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Hercules Says Comedy Central’s THE JEFF DUNHAM SHOW Is A Good Series For Me To Poop On!!
I am – Hercules!!
Comedy Central has a truly terrible new sketch show starring the unfunny ventriloquist Jeff Dunham. I believe it to be one of the worst things ever to hit the channel, and they’ve cablecast “Secret Girlfriend,” “Mind of Mencia” and “Mad TV.”
I’d no idea why they would give this guy a series before the hilarious Triumph The Insult Comic Dog. Maybe because puppeteer Robert Smigel insists on moving his lips? For the record, you can see Dunham’s lips move as well.
It turns out Dunham was the star of a 2008 Christmas special that garnered Comedy Central a record 6.6 million viewers. If that special was anything like this pilot, one has to suspect a grave Nielsen bookkeeping error.
Entertainment Weekly says:
… He's a low-key charmer, and his ventriloquial skill is so superb that folks talk to his creations as though they were human. …
The Washington Post says:
Every so often the inexplicable success of a bad comedy act just cannot be explicked. I mean, you don't have to like Larry the Cable Guy in order to see why his fans do. Same with Dane Cook: Even if his comedy drives you up a wall, you can always stop mid-climb, look back, and at least understand why so many millions are laughing and laughing at his jokes. But Jeff Dunham? Readers, I'm stumped. … Not only is it deadeningly unfunny, it also defies all the known constructs of television criticism. I simply have no idea why it's on. …
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:
I'd never heard of comic/ventriloquist Jeff Dunham before press tour this summer when Comedy Central introduced him to TV critics and he bombed in a flopsweat of hurled invectives. … a weekly dose of Dunham's wooden characters who are all unlikeable and offensive in different ways. … I don't mind offensive when it's genuinely funny or satirical -- "South Park" has been offensive from day one and it's still one of the most cogent, topical shows on TV -- but Dunham's humor didn't make me laugh. And worse: I could see his lips moving.
The Boston Globe says:
… As the dummies spout predictable jokes, most of them revolving around racial stereotypes, Dunham stands by looking like a smirking Kiefer Sutherland. …
Variety says:
… a talented ventriloquist with a not-particularly-scintillating act … Dunham's main wrinkle appears to be that the dummies have been updated for a red-state audience, from the curmudgeonly Walter -- who gripes "You're on TV. There's a black guy in the White House" as a sign the world's going to hell -- to Achmed the dead terrorist, who gets the audience to chant "I kill you" along with him. …
The Hollywood Reporter says:
… What do 6.6 million people love so much? Having watched the pilot of "The Jeff Dunham Show," the answer is, "Heaven knows." … racist caricatures, full of meanness and cliches, ranging from Achmed the Dead Terrorist (a skeleton with the heavily accented catchphrase of "I kill you") to Peanut, the disturbing Muppet-like troll creature who has the hots for guest star Brooke Hogan. … their escapades are at best wretchedly crude (did we need to see a doll on the toilet?) and at worst homophobic. It's all a complete train wreck, but it still is can't-miss comedy because after watching an episode, the rest of television looks better by comparison. Perhaps that's the secret of those 6.6 million: They're not looking to laugh. They're looking for the life-affirming moments that come from the commercials.
9 p.m. Thursday. Comedy Central.
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Good show, featuring Triumph's cousin, but I guess it didn't do well.
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I don't know who greenlit the dude with the puppets but he needs a time out to think about what he's done.
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I was a teen in the late 80's.
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I mean, I get SOME of the hate. It's very broad humor, lying somewhere between family-friendly and conservative-friendly, and me being a liberal raised on George Carlin and Eddie Murphy, I shouldn't be much of a fan. But I liked Dunham & Peanut quite a bit back in 8th grade (1990.) And my kids like Achmed, Peanut & Walter these days, and I have to admit I tend to think his routines are fairly funny. Nothing cutting-edge or particularly highbrow, but funny. If the show sucks, it sucks. But at least Mencia's show is gone and they haven't given one to Dane Cook.
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I've always been a big fan of The State, and I think every one of the guys from the group is hilarious... but "Michael and Michael Have Issues" was so convoluted and bizarre, I can't say I'm surprised Comedy Central would eschew the highbrow for a while and put their chips down on a Red-state act that got them 6 and a half million viewers last Christmas.
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who will support anything which mocks a black president, and portrays Arab terrorists as dead.
Doesn't matter if it's funny or not. They'll support the ever loving fuck out of it.
Be thankful there's only 6 million or so of them. If Glen Beck is to be believed, and Obama is a Hitler, then 6 million should prove no obstacle. -
I'd be very happy just watching RENO911 reruns.
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Guess I'm not watching Comedy Central much these days.
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So we can't make fun of the current president because of his race. Got it. You're a fucking idiot V'Shael. Keep thinking there's going to be an uprising because of Glenn Fucking Beck.
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I haven't seen Tosh, but recall Web Junk 20 kinda sucking.
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The hell? One of his characters is a pimp, and another is trailer trash. If he can be accused of anything its being moderate. He drives a prius for god sakes.meh, whatever. and if he can pull out Sweet Daddy Dee in a club full of black people and make it out alive he gets a pass on the offense-o-meter in my book.
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He has been popping up on Comedy Channel/Comedy Central for YEARS, so I've had plenty of chances to see his act. I always thought his ventriloquism was sub-par and his jokes repetitive. BUT, God knows why, everybody in my family--including my wife--think he's a fucking genius.
He's also gotten very lazy with his voices. In the previews all the characters sound basically the same, unlike back in the day when Peanut, Walter, and the Jalapeno- on-a-stick all had very distinguishable voices.
For raw talent alone, Terry Fator and Ron Lucas are far superior, and either would probably be a better choice--However, it seems they're both making a killing in Vegas.
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one would watch him at all.
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Never said you couldn't mock the President. Never said there'd be an uprising. Let me spell it out for your tiny mind : There are some people who will support anything which mocks a black President regardless of whether or not it's actually funny. This does not say you can't mock the dude. Just that you don't have to try very hard, to get a small guaranteed happy audience.
Still, you reacted with just enough knee-jerk hostility to tell me you're a racist fucktard who doesn't like being called out on his racism.
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Jeff Dunham is one if not the best comidians and ventriloquists on the planet..I am sceptical about a variety show though..I wish him the best...And since Herc. always has to dump on what he doesnt like, then to feed his ego he only publishes the Bad parts of reports from the media sources listed above (to which I have read most of them..and there is alot of great things said too..so back off Herc..
And YES! OH YES!...Smigel's Triumph the insult comic dog..is lord and master of the universe..Peace -
Dude, that shit wasn't even funny a hundred years ago. Let. It. Die.
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and all other agenda driven commenters on Jeff Dunham. There was a movie made about assassinating GW Bush. Were you outraged? The amount of personal hate poured onto our previous president was 10 times more vitriolic than anything Obama and his flight of media sycophants have come up against... and all those whose sensibilities are so delicate now did when the GW movie came out was smirk. Tea parties? These are about Obama's *policies*, never about race as you like to pretend. If one racist idiot in a hundred shows up, who can stop them? There are still a few racist idiots in the world. Of course I think they are outnumbered by the number of nutjobs on the other side who want Dick Cheney in front of a firing squad. Not to mention, those folks are actually the reigning opinion leaders on the left. In contrast, you can't say David Duke gets anybody's vote on the right other than perhaps from his grandmother.
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Seriously. It would be funnier.
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If I remember correctly, that movie about Bush came out of Canada-- so, there's that.
Also, Obama get's real threats made by Americans, so there's that.
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this guy sucks. I actually saw him on a cruise ship last year. dreadful.
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My point was that racists are outcast from the mainstream discussion. They have no power whatsoever in any venue. In contrast, Obama's crew actually care about Huffington Post style conspiracy nuts and haters. Who else is Obama catering to when he refuses to send reinforcements to Afghanistan? Eh, who am I kidding, most of the people reading this site share the same opinions as the nuts I referenced. The left, which has a long and honorable history, has been hijacked by the very few. How did their voices come to dominate?
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Also, I've seen Dunham live twice and I think he's doing at least one thing that's a little subversive. People leave his shows talking about how sharp his puppets are and how dull he is. Well, that's kind of weird, isn't it? Since the puppets *are* him, they by definition should not be able to exceed him in their comedic skills. I think he's actually playing a character for himself, sort of taking the comedy "straight man" to another level to completely invest the puppet with a separate character and to make himself seem nearly incapable of investing those inanimate objects with life.The last time I saw him, I actually said, "Hey, y'know Dunham seemed really out of it tonight like maybe he was even a little drunk or something." And yet, the puppets were spot on. Is it really possible that he underplays himself so much, just for the art?
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The same way the inmates came to run the asylum on the right. I think it's because political discourse in this country doesn't exist.
First, you have to acknowledge that true liberalism doesn't exist politically in this country. The leftist groups don't have enough galvanizing elements to create a significant left-wing nutjob movement, so that dashes your argument. The reason that the right wingut component is successful is that their galvanizing argument is rational, but they don't act on the rational argument, they pervert and distort it until it's indistinguishable. The primary problem with the right wing agenda is that it relies on people to make it work. Trickle-down economics is a great idea, except people are greedy and don't "trickle down"-- they, "grab and hold". That's just one example, but it's cogent given the times.
To your earlier point, racists are not outcasts from society, because most racists ( unfortunately the most clever ones) are smart enough to know that if they are blatant racists they will be cast out of society, so instead they make jokes at the water cooler and pass around emails where nobody is supposed to be able to see them. I know it's folly to call all bigots racists. Author, Jack London was quite the bigot I've recently come to understand. Was he a racist? I don't guess I'll ever know, but he certainly had unabashed belief that his race should succeed at the detriment of others.
Anyways, I ramble, but for one thing, I'm not so sure you actually read the Huffington Post. Maybe you should give it a shot sometime instead of peppering it with buckshot and also, you should take a hard lens to some of the right-wing punditry. If you don't believe that those guys are at the very least, bigots, then I can't help you.
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they just have to go through the motions first.
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Dunham is great. Although I thought the Christmas special was a little weak.
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that is all
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--You know the kind of station: self-proclaimed apolitical but the host and his drooling cronies still take every opportunity they can to be misogynistic and homophobic? Yeah, that kind of program. Dunham was just on this morning. He began the radio interview with his dead terrorist character (not very well, either) and it went downhill from there. Note to Jeff: ventriloquism no longer works that well on the radio, so maybe start out your interviews by being yourself. Even the radio host, who usually is ready to fellate any xenophobe who appears on his show, was totally unimpressed. The guy just ain't funny!
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that I find offensive about his act is how unfunny and hack it is. Larry the Cable Guy looks like a Fulbright scholar next to him. The Dunham show is one of those shows where I actually felt uncomfortable watching it,it is so bad. Complete and utter douche-chill material.
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But will not for God's sake even mention It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. Maybe because its actually funny and FX has given it such a long advance ( something like 3 more seasons ) he feels it doesn't need to be mentioned.
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You get trampled on by long winded people talking about polotics and media, cause the dont want to talk about just having fun..people can like what they want..gboybama,man! Why so serious?..yes I know whats gonna be mentioned next..gee is dunham the joker now...Duhhhh duhhh
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The "non-puppet" has always played straight man to the puppet, going back to Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy to Willie Tyler & Lester to Wayland Flowers and Madame. Its the classic two-man comedy team, minus one.
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I almost had a spot on this bulshit show. Good thing fate conspired to keep me off it.
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Not ragging on the army per se, but our taxpayer funding dollars marketing the miltary experience to prospective high school juniors as a skeet shooting game at the arcade.
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like Hurricane Katrina.
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Like someone else said, watching his shitty act actually makes me uncomfortable. Not funny... just kind of pathetic. I can't even muster any pity laughter. The Christmas special was atrocious.
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Jesus Christ Dunham was a favorite of Johnny Carson's back in 1988. In his debut came on the show and did Peanut. Carson called him over to the couch when he was done. Dunham next several apperances were with the old man puppet Walter, and they did the act from the couch with Carson interviewing Walter. This gig has been 21 years in the making!!!Total lack of institutional memory in journalism.-----m
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any lousy one-hit comedian a tv show on Comedy Central. I'm surprised we never had "The Dane Cook Show." Surprised and thankful.
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according to the posts seen here SNL is terrible, Dane Cook is the antichrist and Jeff Dunham eats puppies. Exactly who do you people find funny? Just curious because I like all three mentioned. Humor is subjective and not every comedian is for everyone's taste. Just cause you don't find someone or something funny doesn't mean it's sucks. It's not for you don't watch. I can't stand Larry the Cable Guy or Jeff Foxworthy but their humor is not aimed at me. So I don't say they suck (the millions they pull in do say differntly). The only person that comes to mind as NOT FUNNY is Pauly Shore. However having met the guy, he's really nice in person so I feel bad even posting that. If you hate it fine, but don't go bashing it over the heads of people who do.
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His jokes are safe, corny and obvious. So obvious you could literally pause at the end of each setup and fill in almost exactly what he's about to have the dummy say. To people who don't understand the hate, look at it this way. You know how every night your parents would watch Funniest Home Videos almost religiously and laugh their hearts out at Bob Saget's corny jokes and Dave Couliers desperate impressions of Bullwinkle and Scooby Doo (which were more like autistic ticks than impressions really), while you stared on in horror, wishing someone would hold a pillow over your face to drown out the slide-whistle montage of kids getting thrown from sleds? Yeah, we get the same feeling when someone turns on Jeff Dunham.
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No, hardly. But many things that are popular DO suck. If popularity were the measure of quality, any product that sells well would, by definition, be great. Hula Hoops would have been the most stunningly wonderful ANYTHING of the 1950s. Is that difficult?
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there is no excuse for liking Stain Cook.
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...while I stare in stone silence, wondering how we possibly sprung from the same genetic goop.
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Yeah, I know about the general dynamic of comedic puppeteering. But, I think Dunham takes it a step further. Like, he is willing to act incompetent or even slow. It's like the difference between not being in on the joke and not being even able to understand the joke. Oh Hell. Maybe I'm just splitting hairs. Anyway, I think if you're not eaten up with PC, Dunham is pretty funny. I don't think he's as broad or obvious as, say, Family Guy.
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Gotcha. Hey there are worse things in the world than Dunham. I can't believe, as a nation, we made Foxworthy and Git-er-Dun millionaires.
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Will get canceled, I hope
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now there's guaranteed to be a Dane Cook show. God help us all
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Yeah, the trailer park comedy tour is not my cup o' tea either, though I don't automatically assume the people who like it are idiots.
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Oct 22, 2009 3:32:19 PM CDT
"I think if you're not eaten up with PC, Dunham is pretty funny"
by smackfu
Woah, woah, woah. By 'PC' do you mean 'Political Correctness?' Are you trying to imply that it is people's sense of Policial Correctness that makes them not like his humor? Because the EXACT OPPOSITE is true. It is safe, obvious humor that does not challenge the viewer or risk offending them in any way. This is like saying someone is 'Too PC' to like Carrot Top. People hate Dunham for the same reason they hate Carrot Top. Because it's safe, corny humor, meant for 8 year olds and 65 year olds. If you enjoy either 'comedian', you might resign to sit yourself down beside a 3 year old and watch jingling car keys.
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ok that was low. Sorry I retract my statement.
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you're substituting successful with good.
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I think Dunham is a pretty talented guy. Comedy Central has just overplayed every single stand-up this man has done. Every other weekend it's either this guy or the Blue Collar Comedy shows. I'll admit Walter still makes me laugh though, but everything else is just tiring.
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You know its surprising how many comedians are still working. But each has there own. Oh and does anyone really care what TV Critics think? I'm prefer more of a "man on the street" review myself. But if someone would have told me when I was kid that if I went to college I could write reviews about shit I see on TV I would've signed up.
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While we're on the subject of humor, can someone explain how this show is supposed to be funny or even good? I catch the reruns in the evening on Comedy Central after Colbert goes off, and I Do. Not. Get. It. Yet, a friend of mine back in college used to try to get me to watch it back in '04-'06. Am I missing something about Scrubs? To me it just sucks.
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Scrubs has a very strange sense of humor about it that is hard to define. I'm not die-hard supporter of the show but I'll occasionally get a chuckle or two out of it. It just strikes a certain chord in some people I guess.
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goes down well with the networks.
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I like his standup, and his show was finally starting to find its rhythm. The only bad thing is that it just makes me miss Mitch Hedberg more. In a perfect world, Mitch would still be alive and hosting his own show on CN following new episodes of Chappelle.
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They have not found a replacement killer yet. Poor Comedy central.
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Or vice versa? I ran across that Web Soup crap once and realized that it's basically the same thing as Tosh 2.0, both of which are just the internet version of Talk Soup. How long can you really keep a show going that makes fun of Youtube clips? Lame.
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otherwise I would have thought I actually enjoyed one of his specials that was on. Now, thanks to the posts that I have read, I now know that I shouldn't have been laughing. Is Dunham a comic genius? No. Does he deserve his own weekly show? No, probably not. Can his ventriloquist act be funny at times? I say yes.
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...once his so-called "movie career" boomed with that recent Ang Lee Woodstock movie. Guess he figured he could graduate from tv to movies. Then again, I don't see much else "in development" on his IMDB filmography. :)
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To hell with the puppet guy.
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About right since it's on G4. Tosh is hilarious.
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Robert Gibbs: The Rahm Emmanuel has decreed that Dunham is no longer funny and that his puppets are insensitive to dead terrorists, gremlins, the elderly and vegetables impaled on sticks.The President says that "to be very clear" he did not know about the decree ahead of time, nor does he necessarily agree or disagree with it at this time. The penalty for open dissent with the spirit of the Imperial Decree will be an undetermined forfeiture of future carbon credits and / or any accumulated health care allowance gift cards. Members of the NEA, UAW, ACORN and all federal employees or elected officials are exempt.
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I know its just a web clip show but he makes me laugh.
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Just as his show (and that pathetic G4 clone) rips off the style and premise of E!'s The Soup (aka Talk Soup).
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Wow. you really shoehorned a bunch of Obama "references" into that post, didn't you?
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I was expecting Scrubs,@ 6, but they're playing fucking Jeff Goddamn Dunham. Then they play his new show FOUR FUCKING TIMES, tonight. WTH? Assholes.
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Oct 22, 2009 6:05:29 PM CDT
I understand if you haven't SEEN Tosh.0, thinking it sucks
by badmrwonka
but it doesn't trust me. it's like your funniest friend sitting and watching hilarious YouTube videos with you. PLUS, the "web redemptions" are a fucking riot.guarantee all you people saying it's a rehash of this or that, have NOT watched it. trust me, it's not Reno 911, but it's funny.
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It's obvious political correctness has too much of atranglehold on Western civilisation if some of you guys can't let yourselves admit to liking Jeff Dunham because he verges on racism, sexism, and homophobia.
NEWSFLASH!! Dave Chappelle did a whole skit about how funny it would be for a white family to have the surname Niggar. Funny as it was (and I'm firmly in the "Chappelle's a genius" camp), he's basically playing to a bunch of white liberals, reiterating and reinforcing the stereotypes of black people loving watermelon and fried chicken, or of black people not wanting to pay their utility bills, etc etc - and because the family is white, the reinforcing of the stereotypes somehow gets a free pass. That's not especially clever, it's making white people laugh at racism and saying it's okay because the guy telling the joke is black.
What Dunham does is to laugh at the absurdities of things that are taken way too seriously in the West these days. Take Achmed - and many have, as it's one of the top five most watched YouTube clips EVER - the Dead Terrorist. When Achmed asks "Are you my virgins?", that's a legitimate joke to make - how do suicide bombers KNOW that their virgins will be what they want them to be? He's poking fun at a belief that is intrinsically absurd to begin with... And that kind of disrespectful comedy is IMPORTANT. Hating this sort of comedy just goes to show how much of a stranglehold political correctness has on us all, especially here in the West, when more than ever we need to LEARN TO LAUGH AT OURSELVES AND GET A FUCKING SENSE OF HUMOUR!!
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that's weak and tired and unfunny to begin with?
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For one episode each! WOO-FUCKING-OOT! :D http://tinyurl.com/yf4bpvy
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Still going to watch it,,, if it's bad I will then change the channel.
I never knew there was so much hatred of Jeff Dunham
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Thank God he's dead...cuz he sucked! Everyone who's bad at what they do deserve to die, to make room for the rest of us...examples include: Ted Kennedy, David Carradine, and George Lucas (on the inside).
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Please, you hate Dunham, granted, some of you hate Dane Cook, so who do you like? Monty Python, Peter Cook, The State, Reno 911, Apatow, Daily Show? Just give some examples?-----later-----m
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My problem with Tosh.O is that it actually gives these webstar idiots another forum to be untalented in. "Oh great, it's the fat girl who fell off the coffee table...let's see her redeem herself." Bullshit...where's my "Important Things with Dimitre Martin"!!!
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yeah Tosh.0 is like this or that show with one huge difference...it has Tosh who..shocker..is funny on a comedy station. As for Dunham, ventriloquist acts are to be done with a distance between performer and audience so I CAN'T SEE YOUR LIPS. Its failed on TV for the last 20 years, and it is the same fucking act. Mitch Hedberg was funny. If you didn't get it just watch Dunham. It is clearly more your speed.
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"dummies have been updated for a RED STATE audience" In other words, dummy humor for dummies.
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So Comedy Central debuts a show about a guy with puppets and the AICN talkbackers manage to turn it into proof that America is a horrible, racist country and that no one has ever had it worst than President Obama. Brilliant, as always.
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And, Demetri (spell it correctly, please) is brilliant. Too bad CC wants to pump up shitty shows, instead of quality ones. Oh, wait. They canceled MST3K. They have no idea how to run a channel.
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WTF Harold? Where am I supposed to make my usual lascivious comments about Pam's preggo mams?
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I don't get it. I didn't believe many people found this guy funny until I read this talkback. I don't care about the PC nonsense, I don't find him offensive, I just find no humor. I have tried watching, but it's so dull. I suppose I'm a little biased as I put ventriloquists in the same category as prop comics, but I have tried to watch a couple of time on CC. Geez, I hate to agree with the goddamn Washington Post, but that review is how I feel - I can't stand Larry the Cable the guy, but I understand how dumb rednecks find his completely fake persona funny, but I don't understand why anybody could laugh at this act. And to the dude trying to compare this ventriloquist to Dave Chappelle... FUCK YOU!
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Pam as a raving bitch is not cool.
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http://tinyurl.com/ylywxyx
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Just wondering if Dunham had him work on the puppets at all
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... actually suggested the show. At least, that's what I heard from George. We're tight, like that.
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Pam as a raving bitch was kinda hot to me. Jim vs. Toby was hilarious. Maybe not puppet funny, but still.
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Yeah, they got that Colbert Stewart shit, and South Park goes on the five or six same ideas every year.
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Get off that "oh woe these talkbacks" bullshit, everyone of those you mentioned deserve all the bile, fucking dane cook, dunham, SNL fucking died in the early 90s. You want to see real support for a GREAT comedian? go to the Richard Pryor biopic tb that was here a week ago, people were praising his comedy left and right.
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i would have very little use for CC.
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Chappelle's show (R.I.P), South Park (losing spark but still funny), It's Always Sunny, Carlin (R.I.P), Eddie Murphy RAW. Tons more 'o' fun but I can't think right now.
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A few comedians:
George Carlin
Louis CK
Jimmy Carr
Patton Oswalt
Bill Burr
Jim Gaffigan
Daniel Tosh
A few shows:
The Office
Arrested Development
Scrubs
Futurama
South Park
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Seinfeld
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
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Ever try sitting through a whole episode with the original cast? Same thing they have always suffered from, a couple of good sketches at the beginning followed by absolutely unwatchable shit.
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so is Nick Swardson and Bobby Lee.
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Do you konw anything about mst3k's history? They gave the show a long life and pretty much let the Brains do whatever they wanted, 7 years on that network, it's not like pulling the plug on Star Trek cancellation. The scifi channel fucked up mst3k.
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No, sorry, political correctness has nothing to do with this. I could give a fuck about how offensive material is. Only children do that. His material is hack garbage. Don't speak for the board either. If they say they don't like it they don't like it.
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Agree with above, uber hotness confirmed.
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Everything Andy did and said was just incredible.
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Actually, read the book and followed the show, religiously, from 1991, on. CC killed it's one flagship program and now has Secret Girlfriend and Jeff Dunham. Big steps forward in content. Sci-Fi SAVED that show.
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It is still alive and well in the Age of Obama.
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Examples of good comedy: Arrested Development, Futurama, The Simpsons (during its golden years- seasons 3 through 9), Curb Your Enthusiasm, Seinfeld, Flight of the Conchords, Extras, The Big Lebowski (obvious, I know, but the ridiculously sharp, subtle and pitch-perfect humor of this film cannot be overstated)...As for stand-up comedians, I think Carlin was, and always will be, the absolute reigning king. Fucking brilliant on so many levels. Louis CK is, by FAR, the best contemporary stand-up out there. Mitch Hedberg was quite clever, as well, and Patton Oswalt is starting to grow on me quite a bit. As far as Dunham goes...I borrowed a couple of DVDs last year from my boss, who insisted that it was hilarious. It wasn't. I don't remember it being TERRIBLE, but I do recall thinking it was slightly clever and mildly funny, at best. And, to be honest, I was probably trying to convince myself that I liked it more than I really did, since I didn't want to hurt the feelings of the person I borrowed it from by having to tell them that I didn't really care for it. Even then, like I said, it was MILDLY funny. At best.
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You know it to be true.
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I can relate, man. People lend me dvd sets and shit all the time. Hoping my "worthy criticism" would actually put them at ease as to whether their taste sucks or not. I have to lie all the time so I don't sound like a total cock.
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...even if some of it isn't funny.
I'm surprised that Viacom hasn't fucked it up like it did MTV and VH-1.
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He wasn't funny the 80's and he isn't funny now. Empty headed morons might find this shit entertaining and lord knows there are enough of them in this country. This is the type of hacky boring unoriginal bullshit comedy that I'd expect to see on Star Search. Oh wait, he was on Star Search. Fuck this no talent hack piece of shit unfunny asshole.
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That's why it's called "Music Television."
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It's the same company/studios/building.
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No dude, that show was my life. Went on the set tours, went to the 1994 convention. Bitching about CC cancelling the show is naive, it was the only possible network at the time to air a 2 hour long episode since it was a young channel. They gave them enough seasons, more than the norm for a show of this type, and the brains always bring up how scifi stuck their nose in with that arc storyline bullshit while the CC guys left them alone.
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he ceased to be a comedian after the 80s, and started shoving messages down about his atheism horeshit, the drugs mixed with his senile brain really caused him to be a deluisional insane rambler.
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Achmed the Terrorist alone is worth watching. Herkimer don't you have some etch-a-sketchings by Hackimer to sell on Amazon.com instead?
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Truly fucking awful at what he does, he is the absolute WORST ventriloquist I have ever seen. Sure with most of them you see their throat move and occasional lip movement, but with this guy you just see him fucking talking in a different voice, no effort to conceal his lips moving.
Guess he's figured out his audience is dumb enough to look purely at the puppet and not take in the whole image. Strassman, and in the UK Nina Conti are both FAR better, and don't rely on stupid safe stereotyping to make a routine funny...the puppets are actual characters rather than gimmicks. Dunham is no genius, he's mediocre in the extreme. -
He's had the highest selling comedy dvd in a while as well? Do blue collar comedy fans parents buy this shit for their kids? I mean even that guy who won Americas Got Talent (Terry Fador) was at least a good ventriloquist.
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But in order to keep riffing and doing what they loved, they agreed to do it. If they had been assholes about it, everyone would have missed out on Rowsdower (or however you spell it) and some truly great and funny episodes.
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that the pro-Dunham people in this thread are accusing the people who don't like him of not having a sense of humor lol. When the fact that we actually DO have a sense of humor is what prevents us from enjoying things like Dunham, Dane Cook and Carrot Top. These acts require you to have a very simple sense of humor to enjoy, hence my 'jingling keys' reference.
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Dunham is not funny. Puppets are not funny, but muppets are funny. Triumph is not funny because he's a puppet, he's funny because he says some hilarious shit. Dunham's creations are "funny" (to only some) because a puppet is talking to them. I pity anyone who thinks this is anything other than retard humor.
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Dunham's political jokes don't offend me, I say we need more people making fun of middle-eastern terrorists- gives them less power; its just that he's the kinda of hacky comedian that gives Jay Leno his power.
For the record, people aren't making fun of Obama because he's black, Dunham does what comedians have been doing for generations, making fun of the President. Dumb asses. -
And George Carlin was brilliant up to the day he died. Pity for those that didn't see that.
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We actually agree a lot on what we find funny. I too think Carlin and Pryor are the best ever. To me they are tied, since they were working at the same time. I also like pre-Season 11 Simpsons, Futurama, Chris Rock, Mitch Hedberg.The only Dunham character I find funny is Peanut. And all he is really doing is combining The Muppets' Ralph the Dog, Fozzie Bear, Miss Piggy & Animal. Jose on a Stick is an old Senior Wences bit ("s'all right"). SoI agree, Dunham is really just a hack, and this show was just ripping off "The Muppet Movie" and "The Muppets Take Manhattan."Watching your family laugh at something you don't find funny I get too guys. My grandparents loved "Hee-Haw." My dad (their son-in-law) prefered "Laugh-In" and "Flip Wilson Show." My cousins would say things like "pickin' and grinnin'" while I would roll my eyes. Thanks to inheriting my dad's sense of humor I was watching SNL by 1978, and when the original gang left in 1980, I fell in love with Larry David and Michael Richards' competing sketch show "Fridays." Melanie Chartoff made feel funny things in my pants.-----later----m
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I loved "Fridays." As a kid, I always thought I was breaking the rules hiding in my room and watching that show. (Porn came later)
I used to like Carlin back in the day, but he spent so many years merely spewing venom. I liked the side of his act that was more observational and ironic. But, I guess it worked for some.
Ten years before he died, I saw him in Vegas and he acted like a washed up, braindead drug addict. He phoned in the whole performance basically and even went as far as to use note cards to try and remember his punchlines, still stuttering and failing miserably. When he told us he was basically using us to iron out some things he wasn't sure he could remember to say on the Leno show in a couple of days, he definitely lost a fan in this guy. -
Is a bad Steven Wright, with maybe a little more material. Is a bad Steven Wright, with maybe a little more material. Good comedians right now: Nick Griffin, Greer Barnes and Kyle Dunnigan. Most likely to be the next Dane Cook: Nick Swardson
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I shit you not. She did the same act, it was on one of her 1970's comedy specials. Everyone steals, the key in what way do you steal, and how well you do it.-----later-----m
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Anyways. This guy baffles me. He's had some Comedy Central Presents type specials before, and I saw him there over the past few years. Everyone is right on in that a good chunk of his characters are just stereotypes (either racial like his pimp agent, or just cliche like 'cranky old guy'). Whats kind of funny is that he really is good at his chosen profession. He's a great ventriloquist and didn't move his mouth too much when I saw him. Whats funny is that no one cares about ventriloquists unless you happen to be a Batman villain as well. They're one step above mimes on the entertainment totem pole.
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I'm just going off the CD's I've got near me. Stephen Lynch, David Cross, Mitch Hedberg, Brian Posehn, Patton Oswalt, Steven Wright, Bo Burnham, Nick Swardson, Lewis Black, Lonely Island.
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Jazzgalaxy is absolutely on point about the racists and right-wingers running amuck these days. And I have seen Dunham's act a few times, and the bottom line is that he commits the cardinal sin of comedy - HE'S NOT FUNNY!!!
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I like their scifi shows as well, the msties usually fall into that slippery slope feeling of because something is less better than something else it MUST be shit. scifi may not have been as good as the cc years but it was still good... becuase its mst.
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Carlin the best? Okay i can accept that if you're talking 60s-80s period. But funny till the day he died? No, he ceased to be a comedian somewhere in the 90s and became an angry deluded rambler, i watched one of his standups from a few years ago and he was talking about how awful government and religion is, making fart noises and dropping loads of swearing, it just got depressing and annoying with his batshit tinfoil messages.
Richard Pryor is tops for me and many's as well. -
Nick Swardson's last special was on a week or so ago and it was alright but i fear he is slowly becoming more like Dane Cook, too much of that frat humor which wasn't so with him before. I guess he's trying to tap into that demographic. When he did a little finger typing motion when talking about facebook he became Dane right there. Still at least he isn't as seedy as that creepy fucker.
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I thought he was funny til the end. He held up great over the years. Just because you don't like every thing the man did you condemn him? Fuck you, you whinny piece of shit.
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I specifically said post-80s. so fuck YOU. If anyone was whining toward the end it was Carlin.
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Carlin was great till the end and if his religious/government rants pissed you off, you missed his fucking point! And if you get offended by his swearing, grow some balls and stop listening to your church group.
I will never understand how people can do the worst acts to animals and their fellow man, yet get offended at a 'Fuck' or a 'shit.' Retarded.
He was never washed up and always a forward thinker. I saw him in concert in 1995, funny as hell; opened with fart jokes and closed with the bit about losing stuff. Brilliant. -
Wasn't funny on Star Search (He beat Chappelle) Wasn't funny on television shows after (Especially Weinerville). Is still not funny.I like his nigger puppet though. Good old racism. Shit, he does that in blackface, and he's a fucking genius of Ted Danson-like proportions. This of course, is sarcasm. I mean, the man's got a fucking pimp puppet.
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You and I...we are very similar. I'd add Blaine Kepatch (sp?) to that. THe guy's really funny. Also, if you can get your hands on Jon Stewart's standup from back in 99 or 2000...FUCKING HILARIOUS.
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Would that have been the Bob & Tom Show?
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