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A Deleted Scene From Abrams' STAR TREK Is Now Online!! Nero -vs- Klingons!!

Published at: Oct. 28, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST by merrick

Merrick here...
This'll be on the forthcoming DVD/Blu-Ray of J.J.'s TREK movie. Here's a deleted scene showing Romulan Nero in Klingon captivity on Rura Penthe (the prison place Kirk & McCoy went to in STAR TREK VI). Nero stating "The wait is over"...seen in the film's promos but not in the actual theatrical release...comes from this sequence. This comes to us via Spike TV. Behold!!!

Star Trek - DVD Bonus Footage

The film is up for preorder HERE. Although it's still a few weeks from home video release Stateside, the title is already showing up in a few countries overseas.

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  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    first

    by sherlock_junior

    fight

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Nero Bourne

    by SoylentGreenOnACracker

    Kickin ass and takin names.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Is it just jumpy because my computer sucks, or is it just unfini

    by Alfeetoe

    And if they're Klingons, why have no Klingon speak whatsoever?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Still a bad movie.

    by Ingeld

    Can someone tell me how sucking the Romulan sun into a black hole created by red goo would save Romulus?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Sweet.

    by Mennen

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    poo

    by xevoid

    I can see why it was deleted. Poo.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    But surely....

    by donkey_lasher

    ...the deleted scenes should offer solutions to all the plotholes in this mediocre mess?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Bring SHATNER back.

    by Mennen

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Did they keep the helmets on so as not to show -

    by Professor_Monster

    which Klingons they went with. Plus - Nero would not have had a chance against the newer Klingons.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    KIRK had the WORST DEATH in CINEMATIC HISTORY!

    by Mennen

    BRING HIM BACK!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Love the choice of helmets over the stupid facial bumps

    by obi12kenobi

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    C'mon JJ - Be cool - KIRK'S AN ICON!

    by Mennen

    Bring him back for us.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    But yeah I would have preferred to hear a foreign language to en

    by obi12kenobi

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    This movie made such little sense...

    by Chewtoy

    It was fun, don't get me wrong, mostly from tone and an enjoyable cast... but man, was the story a mess, and such a bad retread of Kirk/Khan with Spock/Nero.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    BOTH Klingon-types should be shown

    by sapno_krei

    I would love to see bumpy forehead Klingons *and* human-looking Klingons, all wearing those gold shirts from TOS. Would make for some nice continuity. (The lack of forehead bumps, *was* explained on Enterprise, BTW)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    BUT WHAT ABOUT THE AGONY BOOTH?

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    i mean squid

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Yeah, sort of cool, but not long enough

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    or in depth enough to be saved for the film. As much as I loved the movie, the only criticism I had was that without reading the pre-movie comic-book I wouldn't have gotten a lot of Nero's motivation. <p> I also appreciate finding a mid-point between the show Klingon's and the Movie/TNG-and-on Klingon's, but he should have just gone one way. Which isn't to say that they couldn't be ridged under there. What was Enterprise's explanation for going smooth? I never watched the show so didn't find out. A virus or something? </p>

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Wow, Nero did have more than a 15 minute part.

    by Jayemel

    I see why the scene was deleted though. That guy playing the Klingon didn't give too great of a performance.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    AsimovVents in...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    3... <p> <p> 2... <p> <p> 1...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is going to have a shit fit.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Badly written, acted, shot and directed

    by kwisatzhaderach

    No wonder it was cut out. That film was such a piece of shit. Can't believe so many of you got suckered in.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Great movie.

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    For all its flaws. Magnificently done, brilliantly performed. So there y'are. <p> <p> The Kirk/Khan Spock/Nero parallels never occurred to be before but - yeah, good point! Second-best Trek behind Khan - maybe even a tie.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    I don't think it was deleted because of performances...

    by Chewtoy

    I think it was deleted because it makes even less sense than leaving no explanation for what Nero was doing for the two decades Kirk was growing up.<br><br> This would have us believe he's been held prisoner by Klingons for 20 years, and they're just now getting around to torturing information out of him? And how pussy are the Klingons, that some Romulan Miner who's been imprisoned for 20 years can beat the crap out of all of them to escape?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    I think...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... Asimov may be somewhere watching this on repeat and then puking blood, whilst shitting his pants, pissing acid and then bursting into flames.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    No offence Asimov, when you turn up!

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    I actally enjoy your posts, pretty well thought out and balanced - just not on the subject of this particular flick! :)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    TommyGavinsEgo

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Second best Trek behind Khan? Please...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Let the backlash begin!

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    This movie got raves when it was first release. Now the tide is turning. I expect that sort of thing from a Seth Rogen movie (have its happened plenty) but I kind of thought Star Trek would get a break.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    HORRIBLE HACKY QUICKCUT HORSESHIT

    by HaterofCrap

    just like the rest of the movie.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Nicest . . . black hole . . . ever.

    by Kraven Morehead

    I liked how instead of eating Eric Bana the black hole sent his ship back in time to a convenient point at which his nemesis would still be alive but his ship would have the strategic advantage.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    I still like the movie

    by BizarroJerry

    I don't intend to do any backlashing. I liked it then, and I liked it now. And I wasn't "suckered in". I just liked it. No one tricked me into doing so.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Dull scene - glad it was cut

    by lockesbrokenleg

    This movie needed a lot of action. No exposition scenes.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Klingons ARE pussies.

    by DocPazuzu

    Admittedly, I haven't watched every episode ever made but I have yet to see examples of their much-vaunted prowess in battle. They're a bunch of poseurs and bullies who hide behind big hair and cheesy armor, making threats to crippled ships while safely on their own bridges. <p> Wookiees would eat them alive.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Darth Klingons

    by Ingeld

    Those helmets are yet another example that Abrams really wanted to direct Star Wars. Also, it is interesting to see a space faring race with the capability of warp drive keep one of their most unique and important prisoner in an old warehouse.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    This would be great to see if the damn thing worked

    by D.Vader

    I've never had a problem with videos on this site. But this crap won't play.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    see why it was cut

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    but was still a pretty cool scene. So those are klingons in masks?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Well said Bizarro!

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Strange how people seem to resent the fact people plain and simple ENJOYED it. <p> <p> Kwits... yeah, I went there! Second best behind Khan. Search For Spock, Voyage Home and Undiscovered Country tied, very very closely behind. Final Frontier down in the doldrums. Next Generation entries - couldn't give a fuck, uniformly dull, earnest, and forgettable. Oh, with the exception of First Contact which was average for what it was. <p> <p> The Motion Picture is the biggest giant clusterfuck of the lot. Dour, colourless, lifeless, totally compromised by Roddenberry, in my opinion. <p> <p> Oh yes, I went there. Roddenberry out-Lucased Lucas in misunderstanding the appeal of his own creation, decades beforehand.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    That didn't make no sense....

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Klingons in face helmet mask...Really? Then getting ass kicked by a Romulan? Really?-----WOW.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    TommyGavinsEgo

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Not that I resent that you enjoyed it, just that the filmmaking involved was awful.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    THEY'VE CAST FRIGGIN' BILBO BAGGINS!!!

    by Nice Marmot

    Not. See, you are hungry for Cool news after all.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Marmot...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...YOU BASTARD!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    The helmet thing...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... I dunno, in the original series, did the Klingons and Romulans ever officially clap eyes on each other? Maybe it's because of that. And yes I am aware that in the original series, the Federation and the Romulans fought a war without every seeing each other and changing that was the major plot point. <p> <p> Or maybe Abrams et al were keeping them in masks to keep showing either bumpy or non-bumpy foreheads! Thus respecting canon, in their own way (reeeeeeeally shittily explained away in Enterprise, by the way). <p> <p> Or maybe they thought they looked cool. Doesn't much matter.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Honestly, I'm fine if they want to make Klingons wimps...

    by Chewtoy

    ...I just don't think that was the intent here, and that's really the point. Things happen in this movie because the script says that's what comes next, not because of any logical progression to events. Nero can bust out of prison after 20 years because he needs to... not because there's any established reason he can or should be able to. I have no idea how he got his ship back, especially if the Klingons know it's impressive technology. Did they leave it parked in the prison's parking lot? <br><br> Honestly, the movie is charming, and I did enjoy myself watching it in theaters, but the story makes it a perfect example of a movie that you can enjoy so long as you don't really think about it.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    How did they get caught?

    by JuanSanchez

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Who's playing the Klingon? His voice is very familiar...

    by D.Vader

    But I can't place it. Not Kevin Michael Richardson I don't think; its not deep enough...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Kwitz...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Understood - the "resent" comment wasn't aimed at you, more towards... shall we say.. absent (so far) friends? ;) <p> <p> I just say though, I think the filmmaking involved was superb. In fact, so superb it very slickly papered over any, shall we say, "cracks" in the storyline.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    yeah I'd have walked out

    by BendersShinyAss

    that pausy jumpy shit just aint right for a 150 mil film <p> or am i the only one who had that problem? it's not like i wasn't patient and gave it time to load... the fucking player sucks man. <p> here's hoping i see it tomoro and not have to wait til next week as i fear i may be forced too. <p> haven't read talkback yet, but assimov you suck!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    too all the haters

    by KMKhaine

    Really, I mean is had decent enough 'splodyness, the cast was a huellovalot better than I expected, and a near nekked green chick who actually has a semblance of a body (as opposed to the frame of a 10 yr old boy most chicks in hollywood have). <P> When some of you bitch about nit picky crap I think you forget the word Fiction is part of SF. <P> Not to mention a lot of movies - shocker - including this one was made for entertainment purposes only.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    KMKhaine

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I think you were indeed the target audience for JJ's film.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Kwitz...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    I think the target audience for Star Trek was EVERYONE. People who always knew Kirk and Spock were the coolest. <p> <p> NOT those slavering pedantic fanboys who forced Trek to paste itself into a convoluted corner, trapped under the weight of its own canon, formula, self-importance and smugness (I'm looking at you, Voyager.)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    JuanSanchez....

    by D.Vader

    I believe, if I remember the comics correctly, when they came through the black hole and destroyed the Federation ship, a short time later a bunch of Klingon birds of prey decloaked and surrounded them. Nero had nothing else to do but wait, so he allowed themselves to be caught.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Apparently, Peter Berg is off of DUNE.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Shouldn't AICN report on something like this rather than post a story that does nothing but re-ignite the STAR TREK flame wars?!<P>Oh...wait...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Enterprise explains klingon bumps

    by BendersShinyAss

    You mean when Berman and Braga were using razor blades to scrape the last remaining rust from the bottom of their barrel? bullshit, the bumpy headed klingons are from another hemesphere of Quo'nos. THAT was the explanation back in the day and I'm damned if I'll accept some genetic mutation enterprise faith in my fart plot point. that show is FORGOTTEN.... certainly not forgiven. yet. another couple trek films and maybe another tv show and we'll see how we feel...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    I've yet to meet anyone

    by BendersShinyAss

    outside of these talkbacks who didn't like this years star trek.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Why is there always some loser on this site

    by lockesbrokenleg

    that says just because we think a scene is bad, it needs more explosions?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    It was deleted because Abrams doesn't know Star Trek!

    by HellKing

    Remember the leaked original draft of the script that shows how Abrams wasn't a Star Trek fan? Klingons got cloaking technology from the Romulans. Since his story took place before that ever even happened, the whole part involving Klingons was deleted because the script had Klingons warships decloak after the battle in the beginning of the movie.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    TommyGavinsEgo

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I couldn't care less about the old Trek fans (I liked the movies but was never a Trekkie/Trekker/whatever they call themselves). But the old Trek movies were aimed at everyone too. The movies saw declining numbers due to the Next Gen crew being super geeky and not really relatable to a Friday night audience. This movie WAS aimed squarely at that friday night audience and as a result the script was moronic. I'd have no problem with a Trek movie aimed at a general audience if they had hired talented writers, and not the super-hacks behind Transformers, Legend of Zorro, The Island, Hercules etc. If they ahd hired real dramatists and not fanboys then this movie would have stood a chance of being competent. Of course all that flew out the window the second Kurtzman and Orci came onboard, and they brought in a TV director incapable of one memorable cinemascope composition.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    According to Worf in TNG, the differences between smooth and bumpy-headed Klingons is something the Klingons do not like to talk about.<P>I'm not a Trekker and even I know that, yo!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Mr Nice Gaius

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Yes! Thanks for the news, that's made my day!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    With a name like yours, I bet it did. You're welcome!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    "Captain, This Tribble Is Dead"

    by cookylamoo

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    nerds have such little imagination

    by Browncoat_Jedi

    Every little plothole and nitpick can be explained with a little imagination and intelligence. But apparently tons of nerds haven't the brainpower for it and would rather BLARGH about it on the internet. Fascinating.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    The Rockyteer

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    A period adventure film about an almost washed up prizefighter who gets one more chance when he stumbles across a rocket-pack. Starring Timothy Dalton as Apollo Creed. <p> oops wrong talkback again....

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    @iamnicksaicnsn : Klingon bumps

    by V'Shael

    It was Manny Coto, I believe, not Berman or Braga, who came up with the idea. There was a human scientist who started dabbling in Eugenics, just like when Khan was created in the 20th century. He created a group of augmented humans, who operated as scavenging pirates, and preyed on Klingon vessels. The Klingons eventually captured a few, and took the technology. It made them more human looking, but physically stronger, etc... I actually liked the explanation a lot, myself. Didn't care much for Enterprise as a series, but all of Manny Coto's episodes in Season 4 were worth a look.

  • we loved this scene but in the end, we cut it to keep the mystery that surrounded Nero (giving him a specific whereabouts for 20 odd years actually hurt the movie, and a brief cameo of the kligons seemed like an insult - they deserve an entire movie). I had fun writing it though and i definetly have some Klingon ideas for the sequel, alex, bob and JJ are very interested in my sequel storyline

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    I thought this said NEGRO VS KLINGON

    by manifestchaos

    and I was briefly excited

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Shatners Kirk is DEAD long Live Pine

    by j2talk

    or frankly ANYONE else but the Shat.... Finally, we have Star Trek back and successful and some people want to go BACK!!! Hell No!!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    nice...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Mr Nice Gaius

    by BendersShinyAss

    I am aware of the scene you speak of... and even then i smacked my head it wasn't explained then. it was in an old series novel and also a next gen technical manuel by okoda (sp)? where it was explained. it seems to me that back in the day no one had any real authority to give a def explanation and I always HATED trials and tribulations for that cop out. but i HATE enterprise more for it's worthless explanation. seriosuly, genetic mutation? the whole planet?? it makes much more sense there be different culture klingons

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    I Never Bought a Ticket Because of ShakeyCam

    by WriteFromLeft

    And I guess I'll never see it on DVD. This makes me want to see it even less. Obnoxious rapid-cutting plus ShakeyCam. I haven't the slightest idea what I was supposed to be focused on. 'Scuse me while I reach for the Dramamine.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    FYI: That Klingon is Victor Garber

    by robogeek.com

    (for those of you who don't already know, or don't recognize the voice)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Jettl93.... again with the klingons

    by BendersShinyAss

    half the films have been klingon films.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    JettL93, except that...

    by Jayemel

    Damn Lindelof is also co-writing the script for the sequel, thus, once again, proving your gimmick is not only lame, but uninformed. If you're going to continue the charade, at least do it with intelligence.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    The Trek movie never had shakey cam!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Maybe a few lens flares. But I don't remember the camera moving at all.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    ABRAMS DIDN'T KNOW EVERY MINUTE DETAIL OF TREK LORE!?

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    Hellking you know how fucking sad you sound? Also I could have swore two guys named Orci and Kurtzman wrote the movie. That abrams guy you're talking about who personally hurt and betrayed you by raping the memories of an entire youth spent on a starship bridge in your imagination was just directing what they wrote. Hell, maybe he even removed said scene your bitching about because he knew it didn't fit. Whaagh I'm a stupid old fanboy afraid of change, what will we ever do if someone who isn't a brainwashed star trek nerd directs a star trek movie? Something actually new and entertaining instead of the same old embarassing space faggotry maybe? BY GRAPTHAR'S HAMMER, YOU WILL BE AVENGED, FAGGOT.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    The Different Klingons was explained in Enterprise

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It was a virus that rendered older Klingons to have the turtle heads, while the younger ones lost them.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Awesome scene, question for Jet

    by Dancingforever

    man I thought this movie was real cool. I liked everything about it and thought the battles were super cool. Jet that's awesome you got to work on this and stuff. Do you know if Kahn or the Borg might be in future movies?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Klingon appearances

    by corplhicks

    They are in helmets because JJ didn't want to spill beans about their appearance yet, or no one really wanted to commit on their appearance yet.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I can see why this sequence was dropped...

    by AlienFanatic

    Kind of a crummy riff on the worm from Star Trek IV, a cheesy Klingon villain (that sounded suspiciously like F.Murray Abrahmson), and two really stupid guards. J.J. made a good cut on that one.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Er...

    by AlienFanatic

    I meant Star Trek II

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Somewhat cool scene but...

    by spaceworlder

    ...it exhibits the same issues that plagued rest of the movie: Excessive shakey cam and awful editing.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    First off, props on a truly great username. I salute you.<p> Secondly, I agree with you. Everyone I've talked to who saw Star Trek had a great time. Some never had any ST experience, some saw some over the years, some only TOS, and some ubergeeks who could name every prop in Picard's quarters. Every single one of them loved this movie. <p>Thirdly, I will take the opportunity to voice my biggest gripe with ST:TNG: Each episode opens with the promise " to boldly go where no one has gone before." PC change aside (didn't bother me), the worst thing about TNG is that they only went where no one had gone before maybe 4 times in the entire 7 year run. And when they did, it was never on purpose. They were dragged there by Q, or Barclay screwed up, or some simular excuse. Only rarely was there a genuine sense of wonder that the original series had. What a waste of great design work and Patrick Stewart.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Those aren't Klingons...

    by Triple_J_72

    ...They're Snuffleupaguses!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg, pot? kettle?

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    You are one of the biggest losers here, dude. But in this talkback I could bet money you will be pipped to the post by Asimov hands down.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    I think JettL93 is that supershadow moron.

    by little_lebowski

    Y'know, the jackass who claims to be friends with George Lucas and that he's going to direct Star Wars 7-9.<br>Fake insider info crap is that demented freak's MO, too.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I think your long ass SN proves you're the biggest douche on the net.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Thanks robogeek

    by D.Vader

    I asked. You responded.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    It's ok lockesbrokenleg. that's cool.

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    you need to be a film fan to get it.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Shut the fuck up Asimovlives

    by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL

    In advance.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Stunt Vocalist 709

    by BendersShinyAss

    I had a similar gripe with the new film the way you did with Next Gen... the bar scene had all these aliens, and even mentioned the cardassians.... making it seem like the whole explore and seek out new life had already been covered. <p> in defence of Next Gen tho... they had a lot of diplomatic missions which took them back over areas already covered, but there was a LOT of exploring new worlds and discovering new civilizations. I couldn't even begin to try and remember how many 'baku' style planets they dressed up to intermingle with. <p> Voyager, ie star trek for girls did a good job of trying to re-establish that by throwing them on the other side of the galaxy.... but it very quickly became a show about the borg, false returns to earth and holodeck malfunctions.... <p> personally, I'd love the second film to have a first contact with an alien race, maybe the Gorn?? and have all the classic early trek stuff we don't see - including a red shirt death.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Lockesbrokenleg

    by D.Vader

    Come, on, give Player Two some credit. Its an obscure reference, I believe, to Sean of the Dead, so I immediately give him the benefit of the doubt.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    oh and lockes, while we are on the subject of SN's

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    refer back to my first post of pot and kettle. <p>Player Two has left the game.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    But also, Player Two...

    by D.Vader

    I think you need to realize that for all his sound and fury, lockesbrokenleg is ultimately harmless and comical.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    But also, Player Two...

    by D.Vader

    I think you need to realize that for all his sound and fury, lockesbrokenleg is ultimately harmless and comical.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    It's SHAUN of the dead. Not SEAN of the dead

    by lockesbrokenleg

    fucking morons.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    No self respecting Klingon would wear a mask

    by IndyGold

    I mean really. They are a fucking warrior race, and value honor and lineage. To cover up their identity , to hide themselves seems weakish, and pussyish, and not at all Klingon. Plus they look like stolen designs from PREDATORS.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Pardon me your ShinyAssness, but remember: the TOS Klingons we saw were but a few here and there. You are assuming that that meant all Klingons were like that. Granted, back when the original series came out, your assumption would be valid. But with the advent of TNG, there is legitimate wiggle room to make those we saw in TOS the exception, not the entire population.<p>Yeah, I got tired of the bumps and other lame alien work, too. <p>I invite you to re-watch Enterprise with an open mind. Sure it has its flaws, but at least they went where no one had gone before on purpose. And more times than TNG. I agree with the other poster that the fourth season had great episodes. I particularly liked that they told stories that created a real future history. As opposed to having stories with no consequences beyond the episode. Case in point: TNG ep where the crew de-volves - at the end of the episode they are all normal again. That kind of limited story telling keeps an intelligent viewer from looking forward to the next episode. Because nothing that happens matters in the long run. The best TNG episodes were the ones that had carry over qualities/characters/stories. Wish there had been more.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Touche lockes

    by D.Vader

    Touche, dick.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    JETTL93 - THANK YOU

    by BringingSexyBack

    It was a wise move to delete this scene. It's comparably weak (though I don't mean to impugn your writing talent) and the focus of the movie should be on Kirk and company, not on Nero. Too much of Nero's background would've weakened his mystery and threat.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    D.Vader, well that's a very nice thing to say, man

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    But the little prick has just slapped you right in the face. He may be able to spell it, but he didn't 'get it' with his terrible come back. So kudos to you I say.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    All this Nerd fighting

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I think I need to get laid tonight.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    JETTL - WAS IT YOUR IDEA TO PUT THE CAMERAS ON SLIP N' SLIDES

    by BringingSexyBack

    or did JJ come up with that one?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Stunt Vocalist 709

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Enterprise ALREADY WENT were most of the other ships had gone already. They even went to FUCKING RISA!! TNG was far better.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Well Player Two, I don't like making mistakes

    by D.Vader

    And I usually never make that one, misspelling Shaun with Sean. He's harmless most of the time and just living up to his reputation is this case, I suppose. But ultimately, he's right. And an ass =).

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    LOCKES - YOU CATCH MORE FLIES WITH HONEY THAN VINEGAR

    by BringingSexyBack

    Time to put up the charm offensive, chief.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    WHAT, THEY COULDN'T AFFORD KLINGON MAKE-UP?

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    HOW CAN THE KLINGONS CAPTURE NERO

    by lockesbrokenleg

    AND THE ROMULANS CAN'T? DON'T GET IT!!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Asimov Fucks Goats

    by The_GoatFucker

    Mmmm hmmm! <p> I know

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    D.Vader he is wrong about one thing

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    No way he is getting laid tonight :) <p>Now..star Trek. That scene. Guess they have masks on so not to spoil the look for future klingon based stories in just one scene. Would like to put more time and money into it I'm guessing.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Stunt Vocalist 709

    by BendersShinyAss

    meh..... pushing the re-set button is part of what makes star trek fun. and when something like Vulcan being destroyed in the past and it DOESN'T get fixed... well thats the sort of twist that actually gives trek some big hairy ones and can only be achieved thru long running saga. so kudos for that.<p>I'm not totally opposed to enterprise, i just find it hurts my head trying to understand that production side... i mean, lets take that opening song. i mean... i can see the smoke filled room as lines are done on the star trek symbol glass table and the cd stacker switches to rod steward and they all sit up and feel the groove "oh you know what - this should be the theme for the next star trek show" "yeah, that'd be amazing, and lets drop the title star trek too" <p>hey, i don't hate the guys for it, but they didn't think it thru! and i've seen enough random episodes to see that by season 4 there was a pretty exciting arch happening. and i really enjoyed the mirror universe episode with the whole closing scene from First contact.... but..... that final episode with riker and troi struggling to squeeze into their uniforms, and then closing out with picards voice.... it just.... sucked. <p>hey - it made the new trek film all the better :)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    You make a valid point about the bar scene. However, just about all the planets where they 'explored' were already charted and named and they were following up on someone else's work.<p>You are also right about how Voyager lost the one advantage they had (thrown 'cross the galaxy) by repetitive nemisi. The worst offender on that front was the Karzon. (don't care how it's spelled) Not only were they stupid looking biker/Phyllis Diller hair-do excuses for aliens, they were supposed to be leaching off other aliens technology. But somehow they were spread so far that it took Voyager YEARS to get out of their space. LAME.<p>BTW, I enjoy your posts. Thoughtful and interesting. Thanks!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Archer's been in this prison planet too

    by lockesbrokenleg

    He was sent there in the episode Judgment day.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Never said that Enterprise was perfect or that they always went somewhere new. That being said, They went to places for the first time far more often. Even spent an entire SEASON (3) in new territories. In only four seasons, the NX-01 went to newer places MANY more times than NCC-1701 ever did in seven years. It's not even close.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    MJ was the GREATEST

    by The_GoatFucker

    And anyone who says differently is just a mean green weenie!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    The Klingon torturers wear masks.

    by cookylamoo

    So those little scorpion things don't crawl in their mouth while they're interrogating. They wear a similar guard on their asses to protect their "dark places".

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    this years star trek was finally an entertaining movie

    by geckobrothers

    and this is, what the whole big-budget-hollywood-filmmaking-industrie is all about. All those trekkis/trekkers/nerds/geeks or whatever should realise, that Star Trek is fiction and entertainment. It's neither a religion nor a real philosophy of life. Don't get me wrong. I've seen all the Star Trek movies, every episode of TOS, TNG and even DS9 but by getting older i realised one thing: Star Trek may be a little bit smarter than other tv-shows, and it may transport certain humanist values, but put it against one page of e.g. Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment, it's just laughable. The whole franchise took itself way too serious in the last years, what resultet in bad movies and even worse TV-Shows - First Contact being the sole exception. So, thank you J.J. for giving Star Trek back to "normal" movie-lovers. I was entertained and i look forward to th next installment.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    cause it's a trek kinda day

    by BendersShinyAss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOP2GrF8hho

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    GoatFucker....Yeah MJ was pretty cool.....

    by DrMorbius

    But I preferred Gwen Stacy!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Great point about Vulcan's demise being permanent - real consequences. One of the best things about the new movie was that it gave Star Trek its balls back.<p>Even after repeated viewings, the opening sequence still gets to me. One of the best sequences in all of Star Trek lore.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I wish we had "facepalm" icons...

    by MR. MURDOCH

    ...So I could pop one up every time "JettL93" shows up. On the subject at hand, Abrams was clearly aiming for a hybrid of the two types of Klingons -- underneath the rigged mask (which clearly reflects the more "modern" bumpy look), in a couple of shots, you catch that the guy has a rather distinctive pointy beard, which was I trademark, I believe of the "earlier" Klingons. Seems like, as with the whole film, Abrams was trying to have it both ways. That being said, yeah, the way the Klingons get taken out here by a guy who's supposed to be weakened from being in prison for two decades does reek of supreme ignorance of character and storytelling, no matter how much you're trying to "mix up" the Trekverse. And oh yeah, not that anyone hasn't already mentioned this twenty times, but this scene also makes much more apparent the supreme fallacy of WHERE WAS NERO'S SHIP PARKED FOR 20 YEARS, and HOW DID HE JUST GET RIGHT BACK IN IT LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED? THAT being said, I still liked the movie...I think. Still trying to work that one out. But it would have all been better, methinks, WITHOUT Nimoy-Spock.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Glad it was cut

    by daggor

    Horrible treatment of the Klingons. No Klingon makeup, no Klingon language, and they're a pushover for a Romulan.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Yeah, and the Klingon's voice was...

    by MR. MURDOCH

    ..pretty SyFy movie-ish quality. Not good.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    TNG went to many new places and discovered

    by lockesbrokenleg

    many new aliens. Every week there was new aliens. In the first episode they are on the edge of unknown space. DS9 never went ANYWHERE, new and yet people never complain about that show.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    DS9 never went anywhere, Lockes?

    by TheHumanBurrito

    I must have hallucinated the Defiant venturing into the Delta Quadrant and encountering the Dominion, among other places they went and new aliens they ran into. Silly me, having watched the show before I open my mouth to state something as fact!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    So now Nero is a DVD-Rom-ulan

    by cookylamoo

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    ds9 was a station

    by BendersShinyAss

    station being another way of saying go no where

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    DS9 vs TNG

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    I grew up with TNG, so I can't really diss that show. But after I was turned on to TOS, I saw how TNG just recycled plots. Until they hit their stride with Picard being the supreme focus. <p> DS9 was great because they built a continuous story like atmosphere. They they kicked some ass!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    star trek III

    by mattb68

    As much as I love KhanI still think the only movie that ever got close to the best of the original series in relation to emotion and story was Search for Spock. I love that one.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Klingons

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Glad it was cut, and glad I never saw the comic. I prefer the mystery of their 25 year wait. They had a lot of ship to fix, which likely took a while. After that... nice to have an open ended unexplained time period.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    This movie was the pits.

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    No fun involved. Just going through the motions. Blah.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    I think star trek 1979

    by BendersShinyAss

    Is the best film this side of 2001 a space odyssey .... it's THAT FUCKING good. oh yeah, i said it.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by DrMorbius

    Thanks for the link, nice little tribute to ST. You've probably seen this before, but always good for a laugh.<P>http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film (remove spaces)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    DS9

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Only improved after Babylon 5 showed them how. Long reaching story arcs, battles that had more than 4 ships, character development, multiple adversaries -even from within, etc.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    No, DS9 went to the Gamma Quadrant

    by lockesbrokenleg

    And they even shut THAT off when they found the Dominion. DS9 was always on the verge of exploding, or the wormhole was blowing up. Oh, and Sisko always left the station at the end of a season, yet people love it?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Eric Bana was amazing in CHOPPER

    by manifestchaos

    anybody else seen it?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    pew! pew! BEEEEEoooow!

    by son_of_ebert

    ~Captain! We've disabled their starboard plot device!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    WTF is this shit?

    by ominus

    its even worse than the movie itself. Goddammit is this the future of Star Trek?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    mattb68

    by geckobrothers

    For me Search for Spock is by far the worst Star Trek Movie. I would also put it on my top 10 list of the worst movies ever. The movie is an entire plot-hole, and Christopher Lloyd (as much as i love him for Back to the Future and Roger Rabbit) acts like a clown. Tastes are different, i guess ;-)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Loved that Onion segment. Says it all, doesn't it?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    ominus

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Take heart in that they had the smarts to cut this sequence from the movie.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    The Klingons look like Uruk-Hai

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Complete with torches! Yep, even the deleted scenes is this disaster are crap. Good JJ, why don't you have some random Klingon Prison Guard narrate the entire plot of the movie ten minutes in? And is it me, or was that guy pretty eloquent for a Klingon?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Enjoyed your Star Trek (11) post. <p>Disagree with your idea that Search for Spock was the worst. What were your favorites?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Keep the Klingons old-school...

    by DarqueGuy

    I hated the new bumpy-headed wannabe-samurai honor-code bullshit of the movies and Next Gen. Keep them the sleazy lounge-singer types from the old show.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    MR. MURDOCH - JUST DO THIS:

    by BringingSexyBack

    *Facepalm*

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by mattb68

    I think we can both agree that The Voyage Home is borderline unwatchable now right?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Oh, and...

    by DarqueGuy

    Wow...petulant angry geek backlash. What a shock. Way to perpetuate the stereotype, boy wonders.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    DS9 was incredible!

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    The best of the Trek franchise, and IMO, the 2nd best sci-fi series ever, second only to the original Twilight Zone!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    The Fall of the Republic: The Presidency of Barack H. Obama

    by Spazatronik2000

    http://tinyurl.com/yl8wc8z

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Spazatronik2000

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Your mother was an inside job.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Stunt Vocalist 709

    by geckobrothers

    I would say (in no specific order): Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country, First Contact and the new one.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Oh... you've done it now! The paradigm shift in this talkback may now change to Best SciFi Series Ever.

  • I personally think it is a great film, and while i like WoK, i think the motion picture was more akin to the intellegent episdes of the series. I actually had an idea for this film to involve a V'ger like enemy but the studio was adament that the villian be an individual that gave a face to the film. Perhaps we will include some sort of greater enemy in a sequel. <p>For now my brain is on Batman 3, myself, david and j-nol are having more trouble then you would think trying to ground the rogues gallery in the real world. We'd all love to do Mr freeze but the setting just doesn't call for it, however i'm sure you will all be pleased with the villan we are going with, this third movie will defently end cap the series perfectly in terms of tying up any loose ends from batman begins as well bringing in new themes and charactersnot yet explored

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Right with you on those. They are the ones I re-watch the most.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Those of you complaining...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...about the editing of this scene--you do know it's not a complete scene, right? It's been tightened up for the presentation, thus losing parts which makes it seem "choppy."

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    mattb68

    by geckobrothers

    Voyage Home was fun... 10 years ago. It hasn't the potential to be an alltime classic, that's right. but compared to Search for Spock it's a real masterpiece of cinema ;-)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Stunt Vocalist 709

    by DrMorbius

    Glad you liked it buddy.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    One of my favorite things about Batman Begins is that his adversary was not one that had been dealt with over and over. Any chance that a NEW adversary might be created for B3?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    comic

    by corplhicks

    that comic that came out beforehand was great and explained Nero's back story a lot more than that hard to follow brief scene in the movie. Shows him to be a crazy mourning maniac.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Jettl93

    by BendersShinyAss

    if you are who you say you are (and i have my SERIOUS doubts) <p>the penguin and catwoman & the riddler. Penguin as just a fat guy with a fiendish plot to bring down the new order of the city - the riddler as an insider leaving the clues for batman to work it out (but he doesn't get the first few and only catches on towards the end when a few bad things happen) and catwoman as a mysterious ninja like woman who he becomes obsessed with because she always slips away and he NEVER gets a good look at her

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Stunt Vocalist 709, you're right,

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    sorry! I sure as hell don't want to open THAT can of worms...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Great ideas for the Penguin, Riddler and Catwoman- kudos.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    ANYONE have a link to...

    by DrMorbius

    the animated Superheroes clip that has Wonderwoman cussing out Batman and Robin, and then her boyfriend (Superman) shows up? Anyone? Thanks.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Oh, we're playing along with JettL93...

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    In Fucking Insane Psychopath Land? I'm always so on the "outside" with this. I never know when to stop wearing white, what's the correct fork, or when to humor lunatics ('cause they're "mad genius funny" or some such, as Pazuzu claimed).

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Here's some off-topic fun: <p>http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=IE9D2KO-Dkk&feature=autofb<p>For those who don't know - note space 'tween you and tube- remove to enable address. Enjoy!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    If you guys think JettL93 is full of shit, ignore him

    by YackBacker

    That's what I've been doing. :)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Trek '79 one of the best EVER!?

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Holy crap. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but.. REALLY?! <p> <p> I honestly think it's the most UN-Trek film of all, and I blame Roddenberry for that. It honestly seems to me that, in the interim between the series being cancelled and relaunched, as fan support was swelling, Roddenberry got a real over-inflated sense of the weight, heft and importance of what he had created. It was essentially a sci-fi adventure show, fortunate enough to attract some very good writers, and some true lightning-in-a-bottle casting chemistry. <p> <p> The Motion Picture is none of these things. It's colourless in every way. What WERE they thinking with the set design, almost gunmetal dull, and the drab wardrobe? <p> <p> There is little awe or discovery at all, save for the deneoument. There is NO spark between the leads. Spock and Kirk just plain don't get on! Neither Spock or Bones want to even be there. Kirk is a massive dickhead who blatantly usurps command from his young pretender, and doesn't deserve it. THe crew never leaves the ship. <p> <p> Two hours of people silently peering out of the viewscreen in slack-jawed supposed awe is how it feels to watch. Or, has one critic correctly pointed out: "Two hours watching people watch TV." <p> <p> WATCHING people pretending to be awestruck does not make the audience awestruck! <p> <p> Good score, though.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    SERIOUS doubts? For real? Only SERIOUS? Take a moment and check the fucking stunningly outrageous claims made by JettL93 in every talkback in which he makes an opinion. That motherfucker is currently on a top secret CIA mission to the moon with Tom Cruise, Spielberg, Abrams, Lucas, and Cameron where they're all either a) rewriting/script doctoring/pitching every single "it" movie coming down the pike, or, b) have already rewritten/script doctored/pitched every single "it" movie that ever existed. His claims are so outlandish that most simply humor him into more and more ludicrous claims.<p>Like, maybe, how God called him up the other day 'cause he was designing a new universe and, after the great work that JettL93 did on the Mirror Universe ('cause that was TOTALLY his baby!) He thought that JettL93 was just the guy to help Him. Unfortunately, JettL93 was contractually obligated to help 17 other deities and just couldn't make the time for Jehovah. ;-(

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Asimov's schedule has just been screwed

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    *Asimov turns on his 1995 Windows PC.* <p> Asimov: Let go to AICN now agin for some cerebal discusion. Oh fuck it's Skank Trek agan! Warp speed into it heh heh. Got to call boss... <p> Goatfucker Boss: Ungh ungh.... oh hi senor Asimov ready for new work day? <p> Asimov: I canot because its the fucking Skank Trek. That worthless shitter of shits Jar Jar has released knew fotage. <p> Goatfucker Boss: Alright but when you come back remeber for makeup okay i'm alredy working overtime, you know recession and all.. ungh unghhhhhh.... <p> Asimov: I wil dont worry ill definitly be top of it tomorow but tonday is the battle time!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    But Yackbacker

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    It's fun to spur him into his increasingly ludicrous claims. Like his Canadian girlfriend (oh, you guys would know her, but he can't mention any names) who is totally hot and so all over him when he's trying to pound out the new blockbuster on his computer and how, sometimes, just to appease her, he lets her suck his cock while he's writing, but just 'cause she loves it sooooo much.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    TommyGavinsEgo

    by geckobrothers

    You're critc on the '79 Star Trek was spot-on! I would say it's like "two hours watching people watch a 2001: A Space Odyssey - Special Effects Realm on TV". (Nothing wrong with 2001 by the way...)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    At least Jett's funny!

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... and maybe, maybe, possibly, but I don't really think, but could be... Supershadow. <p> <p> That site was - IS! - fucking hiiiii-larious. <p> <p> Blows my mind how that guy MUST have a job and yet somehow still found, and continues to find for the most part, enough hours in his life to fling that shit onto the net! Funny stuff, I still give it a visit occassionally, recommend everyone here does too! <p> <p> (Don't pay the douche though, like a few in the past did. Round about the time there was a serious rumour that he was actually Steven Spielberg. Close to Lucas... Super Shadow... S S .... Geddit?)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Tommy & bicycle

    by BendersShinyAss

    Believe it or not, but trek 79 was gene's vision of the future. im not blind to how drab the whole show is, nor am i able to sit an watch it at any given moment. however, the film is an epic event when viewed thru the right context. <p> the future, space travel on fleets of giant ships - marvels of technological feat, and all under threat from a mysterious entity which turns out to be a probe these same human archtypes sent out centuries earlier in an effort to seek out new life. and now that probe has returned with all it's gathered knowlege - it's developed a robotic consciousness and knows only that it must return to it's creator, but sees the people intercepting it as an enemy. it's fucking marvelous!! granted, it's a movie made in the 70's - but lets compare it to the sci-fi of the time - Alien - logans run, etc. and lets face it, alien could have been merged with THAT trek just as easily as it was with predator

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    i forgot bicycle

    by BendersShinyAss

    don't worry, I'm on yellow alert with Jett until harry gives his black barred seal of approval he is who he is

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Star Trek 1 had a lot of potential

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    V'Ger is one of the most alien things ever portrayed on the big screen and the shots of the Enterprise flying through it are astounding. Robert Wise didn't really get the characters at all -- he mimicked Kubrick's pacing but didn't have his deep understanding or sense of irony. Nimoy looked like he was attending his own funeral.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    TommyGavinsEgo

    by Toonol

    "I think the target audience for Star Trek was EVERYONE"<p> Exactly, and in that way it was different than every other star trek film, except maybe Wrath of Kahn. This was the ONLY route to go that wouldn't result in a slowly decaying, stagnant, and shrinking niche audience. Sure, it had some problems, but they are small in relation to its successes. The film accomplished its mission.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Romulans have been more dangerous than Klingons

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    I always assumed it that way, Klingons have a warrior honor code and are more like barbarians, while the Romulans dont care for honor, are more conspiring and devious. They'll pit two sides with one another to destroy each other while they move in afterward. Also for the two looks of Klingons, i do like both, the TOS human look and the post-TOS, which do look more like aliens while the TOS ones look more like a Mongol/Hun barbarian.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss and Stunt Vocalist 709

    by JettL93

    BSA - Those 3 villains are of course easy to ground in the real world, but in doing so it makes them uninteresting generic bad guys. in order to have a great villian you need to have something deeper, something worthy of going up against batman. <P>dumbing penguin down to another mob boss doesn't do the character justice and in truth just repeats the mob bosses we have already seen. Ridler is doable in this world but everyone involved feels he's too similar to the joker and we want a more personal villan this time around.(In many ways this will be a smaller film, Batman isn't the hero of gotham anymore) and too be honest none of those 3 villians are going to appear in Batman 3, we are going for something not done before<P>SV709 - We are definetly looking at unused villians, everyone involved likes the idea of firefly being in the mix somewhere (an insane arsonist, with nothing too lose) and deadshot would definetly bring a serious danger to the table, however familair faces will pop up, Chris loves his flashbacks so expect some sort of harvey dent mention and if you think we've seen the end of the Johnathon Crane and Ra's al Ghoul storylines you'd be surprised how much deeper they can go, Scarcrow is of course still an open character and Ra's as we all know may have some family out there that has been waiting in the "shadows" to seek revenge

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Did Jett ever respond to Herc's calling him out?

    by YackBacker

    If you guys find it funny, by all means keep him going. As long as no one is losing any sleep over it, I see the value in this diversion.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    TommyGavinsEgo & Bender

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Supershadow = JettL93? Funny and probably right.<p>Agreed with Tommy's critique of ST:TMP and, while I can sympathize with Benders defense, I gotta give the points to Tommy here. You can compare it with other 70s sci-fi like Alien and Blade Runner and there's a reason that those two are considered "classic," but ST:TMP isn't and it's for all the reasons that Tommy mentioned.<p>Trust me, I've got a special place in my heart for ST:TMP and the original crew and I'd sit and watch them take a shit for six hours straight (probably why I'm "meh" on the new one), but ST:TMP does have its drawbacks (most of which Tommy mentioned).<p>I'd like to add that I blame the editing as well. Not only did we have to watch reaction shots of "awe" they were interminable and LOOOOOOOONG! I got no problem with a slow cut and pacing, but sometimes you've got to speed that shit up and pick up the pace of your cuts, especially in a movie essentially about dudes sitting around on a bridge for two hours. I wonder what a "phantom" cut of that flick would be like.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    ShinyAss

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    (Sorry, I can't call you Bender, that has a WHOLE different meaning here in England!!).. <p> <p> I totally agree that Trek '79 is a GREAT story. With huge scope. It's just the execution that sucks in my opinion, and (a criticism I have often fired back at JJ-Haters) that the main three characters and the dynamic between them are completely at odds with what we loved in the original show. Pine, Quinto and Urban were FAR closer in spirit. <p> <p> I think if it had been an original series episodes, and therefore drastically truncated, it would've been superb. (In fact, isn't there an episode with a very similar plot?) And of course TMP's script DID start life as an episode outline for the proposed Phase II television relaunch. It is still basically suited to that - a huge portion of it is simply padded out with effects sequences showing off the huge budget, but having no weight behind them at all. <p> <p> It's not a popular view, but I think booting Roddenberry upstairs and getting his hands off the wheel saved Trek. We all know he was not impressed with the plot or "naval" atmosphere of Star Trek II. And had plenty of problems with subsequent movies which the rest of us - by and large - agree are the strongest.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    great take Margo...

    by Dr.DirtyD

    That's Motion Picture in a nut shell. <P> mostly i agree with your statement regarding Wises take on the characters...or rather, his non-existent take on non-existent characters. <P> It's just cheaper to use cardboard cutouts.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    DarqueGuy

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    "I hated the new bumpy-headed wannabe-samurai honor-code bullshit of the movies and Next Gen. Keep them the sleazy lounge-singer types from the old show." <p> Yes... that's probably why i'd pick TOS Klingons over post-TOS now, i couldn't exactly put it why but you nailed it there. Actually my Klingon prefernce would be TOS>Movie TOS>post-TOS. The movie TOS ones looked like dry shitheads which just seemed more kookier in a good way, like charred from battle, while the post-TOS looked too faggy with the labia forehead and stupid hair.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    jettL93

    by BendersShinyAss

    you don't want another mob boss like the first film or have riddler (cause he's like the joker?) but want to bring back Ra's and scarcrow? <p>dude.... (Bender shakes head and goes outside for a smoke)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    "I'd sit and watch them take a shit for six hours straight "

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    aptly put Bicycle Sharer, their appeal knows no bounds.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by Spazatronik2000

    lol. Oh hey there's a brand new Loose Change movie out. trailer:http://tinyurl.com/yfh378h

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    TommyGavinsEgo, episode similar to TMP

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Was the Changeling, it was even dubbed "Where Nomad Has Gone Before", also the ending was similar to Metamorphosis. Each of the TOS movies have big episode connections, II for example obviously the Space Seed sequel, III like Spock's Brain premise, etc. etc.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Damn, Tommy

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Again with the perfect call on booting Roddenberry's ass. Dude, you're two fer here!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Spazatronik2000

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Really? LOL. So, is that like Dylan's tenth edit now?! How much longer will it take for him to get his story/theory straight?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    YackBacker. which talkback

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    does herc call him out? Anyone with a screen name based on George lucas's son and his birthdate is just a creepy motherfucker in my opinion.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    JettL93 is full of shit!!!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I was at that fucking final cut/edit meeting for STAR TREK (the one where we decided to leave out this scene) and I don't remember seeing Jett's scrawny ass anywhere! He's such a liar!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    TMP Director's cut

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Is pretty decent, but it's still slower than shit.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    it was the captain america talkback

    by BendersShinyAss

    jett said that harry and aint it cool new who he was and would confirm him as legit.... <p>Herc then went on to confirm that was in fact true that batman 3 was being written. deviously funny.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Cheers, Bicycle...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... Like I said, I do think he out-Lucased Lucas twenty years previously.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    plus, lest we forget....

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... pretty much everything else Roddenberry did was mediocre. Planet Earth, Genesis II, The Questor Tapes... He struck gold with Star Trek, but that was about it - and I still maintain that MOST of its original success (artistically, before it became popular) rested in getting great established sci-fi authors.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Batman 3 villian...

    by onezeroone

    is Batman. That's the way 2nd movie ends and Batman will be on the run fr most of 3rd movie. So the villian will have to be someone who can be the public face of hunt for batman. <p> That's where Penguin may come in, but it would be, in ways, retread of Penguin's story from Burton/Keaton Batman. It would be interesting if Ra's Al Ghul makes a reappearance, seeing they went for "he is not one man but many" approach to explain his immortality. Am sure the cult wasn't wiped out.<p> Combine this with Batman on hunt of Riddler serial killer, and it all comes together rather well.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    and JettL ceased being funny

    by onezeroone

    Trick to putting up a charade like this is keeping it believable enough to make folks wonder. But then, going by responses looks like he has managed to fool quite a few.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    I can't believe some of you think JettL is real

    by D.Vader

    If you believe anything he says, then you need to have your head examined. C-No told me himself there is no JettL, so stop asking this phantom questions. He's a liar. It's all a joke.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Star Trek wasn't gold when it was first on

    by lockesbrokenleg

    NBC didn't pick up the first pilot, thus shitting on ANOTHER story Roddenberry worked on. They had to come up with a second pilot that had more action to get the series picked up. The same thing would happen years later with TMP and TWOK being two totally different films.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    "Captain, I said This Tribble Is DEAD!"

    by cookylamoo

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    I joked JetL was Spielberg...

    by D.Vader

    Because only one man could have so many contacts and such a powerful influence. And so much freetime.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Was that Rick Moranis under the helmet?

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    It looked like a scene from Spaceballs, if Spaceballs was directed by Paul Greengrass.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Hollywood ruined Trek for me

    by MajorFrontbum

    Hollywood fucks everything it touches and the new Star Trek is no exception, turning it into something that it never was, so that the average movie goer, could relate to it. JJ Abrams was the worst possible director they could have chosen for this film, turning it into some trendy, Hollywood piece of shit. This project should have been given to Peter Jackson - at least he would have done it properly, given the thing some dignity and not taken the lazy approach by giving the public the 10 thousandth incarnation of "The Heroes Journey" or basically remaking the first Star Wars film. At least Abrams' version answers a question that's been on Sci-Fi fans lips for the last thirty years: Which is better, Star Trek or Star Wars? Well, considering Trek '08 is basically a carbon copy of "A New Hope" I concede, Star Wars is the victor, Trek bows before it.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    I just clicked on the headline to check on board.

    by kabong

    I wanted to see if you-know-who is giving you Abrams-lovers a sound thrashing.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Congratulations, Bicycle Sharer.

    by DocPazuzu

    As long as people respond to JettL the way you and Bender do, he will continue to be hilarious.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    MajorFrontbum

    by geckobrothers

    So you enjoyed Star Trek pre Hollywood? Mmmmh.... Perhaps you didn't notice: Star Trek never arthouse or dogma. It was low-budget for god's sake! Not a single Trek Episode (regardless which generation) had the intelectuell demands of a Twin Peaks episode. None of the movies can compete 2001. It was just Star Trek.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Look at the bright side!

    by JackCortez

    No flip counters on the bridge! Progress!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    This movie was...

    by BlueHawaiiSurfer

    Better than any Trek movie in the last 10 years. Get a grip and go cry on your old VHS tapes losers. This shit is here to stay, Berman and Braga have fucked up the ST universe long enough on the big screen. No FAT old Data in too much makeup, no FAT old bearded Riker, no nearly dead gen 1 cast. Embrace change or just enjoy the last 10 years of "ho-hum".

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    BHS

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Word.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Star Trek vs. Star Wars

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    I think i said this before but as a kid i was always more into Star Wars, Trek seemed just boring to me, although i watched TNG before any other of either franchises. But now i appreciate Trek more for its excellent writing and meaty stories, while SW only has the OT going for it and the rest are unwatchable, TOS has the original series plus 6 movies going for it in which i like each of them. Even the worst considered TOS movie can still be looked at as a TOS episode and it doesn't seem so bad anymore.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    That looked okay. I liked the movie. DavidAsimovLives will shit.

    by Sal_Bando

    You know I'm right. "WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I hate this shit Waaaaaaaaaaaah it did good money and Americans are fucking themselves up the asses for liking this kind of movie which us Goathumpers in Oporto hated----" falls back over onto boxed set of Abram's Trek, complete w/ 38 hours of out-takes and merino sheep footage...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    It's a brand new movie with up-to date info

    by Spazatronik2000

    Get his story straight? lol more like completely piss all over your moronic mainstream fairy tale version of events with more devastating evidence.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Why does the camera keep moving?

    by Fortunesfool

    Why can't I tell what's going on after he stands up. Shit film-making, that's why.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6 p.m. CST

    Stop whingeing about shaky footage...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... you fucking babies. There is no shaky cam in the film. There are a lot of pans and dynamic sweeping shots. THERE IS NO BOURNE-A-LIKE SHAKY CAM. In fact one of the major strengths of the action is that you can tell the whole geography of the scene, and can actually figure out what's going on. Which is, you know, the POINT. The one that eludes Bay and company. <p> <p> And yes, Kirk's story is the Hero's Journey archetype. That's why it's GREAT. Is it original? Fuck no. That's why its an archetype. And that's why it's been done a trillion times throughout history and continues to appeal. It appeals to primal Jungian and Freudian templates. And, er, stuff like that. It's late here, okay?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    ... and where the hell...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... IS Asimov, anyway? Did someone nuke Portugal?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    AVATAR TRAILER LEAKED! HOLY FUCK!!!!

    by Johnno

    tinyurl.com/yza6xq7<br><br>tinyurl.com/yhfo84v<br><br>tinyurl.com/yzu58sa<br><br>This shit looks HOT! the earlier leaked cam recorded footage does NOT do it justice until you see it in clarity! 1080p quicktime gloriously releasing tomorrow at 10 or so I hear. Can't wait!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Johnno

    by CharyouTree

    Cheers dude

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Sterling work, Johnno!

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    And yes. You're right. Let the hating commence. I wasn't one bit sold on the original, I still don't think the avatars themselves are TOTALLY photoreal... but that's gonna be a mindfuck in 3D.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    why no avatar news here?

    by motorcycleboy83

    new pics, trailers and 'making of ' stuff up everywhere else!!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    On 4th viewing....

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Fuck a duck. Great stuff. Bring it on. Couple of instances of "it's just CGI" (but how can your really tell on a small player, to be fair), Worthington's accent is still wobbly as hell (yet to be sold on him at all) but count me there opening day. Gimme my glasses. <p> <p> Only concern? Joe Schmoe and the wife will see that trailer and think "eh? cute blue cat people? Is this a cutey kid's cartoon or hard-ass sci-fi, it said the T2 did it".)

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    At least the users of AICN can keep us updated

    by CharyouTree

    thanks again Johnno, O and Star Trek was a decent movie, just to keep the thread on track.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Sorry for the missing words in the 2 posts above...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    .. damn slow laptop.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    The first link has a featurette on the bottom

    by Johnno

    Tons more new footage! Quality at that site isn't so good though. <br><br> Second link has the best quality of the trailer you'll find online so far.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Avatar is going to be MASSIVE

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It just looks fucking insane!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Abrams, Kurtzman, Orci

    by kwisatzhaderach

    This is how it should be done. Take notes.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    looking a lot better

    by Spazatronik2000

    They did a good job putting together a trailer which is probably a response to the backlash towards the first. The generic storyline is still a downer but at least the movie looks good.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Aint it slow news- Where art thou Avatar story?

    by RedJester

    Avatar looks insane. Sorry I ever doubted.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Avatar is going to be SHITIVE

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Just listen to that AWESOME dialogue! Photo-real FURY PORN NUMBAR ONE!!!!!111oneeno!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Tranny

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Troll elsewhere. Cameron is back!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    When Zoe says "You should not be here..."

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Incredible moment, fucking hell, I can't wait to see this.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    At least Tranny's admitting it's photoreal!

    by Johnno

    Damn it looks too fucking awesome! TOO FUCKING AWESOME!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    ya is there an identical scene in Pocahontas?

    by Spazatronik2000

    Just curious

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Johnno

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Every shot is brimming with Cameron's attention to detail and passion for cinema. This is where he wipes the floor with everybody else. The media have underestimated him again. NOBODY does sci-fi action like Cameron.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    It's "photoreal" if you don't know what reality looks like!

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Still looks like shit to me...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Pure pixel overload...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    With crappy dialogue and mediocre acting. Sucks this had to be Stan Winston's last project...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST

    It does look pretty awesome!

    by CharyouTree

    gets me pretty pumped, and the featurette is great to. If anyone finds a better copy of that please post link!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    So, when in the timeline does that take place?

    by Logan_1973

    Before? During? After?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Logan_1973

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It takes place after Nero destroys the Kelvin. There's a new comic series out called NERO that explains it.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:53 p.m. CST

    by motorcycleboy83

    avatar trailer is amazing. 'the making of thingy' is even better!!! why is there not more buzz on this site about it. only a few posts so far.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:53 p.m. CST

    motorcycleboy83

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Can you believe people are talking about Star Trek instead?!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    HARRY!!!!!!

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Or whooever's running this site ('cept us lot), what the hell? Put down the KFC and the vat of coke, trundle your ass to your PC.. AVATAR IS EVERYWHERE. That is, I would venture, COOL NEWS. Jesus Christ. <p> <p> Right then. Back to Star Trek.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    and as for the haters...

    by motorcycleboy83

    they can suck a fuck cos they have to go see anyway.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    We'll all be there, glasses in hand...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... hopefuls and haters alike. <p> <p> Oh, you talking about Avatar? <p> I thought you meant Star Trek II: The Wrath of Assimov. <p> <p> Just kiddin' folks.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    a cut scene from star trek get put up online.

    by motorcycleboy83

    a cut scene from star trek get put up online. who gives a flying fuck!!!! i love trek but some perspective would be nice. avatar has been what we have been waiting for for too long. the battle at the last act looks fucking surreal.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Jesus, still nothing on the main page...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    I thought Harry and Co were on Twitter, surely they've heard about this Avatar stuff by now! <p> <p> Or are they busy non-reviewing DVDs linking to Amazon, misquoting Shane Black, or reviewing their buddies' nasty little pseudo-snuff movies? Sorry, I still have a monkey on my back, fly in my ointment and pain in my ass about that last one. <p> <p> So glad to see the tide is turning with the Avatar-hate. And I was one of the very, very, "meh" brigade with the first trailer. Also good that there's been a pretty much reasoned debate this time out on Star Trek. Here's to absent friends, eh guys?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    They are sharpening the knives for Cameron...

    by TurdontheRun

    but the media, the ungrateful and negative fanboy dickbrains, the critics, and the outright trolls won't have a chance. They obviously figured that the bigger they are the harder they fall, but they are now floundering in abject desperation, utterly mad for anything negative to stick. And I absolutely relish it. Cameron doesn't drop the ball. Anyone with half a brain would have noted this from the very beginning.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Obviously Fa_Tass_DinoMolester has been to Pandora

    by Johnno

    He has handycam footage of it's flora, fauna and what it looks like at day and night. As well he's an expert fo aliens. He backpacks across their jungles and ice caves. He can tell you that they look exactly like on earth. And here I was under the impression that 'photorealism' was something having to do with light, the way it blends, reflects, refracts, bounces off and casts shadows. BUt I guess Fa_Tass is here to let us know it means something like looks exactly like on Earth, or whatever he's currently looking at outside the window... The Na'vi don't drive cars and trucks and forklifts, and they don't look like regular folk. And Pandora's animals don't look like his old pet doberman. That ain't photo-real, that's just different. God forbid we mix them up...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    TurdontheRun

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Exactly. Midnight here so going to call it a night. See you all tomorrow for some Cameron love.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    "smell ice can ya"

    by motorcycleboy83

    the iceberg has hit and this site missed it. what happens when the film is out, will they forget to review it?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Fa Tass Molestor

    by TurdontheRun

    Get off the glue. This is THE most fitting tribute Stan Winston could have had - his last project being an epic, game-changing Cameron sci-fi movie. He would have been proud. Not his last credit on a fucking hack job like Terminator Salvation.<p>As for 'bad acting and dialogue'. I see no such evidence in anything I've seen so far - in fact, Stephen Lang looks incredibly charismatic in the trailer, could be one of the great screen villains - rumor has it that's he's a good as Ledger's joker in terms of performance. That surprised even me, and I've been following Avatar for over 12 years. Worthington looks great,too. Run along now.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Low blow,motorcycleboy83

    by blakindigo

    But, sometimes the truth hurts like a mutha…

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Okay...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...that trailer was SHITLOADS better than the last one. Eyes are now seriously dry-humped.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    The OFFICIAL Avatar trailer comes out tommorrow.<P>

    by DrMorbius

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu—does it feel EPIC to you?

    by blakindigo

    Are you going to see it in 3D or 2D?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    blakindigo

    by DocPazuzu

    Very epic. Don't know if I'm going to chance the 3D thing. I don't want the experience ruined by potential nausea which I always get when I experience whatever happens to be the "next generation" of 3D technology.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Seriously...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...that looks fucking amazing.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    AssLives birth records.....

    by DrMorbius

    Born in Almada, REARED in every city in Portugal.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius

    by DocPazuzu

    heh

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    yeah

    by motorcycleboy83

    i don t mean to offend. just a bit pissed off about it. anybody have zoe saldana s phone number?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    no one cares about avatar

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    exept for about 10 people on this site. thats why the site doesnt cover the stories about avatar. i think there is more interest in twilight on aicn.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST

    avatar....hope it succeeds but........

    by j2talk

    unless its run time is in 3-3.5hr range its going be too much story for a single film.....hopefully this will work, it looks...interesting. Will it succeed for the masses? that i dont know know, but personally I doubt it will live up to the fanboy hype

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    3d sore on the eyes?

    by motorcycleboy83

    i saw u23D and i felt fine afterwars but the 15 preview of avatar(which was great) gave me a headache for the rest of the night. had lazer surgery on my eyes a year ago maybe it was that? how about you guys? plus imax 3D must be a head fuck and half!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    yeah, fuck imax in 3-d

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    imax = headache inducing. 3-D = headache inducing. put them together and you have a fantastic movie going experience! yay!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Imax 3D made me wish I sat further back—

    by blakindigo

    but, I got there too late from the first screening.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    I saw the Comic Con 25 minute 3-D presentation..

    by DrMorbius

    and it is way beyond what you see in that trailer. It's not 3-D where things 'jump' out from the screen its 'depth of field'. I had no 'headache' after.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength, Imax by itself is fine—

    by blakindigo

    —It didn't bother me when watching "Beowulf" so I don't expect it to be a problem here. I just have to sit further back for "Avatar".

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Klingon was voiced by....

    by Bill Clay

    ...the guy from Pinky and the Brain, Maurice LaMarche. Just ask JettL93, he'll confirm it.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    If nothing else that looks pretty fucking exciting...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...Cameron can put together a kick ass action sequence in his sleep.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Wait—didn't JettL93 rewrite Cameron's "Point Break" rewrites?

    by blakindigo

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Masked Klingons? JJ gone's too far!

    by Onin Solstice

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST

    good to know im not the only one

    by motorcycleboy83

    iv only seen a few movies in imax when i was younger and even then i felt it was overbearing. but in 3D it must be very stange, a real trip.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST

    ...the last 3D I saw was a HAIRY POOTER movie...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...and the twenty minutes of it made my eyeballs ache...and it started to separate out at the end so I saw ghosts of everything.<P>Not eager to try a full length show.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    by HellKing

    It sounds like you're the sad one because you seem to be very angry over nothing. Only someone seriously disturbed would interpret that seriously. Now don't go out and carry out your plan to shoot up a school or beat up a dog now, you hear? LOL!!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    wide shots

    by motorcycleboy83

    yeah the wide shots of pandora in the preview where the ones i felt justified a lot of the 3D. the screen felt like a window. it was seeing those shots i understood why cameron and the other directors like it so much.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Spazatronik2000

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    "Devastating evidence"? HA! Sounds like you haven't looked at any of the research that has gone into tearing that kids "documentary" to shreds. I'm talking down the line, minute by minute analysis. It's what made that kid go back and revise his film at least half a dozen times. He's even admitted to bogus conclusions based on a lack of concrete evidence.<P>Just because you don't believe in your government (blah, blah, blah) doesn't mean you should automatically believe in the pre-ordained conclusions he or any of those Truthers put forward.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    I have eye problems, but for some reasons movie screens

    by lockesbrokenleg

    don't bother me as much as TV screens do. People have the bright on their TV screens too damn high!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Behind the scenes is GONE

    by blakindigo

    Dammit.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    who fucking edited this?

    by ThePilgrim

    first a slug to do damage than slam cut to the words "take him to his cell" wait no clug in ear rip off wok scene? You where just about to do that and then you flipi ippy too a take him to his cell command and he nuts off and grabs a invisble gun and shoots and kicks these other guys. Is th ewhole movie shot liek this. I mean no need for shakey cam the action just don't match up to the mood or the scene.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    TAS and the 6 TOS movies equal a full TOS sesaon!

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    In run time that is, that's completely neat! I was just calculating it, 22 TAS episodes 30 mins each, which is 660 mins, then each of the 6 movies length times (TMP directors cut 4 mins longer) combining all that equals 1352 minutes, then divide that by 51 (the average amount of minutes of a TOS episode) and you get.... 26.5 episodes!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    ThePilgrim

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You do realize that it's a cut scene, right? It's not edited at all, and the sound is bad. Please don't judge a finished movie based on one deleted scene.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    ok then

    by ThePilgrim

    dont judge post by a drunk. take him to his cell... No ST2:TWOK homage ear slug for him, quickly hide the invisible guns he might grab one, too late, ah fuck I'm dead...... Redo!!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Actually I'm from Uranus...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    And I can assure you, aliens aren't blue vaguely-rodent looking Thundersmurfs. More like pink pig-looking bear-clowns. And Bill Clay, it did sound like the Brian...It would have been better if one of the others Klingons had been Pinky...

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    WHERE IS MY MAIN MAN TAINTLICK

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    BTW, all of the Trek deleted scenes are up here...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Apparently Green Girls all look alike... http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=106865

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    TAINTLICK got the hammer—

    by blakindigo

    —gone with him is "Damn You Michael Bay" and "dick-in-arse" I think÷

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    But I am still here BNB!

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Lick em if ya got em!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    RE: The Bicycle Sharer

    by Gigol-o Joe

    "I wonder what a "phantom" cut of that flick would be like"<p> I'm working on one. Shouldn't be too difficult as it's just basic cutting to quicken the pace. Biggest decision is whether or not to include the revised effects (not in the latest Blu-Ray). It does take someone who knows editing to make the right cuts though. I've seen phantom edits done so badly you wonder why they bothered.. Picture Quality is also a factor.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    MAN OH MAN I LOVE KLINGONS!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Where the hell is AsimovLivesIsDead?

    by quantize

    or whatever his name is...he does all AssholeLives' schtick a million times more succinctly and brilliantly. Why burn all those pixels reading the same delirious pompous ass self serving shit that cretin vomits out endlessly?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Regarding Asimov

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Maybe Abrams has annexed Portugal, drilled a hole and dropped in red matter. Just to (a) keep the talkback free of his one-note yelping, and (b) just to really, really, really piss him off with the not-quite-canon physics of the whole operation.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Or maybe...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Pissed-off future Romulans blew up Portugal 30 years ago and we're now in an alternate timeline, free of misguided uber-fan hate tirades. Could happen. But I kinda miss him.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    I liked it alright

    by megatom5

    Nero needed more screen time honestly, he had no depth. This just shows him kicking ass but it is quite unnecessary. Now how he got caught by the Klingons would be nice to know. Also what is a Star Trek movie without a little bit of Klingon in it.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    notice how Asimovlives isn't even here?

    by MurderMostFowl

    I find it funny that you guys basically had your conversation without him. <BR><BR> I guess that's good therapy or something.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    The Kirk Brothers scene was good, should have stayed in

    by YackBacker

    It was good character stuff, made the car theft a lot more meaningful and less bratty. And I do like the Gaila stuff with the Kobayashi Maru. My god is Rachael Nichols a freaky hot chick.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    THIS AIRED ON THE SCREAM AWARDS LAST NIGHT!

    by Orionsangels

    AICN failed to cover the Scream Awards. Even though cool things happened, like Megan Fox finally putting rumors to rest, on her thoughts of Michael Bay and Trans2. Shatner accepting the award for best scifi film of the year, STAR TREK! Which he wasn't in, funny moment. Stan Lee being honored. Harrison Ford was there and more great show. AICN had no thread for it.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    How is it a Miner can overpower two Klingon Warriors?

    by conspiracy

    And did JJ beg Jackson to borrow some Orc masks so he wouldn't have to spend the scratch on real Klingon makeup?

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    How do we know these are Klingons?

    by Onin Solstice

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    "How can a Mine overpower two Klingon Warriors?"

    by Alan_Moore

    That's a minor point at best. Recall that in Star Trek III, teenage Spock threw a Klingon warrior a good 10 feet. And being half human, he wouldn't be as strong as a full Vulcan or Romulan.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Cowards!

    by GeorgieBoy

    For not showing the Klingons without masks!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    SCREAM AWARDS Clips

    by blakindigo

    http://tinyurl.com/yh9kyf5

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Sorry wrong clips—the last one is Shatner

    by blakindigo

    The other clips…uh, Megan Fox and something about "Twilight." I think.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Better left on cutting room floor

    by picardsucks

    kind of lame. Glad they left it out.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    First thing: break his legs.

    by kabong

    He'll be talking and he won't be walking.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Alan_Moore...not to Geek out too much but...

    by conspiracy

    the only reason Spock did that in ST III was that he was in intense pain due to his growth being tied directly to the planet (remember the other Klingon looking as Spock face bubbled and aged before his eyes) AND he was suffering from Pon Far. So rapid aging and severe desire for Pussy led to his wild temporary physical strength...like people lifting cars to rescue a trapped child.</p><p>But here...we see the Romulan Mine kicking ass like Jet Li...kicks, flurries, working these Klingons like a pimp on his bitches. And that is just to fucking convenient.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    They obviously wanted to tease the Klingons' look

    by YackBacker

    And Klingons will likel be involved in the next picture. Maybe Kirk & Co. accidentally blow up a Rokeg Blood Pie shop and set of a galactic conflict. Sulu can pull out an extending phallus and beat down the enemy like the Russian hookers that they are! And Spock will say "Undoubtedly this is a human behavior I must suffer through, but as I am half-human, I may have to embrace it as well." Cue Alexander Courage theme. Fade out.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    And how did they fall into the hands of the Klingons anyway?

    by conspiracy

    Considering their vessel can eliminate the entire Federation Fleet...how is it they came to be captives, on what is seemingly a sparsely staffed Klingon Prison planet? And how do they get their shit back...where did it go for those 25years mentioned?</p><p>Orci...where are you...Don't wait for translation answer me NOW!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Vulcans do have Nerd Rage Muscles, conspiracy

    by YackBacker

    The whole race is a fucking Rage-aholics Anonymous gathering. They force themselves to act like pussies because deep down they could tear people's faces off. Ty Cobb was 1/4 Vulcan... so angry.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Sure Yack...but this is a Romulan, not a Vulcan..

    by conspiracy

    related..not the same, and strength does not answer for the wicked fighting skill.</p><p>Careful bringing up Cobbs name so close to the Day of the Dead...even from the other side that bastard is a fucking badass and dangerous.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Where is Orci? That Masochist always shows up..

    by conspiracy

    on Star Trek TB's.</p><p>Then again..it is too late and I have too much Spaten in my blood to write any stories tonight, so it'd be a waste if he did.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Cobb will go after Tommy Lee Jones first, me later

    by YackBacker

    There are a bunch of non-white players in MLB that he might want to take on too.<p> Oh, to answer your question about the Klingons, here's another cut scene that shows Nero getting captured: http://tinyurl.com/yzw4fyt

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:24 p.m. CST

    conspiracy, did you see Megan Fox's mea culpa video?

    by YackBacker

    From last night's spike "awards" show? My God is that clip ripe for the conspiracy-picking!

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:40 p.m. CST

    JENNIFER'S BODY -sorry Diablo

    by lockesbrokenleg

    PA made more money than your piece of shit did.

  • Oct. 28, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST

    But lockes, did PA have a completely...

    by YackBacker

    uninspired lesbian kissing scene that failed to arouse even Hugh Hefner? Noooooo!!!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    ...even if JettL93 IS the real deal...

    by Unknown Canadian

    ...he's still the most pretentious douche I've ever seen on these talkbacks! And that's saying a lot!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Yack...I Just watched Thumbalina Toss Bays Salad..

    by conspiracy

    Oh..you can fucking bet I'm integrating that rim job of a speech into whatever I write about them. Was it me or did she walk with her legs spread just a bit farther apart than usual?</p><p> And you guys though I was joking when I wrote that part about her walking up to Bays Office..humiliated and knowing her place in Hollywood. My stories are fucking Prescient I tell you.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I think Whip It needed one of those Demand it websites.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Hell...Right now...at 10:06pm Pacific Time..

    by conspiracy

    you can bet your bottom dollar that somewhere in the Greater Los Angeles area Megan Fox is servicing whoever Michael told her too.</p><p> Suck it or swing from it baby..but one way or another the Pole is your fucking destiny.</p><p>Spaten Octoberfest Marzen....a top notch fuking brew..it brings out the evil.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by BurnHollywood

    The Romulan super-duper planet-killer fell into the Klingons hands because Orci is a shit writer, and he couldn't come up with another thing for the ship to do for the twenty years it was going to take for baby Kirk to grow up.<p> But apparently this plot diversion was too stupid to use, and they shelved it.<p> If I were a hack writer, I would say that the USS Kelvin did such damage that it took two decades to round up the parts to repair it and go back to being a nuisance again.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    I'm outta here...

    by conspiracy

    Till tomorrow all..

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    BurnHollywood

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The plot was CUT from the movie. It was left out of it, therefore, not canon. Fuck you asshole.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1 a.m. CST

    They should've kept this scene in...

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    There was so many plot holes, one more wouldn't had hurt.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:25 a.m. CST

    JettL - Batman 3 Villians

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Think you can make Penguin, Riddler and Catwoman work, with a few twists to the characters. That make them valid in the Nolanverse and a bit more interesting. Make them as comparissons to key aspects of Bruce's life<p> I would see Penguin, as not a fat guy, but actually a reasonably looking guy that is friends with Bruce, also has a lot of money, an industrialist through legitimate purposes, but unlike Bruce uses some of his money and power for underworld activities. He is simply nicknamed the Penguin, because of his obsession with wearing tuxedos. The Penguin dynamic becomes about abuse of power and privelage in society. <p> Riddler, would be an unseen villian for the most part, an alternative personality of an ex detective, now private detective who is Gotham on the hunt for Batman. His alternate personality could be about his need to have mysteries to solve, to make him feel important and bring meaning to his life, but its all gone too far. Again clearly this is further examining Bruce's need for Batman. <p> Finally Catwoman, who of course doubles as another socialite comparrison to Bruce, a rich woman, who doesn't need to steal, but does for the thrill, the excitement. Bruce again needs Batman for this, to feel thrilled and excited. <p> Ultimately all 3 of them have gone over the edge, Bruce/Batman is treading a very fine line and could also go over that edge. How does he prevent that from happening, whilst taking on these three, being hunted and trying to find some kind of personal redemption. <p> And why am I talking to JettL in a serious fashion, its like talking to an imaginary friend.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:12 a.m. CST

    Miyamoto_Musashi

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    Because you are as nuts as he is? <p>Player two has left the game

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:01 a.m. CST

    JettL93

    by yodalovesyou

    Seems kind of immature, given this is all about a difference of opinion over movies. You people need lessons in diplomacy.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Oh good, more shit from a shitty movie!!

    by AsimovLives

    That's all what we needed, more shit to make our love for cinema fell more abused and miserable. There's never enough shit for some, is there?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:33 a.m. CST

    AICN again pulls down their pants for Jar Jar Abrams

    by AsimovLives

    It's like a Pavlovian reaction. Jar Jar Abrams takes a shit, and AICN runs to eat it all up. Pathetic!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Delta, Gamma....whatever Lockes...

    by TheHumanBurrito

    ....ohno, I slipped on some minor detail because I was too busy with real life! That completely voids my point about several new alien races being encountered during DS9, Lockes!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:49 a.m. CST

    "It's like a Pavlovian reaction."

    by DocPazuzu

    Irony isn't your strong suit, is it, AssLives?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:56 a.m. CST

    It took AssLove 12 hrs to get over his nerd rage

    by Tall_Boy66

    And then he came in with a "Jar Jar Abrams" crack. Oh so witty. Y'see, it's JAR JAR! HAH!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:58 a.m. CST

    12 hrs...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is actually pretty decent time considering he had to contort his way out of a straitjacket first.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:59 a.m. CST

    conspiracy, Vulcans/Romulans are super-strong

    by Tall_Boy66

    This goes back to "Amok Time" where it was demonstrated that Spock had superior strength, and it's not just a Vulcan rage thing ala Teen Spock in ST3, these guys are that strong all the time (and very long lived). Been a staple of Star Trek for awhile now.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Yes it is.

    by Lost Jarv

    He thinks it means "a bit like steel".

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Right...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...as in "how goatses make my penis feel."

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:30 a.m. CST

    This was cut because

    by Drsambeckett1984

    Klingons obviously have a part in the sequel, and they knew thhis wasnt quite right, so chopped it out the film. There are a few more deleted scenes, and I'm really looking forward to seeing them. I loved this film, and i consider myself a die hard trek fan, this film gave me everything i wanted from a star trek movie, and more. <P> Also, DS9 was amazing! I love TNG, but DS9 broke the mold and told a truly epic story, and it had one of the greatest villains in Trek history, Gul Dukat.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:46 a.m. CST

    by Lost Jarv

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:46 a.m. CST

    eh?

    by Lost Jarv

    That was strange. <P>Anyhow, it's funny how this never gets dull.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:47 a.m. CST

    Emperor_was_a_jerk

    by AsimovLives

    The break that Jar Jar Abrams's Shit trek got was the raves it got when was released. The "backlash" is just the inevitable eye opener after the madness died down a bit.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:49 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself, fucking asshole

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself too, asshole

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:50 a.m. CST

    Docpazuzu and Lost Jarv, you two bitches haven't posted for a wh

    by AsimovLives

    You were too entertained fucking each other in your fucking asses to bother to post here, of course. Fucking bitches!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:52 a.m. CST

    AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...are you ever going to answer my question about Lifeforce and the Beastmaster?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Actually, AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...post number 20 is mine, as are at least two more before your goat-smelling carcass trundled in here.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:07 a.m. CST

    AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...you once infamously claimed that there "is no such thing as dumb fun". I therefore ask you to either dismiss Lifeforce and Beastmaster as utter, unredeeming shit or explain the subtexts within them which raise these two movies above the level of shit. <p> See, since you said there is no such thing as "dumb fun", it has to be one of the other options. If you pick option number one, you reveal yourself to be a joyless, hateful, humor-free douchenozzle, and if you pick number two, then you reveal yourself to be a pretentious, sanctimonious suckbag. <p> If you refuse to answer, you reveal that you are, indeed, not only one of those two things, but also terrified of revealing which one. <p> Now, take a deep breath, bite off another piece of Cabra Pimentao, and make your choice.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:09 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu raises the red lantern

    by AsimovLives

    Whom of his concubine bitches will he fuck in the ass tonight? Will it be Lost Jarv? Xiphos_2? Sal_Brando? quantize? So many to chose, so many asses to fuck, so little time. Show somesympathy for poor DocPazuzu's dilemma... up in his fucking ass!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:15 a.m. CST

    I have a dilemma...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...up in my fucking ass?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:24 a.m. CST

    You know what? Asimov, we get it.

    by Drsambeckett1984

    You dont like Abrams Trek, enough already. Lots of us did like it, love it in fact.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:26 a.m. CST

    "Dilemma up the ass"

    by Lost Jarv

    or as the rest of Spain calls it, Portugal. <P>How's life in the landfill, asshole? Still dragging yourself round the room over a foully abused and basically ruined stuffed goat?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Doc-

    by Lost Jarv

    actually, sadly, Lifeforce can be explained intellectually. <P>Anyway, he's not allowed to like it. I forbid him.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Well I guess it's time

    by joshuavance1701

    to come in and instruct some cocksuckers. <p> Firstly, Ass-monger exists is a fiesty uninformed essentially irrelevant peon of the highest caliber and order, therefore he's easily dismissed. <p> Secondly, that turgid flaccid piece of shit Avatar will bomb gloriously. <p> Finally, I know more about Star Trek than any 7 of you obtuse rancid cunts combined. Fuck you hard and running. Star Trek kicked the shit out of your skank ass genre movies this year and was a resounding critical and financial success, having the added benefit of being a KICK-ASS fucking movie. Backlash?? Fuck you Ass-Hat lives it's just won two genre awards for best movie of the year. Two or three tainted cunts do NOT spoil the broth. Star Trek OWNS you.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:31 a.m. CST

    The cry of the terminal virgin:

    by Lost Jarv

    "I know more about Star Trek than any 7 of you obtuse rancid cunts combined." <P>Wow, just wait until you discover women.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:32 a.m. CST

    I want to hear HIM...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...intellectualize over it. See, he either has to admit that Mathilda May's extraordinary tits are either shit, have subtextual meaning or are, simply, dumb fun. <p> Trust me, he can't win this and our enjoyment of the film will increase in proportion to his discomfort.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:32 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST

    See?

    by DocPazuzu

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Honsetly, there is a subtext.

    by Lost Jarv

    and an explanation is easily available on line. <P>Mind you, I've probably sent him into some sort of sweaty palmed frenzy searching wanky critic blogs for it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Discover?

    by joshuavance1701

    I'm a multi-tasker Jarv, you majestic tit-head.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:36 a.m. CST

    hehehe

    by Lost Jarv

    "If you refuse to answer, you reveal that you are, indeed, not only one of those two things, but also terrified of revealing which one. " <P>I don't think that's true. I think he's perfectly capable of being both. <P>You know that his goat gets savagely beasted after a session of this.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:37 a.m. CST

    Pazuzu

    by joshuavance1701

    You powerhouse african demonic force you, don't even try to debate even fecal matter with a whore like Ass-munch, it's better to just watch Star Trek 2009 again and bask in the splendor of a kickass film than argue semantics with someone that bags my groceries.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:37 a.m. CST

    "I'm a multi-tasker"

    by Lost Jarv

    One hand to flog yourself the other to turn the pages of your tatty 1980 Dork Trek annual. <P>I'm stealing "majestic tit-head", though.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:38 a.m. CST

    so Star Trek 2009?

    by Lost Jarv

    Any good?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:39 a.m. CST

    "You powerhouse african demonic force you"

    by DocPazuzu

    Are you raising the red lantern?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Nah Jarv

    by joshuavance1701

    I abandoned the technical manuals in the 80s bro, it's all upstairs stored away for quick recollection when confronted by turd mongers such as assilhoff licks. <p> Trek 09 any good? You betcha, captured the spirit of the original series wondrously. The characterizations were phenomenal.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:41 a.m. CST

    I rather like him.

    by Lost Jarv

    He's got style. Style goes a long way. <P>Something that Assholeblowsgoats should learn.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST

    You've done it now josh

    by Lost Jarv

    You've either induced a full blown grande-mal seizure in him, or opened the door to endless posts of trollish shite about the merits of the original series and how JarJar Abrams (funny, eh) raped his favourite goat and ruined it's arsehole making it no use to him at all. So he ate it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by Drsambeckett1984

    Yes Star Trek 2009 was good.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Trek '09

    by joshuavance1701

    Genes Roddenberry and Coon, and Herb Solow would be pleased. <p> It was one of the most fun occasions I've had at the movies in perhaps 10 years, I had a serious late 70's early 80's vibe I havent felt since seeing some of the more memorable genre flicks of the day, all the seminal classics. That said it all for me.<p> I'm a fairly hardcore fucker slightly older, seen all the classics at the theaters, films don't impress me much today, no heart all eye-candy. <p> I had tears in the first 10 minutes when George Kirk made his noble completely human decision. I havent seen a film that moving in a LONG time.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:51 a.m. CST

    I loved Star Trek

    by DocPazuzu

    ...but I'm no trekkie. I know the original series by heart (through pop cultural osmosis), love ST2, and hate TNG, DS9, Enterprise and Voyager. <p> AssLives' problem is that he has people like me who are easy to dismiss, but then there's Drsambeckett1984, who is a true Star Trek fan and also loves the Abrams movie. This must cause all kinds of disruptions to the warp(ed) drive of his brain.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:52 a.m. CST

    That's the thing Jarv

    by joshuavance1701

    The cunt didn't like the film because he is a child and prefers Enterprise or Voyager, and knows absolutely NOTHING of the original series or what made it the classic it is today. Trek '09 abandoned the pomp, self-important mundane flavor of the past 15 years of Trek and got back to simple basics. Something Trek hasn't been in years - FUN. With a bonafied sense of adventure occuring, not to mention heroes and champions. These fuckers in this movie were heroes all, pure champions, it was totally optimistic and I fucking get into that. <p> Orci and Kurtzman completely get Trek, far more than the majority of reboots of old tv properties such as Lost in Space or Mission Impossible (I liked Lost in space though, it was zany.)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Jarv and PaZooz git the cheroot medals(TM) for the nite.

    by Sal_Bando

    That was great. <p> DavidAsimovLives---your goat called and wants to know if you'll 'bend it like Miley' this time out. Not sure what that's all about---

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:56 a.m. CST

    I fucking hate Star Trek, in all honesty

    by Lost Jarv

    The only one of them I find remotely tolerable is 2. <P>Mrs. Jarv loves Voyager for some fucking reason and as it's on British TV every fucking night I've now endured more hours of that drivel than I care to think about. <P>I keep meaning to give 09 a try as I'm sure I'll probably like it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:56 a.m. CST

    It was the optimism

    by joshuavance1701

    that audiences responded to , that pure, unadulterated, unabashed fun and optimism. <p> It was a refreshing change from the morally grey area anti-heroes of the last 10 years. Youre Wolverines, Batmans, etc etc etc. <p> Sometimes people like good guys to root for and bad guys to hiss at.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:59 a.m. CST

    Well Jarv

    by joshuavance1701

    The first thing you will notice that distinguishes it from the older films is a BUDGET. <p> It looks like a Star Wars film. Star Trek with MONEY. It hyas scale, grand and awe-inspiring.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:01 a.m. CST

    I think the real problem...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...for AssLives is that the women in bras and panties and the sexual vibe in Abrams' Trek made him feel uncomfortable. He can't lash out at that because it would out his chevrophilia so he focuses on absurd minutiae, the kind of which he completely disregards in every other aspect of Trekdom.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:02 a.m. CST

    "The characterizations were phenomenal."

    by Droid

    Horseshit. <p>The "characterisations" were all based on audience recognition of pre-existing characters, or exposition by Bruce Greenwood's character. Poor Eric Bana even manages to give a decent performance despite being given fucking monologues explaining his motivation. <p>The result is a flashy, somewhat enjoyable, completely forgettable space opera. Not terrible, but nowhere near the amazing flick that dorks are self-flagellating about.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:03 a.m. CST

    Abrams' Trek...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...was everything the SW prequels should have been in terms of heart, humor and thrills.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:04 a.m. CST

    Pussy Klingons

    by AsimovLives

    Klingons being pussies and gettingtheir asses kicked is the only thing that actually makes any sense in jar Jar Abrams' Shit Trek. Because if the klingons had been the capable warriors from the old shows, they would had long ago overrun and conquered the whole of the Federation, wish in jar Jar's version is run by pussy teens and inept adults, and who the only people with some fight ability are a bunch of bar brawlers who cna only win a fight by ganging up on an idiot (Nu Kirk) who would lose a fight against a teddy bear.<br><br>Of course, as typically in a Jar Jar Abrams/Bob Porci fuck up movie, there's another can of worms opened with this: if many Klingons can be so easily outmatched by one single romulan civilian, then how the hell has't the romulan empire conquered the klingon empire and the federation already?<br><br>This is the typical result of when idiots like Jar Jar and Porci try to make a "kewl" movie, they don't think thing s through and end up creating retarded pieces of shit that make no sense whatsoever. What fucking asses!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:05 a.m. CST

    "It hyas scale, grand and awe-inspiring."

    by Droid

    "pure, unadulterated, unabashed fun and optimism." <P>Fuck me. Do you speak in anything but hyperbole?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:05 a.m. CST

    Fuck Jar Jar Abrams

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Jar Jar Abrams up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:06 a.m. CST

    I'm scared to look up chevrophilia

    by Lost Jarv

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Fuck Bob Porci

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Bob Porci up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:08 a.m. CST

    "Fuck Jar Jar Abrams up his fucking ass."

    by Droid

    There is a time and a place to express your wanton desires. <P>This is neither the time, nor the place.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Hey droids

    by joshuavance1701

    Fuck you dude, if you can sit here and tell me you didn't get choked up at the beginning sequence, you are either an anhedonic prick, or a God damn liar. <p> The characterizations were PERFECT. The actors inhabited these familiar roles, no easy task especially given instant audience identification with the original actors. And yet, Pine IS Kirk, Quinto IS Spock, Zaldana IS Uhura, Pegg IS Scotty, Urban IS Bones, Yelchin IS Chekov, Cho IS Sulu, you ARE an uninformed asshole.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:09 a.m. CST

    No in Your case DavidAsimov-----

    by Sal_Bando

    -----You fuck all manner of goats, sheep and burros up their collective asses. And if they sign a release form, you promise to look out for their kids---

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Oh, fuck off...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...with that "capable warriors" bullshit, AssLives. Klingons have ALWAYS been pussies. Like I stated earlier, I haven't seen every single episode of every series but I have yet to see a Klingon being a warrior badass. They're all hat and no cattle, plastic armor-wearing poseurs whose main form of intimidation is speaking in a vowel-challenged language and smelling bad.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Joshua...dude I will take a gentlemans bet

    by southafricanguy

    with you that Avatar will do exactly the opposite. In fact I think it will do very well internationally, something Trek (which I liked btw) really failed to do (over 70% of its money was made domestic)...If Im wrong, I wrong. But Camerons b.o record is way better (especially internationally) than Treks.....

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:11 a.m. CST

    chevre

    by DocPazuzu

    =goat

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:13 a.m. CST

    good christ

    by Lost Jarv

    "Of course, as typically in a Jar Jar Abrams/Bob Porci fuck up movie, there's another can of worms opened with this: if many Klingons can be so easily outmatched by one single romulan civilian, then how the hell has't the romulan empire conquered the klingon empire and the federation already?" <P>Have you ever actually seen a naked woman?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:13 a.m. CST

    joshuavance1701

    by Droid

    Do you stick postcards to your wall with your own semen?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:14 a.m. CST

    South African Guy

    by joshuavance1701

    It very well could, it's possible, but Camerons overdue for an "Abyss", he had his money maker in Titanic, has been out of the loop far, far too long. My feeling is Avatar will go either huge hit or dreadful bomb, I'm not envisioning much of a middle ground with it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:15 a.m. CST

    thought it might

    by Lost Jarv

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:15 a.m. CST

    I'll make it even easier for you:

    by DocPazuzu

    Hairy naked women will suffice.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Hey Roids

    by joshuavance1701

    Yeah I do, havent you seen your Mom ankles up spread wide touching her shit stained cooch to my impressive masculine visage? <p> You fat boy you.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST

    hehehehe

    by Lost Jarv

    "...with that "capable warriors" bullshit, AssLives. Klingons have ALWAYS been pussies. Like I stated earlier, I haven't seen every single episode of every series but I have yet to see a Klingon being a warrior badass. They're all hat and no cattle, plastic armor-wearing poseurs whose main form of intimidation is speaking in a vowel-challenged language and smelling bad" <P>Not to mention that they didn't even bitchslap that cunt that glued plastic shit to their foreheads.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Portugal=landfill. Works for me.

    by Sal_Bando

    Kinda like Essex County NJ.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:20 a.m. CST

    "my impressive masculine visage"

    by Droid

    Does your impressive masculine face sooth your anxieties about your small penis?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Klingons aren't pussies

    by joshuavance1701

    If you acknowledge a cut scene, Nero is a Romulan, easily three times the physical strength of a Klingon or human. He's pissed, he's bitter, he's got nothing to lose. Klingons havent been pussified to make Nero look more badass, like say, the Jedis did to make Palpatine more effective, Im thinking of you sleepy Jedi as you got ran through. <p> I dare say I'd do pretty well fighting against three or four men of 120 years ago and having the advantage of better genetics.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:23 a.m. CST

    I think Roids

    by joshuavance1701

    It would be better to ask your Mom, she chokes on it rather frequently.....son. Just don't expect child support payments. Now go get my fries I ordered bitch.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:25 a.m. CST

    JoshVance

    by DocPazuzu

    That scene with Palp and the Jedi is, along with the sail barge scene in ROTJ, the worst staged and edited action scene in the whole saga. Absolute shit.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:25 a.m. CST

    joshua.....hmmm, I actually have the same

    by southafricanguy

    feeling of it either being massive, or a huge bomb. But Cameron has an uncanny knack of bucking most trends/common wisdom ....

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST

    I like the sail barge scene

    by Lost Jarv

    especially the special edition one with more crap cgi and a worrying penis like thing poking out of the hole in the sand. <P>That's really good that is. Well done Lucas.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Do you know what sucks Pazuzu?

    by joshuavance1701

    Gillard had this elaborate outstanding choreographed battle sequence outlined with Sam Jackson and stuntmen, then Lucas decided on the cuff he wanted alot of closeups, so they had to accomodate the day of the filming and rework the entire fight.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:29 a.m. CST

    It's about MAN CATS

    by Lost Jarv

    so therefore will be good. <p>And who gives a fuck about Box Office anyway? <P>Aside from some Portuguese goatfucker who attempts to bend maths to prove that New Trek was a bomb.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:30 a.m. CST

    It would have been fine

    by joshuavance1701

    Had the two Jedi actually parried a couple blows rather than just fucking standing there while Palps runs them through. It wasnt a logical sequence. You can't say they were surprised, Palps fired his blade up and stood there a moment, if Mace has brought Obi-Wan Kenobi with him instead of the sleepy Jedi, that cocksucker Palps would be pushing up daisies.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:30 a.m. CST

    I also like ewoks

    by Lost Jarv

    True story: <P>They were based on the finest looking women from Almada. <P>Lucas thought that the original designs (which were actual photographs) were too hairy, though.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:30 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by DocPazuzu

    The proof of how shit that scene is, is the fact that they digitally added tangled ropes to explain how Han Solo could hang onto the skiff with only his toes. <p> Not to mention the Luke/Boba rope/lightsaber interface. What the fuck happened there? <p> Absolute shit.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:31 a.m. CST

    besides dude, I want all sci-fi films to be good

    by southafricanguy

    and do well (so Hollywood will make more). Any sci-fi film failing does nt make Trek better. Im glad trek was a success, and if Avatar is good, then i hope it does well too...

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST

    "based on the finest looking women from Almada"

    by DocPazuzu

    Hey, orange juice--instead of being swallowed, how about you exit again through DocP's nose? <p> Jarv, you bastard.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST

    This is all true

    by Lost Jarv

    It isn't the best scene.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:35 a.m. CST

    Correct me if I'm wrong

    by Lost Jarv

    because it's been a long time since I've seen untampered with star wars (fuck you lucas) but I don't remember there being a sort of penis shaped thing in the Sarlaac Pit before the "special school" editions.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:35 a.m. CST

    JoshVance

    by DocPazuzu

    Worst bit: Palp pulls his saber waaaay back and holds it there for like a second as if saying "heeeere we go" and then plunges it leisurely forward into a Jedi who was standing with his back toward him. <p> WTF?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:36 a.m. CST

    No penis.

    by DocPazuzu

    Just anus.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:36 a.m. CST

    joshuavance1701

    by Droid

    I just asked "mom" and she doesn't know anyone who's name is so effeminate that it makes you sound like the meat in a Boy George/Freddie Mercury sandwich. <p>And you should probably lay off the fries. Fat rolls are not an attractive quality. I hear blokes can be very demanding, even when it comes to their cum receptacles.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Oh MY

    by joshuavance1701

    Am I to assume someone busted out their Mr. McGee/Guy smiley investigative skills and determined where ass face shit munch domeciles?? That's....splendidly grand. <p> Yeah Pazuzu, Mace woke those fuckers up out of bed evidently. Or he slapped a couple blades in the hands of the Jedi janitors since basically everyone else was gone fighting. Those two Jedi SUCKED.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:39 a.m. CST

    To the foul-mouthed scumbag called Asimovlives

    by geckobrothers

    If you blame J. J. Abrams and Co. for, as you said "they don't think thing s through and end up creating retarded pieces of shit that make no sense whatsoever." Just take a look at these videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzoeEdW-EDQ Or a famous director's quote: "Why don't the Indians just shoot the horses?" "Because, then the movie would be over!"

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:41 a.m. CST

    Hey Roids

    by joshuavance1701

    You tired insipid shit stick, I get on here with MY name fucker, how many aliases do you have on here? Fatboys love hiding behind that internet anonymity don't they, they can talk a mean talk online, but when it matters....Clean up on aisle 9 Roids.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:45 a.m. CST

    No, sadly, there were no marlowe esque

    by Lost Jarv

    investigative skills needed. <P>He told us. <p>He's from a place that Ethopia regularly puts on benefit gigs for.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:47 a.m. CST

    The original dialogue for that scene went

    by Lost Jarv

    Jabba: "I'm sick of you jedi fuckspoons so I'm shipping you to Almada where you will die of 1 million flea bites" <P>Luke "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:51 a.m. CST

    joshuavance1701

    by Droid

    The fact that the best you could do was immediately resort to a "Mom" insult clearly leads me to believe you're an overweight, friendless basement dweller with a slight case of down syndrome caused by some yet to be identified bloke dumping his turgid, drug-addled semen into a desperate, flop sweat, 300lb, trailer trash creature that shat you out 9 months later on the grimy floor of a truckstop bathroom in between handing out blowjobs to truckers for 2 bucks a pop. <p>Clean up on isle 9? Looks like you've got a new addition to the family. Congrats.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:01 a.m. CST

    What I really want to know...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is AssLives' take on The Men Who Stare At Goats (A Love Story).

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:04 a.m. CST

    I nearly puked laughing when I saw the trailer to that

    by Lost Jarv

    on TV yesterday. Mrs Jarv gave me "the look" that all women seem to have when their other half is doing something that they deem to be retarded.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Ouch

    by Lost Jarv

    that post of Droid's is savage and funny.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Yep...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...there is some classic TB insultage being traded between Josh and Droid here today. <p> Well played, gentlemen.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Phenomenal characterizations in Jar Jar Abrasm's Shit Trek:

    by AsimovLives

    1- Turning Kirk into an irritating punk ass asshole who could win a fight against a teddy bear.;<br>2- Turning Spock into a human, and an emo human at that;<br>3- Turning Uhura into a bitchy gold-digger who progresses in her career thanks to his boyfriend's influence;<br>4- Chekov, whose only characterization is to have a thick fake russian accent and do the stuff that was the normal province of both Scotty and Spock; 5- Sulu knows swordfighing and that's all;<br>6- Scotty has a weird ass looking alien as a pet;<br> 7- Nero, to call him a cypher is to be too generous with his "characterization";<br> 8- Capt. Pike, who is in the movie as Basil Exposition and as a plot device.<br><br>I'm not even going to bother with naming any other character because frankly, there's no real characters as such in the traditional notion of the word, just a collection of uninteresting cyphers. Truly, i'm yet to find in Jar Jar's Shit Trek anything i should mistake for a "phenomenal characterization".

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:10 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Heads up

    by DocPazuzu

    Media Messiah is back to his inane "Jet Propulsion Laboratory Sex Cult" drooling in the Avatar TB.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST

    what utter bullshit

    by Lost Jarv

    "Chekov, whose only characterization is to have a thick fake russian accent and do the stuff that was the normal province of both Scotty and Spock;" <P>As opposed to the deep characterisation he had before? Do fuck off.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST

    I may have scared off Mr Joshua

    by Droid

    Too harsh?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    AssLives

    by DocPazuzu

    1) Right, let's have Kirk a fully formed and seasoned Admiral even before he joins the Academy. <p> 2) Right, let's have a fully formed and maturely controlled half-Vulcan who has had no conflicting emotions because of his mixed species background. <p> 3) "Bitchy gold-digger"? WTF? I think you mean "super hot in bra and panties". <p> 4) Right, let's spend time meandering and developing EVERY SINGLE secondary character in this introductory film rather than flesh them out in subsequent outings. <p> 5) Ditto. <p> 6) It's not a pet, you racist. <p> 7) Right, let's have a flamboyant villain who takes even MORE attention away from the introduction of the Kirk/Spock dynamic and grinds the plot to a halt. Nero IS a ipher villain because the movie is an introduction and a setup. Villainous flamboyance and complexity is extraneous in this case. <p> 8) In what way was Pike unnecessarily expository? <p> Do try to think these things through before posting, will you?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Ok. Everyone calm down

    by Drsambeckett1984

    It was just a movie!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:22 a.m. CST

    This is a good old fashioned AICN day

    by Lost Jarv

    unabashed insanity, flame wars, the occasional chat, and bullshit rumour. <P>Oh and a trailer of some CGI shit that people are deriding for being "Too cartoony". <P>*wipes nostalgic tear from eye*

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:29 a.m. CST

    It's easier to say what is good in Jar Jar's Shit Trek:

    by AsimovLives

    The cast. A pretty good bunch of actors. I particulary love Zachary Quinto as Spock, he's dead perfect for the role. Too bad he was burdeon with the Spock characterization they gave him to play, aka, Emo Spock. What a waste of an excelent piece of casting. Karl Urban is nice as Bones because he's a pretty good actor to begin with, and half his lines are paraphrasings from the TOS. He gets to be a good Bones by osmosis. Zoe Saldana is a sweet girl to look at, and i suspect she has real acting shops, sadly she was saddled with the second most infuriating bitch character for the whole show, second only to Pseudo-Kirk. And the least said about Pseudo-Kirk the better.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:33 a.m. CST

    *Yawn*

    by Lost Jarv

    Fuck me. You're like a broken record. <P>I stopped reading at "Emo Spock" because I know exactly what the rest of it will say.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST

    In the real world..

    by lprothro

    ..everyone loves this movie. Nerds and dullards alike. The only hatred I see directed towards this film has been on this site. Too many angry aspiring screenplay writers, I think.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Where's the Tony Scott/Chippendale movie TB?

    by Droid

    Make it happen!!!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Too many angry aspiring screenplay writers, I think.

    by Lost Jarv

    Nope. Just one terminally frustrated wank addled portuguese virgin making enough noise to deafen the Gods themselves.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:54 a.m. CST

    LOST JARV

    by lprothro

    Then I stand humbly corrected, sir.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:58 a.m. CST

    It's an easy mistake to make

    by Lost Jarv

    on the basis that he fills every TB regardless of subject with angry love poems to Jar Jar Abrams. <P>I'm starting to think he's actually Stan and has his girlfriends body in the boot of his car.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, let me ask you this:

    by AsimovLives

    Do you need to be a car engineer to know if a car is good or bad? Do you need to be an architect to kmow if a house is good or bad? So, does one has to be a scriptwriter to know a good or bad script?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST

    You guys can complain and bitch back and forth

    by vin_diggler

    all you want, But the fact is, you all saw the movie and J.J. is laughing all the way to the bank. You want to stop J.J., then turn of the TV and pick up a book.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Jar Jar Abrams's Shit Trek appologism is like creationism:

    by AsimovLives

    It starts with a pre-defined dogma, in this case, that Jar Jar Abrasm's Shit Trek HAS to be a good movie, and then they work out excuses for it. The typical way creationism works to justify faith by bending logic and facts to fit their pre-defined dogma. Same shit.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Huzzah!

    by toadkillerdog

    I echo DocP that there is some damn good TB insultage going on in here. <p> Pray continue gentlemen.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Don't try this witrh me, nob jockey

    by Lost Jarv

    As I know where that quote originally came from and who it referred to. <P>And no, I'm sure that Orci is not Milton. <P>I would contend, though, that you are no Dr. Johnson.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:14 a.m. CST

    oh, Klingons aren't pussies

    by BendersShinyAss

    sure they have a strange imature idea of what warrior's actually are, they are murderous tyrants and keep their consciounces clear by being honerable to their own race. <p>dare i compare them to neo-cons? <p>they WILL challenge you and they WILL kill you. thats why Trek 6 was such a good film. they had an obligation and a duty to help them in their crisis. The Klingons can never be trusted, and the federation can never be brought to their level. <p>pussies? those cunts have got their shit together in an obscure way. Romulans are the pussies. visious and self serving. beware romulans bareing gifts

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Absolute booooooollloooooocks

    by Lost Jarv

    "It starts with a pre-defined dogma, in this case, that Jar Jar Abrasm's Shit Trek HAS to be a good movie, and then they work out excuses for it. The typical way creationism works to justify faith by bending logic and facts to fit their pre-defined dogma. Same shit." <P>No it doesn't "Have" to be a good movie- and there are, as we've argued about before- different levels to enjoy a film on. <P>May I refer you to DocP's post about Lifeforce above? I see you still haven't answered it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    lprothro

    by AsimovLives

    In the really real world, only a segment of the american population liked Jar Jar Abrams's Shit Trek. Abroad aka the rest of the world, the movie flopped, taking about half the american box office, not even earning enough to equal the movie's PRODUCTION budget alone.<br> In the REAL real world, the whole wide world is not merely reduced ONLY to the USA. I'm sure you understand what i'm saying. I'm affraid you'll have to stand corrected again, friend.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    and lifeforce is terrible

    by BendersShinyAss

    if it wasnt for mathilda's jigglers there would be no remaining copies

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:18 a.m. CST

    dare i compare them to neo-cons?

    by Lost Jarv

    No. And stop talking bollocks.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    Then explain why Jar Jar Abrasm's Shit Trek should be mistaken for a good movie without using the old tired "because it's fun" nonsense that means nothing at all. And explain and justify away the movie's numerous logical misteaps and nonsensical plotting. You can start with the whole Hoth sequence.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Fuck off.

    by Lost Jarv

    Lifeforce is amazing. <P>I'm not having that.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:20 a.m. CST

    I'm not defending it

    by Lost Jarv

    and "because it's fun" is a perfectly valid reason to enjoy something.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    asimove... trek didn't flop

    by BendersShinyAss

    dick

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by geckobrothers

    Explaining "Hoth" sequence? I would say: strange coincidence like, let's say: shooting a dead body on a genesis-created planet which ressurects the body and being back there (halfway through the galaxy) just in time, when the ressurected body has grown to the exact age it was in the previous movie... wow, that's quite a coincident isn't it?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:32 a.m. CST

    trek box office

    by BendersShinyAss

    http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/StarTrek.php <p>trek flopped. hahahahahaah

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Box Office for Star Trek:

    by Lost Jarv

    (I can't believe I'm doing this) <P>US: $257,730,019 <P>World: $127,223,652 <P>Total: $384,953,671 <P>Budget: $150,000,000 <P>How on earth did a film that made 2 1/2 times it's budget back "flop". <P>You really are a cunt. <P>Anyway, I don't know about the asshole of Europe, but here there was mass indifference to Star Trek which gradually vanished as word of mouth spread that it wasn't as shit as the TV series. I know a lot of people that say they wish they'd seen it on the big screen. <P>I didn't know you had Cinemas in Portugal, does someone throw a sheet over a corrugated iron shack while someone else unwinds the reel in front of a candle? I can see how that would be jerky and rubbish,

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    DocP- You have to see this:

    by Lost Jarv

    "BTW...do you know that plastic is alive," <P>Fucking hell.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Look at the fucking Torrents!.. this is old shit.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Droid

    I saw it on a dvdrip so may i be excused from turning off the tv and picking up a book?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Abrams Star Trek blu-dvdrip has been leaked weeks ago!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:47 a.m. CST

    falls off chair

    by BendersShinyAss

    oh thats funny im going to hell

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Right with you Jarv. It was the same in Europe. Word of mouth spread, the reviews raved about how good it was, and people caught it several weeks into the run. Loads of people I know are gutted they missed it. Everyone I know who saw it loved it.<p> I dragged my girlfriend to it, she was not looking forward to it at all as it was Star Trek and the TV show and quite few of the previous movies were tedious to her. She loved it and wants to watch it again when I get the Blu Ray in a couple of weeks. Ditto all the other girls in our group who went to see it together. So I would say that, in opening up the franchise to a whole new audience who wouldn't be seen dead around anything to do with the Star Trek brand - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.<p> Other family and friends who were ambivalent to Trek and needed to be persuaded to go see it also reported loving it. Trek was so dull / damaged / geeky etc. in the eyes of everyone but the hardcore that the business this film did can only be classed as a MONUMENTAL SUCCESS.<p> I understand that people who took Trek to their hearts "through the dark times" can have a serious problem with this, but without this film the brand would be dead and buried for the mainstream. Deal with it.<p> And to try and say this was a bad film, just because it doesn't fit a personal Trek sensibility, and then to nit-pick and sieze upon everything as an example of why it is a bad film just marks you out as one of those guys who cannot accept the truth. That his girlfriend has dumped him and moved on. "We haven't split up, she still has my number in her phone!". You will say anything, do anything, cover your eyes to the truth and scream at the storm, but in the end, you are single, and she is getting fucked by somebody considerably better in bed than you.<p> IMPORTANT POINT RE: DELETED SCENES - This is not them in their entirety. They are longer, and there is more of them on the DVD / Blu Ray. I only hope it has seamless branching.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    well if you did not shell out your hard earned money...

    by vin_diggler

    then you have no need to complain. If it sucked so bad, you can just delete it and you are not out a dime.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    It is true

    by Lost Jarv

    I haven't seen it, to be honest, because of my hatred of all things Trek, and I'm kicking myself. I'll catch it on DVD.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Droid

    If you scroll up a bit to find my only post on the film (disregard the spat with the joshua bloke) then you'll see that I'm not complaining, merely providing a critique. I stated it was mildly enjoyable, yet instantly forgettable. Just because you adore it doesn't invalidate other peoples opinions, nor does it mean that a negative opinion of the film is automatically a complaint. <p>Get your facts straight before you mouth off, champ.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    every time I start to cuddle up to beluga-trek

    by son_of_ebert

    somebody has to go and make a bullet list of points that I completely agree with but had forced myself to forget.. <p>like when your new girlfriend doesn't fuck as good as the last but you didn't throw away the tapes.. DAMN YOU DIGITAL MEDIA!!!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    wow you got me all wrong.

    by vin_diggler

    I never even stated my opinion of the film either way. And by know means was I attacking you or anyone else. I was just saying, if you want to make J. J. go away, then stop filling his pockets by seeing his films and tv shows. This was just a statement in general, not pointed directly at you bro.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by Droid

    You will see it and wonder what all the fuss is about. I can understand that for a trekkie it would be considered good, but that's because star trek as a general rule is boring shite. <p>You will see it, be mildly entertained and move on with your life.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    That does sound like me. To be honest.

    by Lost Jarv

    I want to really like it just because Asimov Hopkins: Goatfucker General loves it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Droid

    Fair enough. My mistake.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    er. Whoops

    by Lost Jarv

    "because Asimov Hopkins: Goatfucker General hates it." <P> Mea Culpa

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    This Talkback has become a thing of beauty!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    My goodness, you can actually feel the heat from the flames!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Goatfucker hates it beyond any realm of reason

    by Droid

    It's such a ridiculous, insane hatred to what is really a non-entity. <p>Star Trek is the film equivalent of Colin Firth. It's completely average, non-threatening, and if you think about it too much, a bit crap, and you can't really understand why so many people adore it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    I fucking hate Colin Firth

    by Lost Jarv

    and want him to fuck off to corprophilia porn and never blacken my screen again.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Okay, for you replace Colin Firth with...

    by Droid

    Paul Rudd.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Colin Firth, best Actor Oscar Nom 2009.

    by Series7

    A Single Man

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    UH OH Jarv!

    by Series7

    The Firth is in St Trinian's 2: The Legend of Fritton's Gold!!! <P> I guess he's gone and ruined your favorite francise.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Fair enough

    by Lost Jarv

    I still don't get the boner for Rudd.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I like the old black and white St. Trinians

    by Lost Jarv

    This new version can fuck off. <P>Alastair Sims, George Cole etc were genius.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by rogueleader66

    Excellent point, it's not like this is the first time Trek has had stuff like this happen. <P>Another good example would be from the BEST Trek movie, ST II:TWOK. Now let me preface this by saying that TWOK is my favorite Trek movie and I am in no way trying to discredit it's greatness in any way, just using it as an example of how in just about every Trek film there is a convenient coincidence. <P>The USS Reliant didn't know that Ceti Alpha 6 had blown up? When it came into the system, didn't normal scans pick up on the fact that an ENTIRE PLANET was missing? My point is even the best of Trek has it's faults. It does not lessen the greatness of the film for me, but it is convenient that no one noticed a missing planet. <P>To the haters (and dear God I am so sick of saying this but I have to, one last time), yes I enjoyed the new Trek, and saw it again recently and still enjoy it, so the theory that in time people who loved it will see it for the "shit" that it is, is incorrect, at least for me. I have been watching Trek since I was a kid so no one can say I am not a Trek fan, and I have a few friends who are even bigger Trekkies than myself, and they liked it as well. I am also tired of hearing that if you liked the new Trek you don't know what good movies are. Fuck that, nobody, NOBODY tells me what I do or do not know (like Ice Cube said in Boyz n' The Hood "You dont know what the fuck I be motherfuckin knowin"), or that my opinions are worthless or any of that bullshit. Unless you know me personally, you have no right to pass judgement on me or anyone for that matter, because my opinion differs so radically from yours. I have said it a million fucking times before, opinions are just that, OPINIONS, no one opinion is any more correct than another and if you think otherwise then you really are a fool. Just for the record as well, I am not addressing this to any one in particular, just the haters in general. Those whom I respect on here know who they are and should not take offense to anything I have said. Rant over. Please continue.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I dislike Trek

    by nobbythehappyelf

    In pretty much all of its formats As does Mrs Elf. Oddly enough however we both really enjoyed this and shall be picking up the DVD when it's released. We're both looking forward to the sequel as well.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Nobby The Happy Elf.....

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    ....in just 3 short lines of text, sums it up perfectly, Long Live New Trek!!!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Dude_gimme_tabs

    by rogueleader66

    Truth be told, I am tired of this subject, the lines are drawn, those of us who liked it, those of us who didn't. The constant debate has not convinced anyone to change their opinions, and it never will. The arguments are now just repetitions of things already said a million damn times already. True we all keep coming back to the discussion, but seriously, there is no point to it anymore. But who are we kidding, we will jump into this stupid pointless debate whenever it we see it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    actually

    by son_of_ebert

    my preference is solely based on the most recent post.. so nice to not have to think anymore!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Klingons as this supposedly fierce race of warriors

    by Rapmaster C

    How often have the Klingons been shown to be this truly terrifying, hard-as-nails band of killing machines? They got their asses handed to them in "Way of the Warrior", when the Federation's tried-and-tested fighting style of a double-axe handle to the stomach and head cleaned their clocks. When Klingons are being blown away by Bajoran security officers, there's something wrong. Even in "The Killing Game Part 2", Voyager's Doctor says something along the lines of "Klingons are some of the greatest warrirors in the galaxy!". And I just thought "When did they get that reputation?" They've rarely been shown to be a dominant force. In terms of ships, it was always the Romulans who looked like they could waltz all over the Federation if they decided to invade. And in terms of soldiers, the Jem'Hadar were involved in some of the best bouts of fisticuffs in Trek history. Sisko was hammering them in "The Search Part 1", and they still took him down in the end. As for the new movie, yeah it was brilliant. It was the first time in a long time when Trek seemed really fun - a big bright adventure, with great special effects, humour and compelling characters. Chris Pine's Kirk is up there with Daniel Craig's Bond, as a reboot which was absolutely fascinating to watch. Bring on the sequel.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    RogueLeader.... so right!

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    And as sure as night follows days, we will convince ourselves that we are not conformist pussies, but those that argue are contrary motherfuckers, and until the day the internet ceases to function, somebody will still be on it yelling as fast as their little fat fingers can type, that black is white.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is flat out lying when he says Star Trek only got good reviews in America and Britain, the latter of which he accused of merely copying the U.S. The fact is, Abrams' Trek has received the best reviews worldwide of any Star trek movie ever.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by AsimovLives

    klingons are pussies in Jar Jar Abrams's Shit Trek, as the clip above showed. Several Klingon Warriors got their asses kicked by one romulan civilian. It's the complete pussification of the klingons. Jar Jar Abrams and Bob Porci are not content until they turn everybody in Star Trek into emos and pussies.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Rickey thinks you people are out of your damn fool minds

    by Rickey Henderson

    There's a wide variety of seriously misanthropic wankery going on in this TB and Rickey digs it!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Dude_gimme_tabs

    by AsimovLives

    What are you calling Europe? The UK? You know who gave, in the UK, rave reviews for Shit Trek? The same who gave for Terminator 4 and Transformers 2. Check our Empire and Total Film magazines as examples. And the later, with it's review for District 9, subtly admited that no SF movie released before had been really any good.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, if you want to have a conversation witn me...

    by AsimovLives

    ... call me by my nick. Or else get fucked and go fuck yourself. Compreendes, paneleiro de merda?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by AsimovLives

    Abroad, Shit Trek made less then it's production budget. Abroad, Shit Trek flopped.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by geckobrothers

    You always turn the arguments the way you need them, don't you? Now Abrams turns everybody in "emos" and a few posts back you aren't happy with the barfighting Kirk... What the hell do you want to see? Best way for you will be to stick with Voyager. This Lady-Captain is a real tough guy, a die hard negotiater... "Don't fire you're weapons, i'll argue them into peace or they'll die of boredom." 1. You take Star Trek way too serious. 1. All your talk about good or bad storytelling is irrelevant, because from my point of view, you don't have a clue what is really strong storytelling (none of the st-movies belongs in this category!)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Asimov

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Nope, I mean the whole of Europe. In the UK I think the good reviews were only limited to..... oh I don't know.... like EVERY NATIONAL NEWSPAPER for starters. And no offense buddy, because I am sure you are a nice guy, smart, popular at parties and you smell great, but I would generally take an Empire or Total Film opinion of a good movie rather than rantings which, let's be honest, are starting to come across as ever so slightly unhinged. The Star Trek train has left the station and you weren't on it. That's fine, but no excuse to try and derail it for everbody else.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, noon CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    "Because it's fun" just means somebody found something fun. but it doesn't explain at all why something should be considered good. That's the issue about Shit Trek.<br><br>and i'm waiting for your explanation for why Shit Trek should be mistaken for a good movie. You can start with the Hoth sequence. Will wait.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by AsimovLives

    Two wrongs do not kake a right. Jar Jar Abrams and Bob Porci still fucked up. Don't justify their shit on the mistakes of others.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    joshuavance1701

    by AsimovLives

    "Fuck you dude, if you can sit here and tell me you didn't get choked up at the beginning sequence, you are either an anhedonic prick, or a God damn liar"<br><br> Or maybe some people are not so easily fooled and manipulated by the most basic shallow atempt at melodrama. Not being an emo doesn't mean heartless. And that's the thing.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    by geckobrothers

    A movie is produced with one budget. If the movie worldwide makes 250% of it's production cost then it is a worldwide hit. In Germany it was with 9 million euros secondbest movie behind Transformers... can't remember one single Trek movie that had such an impact and was so present in TV and Newspapers.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Dude_gimme_tabs

    by AsimovLives

    No, man, you are talking UK, alright. The rest of Europe, the movie underperformed. And you know, i don't take reviews all that seriously when EVERY POSITIVE review said the exact same thing, a complete copy and paste from Paramount Pictures advertizment.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Klingons are pussies, though

    by Rapmaster C

    They've been having their asses handed to them for years. They were easily dispatched by a self-destructing Enterprise in "The Search for Spock". They were run out of Cardassian territory by the Dominion. They were manipulated by the Romulans into having a civil war. Kira takes on several Klingons, gets stabbed, pulls out the knife and gives the attacker an absolute pasting. Jake Sisko brought a roof down on a couple of fierce Klingons once. Oh yes, and the Klingons threatened their own existence with the accident on Praxis in "The Undiscovered Country". And for what reason? An epic, bloody battle waged by honourable warriors? Nope, "overmining and insufficient safety precautions".

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by geckobrothers

    In comparison with the "Spock is alive... again" Coincident, the, as you call it "Hoth" Coincident is minor. Give me one single Hollywood-Movie which is free of strange coincidents! ST-2009 is a fast, entertaining, stylish, cool, touching movie. All these adjectives weren't related to Star Trek since TOS. So the movie accomplished in bringing everything back to it's basics. If you don't like it: ignore it and stick with th collectors edition of ds9 or voyager.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    *sigh*

    by Lost Jarv

    You've already heard from another European. <P>How the fuck do you know anyway what happened in the rest of Europe, or even the rest of Portugal, outside of that fucking dump you live in? <P>FYI dickhead, it did underperform here as well- because it's Star Trek.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    hey its the goatfucker thread!

    by Xiphos_2

    Its the tread for the OCD fueled, Nerd Trek obssessed, deviant goat fucker. Its what his sad chicken corn holing life is all about. Of course the goatfucker is Portugese so that's not out of the norm.<p>Memories of an asshole lifes entire existence is really about how much the goatfucker LOVES JJ Abrams Dork Trek. Don't let the barn yard animal rapist fool you, the fake nerd rage is all an act. He has a shire to Kutzman, Orci and Abarms. I bet MoM even prances around his goat herder hovel in Portugal in a homespun t-shirt that looks like Kirks that says "I Luvs me some JJ's Nerd Trek".<p>I now await your next limp homophobic reply goatfucker. no wait I don't becasue it will be dopey like you sheep shagger.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    That's funny

    by Lost Jarv

    I've got a horrid image of a fat, greasy unshaven douchebag prancing around in his underoos, complete with above t-shirt and glued on plastic shit on his forehead.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    ASIMOV

    by lprothro

    ..Overseas box office numbers? You're really reaching there, bro. In the really, really, real world, no one obsesses this much over a movie that came out 1/2 a year ago. Time to move on, "friend".

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    I'm reallyu trying to be civil here because i really want honest opinions from you about this subject. If you are my enemy, at least i have to understand a bit of your mind. I owe you that much.<br><br>Remember, in my past post, i mention PRODUCTION budget. I even caplocked the word PRODUCTION in a previous post. The point is that a movie's cost doesn't end with the production costs alone. There's also advertizement costs. And for blockbusters like Shit Trek, studios generally spend amounts from 50 to 100 million dollars. Remember Jurassic Park, a movie which became famous, among other things, that the advertizement cost was bigger then the movie's production budget itself? Jurassic Park is an exception, but serves as an example by exageration. Mocies like Shit Trek have huge advertizement costs. And tghose have to be payed up with the box office intakes. I wouldn't be suprised if Shit Trek advertizement had been as high as 70 millions. If we take that figure as good, then the movie's real cost is about 220 millions. Could be even bigger then this.<br><br>But the bigfgest issue is not even this, but another. One which, unfortunatly, nobody as any real info to go by. We know the box office numbers of Shit Trek. but what we don't know, and on this Paramount has not been clear, is if those box office numbers are tuicket booth sales or the cut that Paramount got after the distributors got their share. And the distributors shares can be 50% of the ticket price, both in US and foreign soil. So, the 350 millions or so that Shit Trek claims to hav emade at the box office, is that the Paramoutn cut, or just general box office numbers without accounting for the distributors' share? Do you have that info? Because it really makes a world of difference to say if Shit Trek is really that big commercial sucess it claims to be, or if it's all still just first weedend projections optimism.<br><br>The real money will come from DVD and blue-ray sales and rentals. Nobody doubts that. It will make a killing on the home entertaiment market. And that's where Shit Trek movie will finally truly boast the commercial sucess which, frankly, up to this, has been more a case of studio boasting them real verified numbers with all things considered.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Here's a question for you, AsimovLives:

    by DocPazuzu

    Why is it you use Star Trek B.O. numbers as an argument against the movie, yet when the Transformer defenders cite B.O:, you scream "box office means nothing!" <p> Will wait.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    lprothro

    by AsimovLives

    The funny thing is, i don't actually car emuch about box office numbers. A movie's quality is not determined by that. But boxo fofice has been one of the few validations that the Shit trek appologists have been systematically used to justify their support of the movie. Well, given that it's one of their arguments, and i find it a shaky argument, i'll coment on that. But frankly, box offcie means nothing in term sof quality. I mean, if that was the case, then LA confidential would be a really shitty movie and Transformers 2 would be one of the best movies ever made in the history of cinema, right? And that's silly.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    Frist of all, i'd like to thank you for using my correct nick. Just because i hate your guts doesn't mean that i can't appreciate a small cortesy.<br><br>Secondly, i think i could say i answered your latest question in my previous post adressed to lprothro. I was writing it at the same time you posted your question. Check it out, please.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Xiphos_2

    by AsimovLives

    Behave.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    And i'm sure the best reviewed Star Trek ever

    by AsimovLives

    is still Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Are you lecturing me and patronising me?

    by Lost Jarv

    Oh. My. God. Blow me.<P>However, I owe you a point of clarity and basic maths to crush the nonsense you're spouting about receipts. <P>Look at it this way, I wouldn't be surprised if Paramount received 60% of that money back- Marketing spend & Budget is at $220m. <P>Overall then 60% of box office still puts them $10m in the black. <P>Therefore, everything they make on DVD (which will be huge) is pure profit. <P>Stop trying to bend figures to make it appear that something has flopped when it clearly hasn't.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    and to be honest,

    by Lost Jarv

    for a Star Trek movie to make more than a tenner in the UK is a right fucking achievement. <P>By any reasonable measure it was a success.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    i don't fuck goats

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    i make love to them. <p> anyway, fuck avatar. long live star trek and star wars!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    ASIMOVLIVES

    by lprothro

    Good point, man. I still must admit I'm somewhat baffled by your one-man crusade on this film, though. I was bored to death by "Dark Knight" (yeah I was that one guy)and yet I dont spaz out when folks gush over that pretentious snoozefest. Did you get mugged by the crew or something? Cheers, buddy!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    best star trek movie is:

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    first contact. space zombies. 'nuff said.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Oh, bullshit.

    by DocPazuzu

    Star Trek 2 got the best reviews in the U.S. of all the Trek movies, but certainly not the rest of the world, and definitely not Portugal. Khan was trashed in Sweden, for example, whereas Abrams' Trek got glowing reviews. <p> You can't keep having it both ways.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    From Total Film's October issue:

    by AsimovLives

    They gave 4 stars and they end their review this way:<br>"Funny: you wait years for a quality sci-fi tale to show up, then two beam down in the same season. Courtesy of Duncan Jones (Moon) and Bloomkamp, the genre's giving us hope for the future again."<br><br>What's interesting is that a few months before, this very same magazine gave Shit Trek a 4 star review as well. i can't help but seeing in this an admission,m hidden and subtle, but an admission nontheless, that they made an error in judgement on Shit Trek. Like most criics in Britain and USA, they fell into and rided the hype wave. It's not uncommon. It hapens every year, in fact. always every year a bad movie gets over-hyped, and a good mvoie gets underrated and pissed and despised by critic is and audiences alike. And by the end of the year, or a few years later, people scratch their heads and say "what the hell was i thinking?". The latest case of this type of misguidness was when Transformers 1 got a pretty good majority of positive reviews. and for reasons which, all squeezed, meant nothing. It was just emotionalisms and repeating the hype one-liners. As it was with TYransformers 1, the negatives went into great details to explain why the movie were failures, and the positive opinions was all just reduced to emotional gushings and repetitions and variations of "because i had fun". And when you have one side of an pinion which had it all detailed of why it fails and the positives is just couch jumping emotionalism, i'm affraid but i have to consider the detailed opinions as the better one and the ones closer to the truth.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    I'm not trying to have it both ways, and that's the point. It's the supporters that try it both ways. And make a mess of it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    When you say:

    by DocPazuzu

    1) "Trek flopped at the box office! HAHA!" <p> 2) "Transformers box office means nothing! HAHA!" <p> ...you are having it both ways.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Oh and...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...you DO know that reviewers for movie magazines don't always have the same opinions, right? In fact, some magazines, like Empire and Total Film make it a point to present contrasting opinions occasionally.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    lprothro

    by AsimovLives

    OK then. But i find it puzzling that you got bored by THe Dark Knight. Me, i was enthralled by it from begining to end. As i watched it, i was thinking "this is how you do it". THe Dark Knight is the type of movie that is a one movie school on how to make a blockbuster, and not needing to go dumb to make it work for a big audience. And that movie will only get more accolades with time, not less.<br><br>Funny that form your perspective you call it a crusade. I call it telling as i see it. And this movie hurted me. Not as Star Trek (i eventually saw the whole of TOS after the movie), but as a piec eof very bad cinema. I haven't been mroe insulted by a movie since the last time i saw a Michael Bay movie, and that would be Transformers 1. And as damning goes, it can't get any worst.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Don't bother with UK Film magazines

    by Lost Jarv

    The Guardian loved it

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Try this-

    by Lost Jarv

    5 fucking stars.<P> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/may/08/star-trek

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    AssLives

    by DocPazuzu

    Why is it you can call people "Jar Jar Abrams" and "Michael Gay", but you are somehow above this treatment? <p> Get the fuck out of here with that shit...

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    This is the best bit

    by Lost Jarv

    and also gives a small clue into what we think about Star Trek generally: <P>"Unlike George Lucas's massively encumbered and obese Star Wars prequel-trilogy, this new Star Trek is fast-moving, funny, exciting warp-speed entertainment and, heaven help me, even quite moving - the kind of film that shows that, like it or not, commercial cinema can still deliver a sledgehammer punch. It sure didn't feel like a trek to me." <P>I suspect that if you'd ever got your semen stained fan fic into production he'd have given it nothing.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    And yet the point is that review of District 9 is total Film's OFFICIAL OPINION. And they say that, that only with District 9 and Moon they got the real good Sf movies of the year. It is backtracking from their former position of Shit Trek. At least from Total Film. And empire has been disapointing me mroe and more with time. Those are the same assclowns who gave Terminator 4 a 4 stars review. I don't care how much i hate you or you hate me, but you got to agree with me on this: giving Terminator 4 a 4 stars review IS INSANE! It's just fucking wrong!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    "all it telling as i see it. And this movie hurted me"

    by Lost Jarv

    "It hurt me sooooo gooooooood"

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Chekov accent = RETARDLY SLOW and EXAGGRRRR

    by LimpdickSherlock

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Empire is dogshit

    by Lost Jarv

    not worth wiping your arse on. <P>You think that's bad, try to find their DVD review of Attack of The Clones (5 stars) which starts with "We had to give it 5 stars because we gave TPM 4". <P>Fuck them.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Why is it...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...the District 9 review is their "official opinion" yet the Star Trek review is not? <p> This is why everyone knows you're a nutbag--it's not enough to hate a movie for reasonable things, you have to make shit up and contradict yourself to hammer the point home. Guess what? You lose.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    Call me by my nick or no deal. compreendes? Did i ever ever called you by any other thing,e vne at my most insulting? Then the least you can do is to return the cortesy.<br><br>You know why i call Jar Jar Abrams and Shit Trek but i don't do that to a talkbacker, however detestable he migth be, like you? Because a movie and a filmmaker can betray my trust. None of the talkbackers can. So, i don't extent that disrespect to them. Even if soem of them can be unsufferable cunts like you. Evne to the likes of you i own a minimum amount of respect. And i show that with the correct use of your nick. But i'm not bound to that for movies and filmmakers.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Scotty's pet = EPIC FAIL.

    by LimpdickSherlock

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    oooh- Language collapsing

    by Lost Jarv

    I sense a meltdown fast approaching.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    No, man, read the posts again. Both Shit Trek and District 9 are their official posiitions. Because it's the reviews they published. The funny thing is that the District 9 OPENLY rejects and negates the former positive review of Shit trek. Because in District 9, they claim, no good SF movie had been released that year until District 9 and Moon. The later negates the first. And since it was published, that's the official position of the magazine. Or else they wouldn't published, it, or would had edited that paragraph out of the review.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    dark knight

    by lprothro

    Oh it was an excellent exercise in film making to be sure, but it was also very---uneventful. The ultra-realism suffocated any sense of fun or entertainment for me.I was wathcing "Goodfellas" with a cape--and I realize that for most that's not necessarily a bad thing. But I don't begrude others their opinion or their right to enjoy it---nor can I deny its financial and critical success. Maybe now you see my point, eh?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    I'm going to agree with you on this: if their justification to give Attack Of The Clones 5 stars was because Phantom Menace got 4, that's retarded indeed. On that we are in agreement.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    you guys are insane!

    by vin_diggler

    how can you keep arguing the same point over and over and over again. Do you really expect anyone to budge? why don't you just whip em out and see who's is longer?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Asimov, listen

    by Lost Jarv

    the problem you've got is you are selectively choosing what to base your argument on. <P>Personally, I wouldn't consider those bastions of serious criticism Total Film and Empire to be anything other than shitrags. <P>However, Star Trek was widely adored by critics in this country- hence the Guardian review. <P>The other problem you have, and it's a big one, is that FOR A STAR TREK film (Curse you primitive non-html formatting TB) it seriously over-performed in the UK. <P>It was greeted with scorn and indifference by the majority and gradually gained an audience here. This is not unheard of. <P>The reason it didn't make more is because it came with the huge baggage of being a fucking Nerd Trek film. <P>I, for example, swore blind that I wouldn't pay money to see fucking nerd trek, not now not ever- even though my wife wanted to. It's fucking nerd trek. <P>It now turns out that everyone I know that saw it likes it, and I'm regretting that decision.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    They could had just said: "we made a mistake with Phantom Menace

    by AsimovLives

    And backtracked. Take Total Film, they used to have a segment they published every end of the year called "what the hell were we thinking?" when they basuically appologised for misguided dumb reviews. Like when they gave 4 stars for Pearl Harbor, and by the end of the year, they appologised for their misguided idioticy for giving that piece of shit such a high rating. They even called it one of the 5 worst war movies in the history of cinema.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    You also ignore what doesn't fit-

    by Lost Jarv

    for example, you challenged me on the numbers- so I adjusted them for you and it still made money. You picked a throwaway line from a shitrag that relies on the fact that it's readership has a goldfish like attention span and is too stupid to tie their own shoes and I gave you the Guardian. You then ignored my point about what we think of Star Trek as a rule. <P>It's difficult to argue with you on this (and note- I am not arguing on the film itself) as you keep shitfting position. It's like trying to build a house on quicksand. You are not making a case- rather you are irrationally howling in the void.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Yes, but they didn't

    by Lost Jarv

    because it's a shitrag. <P>As is Total Film. Forget them- they're both utter bollocks.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    Funny you said that you first considered Shit Trek to be a nerd movie. Because i never got that image of the movie. Remember the first teaser trailer, the one that showed this welder guy building the Enterprise? Since that teaser, the idea i got for theupcoming movie was one that theis guys were trying to Michael Bay it, were trying to make it "teh kewl". i got a Top Gun vibe rom it, which, frankly, the end result movie just completly proved right.<br><br>Thing is, i never got the idea that Shit trek was made as a nerd movie. From the get go, it was clear they were trying to kiss the most amount of so-called mainstream average audeince's ass possible. Never once i got that idea, this is a nerd trek. Never! I wonder how differently the advertizement worked in your neck of the woods.<br><br>And again, i say this: the press reviews for USA and UK have been one of the most severe case ofblind repetition of hype i ever seen in my whole life. Everybody were saying THE EXACT SAME THING. I have made copy and pastes with more differentiations.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    "As is Total Film. Forget them- they're both utter bollocks"<br><br>I'm affraid i can't disagree too with you on that. I guess i still clingue to them because of the articles and the fun interviews and the ocasional good article about classics and new interesting DVd releases.<br><br>Thank goodness for SFX.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by AsimovLives

    You should have the same complain about religion, then.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    *Sigh*

    by Lost Jarv

    You're not understanding me. <P>I ignored all trailers and news about it. All I needed to know was that it was Star Trek. That was enough to keep me from watching it. <P>This film did brilliantly, as it managed to get over 30 years of dorkiness and (if I'm being generous) mediocrity. <P>And I'm not alone in this. The fact that, from all accounts, I was wrong is not the point. If it was a Star Trek film that would have satisfied you I can guarantee it wouldn't have made a brass farthing.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    UHURA's wetness 4 Spock = KOSHER

    by LimpdickSherlock

    You know, Vulcans have no foreskins.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, i'm sorry if i haven't noticed your post before but..

    by AsimovLives

    ... but did you really posted about reasons why the Hoth sequence in Shit trek should be used as a justification for why the movie should be perceived as good? The reason i ask you this is because as a seque to that, i would also liked to ask you another question about Shit Trek, this time to do with the notion of it being a paralel universe. If you wish, we could jump subject directly to this later na dleave the former for later, in case you need more time to think about it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Consider it this way

    by Lost Jarv

    Remember Batman Begins? Didn't exactly slay the box office did it? <P>But it did remove the stain of Batman and Robin. Now imagine 30 years worth of Batman and Robins- that's what 2009 Trek was having to get over.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    I haven't seen it.

    by Lost Jarv

    I've been completely open about this. I didn't see it and think I made a mistake.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by vin_diggler

    You couldn't be more right about that. In fact, it appears that for some people, Star Trek IS a religion.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I live in London

    by Lost Jarv

    so the advertising was pretty heavy. But at the same time pretty easy to avoid.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    It would not been that hard to make a Star Trek movie to please me. All it would take was to make an interesting story filled with interesting characters that respected the original vision of Roddenberry, while at the saem time do with with what modern technology allows, but use the tools to tell the story and not replace it. Basically, what Christiopher Nolan did with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Hell, do to Star Trek what they did with Iron Man would had been enough to make me a very happy camper. Had they pulled a Batman Begins, i would had been in high heaven.<br><br>But they didn't. they made a dumb movie. Made in a hurry. Very rushed. Filled to the grills with bvad decision. And worst, you can tell the filmmakers don't respect or even like their own property. deosn't matter how much Bob Porci claims he's a trekkie, it doesn't show. I was never a Batman geek, and i could tell, from a distanc,e how much respect Nolan had and put into his movie. On Shit Trek, all i see is Jar Jar Abrams's love for Star Wars.s

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed. My religion is cinema. Good cinema.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    London, hem? A friend of mine emigrated to UK 20 years ago, and now has a whole life there, with a wife and a little daughter. He doesn't live in London proper, but in one of those towns that got swallowed by the metropolitan London area. Swansea or something like that, i think, not too sure. Are you an ex-pat american living in UK or something like that?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    You're missing the point

    by Lost Jarv

    A significant amount of your complaints are things in direct comparison with TOS. That character list above. Not to mention that I've seen you go into contortions comparing the two.<P>I can't stand JJ Abrams. He's never made anything I've liked, ever. <P>This film to me was avoidance heaven: a rebooting of something I hold in contempt made by someone who's stuff I don't like. There wasn't a fucking prayer I was going to see it. <P>The point is, he managed to reinvent a series that was dead as the fucking dodo having been crushed under the weight of consecutive suck and did it in a way that won legions of fans- some of who may even look back at the stuff you revere with something other than mild embarrassment now. <P>That is some fucking achievement.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Swansea is in fucking Wales.

    by Lost Jarv

    Christ almighty. <P>That's like me saying I live in a suburb of Porto called The Algarve. <P>I'm Celtic and married to an American

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Final point

    by Lost Jarv

    look, you may have legitimate artistic reasons to hate this film. I don't know. What you don't have is weight of consensus or box office. If you try to keep to critical reasoning and turn your "cunt" dial down from 11 you may be able to make some headway- you may even find a few people that agree with you, but this shrill posturing and bullshit that you've engaged in in this TB has made your side of the argument look irrational, illogical, fundamentally mendacious and above all unattractive. <P>You have done your own cause serious harm through over stating your case and flat out bullshit. <P>Think about this, as I'm out now.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    I'm going to be honest with you here: i only know TOS fully. TNG i know bits and pieces. DS9, Voyager and Enterprise i know very little. But i know this much: the claims of it being compelte shit is exagerated. However, that doesn't mean i think they are great stuff. no i don't. i think those showed suffered from too much nerd-ism. They just nerded it up too much, to the point one would need a whole encyclopedia to just even understand what kind of photon torpedoes would be used for each day of the week.<br><br>Still, i still see a love for the Star Trek universe in even the latest lame TV shows. It might not look much, but at elast it's still some kind of love. Misguided, but it's love.<br><br>I see no love for Star Trek on Shit Trek. what do i see? I see a coup. i see Star Wars nerds making a coup and trying to turn Star trek into Star Wars. And i ask, is this wise? no it's not. Should the two biggest SF franchises now look and feel the same? Star Trek was it's own thing, Star Wars was it's own thing. Even George Lucas hates rivalry and the mixing of the two franchises, because he himself is a bit of a trekkie.<br><br>My point is that the latest Trek was flawed and irritating in their loss on useless minutiae. but that doesn't mean it was total shit, only misguideness. You claim that Star Trek had fallen into Batman & Robin territory. It's a good point, but too exagerated. I don't think Star Trek died with Voyager. I think it died with Shit Trek. that is it's true nail to the coffin. Shit Trek is not a reboot, it's a coup. A Star Wars coup. Batman Begins respected the batman lore. Shit Trek respects Star Wars.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    I knew it i got wrong about the suburbs my friend lived. Well, i'm at a lost to where exactly he lives, but that's in the suburbs. He did had to sell his car because traffic to the center of London is impossible.<br><br>I'm a celt too. And a latin. And a germanic barbarian. And a moor. And even possibly a jew too. Portugueses are that much mixed, specially the people from the south like me.<br><br>Anyway...<br>Actually, TOS mighy even be the least part of my problems with Shit Trek. My major problems witrh that movie is from the sheer dumb idioticy of it all. And how little sense it all makes. There is not one single minute of it i don't see a real problem coming up. The movie even fucks itself up with it's own contradictions. And the thing that is mind blowing to me is that, why, ON THIS MOVIE IN PARTICULAR, it gets a free pass. This movie has problems that have made people in here and critics everywehre trashed and burned it to the cinder of failure. I have seen movies being mercilessly trashed by geeks in here and critics with far less problems then Shit Trek has. and yet, for some mysterious reason, of which there's no real logical explaination, Shit Trek gets a free pass. I realyl don't understand it. It has to be hype. It has to some some form of, i don't know, the mood of the times, the fashion of the moment, zeitgeist, whatever the hell! Really, it makes absolutly no sense whatsoever! Why this one? Why this one in particular?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by geckobrothers

    I really can't see the similarities between Star Wars and Star Trek 2009 that you are seeing. Okay, we have a scene on an Ice-Planet... and what else? I don't see paranormal powers like the force, no small-space-fighter-battles, no hidden identities, no bad hair-cuts and the mining-ship "blowing-up" is perhaps only partial similar to a death-star. So, what's the point? Jokes and ironie? They were part of every single Trek Episode and Movie. The Story of a young outlaw becoming a hero? This story is as old as mankind, even the bible has some of this stories it's just the base for epic-tales. If i should charcterize the style of the new Trek then I would state: Battlestar Galactica for the Space-Scenes, I-Robot or A.I. style for the interiors. And last but not least: for me the cast had a good chemistrie, Spock, Kirk and Bones... for me, it worked.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Shit Trek respects Star Wars

    by son_of_ebert

    which star wars?<p>the prequels or the first ones?<p>probably the later.. later meaning the prequels not the later of the previous sentence being the first ones..

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Let us take a moment to remember

    by InActionMan

    Gene L. Coon the unsung hero of Star Trek:TOS who worked as a writer and producer on the series. <P> It has been years since I read "The Making of Star Trek" but, the book pretty much credits Coon with keeping Gene Roddenberry on track with the action adventure and keeping Roddenberry from becoming too preachy.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Most entertaining movie of the year

    by MattmanBegins

    Saw it again recently and really enjoyed it. -Asimov's head explodes-

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Shatner escape from Ruha Pethe= awesome=Nick Meyer

    by picardsucks

    this one meh Still loved the movie though Only two Klingon guards on a klingon penal colony?? JJ needed Nick Meyer to direct this scene

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    MattmanBegins

    by AsimovLives

    I have District 9 to fill my fun quota, i don't need that Shit trek bulslhit. If i want to watch SF, i watch proper SF, like District 9. You can have Shit Trek all for yourself, i don't want it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by AsimovLives

    You can't see the similiaritudes between Shit Trek and Star Wars? for real? Even many appologists of that mvoie noticed that, and soem use that as one of their few justification to support it.<br><br>How many stuff is taken from Star Wars? The destiny to fill hero. The exploding planet of a leading character for dramatic effect (thus making Spock the Leia of the story). The emphasis on action adventure where the heros advance through their story through brawl instead of brains. The mega evil villain ship, only this time with added spikes. The constant threat of blowing up the heroes planets by the villain. The type of pacing the movie has, where everythign has to run fast, regardless if it's a dialogue scene or an action scene. The hero as an orphan. turning ship of the line big ships into kinetic ships whose movements look more likejet figthers then ships. The emphasis on battle on brawl then strategy. One hero winsthe day by sneeking a small ship into the big evil ship. Hoth 2. Man, the paralels are too numerous to name here. Truly, who made Shit Trek has a hard on on Star Wars. And Jar Jar Abrams has admited that himself.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    I am so sick of the Star Wars comparisons

    by rogueleader66

    I am a MAJOR SW geek as well as a ST fanatic and if there were so many similarities, I know I would have seen them. People cite the bar scene with Kirk being a ripoff of the cantina scene from Star Wars (sorry I REFUSE to call it Episode IV). What is it about that scene that is a rip off? I only saw a few aliens in there, and they did not make a point to go around the bar and show all the different species that were there like in SW. What about the bar scene in Star Trek III? Was that a rip off of SW? Next. The ice planet. Again, it is cited as a Hoth rip off. I guess the entire sequence in the snow on Rura Pente in ST VI was a rip off of the SW too wasn't it? Hmmm...there was a MAJOR battle on Hoth (and the first 1/4 of TESB was on Hoth, the scenes in ST VI and ST 2009 were much shorter), yet there was no major battle in either ST VI or ST 2009's ice planet sequences so how are those ST movies ripping off SW? Simple, they aren't. My point is if you are going to pick on stuff, make sure your arguments hold weight, and in this case, neither one does, the bar or the ice planet sequence in ST 2009. <P>If anything, the SW/ST similarities are in the fact that the pacing in ST 2009 was, I guess, more "Star Wars" like, in that it was more faster paced than previous ST movies, more of a reliance on action sequences than in previous ST movies, and let's face it, the last 2 Trek movies (Nemesis and Insurrection) were snore fests, and this is coming from a Star Trek fan, one who didn't give a rat's ass about Star Trek for quite a long time.<P>I see no one responded to my STII/ST 2009 coincidence/convenience comparison. Either I was right or no one read it, which is possible LOL.<P>TWOK, is not the best reviewed ST movie (although IMO it still is and always will be the best Trek movie), it is very highly praised, but as far as critical response, not the highest, ST 2009 is. In fact when TWOK came out I remember reading more than one review that said it was good, but not much more than an overblown TV episode. Not exactly high praise. Funny thing, I remember some critics doing a turnaround on their opinions AFTER the move became a success. Critics who do that shouldn't be critics, stand by your opinion or don't give one at all. Look up on Rotten Tomatoes, which is merely a consensus of critical opinions. It takes into account good and bad reviews, by critics. TWOK is at 90%, ST 2009 is at 95%. Ok i'm done, carry on fellas.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Funny how Vulcan explodes in Shit Trek

    by AsimovLives

    at the same narrative beat in Star Wars. Jezz, a coincidence?<br><br>Spock is Leia.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Vulcan blew up cause the planet was so damn boring

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    But what would you do without it, Asimov?

    by MattmanBegins

    You certainly wouldn't have anything to talk about. It's sad that you talk more about a movie you hate than one you like. And I loved D9 btw.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Oh and the whole Hero and destiny thing

    by rogueleader66

    Was a story element used long before Star Wars and will be used time and time again, it is a classic story element, SW wasn't the first to use it and it sure won't be the last time it will be used in a movie.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by AsimovLives

    Thanks for mentioning the cantine scene, i forgot about it. You are right, it's another SW rip-off.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by AsimovLives

    Friend, you know this, and i know this: the hero destiny thing used after SW is a direct copy and steal from Star Wars. Star Wars made it in such a way that all movies afterwards who do that go directly on Star Wars, not on Campbell's writings. The Hero's jorney in Shit Trek is a direact steal from Star Wars. doesn't matter if it was done before, Star Wars, on Shit Trek, it's from Star Wars. It's a direct quote, a direct steal.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by geckobrothers

    Luke = Kirk: Not for me, there is no mythologie of a chosen one, no familie-links between him and the villain. a father's friend, telling a outlaw son that he can achieve more in his life is not a prophecy, it's just stateing the obvious. leia = spock: leia's reaction to alderan blowing up was very dull (seemed to be forgotten 5 minutes later) spocks reaction is way mor believable, espacially as he even saw his mother die with his own eyes (nothing like: emo-spock for me). fast-paceing: this is modern cinema, the movie is just up-to-date, as was khan, as was undiscovered country as was first contact. if you want "realistic" big-spaceship-manouvers you can watch discovery channel and how thrilling docking-manouvers at the iss are... 3 hours to get doors open... brilliant cinema-stuff ;-)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    MattmanBegins

    by AsimovLives

    You know what? I would LOVE that Shit Trek had never been made. Shit Trek is a pain in my soul as a movie lover and a movie geek. And it's a real pity that AICN doesn't devote more talkbacks to Chritopher Nolan and his Batman movies or his upcoming Inception, instead of all this ass kissing about Jar Jar Abrams and his abortion of a movie. Jar Jar Abram's Shit Trek not existing would had been a blessing.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Leia's reaction to her planet blowing up: "No."

    by MattmanBegins

    That was one of SW's weaker scenes, I'm afraid.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by rogueleader66

    Well if it is, then so is the bar scene in Star Trek III. The only similarities are that both scenes take place in a bar.<P>Let's break it down.....<P>Star Wars-A huge cantina filled with countless alien species, and a band.<P>Star Trek III-A small bar with a few aliens, no band, and a lot of Starfleet personnel.<P>Star Trek 2009-A small bar with a few aliens, no band, and a lot of Starfleet personnel.<P>Seems to me Star Trek ripped off itself in that scene more than it did Star Wars.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Oh and BTW Asimov

    by rogueleader66

    I am looking forward to Inception very much, because Nolan's previous non-Batman movie, The Prestige, was nothing short of awesome.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by geckobrothers

    Well as for the "invention" of the Heroes-Journey through Star Wars or Star Wars as the father of all modern Adventure-Epic-Hero-Stories: ever heared of Lord of the Rings? normal small Guys, chosen by destiny, long journey, facing dark powers, seduction to the dark side which has greater powers... quite familiar, isn't it? I don't want to start a new debate. I just want to say: Star Wars is not the origin for epic storytelling. All those Father & Son motives are stolen from greek mythologie bye the way...

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    I hate to be a stickler

    by rogueleader66

    But Leia's "No" came before Alderran was destroyed, not after, and she did have a look of horror on her face as it blew up. But I do have to agree that the planet's destruction seems to have been kinda glossed over.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Asimov, sucks that Abrams ruined your life

    by MattmanBegins

    And you can't help but spend your day venting whenever AICN posts a trek article. That's a bummer. You could simply avoid the article (or AICN altogether) if it really pisses you off that much. You haven't changed anyone's mind about the movie. They either liked it or they didn't. It's a fucking movie.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by geckobrothers

    The Prestige was brilliant! As was Nolan's Memento. The Batmans were perhaps the best Comic-Adaption-Movies since today, but they are definately not Nolan's very best movies. He is a true artist.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Asimov has pwned you all!

    by vin_diggler

    This guy is brilliant. He simply did not Like Star trek and he has got you all twisted up about it. He has you guys arguing over everything imaginable, shit he even has you doing research just to prove him wrong. He knows all the right buttons to push my favorite is managing to get Star Wars involved in the equation, so now he has both the Trekkies And the Jedittes taking him on. But hands down, the best part is you guys were arguing with him and he hadn't even posted anything yet! Now that's some power, you guys were begging for him to join the chat and you got your wish.Bravo to you sir, long live Asimove!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by rogueleader66

    Agreed. Believe it or not I have yet to see Memento although it is on my (quite extensive) list of movies I need to see. But I am gonna guess it is on par with his other works. the guy sure can tell a good story.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Yeah Vin, he spends all day whining on a talkback

    by MattmanBegins

    Yeah he's pretty brilliant. He might even be president some day.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Excised monkey business!

    by ToMonicker

    Okay, so not only are we shown that Nero and friends are captured by Klingons, but that the Klingons are aware of the tactical importance of Prime Spock, moreso than at least the Federation who at the end of StarTrekAughtNine, who seem content to let Prime Spock wander about collecting wayward Vulcans for relocation to a new homeworld... This scene attempts to do many things; tease us with the Klingons, set up Nero's 20 year vacation, seed Prime Spock's importance and Klingon antagonism for sequel, and introduce the nasty ear slug for Pike's interrogation in the sewer of the "mining" death star ship. I'll even give the reason why Nero's crew are excellently trained and armed for a bunch of Miners; Romulan miners have to be, because they are often workning illegitamitely outside of the Neutral Zone, which is cramped by Prime Spock's era. I enjoyed '09 Trek at the theaters, twice on someone else's dime, but as time as moved on, I respect it less and less for it's sheer lack imagination or intelligence. I take myself to task for just the same... All sci-fi bends the rules of logic and sometimes physics, it's just the mechanics of storytelling- how else can you have an engaging story? I'm not that smart, I still have trouble understanding the Theory Of Relativity... I mean to think, that if I zipped across space, near the speed of light or faster, and returned, many more years will have elapsed here on earth than for me, still hurts my head. Everyone I know might be dead, governments collapsed or merged, and technology advanced or regressed depending on what has happened in my absence! How would relate to fictional characters who adhereing to relativity would not be able to enjoy the type of aventures and personal connections that would make them identifiable to ourselves? < br> Anyway, last time I peeked on the toy aisles, it looked like the majority of Trek toys were collecting dust- my nephews are into Clone Wars and Transformers. Perhaps New Trek did do well with the average moviegoer, it's just not inspiring much beyond disposable entertainment... Maybe nerds are overinvested but at least they are passionate.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    No one has onwed anyone

    by rogueleader66

    We just like to argue about movies lol. <P>Oh, someone please tell me what genius decided that pwned was an acceptable substitute for owned? What illiterate retard decided it was "cool" to say pwned? It was a mistake in a video game and suddenly it is accepted as a fucking word? Dumb, not clever, not cool, just fucking dumb.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by geckobrothers

    Memento is from the storytelling perspective the most brilliant peace of modern american cinema. Believe me, you never ever saw a story told in this way!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66, agreed

    by MattmanBegins

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    geckobrothers... except for that Seinfeld episode

    by MattmanBegins

    Which was told backwards. ;)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    MattmanBegins

    by geckobrothers

    Oh, I apologize ;-) Never watched Seinfeld, so I certainly missed this brilliance of American-TV-History ;-) What's coming to mind: did the Simpsons do such an Episode once? Could be possible and could be quite cool... perhaps this is worth an e-mail to Groening ;-)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    gecko

    by rogueleader66

    Definitely have to put that near the top of the list, I just keep hearing great things about it.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    I like pwned

    by vin_diggler

    I challenge you to say it outloud without laughing. Sounds like you could use a good laugh

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by MattmanBegins

    There are a million Simpsons episodes so I'd be surprised if there wasn't a Memento episode. But, all joking aside, that IS a fantastic movie. Very original. My Blu-Ray collection consists only of movies I consider classics, and Memento is one of them.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    You can like pwned all you want

    by rogueleader66

    That's your right, but to me it is still utterly retarted and stupid. Oh and I get plenty of laughs, so I don't need a stupid thing like a retarted word to make me laugh.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Yes, "pwned" is the epitome of humor

    by MattmanBegins

    As are all typos.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Whoa are we critiquing ROTJ sail barge sequence?

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Who cares about ropes being inserted later on, if he was just hanging there without any ropes then that is retarded, however it was fixed up so who cares anymore. But the sail barge sequence had enough suspense during the buildup to see what Luke was up to to make up for any of these shortcomings. <p> This made me laugh though: "Not to mention the Luke/Boba rope/lightsaber interface. What the fuck happened there? " That rope seems to shoot straight then somehow wrap itself around but it looks kind of cool in the process.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    I don't know about post-TOS but TOS Klingons arent

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    exactly pussies. I remember the duel between Kirk in Day of the Dove was pretty intense. They just seem pretty wild and primal like animals, their barbarian like simplicity can be duped, but when they're charging they go berzerker.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    see even you made one up!

    by vin_diggler

    retarted is much funnier than retarded. I will be using that from now on. Thanks

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    at least my misspelling is recognizable as the word it is suppos

    by rogueleader66

    Not the stupidity of replacing an O with a P. I can't even believe I am still discussing this foolishness. Time to move on.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I agree TOS was made for everyone

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    And the other series were made only for the accumulated Trek fanbase. I guess the real meter stick to see what kind of fan you are is whether you like the animated series or not because it seems to be a polarizing thing. Those that hate it generally call it campy/kiddy and crappy animation and love the more complex later series, while those that love it also really like TOS. The reasons i like TOS are absent in the later series, they thought they can just get another group of actors in space costumes and with enough production and even excellent writing, no, the TNG cast are snooze inducing, the chemistry between them pales between the TOS trio's comraderie. I also like the colorful look with the sets, aliens instead of that grimy 90s era thinking where everything in the future is dank blue or bland and dark colors with sharp metallic edges everyhwere, it looks ugly as shit. <p> Another big contrast is TOS never indulged in technobabble, this video has a top 10 trek technobabble moments, and only one from TOS and it's even #10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGAahDeceHI

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Oh btw vin

    by rogueleader66

    I was not trying to say you are a retard for using pwned, I just happen to think it is a stupid substitute for owned. If I am anything it is respectful, I don't insult those who don't deserve it, and if you feel I insulted you, my apologies.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    so what does "suppos" mean?

    by vin_diggler

    you didn't even complete the sentence. you right, you should move on before you dig yourself even deeper.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I know, it's all trivial

    by vin_diggler

    but get you type type "pwned" three times. :)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    there we are now even.

    by vin_diggler

    with that nonsense I just posted

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    TakingScorpiosCalls

    by rogueleader66

    Can't agree with you more. I liked the animated series, it was basically a continuation of TOS. I also found TNG and the later series bland by comparison, none of the relationships were close to the ones in TOS. Patrick Stewart is a good actor and did the best with what he had, which wasn't much. Too many recycled ideas from TOS. Frakes is not a good actor. The technobabble got annoying, it just kept growing and growing. <P>Oh and did I mention Wesley Crusher? OMG i wanted to slap the shit out of that little asshole every time he was onscreen. You know I stopped watching TNG after season 3 I think, and when I decided to give it another chance it was an episode where some indian type dude was telling Wesley he was destined to be a god or some dumb shit like that, well I did not watch TNG after that dumb bullshit nonsense. TNG started off ok, but declined as the series went on. Q was a good character, the Borg were cool as well, but there was too much boring crap in between the occasional good episode. A big letdown for me. DS9...decent but only a little better than TNG. Voyager, eh, same as TNG but honestly I didn't watch it enough to really judge it correctly. Enterprise, never watched one episode, lost my faith in Trek by that time.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    vin

    by rogueleader66

    The title of my post was "at least my misspelling is recognizable as the word it is supposed to be" Not my fault that it didn't fit in the title bar. I completed the sentence, if you frequent TB's a lot you already know this happens.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    I know

    by vin_diggler

    I'm with you. This has run its course. pwned/owned retarded/retarted. who really cares! Say have you seen that new Star Trek deleted scene?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Hail Coon!

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    That's why Trek is pretty good, because it's not one man holding dominion over all but many strengths to the show and movies unlike Star Wars dictatorial style, with only two other directors.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    The Fall of the Republic movie

    by Spazatronik2000

    http://tinyurl.com/yl8wc8z

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST

    vin

    by rogueleader66

    No for some reason it aint working for me gonna try it again.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    No Ass n' Roids

    by joshuavance1701

    Don't flatter your fatter self my friend, some of us have lives in between talkback, or indulge in such pursuits as making money selling original paintings. <p> I say we strap these cunts in Clockwork orange style and force them to watch Trek '09 ad infinitum. <p> Assimov shits, Droids, I blow a healthy sphincter wind in your general directions. Now be good little cunts and open your mouths wide and accept majestic flatulance like the tired penile devices you are. You smarmy obtuse flotsam cocksuckers, I jizz on you hybrid douche cake fucks. You patsy cunts sucketh my dicketh with all the splendor and grand ceremony of a Earl serving his beloved King. Orci, SPITE these pedantic , pedestriant turds , write every fucking movie Hollywood dares to make from now on for no other reason but to spite these two hack-fucks Ass grind gives and These are not the Roids your creming for.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    joshuavance1701

    by Stalkeye

    Your post reeks of one too many homo references. You, my friend are "suspect". XD

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Early TNG AT LEAST still felt a bit like TOS in that they were actually beaming down and, you know, exploring stuff. Somewhere after the 2nd season the show found its sucky form which would go till the end and reverberated into the other series. I would have all the post-TAS series excized from existance if in place i could gain just one extra TOS season.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    "Stalkeye??"

    by joshuavance1701

    Project much penis boy?

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    I disagree the chemistry in TNG crew was great

    by ominus

    just look at this scene: http://tinyurl.com/mykcug

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Epic TB...Nothing I could say would make it anybetter..

    by conspiracy

    However, I would like to ad I loved TNG as a teen; and state right here and now, that even though she is over 50 I'd bang at least a cup size off of Marina Sirtis. Some of the best natural cans in the business.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    greek stuff conspiracy

    by ominus

    greek stuff ;)

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    CONSPIRACY...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Yeah, Marina Sirtis has awesome jugs. Met her back in the day at a Trek convention. They're just as impresive in person. But they're nothing compared to Grace Lee Whitney's cans. She was at the soundstage I used to work at when they were filming some of that Of Gods and Men internet movie. They are fucking huge. Really nice lady though. Gave me great womanly advice: "We're women. We want what we want". Thanks Yeoman Rand.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Also...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    I really liked that Dabo girl Rom married on Deep Space Nine. That was one hot bitch.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    TNG fucking ruled!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The acting was stellar, and the plot lines were varied and really well done. DS9 never hit on any issues at all during its run. Voyager did too, but a lot of those were shitty.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Nichelle Nichols in her prime is still the best TREK tail

    by YackBacker

    She had a smoking body, sultry eyes... Roddenberry hit that and I salute him on his taste. Professional.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    I hear that Yack

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Everytime she's onscreen i cant help but look at her legs. Even with those red diapers but of course it's not going to be just her cunt underneath.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Yack...Roddenberry defines fucking professional

    by conspiracy

    And he was a master swordsman from all accounts. Word is he banged damn near anything that had tits...and was plowing Nichelle even as he was hooked up with Majel Barrett. A fucking Hero!

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Roddenberry got all the chicks

    by lockesbrokenleg

    He was like Kirk. He banged Uhura, and Rand, and probably the Transporter guy.

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:34 p.m. CST

    seniorspeilbergio...Best thing about Sirtis..

    by conspiracy

    she seems a naughty girl off the screen. Kinda a floozy...lots of see through braless outfits(she has nice big delicious silver dollar nips), and looks half sauced.</p><p>Oh ya...as Ominus said..."greek stuff" That Greek blood in her tells you nothing is off limits...nothing. I'd suck green green olives right out of her ass after coating her with feta cheese while high as a fucking kite on Ouzo. Yes...I loves me some Marina

  • Oct. 29, 2009, 11:40 p.m. CST

    lockes..Roddenberry was such a Pimp...

    by conspiracy

    I'm surprised his 87yr old corpse didn't reanimate and get a piece of Zoe Saldana during casting. Even fucking dead he's a bigger player than the guys who have the franchise these days...that fucker would show them how to make a fucking film...starting with how to work the casting couch.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    How bout some pics of the Sirtis T's?

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    My Amoeba sense is all aquiver!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Sirtis

    by YackBacker

    http://tinyurl.com/c2fwo

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Sirtis did ONE movie where she was nude

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It was some 19th Century type movie and she's only nude for a few minutes.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by AsimovLives

    ST:III ripped off one bar scene. Shit Trek ripped off THE WHOLE MOVIE! ST:III's sins are far less likely to invite criticism.<br><br>Shall i remind you of this little detail too in Shit Trek, which had a huge evil ship that was a planet destroyer. Whcih destroyed a major character's own home planet. Where i have seen that before? I wonder! And Hoth, never forget Hoth.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:24 a.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by AsimovLives

    Of coruse Pseudo-Kirk is a bad Luke. You know why? Because Bob Porci, The Klutzman and Jar Jar Abrams are terrible filmmakers who can't create a character worth a damn, they are so fucking inept. Even with direct stealing they fuck up. And yeah, it's fascinating that L4eia mannages to act more like a Vulcan with her planet's destruction then Spock, who becomes an uncontrolable emotional bitch. Fucking ass!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:26 a.m. CST

    MattmanBegins

    by AsimovLives

    One of the reason i have so many oportunities to bash Shit Trek is that AICN pimps it so much beyond belief. They have pimped this movie in a month then they have for The Dark Knight in two years. Should i take from that that AICN consdiers Shit Trek a better move then The Dark Knight? That alone is worth my efforts to trash Shit Trek for all it's worth.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:31 a.m. CST

    MattmanBegins

    by AsimovLives

    And calling what i say about Shit Trek whinning is unsport«smanlike. It means you might not even bother to actualyl read and think about what i write. Which might explain the more nkee jerk reactions to my posts. Thing is, i think about the opposition arguments, and i replies to them. At least i have that cortesy. That's not whinning. Whinning is people being upset about a negative reaction to Shit Trek and all they can do is scream "but i had fun" and call me names in lieu of an actual logical argument to explain why someone should over-look the current of idioticies that compose Shit Trek and should mistake them for good storytelling and good filmmaking. Those who whine are the supporters, i'm affraid. Me, i protest. There's a whole world of difference in that.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:37 a.m. CST

    geckobrothers

    by AsimovLives

    I love Memento as you do. I love The Prestige, it might be, in my mind, Nolan's best movie he ever made. However, Memento is not all that completly original in it's structure. There was an 1983 movie staring Jeremy Irons and Ben Kingsley called Betrayal which had it's story told backwards. Memento's originality, as it were, was to use that structure to the crime genre, and set it in a relatively narrative short time span (Betrayal is a drama and it's story spans a whole decade, more or less).

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:40 a.m. CST

    *sigh*

    by Lost Jarv

    what a shitty start to the morning. <P>Don't claim kinship with me asshole. Unless your parents are Scottish/ Irish then you are not remotely like me. <P>Secondly, seeing as you didn't actually address the points made, preferring instead to rant on about bollocks I now give up on you. <P>If you'd got your way Star Trek would have been like AvP:Rectum.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:40 a.m. CST

    TakingScorpiosCalls

    by AsimovLives

    In TOS Klingons are also depicted to be pretty smart and cunning, even to the extent of using diplomacy tricks to their advantage. All those qualities disapeared with the other Star Trek shows. I wonder why.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Review

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Another Review, and this time from the paper who's movie reviewers are the most contrarian mofos in the press.<p> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1175845/Star-Trek-Its-future-Forget-original-dazzling-prequel-best-yet.html I am amazed you are still going. Shouting at the storm is how I termed it in an earlier post and my God Asimovlives, you are yelling your little heart out. Seriously though, dude, you just come across as deranged. "Shit Trek", "Jar Jar Abrhams", "Bob Porci" etc. etc. And calling them "terrible filmakers".<p> Old Trek is dead and no amount of screaming will help. I have the Borg box set, Way of the Warrior on VHS, ST:TMP through ST:IV on Blu-Ray. I am a fan. I even watched Enterprise, but it was dead, finished, done. Primarily because of people like you.<p> I went to see ST:Nemesis at my local cinema on the Wednesday evening after it came out and I was THE ONLY PERSON IN THERE!!!<p> Contrast to ST:2009 and we had to beek, even then couldn't all sit together and in the restaurant next door to the movie theatre afterwards, pretty much all the other diners were raving about it.<p> You come across as somebody who is dangerously close to having a breakdown, over a movie.<p> Have you seen that clip on You Tube, the one of the gamer scraming high-pitched obscenities at his computer as he gets slayed online again? His voice rising until it is just a scream, tears rolling down his cheeks, keyboard being punched in frustration??? Have you seen it?<p> Because, my friend, that is the only image I have of you in my mind every time I read one of your posts as that is how you come across with each note you leave in a Star Trek thread.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 4:32 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by MorganLeafy

    in reply to a another post on another topic: 6 million people in my country talk Dutch, 4 million speak French. English is sort of an unofficial second language for many.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5 a.m. CST

    about Klingons

    by ominus

    i am sorry but Klingons are pussies,since they use stealth technology to cloak their ships and use surprise attacks to their unsuspected enemies. <p>Well a cloaking device identifies more with the cunning TOS Klingons (and especially with Romulans),but not very much with the honorable POST-TOS Klingons.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    The celts didn't only existed in the british islands, you know? just because you appropriated the title doesn't mean it's only yours. Go to wikipedia and read about the lusitanians, for example. The cletic presence in the peninsula iberica was very strong, and it's still fell to this day, with many parts of the place being wholesome celtic cultures. One of the major celtic jusic festivals is even placed in spain, in Galicia. So ease on the nonsense. Iberians are also celts, deal with it.<br><br>If Shit Trek had gone my way, it would had been like Batman Begins. and where the fuck you got this idiot i like that piece of shit Aliens Vs Predator: Requiem? Are you daft? Who likes that shit? That's the entire point of all my posts, that Shit Trek is SHIT. What logic is it then that i would had prefered a shit movie to be shit like AVP:R? Where's the logic in that? Where's the sense in that?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:10 a.m. CST

    MorganLeafy

    by AsimovLives

    Thanks for the cool info. I did had learned that the flanders and Holland people are very good english speakers, thanks to my stepmother's son, who works regulary in Holland, and has visited your country and he says that everybody talks english there. Well, i also guess it's an historical thing as well, since Belgium and england are allies since the day your country was created. Hell, one of the main causes of the english intervention in Europe in WWI and WWII was to help the defense of Belgium, if memory serves. Small wonder blegians are very adept at speaking english.<br><br>Correct me if i'm wrong, but is it not true that there's a language particular to Belgium alone which is neither french, dutch or german?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Remember when Orci came on AICN and said...

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    ¨There are no Klingons in our movie.¨ Yeah, not the final cut you hairsplitting douche.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Dude_gimme_tabs

    by AsimovLives

    What do you call Old Trek? The TOS? how can that be dead, when there's still blu-ray editions poping up and being sold like fries? Is that being dead? It loooks pretty alive to me.<br><br>If you mean dead like voyager, then i say good ridance to that, i never liked that show much anyway, and i can understand why people got fed up with trek because of it. The technobabble alone made me stop watching it. That show rarely used real though and smarts to resolve's the episode's problem, it was always some magical technobabble shit pulled out of their asses at the last moment. It was silly.<br><br>I'd realy ask for you to be exact in what you call Old Trek. Jar Jar Abrams's Shit Trek has a direct link to TOS, because it uses the same characters (though in a shit variation). And TOS is still alive and popular. And it's unfair and dust-to-the-eyes fallacy to try to shove into the duscussion of Shit Trek the other trek shows which have nothing to do with the movie, because the movie is based on TOS and TOS only. Focus, man. i know you Shit Trek appologists love to do that kind of thing, come up with any argument to defend your damsel, but it would be better if you actually focus on what's really the subject. Shit Trek is measured by TOS, and TOS only.<br><br>And Jar Jar Abrams and Bob Porci are terrible filmmakers. I'm even too kind to them, they deserve a far worst treatment.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Celtic= British Isles

    by Lost Jarv

    nowadays. In English it's a term that's used to separate us Scots from the English. It's Celtic as opposed to Anglo-Saxon. <P>I don't give a monkeys about Gauls in France or Spain or wherever, the Celtic nations are Scotland, Ireland and Wales- hence things like "Celtic league" in Rugby or "Celtic tiger" when referring to the Irish Economy. <P>Here endeth the lesson.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:28 a.m. CST

    and as for your boner for AvP: Rectum

    by Lost Jarv

    let me repeat, again. You (in your previous incarnation that you still deny) posted: <P>"This christmas I've booked my ticket with Mr. Alien, Mr. Predator and lots and lots of Mr. and Mrs. Dead People" <P>You were coming in your pants to see that shit, fuck's sake.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:31 a.m. CST

    You left something else Jarv--

    by Sal_Bando

    -and I Quothe Noted_Sage Jarv-Jarv: You were coming in your pants to see that shit, fuck's sake. <p> This was also Mammaries reaction to the opening of the Goat Hotel and Wine emporium next-door. <p> People in landfills need their fun, too!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:35 a.m. CST

    But seriously----Mammaries--here's a hint-

    by Sal_Bando

    -Don't like Abrams Trek? DON'T FUCKIN WATCH IT! Seriously. I basically HATED Jurassic_Kong 4 years ago, the one time I've seen any of it again was on Network TV here a couple months ago--and it was STILL overblown Crappo as far's I'm concerned. But I'm NOT going to slag Sir Petey Jax 24-7 about it---<p> I liked Lord of the Rings and I'm thinking he's earned some trust with us as far's Tintin or the Dam Busters franchise he's tackling soon. Ditto the Hobbit. <p> You need to go back and read some nice long Cervantes novels on jousting people dressed as Goats while on the Campostella Trail or whatever. It'll make your day AND allow you to shine up your Franco dolls.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:40 a.m. CST

    "It'll make your day AND allow you to shine up your Franco dolls

    by Lost Jarv

    hilarious.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Further facts about my insignificant country...

    by MorganLeafy

    So, there is no such thing as ‘Belgian’. Sometimes they say people from Flanders speak Flemish but that’s in fact just a collection of Flemish dialects in Dutch. I mean, even the most patriotic Texan wouldn’t say he spoke ‘American’.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 6:04 a.m. CST

    How many Walloons does it take to change a bulb?

    by Sal_Bando

    And if they're Caught doing while Speaking Walloon---

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST

    I'm waiting for more of Mammaries love-notes to Xiphos.

    by Sal_Bando

    Just because they make for good readin' and the source material for the next Cokey movie.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Dead!

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Cinematically dead, AsimovLives, cinematically. Incapable of putting bums on seats, of dragging people into the cinema. Drowning, lost, in early December release slots and forgotten about. And certainly not even close to capable of being a major tentpole release for a studio at the start of the summer season. Unlike ST:09.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 6:46 a.m. CST

    AssLives

    by DocPazuzu

    Oh, fuck OFF. You don't "owe" me any kind of courtesy and I sure as fuck don't owe a sleazy, waffling, lying, malodorous cunt like you anything approaching politeness.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 6:51 a.m. CST

    "Fuck you, you...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...fucktarded, cockjacking, inbred, Iberian ass-monger.... Sir." <p> WTF?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 7:37 a.m. CST

    ZombieHeathLedger

    by AsimovLives

    i hate to defend Bob Poricl, but in a sense, he's right, there ar eno klingons in Shit Trek. If Jar Jar Abrams, in his wisdom, decided to cut out that delected scene above, he did so with the idea that the movie would be better without it. That means that in the JarJarverse, all that is truly official and canon is what is in the movie. The delected scene doesn't count. The delected scene eis a curio. If Jar Jar Abrams cut that scene form the movie, it wa sbecause he though the movie was better without it, and that the notion that nero seated on his ass in the same place for 20 years waiting for Spock to show up would made the movie better. And this is how the movie should be seen, and as Nero should be seen, as a guy who seated on his ass for 20 years at the same spot, and not as a prisioner who spent 20 years as the torture plaything for the Klingons. Jar Jar though the movie was better without that scene. And that is how is should be seen, for good or ill.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST

    ominus

    by AsimovLives

    The question of Klingon honour is quite interesting. They remind me, in ways, to the Japanese officers of WWII. This people gfelt that honour was something they should have AMONG THEMSELVES. But they weren't obliged to extent that to foreignners. Seems the same thing happens with the klingons as depicted in the series. among themselve,s they bust their asses acting the most honourable way possible. But for aliens, anything goes, and sneak attacks are prefered. That's a typical attitude of the hunter, hunters prefer sneak and stealth over open confrontation with the prey. All hunting creatures go to great lenghts to be stealthy and cunning attack by sneaking, caughting the prey unawares. In fact, good stealth and attacking the enemy unawares and unprepared is in any military rule book. Sun Tzu in his book The Art Of War says that the best commander is the one who wins a battle without a fight. Attacking by seaking and win a smashing immediate victory is the prefered way to fight a war. It's being the best commander. Klingons aim to that, and who's to blame? Seems the honourable actions of klingons as depicted in TNG foward is more a case of the klingon who works for the federation to aply his values to his federation comrades, because they are his comrades now.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:14 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    Call me by my nick. And yes, i owe you the cortesy of using your own nick, for the reasons i have explained, and which are not too hard to understand at all. The fact you cannot understand this is a true testement to your lack of moral fiber. Think about that... if you can.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Dude_gimme_tabs

    by AsimovLives

    Again, i have to ask you, what Star Trek are we talking about? Because the latest St movie was a TNG movie. The latest TOS movie was The Undiscovered Country, and that one did pretty well at the box offcie and is still quite well liked by the public and fans alike.<br><br>You cannot use the TNG movies to proclaimthe ressurection of THE WHOLE OF STAR TREK by a movie which is a remake/reboot/whatever-the-fuck-that-shit-is of TOS. It's desinginuous. It's unjust, it's basic creationist-like trickery, and it's pure misdirection. Shit Trek is a TOS redo. So, it has to be compared to TOS, and TOS alone. The failure of the TNG movies are a TNG problem, not TOS or Jar Jar Abram's Shit Trek for that matter.<br><br>Again, be honest with your defense of Shit Trek, and compare it with the proper Star Trek incarnation.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Predators?

    by Wookie_1995

    Lol they look like Predators! XD Kinda cool, but the scene was not really needed so I am glad they cut it.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Proper

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Well there you have just kinda bid against yourself and confirmed in writing exactly where you are coming from by your use of the phrase, and I quote verbatim, "....the proper Star Trek incarnation."

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Dude_gimme_tabs

    by AsimovLives

    And what you think is the proper Star Trek incarnation?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    "The question of Klingon honour is quite interesting."

    by p0llk4t

    Please swallow a shotgun already you uber trekkie. Wait...you're not a trekkie right? Now that I think about it even uber trekkies wouldn't be associated with such an obsessive epic douche like yourself. Too bad your father didn't shoot his load on your mom's face. That would spare us all from having to read some of the stupidest shit ever written on the internet from a completely clueless shit stain.<br><br>AICN loves you I'm sure you personally give them thousands of hits every time they post anything to do with Trek, Bay, Abrams, Orci, etc, etc. Now who's being trolled. Be more predictable loser.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    It's not about what I think "Is" or "Isn't" Star Trek. Clearly, to you there can only ever be one Star Trek, end of story.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Pointless. But at least he's arguing about the film

    by Lost Jarv

    itself now rather than making up complete shit about Box Office/ Critical Consensus in the UK. <P>It's like banging your head on a brick fucking wall.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    O <BR> M <BR> F <BR> G

    by BringingSexyBack

    You guys still at it?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Where's that post Doc?

    by Lost Jarv

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    A Belgian!

    by Lost Jarv

    can we play the "5 famous Belgians game"? <P>That's always fun.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    "malodorous cunt"

    by YackBacker

    Wow, that's a keeper.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Belgium

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Bruges is stunning, they do steak as good as anyone, their moules are gorgeous and they invented french fries. The beer is good, ditto the chocolate. Plus they gave us JCVD. I say "Viva Belgium" !!!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    #1

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    I was just looking at the Blockbuster site to see what new releases are out that I might entertain myself with tonight as I have a night of peace & quiet. I couldn't help but notice ST:2009 is the #1 movie on their pre-order chart. Christ, it must have been such a commercial failure (end:sarcasm)

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Asimov

    by Lost Jarv

    seeing as we're talking about cow tipping in the other thread, I've got a question for you. Is it just cows or do you go goat tipping before spreading their hind legs and then rogering them senseless on the garbage pile you call a home.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    p0llk4t

    by AsimovLives

    What is your problem, you stupid fuck? Somebody didn't fucked you in the ass today and you got crancky? Get fucked, asshole! What a fucking retard you are! Go fuck yourself, mouth-breeder asshole! Fuck off and die! What a fucking ass!!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    p0llk4t

    by AsimovLives

    Yes, mouth-breeder, you fuck. You get impregnated by swallowing ox cum, cocksucker motherfucker. Fucking asshole! Fuck off, useless fucker! Fucking ass! Die already.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    I knew you could not keep it civil. You dodn't have it in you. What was it, you got upset your beloved DocPazuzu got a less then godly treatment? What was it?<br<<br>You are a lost case. And i though there was some good stuff in you, when we actually got to have a real conversation, when you actually talked like something resembling a human being. Good job, you had me fooled.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, i though i had finally found some qualities in you

    by AsimovLives

    Yesterday, we did mannaged to have a real conversation, as if I were talking with a human being. Seems i was wrong. Good job, you had me fooled for a while. What a pity.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Dude_gimme_tabs

    by AsimovLives

    My favorite Star Trek is TOS. there's lots of Star Trek, i don't go around accepting one series over the others, i just have a preference for TOS, that's all. And then there is one very shitty movie thingy which calls itselt Star trek, it's a movie directed by a miserably untalented hack, Jar Jar Abrams, and it's one of the worst retarded piece of shit i ever seen in all my life. It's the worst parody humanly imaginable of TOS. Some call it Star Trek. I call it a piece of shit.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Bite me.

    by Lost Jarv

    Talking to you is like trying to teach a retard to stop smearing shit in his own hair. <P>I was using great patience and you were being your usual hypocritical mendacious self. <P>Fuck you and the goat you rode in on.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    I don't think you know what a parody is.

    by Lost Jarv

    You, for example, are not, despite all appearances, a parody of a human being. Because there is purpose behind a parody. <P>You are an accident left in a bathroom stall by some hairy backed bitch that took the phrase "take one for the team" far too literally.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Jar Jar Abrams' is not a bad movie because it's a terrible versi

    by AsimovLives

    It's a terrible movie because as cinema it's one of the most dumbed down idiotic, retarded, badly though out, badly filmed piece of shit. That it's a bad Star Trek too is the icying of the cake. Jar Jar's Shit Trek could had been an original work about a newly created fictional universe and it would still be an horrible piece of shit. That it pisses and shits on a beloved smart classic only makes it worst.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by AsimovLives

    Keep proving my point. And what you call pacience is anything but.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    "beloved smart classic "

    by Lost Jarv

    Are you talking about Star Trek? A known cause of terminal virginity that most people look at with mild disdain. <P>I bet you speak klingon, don't you?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    when you ever do finally make a point

    by Lost Jarv

    I'll be sure to be here to blunt it. <P>You piece of discarded placenta. <P>Have you glued your vulcan ears on your favourite goat for tonight's loveplay?

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    If Portugal is Spains ass......

    by DrMorbius

    Almada must be it's sphincter.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    AssLives....Born in Almada.....

    by DrMorbius

    ...reared in every city in Portugal!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Hey AssLives...where'd ya go....

    by DrMorbius

    ..must be 'rutting' time for your herd.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Damn...missed all the fun....

    by DrMorbius

    ..or maybe (fingers crossed) AssLives head exploded ala SCANNERS!

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    "....malodorous cunt..."

    by DrMorbius

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    "take one for the team"

    by DrMorbius

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    "discarded placenta"

    by DrMorbius

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Wow...

    by ThereWolf

    "Yes, mouth-breeder, you fuck. You get impregnated by swallowing ox cum, cocksucker motherfucker. Fucking asshole! Fuck off, useless fucker! Fucking ass! Die already."<p>I'm at a loss for words.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, AssLives.

    by DocPazuzu

    Are you really so arrogant as to lecture me on "moral fiber"? I owe you NOTHING in the way of courtesy, politeness or respect. You are a proven liar and a one-track, trollish homunculus, chemically free of even a scintilla of a sense of humor, your scaly, jaundiced carcass inflated to bursting point with the noxious fumes given off by your own self-importance. <p> I'll stoop to your level, though--admit that you have been lying about Star Trek's critical reception outside of Britain and the United States, and come clean about being M-O-M and I promise I will refer to you as "AsimovLives" from here on out. <p> I know you won't take that deal, generous as it is, because as long as I call you "AssLives" you can continue dodging difficult questions by referring to the fact that I didn't "respect" you enough. <p> Have another shot of "tequilla"--I hear it's James Cameron's favorite drink.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Naw he just Corona--Pablo and Pedro peeing into the vat.

    by Sal_Bando

    Makes him warm all over. <p> He has two(2) goats-Oingo and Boingo, and has been known to indulge in a three-some w/ these fetid beasts a time or two outside Porto. <p> Oingo likes to pitch and Boingo likes to catch. Mammaries does both w/ equal flair and elan just so long as his Shatner underroos are dumbled up just right. <p> Oh and he wants you to sign his on-line petition-Mouth-breeder he is-bring back the REAL McCoy, not that Eomer fake.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Sorry...

    by ThereWolf

    this just keeps rebounding on me.<p>"Yes, mouth-breeder, you fuck. You get impregnated by swallowing ox cum, cocksucker motherfucker. Fucking asshole! Fuck off, useless fucker! Fucking ass! Die already."<p>In fact, Bob Orci should borrow that and give it to Chris Pine in the sequel. Pine can fire it at the next arch enemy. It can be his "Khaaaaan!" moment.<p>I'll try not to bring this up again.

  • Oct. 30, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Intellectual Klingons makes sense.

    by Smashing

    They're not all barbarians or they couldn't have a society, roll on a sequel.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 7:16 a.m. CST

    no, shit, Asimov, that´s why I called it ¨hairsplitting.¨

    by ZombieHeathLedger

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

    For the love if all that is good....when will you

    by southafricanguy

    guys stop going around in fucking circles about this damn film??? For fucks sake, Asimov...dude, you didnt like it, I understand why and you are more than entitled to that opinion. Lostjarv, Docpazuzu like it, and I can see why someone would, and they are entitled to their opinion. How about we all just agree to disagree and stop beating a dead horse huh guys??

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yoursefl up your fucking pussy ass

    by AsimovLives

    Motherfucker!

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    My problem with DocPazuzu and Lost Jarv is not that they loved a retarded movie. My problem with those two stupid motherfuckers is that they are retarded stupid thickheaded shallow ass anoying unsufferable pieces of shit fucking git assholes motherfuckers.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    You know what is my prioblem with the movuie? It's people calling it good and so far, nobody presented one single good and rational reason for to mistake that shit as good, or they think they are above giving good reasons. The most retarded movie of this year and gets a blind acceptance form peopel WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER, and every fucking week has a AICN forum dedicated to the ass kissing of the retarded hacks who made that shitty movie? Well, consider me one of those who delivers the much needed antidode to the ass kissing that goes around here, if you will. Were it not for guys like me, and AICN would be nothing else but the exclusive website dedicated to total ass-kissing of Jar Jar Abrams and the worship of the worst retarded stupid badly made shit movie of the year.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    And my friend, go watch District 9 ASAP. And remind yourself what REAL SCIENCE FICTION really looks like.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Real Fiction-saying DavidAsimovLives does NOT screw goats.

    by Sal_Bando

    THAT'S real science fiction, right there. C'mon Mammaries who ya tryin' to kid? we know you are fellatted by sheep, goats and kids of all makes sizes and shapes. You've got the hoofprints on your chest to prove it.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Hey Asimov.....I have seen D9, it was pretty

    by southafricanguy

    good. I never thought I would see an actual good South African film let alone a good South African sci-fi film. However I dont think it was as fresh as some people made out. I very much remember Alien Nation (a film I quite enjoyed), and its an obvious influence, but I would say that D9 was the better film, I think it did more with the concept imho...It is a pretty good/cool scifi flick though, and after TF2 and T4 I needed to see some good sci fi again. Now I just need Avatar in December and I can have the stink of the shitty Summer sci-fi films erased for good.....

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Have you seen the new trailer Asimov? What

    by southafricanguy

    do you think? I think its a pretty sweet trailer, really epic and I love how colorful it looks (im really tired of the washed out muted colors that have dominated cinematography for the last few years). Also, the action looks fucking awsome...

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    hey southafricanguy,i am very happy

    by ominus

    with the achievements of your movie industry.stander and d9 are great movies,and i hope we will see more movie talents and good movies from your country. <p>btw i didnt know that Theron was from south africa.oh boy,i didnt know that your country has such hot babes.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Hmmm....I will try to explain to you why I like

    by southafricanguy

    Star Trek overall. Now, first off the script is rather dumb and full of bad conveniances. I was very dissapointed with Nero as a villain (I dont like when the villain is nothing more than a plot device), and JJ really need to learn to pull the damn camera back during exterior space shots imho...way too many close ups of ships that made it hard to get the geography of those scenes. However I liked all of the actors who were all good, and made a lot of things work. I also liked the redesign of the costumes (less so the enterprise), and the bridge. I thought the production design inside the Narada was very cool. I thought Nimoy was wasted. It moved aat a good pace and did have some good humour. I think there is a lot of room for a sequal to improve, but I did nt mind the reinventions so much as I believe trek had painted itself into a corner with its continuity...

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Though I would nt mind a different director

    by southafricanguy

    maybe taking a crack at trek12...

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Thanks Ominus....If only you could see how

    by southafricanguy

    bad South African movies useally are you would be even more amazed. As for Theron, dude, not only is she South African, shes Afrikaans and she comes from Benoni! Thats country bumpkin, shit kicker country my friend...

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    THIS TALKBACK IS LIKE AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF INSULTS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Makes for a good reference for the next all-out flame war. Mouth-breeders. Epic.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Mouth!

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    I know what a mouth breather is, but I am not sure about a mouth breeder. Is that what I am doing when I treat a ladies mouth like her front bottie with my hoo-hah????

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    "You've got the hoofprints on your chest to prove it."

    by DocPazuzu

    Hahahahaha!

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    SAguy

    by DocPazuzu

    I dated a girl years ago from some outback place called Duivelskloof or something like that. She was lekker but not much more than that.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by DocPazuzu

    So--The Beastmaster and Hawk The Slayer: <p> Dumb fun, shit or do they have subtextual value which raises them to another level? <p> *tick, tock, tick, tock...*

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    SAguy

    by DocPazuzu

    Here's our Portuguese friend's basic problem: he has gone on record saying "there is no such thing as dumb fun", meaning that a well-made, but ultimately simple and enjoyable flick without any deeper meaning cannot be considered "good". This is why he refuses to answer my question about these movies. He's simply terrified of saying the wrong thing. <p> In other words, he has a cricket bat shoved so far up his ass that he needs a woodshaver when he goes for a haircut.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    He has time and again...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...displayed an utter inability to grok the meaning of a "visceral film experience" or how enjoyment can be had from the viewing of so-bad-that-its-good schlock. What's more, it enrages him that those of us who can, ALSO enjoy and appreciate really high quality flicks as well. <p> "A man has got to know his limitations..." <p> And A-Lives most certainly does not.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    You forgot the lying Doc!

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Adding to what Doc says, he also makes up box office fantasy statistics to support his position.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, noon CST

    AsimovLives

    by FeedTheGoat

    "You know what is my prioblem with the movuie? It's people calling it good and so far, nobody presented one single good and rational reason for to mistake that shit as good, or they think they are above giving good reasons."<p>That's not true. I've read most of the Star Trek Tb's and there have been a number of posters who have given you perfectly adequate reasons for why the movie is a good one.<p>But you choose to steamroller them as if they've never given those answers.<p>What you're doing is futile. The movie world has moved on; you should too.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    There's also Moon to consider. And The Road, which is too a SF movie. It's good to now that after the attrocious exhibition that was the first half of this year, that proper serious SF is being released, to take away the bitter taste left by the blockbusters mega-shits like Jar Jar Abrasm's Shit trek, Terminator 4, Transformers 2 and that GI Joe broken toys movie. It even pains me to say those titles as part of the SF genre. Thanksfully the good stuff arrived. Better late then never. And one hopes for Avatar and for master Cameron to teach those assmonkeys fucking hacks pretenders Jar Jar Abrams, Michael Bay, McG and Stephen Sommers how it's really done.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    FeedTheGoat

    by AsimovLives

    No, they haven't been very good reasons. They are all a bunch of unguarded emotionalism in disguise of an argument. "I had fun!". "Jar Jar Abrams directed it out of the park". "The opening scene is so emotioonal". "The characters are like the original series/the character are not like the origunal series". Everything is just permutations of the same GENERIC stuff. It's all extremely generic. But when faced with the real questions, when they have to actually give justification for the movie's constant plotting stupidity, contrieved coincidences and general nonsense, all they can come up is with "but i had fun!!" and little else. At best, they come up with invented stuff that's not in the movie, lots of maybes but not with any real thing from the movie. And the argument of "it's in the comic, it explains it" is just the final coup out. If the movie needs a comic to explain the background, then it failed at the basics. The movie is a complete failure, and nothing the appolgists have said so far amounts to an actual explaination of real justification. Lots of appeals to emotions, lots of pre-made phrases, lots of maybes, and nothing rational and logical. They say a lot, but tell nothing much.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    It's extremely appropriate that you liked Jar Jar Abrams's Shit Trek so much. It figures. How could it had been any other way?

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Dude_gimme_tabs

    by AsimovLives

    Lying? That takes some cheek! I just buy into all this nonsense bullshit of Jar Jar Abrams's being a mega-hit. It's not. The appologists say it as if the movie was the most successful movoie of the year. It's not. The Hangover surpassed it's box office numbers on raw numbers alone. For the extremely expensive movie that it was, 150 millions, adn the lots ofmoney thrown in at it's advertizement, it's box office results is not an all that fat result. Even Paramount admited as much, that compared to the projections they had thanks to first week results, it feel short of expectations. It made money, but it was not mega-bucks. And the movie that really made the type of killing at the box office that the Shit Trek claims their movie did, there's only one this year so far, and it's Transformers 2. That's the one who really was a massive mega-hit and brough down the house. That's the one who made an insane box office profit. Not Shit Trek, but another shit movie, Transformers. I just don't buy into the over-enthusiastic bullshit. The JarJarTrek fanboys might believe whatever the hell they wish to believe, the but numbers tell a less sunny story.<br><br>But don't fret, there's always the sequel. If Shit Trek 2 follows the sequel trend of today, like in The Dark Knight and Transformers 2, maybe Shit Trek 2 will make the real unambiguous killing at the box office. I wouldn't be suprised if it does.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    No, Asimov...

    by FeedTheGoat

    I've read these Tb's and you've been given many and varied reasons why these folk enjoyed the movie, "fun" being just one - and you are allowed to have fun, by the way. You're choosing to discount all those reasons.<p>I'm not a Trekkie, I watched the movie and it was okay. Amazingly, I too thought the opening carried an emotional punch, a punch the rest of the movie never reached again. Coming out of the cinema, the audience, who ranged in age from about 10 to 60, were excited, buzzing. Are you telling me that all those people, myself included, are fucking idiots? I don't think you're an idiot because you don't like it. I personally detested Terminator Salvation but I'm not going to come on here for 6 months panning the fucker. Because. It's. Pointless.<p>You're right about one thing; a movie shouldn't need a comic to fill in the blanks.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    See, AsimovLives?

    by DocPazuzu

    Even when I use your nick you refuse to answer my questions, so fuck you from here on out.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    FeedTheGoat

    by DocPazuzu

    You can't argue "emotional punch" because AssLives has never experienced one in front of a movie. Ever. Being whatever borderline autistic letter combo his particular condition is, it's made it impossible for him to connect with a film on those terms. <p> Either that, or he's simply an emotionally stunted, weeping masturbator. <p> Oh, and he's in all certainty a virgin as well. <p> Hence the weeping.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    Fuck, are you guys still arguing?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Fuck off, lockes...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...you clueless, booger-eating, dumbass Donny Kerabatsos clone. <p> How can you even be alive?

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You know, it doesn't hurt to actually LIKE stuff once in awhile.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Well, lockes...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...I'm glad you just admitted to being a troll. Nobody who hates as many things as you do could possibly be serious when accusing someone else of not liking anything.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Dude, get a sense of humor

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I used to take movies really seriously, but now, I just kinda shrug them off. I love movies, but really to compare the new Star Trek to shit like Watchmen just blows my mind.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    lockes...

    by DocPazuzu

    ....what the fuck are you talking about? When did I ever compare the two? <p> Also, if you just "shrug off" movies, why the fuck are you even here? Everyone-- and I mean EVERYONE --hates you. Didn't you get the memo?

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Fuck Off lockes........

    by DrMorbius

    Go back to masturbating over your Bumblebee doll with the signed picture of Hurley taped to it's head. Oh, and that little 'present' your boyfriend left for you the other night, it wasn't a real pearl necklace!

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You asshole. Are you still hugging your Watchmen Graphic Novel?

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Lockes.....you're nothing but a little cunt stain...

    by DrMorbius

    ...always putting down what other people like, then pissing in your sissy boy pants when someone mentions your masturbatory trio, Star Whores, Trannyformers and that piece of shit that is truly lost. What's the matter, did you try to pawn your 'pearl necklace' and your 'girlfriend?'and they wouldn't take them. You should have fully inflated her first! HAHAHAHAH What an ASSHOLE!!

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 8:22 p.m. CST

    WATCH MAN?.....What's that?

    by DrMorbius

    Code for when you hive your boyfriend a reach-a-round. Watch man!!!FUCKING ASS!

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Lockes shits on everything yet loves the prequels

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Like Mr. Burns and his teddy bear Bobo.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed Big Robots Hitting Each Other Again II

    by Sal_Bando

    Despite it being mindless and rather horrible in all the wrong places. I still had fun w/ it. Sad I know. <p> Watchmen on the other hand wasn't that great, I was MEeeeeeeeeehhhhh it had some good parts and characters but you really need to be dialed into this whole alternate universe of Moore's, and it didn't come off for me. <p> However, I H*A*V*E* figgered out that one of The PaZoozoo's old Dueling partners--Anchorite(TM) HAS to be JettLee93, but this time AFTER the lobotomy. It's the only way to be sure. <p> Lockes weren't you also known as Skywokkerfamily or something at one time??? <p> Mammaries your Goat called and wants to know why you flunked your blood test again.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Oh it's it's Noted_Sage Dr_Morbius.

    by Sal_Bando

    Noted_Sage. Very important that you remember and add that part of his title. Noted_Sage. It makes Quothing his bon mots-official.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    OH WOW A CUNT STAIN? GEE! THAT'S COOL!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    At least I don't argue in a week late talkback.

  • Oct. 31, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST

    I was also really underwhelmed by Watchmen

    by southafricanguy

    That film really left me bewildered at the stuff fandom creams in its pants over. Frankly I found it smug with an inflated sense of self importance. It was like the film never earned the audiance thinking its clever, it just expected it right from the get go. I think it was made with way too much reverence to the source material as if to have adapted it to make it more cinematic would have been sacrilage or something...That ink blot face dude was damn awsome, and I liked the adult tone of it. The effects were mostly good, and the alternative history angle was interesting, but as a whole I was very unimpressed after reading so much gushing over it on this site, and especially by that fat sack of shit Farci....

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 1:15 a.m. CST

    Actually, Bando...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...anchorite IS back, albeit under the name of Bicycle Sharer.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Watchmen was so boring

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Really, the comic was boring, too, though. It read like a book. Maybe it was unfilmable. There wasn't ONE character in that story you could attach yourself too, because as soon as you got to learn about someone, they'd switch to someone else. Someone even MORE boring. Ugh.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, you must be so happy...

    by AsimovLives

    ... so many of your concubines are in here to make you company. Time to raise that red lantern.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:21 a.m. CST

    and Doc, i love your defense of "dumb fun"

    by AsimovLives

    It was hysterical. Great for a laugh.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Eat shit, AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...you lying fuck. I noticed, by the way, that you in the Avatar TB use Total Film's review of Terminator 4 as its "official" stand, even after spending loads of time in THIS talkback bullshitting about how Total Film's review of Star Trek CAN'T be its official stance anymore since that one reviewer mentioned District 9 and Moon as being the only really good SF movies of the year. <p> You just got busted, you lying, hypocritical piece of shit.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:24 a.m. CST

    "Great for a laugh."

    by DocPazuzu

    That's simply because you are unable to understand it. Your appreciation of movies is very, very narrow which is what makes you handicapped in this regard.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:35 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    I read your reasons and what you think of Jar Jar Abrams' Shit Trek, and frankly, your post reads more like a damning accusation then a defense. The negative stuff in your list far outweights the good stuff. So, this is what keeps puzzling me, why people still feel so positive about a movie which even most of the fans still find so much problems and faults in it? since when a moviwe is good when the problems outweights the virtues? and since when a good cast and some production design alone makes a good movie? Cinema is filled with bad movies pissed and hated by the geeks and public alike which have good cast a good production designs. So, why should Shit Trek be any different? Why should Shit Trek get a preferential treatment over all other bad movies? It's no lie when i say that movies with similiar or even less problems then Shit Trek have been demolished and shat upon by the geeks and AICN in here. so,what makes Shit Trek any special? Becasue it borrows the name Star Trek? Because it was directed by the guy who over-plays his "creator" card of Lost? The advertizement was really reallty that awesome and give away free T-shirts and now people feel a sense of loyalty to it? Really, it doesn't make any kind of sense, as far i'm concerned. Or movies ar enow measured as being good because it has a bucketload of CGI and super-fast editing? Because Terminator 4 had those as well, and it was far more despised and hated, as it should. Frankly, i see absolutly no difference between the faults of Terminator 4 and Shit Trek. Both movie suffer the same problems. And one got loved, and another got hated. And frankly, for me, it all seems so random. One movie, Shit Trek, got loved because it got lucky. It's the only thing that offers any explanation for Shit Trek's acceptance, fortuitousness, and nothing else.<br><br>Saying that, i think Jar Jar Abrams and his two assclown spriptwriting slaves Bob Porci and The Klutzman should make the next Shit Trek movies. The dammage is already done, and they should be the ones to stick to it to the end. At least it would give the saga some continuity and consistency, all else failing.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:41 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    And i completly agree with your opinion of Watchmen. The movie offers a very funny style of faithfulness, in that it was faithful to the surface but was not to the very core and themes of the comic book it's supposed to be an adaptation from. I think i would be far more forgiving and accepting of an adaptation that would alter the plot but would retain the characterizations, the theme and the ideals in the comic, and had the guts to include the squid. I tell you, a movie that has the guts to put a CGI penis onscreen on a superhuman flying god-like and present him as a dramatic character and yet back out at the squid, is a movie with some serious conflicting unresolved issues. I'd love to be a fly in the wall and witness the moment when Zack Snyder explained why it was justifiable and not ridiculous to show a naked god onscreen but not a giant geentic artificial made squid. Must had been a very entertaining meeting.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Sal_Bando, so you loved Transformers 2

    by AsimovLives

    Quite telling. Say no more.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:51 a.m. CST

    And DocPazuzu, if youn really want to have

    by AsimovLives

    a conversation with me call me by my nick, or else get fucked. And for your information i never saw that Hawk The Slayer or whatever the fuck is that early 80s movie called. Why should i even coment on a movie i never saw? You want o ask me anything please do, but do so as if you remembred how to be a human being. If you can't do it then pretend, it will work.<br><br>And put your bitches in line, their xenophobic bullshit is showing their sewer rat level intellect. We wouldn't want the rest of the guys know you have such a poor taste for concubines, would we?

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 6:58 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    The good thing about Avatar, and here's where i put my hopes in that movie, is that Cameron will show to that miserable hack Jar Jar Abrams how epic SF really looks like, by delivering both spectacle and some food for thoughs, however a small morsel it migth be, which is far more then what Jar Jar Abrams didn't deliver IN A STAR TREK MOVIE!<br><br>Of course, if his Shit Trek movie is any indication,the lesson that Jar Jar Abrams will take from Avatar is that his next movie will need MORE FULL CGI SEQUENCES and MORE FULL CGI CHARACTERS. And a bigger budget then Avatar's.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST

    You insincere piece of shit

    by DocPazuzu

    I DID use your nick when I asked you that question for the thousandth time and you STILL refuse to answer it, so don't give me that evasive horsehit. <p> As for xenophobia, your condescending attitude towards Americans and Brits is even worse than the goatfucking stuff because you're actually being serious. <p> Don't like the names of the movies mentioned and want to hide behind that? Fine, there's a million more titles I can choose from: <p> Motel Hell, Predator, Killer Klowns From Outer Space, Deathstalker, The Land That Time Forgot, When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth, At The Earth's Core, etc, etc, et-fucking-cetera. <p> You STILL don't have the intellectual courage to tackle the problem.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 7:35 a.m. CST

    If Abrams...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...had made the episodes "Spock's Brain" or "Gamesters of Triskelion", you'd be screaming your head off. However, since you're a hypocritical and anally retentive fuckstain you reserve all your bile for the one Star Trek movie that has received the BEST reviews of any Star Trek movie ever.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Fareal

    by AsimovLives

    No, i don't think that delected scene changes anything. If Jar Jar Abrams wanted it in the movie, he would had left it in. but he didn't. He though it was better for the movie to have the notion that Nero sitted at the same stop for 20 years at the same place waiting for Spock to show up. The though the movie would be better that way, would make more sense (whatever that fucking hack calls sense). If it's not in the movie, then it's not part of the story. Retconning it with a delected scene is absurd. Jar Jar Abrams had his chance to make the movie had a little more sense with that scene, and chosed not to include it. I guess he was too preocupaired his movie would had not enough scene time to show off the lense flares, useless shots of the camera hurling through space in shaky-cam more around the spaceships, and inconsequential repetitive scenes with terrible dialogue.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    "If Abrams had made the episodes "Spock's Brain" or "Gamesters of Triskelion", you'd be screaming your head off."<br><br>That's all that your "arguments" are, a bunch of ifs and ifs an ifs. Blablabla. Typical Jar Jar Abrasm's Shit Trek appologism nonsense. Even as an ad hominum fallacy is lame and weak.<br><br>And i rather would be a "anally retentive" (whatever that pseudo-Freudian bullshit means) guy then a mindless drone who accepts the most blantant filmmaking erors and try to pretend they are not there so i could enjoy a stupid retarded dumb shit of a movie.<br><br>I'm going to give you a little lesson of hypocrisy. i hope you ar enot one of those people who admires movies because they got details rigth and were very concisous of details. I really hope you ar enot one of those who think that details are important in movies and can make or break a scene, an acting or a a whole movie. I really hope you ar enot one of those who give a fuck about details. Because i of you ever ever used in your opinion of a movie the notionof details in support of it, then the hypocrite here is you. either detail is important IN ALL MOVIES OR NONE. You can't have it both ways, friendo. You can't praise one movie for being very good because it is meticulous with details, and then do a great defense of Jar Jar Abrams's Shit trek and derate the detractors because they are "only" using the movie's details as ONE OF THE MANY reasons this movie is an undefensable piece of shit.<br><br>So, how is it, boy? do details matter or not? Becasue i can name a tonne of movies which were pretty "anally retentitive" in their attention to detail, and which end up being one of the qualities that they are praised. again, and this is the funny thing about you, you are critcising me for a quality that many good movies and filmmakers have. Good job, idiot. You really didn't though this through, did you? Figures.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Here's a litmus test for all of you:

    by AsimovLives

    In this hypotethical scenario, if you had to chose permanently one franchise over the other, what would it be your choice?<br><br>A) Christopher Nolan's Batman<br>or<br>B) Jar Jar Abrams' Trek.<br><br>The answers, of course, will be very telling.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    My answer, of course, is Christopher Nolan's Batman

    by AsimovLives

    You know, the smart fun movies.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    And DocPazuzu, the xenophobic appologist

    by AsimovLives

    Whatever criticism i have gave of the americans or 8very rarely) the brits, it's done based on CORRENT WORLD EVENTS or things that can be easily acessed in news or even in covnersations in here. What you and your concubines do is even worst then the most offending of stereotypes, you must invente stupid shit out of your ass based on complete blind ignorance. The fuckign point being, were I an american, you would even bring my nationality as way of insult? Of course not, you fucking degenerated xenophobic shits.<br><br>You are a bunch of xenophobic shits, and you can't rationalized your way out of that predictment, idiot. The moment you brough those crass stupid national insults, you steped into xenophobia. You are like those idiots in movies like Bruno and borat, whoa re so stupid and xenophobic in your nature, you don't even know when you are being caught saying that shit. your excuse, it's all for laughs? Good try. It's xenophobia, fool. What's your problem, you suffer from cognitive dissonance or something? Get real, fool!

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Mammaries your Real choice is:

    by Sal_Bando

    do you like the Brown spotted goat or the white stringy Goat? And do you guzzle Mateuse or Inglenook w/ same?

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Jarv has it right-Portugal=Landfill.

    by Sal_Bando

    Almada=back end of stable. Mammaries=currently ensconced at said back end of stable.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Ah PaZooz--Bike sharer is Anchorite(TM)?

    by Sal_Bando

    Really??? You and MrGeyser are good at catching on who the returnees are.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    And remember, Mammaries---

    by Sal_Bando

    ---you're a HUGE AliensVs.Predators fanatic---so please, insert your head back inside the nearest Ovine orifice and get back to whatever you were already doing inside there---

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, check out your concubine Sal_Brando

    by AsimovLives

    The bitch is in heat. He's making a whole spectacle to call your attention. You better server that bitch pronto, man.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    So, Sal_Brando, what's your choice?

    by AsimovLives

    Nolan's Batman or Jar Jar's Trek? Don't avoid the question, answer it honestly. If you dare.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    AssLives

    by DocPazuzu

    The goat-baiting is done to get a rise out of YOU, because you have no inkling of how condescending you are to Americans and Brits. It's the only way to penetrate that fat head of yours. I've even had a Portuguese girlfriend, which is one more than you've had. <p> And no, she wasn't a goat.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Also, AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...I'm so very pleased with your latest posts regarding movies since they prove EVERYTHING we've been saying about you. <p> 1) "And i rather would be a "anally retentive" (whatever that pseudo-Freudian bullshit means) guy then a mindless drone who accepts the most blantant filmmaking erors and try to pretend they are not there so i could enjoy a stupid retarded dumb shit of a movie." <p> Oh, you mean the very same you do while watching Spock's Brain and Gamesters of Triskelion? Talk about hypocrisy. <p> 2) "either detail is important IN ALL MOVIES OR NONE" <p> Very, very shallow and one-dimensional view of films. Movies can have a meticulous attention to details and still be shit, just as some very broad-stroked films can be either brilliant (such as À Bout De Souffle) or enjoyed as merely fun. This broader appreciation of film escapes you completely. You are making the mistaken assumption that if one enjoys a "dumb fun" film, one must be dumb as a human being. This fear is what's making it impossible for you to see the truth. You, like many fundamentalist christians, believe that if the "opposite" side has any merit, it will detract from your own world view. That's nothing but intellectual cowardice and emotional weakness. You are the proud owner of both. <p> 3) "Nolan's Batman or Jar Jar's Trek?" <p> Batman, probably. However, what you don't seem to understand, and which your post reveals beyond any doubt, is that you actually think there has to be a choice. See, I enjoy The Dark Knight as much as you do -- maybe even more -- but I also enjoyed the hell out of Star trek, but in a different way. Do you understand what I'm saying? I. DON'T. HAVE. TO. CHOOSE. <p> You tried to teach me about hypocrisy, but once more it is you who is getting schooled. <p> Have another shot of "tequilla" -- I hear it's James Cameron's favorite drink.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    AssLives....heres a Litmus test for you.

    by DrMorbius

    If you had the choice between living in butt fuck almada and fucking goats for a living or...<P>Never mind, for you there is no other choice.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    DrMorbius

    by AsimovLives

    Nice try, dumb lover. Again, it proves you are affraid to be tested with a simple litmus test i created above. And again, you prove how an eager concubine yopu are to docPazuzu.You must really believe you are impresing him with your dumb shit, don't you? Well, gues what? Youa re. He loves that type of dumb shit you write. You are on your way, bitch. Good job.<br><br>By the way, maybe it's not a litmus it would do you good, but lithium. And a good spanking from your mother and dad to teach you civility, you xenophobic cocksucker.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    "Batman, probably."<br><br>I love that answer. I really do. It's hysterical. Probably, he says. He's not evne sure!! How fucking lame can you get? You are not even a dedicated ass to the church of Dumb. You ar ejust some lame dick not even having a certainly if the Nolan's movies are superior to Jar Jar's Trek. Good lord, how fucking hard can that be? When i though you could not be more lame, you suprise me. Good job, sir! There's still some suprises out of you. Well, i guess i can't call you boring, not with you still suprising with lame idioticy liek this. Holy shit!<br><br>And go screw with your "maybes if" pseudo-arguments again. Jar Jar Abtrams didn't do those two episodes, so why the fuck they should even be brough to the conversation? For a bit of academic hypothesising? What rhe fuck for? You think i would mistake that for an argument? Your beloved concubines might, but they are dumb. You have been in their company too long, you already forgot what an argument realy looks like. I criticise Jar Jar Abrams ON WHAT HE HAD DONE. that's the fucking point. WHAT HE HAS DONE. As in, A VERY STUPID RETARDED PIECE OS SHIT MOVIE. Got it? not one some hypothetical shit he could had never do because he would be a baby back then. Got it, chief? I piss on Jar Jar Abrams on what he did. The fucking movei he really did for real. So, get your maybes if pseudo-argumentation bullshit and bury it already, it's fucking useless. If you want to have an argument, you have to think. Think. Really think. Think!

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    And maybe if it was snowing we would be skiing.

    by AsimovLives

    "Maybe ifs" pseudo-arguments!! Pfff!!! Unbelievable! People actually think this is smart?? Too much Dumb Fun, i guess. Completly mixed up their minds, can't tell the difference anymore.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    AssholeLives

    by DrMorbius

    How is it possible that you have the time to be on AICN all the time AND 'service' all your goats. You cretinous motherfucker, the irony of you calling someone else zenophobic puts your standing in the TONGUE CLEANERS HALL OF FAME above reproach. Your mommy and daddy tried to spank you but couldn't find the right spot, cause you're ALL ASS!

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    AssholeLives...

    by DrMorbius

    Sorry to disappoint you but the title of the movie you've been looking forward to is not...<P><P>The Men Who SHARE Goats.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    "why the fuck they should even be brough...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...to the conversation? For a bit of academic hypothesising? What rhe fuck for?" <p> You mean like Nolan's Batman?

  • Nov. 1, 2009, noon CST

    "pseudo-arguments!! Pfff!!! ...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...Unbelievable! People actually think this is smart??" <p> You mean like your intellectually fallacious "choice" between Nolan's Batman and Abrams' Trek? <p> My goodness, you really haven't got a clue what "hypocrisy" even means, do you?

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    "Batman, probably"

    by DocPazuzu

    ...means that I can't see into the future and know what all the Batman movies in this cycle will be like. "Pobably" means that Nolan will most likely make a more consistently satisfying experience, based on his earlier work, whereas Abrams is an iffier subject, despite Star Trek being great. <p> I see you still haven't understood the idea of not having to choose, you fundamentalist freakshow.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, atend to your concubine DrMorbius

    by AsimovLives

    Can't how much in heat that bitch is? That bitch has been calling your atention quite alot today. See that biotch so desperate to cal your attention. It's almost pathetic. Atend to the bitch, man, don't be cruel for someone who loves you so much. The bitch is in need, take pity on him.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    That's five "bitches"...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...in one three-line reply. So much for your arguments. You fail once again.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    AssholeLives

    by DrMorbius

    Does it bother you that you live in a Sheep Shagging country and all you get are the goats? Or in words even you can understand...Your goats are your bitches, and concubines, poor goats don't get any say in this?<P>Baaaa-asimov is my Baaa-itch, please 'tend' to me Assmunch.<P>The saddest part of your pathetic existence...out of all those goats, you fuck the ugliest ones! Assbitch, bitchass.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, The Dumb Lover

    by AsimovLives

    I know you are stupid, but you are making yourself even more then what you normally are. and that's not good. just ebcause you don't have an argument doesn't mean you have to play dumber then you are. Even i know the limits of your idioticy, and it's not as low as your latest posts give any indication.<br><br>Why i brough nolan? You know why: to contrast an untalrnted hack like Jar Jar Abrams and his dumb shit unfun movie to a real talrnted filmmakers and his real smart and fun movie. Because you started all that stupid "dumb is fun" shit. I had to bring a contrast to the dumb shit you keep bringing in tod efend Shit trek as legit fun because it's dumb.<br><br>There's no fallacious preference to Nolan's Batman orver Jar Jar's Shit trek. I prefer Nolan's movie because it's a good smart movie made by a good smart director. Gezz, what are you going to do next, you are going to criticise me for prefering the smarter movie over the dumb one? I'd like to see you try that, it would be good for laughs.<br><br>You defense of the "probably" is completly lame. Shit, i guess you saw how dumb you were with your response and are trying to do dammage control. Nice try, but fail. You should had though that shit before you had comited to writing. but that's your problem, isn't it, you are not used to thinking? I mean, you are the dumb Lover, aren't you? Who PROBABLY will like a nolan's movie better then a Jar Jar Abrams. PROBABLY. Mr Probably DocPazuzu probably might think nolan a better filmmaker. No certainties based on direct acesable evidences for Mr Probably here. It would demand too much thinking for that. Isn't that so, Mr Probably?<br><br>And Mr Probably, i think i know what hypocrisy means now. I learned it from reading your posts. Thank you for the valuable lesson, Mr Probably.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Captain Probably here is unbelievable!

    by AsimovLives

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    AssLives

    by DocPazuzu

    1) You reason for bringing up Nolan is EXACTLY the same as my reason for bringing up those two terrible episodes of Star Trek. <p> 2) Your argument is fallacious because you are creating a false choice which nobody but pretentious, humor-free, goatfucking douchebags like you would even entertain. It has no place in the real world because in the real world most film fans like to vary their cinematic cuisine. <p> 3) No, Nolan is the better filmmaker, no question about that. Which is why I would PROBABLY want to only watch his Batman movies over Abrams' Trek if I had to make that choice. However, like I said, only borderline autistics like you would force themselves into such a ridiculous predicament. <p> How many more ways do you want me to demonstrate your hypocrisy and fundamentalism?

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    "You reason for bringing up Nolan is EXACTLY the same as my reason for bringing up those two terrible episodes of Star Trek."<br><br>Bullshit! Your whole argument was a very silly what if scenario that is completly absurd. You are so used to the sycophancies of your concuibines that you cannopt understand you just made a stupid argument even if it bited in your ass. I gfuess you are so used yup to the notion that DELIBERARTLY MAKING A DUMB SHIT is a good thing you do that and think you are pretty smart for it. God, you are lame! Think, for fuck's sake, think! Think!

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    This is hysterical

    by rogueleader66

    The laugh riot this tb has become is the best entertainment I have had all weekend. Keep it up guys!! I usually like to jump in but I don't wanna disrupt the psychotic flow of this TB, in fact I have said too much already....carry on fellas!! <P>BTW....this has been said not to insult anyone, I am genuinely entertained by the banter here.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Did you know Mammaries is a Disney TV fan? No?

    by Sal_Bando

    He has this game he likes to play called 'Billary Goats Duff" where he does a threesome w/ a pair of well chosen if over abused goats-one called Lizzie and the other Maguire. They call him Billary Duff and-

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    -he pitches, and catches, all day long.

    by Sal_Bando

    The goats are kinda mean to him though, they make him wear a tutu and he's then forced to go the extra Miley---

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Masks are a decent workaround for the forehead, but I still...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... am glad this scene was cut. The voice (Victor Garber, was it? Sounded a little like F. Murray Abraham) didn't sound raspy or "klingonney" enough. It sounded more like a Romulan's voice. Of course, you could explain that by saying he was trying to fake a Romulan accent as an interrogation technique.<p> But the scene is lame for way too many other reasons:<p> - Klingons should do the honourable thing and use their fists to beat the info out of him. They wouldn't stoop to techniques that are more befitting of a Cardassian or a Romulan interrogator.<p> - Nero and his buddy sure looked healthy for a couple of guys who had spent 20 years in The Aliens' Graveyard. Do the Klingons treat their prisoners better than ST:6 led us to believe?<p> - Seems to fuck with continuity, since it's long been implied that the Klingons and Romulans were allies, or at least working together, to counter the growing influence and power of the Federation.<p> - If you're going to use the brain slugs from Wrath of Khan, don't give them a different name and explanation. Just use the same slugs.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Asimov's "Litmus test"

    by FeedTheGoat

    I'm not invested in either franchise; I would like both Batman & Star Trek to continue with good movies.<p>If you're asking me which is the better film (and I think you are) then it's The Dark Knight.<p>And stop calling me a fucking idiot for daring to like a throwaway movie.

  • Nov. 1, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Well, this fight has been interesting Can we keep

    by lockesbrokenleg

    it going until the DVD comes out?

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Asimov, you goatfucking moron

    by Lost Jarv

    the reason your litmus test is bullshit is that it isn't a litmus test. <P>What you are asking people to do is to choose, once and for all, between two films that don't bear comparison. <P>It's as irrelevant as me saying to you: <P>Choose once and for all between Reservoir Dogs and Emma. <P>See? <P>Now back to your well documented predication for goat ringpiece.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 4:16 a.m. CST

    No, AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...the reasoning is exactly the same: <p> 1) You brought up Nolan (an outside element) to show the difference between him and Abrams. <p> 2) I brought up those terrible episodes of Star Trek (outside elements) to show the difference between the way you view them and Abrams' Trek. <p> The only difference is that your example blew up in your face while mine revealed your fundamentalist hypocrisy and dual standards. <p> You're welcome.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 4:28 a.m. CST

    speaking of LOST... how does the fat guy stay fat?

    by ZombieHeathLedger

    is there a burger king on the deserted island somewhere?

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 4:37 a.m. CST

    What's a dumb lover?

    by Lost Jarv

    is it someone that loves stupidly, someone that loves stupidity or someone that is stupid but loves? <P>It's meaningless and confusing. Do you think it makes sense in goat?

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Bestiality and Xenophobia

    by Lost Jarv

    it isn't xenophobic to say that you're a goat fucking asshead. <P>It's a fact. <P>It has nothing to do with you being Portuguese either. It's simply that you like to rimjaw goats. <P>Secondly, I bring up your specific nationality because you keep making sweeping generalisations about what us, the British, do and don't like. You compound this by making hilariously xenophobic statements about Americans. <P>What's sauce for the goose, dickhead, is sauce for the gander.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 5:06 a.m. CST

    My love for j j abrams...

    by soup74

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 5:08 a.m. CST

    oops..

    by soup74

    My girlfriend is from Russia, She got here 5 years ago, and has no idea what Star Trek is.. She loved it, and i got to see a Star Trek movie in the theater and not feel bad for dragging her there.. J J is my hero.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 5:15 a.m. CST

    and wow, DocPazuzu and AsimovLives...

    by soup74

    I guess i havent been reading the talkbacks closely lately.. how have i missed the round tables of the real life Eltingville Club?

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Fundamentalist

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Fundamentalist is correct. You exhibit the same ranting unshakeable self convictions and delusion of the Choudhury's of this world standing outside Findsbury Park mosque.<p> Repeat, ad infinitum Asimov Lives, "There is no other God than Rodenberry, Abrahms is a false prophet, there is no other God than Rodenberry, Abrahms is a false prophet...."<p> I hope that they have you on a watch list somewhere, before you turn up at a convention with your Bang-Bang vest on to punish the non-believing infidels who dared enjoy ST:2009.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Exactly Tabs.

    by Sal_Bando

    Scary isn't it?

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST

    at least fundamentalists blow themselves up

    by Lost Jarv

    not something he's likely to do.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 5:45 a.m. CST

    Mammaries of Mommy=huge fan of Space Hippies episode.

    by Sal_Bando

    You know I'm right.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Wheras all Mammaries does is blow up Goat dolls.

    by Sal_Bando

    Verrrrrrry sad.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    I love this film

    by Drsambeckett1984

    I love this film. I love this film. I love this film. I love this film. I love this film. I love this film. I love this film.

  • Nov. 2, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    AssLives = a Goats Choat!

    by DrMorbius

    Where are your concubines (harem) today? Waiting for your daily 'pickle tickle?' Oh, and in the civilized world your concubines (harem) is called a 'herd.' Unlike when your neighbor says he 'heard' you rogering your goats at all hours of the day and night!