen, or behind a set of doors.<br><br>Even if the Yankees weren't involved, the WS would be hard enough to watch, with Joe Suck and his sidekick calling the action. BB ain't supposed to take place with night games this close to winter.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST


    by The McPoyle Clan

    I doubt the WS rating would be as large if NY and Philly, two of the largest media markets, weren't involved. Perhaps a media maven can comment on if they're weighted for geography, or at least reveal how the ratings are outside of those two markets.

  • So I have no trouble seeing why there's a daily tally of where he's at, ratings wise. Many in Hollywood who like Jay Leno are rooting for his show to fail because of what his success would mean for the industry.... Far fewer high-end scripted shows. It's not about who is the best late-night host at all anymore... It's about what the television landscape will be like if the Leno show is a hit.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Despite Horrible Ratings...

    by AngrySnowMonkey

    Jay Leno is still making money for NBC. We will only be rid of this comedy pox when local NBC affiliates refuse air his show before the late news. Herc, how long will this take?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Jay Leno likes to put his chin in asses


    Chin In Ass

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 7:37 a.m. CST

    So, your soul purpose now is getting Leno fired, Herc?

    by Coughlins Laws

    Really? And it has nothing to do with your hero Howard Stern rooting against him? Well, since both Conan and Letterman are doing awful right now, I'd say that whenever NBC gets sick of this experiment (it was a stupid move forcing him out), he'll still have his choice of networks to go back to Late Night in a year or so. Conan I'm sure is safe, but I don't doubt that CBS, ABC, or Fox wouldn't jump at the chance to get Leno. I'm sure glad that Leno's low ratings are getting you off so much. But again, why don't you post the overall ratings? Why just 18-49? Do you not have access to them? Or does that not help your asshole template of trying to make the Jay Leno Show look like more of a dissapointment than it is?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Jay Leno could be beaten by my taint!

    by AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    Seriously, the Morning Farm Report could beat Jay Leno. Hank could beat him, that 50's test pattern thing with the high-pitched tone, random static... all could beat Leno. Can they just sell NBC to Bollywood or something?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 7:44 a.m. CST

    South Park was unfunny last week, except...

    by AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    ...Cartman's version of Poker Face. That one bit provided enough laughs and buzz to actually make you think the show is still funny.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Couhlins Laws

    by AngrySnowMonkey

    18-49 is presented here because that is what advertisers look for. This is the demographic that may actually spend money on the stuff that is advertised. Eh, that's kind of how TV works, buddy. These ratings are not meant to rub salt in the wounds of Leno, but rather provide a reaffirmation that the public likes scripted fare.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    jay leno is like the yankees

    by TheBaxter

    they're both overpaid, they both suck, and they both are soon gonna get CANCELLED.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Great World Series

    by AngrySnowMonkey

    Great matchup of long standing dynasty/evil empire vs. team trying to gp back-to-back. Loaded with MVP's, Cy Young winners. Wonder how this is playing to West Coast, but the ratings are good. Overall, baseball is on the move up and basketball is in decline.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    If NBC ever wants to be taken seriously again...

    by lock67ca

    They're going to have to eat Leno's contract, admit this is a failure, and was a huge mistake.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    I've given Herc plenty of...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...criticism for things over the years but giving him shit for posting this seems really...odd. To be charitable. It's a cute little info-chunk that gives you a convenient way to root for or against some show on the list. And why is everyone bashing Leno? Because Leno being successful would mean a stampede toward lighter than air, puffy, non-scripted crap filling your cable box. I don't give a rat's ass one way or another about whether Leno continues on the air in some form, whether he goes on to be the king of late night or have the biggest hit Discovery ever aired with some vintage car restoration show. I don't care about Leno. I care about having some chance of keeping four or five good high end dramas on the air amidst all the weight losing, star dancing, unknown idols who sit like six ounces of sawdust in the eight ounce hotdog of network television. If Leno succeeds that chance goes from slim to none. The quicker he fails the better. I suspect that's Herc's reasoning as well.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Good Argument, Red Ned Lynch

    by Jayemel

    Well stated.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    I'm not convinced the Leno show *is* making money...

    by Chewtoy

    Not only are the ad rates for it very low, but in order to appease the local network affiliates over low ratings for the nightly-news lead in, NBC has had to give them more prime-time local commercial space... so that's less money for NBC as well. <br><br> At this point it may well be too costly to cut him, and they might not have anything to put in his place that would bring in better ratings anyway. So the best strategy for now is to leave him on as a slow drain, and hope viewing habits change substantially through the holiday repeat season or something. If not, I'd bet on Leno being scaled back to 2 or 3 nights as early as January, if not taken down completely.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST


    by nyj_et

    Please see my earlier post re: Yankee Haters.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST


    by TheBaxter

    go root for your corporation, i mean, "team", to buy the world series.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST


    by Blade_Runner

    Leno may be dull and boring, but he's laughing all the way to the bank. Anyone really think he cares is his show tanks? I watch him occasionally if there is a guest on that interested me, but for the most part I'll simply watch what one of the other stations is playing. Or better yet, turn the TV off at 10 and read a book.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    NBC might NOT cancel HEROES based on LENO failing

    by YackBacker

    THey're going to need some content and while HEROES is slipping, it still rakes in 3 times as many viewers as LENO. And with 5 hours of programming about to open up, I see a good rationale for NBC to keep HEROES going. They have an established brand... not sure how "profitable" the show is, but it can't be that bad. Mind you, this is coming from someone who has stopped watching HEROES 2 seasons ago, so I'm not cheerleading anything here.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST


    by Subtitles_Off

    Really? You guys do know there's a new SCHMAVATAR trailer to argue about, right?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    I'm sure Leno cares if his show tanks.

    by Chewtoy

    Not only is he a comic entertainer (admittedly a fairly needy profession), but he strikes me as a true professional. I don't think his show is some cynical cash grab for him... I imagine he could retire and never be hurting for money. I do think, however, that it was very shrewd of him to negotiate the deal he made with NBC knowing how risky this whole 10pm experiment would be. So yes, he definitely covered himself in case it flopped... but I'm sure he's emotionally invested in making it work.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Good to see Modern Family up there and where's Supernatural?

    by cromulent

    Modern Family - Very funny show. Wasn't Supernatural on last night? Or is the ratings so low that it's not even worth posting?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    oh nevermind. I'm a DVR zombie! Days have no meaning for me anym

    by cromulent


  • Oct. 30, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Not surprised if Heroes is canceled

    by Rob0729

    Seriously, the ratings are in the toilet and it is an expensive show to produce. Even with some clear cuts in budget with casting (many of the series regulars have not appeared at all or only 1-2 episodes) and special effects (limiting it to 1-2 non-camera trick special effect), it is still a very expensive show to produce because of the cast size and the location (very few reoccuring sets and a lot of locations needs to pretend to be different parts of the world) and special effects needs. <br><br> People have been talking about how much better the show is getting, but personally I don't see it. It is slightly better, but I find the deaf music chick a bore. Robert Knepper who is usually great in everything he is in seems to be mailing it in with a now you hear it, now you don't Irish accent. The whole mutant carnies haven't really paid off either. <br><br> The show seems to have run its course.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST


    by Rob0729

    Heroes is in fourth place for the 8PM hour on Mondays. Even with CBS showing repeats and Fox pulling House for the week, Heroes saw no bump in the ratings. That is horrible for a show that costs as much as Heroes does.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by InstantClassic

    Our 116 win season I'd say is more than you guys have done since the fall prior to that. Enjoy being "upset" by the defending world champs.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST


    by nyj_et

    No team "buys" a championship. Were that true, The Yankees would always win. It's insulting to great teams that have won the World Series with lower payrolls like Philadelphia, Boston and Chicago, that one can only win if they have a huge payroll. Certainly not true. InstantClassic: "upset" by the defending world champs? In any book, beating a reigning World Champion is truly considered an "upset". Unless that World Champion is Buster Douglas. This Yankee fan does not underestimate the incredibly talented Philadelphia Phillies, in fact, I'll tip my cap to Cliff Lee for his Game 1 win. Yankee haters: please read my previous post.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Heroes won't get cancelled.,

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It still makes money for NBC.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Mondays at 8PM is not where HEROES belongs

    by YackBacker

    CBS, Monday Night Football, HOUSE... all of these shows hurt HEROES. If they move it to 10PM they might become more successful.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST


    by Rob0729

    Except House wasn't on this week and MNF had a weak match up Eagles/Redskins along with HIMYM and the other show that follows it being in repeats and it didn't gain a fraction of a point. Not a good sign for them to expect a timeslot change helping them all that much especially if it has to go against CSI:Miami at 10 PM. <br><br> Chuck went up against the same competition at 8PM last year and got better ratings. In fact, it was tougher competition since The Big Bang Theory did better in the 8PM hour than Jenna Elfman's show.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST


    by Rob0729

    Are you sure about that? Will it continue to make money after all the ad orders booked prior to the season started run out and NBC has to sell ad space based on this year's ratings rather than last year's ratings? I kinda doubt it since it is an expensive show and is behind CBS, Fox, ABC, and ESPN in the ratings in the key demos. <br><br> The ONLY way I see Heroes staying is if they accept a huge budget cut. Which may be better since it will force them to trim the cast and focus more on individual storylines rather than multiple storylines.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST


    by InstantClassic

    EVERYTHING I hear from Yankees fans and sports radio is that it's the Phillies who need to come in and beat the Yankees. Like they are the measuring stick right now. They have bought a great team, but they still haven't won anything since 2000. Good for you if you see that it's not some Rocky Balboa story from the Phillies side, but that's far from the norm.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    They need to renew the World Series for a full season

    by jaysin420

    with ratings like that!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST


    by Mennen

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Heroes will be renamed Hero next year

    by Stabby

    because they won't be able to afford an ensemble cast. They already fired all the writers, obviously. Keep the Asian guy: he's cheap and his name is Hiro. Sylar's definitely got to go: no way they can afford that Star Trek movie star bank.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    As a Phillies fan it is refreshing and heartening

    by Stabby

    to see so many talbackers on here who get it about the Yankees. As The Baxter says, "jay leno is like the yankees: they're both overpaid, they both suck, and they both are soon gonna get CANCELLED." Couldn't have said it better myself. Phils in 6!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    i hope Conan gets shitcanned

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    what TRASH is that.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    World Series would be higher if not for Wanda Sykes

    by mjgtexas

    That dyke surpasses Caliendo for unwanted ubiquitous.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    "Leno beaten by reruns of Mayberry R.F.D."

    by ZodNotGod

    Thank you for the Leno hate train! I hate that toothless, hacky chump and I love these daily fail ratings post.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Hercules was raped by Jay Leno

    by torontoxic

    Or maybe some writer from Earl is writing for Leno now who bangs every girl Hercules ever got rejected by (10000's btw. 10000s).

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    YES!!! Go to Hell Leno!!! And Burn Slow!!

    by Onin Solstice

    A hack and a sell out like Leno is finally realizing what happens when you sell your craft for money.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST

    i'm an ardent Leno supporter but....

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    i just saw his interview with John Cusack and on the subject of halloween he goes "would you go out with your sister.... ............... or with your friends" man what an awkwardly worded trainwreck that was. Howabout "would you go trick or treating with your sister or friends?"

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Late Night needs to die

    by lockesbrokenleg

    ALL these fucking Late Night shows are THE SAME. Christ, even a trainwreck like Wanda Sykes has one. THEY NEED TO STOP. Back in the day, there was 2! 2 good ones! Now, they suck ass.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 2:47 a.m. CST


    by American Mythos

    I agree with you about Wanda Sykes. I give her new show a few episodes before it's canceled. She's a good talk show guest and supporting actress in sitcoms, but not good enough to carry her own show. She had one back in 2003 (had to check IMDB just to make sure) that only lasted 9 episodes (called Wanda At Large). I like her, I think she's funny, but I can understand how she might not be everyone's cup o' tea. After seeing how tame Conan has become, I wish Conan had his own late night show on FOX where he could be more loose and even a little vulgar.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Wanda Sykes: i now know what hell sounds like

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    that half-predator has the most searingly annoying voice, with one word, one letter, i feel like i'm going to die by a Scanner.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Conan needs to bring back the Masturbating Bear

    by AngrySnowMonkey

    Screw the Bible-belt. Just bring back the Masturbating Bear. Go for broke.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    The Phillies are a real team

    by BigTuna

    Not like the Yankees. Who spent, what, 400 million in contracts to get to the world series. The Phillies are actually a well run orghanization and sdeserve to win it all. Baseball is a joke. The only league without a salary cap.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    What we need to see

    by daggor

    is the ratings for non-first run cable shows. Is a rerun of "Rosanne" on Nick at Nite beating anything on this list?

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Poor Leno

    by vizui

    His terrible jokes are now making HIM the punchline.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Oh and..

    by vizui

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST

    ^^^^ linke doesn't work try this one \/ \/ \/

    by vizui

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Poor Conan

    by lockesbrokenleg

    All I heard from magazines like EW, and websites was that he was going to change the face of Late Night. And what do I see when I watch it? More shitty animal segments.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Where they messed up with Conan

    by American Mythos

    #1. Moving him to L.A. <br> With the move to L.A., there was this expectation that he was going to get the big guests. But Letterman is in New York and has gotten way better bookings, Obama and Bill Clinton included, and Conan has gotten... Ice-T? Not only is the magic of New York gone, because there's always a certain magic to shows produced in the Big Apple, but Conan doesn't seem at all home in L.A. <br> <br> #2. Conan's remotes <br> When Conan is out on location, his segments are mostly unfunny, and his interactions with real people are cringe-inducingly awkward. He's the kind of personality that seems to thrive in-studio, which is perhaps why most late night hosts, Letterman included, rarely do remotes themselves. They usually send a correspondent. However, Conan's remotes in New York, where he went himself (including the vineyard and the antique stickball remotes), were hilarious. Something was lost in the transition to L.A. <br> <br> #3. The Monologue. <br> Conan's monologues used to be riddled with ridiculous hops, dances (including the hip-string dance), weird gyrations, camera play, and zany banter after a joke bombed. Now that he's been forced to grow up for the sake of the Bible Belt, the signature zaniness has mostly gone. We get a downright repressed-looking Conan who's forced to prop himself in a rigid stance with his hands in his pockets, and who's forced to "just move it along" when a joke bombs. It's only on rare occasions when he gets to play to the camera. Some of his funniest stuff from Late Night included him rowing by the camera, walking up and down imaginary stairs, or attacking the camera and "head butting" it. "Grown up" Conan can't do that. <br> <br> #4. No more fake TV interviews. <br> Remember Late Night's fake interviews with the celebrity heads and the moving lips? Those are all gone. Some of his best stuff was when he interviewed fake guests like Bill Clinton and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Now that he's actually in California, where Arnold is governor, we no longer get that. <br> <br> #5. No more unique characters. <br> In fact, since the new Tonight Show debuted this summer, I haven't seen one character introduced. Characters like the Masturbating Bear and, best of all, Pimp Bot 5000, should be staples of what everyone said would be a new era for the Tonight Show. Instead we get a Conan who's personality is way more likeable than Jay Leno's, but whose toned down "grown up" humor is barely funnier. <br> <br> If allowed to be himself, I think Conan and the Tonight Show could flourish. But that will never happen on a network that prides itself on its mostly wholesome entertainment, a company that has made PG-rated Jay Leno its ambassador to the American audience, and whose last high profile risqué venture was a 1995 interview with Hugh Grant. I always got the sense that Conan's dream in life was to host Johnny Carson's Tonight Show, but, after seeing what he's been reduced to, I think he should have just taken whatever deal the other networks were offering him. He could have been the sole face of Fox's new late night rather than the heir to what Jay Leno sullied for 17 years.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Modern Family just gets better every week

    by DDMAN26

    Still don't know why we don't have a talkback for it.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    having caught most of lenos tonight shows..

    by emeraldboy

    I loved all the characters he did like mr brain. and the way he would crack up Branford marsalis. Leno was funny for two reasons. 1.ed. 2.hall. when ed hall left Leno stopped being funny. the characters vanished. and all leno had were the monologues. what is happening to o'brien. i cant say. but I loved mock the week on the BBC. comedians are being gagged. the pc police have taken over. if oyu dont believe me. ask frankie boyle. who was fired over a joke about olympic Rebbeca adlington.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    "Still don't know why we don't have a talkback for it."

    by jim

    We do, it's the one that lists the previous night's ratings for the show.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    He could always interview his Simpsons writers

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Why dud Conan bring back Andy any way?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    All he does is stand at a podium all night.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    speaking of wanda sykes..

    by emeraldboy

    I saw thing on tv. a couple of years ago. I cant recall what it was. but bill cosby was in the audience. but wanda sykes walked over to him and stuck a microphone in his face and asked him what he thought of young comics. cosby looked like he was going to explode.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST


    by nyj_et

    Nobody spends $400 million to get to the World Series. You might spend $400 million on talent, but you can't buy your way to the World Series. By the way, The Yankees haven't suddenly upped their payroll for a big push to a World Championship. They've been doing this for the past decade, but haven't won one since 2000. So that really hasn't been working out to well. I suppose it's fashionable to bash The Yankees and covet their wealth. It's also en vouge, once again, to start bitching about the lack of salary cap. Let me ask you this: If A-Rod could no longer make $25 million, he'd have to settle for $13, don't you think he'd still play for The Yankees? The best players are still going to want to play where baseball matters. A salary cap hasn't helped the Detroit Lions or the Cleveland Browns compete for a SuperBowl. Teams that suck without a salary cap would find ways to continue to suck with it. The Yankees would still win championships. So would The Phillies, Red Sox, White Sox, and Angels. Just like in the NFL, it'll usually be The Patriots, The Steelers, Cowboys, Giants and Packers. These teams that are consistently good have little to do with what they are paying their talent.