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Latest SHERLOCK HOLMES poster debuts online...
Hey folks, Harry here with the latest poster for SHERLOCK HOLMES, that Guy Ritchie - reimagining - of Arthur Conan Doyle's greatest character. No matter what Drew McWeenie says! For me, Sherlock Holmes is the father of Vulcan Logic. However, with all the fragility of an ambitious human being. The rumors on the project are pretty golden. Everyone that I know inside Warner Brothers are ecstatic with the film - and I have to say... between this and A CHRISTMAS CAROL and February's WOLFMAN... Victorian England is giving us a run for our money. If only Guillermo Del Toro were shooting his script for LIST OF 7 for the best follow-up ever. Sigh. Oh well. Here's the poster, click it to see CINEMATICAL's full size version!
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Did Harry sell the site?
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lockesbrokencock
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shite doesn't interest me one bit. Jude Law looks like an alright Watson though. I think I'll check this out on DVD.
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Oh that's just some crazy bum.
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this will be good as I am actually a fan of Holmes. But I just dont trust Ritchie. Plus Im still trying to understand why the fuck Harry likes the script, which I read (albeit a slightly older version, but I recognize everything in the trailer, so it cant have been changed by much).
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...worse than anything that has ever sucked beffore. Except Watchmen. Fuck this shit. Fuck American actors playing British icons. It can only work in the other direction. And fuck bringing a "modern sensibility" to classiics and justifying it with complicated rationalizations ("Holmes was a martial artist in a way already, we just developed it...") Fuck it all. May this thing absolutely flop.
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character, and his plan is so damn cliched (its basically the same as the villain from Shanghai Knights), and we have seen it so many times now. Also, it is very dumbed down, I knew the answers behind the films "mystery" long before hOLMES did. Now maybe its just me but the audiance being ahead of Holmes is the ultimate no-no imho...
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That is one fugly fucked up design-by-committee piece of shit.
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I loved Conan Doyle's books and it's unrealistic to expect to get a movie out those these days. They want something like POTC. I'm just unhappy that Ritchie is directing and the fact that they gave the role of Holmes...to an American. Also Rachel McAdams playing Brit? Fuck that shit. Natalie Portman's accent from V for Vendetta still gives me nightmares.
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Hideous!!
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Remind anyone of those Wild Wild West posters? Just sayin...
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terribly miscast
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Someone: MAKE THIS HAPPEN!
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I feel like he is about to pull a rabbit out of his hat, or a dick out of his ass. Hey, where is DickInAss? Can't get to the keyboard right now? Must be Prime-dick in ass-time.
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I never finished it—I think someone 'borrowed' it a while back. It seemed very cool at the time. Anybody know the name of the second book?
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someone must have gotten a talking to me thinks.
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Oct 26, 2009 11:44:33 PM CDT
The Master Control Program must have deleted the TRON poster TB.
by mr. nice gaius
Let's hope it deleted lockesbrokenleg as well. Heh.
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The second book is called "The Six Messiahs." It wasn't as good as the first, I thought, but still good.
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Oct 26, 2009 11:48:49 PM CDT
Not sure what to think of Ritchie's SHERLOCK HOLMES just yet.
by mr. nice gaius
But if Alan Ford has any chance of portraying Professor Moriarty like Brick Top...then I'm so fucking there.
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I'll check Amazon.
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Oct 26, 2009 11:50:00 PM CDT
Lol 2 talkbacks, 2 awful posters. And ainitcool is a joke
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
Deleted articles, deleted accounts for speaking foul about harrys hollywood friends, and embargos run rampan. Nowdays. Eh. I'll deal with it.
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What happened to the Tron thread?
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has at all to do with Sherlock Holmes? I don't see how this has one single thing in common with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's work. If you're going to be this radically different, why not just start your own mythos? Why do you have to steal the name of someone else's work just to get notice for your film and then dishonor it by having nothing in common with the source material?
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if this is based on any particular Conan Doyle story or are they just using his characters?
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Kind of looks like a ripoff of that show House. They even ripped off the name (Holmes-homes-House) and I don't know who this "Watson" character is but he's clearly a ripoff of House's friend Wilson. Plus House is always solving medical mysteries, and I guess this guy is like a detective or something? Anyway it just seems an awful lot like House. Except this will probably have more explosions so it will be better I guess.
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like D9 did with the Avatar trailer. Visually appealing, intelligent and action packed. But I'm watching both on opening day.
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The end of Sherlock Holmes as thinking people have known him
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How inspired.
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What the Fuck?
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Oct 27, 2009 12:05:17 AM CDT
Where's his Sherlock Holmes hat?
by beyondthunderdome2girls1cupbillcosby
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No shit, Sherlock.
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He missed a thread?
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As the sidekick.
Lets face it, his best roles have always been as the second guy. GATTACA, RIPLEY... -
Don't forget Road to Perdition
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That's the best they've got? I am very excited for this movie, but hopefully a better team put it together than the one that came up with that tag line. Bit too 'Home Alone' for me...
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The character we know from the other movies isn't much like the one in the books.
& as some people may know, both he & Watson were pretty tough in the books. Holmes was also an addict & NEVER wore a Deer stalker hat, as far as I recall.
As for people complaining about his fighting etc, I posted a link on here ages ago, about his fictional baritsu fighting style. It was based on a real martial art of the time called Bartitsu. You can find loads of old pics online. It was real & pretty brutal stuff.
I suppose it's like Bond though. People are so used to the movie version, that a genuine representation of the literary character wouldn't work. Maybe this won't either, but it doesn't seem to be any less like the novels than the others.
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Just the tag line
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Anyone know?
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Oct 27, 2009 12:33:04 AM CDT
This movie is going to blow, wrong tone for Sherlock Holmes.
by ganymede3010
Maybe Downey can breath some life into this snoozer of a franchise.
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...but in the books Holmes was noted to be very fastidious and tidy, whereas in the trailer it's noted that he has poor personal hygiene. And sure, he *could* defend himself, but the trailer made such a big deal about it the movie is obviously an action movie, whereas I wouldn't consider any of the books about "action".
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Anyone else think RDJ looks like he's about to jump into the TARDIS and fight Cybermen?
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My God, did ANYONE involved in this travesty ever actually READ the stories?
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the intellect turned way down. But thats the reality guys, Holmes films are nt exactly blockbusters are they? I dont think a modern audiance would sit through a faithful adaptation of the books. So they have to POTC it up. I think it will probably do fairly well and appeal to a younger audiance, but real Holmes fans (especially of the books) will most likely hate this....
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to anyone if you want when I have time, You can judge for yourselves....
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—did Holmes cure his addiction in the books?
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you get comparing an actual released film playing in theatres to a teaser trailer for a film that, despite the delusional crowd here that think its "overhyped", is almost completely unknown outside the film geek circles (90% of the film going audiance). That Avatar is in 3D alone will ensure that it makes more money than Holmes due to higher ticket prices and the simple fact that 3D films have way longer legs, and way lower second week drop-offs.....
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but im the wrong person to ask as I have only read a few of the books, and I am by no means an expert (I just like the character)....
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have it both ways. If Americans cant play iconic British characters then it s not fair to expect British actors to be allowed to play American icons like Batman. It either goes both ways, or it does nt happen at all...
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Oct 27, 2009 12:56:35 AM CDT
I hear you. I'll guess I'll have to brush up on my Holmes
by blakindigo
Wait, that didn't come out right.Anyway, I'll see this, but "Avatar" comes first.
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except no pirates and no Depp. Maybe kids will like it, I think it looks dumb.
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on Star Trek, and now these same characters are in movies this Christmas. Weird.
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It DOES look a bit action hero-ish. But that's the age we live in. I made a comparison with Bond earlier (neither Bond nor Holmes have been truly portrayed like the literary version). I think another similarity is the pacing etc.
I watched Thunderball the other day & it was SO slow. Watching the underwater fight scenes was like watching paint dry. I'm sure back in the 60's it was exciting, but unfortunately, we live in the age of the short attention span. -
Oct 27, 2009 1:11:46 AM CDT
Lol 2 talkbacks, 2 awful posters. And ainitcool is a joke
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
Deleted articles, deleted accounts for speaking foul about harrys hollywood friends, and embargos run rampan. Nowdays. Eh. I'll deal with it.
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You thought Thunderball was slow? Aren't you the asshole who thinks Conan the Barbarian is a good movie?
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since the Tron one has magically disappeared...
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this mOVIE stinks SUCKAGE bigtime. It's bound to BOMB.
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big time. still got my hopes high though.
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What's not to like? Even the giant snake is cool.
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I remember James Earl Jones, that's about it.
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praddling on like you know what the fuck you are talking about. I can tell that most of you 'purists' have never read any of Doyle's stories. Holmes is supposed to be somewhat of a slob, Watson is constantly describing his/their apartment as being an incredible mess. He's mentioned as being an accomplished boxer and general tough guy many times. He's a huge smart ass. For once Holmes and Watson have (very close to) age appropriate casting. He was never supposed to be addicted to cocaine, he just used it recreationally when he was bored. Plus, the character that Rachel McAdams is playing is American.
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The addiction thing always seemed kind of strange to me, but if he was 'a slob' (by Watson's definition) it seems plausible. I know he was always a bit smarmy and sarcastic—seems like he had a superiority complex (although Watson seemed kind of prudish by today's standards).
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Can you do anything right?
No, I'm not the "asshole" who thinks Conan's a good movie. I'm the asshole who wishes he gave you the broken leg.
Maybe I would like Conan.I can't remember, as I haven't seen it since I was 10 or something, which is why I've NEVER talked about Conan here. NOT EVEN ONCE.
If you're gonna try to insult someone, at least get the person right.
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Fucking gold. 1000 internets to you.
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Really.
Still doesn't change the fact that you got the wrong guy. You're like the retarded version of Tommy Lee Jones' U.S Marshall, chasing me to the waterfall of pure fucking stupidity.
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What do you think of the trailer?
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Even though The Soloist blew.
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Not a fan of Guy Richie.
By the way, I've seen you on here for ages & only just realised your name's blakindigo.
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BIG LOB.
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this isn't Holmes. It isn't homes, but - I'll be damned if it doesn't look fun. I just need to separate it from Holmes in my mind.
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Because it looks like a straight to DVD cover to me. Oh well still seeing it first trailer won me over
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Oct 27, 2009 2:32:51 AM CDT
Is it just me - or do these two look like the biggest fags
by professor_monster
in the world? Like maybe this movie will be bg with the poofs. - That said - Downey Jr should play Freddie Mercury if they ever do his life story.
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Hey look, a picture!!!!
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What a beautific lustre! Pray tell me the name of this exquisite elixir and from which shoppe might I acquire some?
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Can all you people that have already written this movie off do us all a massive favor... Don't bother watching the film. Ever.
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I LOVE IT
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FUCK THIS piece of shit cock ass fuck balls motherfucker.
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same problem with Doyles original stories.In most of the cases,i could figure out the mystery,even from the start of the story.
Sherlock's mysteries are not that complicated or illogical,there are like made for children,simple problems with obvious but complex enough to fascinate kids.
Imho Agatha Cristie was the better one in crafting great mysteries,although some may claim that she cheated a bit,since she threw important information only at the end of the story,which changed everything that we learned during the story.
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omfg now i noticed it.one of the most stupid taglines i have ever seen.
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Got an awful feeling that this is going to be as smelly as the River Thames at the turn of the century.
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in a match of wits.Rocky wins since he starts as White in the chess.Holmes dies from drug overdosing since he cant stand his lose from an ex-boxer.the end.
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Just because he makes his living fluffing heterosexual men with his ridiculous movies, you're willing to accept this metrosexual pssing contest.
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On one hand Holmes has long been overdo for a cinematic overhaul: in Doyle's books, he is a drug addict, a expert hand-to-hand combatant (like Shite mentioned), never wore a deer-stalker hat, and Watson was pretty tough too (good with a gun).
However, on the other hand, this is by Guy Ritchie, and nothing in this so far shows that it will be a DETECTIVE movie and deal with Holmes intelligence. The ad campaign makes it look like they have just tried to make Holmes "Sexy" and "cool" for a new generation - this looks like DRACULA: 2000 so far.
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Sherlock Holmes versus Robin Hood?
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—or is his cocaine use more moderate? I can't really remember because I read Doyle so long ago (and at the time I was into "The Lost World" more than Holmes). I do know that Watson was good with his gun. But, did Holmes ever seem unbalanced with his cocaine (or was it opium) use—did it affect his deductive abilities?
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The trailer is godawful, and the advanced word from fellow AICN geeks who have read the script (like SouthAfricanGuy) doens't inspire any confidence whatsoever. I'm one of those who have been consistently supporting of Guy ritchie, i even liked Revolver, but this Sherlock Holmes movie has all the hints of complete failure. Fucking ass!
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Oct 27, 2009 4:54:11 AM CDT
Lemme guess, RDJ plays Holmes as a witty, loveable jerk
by zombieheathledger
oh wait, that´s how he plays all of his roles.
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Oct 27, 2009 4:55:27 AM CDT
You guys take this shit too seriously
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
Simmer down assholes
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Avatar will own all. Guy Ritchie doesn't do intelligent.
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Your Fugitive gag almost made me choke on my cereal. Brilliant.
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I wonder what genius marketing exec came up with that one?
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How unappealing can one shade of green be?
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And said from what he saw, it wasn't very good.
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I will not see this movie..
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Cant wait to see the film, but i can tell you i wont be going on christmas day. No one will be. Why not just make it christmas eve??? The dumbest release date of all time.
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Most film touted as "coming this Christmas" usually drop a week or so beforehand. Remember that Christmas is on a Friday this year, so it may even be coincidence. It is probably just another selling tactic to increase memorability and awareness.
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because he contributed a lot to the script.but he is so modest,that he doesnt want to take official credit for it.
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Christmas Vacation.
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I can remember impatiently spending those costco regal movie tickets that jackass thoughtless friends impulse give for Christmas. If it's free, it doesn't matter what hunk of garbage I'm watching as long as it isn't totally offensive. Underworld Evolution rings a bell.
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Come on. You know you want to see it.
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I guess WB is confident because the only competition it has is Avatar !
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Not only does Nine come out the same day as Avatar, but Parnassus comes out the same day as this. Intelligent counterprogramming!
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This poster reminds me of that film for some reason...
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http://tinyurl.com/yhk7ql8
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Ho ho ho.
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Only in an action movie version with lots of shoot ups, explosions and fist-fighting. Jessica Fletcher kicking ass Bruce Willis style!
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Who needs detecting when you can resolve the cases by shooting and killing people, kicking ass and exploding shit up?
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You are damn right. If HOLMES FOR THE HOLIDAY is the level of wit we are talking about here, I think I'll pass. Whoever had the idea of unleashing Guy Ritchie onto this should be made to suffer.
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A Marcus Nispel’s Conan? That's the most depressing movie news since i learned of this year summer's movie line up. Because Marcus Nispel has proved with (Nissan) Pathfinder how skilled and good he is with ancient sword fighting adventure. As in, complete ineptitude. Who are this assclowns who hired that hack? And to make a Conan movie, of all things! FUCKING ASS!!!
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I have been an advocate of Guy ritchie, and i say the guy is the most wrong director for a Sherlock Holmes movie short of a Michael Bay or some shit like that. Not because Ritchie is as bad as Bay (nobody is), but because the dude is limited to a certain type. In that type, he's very good. Outside, not so much. Guy Ritchie is wrong for a Holmes movie, and this is me a supporter saying.
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I want to kick the balls of the mentally challenged idiot who made that fucking trailer. Fucking ass!!!
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propaganda i posted yesterday? there is a rumor that it is a viral for ST2.
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The only reason Sherlock Holmes is gonna make some bank is because Downey Jr came back into the scene and is making a killing/// otherwise who gives a shit about Sherlock?
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Will everyone speak in rhyme? Also, I thought he was dead.
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In fact it will come in a distant 3rd Cristmas weekend, below Avatar and Alvin.
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Fuck that tag.
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And, yes!
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You are quite right about Ritchie imho. Did you ever see Swept away a.k.a Vanity project:the movie? No one, and I mean NO-ONE should have to sit through that movie....
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with a brain and any objectivity whatsoever that saw that bad quality video of the new Avatar trailer can see that movie is going to make money. I also see it doing way better than Holmes. But I still think Holmes will do alright, its got RDJ, and it looks entertaining, if not very sherlocky...
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actually. Do you really think its viral stuff for ST2? Is nt it a bit too damn soon for that?
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Someone knocked McAdams above, but in actuality, she is probably one of the best young actresses out there. She successfully elevated her career from "The Hot Chick" and went on to stealing a movie away from Lohan in "Mean Girls". After that she really has been choosing her roles carefully, while always offering something different each time out. She made the B movie "Red Eye" more enjoyable than Foster's higher profile "Flight Plan". And she was the best thing about "The Time Travelers Wife". Portman seems to be the more higher profile, but what has she really done aside from coasting on her geek cred from "Leon: The Professional"? My point is, that they really shouldn't be compared since one is really trying to stretch her skills (while not being an "It Girl" who has high profile projects thrown at her.) While the other seems to get whatever she wants without showing why it is justified.
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a ST2, and it will be very difficult to better it...
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Yeah, I have a Bully at home. He will save the flick.
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Affair.
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This looks fun and good-natured and harmless...but that's the problem. It's aiming low, for ease of going down the throats of the masses. That's not an evil thing to do, but it doesn't interest or inspire me.One of the commenters above had it right--this looks like an A-list Shanghai Knights. Maybe it's got smarts we haven't seen yet, but after having my intelligence insulted with the promotional stuff so far, I don't feel charitable about giving it a chance.I like the cast, but wish everyone involved had been ambitious enough to give us something more than smartly-dressed popcorn.
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Yeah the online population may think it's over-hyped, but regular film goers don't know shit about it. But if Beowulf can open to decent results, Avatar will make some money. Will it make a killing? It's unsure to tell, but I can recall magazines saying Titanic was going to flop because it was pushed back from July to December. Shit, I remember eating popcorn out of a "Titanic" bag that said July on it. And look what happened.
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tv show? I have never seen them, but I hear they are very good. I have only seen a few Holmes films.
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sure with Avatar. I think it will be very interesting to see what happens. Will audiances embrace something with no brand name value? Will audiances like a film where many of the film's main characters are nt human, and specifically a love story between two non-human characters? I honestly dont know what to think, but that new trailer does kick ass, and seems to promise something very epic, action packed, and exotic looking. Could be what audiances are looking for in the current glut of crap (TF2, T4, Gijoe) and the endless remakes, reboots, sequals, prequals and other nostalgia blowjobs from Hollywood....
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for ST2,but maybe for the upcoming ST MMORPG.i think its due to come next year?
that video is too professional to be fan made and it also redirects to this mysterious klingon site:
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just wanted to clarify.
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Well then I have to see this ASAP to see what I think. The name James Cameron on an action movie makes me always game to see whatever it is. But not many people grew up with his movies. My little brother who is 22, just now saw "Aliens" in its entirety on Saturday afternoon. But I think anything in 3D usually sells. Combine that with a lot of action, and the chances go up. Now if it is actually a really good game changing action film, word of mouth will drive it to success. We'll see. The release is soon. So we don't have months of waiting to find out.
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I was originally going to comment about reading a short story where Spock meets Holmes and Watson and a genie and I forget who/what else. After Spock describes the logic he studies exclusively, Holmes remarks, "I like this fellow, Watson."
And because I woke up at about 3:30 am and couldn't get back to sleep although my alarm wasn't going to go off until 6:30 am, and because I read something about Conan in this talkback, I had this conversation in my mind inspired from the first Conan movie: "Why do you drink coffee? You aren't tired." "He is Conan. Cimmerian. He will not drink coffee, so I drink for him." -
No i haven't. I need to check that out.
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imho this is how you should approach material that has already been done to death. Why should Ritchie (or anyone else) take the same standard approach to familiar material? If you can't give it a different slant or spin it in a different direction, what's the point? For those who think that the "definitive Holmes film(s)" have already been created, fine, stick with them and enjoy them as you please. And for fuck's sake, quit acting like a trailer is a microcosm of the movie; as many have tried to explain to the low-IQ fucktards who trash movies based on a 2-minute trailer, the purpose of a trailer is NOT to be a 2-minute synopsis of the entire movie but to place the maximum number of asses in theater seats!
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I would see Avatar twice before going to see this. I think Avatar will clean up at the box office. There's not a lot of competition. Alvin will do fine but it skews to one audience: kids. Sherlock Holmes will do just fine too but not Avatar business. Btw, I read that early tracking is pegging Avatar to do $75M + on opening weekend.
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Oct 27, 2009 9:05:28 AM CDT
Jeremy Brett and Peter Cushing were the best of all time.
by juansanchez
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I might check it out looks ok
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I felt the same way about "Iron Man." I still haven't seen it.
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Oct 27, 2009 9:18:52 AM CDT
I say old chap, that looks to me to be rather foppish
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
what what you say? Well old chum, I surmise from the postergraph as is my wont, that this particular piece of cinematograph will indeed suck the old soldier salute.
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Sorry, don't mean to offend, but I just had to crack that one out.
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Well, that looks gay. Where the hell is the deerstalker cap? The pipe? The dark brooding obsessiveness? I bet the only thing Warner Bros. retained from the actual book about the actual character is the cocaine addiction, because that's so Hollywood. Still, I'm not a Holmes fanatic, so if this movie is fun, I'll go see it. I'm a sucker for Gothic Victorian mood pieces. Ohmigod. Does that make ME gay?
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Method Man has a cameo as Holmes' dealer.
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If one of the folk you don't like had put out a poster with "Holmes for the Holiday" on it you would have screamed blue murder. You give biase a whole new meaning.
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Jeremy Brett's corpse rises from the grave simply to express its disgust and fart dust on this movie.
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Dave Mckean looks like he did it
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and The Case of the Mysterious Hair Product. At least Jude Law looks time period appropriate.
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Oct 27, 2009 10:19:24 AM CDT
maybe Will Farrel will make the better Sherlock Holmes Movie
by beyondthunderdome2girls1cupbillcosby
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Oct 27, 2009 10:25:14 AM CDT
BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
wow.
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If there was ever proof that talkbackers just bitch for the sake of bitching it's right here. Clearly only 1 or 2 people in this thing have ever read a holmes book. No one can agree if Holmes could fight in the books, if he was tidy or messy and whether he was an addict. No one cares about Sherlock Holmes, no one has for a while. You're getting irate...well pretending to get irate over a product you care little about. I have no idea if I'll like this film but i'll give it a go the trailer looks all right. I certainly wouldn't watch it if it was the same boring crap as previous screen versions of holmes have been. How many of you people have ever watched a Sherlock Holmes movie? I can't even name one.
You just can't have a decent discussion on here. You just bitch so you can bitch.
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people are getting tired of Downey Jnr and his big comeback - they just want him to fuck up on drugs and climb into black peoples houses again
and people are REAL tired of Law and all his impreginating girls on the sidewalk, having sex with nannies and remaking Michael Caine movies
Guy Ritchie - never had a hit...generally disliked for being a mockney and for marrying Madonna (seriously dude what the fuck!? why would you do dat?)
it looks BO-RING...seriously who the fuck is bothered about Sherlock Holmes and Victorian England in this day and age?? YAWN
its trying to turn Holmes into an action film - like Bond or Indy....since when was Holmes ever an Action hero??
i predict a low opening - about 20m tops..it will struggle to break 100m in the US...Overseas it'll do so so - about 60-70m - overall estimate = 150m TOPS....i recently saw an estimate in a top movie magazine which predicated 500m ww!!...LMFAO!
sequel - no chance...
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That was an invention of previous movies that were unfaithful-to-the-books. So you can get over that now.
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But the one thing that always bothers me on posters like these is the billing. I know there are rules to govern where the names go in relation to each other, and this happens on DVD covers too, but it sucks when the wrong names hover over each person. So.... Sherlock Holmes is played by Rachel McAdams, and the lead female character is played by Robert Downey Jr.?
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people will have had their movie fix at Xmas with 2012 and Avatar...no one will bother with Sherbit the Holmey
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Remember JJ & Co changed the look of the aliens so they aren’t just people with crap on their foreheads. Also the ships are old school DR6 crusers. You know he’ll add all kinds of seemingly useless spikes and crap all over the ship to make it look… odd, useless and spiky…
This Holmes should make money. RDJ is entertaining in pretty much everything he does and the regular moviegoers will go see it.
Avatar will make money on its first weekend but if it isn’t nearly as good as some of the Cameron ballwashers here pray it is it will drop fast. Not everyone wants to pay extra money to see a CGI crapfest in 3D. It’ll end up living or dying on word of mouth. It may or may not make all its money back until its release on bluray…
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If you cannot seperate the negativists from the people with legit complains and suspicion, then the failure is yours, not ours.
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I'll see this AND Heath's last fliq. Gives me reason not to be home with "family."
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I bet the end titles will feature a rap or a corporate "hard" rock song.
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too true too true.
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I've got tons of MJ fucking kids material.
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Hi compadre, how are you? No, i haven't seen Swep Away, and i intend to keep it that way, if you know what i mean. And truly, it was your review and opinion on Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes script that was the winter of any small hope i had for the movie. And the dude above who said that RDJ looks terribly ill for the time period and he looks like he's on a hair conditioner advert then as a victorian character is completly right. Holmes as a raggedly dressed dude? Instead of the fastitious dandy he was in the books? Nonsense! At least Jude Law looks period correct, thank goodness for small mercies. How funny it is that they are getting Watson so right but Holmes so wrong!But you know what irritate me the most? Is titleing this movie as SHERLOCK HOLMES. As if they are saying this is the definitive Sherlock Holmes movie. I have the same problem with the latest Star Trek (In Name Only) movie. It's the gall of the whole thing. The arrogance! The outrageousness! What cheek! Fucking ass!!
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yes I don't think this film will be half as good as the first Pirates was. I'm thinking this will be on the same level as Shanghai Knights. Hell, I thought the trailer was for Shanghai Knights 2.
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Oct 27, 2009 11:16:03 AM CDT
AzulTool...Yeah man me too, the dams about to burst
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
kindsa like the bursting of an off-white peadophile's cock up the ass of some unfortunate kid whose parents need money.
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I say you are too optimistic about this one.
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But for a period victorian crime thriller in which the main character detects though sheer intelligence, deduction and observation skills?? I don't think so!
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Jeremy Brett's Sherlock holmes Tv show from Granada TV is just unbelievable good. Specially the first and second seasons and the TV movie The Sign Of Four. Once you see Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes you will not accept any substitutes. Not even such a talented fellow as RDJ. In fact, Jeremy Brett is so good he completly surpassed Peter Cushing and Christopher Plummer, and Cushing and Plummer were really very good Holmes. Truly, in my mind and many others, there is only one real true Sherlock Holmes and that's Jeremy Brett. I'm not over-hyping.
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I think it was some dog food based on Milkbone sounding like Rathbone. It wasn't very inspired, and yet seems like 100 times the better idea than this movie.
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Watson wasn't 'good' with a gun. Watson owned a gun. Having fought in the war, he could be trusted to keep his nerve and pull the trigger if they had to. There were a couple of 'action' scenes in Doyle's version but they are scuffles in the dark and generally quick fights where the fiend is captured or escapes as required. They are not something that are centerpieces. Incidentals. Holmes' addiction is neither defining nor debilitating. Even when, for a case, he goes undercover into the Opium dens, he keeps his head. The problem with this reimagining is that Holmes is the iconic cerebral hero. By turning him into Batman he it becomes as ridiculous as 'The World's Greatest Detective' comes across in the movies where he does no detecting but instead just punches cartoon evil looking people in the face. To suggest that Holmes is a highly trained martial artists as well as a great mind and courageous and a ladies man, is to make him a super hero. Super Heroes aren't heroes. Holmes is 'cool' because he does one thing very well and that one thing is generally 'uncool': observing.
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Why does anyone think there's no detecting going on. He's got a whole fannypack of detection tools. An explosion in the trailer may well be the only one in the entire movie -- you know trailers. As for action in the books, "The Sign of Four" climaxes with a boat chase and gunfight. And yes, AsimovLives, I do like Jeremy Brett in the movie (well, except that it was SO unfaithful to the book by leaving out the cocaine use)
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Outstanding in the role. I really need to get a hold of those DVDs.
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Not very good quality of course.
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Oct 27, 2009 12:11:35 PM CDT
Lets not forget Nicol Williamson in The Seven Percent Solution
by skimn
and Robert Duvall(?) as Watson. Just as Albert Finney seemed to be the perfect Hercule Poirot for the '70s, Williamson embodied the Holmes of the seventies, a nice mixture of theatrical and cinematic.
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I have nothing against the concept of a tough-ass, action-packed Holmes movie. However, RDJ simply doesn't do it for me, and getting the tone right for a Holmes mystery that isn't based on a Conan Doyle story is a near-impossible task.
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Nice one..
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it's Downey, who seems to be playing the role with too much of a twinkle and a wink. But I guess that's the price we pay for a Christmas Blockbuster "fun" Holmes movie.
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watch Marc Strong blow everyone else off the screen...
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Oct 27, 2009 12:27:25 PM CDT
May this trash be half as successful as "King Arthur"
by jackpumpkinhead
Or, better yet, "Speed Racer".
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The TV show didn't left the cocaine use. It shows at least twice Holmes after shooting, unwrapping the rubber band from his amr. At least once watson berates holmes on his use of cocaine. While it is never specifically mentione,d there's enough onscreen info to sujest, without mistake, that holmes injects himself witn the stuff in his more idle moments inbetween cases. In fact, the Granada TvVshow with Jeremy Brett is almost in the nose with Holmes' use of cocaine.
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I saw it as a kid, but I barely remember it. Has anyone seen it recently? Is it any good?
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to play the role of the young Holmes, but why did Spielberg and Levinson feel that it was time for a Temple Of Doom redux? The stop motion and CGI stained glass statue still hold up nicely though. And the score and production design is lovely.
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This sucks ass. http://sickpicks.blogspot.com/
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it was a complete failure, in all things that truly matters: failure as a movie. King Arthur might as well been a movie about a bunch of Hollywood hacks pissing on the Arthurian myth and have the cheek to call it "fun".
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Young Sherlock Holmes was a decent adventure, though it too tried to much to turn a sherlockian mystery into an adventure movie. As a Sherlock Holmes movie is a failure, but as a juvenille asdventure movie for kids is a sucess. Well, that's how i remember it, anyway. Haven't seen it in more then 20 years.
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Is the Only Holmes
This looks like Bi Euro Nightclub Holmes -
And they made a movie. And why the fuck not? They already fucked up Terminator. They fucked up Star Trek. They fucked up King Arthur. They fucked up Transformers. They have systematically fucked up beloved classics with complete gay abandon. Why the fuck not fuck up Sherlock Holmes too? Can't wait to see what other beloved classic they will fuck up next, in their eagerness to turn everything into a shallow dumb action movie.
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Or Bi American pretending to pass as european and failing miserably.
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Sweetie, you spend too much time at the Ren Faires... you're off by a couple hundred years ;)
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I can already see it in a very near future. and they will turn it into an action movie filled to the grills with CGI depicting the whale do stuff that is compeltly impossible in any physical reality. They will fuck up Moby Dick into a shallow ass action movie. Sooner or later. A pest on this fucker's asses! Fucking asses!!
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Because that's what happened in Jaws. And Bay has to outdo Spielberg, even if it doesn't make any fucking sense in the story.
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I'm too lazy to look it up, but there's a reboot in the works, pretty much exactly as you describe, and I think the quote was, "This isn't your grandfather's Moby Dick."
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he'd have refused to go near the fucker and the movie would've sucked.
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I remember wondering how he would be as The Shadow. Not that I've heard anything about him being cast for the role nor indeed do I think he would be approached for it in an upcoming Shadow movie.
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Hm. I'll have to rewatch then. I know the book opens with him shooting up -- we get the "seven percent solution" line -- but the movie doesn't. At least not the cut I saw.
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Brett Ratner perhaps?
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That's the Britt one I'm referring to. I haven't seen others.
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id wanna see that actually
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He now looks like Dustin Hoffman.
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fetishistic shots of the military hunting the whale primitive sonar tech while the action star jumps onto the sharks back and shoves the explosive dart into the beasts heart. He'd escape to rescue the sinking boat and the half-naked swimsuit model—just as the whale explodes in glorious slow motion…
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But lost to both Lazenby and Moore.
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Everything I have seen that he has done is shit, and the man himself is the most obnoxious tool on the planet.
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All the while the great white whale spraying foam and surf from its blowhole in glorious slow motion, soaking the action star in glistening mist..cuz Bay fetishises the male lead as much as the nubile female costar.
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Poster reminds me of the Will Smith vehicle.
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we've probably seen more of Will Smith's chest in "Bad Boys 2" than Jada has.
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The answer to that question might explain the smile on Downey's face.
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that is all
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One of my favorite flicks.
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What a photoshopped eyesore.
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Holmes really wasn't an addict - he used the "Seven-Percent Solution" of cocaine to ease the boredom of not being on a case (which makes no sense, because cocaine is a stimulant - you'd think he would use opium). But they never showed any negative effects - people rightly came up with the conclusion that Holmes would have gotten addicted over the years. Now it is kind of stereotypical - Holmes is a junkie.
And Watson was formerly in the army, so he was trained to use a pistol. He wasn't as good as Marksman as Holmes (I think in "Sign of the Four" Watson list Holmes as an excellent Marksman) but still could be trusted with a pistol. -
I can see it now...the titles..."Dick"
(scene) Ahab leaps from the deck of the Pequod (Now an Oceanic Research Vessel) onto the back of Moby Dick, his prosthetic leg now replaced by a 20MM grenade launcher he fashioned from parts he found in the debris field of the LCS-2 U.S.S. Independance, after it was destroyed by Moby Dick, a Whale genetically altered by a well financed Al-Qaeda bio terrorist cell (Cue slow motion close up of AP rounds sinking into the Whales skin, the Blubber glistens in the moonlight, small streams of blood shoot from the whales wounds...) (scene) Ahabs first mate mate and girlfriend Starbuck, (played by Katy Perry in her first acting role) screams, her white wife beat soaked through with sweat and water sprayed from the battle with Moby Dick, as Ahab scrambles along the back of the engraged whale(Close up of Ahab, played by Marky Mark)Grabing the great whale by the blow hole..Ahab takes a grenade from the bandolier hanging around his chest..pulls the pin with his teeth and say's..."For hates sake with my last breath I spit at thee?...I don't think so..I got your last breath right here blubber boy" (avoid the pun "Blubber Fucker" to ensure PG-13 rating)(cue 7.5 M cgi scene) The light shines off the grenade as it drops down the whales huge nostril...the motion so slow we can see the water droping along with it...the camera follows the grenade into Moby Dick...the black of the breathing hole turns to red as it is sucked into Moby's churning lungs...it explodes! (Cut to SUPER SLOW MOTION of Ahab throwing himself from the whale as a fountain of blood erupts from the blowhole, follwed soon after by a stream of fire shooting 100ft into the night sky)(CGI) We see the whale lurch...expanding, while at the same time leaping from the water and grabbing with its mouth a USN F/A-18D that was strafing it...and explode. (Explosion must be photorealistic, and approximately the size of a 15kt nuclear blast).(scene) We see Ahab being hoisted from the sea...Starbuck stroking his hair...a team of U.S.N. Marines repels onto the deck...handing Ahab a phone..it is the president...(Cue we can't thank you enough/you are a real patriot,you saved the planet speach).Cue Fallout BOy ending sound track -
Oct 27, 2009 3:46:23 PM CDT
Let's play "How many names can Harry drop in a paragraph"
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
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And to all the people saying "a faithful adaptation wouldn't work" I say check out the Jeremy Brett TV series. Pretty much as close as you can get to the stories, and a huge hit (well, for PBS anyway).
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tx man for this new story with bay.excellent as always.i thought u had decided to stop writing those satirical stories.
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Funny how they're both a bunch of fucking wannabes though. They were made for each other. Madonna tries her best to be British. And Ritchie tries his best to be Cockney. Incredible. I'm surprised it didn't last.
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Oct 27, 2009 4:11:39 PM CDT
rofl at conspiracy's post, he got one thing wrong though...
by thewaqman
End Credits song will be sung by Linkin Park.
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AzulTool: I remember it. I think it may actually be somewhere in the DVD collection… but I’m not sure.
I could have sworn that he used heroin not cocaine… I may well be very wrong… that happens a lot…
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is his drug
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coke at times, and he smoked opium as well I believe.
From the get go, I haven't liked the look and feel of this movie. I too am sick of American actors playing English characters, and as (relatively) talented as ol Junior is, he is mis-cast here. Jude Law could make a good Watson, and at the very least is actually English. To me, Guy Ritchie is a sometimes-enjoyable one-trick-pony, and this seems way out of his depth. We shall see
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just a rough outline of what you could expect from "Moby Bay".And no..I haven't bored of writing...just have not been any stories linked to the topic at hand...we'll there was that one Star Wars story late last week..I wrote a continuation on that TB...a short one.TheWaqman..I'd have agreed if Moby Bay was released this year...but if that project was 3 years off..Fallout Boy would be the go to band...Bay is always about 3 years behind the times musically.
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Robert Downy Jr looks like Mr. Hyde.
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tagline should be - "whos the giver and whos the reciever?"
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Oct 27, 2009 5:07:40 PM CDT
Id rather see A V A T A R again and have my eyeballs fucked (aga
by mr sulu
than go to see this
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oooh thats racist isnt it - hold on, whos that at the door?? oh shit its the cops - im going to jail now...
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Oct 27, 2009 5:16:17 PM CDT
why bother with Shylock, when Camerons MAGNUM OPUS is still out?
by mr sulu
a week later?? - i mean WHO THE SHITEING FUCK will bother going to see Holmes when theres the option of having eyeballs well and truly F U C K E D once again by Camerons big dick of a movie?
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Why use a modern American phrase for a movie based in Victorian England? I hope whoever picked that one is hanging their head in shame. Hope the actual movie is better.
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Thunderball was not the director Terence Young's intentions, he was fed up with directing it because of all the gadgets and machinery that was increasing so he walked off, the bloated footaged was handed over to the editor to salvage something which turned into a gargantuan snoozefest void of any pacing. It's not a good comparison to make of early Bonds. All the others have excellent pacing that still stands up to this day.
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...then give it a cheeky smile as it steps over Shylocks crying broken body of a movie....
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yep dats who its gonna go down folks...Law will be the new Chris O Donell after this shitfest...
Jnr will still have Iron Man 2 though....plus the odd silly movie...
Ritche - never works again - except on SWEPT AWAY 2 - SWEPT HARDER starring Britany Spears -
fuck me...FUCK ME!!
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Talk about a one note director - and it was never a particularly good 'note' anyway. He's an upper crust toff pretending to be a cockney 'geezer' - a mockney. Anyway, I predict he'll start making better films now that Madonna's whip hand has been lifted, but his highest level was still absolute crap. So, I expect nothing from Sherlock Homes.Look at that shitty trailer - Holmes fights in a bathhouse and its exactly the same as Brad Pitt's boxing match in Snatch, the same bag of tricks - silly stylized slo-mo fight scenes, MTV crap. Want to bet that there'll be some pumping techno tunes over the action scenes in this one? - anachronisms, but who cares when it's all about 'sexing up' classic characters. I really don't like this style of trying to make period stuff, or classic stories and characters hip and modern. It dates quickly, and nullifies what was appealing in the first place. Remember that awful Plunkett and Maclane movie by Ridley Scott's son? Nope, neither do I. But this seems like the same deal. Ditto that Romeo and Juliet movie by Baz Lurhmann. A lot of people seemed to like that, but I hated it. Anyway, I conclude this rant by smiting Ritchie's name. A pox on him and his poseur ilk!
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It's all a bit subjective, of course--different performances speak to different people. But to me, Brett was unbelievably good in the role--smart, tough, subtle, whimsical, dark, and frail all in the right measure. Add to that a superb supporting cast with great chemistry, wonderful guest actors in every episode, lovely location filming, and terrific attention to detail in painting the world of the time, and it adds up to one of the best dramatic series I've ever seen.I'd recommend starting at the start of the series and going chronologically. Two actors played Watson, each brilliant in their own ways and appropriate for the overall tone and amount of action in the stories.I'm not a Holmes purist, but what bothers me about the way this new film looks is that it seems to have taken its high-quality talent and high-quality look and wrapped it around a dumb center. I hope I'm wrong, but when I think of how smart the old Jeremy Brett shows were, it seems inexcusable to be so much less ambitious today. This same new cast could have told a brilliant story without the silliness. But I guess it wouldn't fill as many seats on opening day.
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that fucker has a set of balls. That son of a bitch had the intestinal fortitude to mount Madonna...and not, somewhat sexy, cum swallowing, ass to mouth, bisexual, Like a Virgin Madonna either...Oh No...Guy laid the pipe to a faded starlet in her late 40's, one whom thinks she is a Jewish Witch and looks like a nasty, trampled, veiny, dried up old piece of beef jerky taken from the no longer vaccum sealed container sitting on the counter of a 7-11 in North Hollywood. THATS the Madonna Guy rode to riches. And riches he did get...he fucked that old horse for a few years and got a nice payday when she finally bucked him off.For that alone...Guy has my respect; he was the worlds smartest kept boy.Oh..and Snatch was a pretty good movie IMO.
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the situation isn't any better through the other viewpoint. Brian Cox, awesome as he is, couldn't keep a Southern accent in X2, Ewan McGregor in The Island, Orlando Bloom in Elizabethtown, Sam Worthington in T4, many other failed tries I can't think of at the moment. Props to some good American accents, though: Hugh Laurie, Guy Pearce and Russell Crowe in L.A. Confidential, Cate Blanchett in The Gift (the ONLY overseas actor to nail a Southern accent).
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It's just some poor designer hating himself as he craps out some godawful, slapped-together Photoshop montage shit concocted in the coke-addled heads of bottom feeding marketing execs. THis poster even sucks on a basic, technical level. It looks like the "designer" was a first year Commercial Art student at fuckin' Kaiser College for crying out loud. The Photoshop work is really terrible. Also, I never thought even Hollywood could make a venerable old character like Sherlock Holmes look so goddamn gay!
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Yeah but then Blanchett was in Indy 4 with her atrocious and ridiculous Natasha Badanov Russian accent!
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...Madonna looks pretty good in her latest video, though. Of course she's in a really short skirt and a woman's stems are the last thing to go. Also the camera has a major league gauze filter on it. Okay, cement filter would probably be a more apt description.
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Only overseas actor to nail a Southern accent? What about Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain? I'm betting Danial Day Lewis, Russel Crowe, and Christian Bale would or have done a good job as well...
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Everyone LOVED that thing when it came out. By the time Gwynneth was accepting her (WTF???) Oscar people were like, "Th' FUCK were we thinking?!!?" Now, whenever it's on basic cable, it creates a mass spasm of channel flicking so gargantuan it kills the batteries in remotes the world over.
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...gettin jiggy wit my Sherlock ways! Yep. 2010's Wild Wild West.
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Google Isaac's kid and you'll get a not so nice surprise. Egads.
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You know it.
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If not shut DEFUCK up about it sucking.
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I hate the blue tinting (that's getting so old), but worst for me are the stupid expressions on the two leads' faces. RDJ's smirk looks like some kind of MySpace self-portrait expression, and Law's sort of smug, looking-down-nose, devil-may-care is about the most wrong expression imaginable for Watson.They seem to do better in motion, if the trailers indicate anything, but this poster is just stupid.
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As soon as men break up with her, they start to suck less and less. See Guy Ritchie, A-roid. Revolver was ass, but Rocknrolla was a step back in the right direction for Ritchie. Hopefully, this rocks . . .
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Holmes has ass-less pants on and notice how we don't see what Watson's left hand is doing?
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and it sucks.
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Oct 27, 2009 9:58:00 PM CDT
The Fall of the Republic The Presidency of Barack H. Obama
by spazatronik2000
http://tinyurl.com/yl8wc8z
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http://www.latinoreview.com/news/and-the-villian-for-spider-man-4-is-8374
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sweet!!
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WRONG TALKBACK.
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DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!!
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WHERE THE FUCK DID OU SEE THAT!?????????????????????????????? HOLY ASS DOORKNOB
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Ooh i would totally invade that.
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Oct 28, 2009 3:19:03 AM CDT
Sal_Bando, i'd love to see you go to Porto with that attitude
by asimovlives
The royal beating you would receive would be worth the price of admission. Fucking ass!
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"I'm too lazy to look it up, but there's a reboot in the works, pretty much exactly as you describe, and I think the quote was, "This isn't your grandfather's Moby Dick.""I knew it! I knew it! It had to happen, didn't it? They have to fuck up my favorite american book, haven't they? Fucking asses!
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I have nothing else to say on the subject
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And that was quite a mouthful! Better then Avatar? You really are trying to pick a fight in here, aren't you? Good way to make yourself noticed in here, anyway.
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both and I recognize most of what I have seen in the trailers and I feel I can predict with utmost confidence that Avatar will wipe the floor with this Holmes movie. Avatar is epic, exotic and it its very ambitious. Plus it has insane action set pieces, seriously, people dont realize how awsome they could be. The Holmes script on the other hand is very mediocre. Plus Guy Ritchie vs Cameron? Not much of a competition imho....
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crime mysteries (though theres not much of one in the script) instead of epic sci-fi action films...well then I think that it would stand to reason you would prefer Holmes....
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I thought the complaint here was that Holmes has too much action. And that it looked like PotC (exotic, epic). Now I'm confused.
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aining that Holmes is not an action character, but one that uses his intellect. People are thus worried that this film is not much like the books or that its dumbed down. Having read the script I can tell you that the story is very simplistic, and there is much more of a focus on action (nothing wrong with lots of action, but why lose the intelligent stories or mysteries?). Personally I think that Holmes will do just fine at the b.o, but I think that serious fans of Holmes may really hate this film for sexing it up so to speak at the expense of the hallmarks of Sherlock Holmes stories. Avatar is not based on any pre-existing property (thus your confusion is understandable given the rarity of that) and thus has no pre-established hallmarks (unlike a character based on a series of books going back more than 100 years). But there are plenty of cool/compelling ideas/concepts in the old Avatar scriptment too. The Holmes script has a few cool ideas and concepts too, but my issue is with the very obvious mystery (which you will solve about 30 min into the movie I would say), the cartoonish villainvillain and his very cliched plan....
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and (heres a radical thought) keep the intelligence of the stories, while mixing the action with the intellect of Holmes?
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The very fact they are trying to put action in a sherlock holmes movie is already a poof of the movie's failure. It means this idiots who are making this movie could nt think up of a truly mystery for a very smart character tosolve. It means this assclowns could not come up with a script which could dazzle us and amaze us with the show of a character who progresses through the story through his imense intellect. It means this retards could not come up with a story which the truly maamzing and awe sinpiring thing in the story of the audiences being caught with Holem's solution to seemly impossible obstacles thanks to a high degree of intelligence.If this trailer is any indication of the script and movie, then in this "version", Holmes will progress through the mystery and reach the final solution because he can brawl and shoot. And to that i say: Fucking ass!!
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Whenever i now see the tagline "This is not your daddy's [insert movie name]", i cna now tell for absolute certainy the movie will be a completly dumbed down idiotic bullshit version of a beloved and respected classic made by a talentless hack or a misguided fool who thinks outside his station.
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Guess what, daddy knew best!!
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wouldn't it be "This is not your great-granddaddy's Sherlock Holmes"?
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agree with your points. I wish that they had done that while giving it a sense of action/adventure. I really believe there is no reason why you cant have both...Anyway, have you seen the second Avatar trailer Asimov?
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If my memory serves me correctly, in one story he was undercover in an opium den. He was very clear with Watson that he had NOT, in fact, added opium to his long list of vices.
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You can have a Sherlock holkmes adventure, and they already did one. It's called The Sign Of Four, and it's a stand alone movie for the Granada TV show starring Jeremy Brett. It's thrilling, smart and entertaining. Three things i doubt i will get from the the new Sherlock Holmes In Name Only movie.
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Sherlock Holmes In Name Only. AICN, of course, will love it. They love the -INO movies. I could even make bets on which reviewers will love and hate the SHINO. I bet the Massawyrm guy will love it.
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is now online. with freeman and damon. there is even a cameo by the new president Jacob zuma. mandela was a failure as president. and as for zuma asked once what he did when he found out that a woman he slpt with had HIV. zuma said he took a shower. fucker.
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However, given the excelency of the Granada TV Sherlock Holmes show, which was first aired in the late 80s, you cna truly say that SHINO is not your daddy's sherlock holmes because the daddies of the punk ass ignoramus to whom the new movie tries to appeal were watching a real true depiction of the famous detective stories in the best ever adaptation ever made in any media up to then, and still to this day. So, the daddies' Sherlock Holmes is the Granada Tv series with Jeremy Brett. And that show WAS THE SHOW. It was the real deal. The "not the daddy's" SHINO bullshit is the new movie. Again, it's true, SHINO is not your daddy's Sherlock Holmes, and it's the worst for that.
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I remember seeing an article that came out prior to the release of Fellowship of the Ring making that same claim. Personally, I would have been up for seeing rotund, "Flipper"less hobbits myself. That may just be the lamest line in an attempt to drum up an audience ever
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Let me just say that, contrary to many, i don't think of The Return Of The King that highly as most do here. But i really liked the first two movies. But the 3rd disapointed me with the undisciplined excesses that Peter Jackson fell into, and it was precursor of things to come for the even more flawed King Kong, an overrated movie if ever there was one.
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The return of the King iherited some of its flaws from the books. In my opionion the sory reached a bit of peak at Helms Deep and then takes a long leisurely stroll to its overlong denouement. Jackson probably suffered from being too loyal to the books. Agree on King Kong, pointless and watered down remake.
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