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Marvel's Joe Quesada Talks THE FIRST AVENGER: CAPTAIN AMERICA Movie, Marvel Film Continuity, And More!!
Merrick here...
Marvel EIC Joe Quesada, not to be confused with singer Jon Secada...
...had a panel at the recent Big Apple Comic-Con, where he discussed the status of the CAPTAIN AMERICA script. Not surprisingly, he's really excited about the direction it's taking.
ticking with Hollywood, Quesada offered a brief update on "The First Avenger: Captain America," with which he's had some involvement. "I've seen a couple of outlines and an initial screenplay, and it's going to rock everyone's socks off," he said. "It's very unexpected, the kind of movie it is." Quesada added that "Captain America" sets up "The Avengers" in "a fantastic way"
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Quesada was asked if some Marvel characters work better on film than others. He used Blade as an example of a character that works very well on film but not as well in comic books. The same fan asked Quesada if he believed that continuity could truly be established from film to film, prompting the editor-in-chief to identify Marvel Studios' current lead-up to "The Avengers" as proof that it's possible. "It won't be the same exact continuity from the comics, but it'll feel very much like the Marvel continuity," he said.
...said Quesada, per THIS write-up over at Comic Book Resources. In the piece, Quesada goes on to indicate Marvel differentiates itself from other comic publishers by "not sucking."
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Quesada was asked if some Marvel characters work better on film than others. He used Blade as an example of a character that works very well on film but not as well in comic books. The same fan asked Quesada if he believed that continuity could truly be established from film to film, prompting the editor-in-chief to identify Marvel Studios' current lead-up to "The Avengers" as proof that it's possible. "It won't be the same exact continuity from the comics, but it'll feel very much like the Marvel continuity," he said.
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Never knew Christopher Lee reached the apex of his acting career with that appearance. Sweet.
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Cynical, apathetic, and more than a little drunk. I'd watch THAT film.
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Love the indecision by Reb. Will he accept..or refuse????I can't believe I've never seen these before. Bad pillow.
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How ridiculously awesome is it that back before CG and awesome special effects, cinema's only way to make a superhero movie was to show how extreme and powerful they are by doing things any basic human can do, like ride thorugh a fence on a motorcycle or run down the neck of a crane and jump off. The only difference is they were wearing an awesome costume. That shit is awesome. They had no capability to do any of the awesome stuff I'm sure they imagined. Love it.
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We hammered hard at this script, because CAP is essentiall the first act of an Avengers film, it's going to be great, you guys are going to love what we did...casting announcment is coming very soon, i'll also have a big Batman 3 scoop for you in the coming weeks as well
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to something less lame? Having "The First Avenger" in the title is useless, no one is going to use it. How many people do you know said "let's go see X-Men Origins: Wolverine"? Everyone called it Wolverine anyway, so just title it that. Now that at least makes some kind of sense as they could do several "X-Men Origins" movies; other than Captain America, how many "The First Avenger" movies are they going to do?
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Oct 21, 2009 10:24:56 AM CDT
Not sucking? From the guy who brought us ONE MORE DAY? xDDD
by ronimus prime
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The dude is working on EVERY FUCKING SCRIPT. You name the movie, he's it on it. He's like the fucking A-rod of script writing this year. Go ahead, lob any movie idea his way, and *BAM* he knocks the fucker out of the ball park with his kick ass script writing skilz.
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Thor is risky, let's face it. If Iron Man 2 is weak, (it can happen Spiderman 3 anyone?) Captain America will be fighting the Red Skull in Development Hell.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs8rFsmhNTc
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I agree. Ordinary dudes wearing funny looking costumes who did nothing special is the way to go...old school. Like Eddie Shore.
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so what did Wolverine:Origin do....suck.(both the movie and comic) You have turned a once proud comic universe into something that most of your target audience(kids) can not afford. When I was young I could collect the whole universe on my lunch money and allowance. Not anymore. and you said in an interview that maybe comics should "cost more..."???? YOU suck, Joe Q. Die.
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Bonds Sosa Rodriguez Ortiz McGuire Clemens Pettite...Rogers? Oh in that case it's ok then.
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Oct 21, 2009 10:33:27 AM CDT
Wolverine: Origin - Suck. One More Day - Suck. Civil War - ULTRA
by ninjarap
Marvel differentiates itself by sucking the hardest of them all.
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I will have to disagree, since the '90 flick actually had explosions and such. Plus the costume was 10 times better than the original Capt. America in the '70's. Did you see that first movie's trailer? Costume looked nothing like it should. Now *that's* quality.
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Have you seen the mass amount of crossover story arches and lame ass ideas this guys allowed to slip into the books? God, it's like the 90s comic crisis all over again.
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Or, at the very least, switch it to CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER? Have we become so ashamed of our country that we can't even call a Captain America movie CAPTAIN AMERICA?
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So Ed Norton's going to be coming back for The Avengers, then? Good luck maintaining that little point of continuity.
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The world demands Team America World Police 2
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Just like Remo Williams, and that turned out to be a successful and long-lasting film franchise.
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when Marvel keep chopping and changing players and move from sequels to reboots and back again? i can see this all collapsing under the weight of it's own hype.
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Hehe, rented WOLVERINE on Blu yesterday. I think maybe it plays better at home with a beer and a pizza than at theatres, because it was more enjoyable than I thought it'd be.
That said, still a pretty witless movie. Somehow Wolverine overhears Stryker say 'wipe his memory' (must have superhearing cos he's submerged in fluid and 20 meters away). Wolvie jumps out the tank - and suddenly Stryker is saying 'kill him'. wtf!? Stryker's only spent a gazillion dollars and gone to extraordinary lengths to get hold of meteorite metal 'adamantium', but 30 seconds after a successful operation he's like fuck it, kill him.
Next Strykers helicoptor guys give chase and try to kill Wolvie by shooting him with bullets? What? Bullets didn't even harm him before the adamantium? Why the fuck would they think they would hurt him now???
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John C. Reilly can show him the ropes in a series of odd and uncomfortable trailers.
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From the 1990 abortion
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With puppets! And American nationalism going completely overboard! And lots of ignorant durka-durka xenophobia too! It'll be the funniest thing to air outside the US, well, since Team America actually.
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Too many lead characters in one film - Marvel has no clue how to write for more than 2 characters, max. Take Spiderman 3 as an example. but let's even forget story - seeing that what most of you do when you see a film judging by the success of Transformers, Marvel and countless rehashed Vampire takes, even if we leave story aside - the cheese factor of seeing a group of Superheroes is something that will make Avengers fail - why do you think DC abandoned Justice League - they took a look at the test shots and said "fuck that". X-men only worked because most people had no idea who these people were and they have always been packaged in a group. trust me - this will make money off of all the comic con dweebs - but for those who have even spent one summer vacation in the real world - it'll look like shit
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Oct 21, 2009 11:08:12 AM CDT
Joe Q. makes me miss the class and diginty of Paul Levitz
by falafalguy
Just cause your books sell, doesn't mean they are good or you should be proud of them.
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it would near next to impossible to write every script out there, i only chose a select few, but a laso am a script doctor for alot of productions goiong on, and i also have a lot of friends so i'm privy to alot of information. I was part of the team that write Cap, but my time no is mostly spend of writting and planning Batman 3 with Chris, john and David. I was also asked to input some ideas for the batmobile..it's a gamechanger
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Unless this thing is The Toxic Avengers-I will not be happy
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Dr. David Keel, surely?
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Disney oughtta fire him, and put Brad Bird in his place...
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Do you know George Lucas?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Britain
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Those old Captain America movies should be out on DVD. I had them on tape as a kid and loved them, the first one took forever for him to get suited up (which is what you wait for as a kid), but the second one was awesome.
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Captain America (the smart awesome ass kicker), Captain Britain ( the holier than thou tea drinker) and Captain Canuck (the retard). it would be all sorts of awesome.
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Out of the 3 Avenger solos, Cap has to be my favorite. I was hoping by now they would have some casting news though.
And Quesada had nothing to do with Wolverine, Marvel didnt have much to do with that movie either. I think all of the films coming out of Marvels on film group will be what we want. -
No, sorry. Richard Benson.
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Dr. David Keel = second Avenger. John Steed = third Avenger.
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...'will feel like Marvel continuity'. Marvel comics has continuity? Sure for about 6 months at a time. Oh, hello Harry Osborn. But I digress, Marvel in-their-own- continuity movies are something to genuinely be excited about.
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Captain America - biggest piece of shit superhero film EVER. & JettL93 ... you're a dick
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"X-Men: Origins: Wolverine is going to knock everyone's socks off!"
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seriously man, whats your name - if you are as awesome as you claim then you can be googled. but judging by the 93 in your name you'r just a 16 year old troll... the likes of which have been seen many times before
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Oct 21, 2009 12:05:30 PM CDT
Even as a small child, I knew those Cap TV movies sucked.
by rev_skarekroe
I mean, come on. He wears a motorcycle helmet the entire time!
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I wonder if it will be the Red Skull? I hope they do the whole frozen in ice for decades plot.
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you're only going to confuse the general audience. they're trying to 'build' towards the Avengers movie, but that title is clumsy as hell. people know who Captain America is. just call it that for chrissakes
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that he'd never take his damn motorcycle helmet off!
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93 is the number of scripts he sold last year!
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Once again, you have proven yourself the most gullible talkbacker ever. JettL is a master of TB comedy and everyone gets it but you. You're also the guy who believes in stars forming at the earth's core and aliens living on Venus and all kinds of other bizarre and retarded shit. Do you see a connection there in the way you perceive reality at all?
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Joe Quesada is an idiot. Blade would work fine as a comic book just like it did as a movie. He just hasn't found anyone good enough to write a valid Blade comic story. Idiot!
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Seriously - don't post this crap; it is a complete waste of everyone's time. "Cap will rock! There will be continuity!" The fuck?
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Sadly, I'm aware of "the real" Captain Britain. I prefer my version though. He's edgy ;)
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I remember reading Captain America when I was younger and wondering how in the world this character was a representative of being "Mr. USA" without any uproar regarding his origins involving the "super soldier syrum" or as it was bluntly referred to in that trailer, the "ultimate steroid". I'm no activist nor do I want to use talkback to carry any personal opinions about steroid or any other drug use or abuse but on a political note I would have just assumed that some congressman or parent group would have come down on Marvel decades ago demanding a "re-do" of how the man who represents America attained his "gift". With all that aside I am looking forward to this film and if they did look at such a factor I would hope that fans wouldn't get offended in a change in origin since we've seen it done with other super heroes for less important reasons (i.e. spidermans shooting webs opposed to having to make web blasters).
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But that death too soon trailer looks like the tits now.
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Was at a Tempe, AZ screening of "Starship Troopers" last week where Casper Van Dien received an International Horror & Sci-Fi Film Festival Hall of Fame Award. At the autograph signing afterward, I asked him if anyone had talked to him about possibly doing Captain America. He replied, "No...but I've seen a lot of rumors around on-line. But I'd LOVE to do it...so keep talking it up!"
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I can only assume that you are posting on your blackberry due to all the grammatical errors.
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jackalcack - yes i do know george, i was originally part of the crew that worked on the Special edition resotarion and i then did storyboards and a script analysis for indy 4. I'm not saying he's my best friend, but yes he would know who i was if you asked him
BendershinyAss - I picked a random username so that people won't know who i am (the 93 is not my birth year but it hold another meaning to me) i have a career to withhold i don't want it known i kiss and tell. I'm a fanboy at heart myself so thats why i come her and give you guys these awesome scoops. and to be honest, i've left enough clues that you could probabaly figure out who i am.The good folks who run AICN know who i am, and i've been very happy they haven't blown my cover (even when one of my films got a sever beating on here a few months ago). I have alot of pull in the business and in fact based on some of your rants on my films, you'd probabaly go postal if you knew who you have actually made friends with. Now get out there and buy a second copy of Transformers 2, you'll see me in the extras -
I still say Ryan Gosling (again, if you haven't seen the believer, see it) with Chris Evans as a distant second.
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We are in the presence of an almost mythical script doctor (think of the House dude, but, ya know, busting out scripts). Take your back your "dick" comment to Jett and say you are sorry.
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The doctor is in!
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Sort of sound Amber Waves from Boogie Nights, when she is narrating the Dirk Diggler Documentry???
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Bring her back!
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We don't even have to get into all the shit he's pulled with Marvel Comics in recent years (coughBrandNewDaycough). Dude said the Elektra movie was going to be awesome. I trust his opinion about as much as I trust Memphisto.
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No offense to my American friends, but seriously - there is nothing cool about Captain America, from his lame ass "super powers" to his ridiculous uniform... I loath this character. As an aside, Thor is also retarded.
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Don't know why they dumbed it down, removed Daredevil and bullseye from the story and gave us what they gave usPerhaps Joe Quesadia was referring to the first script when he said it was going to be amazing
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it is going to be pretty silly having two avengers running around the screen with wings sticking out of their heads. Putting Thor in this was a big mistake - I'm glad Favreau went on record about having trouble folding him in with IM. The more I think about Avengers, the more I can see looking like a gay comedy in a few years time, if not opening night.
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Are you fucking 'tarded? Cap's abilities is the pinnacle of human perfection and I'm more impressed with someone who doesn't have fancy shmancy powers, but instead battle savvy and who can hold his own against nearly impossible odds.(i.e. going toe to toe with say, Mr. Hyde,Baron Blood,Modok and yes even Iron Man.If you ask me, Cap is more revelant than the overhyped wolverine.As for the rediculous uniform, it's basically the American Flag but with a cool design from the chainmail tunic to the buccaneer boots. wtf did you expect blue and yellow spandex.Yes, you are just another prime example of America bashing.
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The more of these live action superhero films that I see, the more I think a lot of these characters should stay in cartoon form. If they could up the graphics a bit from the level of Marvel Ultimate Alliance story segments I 'd buy it and be happy. It looks cool and works within it's world. Individually all of those characters are iffy when done live; throw them together in our world with actors in suits and it's just ridiculous. I say we could use some high end adult animation back on the big screen anyway.
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Is that they've been taking their inspiration from the pre-Quesada years. The inclusion of "Ultimate" Nick Fury is a disturbing sign that this might begin to change, and I predict the success of the movies will change as a result. Quesada's Marvel really appealed to the hardcore, 30ish, post-deconstructed superhero comic fans. So far, the movies that work have stayed well away from the cynical modern takes. Iron Man from the movies is pretty idealistic. Iron Man from Quesada's Marvel is just a total dick.
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Did your script analysis of Indy 4 happen to include the words "sucks," "blows," "stupid," "awful," etc? If not, you weren't doing your job as a human being, because that movie sucked Jolly Green Giant balls.
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He's far down on the list, but he's still on the list of about 15 actorsI personally love the Josh Lucas test footage but in the end its up to director Joe Johnston on who gets cast as the Cap
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You're defending JettL93?!?!? As funny?!??! Wow, dude. Your sense of humor seems to have been "formed at the earth's core" and then "spent some time on Venus." A master of comedy? JettL93? His schtick is about as limp and tired as your boyfriend's dick.I'm no obsequious fan of Bender's Shiny Ass, but JettL93? Seriously? Fuck, man. Just fuck.
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"Marvel EIC Joe Quesada, not to be confused with singer Jon Secada." Har de har har. Ugh. Die in a fire.
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For casting are Ryan McPartlin and Jason Lewis, both reasonably competent actors who are dead ringers for some of the past visual representations of Cap in the comics. Comics are a visual medium and getting the look of the character right is a huge part of it. Just surround them with dependable talents like the Donner SM movie.I think Marvel gets it though. As long as they present the material unapologetically and as-is, as they did with Iron Man, this will do just fine.
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So the movie is going staight to dvd? Like MegaShark vs Giant Octopus?
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Gallagher. Only about 1/100 as funny. How many fucking times can you tell the same fucking joke (just substituting scripts, productions, and principals) and still be "funny" to some?Hey, did you hear the one about the Jew/Irishman/Pope/Pollack/Catholic/traveling salesman/Southerner/Italian/Christian/Muslim/African American/Indian/middle-aged white dude/lesbian/homosexual/blonde?Yeah, right. Wrecked 'im? Damn near killed him! Bwahahahaha...So funny. Please stop with the hilarity before I die laughing.
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and i publically said after the movie came out that my suggestions were obviously thrown out. I spoke to george about it after words and he just said that they had several people look at the script and took all of those suggestions and ideas and mixed them together to better the sript..unfortunetly not all of the ideas could be facilitatedthe only thing of mine that made final was having MAc be a traitor, but Lucas took that idea and messed with it (i orginally had Mac a good guy up to the last half of the film, Luicas took that idea and made him switch from good to bad 40 times in the movie...or what felt like 40)
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I think you've actually identified the problem with Cap. It would be impossible for anyone even at the peak of human perfection and no matter how battle savvy to go up against the likes of Modok or IM. That's always the problem with Cap and to some degree Batman - they're supposed to just be human but still do things no human could possibly do.
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Stop. Please stop. It was funny the first 10 times, now it's just annoying. There are only a handful of talkbackers whose shtick is consistently funny. One of them is TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION. No one believes your horseshit. You are not funny or creative, you're just a giant pain in the ass.
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I do like his uniform. I'm not sure they can make a live action version that looks cool though.
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Now that Disney owns marvel, I wonder what other mouse ears I can get.
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The final box office take of Indy 4 would seem to indicate that Lucas was "right" in the decisions he made, but that film will never be confused with anything that even approaches art. I'll never watch that movie again, and it will never, ever taint my personal library (and I've got some straight-up shit in my library).
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I have to agree on the uniform. It may seem like a sacrilege to change it but it would look kinda ridiculous in real life. It would be like if they tried to incorporate Wolverine's yellow and blue costume into the movies. It would just look silly.
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and give 'em that top-notch Pixar look. It's the only way to make characters like Cap, Thor and the Avengers work. Iron Man is an excepion because the character is so tech based, ala Robocop.
Didja see the cut scenes in the first Marvel Alliance game? That's the direction to go in. Cap will never work as a live action film. And Joe Q is the very definition of hack. This man has been directly responsible for more dreck than any other Editor in Chief in Marvel's history. Point of fact, ALL Marvel Comics does is suck, Joe. You've been publishing junk for years and years - essentially urinating all over the brilliant foundation laid down by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Marvel Comics makes niche market collectibles targeted toward 30-40 year olds when once it was a thrilling source of entertainment for all ages. You should be ashamed of yourself, Quesada. -
..would probably draw more people in, because in this day and age of putting everyone in black leather/latex, it will give the film a unique appeal. See Iron man/Spider-man as references.
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First of all, it sucks. Second of all, do you honestly think changing the name of the film is somehow going to make it more palatable to overseas audiences? "Oy mates, let's go see that new FIRST AVENGER flick!" "What exactly is he avenging?" "I don't know, but he's the first!" Yeah, I know America is just one country, and I know our international PR isn't so hot right now, but the character is what it is; you're not going to trick people into seeing it if you change the title. Plus, the name "Captain America" is actually kind of badass. The First Avenger, on the other hand, is even more retarded a superhero name than The Avengers, which is already pretty retarded as it is (and unintentionally hilarious when you take into account the fact that America was actually the LAST country to become involved in World War II).
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Good point on Iron Man and Spider-man. Now that I think about it, just removing the giant A would go a long way to reduce the silliness of the costume in a live-action flick.
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if people don't belive my scoops then fine, don't believe them, but seriously guys the harry, quint, merrick all are aware of who i am, that is why they have allowed me to post these awesome scoops. And box office doesn't always exuate good movie, i mean just look aat Gi joe..i mean in the case of something like transformers 2 then yeah, i made a great movie and it was well received
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I participated in T2, but it's not like i could take sole credit like a director or something. i only wish i was as talent as Micheal Bay
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I know it's a bit late, but, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. I can remember back in the day when ten bucks a month got you a crapload of funnybooks - Marvel or DC.
I also remember when I started getting the whillies about proce jacking when I read a liner note in a Marvel book that said (.25 .50 .75 a dollar. All for Marvel stand up and holler!)
I stopped buying back in the 80's when that multi-cover shit started.
Whores pretty much sums it up.
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...that pretty much says it all right there. Also, you keep going on about the "scoops" you've contributed to this site. If you don't mind my asking (and I'm guessing you don't mind anything that gives you more attention), what scoops are you talking about? Saying "Captain America casting news will probably happen relatively soon" does not constitute a breaking news bulletin.
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TF2 was a bag of shit, Indy4 was a bag of shit and you really haven't given anyone any scoops that could be confirmed. If you were so prolific in the industry as you say you are, you really wouldn't be on here every single day. You need to be in a padded cell my friend. It was amusing at first, now it's sad.
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and do us a favour and ask one of the administrators on he site to back you up. I don't think they'll have a problem showing a small article for a big shot like you
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Not too mention i posted that ryan renolds had been cast as green lantern back when all of you were still saying that sac lunch from wedding crashers had the role.also not to mention my justin timberlake as flash confirmation, and my josh lucas as Cap america and even go further and remind you that i was the first to break the news that superman is appearing in green lantern and Jackie Earle Hailey is sinsestro...where do you think Harry got that info
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have to do is to get one of AICN's administrators to acknowledge you are who you say you are and i will apologise. I'm big enough to admit when i'm wrong. A man with your sort of muscle should easily get that done.
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Oct 21, 2009 2:31:36 PM CDT
I don't have a problem with 'the first avenger' title..
by chronicallydepressedlemming
..but I DO find it odd that this hero hasn't had his name changed. I mean Captain America? It sounds cheesy even for a comic book. And his outfit is fucking daft as well.If he was called Captain Avenger or Captain Freedom or something, and just had the star symbol on blue without those daft flag stripes that look like they are a fucking girdle, then he could be pretty cool.
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damned-dirty-ape- I wouldn't hold your breath for that one. He most likely just gets a kick out of all the responses to his "scoops" and will continue to do so as long as he continues to get responses. I engaged in similar behavior when I was 15 and discovered the Internet. If you don't see any of the admins back him up then you know he's full of shit and we can just ignore him with the rest of the trolls.
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I just wish JettL would go away. I really do think he has some sort of mental imbalance.
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.....that's going to look so cool. It's going to take 2 hours of very creative lighting to make this work. It's going to be sooooo believable!
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Thank Jesus H Christ someone at Marvel Studios got their heads together and pulled the Marvel world together! Can't wait to see Cap, Spidey, Bats, and Wolvie squaring up for some real good fighting. Loved the Wolverine film - very clever with the claws I thought - My cousin bring this film back from Europe on DVD like last month! Awesome. Some of the effects were not so hot and I think too many of the women looked like lesbianos. Oh well you can not have everything. I gues they do not have anyone to play Cap yet, here's my cast: Captain America - Keefer Sutherland (with CGI) The girl - Angelina Jolie The Red Baron - Henson workshop (and CGI) The Avengers - Dan Shanks, Robert Junior, and Chrsitian Bale (or maybe Craig Daniels).
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...just sound like bad ideas, be they Justice League or Avengers, or whatever. One guy in a costume fighting villians can obviously be made to work in a live-action dramatic piece, but a whole group? I just can't see it...
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You are blind harry
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I know what you mean. Each director has/ will have created their own stylised version of the marvel characters in their own universe, but incorporating each character into a single one really can't be an easy job
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Oct 21, 2009 2:52:47 PM CDT
What an idiot! Does he really think bone claws don't suck?
by crazybubba
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harry is going to back up not who i am, but that i am someone who's inside the bizBut honestly you guys don't seem to be interested so speak up now, if i get a majority of you not wanting me here then i'll leave, plenty of other movie sits that will appreciate my scoops
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If he actually does, not only would I find that hilarious but you'd have my apologies for not believing you.
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Us true geeks love to know all the Hollywood stories! I want to know what is happening with the new Zorro film? They should go back to the source material and show him how we love him - an big mask and moustache! Keep the Querros away from this movie franchise JettL93. Do you know what the state of production is yet? Last I knew they had rejected my script that I sent to Stan Lee, I have sent it agin last year so should be hearing soon.
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marketing purposes in order to package/promote/sell/setup the avengers franchise. Marvel is a fucking corporation and beholden to shareholders, so they're all about branding. Subtitles strenghten brand ties, so it's got nothing to do with creative integrity. Just sayin
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if you have that i can check on the progress of your script, it should have been in the rejection letter, i think it's 7 or 8 letters followed by a 3 digit numerical codeIf you get me that i can see how your script is doing
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ofc we want to hear your inside info of the show biz.
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you don't have to be the coolest guy in the world to make IM look badass - the suit makes its own gravy. But to make Thor look cool? Or Cap? I don't know - I don't think there are many guys who can pull it off. Those little wings, that stupid forehead A...cool in the books, lame on screen.
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You are a good man - however I did not get a letter. I sent the script Zorro 3: The Killing Day, to Stan Lee an the 15th of Novemeber 2005. On the 2nd of December I realize that I missed quite a few scenes out so I sent him the missing scenes. On the 20th of January I sent another letter with an outline for Zorro 4: The killing zone. Two weeks later I recieve a letter from a cousin but not Stan Lee. That summer we go on the universal studios tour but I could not find Stan Lee (but we had a great time - so good my cousin Esteban still lives in Hollywood). After waiting for so long I phone Marvel who say they are not wanting to talk with me. I guess that someone else may be making Zorro 3: The Killing Day.
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Oh, please...
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I hate to say it. He's really one of the great comics characters, but there's no way you can pull this guy off in a movie. The wings? The A? The red buccaneer boots? The shield? If they're going to put him on the big screen then prepare for a wholesale revision.
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in the current Brubaker/Epting run, and you'll have a winner.
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First of all, I'm not so sure subtitle "branding" doesn't work *against* a film sometimes (though it's hard to be unbiased on that score in this corner of the Internet). It's certainly not necessary to establish a franchise. Case in point: The Dark Knight became not only the highest-grossing comic book film of all-time, but the second-highest-grossing film of all time, period, and all without having to change the title to "Batman Returns 2: The Dark Knight: The Rise of the Joker."
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just make him wear a convert military uniform which it will resemble the classic cap america uniform,but at the same time it will look realistic.if i am not mistaken the ultimate cap wears a blue military helmet,which looks more modern and realistic and less cheesy.
ofc the problem is the colour,u cant have him in a convert uniform with blue and red colours,but again thats not a problem.the uniform might have some thing,light red/blu lines,or something,ask some famous fashion designer to help with this shit. -
anti-doping control.they might not like the fact that a movie aimed mainly at kids,promotes the use of anabolics,because lets face it captain america is the first comic hero who took his powers from body enhanced 'juice' . just kidding..
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gay on the big screen.
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The First Avenger: Captain America, almost like every marvel character being put in to the Avengers movie needs a pre-title (Second Avenger: Iron Man). Just call it Captain Ameri....OHHHHHH i get it, if you just put Captain America it becomes a pro-America thing (ya know, like that whole G.I Joe tiff other countries had). Fuck it i still think it could be pre-titled or subtitled something different, "Captain America: Kicking Faces Asses Since WW2"
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"The Reluctant Avenger: Hulk"
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or as the first member of the team? but if i am not mistaken he was the last one who was added in the team,after they found his frozen body.
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LMAO, I'd buy a ticket to that day 1
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Isn't the United States considered to be embarrasing to Hollywood's liberal elite? I know they took the Real American Hero out of GI Joe and turned it into a United Nations unit. So will Captain America be changed to Captain Earth? Or Captain UN?
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aka no one will see this film
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Only here, unlike his films, he brings his A game.
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because, in my opinion, of what he ultimately represents. And what he represents, at his core, is sacrifice. More so than representing America as a nation or American ideals, he represents the will to put others and the good of the entire world before himself and his needs. To fight, and if necessary, to die for a cause he knows is just and right. There's a reason why the WWII generation was called "The Greatest Generation", and he is the idealized version of their character, courage, and selflessness. Remember, the key to this movie isn't what a costume looks like or how well it ties into the Avengers (which hopefully will rock), it's capturing the character of Steve Rogers. He wanted so bad to fight in the war, that evn after he was refused for being in sickly condition, he was willing to sacrifice his body, and possibly his life, to test out the experimental super soldier serum. He just wanted to do ANYTHING to help, and through that he became Captain America. He's Marvel's most important character, he's essentially their Superman (not speaking in terms of power, of course). His power is basically to be stronger than the average human, but his real strength lies in his mind, his battlefield strategy, and his ability to bounce a shield off of 7 nazi's faces and have it somehow return to him. He rules. And his costume kicks ass.
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"I participated in T2, but it's not like i could take sole credit like a director or something. i only wish i was as talent as Micheal Bay"Ya know who JettL is, despite the misdirection? Michael Fucking Bay! Only Bay would say on a public forum full of movie nerds that Bay had talent, and Bob being Bob, has no problem showing up undisguised for his masochism driven appearances. No..it is Bay. It is well known the mans Narcissism has no bounds and is only rivaled by his love of high quality pharmaceudicals...he is a true connoisseor.
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More people would want to see it.
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Foxs "Box"...Tangy and thick like a delicious Indian Lasse, or sweet and thin like a hot spring of sugary nectar?
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no way man, that guy is too cool to come to this site
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... make you think it'd be ironic fun to sit and watch Cap I & II, then the old Spider-Man, maybe mix i n soem Bill Bixby Hulk and possible '90 Cap, then some Corman FF, but they truly are awful and impossible to sit through. Only HULK holds up or has any gravitas at all. A 75-second trailer is about all you can watch of any of these without vomiting in terror. Imho.
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As in Spider-man 3?
As in either of the Fantastic 4?
As in the close call with Wolverine?
As in X-Men 3?
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Who gives a shit? It's obviously jsut meant as a tie-in for the other upcomign films; Avenger- Thor. Avengers- Ant-Man. Whatever. They could call it Pile of Dogshit but if Capt. American's in it I'll go see it. And for those my age, Cap had a SUPERIOR run in the mid-to-late-80's under John Byrne and Mike Zeck. Really good stuff. Check them out, check them outers.
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I suspect he and Wasp will be introduced in the actual Avengers film, along with hints and easter eggs that elude to The Vision, The Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye.
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C'mon, most comicbook characters are a bit exagerrated when going against the odds.(i.e. in secret wars, in which Dr. Doom steals The beyonder's powers,Spiderman beating the shit outta firelord..who was a hearld of galactus?!?)sure cap in prolly on the same level as Bats and DD, but he's still able to hold his own and not to mention a superb combat tactician,ergo he was the leader of the Avengers for sooo many years and not Thor or IM or even the battle hardended wolverine.as for the costume to movie transition,Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 looks like a more accurate idea of what cap would look on the big screen.The "A" pwns! and the buccaneer boots can be modified, just don't make his costume black like every other superhero film.
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but I really hope I'm wrong.
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Reb Brown had the kick-ass build required and was a perfectly capable actor to boot. I grew up watching these things and as atrocious as they can be Brown portrayed Steve Rogers very loyal to what a fan of the comic would expect, simple and decent.
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America is still taking a beating overseas and these Hollywood types are looking at selling a movie about an American patriot overseas, not just here. They have to come up with some angle about it to sell abroad. I understand the reasoning, as much as I love my country, I know we have fucked some things up concerning international relations and I know how we are percieved abroad and ultimatly, this is a business. They have to make the money back. As long as this movie is Iron Man caliber fun, I don't care what they call it.
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...Just make the blue navy blue and remember the chest is covered in fish mail.
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I hope they can pull this off...but how can he be cool when he's carrying around a red white and blue shield as his weapon of choice. The blue tights, pretty everything about captain america's image in the comics would not work in a movie. It would make for a better comedy. Can anyone explain to me how they can stay true to the source material without the ridiculous getup?
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Oct 21, 2009 5:47:25 PM CDT
Jettl93, Is secretly a gay Jethro Tull impersonator,
by bizarroasimovlives
He's been doing it since 1993!
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..and it works just fine in the movie. What's the difference?
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Obviously. If he was trying to fake us out, lie to us about being a screenwriter, he would make sure his grammar and punctuation weren't ridden with errors.
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Cap has to bash in some Nazi skulls with his shield and we have to hear a glorious John Williams-esque score. Let's make America cool again!
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Whether you are or aren't in the industry (not that I doubt it, I'm a boom-op myself), you're bound to be heckled in the AICN TB's. The TB's were awesome a few years ago, but now it seems like its the place to go to bash on everything, no matter if its true or cool, or not.There was a time not too long ago that I'd come to the TB to have great conversations with other like-minded folks (whether they agreed or not with my viewpoints didn't matter, and no-one got angry or dismissive), but now I rarely leave a comment.I'm saying stay. You don't bother me with your insights, and you seem to be willing to have intelligent conversations (though I don't always agree with your views -coughTF2cough-, and your spelling sucks!). We could use more people like that on here. I might want to be involved in a debate or two again.
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I remember watching Cap on TV as a kid (I'm not from USA) and wishing it was better. I pray to all that is holy that Johnson nails this one. I'm looking forward to seeing it and forming an opinion. fini
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Is that same person posting as multiple people having conversations with themselves. Keep it up, as long as you're not kidnapping 11 year old girls and locking them in a shantytown in your backyard I guess you have to do something with your pathetic life.
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People, JettL93 is holding up "scoops" on Batman 3 as proof that he's legit. Does anyone else see how batshit insane that is? These "scoops" that he rambled off weeks ago and have never been confirmed because NOTHING about Batman 3 has been confirmed by ANYONE mean he's a screenwriter/FX guru/storyboard artist/caterer/conceptual artist/etc. for every genre movie in the last 5 years? Hey guys, I work in the apple industry. I can't say who I am but I'm responsible for Red Delicious, Granny Smith, Honeycrisp, Golden Delicious, and a whole host of other great apples you all know and love. I'm particularly proud of my work with Braeburn apples. Anyway, I'm a totally legitimate professional in the apple industry and a very important and impressive person in general. Here's a hot scoop: every apple the world over is slowly turning purple in color. Just FYI. I'll be back in a couple of weeks to remind you all that I called the whole "apples turning purple" thing so you can show the appropriate amount of awe and reverence. Never mind that your apples won't be purple, SHOWER ME WITH ATTENTION!
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Anyone remember a another Cap America movie with Red Skull?
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Lol, yes it is Dr Keel!
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You mean like two scoops of raisins in your Kellogs Raisin Bran?
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He is an arrogant, self-serving, self-aggrandizing, loud mouth douche who forces his agenda and his warped fantasies of good storytelling on iconic characters that are for more important than he could ever hope to be.
Case in point, the twisted storyline he came up with in which Peter finds out that Gwen Stacy birthed a pair of illegitimate twins that spawned from Gwen having sex with Norman Osborne.
Oh, and when Quesada mandated that 30 years of Spider-Man history be wiped out, the only thing that survived the purge was that despicable Gwen/Norman revisionism.
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IM2 next year and then Thor and Cap both come out in summer of 2011 before the avengers in 2012?
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I'm really fucking trying hard here, but I just can't see a grown man in little underpants, strutting around with a hammer, being taking seriously on film, giving serious dialogue etc.
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...hero for a wimpier, whinier age! Watch as he boldly sides with Vladamir Putin and Hugo Chavez in their quest to manipulate global oil markets! Stand back as he confronts the true villan of the modern age, Rupert Murdoch!
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be it animation or film, the continuity has sucked ass since the 80's and beyond.
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Oct 21, 2009 6:50:40 PM CDT
Ultimates did all the hard work, if your worried go read it.
by the green gargantua
Thor works, Cap works, those two interacting with Iron Man works. No probs. Quit bitching and hating. They made that comic so that these movies would work and they will.
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You can create the whole Marvel Universe. It's cheap. It would so much more fun.
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Well this stuff seems under the radar at the moment and is in no way actually confirmed, but according to Avatar blog MarketSaw, the success of Avatar could green light the possibility of an ALL NEW STAR WARS TRILOGY! In Stereo 3D! With Lucas only in Producer Role and a NEW DIRECTOR! So there you have it, and we may welcome the era of things to keep you on AICN occupied and arguing about for another decade to come! And Lucas will be a richer man! So everyone wins or whatever...!http://tinyurl.com/yjw777f
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Seriously, it's actually Harry fucking with you for his own perverse entertainment, and you guys don't even see it...
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Let's just make a movie where Captain America is an unapologetic American patriot. Why bother watering him down? A lot of Michael Bay's movies, and even the Spider-Man films, were saturated in Ra-Ra Americanism and they all made tons of money overseas. I woud love to see a movie where Captain America picks up the Red Skull and slams him face first into the hood of a vaulkswagon crumpling it like tin foil. Too bad Mark Valley's too old. He looks like he was born for that role.
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I'm pretty sure Lucas is currently working on the live action show and will be for a while. And that article makes it sound like the only way for another trilogy is if Avatar is a monster hit and basically becomes the next star wars. I won't hold my breath.
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Oct 21, 2009 7:20:03 PM CDT
jackson public should be made the new editor in chief of marvel
by brabon300
nuff said
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Most of insiders and Hollywood muckity mucks get Black Text if there really Down wit the AICN honchos. And I'm sorry but to quote Devin Faraci " Its like staring at a retarded sun"
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but that quote is in regards to TF2
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the costume, or trying to "verisimilitude" [verbal, all mine] it until it is unrecognizable. These characters have an iconic look for a reason. The character of Cap was/is supposed to be awe-inspiring to the common grunt. If he's just another guy in a uniform, what is the point? Nothing wrong with say, the buccaneer boots, as it mirrors the costumes of big screen heroes of the time, like Douglas Fairbanks. If you are embarrassed by the source material, you are no fan of the character.
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You can't write Captain America without having him at some point talk about how great America is, or the idea of America is, or what it represents, yada yada yada. Does anyone seriously think that movie going audiences will pay for that these days? Sure, some will but most will stay home and watch Fox News. And those who don't are more likely to just go see the other action film of the week instead of a comic film.
Besides, who can they even use as the villian without being totally retarded?
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they have been going the Ultimates route for years now. the x-men and spider-man movies are more based on the ultimates line than regular continuity. iron man is more based on current regular continuity, but tony stark is very ultimate tony stark.
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or pretending to be. please don't tell me i'm the first to say this. If it's the truth, I'm just want to tell you that I'm thinking about dressing up as The Rocketeer for Halloween this year(even thinking about Cap, but i don't facially bear a resemblance lol).If i'm wrong I will hunt you down JettL93 for making me look like a douche.
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at LEAST as much as the other publishers, and often, more.
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The year he either graduated High School or College which if High was the case would place him in his early to mid thirties and if college late 30's to early 40's.
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If you cant stand his outfit or dont believe the audience will be entertained by it then you don't belong on the project. Hey Jett if your serious about your involvement on TF2 one question; Who the Fuck thought Mudflap and skids were a good idea.
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Oct 21, 2009 9:05:47 PM CDT
Nah, the Ultimate comics didn't inspire any of the good movies
by chewtoy
Raimi is all about classic Spidey, and Singer's X-Men predates the Ultimate line. Iron Man was inspired by Layton's run. Looking to "The Ultimates" for Avengers inspiration is going to result in some souless crap.
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And I hate it. Comic books and Comic Book Movie should not be Grounded in the realm of reality and plausibility. They are supposed to be fantastic thats what makes them Comic Books.
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...kicking Nazi ass or will that just be glossed over in the opening credits as a series of Alex Ross paintings? Are they going to do the Bucky dies while Cap falls into the North Atlantic and gets frozen for 60+ years bit? Because even as a kid, that explanation never washed for me. That or the way he was found: "Grr! I'm Sub-Mariner and I'm Meeean and I'm Maaad! I'm gonna harass these Eskimoes for the hell of it! Beat it you lousy caribou-eyeball-eaters! Good riddance. Whuh? They were worshipping this figure frozen in this block of ice? Dumb fucks! I'll show 'em... just... uh... heft this thing up and... guh... throw it miles away into the fuckin' Gulf Stream where it'll melt. HA! Eat that you stupid ice-block-house-living assholes!" Later... "Hmm-de-dum. I'm Tony Stark as Iron man jes' minding my own beeswax, cruising around the Atlantic with the Avengers in our Avengers submarine...Inna yellow subma...HUH? Hey Thor, ya dumb fuckin' Swede, get over here. You got, like Norse god vision or some such? Look thru the Avengers periscope and see if you don't see some dude frozen in an ice block floatin' around out there." "Ja, ja, I ben seeink it, ja!' "You fuckin' moron... geez, ya stink like goddamn lutefisk... again! Just swim out there and fetch it, idiot!" "Ja fer sure Irunk Man!" "So what's the word (smirk) Ant-Man?" "Hmmm... appears to be a man frozen in ice, in a state of suspended animation. Had to stop working on my new robot-that-has-no-chance-of-ever -becoming-a-megamaniacal-world- conquering-menace to thaw him out. And guess what? He's that old WWII hero, Captain America!" "WHAT?!!? Are you sure you tiny-pricked egghead fuck? How do you know? A DNA test?" "No... because he's got little wings and a big "A" on his cowl and he's holding on to this American flag shield." "Asshole scientists!"
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I really don't see how you can compare spiderman's outfit to captain america's...I mean are you kidding me? Cap's is waaay sillier. How can you defend a costume comprised of a blue mask with little pointless wings attached, a big A stamped on it and big red boots? It belongs in a gay pride parade. I believe in the character but they'll definitely have to change his look.
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Oct 21, 2009 9:46:24 PM CDT
Marvel differentiates itself from other comic publishers by "not
by toilet_terror
Take THAT Fantagraphics!
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talkbacks let me down.
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That is all.
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Jett Lucas. According to Wikipedia, born in 1993. If I were Lucas, and someone I worked with used my son's name and birthday as his username, I'd be a little freaked out. Unless he actually IS Jett Lucas, and is apparently a hugely successful script doctor at the age of... 16.
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Hey JettL93, do you know who the villains are going to be in Spider-Man 4 and Batman 3? Thanks
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Totally agree. The Ultimates is like a story board for a big screen take on the Avengers.
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I thought Media Messiah could be one of the AICN guys, pretending to be a delusional playwright wannabe, or Dioxholster - late twenties virgin geek that still lives at home with his mother.
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Hey Jett, who knows who you are, but here are a couple of quick qualifying questions for you. What was the name of the front of the ILM building prior to the Presidio move (and what was the name of the Mexican restaurant right around the corner? If you spent any time at ILM, you would have definitely eaten there.) And, name two of the items in the front lobby area when you walked through the door. And two final questions, what the name of the theater at the ranch (I assume this is public knowledge) so a better question, for the softball field there, what is the color and location of the shed where the softball equipment is stored in relation to home plate? I worked for the Lucas empire for five years, so these are all pretty easy.
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As long as that fuck ya song from team America is the theme song I'm in
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A guy like that LIVES on the interwebs...right now he has Google Earthed "The Ranch", tracked down ILMs previous location, and found the name of the Mexican restaurant.Here is a better question for "JettL", and one he is probably more familiar with.Paper or Plastic?
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Hey Snake.
Is it true the prequels sucked because Lucas didn't have anyone else's work to be "inspired by" anymore?
Is it true that the designs for the PT sucked so hard because you didn't have Chris Foss and Moebius to plagiarize from anymore? Huh, just askin'???
Oh, and here's something to get your juices going, if you ever get to work on the Television series, and wonder how you're going to replicate the OT designs:http://astrona.blogspot.com/2007/08/chris-foss-illustrations-and-sci-fi-art.html -
well said
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Oct 22, 2009 1:48:59 AM CDT
SilentP wow that's some good work there re: Jettl93
by talkbacker with no name
and pretty fucking scary. Because it's either Luca's son or some creepy old guy pretending to be him!
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Anyone check out this show? the dude who plays Jax could make a good Cap.
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Hey JettL93, do you know who the villains in Spider-Man 4 are? Thanks
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I can confirm JettL93's "time no is mostly spend of writting and planning Batman 3 with Chris, john and David."
All Jonathan Nolan and David Goyer can talk about in their most recent interviews is how well the script for the next Batman movie is coming along, right? -
If you keep reading that the Nolans and Goyer have not yet been signed by Warner Bros. for a third "Batman" movie, or that work on a new Batman story has not yet begun, just ignore those stories. JettL93 is hard at work with all three filmmakers writing a terrific new script.
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Oct 22, 2009 3:57:15 AM CDT
Wow, I need to ask Jett who the next Batman villain will be
by criticalbliss
heh heh.
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Charlie Hunnam is the dudes name. I dont know how you yanks would react to a Brit playing Captian America (I thought Hunnam was American too until I found out he is from Newcastle, UK) I think Jensen Ackles from Supernatural would also make a good Captain too.
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...if you know George Lucas, you must also know Supershadow, right? Also known as Mickey Cuttle. He is a close friend of George Lucas and was instrumental in creating both the Star Wars OT and PT, plus Indy 4. What's he like?
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...meant to say Mickey Suttle. Anyway Jett, you ever hang with him on the ranch?
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"It won't be the same exact continuity from the comics, but it'll feel very much like the Marvel continuity," yeah right! im sure we will see spidy or the x-men pop up onscreen with Captain America any day now!
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Ed Norton coming back as Banner... Ha
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If not, then these star wars 7 tickets I bought from Jett, might just be legit.
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We had a dinner meeting. A.K.A. He ran up to me, outside of a Olive Garden, and told me his take on Batman 3. They're good ideas, I'll give him that much. I didn't like his pitch for "Let's Rock: The Al Movie", though.
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Sorry Jett!!!
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Rakafraker - This is taaaaaaaallllllllkbaaaaaaaccccckkkk!Stop being so naive.
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Well, when you are there, you are family.
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Goyer, Nolan and WB can blow all the smoke they want. The Dark Knight's future is in good hands. With Jett.
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I find it hilarious that you think I am bashing America because I think that the Captain America and his uniform is lame. I kinda already knew that his uniform is a design based upon the American Flag (yes that is correct, I already knew that fascinating piece of information) with the little tunic, pirate boots and shield, and you know what, I still think the uniform lame and the character is ridiculous. Does this mean I don't appreciate the American flag? No, it absolutely does not. In fact I think is one of the coolest flags in the world (Britain however is #1). It also has no bearing on my feelings toward the United States of America as a country or its people (which for your information I think quite highly of, and related to many). Now with all that said, I must confess that I do feel that America (as all countries) has it's fair share of idiots and assholes - both categories which you fall squarely into. I don't normally get annoyed when someone calls me a retard or some other shit (truly I do not care), but I do get annoyed when a fuck-nut such as yourself accuses me of being a "prime example of America bashing" when I clearly was not. I never bashed America; but I would like to bash the fuck out of your face for being such a fuck-up! Comics are not real (it's true, they are just make-believe). Now knowing that Captain America isn't real (painful, i know), how is saying Captain America is a lame super hero comic equal America bashing? If someone said they hate baseball or apple pie does that mean they are really saying they hate America - of course not you douche. In closing might I suggest that it is time for you to move out of your mom's basement and get a life, and when you are out in the real world you might want to be careful what you accuse people of, because one day someone is going to take exception and you are going to get F.U.B.A.R - hell it might even be me who gets to perform the honors.
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..everyone on here talking about how ridiculous this character is, will undoubtedly be going to see this movie...twice even. There are many things on this site that I don't care for. I've never posted comments on any of their talkbacks.
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Oct 22, 2009 9:13:18 AM CDT
WASN'T THERE SOME ENGLISH EQUIVALENT HERO CALLED UNION JACK?
by bringingsexyback
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It's a uniform that only works alongside other ridiculous uniforms, on the comic page. On screen it is a painfully dumb visual-- there's no way around it, sorry.
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Didn’t dial down the uniform a bit in the Ultimates? I agree the uniform on screen is going to be hard to pull off, so I’m curious which way they go. Of course due to the significance/symbolism of the uniform itself, if any changes are made, we’ll have another X-men “black leather uniforms” situation – and I think the talkback community has only just begun to heal from (BTW – the X-men uniform switch was the right call).
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yellow spandex.but on the other hand,u cant have him only with black clothes,it removes a lot of its character.i am curious on how they are going to handle it.
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Isn't that the idea, though? The guy IS a human flag. He's supposed to be obvious, over the top, brash, fearless, a SYMBOL of the America we wer fed all that time ago. Think about it. He's got his patriotic nadz so tight in bunch he's actually willing to whup the Nazi's dressed like a freakin' flag.
There's some major issues there that can and should be explored. Some people hang their flag out on the 4th. Some people fly it in the back window of their pick-up. This s.o.b. wears his to work every day. -
Throw in the fact that HE's the only one who doesn't see how lame it is. That's why he's a leader. He's driven by a dedicated vision - blind and unrealistic though it might sometimes be. Who else is gonna lead an American team of superpowerd asskickers who could very well come to be feared by the general public because of those powers? That's the shit they may wanna work with.
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You really thought that I refered to you bashing America, when in fact my last comment came off (intentionally) as being a wise-ass? LMMFAO what's funny is your long ass apologetic response while defending your pathetic ass.if I'm such an idiot and a asshole, why bother to respond in such an over defensive manner? is it the part in which you mentioned; "No offense to my American friends, but seriously - there is nothing cool about Captain America, from his lame ass "super powers" to his ridiculous uniform... I loath this character." Yeah, you are one patronizing sob aintcha? the last senstence in my post was a jab without all the seriousness but the rest was accurate.'tard.
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Fuck, if you're gonna have Thor, might as well do it up all the way with Cap's uniform. Shit, I'm sure The Script Doctor has something up his sleeve which will make Cap translate great on the big screen.
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Oct 22, 2009 12:09:20 PM CDT
Does Captain America represents Latin America, Canada and the Ca
by carlanga
I don't think so. Why not call him Captain USA? That would make so much more sense. The design of his uniform is the USA flag.
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's a good point. But it seems like he more represents the American Ideal. Otherwise they'd call him Captain Nafta.
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Taking up her new career as a professional internet shill for her old man after her last ass whipping as an MMA fighter.You RAWK bruiser-et!
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Oct 22, 2009 1:40:37 PM CDT
Captain Arrogant, Greedy, Fat, Moronic, Jigoistic, Cluster-bombi
by hobocode
How about we call him that?
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Fucking title limit. Fucking god damn aggravating.
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Along with his sidekick, Captain Euro.
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then you have never read the brubacker run. i was never a fan of cap until brubaker.
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the perfect movie for the early 21st century. Don't ya think?
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That's probably the Michael Moore version. :) Think we all know there's a difference between ideals and practices. Which brings up the question are heros necessary? Do they give us something to strive for? Or do they perpetuate illusions?
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Actually that's not the Michael Moore version. If you've ever seen a MM film you would realize just how much he loves America and how in awe he is of its people and what they can accomplish on a daily basis if they set their minds to it and don't allow themselves to be duped by corrupt media, politicians, and corporate executives.
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Or false ideals. Which was kind of my point. There's a difference between America, the ideal, and 'merca the unfortunate reality.
Captain America was created as a super soldier, a 'roid feueled war machine. But he's more than that. The flag he wears can represent democracy or empire. . .it all depends on whether you wear the Jeans or manufacture them.
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Michael Moore's Captain America would be a true American hero who would fight for working people everywhere by exposing corrupt politicans and executives that stand counter to our values of truth, justice, and equality. A hero who would go after he scum who prey on the weak. Someone wh owould ask the wealthy to pay their fair share. Someone who would go after the men responsible for torturing and other war crimes. That would be a real Captain America.
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Think we're both coming at the same point from different sides. I was focusing on the what is vs. what we've been fed portion of conversation. (Being housed in an 8X8 windowless basement office tends to make me easily distracted by bright flashy lights).
I agree with you on Moore's interpretation of how it should be. That's the ideal. America.
Your first moniker for him, that's how it is. 'merca. -
The have some of the most insipid characters and heinous "events" in all of comicdom!
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As long as he took them out with a bad ass frisbee shield, i'd be a happy man
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for the wealthy, hobo? I'm by no means wealthy, or conservative, and I'm all for more social services but who gets to decide what's fair? Just askin'.
In other news, this movie is still going to suck. C'mon Marvel, make an awesome R-rated horror "Strange" movie already. You don't even have to know the character is from comics to see the box office gold in that. Sorcery/horror yada yada yada. Do it right and you got the next big franchise. -
superman is fucking lame. wonder woman, lame. green lantern, boring narc. and black as night is a rip off of marvel zombies. bat-man is literally the only good character at DC. and the movie version is the only good version. battle for the cowl sucked.
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box office poison. there will never be a hugely successful R rated super hero movie franchise. watchmen?
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I dont believe all Comic book heroes would work R rated, most of them dont, but The 1st two Blades worked very well with the R rating.
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but blade could hardly be considered a successful movie franchise. the first movie was 'good'. the second was 'better' (i think) and the third one was garbage.
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ALot of people forget Blade was the 1st Marvel Comic book movie and 1st Comic book after the whole B&R fiasco. I dont we would be where we are today if someone didn't see Blade as a success.
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Even stan lee admitted had it not been for blade, marvel movies would not have been given the green light.One of marvel's all time best movie adaptations.
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of the success of the matrix? i think so. and wasn't blade 3 pg-13? for sure if they make a new blade it will be pg-13.
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Oct 22, 2009 5:46:51 PM CDT
but, yeah, blade is the first real hit marvel movie
by nerd_rage_retard_strength
strange isnt it?
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and not to mention that it was the first to utilize the bullet time effect before the matrix.Blade 1998 The Matrix 1999.Nuff said.
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Michael Moore's Captain America wouldn't accomplish anything but spend time walking around the beach wondering why he's getting larger.Meanwhile, a true, reality based Captain America would be plucking the piercings out of the mouths and noses of our youths while wondering why we're all drinking out of the same bubbler.
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If by bullet time you mean the multi-camera 360 effect, that was done in the Matrix and maybe a Gap commercial before and was nowhere in Blade. If you mean showing a bullet in slowmo and a character dodging, the first time I ever saw it was Ringo Lam's Full Contact in the early 90s.
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was invented by some french photographer. the first time i saw it was in a talking heads video in the late 1980's
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Jettl93 is not comedy. the talkbacker response to him is comedy. HERC's response is comedy. You're believe life only exists here on earth is comedy
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hollywood planning a large scale captain america film... THAT is comedy
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OMFG I had completely forgotten that Reb Brown played Cap. America in the 70's, lol. Just made my night :D
Calgon, Blow me away -
"93 is the number of scripts he sold last year!"
I LOL'd
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I actually believe the universe is rife with life. Just because I don't believe:
1) The moon landings were faked
2) That there is a forming/cooling star at the center of the Earth
3) That ambassadors from a lush, jungled Venus have spoken at the UN
...doesn't mean I don't believe in extra-terrestrial life. You actually believe every one of those points I just listed, not to mention countless other inanities you've been too stupid to be ashamed of.
You're right about one thing, though--the reactions to Jett's posts ARE comedy, especially the likes of yours. -
but have nothing to say about the Red Skull? What's sillier than a guy with an apple red skull for a head in his Hugo Boss Nazi attire?
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