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Massawyrm admonishes the bully porn that is GENTLEMEN BRONCOS!!

Published at:  Oct 29, 2009 9:55:53 AM CDT

Hola all. Massawyrm here.



If you’re going to make a movie within a movie that is supposed to be utterly ridiculous satire – and never for a moment what anyone would dare to call good - then it is of the utmost importance that this sequence not be more engaging than the movie surrounding it. In the case of GENTLEMEN BRONCOS it is. And no, that’s not meant to be a compliment. There is more wit and understanding of genre fiction to be found in Muse’s brilliant KNIGHTS OF CYDONIA music video than in the breadth and whole of this miserable turd which seems only to be a spoof on the very video. And while it is bad enough that this entire film is a slap in the face to genre fans everywhere, it has much lower to sink before it plumbs the bottom of the barrel.



Jared Hess doesn’t make comedies. He makes Bully Porn. His characters, devoid of any likable qualities whatsoever, serve only to mope around pathetically, dressed in the hand-me-down isn’t it ironic clothing of the late 1980’s, to be laughed at for how miserable, lowly and despicably uninteresting they are. By us. The bullies. You see, this is supposed to be funny. We’re supposed to giggle and chortle at the mom who wants nothing more from life than to make nightgowns for a living, or the indie-from-home filmmaker who grins like he’s had reconstructive facial surgery. That’s funny, right?



Yeah. Hilarious. And just wait until you get to the part where the diarrheic snake shits down the front of someone’s shirt. Magical.



The trouble with the comedy of this film is threefold. The first problem is that Hess makes this movie as if the internet never existed. That is to say that he thinks it’s funny to see actors dressed ironically while most people prefer to see it online when worn by someone who thinks they look good wearing it. Like many a joke that people laugh at when they hear it as truth, it’s only funny if it happened. Problem two is that Hess doesn’t put adult jokes in his movies. Instead he sticks to grade school humor that stops just sort of character’s uttering the phrase “Heh heh. You said BUTT.” The fact that this line was omitted here shocks me and I wouldn’t be surprised in the least to hear that it will turn up in a deleted scene on the DVD. Once you see the lead character selling popcorn balls in pairs in plastic bags, you’ll know what I mean.



Lastly, and worst of all, he is working in the field of satire here, but seems to have only a passing understanding of the genre he is mocking. This seems to be a classic case of parodying Sci-fi in defiance of Sturgeon’s Revelation –that sure, 90% of science fiction is crud, but 90% of everything is crud. Hess seems to weave together one of the very worst science fiction stories ever imagined while pretending that this is somehow indicative of sci-fi as well as what sci-fi fans want. The universe his characters exist in buys this as a brilliant work of fiction while we’re left to laugh at the mushroom farming transvestites who ride missile-launching woodland creatures. And while every bit of it is terrible, it is far and away better than watching Hess mock wimps, sycophants and unfulfilled single mothers.



There are a number of conventions that one could easily satirize in sci-fi; in fact it has long been a hobby of sci-fi fans to, you know, satirize them. So when someone like Hess comes along to make a few jokes, he comes across like the douchebag in ROXANNE who calls Steve Martin “bignose.” It elicits – especially in genre fans – an immediate “Really, that’s the best you could come up with?” response that is insulting on a number of levels, but mostly because he didn’t bother to put much thought into it. Really, Jared? Missile-launching deer and magic mushroom powers? While this is exactly the type of story one could see coming from a middle school writer, the idea that this is supposed to be some kind of genius hit becomes one of the more baffling points of the film. It seems to say “Look at the science fiction dorks. AREN’T THEY FUNNY?”



Hess even seems to loathe his own protagonist and delights in torturing him. When he finally gets around to bringing this pathetic story to its inevitable conclusion, he only seems to side with his hero because A) he has to and B) he hates the antagonist even more. The finale is so lazy and cheap, it only serves to punctuate the fact that the main character is never pro-active once in the entire film, except to throw a violent, childish tantrum. From a storytelling point of view, this has a lot in common with RUSHMORE and, in the hands of a competent filmmaker, could have been a sharp story of one-upmanship between an adult story-thief and the “helpless” kid who has to fight back any way he can. Lord knows he had the right cast to make that. But Jared Hess is no Wes Anderson and possesses neither the wit nor the understanding of his craft to create likable, complicated and still completely awkward characters.



Everyone here is simply awkward for the sake of being so, so you can sit back and laugh at people worse off than you. It’s bully porn, pure and simple; a feel good film for those that are happy only to not be as bad off as the guy on screen. To say that I hated this movie doesn’t go quite far enough. This film made me angry. It punished me for something I did in a past life that I don’t even fucking remember. Whatever it was, it was bad. Like John Wilkes Booth bad, if John Wilkes Booth had also groped Mrs. Lincoln before jumping down from the balcony and landing on a box of kittens. While I share no love for NAPOLEON DYNAMITE or NACHO LIBRE, they didn’t quite upset me the way that this did. It is lazy, sub-juvenile, and thoroughly uninteresting.



Unless you’re already on the Jared Hess bully bus, this sure as hell isn’t going to do anything for you and should be avoided at all costs.






Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em.

Massawyrm



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  • Oct 29, 2009 9:58:21 AM CDT

    Well, this is dissapointing.

    by dharma4

    The review might be accurate, but I still wanna see it. I don't mind some wry humour. And can't be any worse than the shit of "Year One?"
    (first?)

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  • Oct 29, 2009 9:58:39 AM CDT

    The trailer looked idiotic

    by zargotron

    I have no idea what people see in Napoleon Dynamite.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 9:58:42 AM CDT

    good

    by beyondthunderdome2girls1cupbillcosby

  • Oct 29, 2009 10:03:53 AM CDT

    So the Napolean Dynamite director is still making movies?

    by rev_skarekroe

    I assumed he'd just vanish like the Blair Witch guys did.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:14:17 AM CDT

    I can't trust this review....

    by chakraborty

    ...because it was obviously written by someone who took a personal affront to the targets of the this movie's humor. But I myself have thought "People still admit to playing dungeon's and dragons?" when I witnessed a few such Massa-related articles at this site. The movie didn't look very good from the trailer, but I need further proof.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:22:35 AM CDT

    Hipsters

    by mr.ftw

    Hipsters are the target audience for Hess and all his crap. This is just for the people who like all the Adult Swim/Williams Street show and stuff like the Mighty Boosh. The mentality that everything is dumb, stupid and beneath them and this stuff is only cool in an ironic way. I can not wait until hipster chic dies.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:25:11 AM CDT

    Not exactly satire

    by redundant23

    Hess's films are not exactly satire, are they? Satire has a clear target, and Hess's films don't seem to aim for anything in particular. Is NAPOLEON DYNAMITE a satire of high school life? Of geeks or unpopular teens? Of American trailer-trash culture? Of radically strange families? Of class elections? Exaggerations abound in the film, but no clear target exists. The end result is less satire than surrealism. I haven't seen BRONCOS, but I've read interviews with Hess, who is himself a science fiction fan, and your comments seem to me off-track. Of course, maybe Hess's film just isn't to your taste. Doesn't mean others won't like it, though.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:28:07 AM CDT

    Hipsters

    by affleckwasthebomb

    Aren't they the same target audience for Wes Anderson movies? I don't see them showing everything being dumb stupid and beneath them? And if you knew any thing about the Mighty Boosh guys then you'd know they aren't hipster. Noel Fielding especially is all about surrealism. I don't even like the Boosh.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:35:33 AM CDT

    someone was picked on as a kid.....

    by stormshadow4life

    i wonder who

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:36:26 AM CDT

    Here's the Problem With The Review

    by chaplinatemyshoe

    You're confusing silliness with meanness. Jared Hess is silly. His comedies are silly. If you feel mean it is because you don't find silliness funny. If you like a silly comedy, you will probably like this movie. I equate it to a camp skit where everyone acts like an idiot to try to make you laugh. The idea that Hess is trying to target any actual demographic to ridicule or trying to make satire is like ridiculous. He's just trying to make a silly movie, one that actually works fairly decently for the first 45 minutes, I might add.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:37:22 AM CDT

    I am ON that bus!

    by thot

    LOVED Napoleon Dynamite and Nacho Libre. Hess' absurdist sense of humour kills me. I'll definitely be in line when it opens. Bring on the bully porn!!

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:42:47 AM CDT

    Massa,

    by god's brother

    I almost NEVER agree with your reviews, but I gotta say, they are almost always nicely written. Good job. Can't wait to see this film and disagree with everything you've said.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:45:32 AM CDT

    Napoleon and Libre are not bully porn.

    by jimmay

    I can't speak for this film yet having not seen it, but Massa is saying all of his films are bully-porn. You see Napoleon and Nacho treated like crap so you can identify them as the underdog. That's what Hess makes, underdog comedies. Without first showing the cards stacked against them, the subsequent overcoming of their woes in the final act would be meaningless, wouldn't it? It's interesting, too, that he brought up Andersen. Indeed, with the lone exception of Rushmore and Bottle Rocket, that's what I hate about his films--he has awkward, in some way nerdy characters, who are nonetheless privileged and seem to face no social stigma whatsoever for being so weird. It's hopelessly unrealistic, and if Hess is "bully porn" than Andersen must be "awkward porn."

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:47:13 AM CDT

    As someone who likes a few things on Adult Swim...

    by killdozer

    and even The Mighty Boosh, I can confidently say that Hess is not making movies for me, at least not anymore.I really enjoyed Napoleon Dynamite, but couldn't stand Nacho Libre and this latest just looked bad from the first trailer.Nice review Massawyrm.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:47:41 AM CDT

    So it isn't as good as Ghosts of Girlfriends Past

    by rhinosaur

    How can anyone trust any of your reviews?

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:49:42 AM CDT

    Affleckwasthebomb

    by mr.ftw

    I'm not saying that the guys behind Boosh are hipsters but the people who are attracted to that show are. Anderson's movies fall prey to that too.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:50:25 AM CDT

    Also

    by mr.ftw

    Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:51:41 AM CDT

    The problem with the review is I have no idea...

    by flickapoo

    ...what you're talking about. Never heard of this movie or the director.I managed to gather that this might be the NAPOLEON DYNAMITE guy.The list of grievances seems reasonable, but this is the third paragraph of a review...minus the first, second, and fourth.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 10:57:30 AM CDT

    Flickapoo

    by god's brother

    Isn't that more a problem of yours, rather than the review's? If you've never heard of a film that's being reviewed on a website, wouldn't your first course of action be to google that shit?

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:02:59 AM CDT

    God's Brother...

    by flickapoo

    ...a review usually gives you some sort of context...a hint of plot, theme, something other than a list of complaints.This review is one side of the conversation you have in the car on the way home after seeing the movie. Problem is, we haven't seen it yet and have no fucking idea what the rant is about.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:13:04 AM CDT

    THANK you Massa, finally someone says it well

    by samizdat

    This is the exact thing I've always tried to articulate regarding Hess's films, ever since I first saw Napoleon Dynamite. He's a bully, reducing his audience to being the people who laugh while the bully pushes the nerdy kid up against the locker and knocks off his glasses. We're supposed to high five each other and go, "haha, NERDS, am i right?!?!" - and his endings only side with the protagonist, in my opinion, as a way of justifying everything that's come before. Like, oh, it's cool, we all like the underdog at the end for five minutes, so laughing at him/them/us/the film is no big deal! Inexcusable and worst of all, shitty film-making.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:14:23 AM CDT

    "NOW it's personal!"

    by major hockshtetter

    Massawyrm, my friend, methinks Mr. Hess may had hit you a little hard in the breadbasket... a little too close to home, perhaps? The trailer slayed me and Napoleon and Nacho both were terrific. At least you've helped finalize who I WON'T be going to this movie with... my uber-self-obsessed genre fiend friends who'd rather spend a day painting a miniature figurine than conversing and laughing and thinking and fucking. :D

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:16:00 AM CDT

    *sigh*

    by ptf-b

    Massawyrm, your reviews are so one-sided, no matter what that side might be depending on which side of the bed you woke up on, that they are generally useless. Take a step back before you go off. Calm the fuck down. (And I disagree with your overall impression of Hess as a filmmaker. I think he is intriguing because of the fact that his films are so hard to pin down. They are about losers, but not in a mean way at all. In fact, his characters become endearing in their own off kind of way.)

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:39:17 AM CDT

    But How Do You Really Feel?

    by alen smithee

    Yikes man. I'll certainly think twice about this one, maybe even just watch the screener for a couple of min.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:43:14 AM CDT

    Wait a minute....

    by chakraborty

    ...so is Better Off Dead considered bully porn? One of the greatest teen angst comedies of the 80's? Cusack's character gets royally shit on but wins in the end...that doesn't mean that everyone who enjoys the movie is a bully who like to see him get shit on. You have to separate yourself from these things.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:55:08 AM CDT

    Irony of the review

    by wyld stallyns rules

    Is that it sounds like the kind of over-stated, knee-jerk bitter dork reaction that one of Hess's characters would have to being made fun of. I've learned to expect moments of awful exaggeration from Massawyrm, but this one is pretty special. John Wilkes Boothe jumping onto a box of kittens? Sounds like someone wrote bad sci-fi stories in high school.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:55:15 AM CDT

    I wouldn't say that.

    by darkman

    NAPOLEON DYNAMITE seems a bit more based in reality than BETTER OFF DEAD. The reality makes the suffering unpalatable.

    But in a world where a guy's drawings come to life and bust his balls, paperboys chase after you in the night and expressing shame about throwing out a perfectly good white boy, how can it be anything but hilarious?

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  • Oct 29, 2009 12:28:38 PM CDT

    DO THE CHICKENS HAVE LARGE TALONS?

    by mr spork

  • Oct 29, 2009 12:33:58 PM CDT

    This review is incomprehensible

    by dr. chim richalds

    Flickapoo is right - it seems like the first few introductory paragraphs are missing. I've never seen a review open with, "If you're going to make a movie within a movie..."

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  • Oct 29, 2009 12:36:35 PM CDT

    Porn.

    by johnnyangel

    I only read this review because the word "porn" was in the title. What a waste of time.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 12:41:36 PM CDT

    This just in!

    by loosejerk

    White Supremists don't like Gentlemen Broncos.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 12:41:37 PM CDT

    I was kinda lost too

    by buffywrestling

    I've never heard of the movie or seen a promo for it, so I don't know what it's about. Still don't.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 12:42:48 PM CDT

    Wow, Massa

    by big_daddy_nero

    That's definitely not good. I have been cracking up at this movie's previews, and the little featurettes are very funny too. Not a word about Sam Rockwell? Nothing? I am afraid I am going to have to side with the people calling you out on this one (barring actually seeing the movie) for taking it wayyy too personally. So this movie reminded you of being picked on, called names, or treated as some sort of ridiculed outcast when you were a wee little wyrm. Ok, we get it. But this looks like a review about your own insecurities, not the actual movie. I was no huge fan of Napoleon Dynamite, and I have not managed to sit through all of Nacho Libre. His movies apparently don't suit my taste particularly well, but I will at least be giving Broncos a chance, on DVD if nothing else, and from what I have seen in his other movies and from this trailer, I don't find myself being forced to ridicule my younger self, as you obviously do. And yet there I was, junior high and high school, painting a little lead Bard, rolling 20-sided dice, reading Alan Dean Foster books, learning to play chess, doing the same lame creative writing, and, from the previews anyway, it looks more like a sort of an homage to the surreal memories I have lurking in the past, and not trying to humiliate me for them. Maybe you are right, but man the previews and your review do NOT match. Anyway, try to destroy the movie if you want, it's not like it was ever going to make a dime anyway, it's just too weird, but if it turns out to be mostly likable, then youse gonna have some splainin to do, mon.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 1:16:41 PM CDT

    You're not supposed to laugh at them..

    by aotf


    You're supposed to related to them and feel their pain. How could you watch one of his movies and think, "Oh, a movie for BULLIES!"? Honestly, you must be very cold-hearted to think the movies are made for bullies who want to laugh at the less fortunate.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 1:43:23 PM CDT

    Are you retarded? Sam Rockwell.

    by rorschach1

    Sam Rockwell is playing the fantasy story's changing protagonist, Bronco. Sam Rockwell doesn't do trash. Period. I guarantee there is something more to this movie. The Story: Kid writes bizarre fantasy to escape his less than happy life. Famous writer (Jemaine freaking Clement) picks it up and uses it and people love it because it's from him. That part actually happens, i.e. Stephen King (not bashing his books, just stating that people pick things up with his name.) You don't laugh at the fact someone gets pushed. You laugh because of how they react. I think his movies work pretty well. Not genius but his humor works. The childish jokes work better in this scenario than really deep ones. Plus, who decided he should be put on the same level as Wes Anderson? That's just stupid. Anderson's a film genius, Hess doesn't even want to be considered. In terms of sex, it's like putting John Holmes with the Pope. One knows a lot more. (The Pope obviously.)

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  • Oct 29, 2009 1:45:00 PM CDT

    Massa brings more baggage to his reviews than Harry...

    by p0llk4t

    Bully Porn? Seriously? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read on AICN. And you probably patted yourself on the back for coining that witty insightful phrase. You make Harry look calm and reserved with that shit box of a review.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 1:52:23 PM CDT

    I guess it just depends

    by screwbini

    I laughed a lot watching Napoleon Dynamite, but not once at Nacho Libre. But neither struck me as so-called "bully porn." I was actually pulling for Napoleon throughout the movie more than I was looking down on him for being a nerd.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 1:52:57 PM CDT

    Trust him, people - I've seen this turd

    by archlight

    Massa's right. My gf and I saw this at a preview at the Arclight quite a while ago, and it was the most depressing, amateurish POS I've ever been roped into. Of the many problems with GB, I'd say the first is "Lack of jokes." Nothing funny happens, or is said. Whatever the director was going for isn't working, because the members-only jackets and late 80's fashion aren't funny to anyone who's ever seen...ya know...the internet.

    Problem number two is probably the director's unrelenting meanness towards his characters. It's awkward failure after awkward failure and the main character is so totally unlikeable that you feel being asked to laugh at him, to root against him, just as Massa claims.

    The third prob with GB is the story structure itself. It *is* like a Wes Anderson movie in that all of the characters in the story come around at the end for "A big show." But if your life were a grim parade of torture, why would you invite your torturers, people who've ripped you off and hurt you *AS RECENTLY AS THE PREVIOUS SCENE*, to come help you? It makes no sense and is incredibly lazy writing. When it was over, the gf and I literally went looking for Jered Hess. To punch him in the face before the focus group started.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 2:13:38 PM CDT

    When did the change come?

    by monkmayfair

    Now all the movies, tv shows, and commercials are working under the premise that awkward is the new funny. If it's in the blend of a character, maybe, but it can't be the whole package....

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  • Oct 29, 2009 2:28:57 PM CDT

    I have no doubt this movie is dumb.

    by liesandpicturesofalsolies

    But Bully porn? Come on.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 2:30:43 PM CDT

    Do the folks objecting to the term "bully porn"...

    by some dude

    ... on the grounds that you aren't supposed to identify with the bullies, but rather the victims, also say the same for so-called "torture porn"?

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  • Oct 29, 2009 3:00:37 PM CDT

    Inspiringly bad review-

    by tronknotts

    Really, someone needs to talk with guy who wrote this review. It's not a review; it's an editorial on an entire genre of comedy, and a misplaced one at that.

    As for the "bully porn" idea, it's certainly applies to some movies (and episodes of Saved by the Bell) but not to Jared Hess movies. All of Napoleon Dynamit's main characters (Napoleon, Pedro, Kip, Rico, and Deb) are all good natured, relatable people. It's the movie's bullies (Summer and Co.) that seem like dicks, and ultamitely "lose" in the end. Same with Nacho Libre; very likable protagonists (excpet for annoying Jack Black-singing scene) very detestable bullies. Good guys win, bullies lose.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 3:02:28 PM CDT

    Is anyone else enjoying the irony...

    by massawyrm 1

    ...that I wrote about a mean spirited, interminably shitty film that seems to bully its characters...and in its defense, a bunch of cyber douches are calling me a dork and assuming I must have been somehow deeply scarred as a child? I especially love the guy who lives in an alternate universe in which G-FORCE does not exist and came across the multi-verse divide to tell me that Sam Rockwell never makes shitty movies where he comes from. Thanks visitor from beyond!

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  • Oct 29, 2009 3:03:23 PM CDT

    Jared Hess hasn't made one fucking good movie.

    by glory_fades_immaxfischer

  • Oct 29, 2009 3:13:46 PM CDT

    I wasn't so much rejecting your view on this film, massa

    by jimmay

    Again, I haven't seen it. But you also back-smeared the Hess catalog if you will. And I simply disagree.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 3:28:51 PM CDT

    jimmay

    by massawyrm 1

    You weren't one of the folks I was talking about. Your criticism was a solid defense of Hess's work. While I disagree, you never stooped to "Haha! Massa's a dork and got butthurt!" You weren't the droid I was looking for. ;)

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  • Oct 29, 2009 3:28:58 PM CDT

    IT SUCKED? WHAT A SHOCK!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I could tell that by the title.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 4:07:25 PM CDT

    I don't get the hate

    by captainbass

    I think this looks awesome. Jemaine Clement & Sam Rockwell = winning combination, surely? Then again, it might be shite. I loved "Napoleon Dynamite" but thought "Nacho Libre" was crap. Just have to wait and see I suppose.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 4:08:48 PM CDT

    Massa , I beg to differ

    by 2leggedfreak

    I haven't seen GB but I have seen Napoleon Dynamite and Nacho Libre and in both films the "Nerds" were absolutely sympathetic characters who you could get behind from the get go. Perhaps your problem is that you think Hess painting folk as not quite fitting the "norm" is him bullying them. My view is that its more of a "here's some oddball characters but in their own way don't they each have something about them to admire regardless of whether they fit with convetion."

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  • Oct 29, 2009 4:41:14 PM CDT

    Way to be even remotely objective

    by shepherd

    Reviews aren't for you, there for us. If you wanted to complain about the film, maybe you should have blogged about it. However, since I actually liked Napolean Dynamite, I find this completely useless.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 4:43:45 PM CDT

    Sci-fi fans

    by oregontrail

    Perhaps it hit too close to home for ya big guy?
    I don't feel a need to laugh at the characters he creates, they are part of me. From a small town, not rolling in the bucks, but I'm still sure enough of myself to know when someone is trafficking BS. I don't feel the need to be superior to them, hell Napolean Dynamite captured more of my Jr. High years than any Kevin Smith crap did of real life in my 20's. And we all know that Smith is now directing only for a living, so I can only imagine what treats we have in store...
    I'll give this a chance. If it sucks, it will suck as a film, not because it unnerved my feelings about myself.
    (this reminds me of the early crit of Fargo. I was in MN at the time and many local critics saw it as making fun of the region. Instead of appreciating the POV.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 5:24:25 PM CDT

    I liked Napolean Dynamite...

    by chakraborty

    ...not just the movie, but the character, and I wanted him to do well. But at the same time, it would be hard not to see why he gets picked on. And I think all of us knew someone like Napolean Dynamite in school, that's partly why I think it resonated so much. But, yeah, it's clear to see why he's a magnet for bullies in the film, but I don't see it as a film that paints the bullies in a good light, or makes them admirable. Napolean is the hero, and you end up liking and caring about him, even though on the surface before you get a chance to know him, you would probably regard him the same way others who consider him weird would. I wouldn't call that film Bully Porn...and not just because that term is silly.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 5:41:35 PM CDT

    Can we nip the "____ Porn" trend in the bud?

    by madisonmanx

    Torture Porn? Bully Porn? It would actually be cooler to go back to using Hella. Stop it.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 6:18:22 PM CDT

    Offended!

    by major hockshtetter

    Yes, as a regular viewer and fan of actual porn, I'm utterly offended by the overuse and misuse of the term. Now knock it off people!

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  • Oct 29, 2009 6:20:12 PM CDT

    Massa, I felt the exact way you describe..

    by subtlety

    About NAPOLEON DYNAMITE. It was like watching a youtube video which would be funny for a few minutes if it wasn't obviously staged. As it is, there doesn't seem much sport in actively creating character that we can make fun of. Still, I thought NACHO LIBRE was a little kinder to its protagonist and more tolerable for that reason (and had a few, you know, jokes in it, although it's also borderline racist, which makes it a little harder to swallow). Guess I won't be seeing this one, though.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 6:48:11 PM CDT

    TB Porn

    by macready452

    Jared Porn and his new film Gentlemen Pornos is not as good as his previous films Napornian Dynapron and Porno Libre. Sam Pornwell has been in far greater porns. I wish the porno they were making in the porno was not as good as the actual porno I was watching. In conclusion, PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN PORN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Oct 29, 2009 7:18:49 PM CDT

    TB porn was the David Carradine obit...

    by flickapoo

    ...a feeding fucking frenzy. And everyone felt dirty and used...and a little sleepy.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 7:20:41 PM CDT

    Napoleon Dynamite sucks

    by drewlicious

    None of these characters were remotely sympathetic. I'll admit there are kids out there like Napoleon, outcasts who aren't even pleasant to be around even when you get to know them, that doesn't mean I want to watch him for 90 minutes. This movie was so terrible I'm ashamed to admit I laughed at one part of this movie (the time machine, okay that was funny.)

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  • Oct 29, 2009 7:34:25 PM CDT

    Napoleon Dynamite?

    by sgt.steiner

    Overrated. Nacho Libre? Underrated.
    Hector Jimenez as Esqueleto the atheist is hysterical: "I hate orphans!" And that whole vision quest to find the eagle egg was gloriously weird.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 7:41:40 PM CDT

    "The wisdom of a man."

    by macready452

    "How much you wanna bet I can throw a football over them mountains?" So fuckin absurd it can't not be funny.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 7:45:50 PM CDT

    Jon Gries best in?????????????

    by macready452

    Real Genius, The Monster Squad, Running Scared, Napolean Dynamite, Lost. Here is a hint.. It's not Lost.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 8:31:39 PM CDT

    No offense Massawyrm,

    by one9deuce

    but you are completely wrong about the intentions of Jared Hess. The bullied characters triumph in the end. It's not exactly difficult to understand.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 8:55:20 PM CDT

    Sci fi nerds will always be funny.

    by ebonic_plague

    I wallow in the shit too (as does anyone who posts here) but if you can't recognize the humor inherent in a room full of LARPing nerds or obsessive sci fi geeks, I just can't trust your sense of humor. All comedy is based, at least in part, on someone's suffering.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 9:10:48 PM CDT

    Here is a joke not at someones expense

    by macready452

    *fart noise* hahahhahahahhaahhahahahahahah. To bad it is considered the lowest form of comedy.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 9:44:26 PM CDT

    Jared Hess stole the name Napoleon Dynamite

    by drmanhattansunit

    http://bit.ly/kabER - he refuses to credit Elvis Costello, who invented the name in the 80's.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 9:58:48 PM CDT

    GAY.

    by switzerland

  • Oct 29, 2009 9:58:53 PM CDT

    I loved...

    by the zapper

    the comment regarding the "bignose" guy from Roxanne. Gold.

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  • Oct 29, 2009 11:08:24 PM CDT

    Glad someone hated Napolean as much as I did

    by kevinmuller

    This review perfectly sums up what I felt for that retarded film

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  • Oct 30, 2009 1:36:36 AM CDT

    I hated ND too

    by lockesbrokenleg

    All my friends told me to watch it. I did. My Gods, that's a shitty movie. Just shitty. Ugh. Morons love that shit, though.

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  • Oct 30, 2009 3:24:50 AM CDT

    MacReady452

    by yodalovesyou

    Is the answer Get Shorty?

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  • Oct 30, 2009 5:52:46 AM CDT

    Kick-Ass.

    by ptsdpete

  • Oct 30, 2009 6:35:16 AM CDT

    I hated Nacho Libre.

    by ptsdpete

    'Napoleon Dynamite' puts me off.
    And I could see why Massa would think of 'Gentlemen Broncos's 'comedy' as awful. Lotsa people tend to mistake 'endurance' for 'sense of humour', and that just leads to bad form. So that's pretty spot-on observation, yeah. Though, if there is stuff out there that fits the title of 'Bully Porn' more than anyone else's nowadays, it's the work of the 'South Park' guys.

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  • Oct 30, 2009 8:08:11 AM CDT

    Asberger's Syndrome

    by chakraborty

  • Oct 30, 2009 8:28:18 AM CDT

    Jared Hess doesn’t make comedies. He makes Bully Porn

    by the_ad_wizard_who_came_up_with_this_one

    Stopped reading after that, so the Massa dislikes everything Hess does, why do i need to read 10000 words on the subject?

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  • Oct 30, 2009 8:37:58 AM CDT

    really? it looks pretty funny to me..

    by the_crimson_king

    Ronald Chevalier is to sci-fi what Garth Marenghi is to horror, still I'll probably wind up just seeing this on video anyway (for the record, I've never seen Napoleon Dynamite or Nacho Libre)

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  • Oct 30, 2009 10:19:49 AM CDT

    Stop the presses!

    by borishumphrey

    SciFi lovin, RPG playin dork hates movie that makes fun of dorks! How quaint.

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  • Oct 30, 2009 11:49:44 AM CDT

    Maybe Hess should've lampooned Manga fans

    by 0007

    that or hardcore gamers, because both groups do drool over ridiculous story conceits like missile-launching deer and magic mushroom powers that completely pull you out of the story.

    "63 Warlock skull-power rings! Cool!"

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  • Oct 30, 2009 2:19:55 PM CDT

    I'm not sure I know what a hipster is...

    by snallyg

    I mean, I think I sort of know- ironic t-shirts, flight of the conchords,etc. but I always just saw it as a leftover fashion sense from the 90s. Do they share a different worldview? I don't really know many, but some of the girls can be kind of hot, no?

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  • "That is to say that he thinks it’s funny to see actors dressed ironically while most people prefer to see it online when worn by someone who thinks they look good wearing it. Like many a joke that people laugh at when they hear it as truth, it’s only funny if it happened."

    I honestly have no idea what this means.

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  • Oct 30, 2009 2:50:42 PM CDT

    Knights of Cydonia

    by jumping windows

    Thanks for mentioning that. I would rather watch that video on a continuous loop for two hours than anything by Jared Hess. I want an Uncle Rico movie, without Jared Hess directing. Now that shit would be hilarious. Muse = Life. Fuck the Twilight hangers-on! Bring on Dark Tower, Lindelof!!

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  • Oct 30, 2009 5:58:12 PM CDT

    Best thing about Gentlemen Broncos is that through

    by creasybear

    the talkbacks, I was sent to Garth Marenghi's Dark Place on Youtube, which is hilarious.

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  • Oct 30, 2009 7:28:13 PM CDT

    PORRRRRRN

    by misterfurly

    i fucking hate these new dumb ass terms "toture porn" "bully porn"...?? stop adding "porn" as a descriptive word please. its almost as bad as harry's stupid ass "bug nuts" lame aicn slang.

    anyhow i got picked on and played DnD and love sci fi and this movie looks fucking funny, jared hess made two great pretty original comedies.

    massa worm likes shitty matthew mcchawhwvter comedies, so his opinion means zero to me. he just got his nerd trenchcoat in a bundle and made invalid arguments about hess's work.fucking wes anderson makes the same goddamn movie over and over with the same cast and some fucking kinks songs. big woop. mass you suck and your a shitty reviewer.

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  • Oct 30, 2009 8:22:54 PM CDT

    Gentlemen, please...

    by darkman

    If anything, WELCOME TO THE DOLLHOUSE is bully porn.

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  • Oct 31, 2009 8:00:08 AM CDT

    It's a dramatization of THE DRIVE, Cleveland, Jan. '87.

    by sal_bando

    Orson Mobely never had it so bad.

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  • Nov 01, 2009 5:18:53 AM CST

    you're welcome CreasyBear

    by the_crimson_king

  • Jan 21, 2010 2:36:52 AM CST

    THANK YOU MASSAWYRM!

    by afg1988

    Couldn't have said it more better myself. This film too angered me at the fact it wuz cheap and it had members of my audience claping and laughing at those scenes of poo darting and all of that stupid shit, only to come out of the movie saying "oh my god that was bad" or "this was fucking stupid" It was a bit rough that I was at a screening moderated by an AICN member and he seemed a bit down on this film (by down he had little to no enthuasim for this film b4 showing it to the audience in chicago) but I didn't like the film at all. I chuckled at Nacho Libre a few times, disliked the hell out of N-Dynamite. So overall, Jared Hess is definitely someone I will not willingly watch another film from.

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