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Remake rumor of the week! DiCaprio and Maguire taking the Welles and Cotten roles in a redo of THE THIRD MAN?

Published at: Oct. 26, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST by quint

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. This weekend the handsome bearded bear who calls himself Devin Faraci ran quite a juicy rumor over at CHUD regarding a remake of Carol Reed's brilliant noir THE THIRD MAN starring Joseph Cotten, Trevor Howard and Orson Welles. CHUD's scooper claims that Leonardo DiCaprio and Tobey Maguire will topline the movie, which is being written by EASTERN PROMISES scribe Steven Knight, but there's no info on who they would play. The Cotten role, that of a clean as a whistle man arriving in Vienna to take a job from his shadowy friend, Harry Lime (played by Orson Welles) only to find out upon his arrival that Lime is dead, is the bigger part, but the Welles role is the showy one. If I were a betting man (and I am) if this rumor pans out and we do see this announced officially we're going to be seeing DiCaprio in the Lime role. Maguire seems much more suited for the Cotten part. The Third Man is one of the all-time great flicks. I even own a 16mm print of this film I love it so much. The photography is some of the best black and white film ever shot and projected onto a movie screen, especially the sewer sequences. Click here to read the whole article over at CHUD! I'm not fond of the idea of remaking it, but if they have the right director I'll withhold any knee-jerking. -Quint quint@aintitcool.com Follow Me On Twitter



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  • Oct. 25, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Worst.idea.ever.

    by CatVutt

    Seriously, there's no point. The Original is a Masterpiece. It's lose-lose.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I'm not knee-jerk against remakes.

    by CatVutt

    Really. I mean, there's probably THOUSANDS of flawed films that could be remade with interesting results. But what exactly do you fucking improve about The Third Man? Anyone? Bueller? It's ridiculously fun with atmosphere as memorable as anything in film. As idiotic ideas go, this is up there with the stupid-ass shot-for-shot Psycho remake.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Sounds horrible

    by carlanga

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    That's It, That's It!!

    by Redbox Vacation

    Okay DiCaprio and Maguire, you are officially on the very top of my shit list! Hollywood, you can remake many things, but if you remake this I will be putting my boot up your collective asses until you taste my leather! You don't mess with The Third Man! You don't mess with Holly Martin! And no one messes with Harry Lime! Leo! Consider your ass booted! Fuck you all! You have no taste, authority, right or intelligence. Toby... Fuck off! Redbox is getting Jay an Silent Bob and taking a trip west! Cheers!

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Eat your young... or in this case, your old...

    by SK229

    That's what Hollywood is doing and IT'S FUCKING SICKENING! FUCK THIS SHIT!

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    I would hate them for that

    by CherryValance

    Seriously. Who the FUCK do they think they are? There are remakes and then there is outrageous narcissism. You'd like to tell them to go fuck themselves, but they probably already are. But it's not fucking. It's "making love" to themselves because they're the most amazing people they've ever met. Good grief.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    With Jude Law in Tevor Howard's role?

    by Drath

    Or maybe Gary Oldman, just to avoid a cast that's too young. Good luck with this, but the original is the best.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Too young

    by libertyboom

    These blokes look too young to play the part. They're too pretty-boy. Get some real men! Better yet, don't even touch this. The original is perfect and shouldn't be touched.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    The Third Man is a classic, but I can see it being remade

    by BadMrWonka

    I'm not a big apologist for DiCaprio, and I think Maguire's biggest show of range was when he played Screeh on SNL, but in spirit, I think the film could be remade successfully. <p>but weren't these guys older? I seem to remember feeling like both men were into their 40's. I would buy a remake more with like Viggo Mortensen and Edward Norton or something. you need a little maturity that neither of the actors mentioned in the article have yet. Quint, what do you think? or should we just say "fuck it" and get Robert Patterson in it from Twilight?

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    at least it's DiCaprio and Maguire

    by Meadowe

    I saw DiCaprio hanging with high school musical guy @ a laker game. Can't wait for that guy's 15 to go away.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Third Man-

    by sonnyfern

    Orson Welles gives one of my favorite performances EVER in that movie.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    FUCK this

    by GiveMeAnFinBreak

    Might as well remake Citizen Kane while they're at it ... buncha fuckin' goons.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    I'm not a knee jerk either...

    by HCEarwicker

    But I couldn't bring myself to see the Trouble with Charlie or the new Manchurian Candidate, despite all reports that they're pretty good movies...

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Yeah heard about this a fucking week ago....

    by Maverick1

    on joblo.com. Get with it AintitcoolOLDnews. http://sickpicks.blogspot.com/

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    IS NOTHING SACRED?!?

    by RaveX

    fuck you hollywood. after this is done, only casablanca and citizen kane remain...

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    WHY??????????????????????????????????

    by CockyPop

    why would DiCaprio even want to take this role? He's good enough to have an original "great" role all to himself. And bad enough to never be half the talent Welles was.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Great idea!!!!

    by Ricky Retardo

    They could call it, The Turd Man.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    DO NOT WANT.

    by Ribbons

    Maguire was already in a "remake" of The Third Man. And it was called The Good German. And it had "the right director," and a better cast. And it sucked. The end. <br> <br> The Third Man was a product of its time; postwar paranoia, a no-show Orson Welles, creative battles between David Selznick and Carol Reed, and a zither all combined to make a perfect movie. You can't even recreate the happy accidents, let alone the atmosphere that made The Third Man special. And any attempt to try will result in something completely uninvolving (think Gus Van Sant's Psycho).

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Also, Quint...

    by Ribbons

    ...you're not knee-jerk-against remakes? Since when? Weren't you the guy complaining about "Monster Squad" being remade last week?

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Needs a bigger actor

    by Adelai Niska

    nothing against Leo, but a role like that needs to be BIG actor. A DeNiro or Nicholson or Shakespearean actor or even a Denzel. Leo's never been about the BIG roles.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    ...

    by MediaNerd

    ...huh? I'm not normally one to comment on remakes. I always have the source after all, but The Third Man...why?<br><br>Things that made this movie include: a slow burn convulted plot, Orson playing with his 'Image', a strong, unique, yet subtle score, and amazing black&white cinematography. None of these things play to modern updates...<br><br>Pinky & the Brain did have an excellent spoof however...Made even stronger since Brain=Orson...

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    The REAL Reason this Doesn't Make Sense

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    is EVERYBODY knows that Harry Lime is The Third Man, and still alive. Even people who haven't seen the movie. Just like everybody knows Rosebud was a sled whether they've seen Citizen Kane or not.Or that Norman Bates isn't a mild mannered young man etc etc. <br /><br />When I watched The Third Man I knew Orson Welles was playing Harry Lime. So when they said Harry Lime was dead I knew he wasn't. So the fun of the movie is knowing something Joseph Cotten doesn't know and waiting for Orson to show up. So why exactly would you remake a film that everybody knows the story to going in, and that hinges around the real life offscreen friendship of the two actors involved?<br /><br /> I know Leo and Toby are friends offscreen but so what? It doesn't work with them.It wouldn't work with Clooney and Pitt either. Who wants to see Leo Dicaprio in a doorway with a cat on his shoe? Is he gonna give the Cuckoo Clock speech that Welles wrote for himself? Are the political wranglings of postwar Vienna going to make any sense to the Transformers audience? Who are they making this movie for? People who love the original will loathe the idea of a remake, and people who haven't seen the original will already know in advance the general plot, which today's Hollywood for Dummies would give away in the trailer even if they don't already know it. No suspense. No tension. Just a convoluted plot and an opportunity for supporting actors to goof around with the secondary characters. And for DiCaprio and Maquire to look even more leightweight taking on the mantle of Welles and Cotten. It's Pointless on any level.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Remaking The Third Man

    by biglou114

    is like remaking Casablanca. It would be impossible better than the original.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Is there a law against new ideas?

    by kabong

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Does this mean they fuck at the end?

    by reflecto

    "Bromance" my ass. Besides, Leo's almost as butch as Alida Valli.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    FUCK. NO.

    by Clavius

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST

    The original holds up so well..

    by shaneo632

    Hollywood is such bullshit.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Oh, for fuck's sake!

    by Horace Cox

    Just kill yourself already Hollywood. This is a disaster waiting to happen if true. Why would any actor & director willingly invite the inevitable unfavorable comparisons to an all-time classic? A potential career killer for anyone dumb enough to think they can top perfection.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    It's my favorite movie, #1 on my list

    by Redbox Vacation

    And it will be there long after whatever abortion they produce. Just like the Manchurian Candidate. More than anything, the judgment that these two dildos have shown in thinking they can remake what is, in most critics lists, at least a top 20 film, is just a bit scary. I liked both actors, I really did, until Today. This kind of sacrilege leaves them both artistically bankrupt in my eyes. Leo cannot compare himself on any sane level to presence of Orson Welles and Toby doesn't have a 16th of Joesph Cotton's soulful innocence. This is plain arrogance on a scale that makes me question whether Hollywood even serves a purpose anymore.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Holy Fuck No! Decaprio needs to be euthanized

    by BoRock_A_Boomer

    Watch Total Eclipse and you'll see why

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Know what needs "reimagining"?

    by eXcommunicated

    Spiderman. Yes, hate me, but besides parts of Spiderman 2, the Spiderman movies have stunk to high heaven. Toby "stone face" Maguire and Kirsten "Dead Eyes" Dunst are a train wreck with zero charisma or chemistry. Know who would make an awesome Peter Parker? Leonardo DiCaprio.

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST

    There's really no point.

    by LastOfTheV8Interceptors

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 11:53 p.m. CST

    What this project illustrates is how soft American men are

    by YackBacker

    Think about it- can you name an American actor in his 30s or 40s that is truly charismatic and strong enough to fill the shoes of THE THIRD MAN? Leonardo DiCaprio is an excellent actor- I believe he's among the best of American actors. But he lacks the gravitas of actors from yesteryear. As for Maguire... I don't even need to say anything there. <p> And I think that lack of charisma is not just a superficial thing. Orson Welles ad-libbed his famous cuckoo clock line in THE THIRD MAN because he was a man steeped in history and genius. It was one of the high-points of the film and it's something that today's crop of American A-list males don't offer.<p> Now, I'm ragging on Americans on purpose because look around the world and you'll see other nations producing what would be considered classic leading men- guys like Daniel Day Lewis, Daniel Craig, Russell Crowe, Javier Bardem, etc. I don't know why it is this way (maybe our beta-male culture has taken hold) but the trend is undeniable. I love how we geeks try to cast CAPTAIN AMERICA and all of us are coming up with few if any good suggestions. <p> As for remaking THE THIRD MAN... that's an atrocity on its own. Even with better actors, I don't want to see a perfect film touched like TTM. Our culture has no sense of history- no connection to our roots and our past. And that's partly why we suck. It's a shame to see this re-making trend go to this extent. When they remake THE GODFATHER, you'll know it's time to nuke Hollywood. Seriously, why do this?

  • Oct. 25, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Heh.

    by CatVutt

    The shared level of hatred for this spectacularly terrible idea makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, midnight CST

    Citizen Kane next

    by SmokingRobot

    I mean, what the fuck.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, midnight CST

    And the studio should be ashamed.

    by YackBacker

    Whatever pencil-dick suit thought this should even progress to a script stage should be exposed and ridiculed as the symbol of all that's wrong with the industry. In fact anyone that decides to participate in this show is a shameless fool. I hope this movie is a spectacular flop. I hope it teaches the studios a lesson (if they can manage the attention span to notice something beyond their next lunch meeting). This project deserves all the vitriol that film lovers can muster.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:03 a.m. CST

    FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD

    by Black Jesus

    Why can't you cunt muscles come up with a fucking original idea? Leave these movies alone and invest in something NEW. Assholes.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:03 a.m. CST

    WTF is this shit? They're remaking this?!!!!

    by TheWaqman

    Oh God. This is the worst remake idea ever. Easily tops the "Let the Right one In" one easily. Why does this need a remake? It was in English language anyways for Fuck's Sake. Next lets get the Godfather starring Shia Labeouf and Al Pacino as Don Corleone.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Quint, you should not be so diplomatic

    by YackBacker

    If you truly love the original movie, you should be upset about this project. I remember when Harry reviewed J.J. Abrams' awful SUPERMAN script, he shouted from his soap box to protect a story that he felt extremely connected with emotionally. Harry made a difference with his reaction- he put the film community on notice that things were rotten in Hollywood. Quint, that may not be your style to trash this (which I understand given your position as mostly a reporter here) but there are times when a voice should speak out against awful ideas that desecrate beloved works. Many films are important- they offer generations a context, an opportunity to understand our past. Posterity suffers when something like this remake happens. THE THIRD MAN is an important work, and it will never be improved upon by some 21st Century glitzy remake. Quint, I ask you to reconsider your neutrality here.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:10 a.m. CST

    So, Quint?

    by CatVutt

    Take a look at this Talkback. It's okay! You can stop being 'Not fond' of the idea, and get pissed off like the rest of us. Seriously. Do NOT defend this absurdity by underplaying how patently ludicrous and seeped in greed the whole idea is.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Ricky Gervais as Wilfrid Hyde-White

    by Fred

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Heh. Yeah, what Yackbacker said.

    by CatVutt

    I've had a little to drink. My typing is slow.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    DeNiro as the voice of the parrot

    by Fred

    singing opera in Russian

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Thanks, CatVutt

    by YackBacker

    I may start drinking if this rumor is true. AICN, get the bullhorn and start showing some rage against this bastard-project. This is THE THIRD MAN we're talking about here, not BEWITCHED!

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST

    No

    by Neosamurai85

    Just fucking no.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    THIRD MAN Remake = ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS.

    by Captain Happy

    The 1949 classic is so good & benefits greatly from the presence of its stars, Joseph Cotten & the great Orson Welles. DiCaprio & Maguire cannot hope to touch either of these performances, even on their best days.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by BadMrWonka

    you're forgetting some really great and charismatic American actors. like Christian Ba...wait, no, shit. um....Guy Pear...no, fuck...um...oh, oh! what about Brando? oh, he's dead...<p>fuck, this is depressing. I always pull out Edward Norton as an example of a great american actor, but he's not a charismatic leading man type...Keeping the Faith was not The Third Man, after all.<p> And your comment about American movie culture and our history, and it reminded me of a quote by a really amazing Canadian author (whose name I'm blanking on) who came to my college to give a lecture on British Columbian metafiction. when someone asked him why there were so many similar themes in Canadian literature, and so much overlap, he replied, "Well, we're a country cursed with a lot of geography, and not much history."<p>apropos of nothing, but I always liked the quote. I think you're right about American cinema. the bottom line is king, and now, with the box office as big as ever, but the climate as dangerous as ever for unlikely, envelope-pushing films (and independent branches of studios shutting down left and right) then remakes are the inevitable by-product. that, it seems, nothing is holy any more is well....also inevitable. it's sad to think of the american film industry as ware swirling down the toilet bowl, but, well....The Third Man with Tobey Maguire? does it get any more ridiculous than that?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:59 a.m. CST

    "water", not "ware"

    by BadMrWonka

    but ware, surprisingly, also sort of works...

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST

    I'm with the others-AICN needs to denounce this

    by reflecto

    Fuck "not fond." Stop pussying out and admit this SUCKS.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:09 a.m. CST

    God I hope this is a mistake and they meant...

    by Continentalop

    ...THE THIRD VOICE, an old Edmund O'Brien vehicle. A good movie, but flawed, and one I can understand someone would want to remake. <P> But the fucking THIRD MAN? Fuck that.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka, look at GRAN TORINO

    by YackBacker

    That whole movie basically addresses how our society isn't producing "men" anymore (for better or worse). And there is an upside to today's youth not embracing bigotry and other failings of earlier generations. But that's a side issue- and isn't it telling that a 78 year-old Clint Eastwood was the most believable tough guy in that entire movie... or in any movie in recent years? <p> A buddy and I were having this talk just today and he mentioned Ed Norton as a genuine guy, but even then, like you mention, he's no Gregory Peck or Charlton Heston. We're completely without masculine popular icons.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Leo Dicaprio to star in CITIZEN KANE remake

    by lockesbrokenleg

    AICN talkbackers go apeshit.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    ^^^

    by Anything But Tangerines

    good casting for a bad idea

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    why not just get Ben Affleck and Matt Damon

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    if you're going for the most fuck awful annoying asshole actors, these guys are 1 step away.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:54 a.m. CST

    by Anything But Tangerines

    ... will they replace the zither music with irish punk rock? The ferris wheel with maglev coaster? Vienna with L.A.?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Maguire couldn't even play Spiderman good

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Hah hah hah hah

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Yack, re=Masculinity

    by Continentalop

    I have to agree with you whole-heartedly. That has been something I have taken issue with for years, and often have been ridiculed over by friends. <P> Take Johnny Depp for example - good actor, does some interesting movies, but he is not a Man. And I don't mean that in some sort of stereotypical, stupid he-man way, but their is nothing really adult or masculine about him. He can only play boy-childs, like Captain Jack Sparrow, Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhands, or even Dillinger (in the latest movie, they made him a rebellious rock star - Warren Oates played him an independent minded man). Whenever Depp does play an adult male role, like Donnie Brasco, he fails miserably. <P> Right now, we are seriously lacking the Humphrey Bogart, Robert Mitchum, Cary Grant, Gene Hackman, and Brando types.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 2:33 a.m. CST

    When In Doubt...

    by Rebeck2

    Just spout some anti-American crap and you're instantly cool. Shut the fuck up, yackattack...yackass...yackoff... Yes, if only the US could produce real men like Orlando Bloom and Robert Pattinson. And Daniel Craig is not a "classic leading man" in any defintion I'm aware of. In the old days he would be Russian Thug #3 who Cary Grant kills in the second act. Are there a shortage of Men's men like Robert Mitchum or Lee Marvin today? Absolutely. But that has much more to do with the times and the women's movement, as well as the film industry's obsession with youth, than America. Oh and back on topic, Hollywood is fucking dead - period. They have stuck their head so far up their own ass with all these remakes that I think the entire business is going creatively bankrupt. I honestly think it may be "end of days" for original intelligent adult drama.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Rebeck2, Yack is right

    by Continentalop

    You want proof? Jason Statham, British. <P> Who is America's big tough young star? The Rock and Vin Diesel, and those two now star in family movies (like Witch Mountain and The Pacifier). <P> For some reason, film audiences will accept a foreigner as a tough, rugged manly type, but not an American. Don't ask me why, but there is a serious lack of young, masculine male leads with American backgrounds. <P> And I don't blame the women's movement. That is just passing the buck - I blame men. Anytime men will except Tom Cruise as a blue collar worker like he "supposedly" was in WOTW, we have only ourselves to blame.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Rebeck2

    You're really stretching it when you say Depp wasn't a "man" as Dillinger in PUBLIC ENEMIES. I don't know print of that film you saw, but he was cocksure and in control and banging Marion Cotillard. What, he didn't scratch and spit enough for you? Is Sean Penn a man?? How about Mickey Rourke? DeNiro? Pacino? Nolte? This is the start of a stupid fucking discussion. Look, it's simple: Hollywood doesn't like to make movies about older, experienced men anymore, they want the young guys who bring in the teenage girls. They think kids are so stupid that they won't watch a movie with an older more world-weary hero. Sean Connery taught them nothing.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Hey...

    by Rebeck2

    I actually like Jason Statham - I think the guy can play subtle and sly, and even funny - but being a bald football brawler is not the ultimate definition of manhood.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Rebeck

    by Continentalop

    A) Rourke, DeNiro, Pacino & Nolte. How are these guys draws anymore? They were stars from a different era, the 70s and 80s. As for Penn, yes I would say he is a "man" (whatever that means) but how many major movies does he star in? Few and far between (and rarely does he play "manly" characters - when he does we take notice). <P> B) Sorry, but I did not find PUBLIC ENEMIES to be that engaging, and I thought Depp was playing another version of the rock star, like he did in a lot of his other films. He might have been cocksure and in control, and banging Marion Cotillard, but I didn't feel that Depp was the type of guy not to mess with (unlike, once again, Warren Oates). <P> C) Doesn't the fact that America and the studios make films that cater to young people prove Yack and my argument? We don't make films about and for adult men in this country anymore (or at least not to a big degree as we used to). <P> C) I actually find Statham cartoonish, but it is amazing that he can play the alpha male type character that is never included in movies nowadays. The only America in recent years who has played such a character is Michael Ja White in Black Dynamite and that is a comedy. BD and Jason Stratham in Crank and Transporter (both bad movies) are characters who are unabashedly male. You don't see that much anymore, especially in American movies. <P>

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Now TV

    by Continentalop

    That is a completely different situation. But it makes me wonder if Hollywood has given up on making movies for adult males (and I don't mean porn) and instead will only make TV shows featuring them.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Dear Hollywood: Suck every dick in existence.

    by Horace Cox

    Get moving, Suits. That's a lot of dicks. But I'm sure you'll have plenty of time since you sure as fuck aren't doing any productive these days. HORRIBLE idea compounded by even WORSE casting.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Josh Brolin can play a tough guy

    by Horace Cox

    Plus he's banging Diane Lane. Lucky bastard.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:15 a.m. CST

    I should be in the sequel to "Ferocious Female Freedom Fighters"

    by Continentalop

    Considering I fucking repeated C. <P> Obviously, there should be a D) following point C). Duh.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Remakes are natural

    by stalepie

    We've been retelling stories since the dawn of existence. Plays are always retold and people redo and cover songs all the time, always have.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:23 a.m. CST

    long history in holly

    by stalepie

    And Hollywood has been doing remakes for a long time. For instance, there were multiple versions of "A Star Is Born" and "Singin in the Rain" was mostly just remakes of previous songs.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:30 a.m. CST

    both great actors...but this is a fucking terrible idea

    by TheDark0Knight

    stupid,stupid,stupid.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:31 a.m. CST

    @YackBacker

    by stalepie

    "And I think that lack of charisma is not just a superficial thing. Orson Welles ad-libbed his famous cuckoo clock line in THE THIRD MAN because he was a man steeped in history and genius." Yes, which is why he flubbed the whole part about the Swiss not even making cuckoo clocks in real life :P

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:54 a.m. CST

    They are remaking the 3rd Man? BOUAHAHAHA

    by ominus

    next stop the remaking of citizen kane.why the fuck not?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Decades from now, they'll look back and muse...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...Over how many moronic fucking decisions were made based purely on the studio having control over the rights to some old property or other, even if it was a fucking Scooby-Do cartoon.<p> Hollywood execs would sooner be castrated with a carrot peeler than actually purchase the rights to a never-before-filmed work of literature, or (shudder) actually hire a talented writer to create an original work of art.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 4:03 a.m. CST

    a bio of orson welles..

    by emeraldboy

    with a kane element running through it. to demonstrate the fact that kane was really al about welles. and not hearst.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 4:22 a.m. CST

    oh jesus

    by stalepie

    I wouldn't mind a remake of Chimes at Midnight. I'd even like a colorization of Sunrise if it was artistic.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 4:30 a.m. CST

    Are. You. Fucking. Kidding. Me?

    by blakindigo

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 4:32 a.m. CST

    "G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra" Remake— Do it now.

    by blakindigo

    Why the hell not?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 4:42 a.m. CST

    Conti and Yack…

    by blakindigo

    Are we talking about leading men that draw audiences in financial terms or are we talking about the actors in leading roles?<br><br>I'd put Mickey Rourke up there for leading actors along with Sean Penn. What about Sam Jackson? What about Denzel Washington? What about Josh Brolin? What about Kurt Russell? Ron Perlman? Ray Liotta?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 5:23 a.m. CST

    As much as I hate the idea of my favourite movie being remade...

    by syn_flood

    ... if it's going to happen, I can't think of better casting for Harry Lime than Leondardo DiCaprio

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Un.Fucking.Believable!

    by reaper28

    Leo. Booblah. <p>This is a mistake of BIBLICAL proportions.</p> <p>Please kill this project while you still can.</p>

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    YackBacker, Rebeck and all involved in the macho string

    by Redbox Vacation

    You both have excellent points and I do miss Robert Mitchum, but Welles wasn't a badass, macho man, he was a renaissance man. Harry Lime is a mix of confidence man, killer, poet and intellectual. Much more dangerous than just a badass, Lime was a badass of vast capabilities and invention. There was a 50 episode radio show called the lives of Harry Lime that Welles did after the movie. It plays like a mixture Maverick and James Bond. Both Liev Schreiber and Vincent D'Onofrio have played Welles and I think you would need someone on that level to play Lime, but that would just amount to parody. True, we are no longer a nation of Eastwoods and McQueens, but who can compete with those giants? Look at Japan. They only ever needed one badass, because he was the greatest badass of all time. Long live Toshiro Mifune! I wish he was alive and I could put him in a room with these two wimpy, man boys.. He could teach them about remaking classics!

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Manly Americans(?)

    by Skyway Moaters

    Viggo Mortensen? Ok, he's kind of an "international", but mostly a "New Yorker" when you get down to it. Arron Eckhart for Cap? <p> Oh and remaking "The Third Man"? Regardless of DiCaprio and Maguire: Horrible, awful, stupid, assinine, repulsive idea and no mistake. Let's just retouch "The Mona Lisa" while we're at it. Reinterpret Picasso's "Guernica". Update the Cistine (sp?) Chapel, etc etc etc, blah blah blah...

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 7:58 a.m. CST

    You guys need to read what I'm saying

    by YackBacker

    Being "masculine" doesn't mean you're some badass macho dude. Being a "man" means a lot of things, but it's the general idea that you're a guy who gets things done (doesn't spend too much time hemming and hawing) and possesses a toughness of spirit that endures most obstacles along the way. A real man can have his moments of doubt, but even then it's not a cataclysmic reckoning. Seriously, it's hard to describe but even a guy like Jimmy Stewart outshines his modern-day standard-bearer Tom Hanks in this regard. <p> And as I wrote above, I wanted to limit this to guys 40 and below in age because I'm talking about the current generation in its prime. Denzel Washington is 55 years old now. Sean Penn, Ray Liotta, Sam Jackson and Mickey Rourke are all from an odler generation too. And Josh Brolin is a decent choice, but even then he plays a limited scope of characters (their accents may change, but they are all squinting, angry types). I think he acts tough more than he's displayed being a "real man" onscreen. But that could change with more roles.<p> Viggo Mortensen is Danish. Aaron Eckhart is not masculine, sorry.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST

    This Is The Good Re-Make Type IMO

    by Crow3711

    The kind of old movie not a lot of people have seen today, a classic that can be updated and re-told, etc. It sounds like it can be done with a real idea behind it, not just "this was a huge hit ten years ago, lets remake it and have a huge hit again!" No one is going to cry blasphemy on this, could be a fun little movie. More re-makes should be in this vein.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Crow3711, honestly have you seen THE THIRD MAN?

    by YackBacker

    If you haven't that's fine, but I think you should consider that 99% of the people here that have seen it are crying blasphemy.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Ugh. And probably in color too.

    by Bot-Bot

    DiCaprio the boy-faced man and Tobey Maguire - also the boy-faced man. Seriously, who sits around, jumps out of their chairs with glee and says "These guys would be perfect!" They're good actors and all, but c'mon - how about some manly men.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Mortensen was born in NY.

    by Skyway Moaters

    And went to Highschool there. His father is Danish his mother is American, he holds dual US and Danish citizenship, and spent a good deal of his childhood in Buenos Aries. <p> And if you can shift those giant hairy balls of yours enough to reach your keyboard, would you kindly be more specific about why Eckhart isn't "a man", and isn't right for Captain America?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    40 and below Yack?

    by Skyway Moaters

    Mortenson is 50. But 50 is like the new 40, know what I'm sayin'? I take it you're under 40? Erm, under 30 probably? Actors are over the hill at "out of their prime ar 40?! Mortensen's just getting rolling. Eastwood's best work came after 40, as did John Wayne's. You going to argue that the Duke wasn't "masculine" now or what? Most actors that I really like, with very few exceptions didn't "hit their stride" until their mid 30ies, Peck, Cooper, McQueen, Stewart, Marvin, Mitchum, et al with their best working coming AFTER age 40.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 8:56 a.m. CST

    *sigh* My kingdom for an edit function!

    by Skyway Moaters

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Ok, Viggo was born in America

    by YackBacker

    And so was Mel Gibson- and both were raised overseas. And therefore, they do not apply to this conversation. So far, Eckhart has not distinguished himself as being masculine. Having a square jaw doesn't suffice. He's not a bad actor, he's just not a dynamic presence. Compare him with guys like Gene Hackman, Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen- this is the context I'm referring to for the purposes of this conversation. Could you imagine Eckhart holding his own with those guys in THE FRENCH CONNECTION, THE GREAT ESCAPE or DIRTY HARRY? Swap Eckhart into any of those classic roles and you can see the difference.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9 a.m. CST

    Skyway, you're missing the point

    by YackBacker

    I'm talking about the generation of current actors in their prime. This is a sociological discussion- what has happened within the last 40 years that has rendered this dirth of masculinity in American culture? Where's the break in the line from prior generations? That's the issue.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    dearth, not "dirth"

    by YackBacker

    I was thinking of "mirth" as in there's way too much of it!

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    didnt they do this with THE GOOD GERMAN?

    by Six Demon Bag

    gimme SATAN'S ALLEY!!!!

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Re: the age thing

    by Sonny_Williams

    IMDB says that DeCaprio is already older than Welles when THE THIRD MAN was made, although you could argue that Welles always looked and played older than the calendar indicates. Cotton was 10 years older than Welles so that particular criticism is valid.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Clarified Yacky

    by Skyway Moaters

    And I don't know. It's not as simple as Womens/Civil/Gay rights and greater sensitivity etc as some have suggested above. Just less "manly men" getting into acting for whatever reason is as close as I can come. <p> The whole fanboy "that's gay dude" attitude is closer to the mark than greater sensitivity I think. That's happened everywhere, not jus tin the US. and in most western cultures, except for some very male dominent societies - Italy for example, the "sensitive man" thing has gone further than it has in the US. I don't know dude. What's your theory?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Skyway, it could be a combination of things

    by YackBacker

    I think prosperity in our society is one thing- that the majority of people that grew up in the last 40 years went off to college and got stable incomes, etc. Yeah, we've had a few wars since Vietnam, but the voluntary enlistment has resulted in a separate society of people who have served in the military. I have some good friends that have served/are serving and its striking the differences that take place before and after the fact. <p> I think political correctness has played a factor- in stripping down the sexism and bigotry of prior generations, our PC culture has gone overboard and created a chilling effect for masculinity. Being masculine is misinterpreted as being "aggressive" or condescending towards women (like opening a door for a lady pissing off a feminist). <p> I look at the veterans from WWII that are on The History Channel all of the time, and they give off an aura of being grounded, regular guys. I hate to generalize so broadly, but there's a difference between us and them. <p> What can I say? We've gone soft. We "tweet" for crissake.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    There's also no accountability today

    by YackBacker

    50 years ago, if shit like the Wall Street derivatives crash took place, people would be going to jail, not getting billions of dollars in bonuses. A guy like Michael Vick would never be allowed to show his face in the NFL either. We permit a lot of things to pass that diminishes our overall senses of honor and respect.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Don't even think about it

    by filmcoyote

    I'm not a violent man, now a knee-jerk remake hater but The Third Man is flawless. One of the greatest films ever made, the best British film ever made, and features one of the most iconic characters/performances of all time in Welles' Harry Lime (and Cotten and Howard are sublime). And you just know they are thinking "update to post war Iraq"!!! If this remake moves forward from anything other than rumour i will find a way to stop it, you Hollywood idiots are fairly warned.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    NO NEED FOR REMAKE

    by Gungan Slayer

    Hopefully this is just some lame bullshit rumor some ass made up to get hits on his site. Hopefully it won't give anyone any ideas.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Flimshaw!

    by jazzgalaxy

    You've got to be kidding me. I just saw this movie for the first time a couple of years ago and it rocketed up to become one of my favorite movies and now they're considering this. I really, really hate the idea of a remake... unless, (unless!) the coen brothers are involved. I seriously think they're the only filmmakers working with the sensibilities to pull this off-- but then again, there was the ladykillers...

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Two of the most overhyped, underwhelming actors...

    by Dragon Man

    What is it with Hollywood losing their shit over DiCaprio and Maguire? They're not terrible but they're certainly not up to the amount of praise everyone heaps on them. DiCpario in particular is overwhelmed in every role I've seen him take, and Maguire has only those big puppy-dog eyes to get him through any scene. Now they're going to do this?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    FIRST STAR TREK 2 VIRAL??????

    by ominus

    Animated Klingon Propaganda Could Be A Viral Video For Trek 2: http://tinyurl.com/yhmgwhr FUCKING AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    YOU CAN'T REMAKE PERFECTION

    by Mullah Omar

    Can anyone think of anything about the original that didn't work or cried out for an improvement? I can't. <br> <br> Count me as one of the people who isn't automatically upset at the idea of remaking films, but that is 100% against remaking THE THIRD MAN. There is simply nothing any group of actors or filmmakers can do to top or even equal the original.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    I thought Leo was Toothy Tile for a long time

    by CherryValance

    Maybe that's the plan. Remake the Third Man. check. Get everyone to hate me. check. I can live as gay as I wanna be. check. Uh huh. He's probably one of a handful of actors whose career would actually be damaged by coming out if he was gay. So trashing your career first might be a way around it.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    ominus do you speak Klingon?

    by blakindigo

    http://www.tlhingan.org/

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    lets just remake citizen kane

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    i mean with cgi tech we could make it way better now, right?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    this is not a star trak talk back

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Movie tough guys?

    by Subtitles_Off

    This is really a concern?<P>In 2009?<P>Ha! Sure, you can blame pretty boy actors like Pitt and Clooney. Or, you can whine about the "gayification" or "Oprah-fying" of Hollywood. Truth is, "tough guys" have been exposed as a joke. They don't exist in society except as cartoons or New Jersey-ites. The obvious examples are rappers and UFC fighters, but the root was planted thirty years ago. <P>That's right, boys. Blame whoever you want, now, but the fault lies with the lauded buffoons of the 80s: Stallone, Ahnold, Seagal, Norris, etc., even Willis (though he's spent much of his time since trying to wash the stink off). Maybe you didn't realize it, but people were laughing at that shit all along.<P>THE EXPENDABLES ain't gonna bring them back.<P>Besides, why are you talking about that here? Joseph Cotten ever really convince anyone he was a tough guy?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Yikes...

    by filmicdrummer17

    Let's just get Sodebergh to cast Damon and Clooney and call it "Ocean's 14." Vomit.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Not tough guys Subs

    by Continentalop

    Men. Adult males. Guys who get things done. <P> Think of it as comparing George Reeves "adult, dad-type Superman" with Brandon Routh's Stalkerman, and you'll get the idea.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Rebeck actually nailed it earlier

    by Continentalop

    When he said it was our fascination with youth. It has bled over to films and pop culture. We don't want adult leads, we want kid's in movie - 30 & 40 year old kids. <P> I think it just reflects the fact as a society we are not expected to grow up that quick or ever at all. I mean, take us (including me) for example: we are all on a website devoted to comic books, fantasy and geek shit 24-seven. Not the most adult hobby to have.<P> (and if anyone says we should focus on sports to be more adult, I disagree. In the old days men followed sports, but they sure as hell didn't let it consume them like nowadays. You didn't see guys in the 1940s and 1950s wearing team jerseys like they were 10 year olds and painting their faces the team colors - they had a little to much dignity for that).

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    there are no tough guys in the third man

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    the thing that makes 3rd man stand out is that it is a film noir movie that is not film noir. no tough guys and no femme fatales.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Crying Blasphemy Isn't The Point

    by Crow3711

    This isn't a film like Citizen Kane, at all. It isn't something every person has seen or heard of. This is a film Orson Welles fans, film students, and film buffs have seen. As much as we'd like to believe we are the only people on the planet, we aren't. I think this is a decent story to bring to the attention of a new audience. It doesn't have to be blasphemy. If it leads even one younger person to go back and discover the original, and expand their film views, so be it. As popular ad wonderful as The Third Man is amongst all of us, I dont think there is anything wrong with re-making it. Just my two cents. For the second time. Making it possibly four to five cents.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Ned_Rage

    by Continentalop

    No Tough guys, but it is about adults (well, except for Welles character - to me he was always a big child in it). It is about the battle between loyalty and morality - much different than most movies nowadays. <P> And a lot of Film Noirs didn't have have tough guys or femme fatales. I would say the 3rd Man isn't a noir because it isn't an American film, and it really was an American film movement.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Gottverfluchte Scheisse!

    by ruedisueli

    Somebody to beat up some Hollywood producers, please. Why can't these retards come up with something new? Why do they have to destroy my memory of one of my beloved movies?...pure Gugus!

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Maguire couldn't even play Spiderman good

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Wow, excellent English there. Shining example of AICN talkbackers.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Star Wars prequels sucked dick

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    didn't they?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Public Enemies

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    That movie was a wankfest. Depp is so fucking boring here, i even found good guy Bale more interesting. Depp was going through the motions, when he starts crying in the car i started cracking up.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    yup, true. My english can get even worse.

    by ruedisueli

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Good God.

    by Charlie_Allnut

    Even the 3rd Man isn't safe? That's one of my all time favorite movies, artistically in the league of Citizen Kane. What's next? Casablanca? Tobey Maguire was already in a bad 3rd Man ripoff - the Good German. Guess what? It had an edgy talented director. Guess what else? It fucking sucked. I hope this project dies a quick death.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Crow3711

    by Charlie_Allnut

    The reality is that most people (outside of this website)have never seen a movie that was made pre 1972. Thus outside of a few select movies such as Kane, Wizard of Oz and Gone With the Wind, most people have not heard of some of the most perfect, brilliant movies ever made. Where do we draw the line? Does every movie really need to be remade? I believe if a movie had a great concept, but just wasn't executed well then sure why not? I think the Italian job is a good example of this. However for a lesson on needless remakes one need go no further then the terrible remakes of The Manchurian Candidate and Charade (The Trouble with Charlie).

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Motion

    by ToshiroShimura

    I think there needs to be a list compiled compromising all movies that should not be remade based on some sort of historical significance. The Third Man is the type of movie that shouldn't even be considered for remaking. What's next? Sunset Boulevard? Touch of Evil? Seven Samurai? (smirk) This could never work. It will never work. It will be loathed by every single film enthusiast on the planet, and in turn will destroy the careers of all involved. Can you imagine the uproar when Brett Rathner is announced as the director of the shot-for-shot remake of Citizen Kane, coincidentally on the same day that Michael Bay announces his idea for a "futuristic, sexy reimagining" of Vertigo starring Megan Fox as Kim Novak and Zac Effron as Jimmy Stewart?

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    They need to stay the FUCK away from this.

    by Sal_Bando

    Or, as Noted_Sage Shia_GiantRobots Sez-and I quothe: nononononononononononnononononononononono

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Leading men

    by savagedave

    I think Liev Schrieber is growing into that bracket. He was good in Defiance and by far the best thing about Wolverine.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    As Lime said-Free of income tax, Holly-Free of Income tax-

    by Sal_Bando

    -whilst Hollywood's brainstem is FREE OF FUNCTION. <p> You ASSHATS. GO back and re-make MR. ROGERS or something--

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Noted_Sage_Sal_Bando has never

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    seen the third man. he thought it was a gay porn and got really excited.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    This would be like Leo and Tobey playing dress-up

    by CountryBoy

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    I threw up on Joseph Cotten...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...when I was on a plane when I was 1. I suppose I was predestined to be a talkbacker from that point on.

  • Oct. 26, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    This just in

    by IForgotAbout19

    Tobey MacGuire is crying. More details as the situation changes.

  • Oct. 27, 2009, 2:12 a.m. CST

    Remaster it!

    by ruedisueli

    The producers could safe some money if they just would digitally remaster it instead of shooting a remake. Ala the remastered Star Wars trilogy from the 70's. That said, I'm still waiting for a DVD release of Elio Petri's Todo Modo.

  • Oct. 27, 2009, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Idiotic idea

    by The_Ad_Wizard_Who_Came_Up_With_This_One

    Fuck you, Hollywood!

  • Oct. 27, 2009, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Leo part of this rumour is not true - confirmed

    by filmcoyote

    Leo's rep confirmed yesterday that he is not involved in any remake of The Third Man. Don't know if any of this rumour is true but at least Leo has the good sense not to be involved.

  • Oct. 27, 2009, 7:45 a.m. CST

    by stalepie

    The only classic movies y'all mention is Casablanca, Citizen Kane and Seven Samurai. Can't yall join something nice like http://forums.delphiforums.com/classicmov/ instead of talking at this place? Maybe you'll learn something. I hope they remake Sunrise, Casablanca, Third Man, Pulp Fiction, Star Wars and Citizen Toxie. Where the Sidewalk Ends too. In color. I want a colorized version of Sunrise AND eraserhead. I want to see Barry Lyndon in black and white!

  • Oct. 27, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Hollywood in range

    by Grand Moff Toht

    You may fire when ready.

  • Oct. 27, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    B and W sewer scenes, what first attracted me to B&W photography

    by Wes From NY

    I hope these guys do this..........it will be the first thing they have done together since the mind scarring "Dons Plum"

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