Hogarth: I know you feel bad about the deer, but it's not your fault. Things die. That's part of life. It's bad to kill, but it's not bad to die. Iron Giant: You die? Hogarth: Well, yes, someday. Iron Giant: I die? Hogarth: I don't know. You're made of metal, but you have feelings, and you think about things, and that means you have a soul. And souls don't die. Iron Giant: Soul? Hogarth: Mom says it's something inside of all good things, and that it goes on forever and ever. Iron Giant: Souls don't die.*Sniffle*. Even if you're an atheist, is that such a horrible notion to impart to children? Replace Bibles and Torahs and Qur'ans with this simple exchange, and the world would be a much better place. There are millions of moviegoers out there who don't realize how special THE IRON GIANT is. For most, it's just another babysitter on the DVD shelf. Hell, for many critics, it's just that little movie that got Brad Bird gainful employment up in Emeryville, CA. But here's the thing: I think it's a better overall film than THE INCREDIBLES or RATATOUILLE. Frankly, it's one of the few modern animated films worthy of Disney's golden age. And you know how Disney mines those classics with rereleases and merchandising and insultingly inferior direct-to-DVD sequels? You should be doing that with THE IRON GIANT (though feel free to skip the insultingly inferior direct-to-DVD sequels). Basically, you've got a WILLY WONKA & THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY on your hands, but you're treating it like... well, QUEST FOR CAMELOT. Our Iron Giant deserves better. He's Superman. Here endeth the harangue.
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:23 a.m. CST
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST
by Weapon M
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST
as a kid I thought it looked kinda dumb in the advertisements for it so I didn't see it in theaters, but later I did rent it on video and was blown away by how awesome it was!
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST
TOUCHED BY THE CRIMSON KING! TOUCHED BY THE SAAAAAVIOR!
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST
no one EVER talks about? Cats Don't Dance, while I admit I haven't seen it in forever I really enjoyed it as a kid, it's a very fun musical homage to golden age Hollywood, with dancing and singing cats....
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST
Bless Ted Hughes.
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:42 a.m. CST
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:44 a.m. CST
which is why it probably wont happen, Hollywood never does things like that anymore, still there's hope that maybe WB is working on a super special blu ray
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST
by GibsonUSA Returns
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:59 a.m. CST
An HD remaster shown in IMAX would be fucking sweet. I love the movie, awesome animation, awesome story, awesome acting, awesome sound, just...... Awesome.<BR><BR>Why did it fail though? what did it open against? I remember Roger Ebert even had a hard on for this film for awhile, and was calling for the "New classic" title. What happened?
Oct. 28, 2009, 1 a.m. CST
Into promoting Wild Wild West...and seemed to abandon it.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST
Opened against THE SIXTH SENSE, THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR and MYSTERY MEN (which lost a shitload of money for Universal). THE IRON GIANT's also finished behind the third weekend of INSPECTOR GADGET.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:04 a.m. CST
I agree with you about the movie, and nearly everything you said. It's one of the best (western) animated movies of the last decade+. But this:<p> "which were lensed by, respectively, Caleb Deschanel and Vittorio Storaro"<p> "Lensed?" If you slip into VARIETY-SPEAK, my god, you're dead to me. Dead to us all, I suspect.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:05 a.m. CST
My parents broke down at that part. It was one of those movies I saw as kid that I know was special. Though, after reading about the giant space bat in the book, I kind of wished that was in the movie. But can't mess with art.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST
You're right. Horrible lapse on my part.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:08 a.m. CST
instead of preachy crap? The animation was great, but the story sucked and was too concerned with a simplistic moral. Bird does deserve the credit/blame for the movie. The movie has no relation to Ted Hughes' book or Townsend's musical adaptation.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:11 a.m. CST
or did the resounding success of "9" convince you that audiences are more receptive to a smart sci-fi cartoon?
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:16 a.m. CST
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST
I enjoyed the presentation, however someone was royally pissed to have so much of the movie spoiled w/o having seen it first. I guess I'm used to the usual Hollywood screening followed by the typical Q&A. No-go with this one. I got an earful after the presentation by a very angry female.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:19 a.m. CST
It's probably a hard habit to avoid, with all those Hollywood stars you hang out with. I have used slang, myself, once or twice.<br><br> Anyway... one of the good things about both Imax and Real3d is that they are leading to more re-releases than we've had in a long time. I wish studios did that more often; while re-releases don't make blockbuster-level sales, it seems like it would be nearly free money for the studios.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST
I showed this to my 3+5+8 year old girls. They STILL love it, the 8 year old remembers seeing it when she was 3. Amazing movie. I love it... Thanks Brad!
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST
This Movie was awesome! I remember The good ol' days of Movies with animation. now everything is Freakin CGI!! Great Movie! its a classic!
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:46 a.m. CST
Is it good?
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST
you bet your broken leg it is
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:49 a.m. CST
It had some Swearing (just a little)and as kid,I thought that was awesome seeing a cartoon movie that some swearing in. Freakin awesome movie!
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST
Focusing Wild Wild West!Not really caring about Iron Giant. Wild wild west is One of the worst movies of all time! Will smith still sucks!!
I remember seeing this opening day with about 5 other people in the theater. I think I'm in a permanent state of grumpiness partially because humanity at large has yet to embrace this film to its bosom like the classic it is. The disappointment at the time weighed heavy on me, kind of like watching Jeff Dunham's success now. You can lead a horse a water...
Oct. 28, 2009, 2:16 a.m. CST
its that good...its commercial failure only proves what diabolical taste most people have..and TF2? that incoherent dog's diarrhea did what kind of money? rest my case.
Oct. 28, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST
you nick is almost right... <p> 1ofnoimportance <p> corrected
Oct. 28, 2009, 2:20 a.m. CST
If you have not seen it ...rent it,find it, borrow it. See how good it is. It's a credit to all who brought it to the screen.
Oct. 28, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST
That said, The Iron Giant is a beautiful film.
Oct. 28, 2009, 2:41 a.m. CST
It still sucks-even after all these years
Oct. 28, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST
by dark antifyre
...and in my eyes ET and flight of the navigator and any of the other 'boy/girl and strange friend/s' films we cling to from when we were kids...
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:17 a.m. CST
Iron Giant is a great film, but there are definite flaws. Better than ET? No. <p> And not better than The Incredibles which is damned near perfect either. Just lesser known and appreciated.
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:18 a.m. CST
This film should almost be the template for the next Superman movie. Really. <P> When I saw it, I couldn't help but think how this story would actually work as Superman story (not the whole story, just elements of it), with the Iron Giant replaced by Bizarro. Basically it is the story of a "monster" who aspires to be Superman, and finally gets his chance to be the hero by sacrificing himself. That's f'ing Bizarro at his best! <P> Anyways, I am glad IRON GIANT is about old Superman, because it would be creepy to see this giant robot stalking some girl if he was a fan of modern Supes.
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST
I think it's time for Brad Bird to make Ted Hughes' 1993 sequel to The Iron Man/Giant, The Iron Woman. It's theme of environmental destruction would be pretty topical, methinks!
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:22 a.m. CST
"Staaaaaaaalkerrrrrmannnn!!!" <P> Brrrr. Just the thought of it gives me the chills...
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:23 a.m. CST
it was ok..... it was NOT a religious experience
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:25 a.m. CST
—it was everything I could have possibly hoped for from Brad Bird. I know at one point he was trying to make an animated feature of Will Eisner's "The Spirit" and it never came to pass. Tragic. But, I went to a sneak preview of this and was blown away.<br><br>I remembered the name Brad Bird from this "Amazing Stories" episode: http://tinyurl.com/yla7d2e
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:42 a.m. CST
by The Tao of Joe
Beaks is right, this film deserves a theatrical re-release this year, which is why at 10 a.m. Saturday, November 7, I will be playing "The Iron Giant" in 35mm along with the Fleischer Superman short "Metal Monsters." It all takes place at the Carousel Luxury Cinemas on 1305 Battleground Ave. in Greensboro, NC. Best part is that tickets are only $3, and you can purchase them online here:http://tinyurl.com/ygytq2p. As you can tell by our ticket prices, we're not trying to make a huge profit off this screening. We just want to celebrate this truly fantastic movie in 35mm. And if you have to make a long road trip to make it out to our screening, let me know, and I will hook you up with some free donuts.
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST
Op, The script is out there for Bizarro, and only briefly considered, though I'd LOVE to see a movie like that.<p>Indigo, I usedto have a friend of mine from the States videotape Amazing Stories for me because we couldn't get it where I lived. It was like Twilight Zone, Outer Limits and Night Gallery, but less scary (sometimes). I wish there were shows like that on TV now.<p>*sigh*
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:53 a.m. CST
and i don't say that lightly. Its absolutely perfect in every way, and its all down to an incredibly strong narrative, and a director who knows whats important. <p><p> you don't need flashy effects, or big name voice talent, if your story hasnt been hammered out into perfection. <p><p> AND its Vin Diesels best role by far.
Oct. 28, 2009, 4:10 a.m. CST
I'm old enough to be a grampa now, but it did have an effect on me when we watched it. It was no ET, but it was effecting, for sure. On the same "Classic" list as Watership Down and Secret of Nimh, as far as animation goes. Brutally honest and whimsical.<p>I wish the film-going public had more of a taste for shows like that. I wonder what 9 would have been like if it wasn't "dumbed-down" for kids so much. The short had me thinking that 9 could have been really special. It really is too bad. The failure of these films is what makes the studios and financiers avoid these projects.<p>For shame...
Oct. 28, 2009, 4:33 a.m. CST
by The Dreaded Rear Admiral
And saw it in the thrater. I was one of six folks in there. I should be grateful, as I was crying my eyes out. Still remember that...
Oct. 28, 2009, 5:22 a.m. CST
Oct. 28, 2009, 5:33 a.m. CST
Saw Iron Giant twice in the theatre. Each time afterwards, I ran to a pay phone (cell phones were out of my budget in '99), started calling all my friends and say, "YOU'VE GOT TO SEE THIS MOVIE!" Up to two years later, I was still getting calls from my friends. "I finally rented it last night because I remembered your frantic phone call, and you know what? YOU'RE RIGHT! THIS IS SO AWESOME!!"
Oct. 28, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST
INCREDIBLES however, is a modern masterpiece that begs for a sequel.
Oct. 28, 2009, 6:11 a.m. CST
—but, after the "Incredibles" I could see how someone would be let down.
Oct. 28, 2009, 6:12 a.m. CST
Don't see it as a classic(TM) but do enjoy revisiting it from time to time. Never saw Ratatooey, not wild about that one.
Oct. 28, 2009, 6:36 a.m. CST
by Mr Nicholas
Oct. 28, 2009, 7:10 a.m. CST
by Jaws Wayne
We have a really sweet US one sheet from the film framed up in our little DVD rental store called Cinemagic, don't we brother Mark ? Haha. Can't wait for Mr. Bird's next feature film and here's hopin' he'll give us a new film about those Masked Supers as well in a while.
Oct. 28, 2009, 7:27 a.m. CST
I love this film immensely, but I probably wouldn't see a re-release. Bigger doesn't mean better to me, never has. Whenever I am in the mood for the Giant, my wife and I watch the DVD, and ending crying rivers. That's good enough for me.
Oct. 28, 2009, 7:45 a.m. CST
by Semen Stains
Do it WB,you will make the big bucks this time for sure.
Oct. 28, 2009, 7:53 a.m. CST
Love Warner Brothers! Love Iron Giant! If WB re-releases the film I think it would do more to save hand drawn animation than Princess And The Frog!
Oct. 28, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST
I remember seeing it in theaters and there were about 5 other people in there with me. It's unfortunate that audiences then and now would rather be talked down to and intellectually insulted. The masses are so fucking mindless and chicken shit to take a chane on anything even something as simple as seeing a movie that's different. The public wants stupid and meaningless hence the state of America. Anyone who doesn't see the Iron Giant is definitely missing out on a masterpiece for the ages. In my opinion, it was the last great movie I saw and that was 10 years ago.
Oct. 28, 2009, 8:02 a.m. CST
by Abominable Snowcone
Iron Giant really is a great movie. Just great.<p> I'm Superman.
Oct. 28, 2009, 8:02 a.m. CST
by Jamie McBain
That would be so awesome.
Oct. 28, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
I don't remember that.<BR><BR>Anyways, I saw this in theaters back in the day (in fact, I saw this and McTiernan's terrific Thomas Crown Affair remake on the same day), and agree it's a shame it never found the audience it deserved. That said, a theatrical reissue would bomb all over again unless the film was made into 3D or some such bullshit. Yeah, it has a cult following, but so does Evil Dead, and a theatrical reissue of that would get laughed off the screen by the Saw generation.
Oct. 28, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST
by Azlam Orlandu
...and both of us absolutely love this film. It came out a couple of years before I attended animation school and it had a profound influence on me ever since. It's not perfect, but it's heart, the fact that it launched Brad Bird and the waves it made are terribly important to the world of animation (Pixar in particular.)
Oct. 28, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST
I'm disappointed that I had to discover this on DVD and never had the opportunity to see it on the big screen.
Oct. 28, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST
Probably the greatest, craziest double bill i've ever done was The Iron Giant and Fight Club. I love Iron Giant, it made me know the name Brad Bird, a name that hasn't let me down once. I would buy a ticket to a re-release in a second, but about a third of the films i see at the cinema each year are classics (i've seen about 60 classics this year so far, next up - Clouzot's Les Diaboliques on Tuesday) so i'm an easy sell. I agree with the sentiments above that a theatrical re-release probably wouldn't work because general audiences are just as thick now as then and they've had 10 more years to accept CG bullshit as the norm! And now all they'll want is 3D animation! But as a call to arms for retro theatres that specialise in showing classics like this to receptive, loyal audiences the thinking is sound. PCC or NFT in London, go to it.
Oct. 28, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST
Only saw this one on Laserdisk(!) but damn if it didn't hit me hard. Great movie, and again, great score. Would love to hear it in its proper setting.
Oct. 28, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST
Simply majestic. Since I fist saw this elegant classic gem of a film opening day back in '99, I've preached it's gospel. I remember infaticaly stating with utter certainty as I walked out of the theater that THAT was the finest animated movie ever made, and it still is. If fact I remember feeling it was so good, the only shame was that it wasn't live-action so that it would be more easily deemed rightfully superior to even the mighty E.T. and Flight Of The Navagator (because it is).<p> Although no where near the perfection of Iron Giant, another animated film I think is pretty undervalued is Over The Hedge. That's a solidly entertaining flick with some great animation and characters....but I digress...<p> Maybe Brad Bird will one day return to this masterpiece in the form of a sequel or live-action remake...or live-action sequel for that matter. I think I'd like that very much (as long as Brad Bird's the one in charge, I trust it would be magnificent). Only Michael Kamen's musical brilliance is no longer with us, so I don't know...perhaps James Newton Howard or Giacchino could pinch-hit in his place. Maybe then Pete Townsends stuff could find a place as well. If live-action, give Caleb Deschanel a call (although I'd go with Robert Richardson, look no further than Snow Falling On Cedars for proof). <p> Anyway, Iron Giant's great. That is all.
Oct. 28, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST
Oct. 28, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST
the suits gave bird the barton fink treatment<P> they made sure that the movie would be box office poison, in order to kill bird's career...but thank god for the geniuses at pixar
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST
On its initial release and buying the Iron Giant toy at the WB Store around the same time. Are there any of those WB Stores around anymore?
IRON GIANT. This film was... okay. Pretty good. Maybe even 8 out of 10.<p> Best animated movie ever? C'mon. Away with you.
Oct. 28, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST
is that how hollywood works? they finance a film to bomb a filmmakers career? sounds like a load of shit to me
Oct. 28, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST
Bird was tough on WB during the Q&A, but, again, when it came to the subject of marketing, he blamed himself for demanding that they stick with the original release date. You can blame WB for not knowing how to sell the movie initially, but it sounds like they were prepared to push the film back a little in order to create a more effective marketing campaign.
Oct. 28, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST
I'd love to see this on the big screen again. Do you think WB has the gonads to market it again?
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST
I missed out on this in theatres. I'd love to see a rerelease and be able to take my kids to it. They've seen it a couple times but I think the theatrical experience would be awesome for them.
Oct. 28, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST
I would take my kids to a theatrical re-release, just to support the makers of this fantastic gem of a film. If my kids could only have 10 DVDs in the house, this would be one of them.
Oct. 28, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST
by Read and Shut Up
...quite simply, it's a fantastic movie. It teaches you about love, friendship, sacrifice, independence, non-violence and a hopeful future - and does it ALL without EVER being cloying or "Hallmarkian."
Oct. 28, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST
hollywood has been known to shelve projects as a way to get back at filmakers....even after throwing tons of money into the project<p> the release date didnt kill the film, the horrible marketing campaign did<p> this movie works on many levels, and the idiot suits at the wb didnt know what to do with it, and were indeed pissed that bird (a relative unkown at the time) made his movie<p> well, bird got back at them...since those stupid fuckers at the wb couldnt figure out how to get back and make watchmen....he did....AND LEFT IN THE MOTHERFUCKING SQUID
Oct. 28, 2009, 10:28 p.m. CST
Pixar owes everything it has to this extraordinary motion picture.
Oct. 28, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST
...is unquestionably GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES. But THE IRON GIANT is easily in the top five.
Oct. 28, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST
Movie always seemed a little mundane to me.