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Lars Von Trier And Mr. Beaks Frolic In The Forbidden Forest Of ANTICHRIST!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Ignore the howls of disgust that greeted the film at last May's Cannes Film Festival: ANTICHRIST is not the end of cinema. It's just the latest movie from Lars von Trier. But I understand the confusion.
Von Trier's films have a way of forcing themselves on the viewer; they're designed to elicit a strong response. According to von Trier, he simply cannot help this: stretching back to his stunning 1984 debut, THE ELEMENT OF CRIME, the director's process has always been guided by intuition, rather than nuts-and-bolts stuff like story structure and genre conventions. Everything that unfolds onscreen is an honest, misshapen product of von Trier's imagination. This is the shit that delights and/or haunts him.
Though there is an outside possibility that he's just completely fucking with us.
Several of my colleagues contend that ANTICHRIST is an elaborate practical joke meant to push the audience's buttons, as well as tweak von Trier's reputation as cinema's foremost misogynist (supplanting Brian De Palma, who appears to be semi-retired). I think this is hogwash. The opening sequence alone - in which a married couple (Willem Dafoe and Charlotte Gainsbourg) have slo-motion, black-and-white, scored-to-Handel shower sex while their toddler son escapes from his crib and takes a fatal, multi-story fall from the bedroom window - is far too devastating to be some kind of aesthetic goof. It's as tragic and heartbreaking as anything in BREAKING THE WAVES or DOGVILLE. And it prepares us for an unnerving exploration of parental grief that very closely recalls Nicolas Roeg's masterpiece, DON'T LOOK NOW - with the dwarf in red replaced by a talking fox that likes to gnaw on its own insides.
You may stumble out of ANTICHRIST worrying for von Trier's mental well-being, but I don't think you'll be questioning his sincerity. Whatever he's trying to say with this singular piece of psychological horror, he means it. And if you're hoping von Trier might drop some hints as to his thematic intent in the following interview, forget it: he subscribes to the David Lynch School of Don't Explain a Fucking Thing. You want an authoritative interpretation? Pay close attention and come up with your own.
And while I think this is an admirable philosophy, it makes it kinda tough to talk about the work at hand. But we found other topics to discuss - like angry critics, the horror genre, and how to effectively direct an actress to masturbate for real on film. Read on, reader...
Mr. Beaks: I saw the film after the Cannes debut, and I really resented the overreaction in the press. It was so obsessed with how the film ends and what happens to the characters, and it deprived me of an initial viewing where I could experience the surprise and the shock that they felt. But as the film started, knowing what happens to the characters, I found that it deepened the tragedy for me. Are you okay with viewers knowing how your film ends ahead of time?
Lars von Trier: Actually, I just re-watched [Richard Brooks's] IN COLD BLOOD. There it is very clear what is going to happen, and it actually makes it better. Sometimes, it's not so bad to know how it ends.
Beaks: In obsessing on the third act, do you feel the critics did a disservice to your film?
Von Trier: Hm. (Pause) That's a little difficult to answer. I must say that I got a little provoked by this thing that I should "justify" myself. (Laughs) I don't think anyone should justify themselves. We can talk about the film, but [this particular critic] implied that I was doing something terrible to the audience, which I hope I have not done.
Beaks: When I finally got to see the film for myself, it of course provoked me, but I didn't think it was outrageous. I actually thought it was a fairly reasonable film.
Von Trier: When I do a film, I think I work a little bit like a painter. I really don't have so many plans or ambitions or views on how it should be seen. You kind of follow your intuition, and different films come out of that. I don't start off thinking that an audience should feel this or this. I'm pretty much working for myself in that sense.
Beaks: In approaching ANTICHRIST explicitly as a horror film, did you take into account any of the genre's conventions as you were writing the screenplay?
Von Trier: I think horror is an interesting genre. It really gives you room for strange images and sounds. I started off liking films like CARRIE and THE SHINING and Hitchcock, but I also saw some Japanese films that I liked - THE RING, for instance.
Beaks: You've cited David Lynch as an influence as well.
Von Trier: Very much so. Especially TWIN PEAKS: I was very taken with that. And the later films also. I like that he refuses to say any words about what his film means. He's a clever man.
Beaks: (Laughs) I think that's very wise. It can make for tricky interviews, but you just have to find other things to talk about. I'm pleased, though, that you cited Lynch as an influence on this film. The opening scene, which is so beautifully shot to that Handel aria... the look and feel of it reminded me of Lynch's commercials for Obsession.
Von Trier: (Laughs) Okay. I have not seen those, but I can imagine.
Beaks: I was just so enraptured by the images. And then you build to this horrible tragedy, the most awful thing that can ever happen to a parent... it's a collision of conflicting emotions.
Von Trier: When you work in dream slo-motion and black-and-white, you can't go wrong. It's very poetic. I think that's a technique I use to make it clash between different things like the death of a child and the beauty of the thing.
Beaks: Did you write specifically for Willem or Charlotte?
Von Trier: Not at all. I was looking for somebody much younger, and I was not at all sure where I was going to go. But then Willem wrote me a letter asking me if I had something for him, and I said, "Oh, yes. Absolutely." And he said yes after he took a little time to think about it. And Charlotte came in after we shot some test films with a few others. It was all a great gift.
Beaks: Did you find that Charlotte was game for anything? Was she a willing participant all the way through production?
Von Trier: I've never done a film that was, acting-wise, so simple. It was no problem whatsoever. Everything was very, very smooth - and that is, of course, thanks to the actors. I think Charlotte did a great job. You know, the masturbation scene, the only comment I had was "You have to masturbate much faster." She tried, but then she came to me and said, "I'm so sorry, but physically it it is not possible." (Laughs)
Beaks: I suppose you could have undercranked it.
Von Trier: Yeah, I could've. (Laughs) But this is filmed the way she... it's the real stuff.
Beaks: ANTICHRIST recently played at Fantastic Fest in Austin, and "Chaos Reigns" kind of became the motto of the festival. I guess talking foxes just have a profound effect on people.
Von Trier: (Laughs) Yes, well that's because it's so scary, and then all of a sudden turns and becomes funny. That, again, was not so much of my doing. Earlier on in my life, I did a lot of shamanic journeys, and the animals in this film are all from these journeys. So I had to give the fox a line, even though it's a little ridiculous.
Beaks: But that's what I get out of so many of your movies: you seem willing to go wherever the story needs to go, or wherever you need to go as an artist, and--
Von Trier: But I think, actually, I have a responsibility. I can finance these films, which would be difficult in a lot of other places in the world because they're so strange and relatively narrow. So I feel a responsibility to be a little wild.
Beaks: I know that years and years ago, Hollywood took an interest in you. I've read that Steven Spielberg was particularly eager to bring you over. Was there an offer made? And if so, were there any specific projects he wanted you to direct?
Von Trier: I don't know if that offer was ever made, but he is a very clever man. And he was early on interested in what was going on in... the universe of much narrower films than he did. If you look at the first film I did, THE ELEMENT OF CRIME, and ALIEN 3 many years later, the universes are pretty much the same. It's just a matter of... there might be things that, as a film producer, that he would like to see what goes on in what you could call the avant-garde. And then you know that this would be something you could use some years later.
Yes, I was sent some scripts, but I'm not coming to America.
Beaks: This film was born out of a depression and not knowing what to do. How do you feel now? Are you ready to press on and continue your career?
Von Trier: I'm fooling around a little with some ideas. It's not so easy to come up with stuff all the time. (Laughs) But I'm working. And I think I will be shooting a film next year.
I'm sure the Cannes Film Festival already has a competition slot reserved for it - whatever the hell it is.
ANTICHRIST makes its VOD debut this Wednesday, October 21st, and opens theatrically Friday, October 23rd. Go get yourself some chaos, and make it reign.
Faithfully submitted,
Mr. Beaks
Yes, I was sent some scripts, but I'm not coming to America.
ANTICHRIST makes its VOD debut this Wednesday, October 21st, and opens theatrically Friday, October 23rd. Go get yourself some chaos, and make it reign.
Faithfully submitted,
Mr. Beaks
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Just kidding.
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And gets you wet...
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-is the movie just a bunch of funky crazy images and no plot?
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-is the movie just a bunch of funky crazy images and no plot?
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Really, it totally reigns, even if it is a little ridiculous. Slo-mo man bits slapping into Va-J-J FTW.
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If someone creates a "film" for the sole purpose of justifying a man ejaculating blood on a woman, he's an "auteur", eh? Eli Roth is so three years ago. Yeah, I have seen the movie. It is disgusting and without purpose.
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hype hype hype
LVT films are always predictably retarded and try hard. Ok so the shock value has been wound right up.
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and snark.
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For that, all by itself, Von Trier is going to Hell. Might as well swing for the fences until then.
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just ponder over that a little bit. go ahead i DARE YOU.
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She thinks the TV is a magic city inside a box
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We actually laughed several times during this movie, and not just at 'Chaos reigns'. I really hope this guy os just messing with people, I'd hate to think hes serious about this rubbish. Maybe he and Micheal Bay should do Transformers 3 together.
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These comments are stupid. You don't like LVT? You think 'The Dark Knight' is a masterpiece of cinema? Well isn't that sweet.
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I'll take masterpiece, or even failed masterpiece over masturbation..anyday. I'll leave you to it then.
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I don't know if Beaks is married or has kids, but I suspect not. The movie is damn harrowing to watch.
The last movie which really worked its way under my skin like this was Irreversible. For the single guy, a 10 minute ass-rape of Monica Belluci taken out of context, could make an interesting addition to the porn bin. For someone who has a partner, that movie is pretty fucking horrible.
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really show why LVT will never enjoy success in America.
He made a movie *just* to have some guy cum blood over his wife? Okay, that's just a talkbacker. We can expect some level of retardation.
But Massawyrm? "Slo-mo man bits slapping into Va-J-J" Geezus fuck man, go rent a porno. I hear they have all sorts of man bits going into poon, and you can play with the speed settings all you want. God damn, this site can really suck at times. -
1) Did someone here just compare him to Eli Roth? You know Uwe Boll has made shock horror movie as well, why compare LVT to him?
2) His movies are hit or miss. But that’s only because he takes chances and makes profound movies in genres like drama and horror that could easily be exploitation in the hands of a lesser director. No sequels of reboots for him.
3) He is the James Cameron of art house cinema and no doubt he is one messed up little puppy. He drove Bjork crazy but in the end she did deliver a performance that was the best of the year.
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"According to the article, development on the game is being led by Morten Iversen, who wrote the Hitman games, and subsequently formed his own company, Zeitguyz, which created a game called Recoil: Retrograde. The article mentions Zentropa Eden Games as the developer of the title. Indeed, Iversen is listed as ‘game developer’ on the main Zentropa website. Lars Von Trier will approve (or not, one supposes, as it may happen) the final design. Eden, as the game will be called, will be a first-person thriller -adventure game that invites players to confront their fears. Willem Dafoe will reportedly reprise his role in voice-over, though the game will not replicate the film, picking up afterward instead." http://tinyurl.com/l3wzze
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of that year.i could not stop laughing during the movie, not about the fact that they used the rape scene to promote their movie,but that the rest of the movie had nothing,NOTHING at all to offer to the viewer.
and u know what,these kinds of movies show how hypocrites and biased are the movie critics,and why we shouldnt give a fuck about their professional reviews or rather their personal tastes.
i havent yet seen Antichrist,so i cant judge it.but i will never listen to what a 'professional' has to say about the movie. -
It was a joke. I've already written a couple of times in very serious fashion about the film. I was having a little midnight fun after reading Mr. VT talk about inserting comedy into his VERY DARK film. And people have every reason to hate this. It is a complicated piece of art meant to exist as ART; not to entertain. The fact that it deliberately offends gives license to all the admonishment in the world. It is part of what LVT was hoping to achieve.
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yes,yes,throw in the word ART,when we want to justify why we like 'difficult' arthouse movies,while the rest of the world doesnt like,simply because its ART and they dont get it.
But if we dont like a movie,while the rest of the world likes it,then its not ART,its fun.
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each film is a retarded fART stunt...he's just about apologizing for Dogville in the bonus'...mostly because the criticism of his films DO fucking GET IT. It's ALL ABOUT being as irritatingly affected and pretentious as possible. It's not insightful, it's infuriatingly annoying...now if THAT's his standard for success, total retard hacks like Bay must be Michelangelo's.
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no, it doesn't have to be. It's possible it's shit and some audiences are as delusionaly captivated by the same pretensions as the filmmaker. Baz Lurmman comes to mind. You have to have candy floss on the brain to think those coke driven bimbo extravaganza's are entertaining much less insightful. That is not fun, its stooping to idiots..LVT thinks he's reaching up to them
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Oct 21, 2009 4:42:10 AM CDT
"is the movie just a bunch of funky crazy images and no plot?"
by scratchmonkey
No, it definitely has a plot.
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There are things this movie does well but the lame talking fox bit was laughable and broke the tension/mood set by the amazing performance of the female lead.
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Maybe you should try watching the news.
As for the comments about 'The Dark Night' I found 100% more poignant messages in that than this rubbish. My fiance (with a psychology degree) and I found we not only didn't connect with the charaters at all, but we found them to be laughably irrational. -
I never would have thought it possible that Von Trier would laugh at anything. For this alone, this interview is a valuable document.
As for Von Trier's movies being "affected", I think there may have been some of that happening in the past, and think his relationship with his audience has been intentionally arrogant and dismissive (Dancer in the Dark), but Antichrist is a very honest film. The criticisms that it is a practical joke -- with some critics being particularly aggrieved by his reference to Tarkovsky in the last title card -- baffle me. This, more than anything else he's done, struck me as a real cry for help.
Perhaps it's because the horror atmospherics are done with such precision and care that I can't imagine how this could be seen as a gag. It's fucking scary, and it's thought-provoking, and it's sad. Could Von Trier really mean it for once? -
At least he is doing something original. More power to him.
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I think if Von Trier would like to come to Hollywood, a definite franchise opportunity exists for Antichrist. We would of course need a slightly different take on the family situation, perhaps reshoot certain scenes, perhaps the young child can just sustain non fatal injuries, and get this back to an MA rating, there are definite further story possibilities he could extend upon to the North American audience.
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Why I am so wrong for liking Dancer in the Dark? What was so offensive, misleading, artsy, intellectual about it?
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...automatically has everything else they ever say about movies ignored. Can someone please tell me WHY 'Don't Look Now' is a masterpiece? How is it clever to build up the weird suspicion that a short murderer wearing a red coat is running amok... and then.... at the end SPOILER show us that actually... there is a short murderer wearing a red coat running amok. I mean it's just not clever.
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calling this movie a "psychological horror" and "Art" is downright offensive to all genuine psychological horror films and to Art in general.
yeah, you got it right with "forced". the thing about Lynch and him is that Lynch usually says anybody can understand his movies and give them whatever meaning they want to with the surreal clues they got to create meaning in their heads. LVT works with assuming you must be as 'clever' and 'special' as him to enjoy what he's done. that's a very elitistic startpoint because you underestimate the audience.
everybody talks about how 'torture porn' sucks but at least the SAW flicks usually have a detective plot that sews it all together and ultimately deals with moral issues.
LVT forces his so-called Reason x Emotion debate down our throats with such self-importance and a hand so heavy he gets back reactions like laughter and anger.
but journalists and movie snobs [so-called 'cinephiles'] fall for that trap like cattle, throwing the Art card to forgive and justify anything. and to help them feel good about the ordeal LVT makes them go through. they can shut themselves in their special tower anytime and look down on the masses below, but it'll never make his movies any better.
i've never bought his discourse and the tools he uses to make a fool out of us and recover from depression. his work is laughable most of the time [search for 'antichrist fox scene' on youtube] and anger-indulcing for the rest of it - not because they're intense, but because you wish you'd never bought that movie ticket.
give me Lynch anytime. hell, give me Michael Bay even. but keep this hack's so called movies and his elitist smirk away from me. -
With scissors. I really don't have much enthusiasm for this sort of film.
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at the end of the Shining,but with DLN,u get a similar picture at the beginning of the movie,when Sutherland is looking at the fotos,and there is a figure with a red coat in them,right before the girls gets drowned.the director set the tone of the mystery right from the start of the film,and helped keeping the viewer puzzled all the time about the identity of the red coated figure.its these little details like a picture,that separate masterpieces from casual artworks.
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nor, from the looks of it, Jesus' abs.
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Now Michael Bay is a director better than LVT? The Saw movies were profound movies about morality? I can understand that a woman cutting her clit off isn’t very appealing but at least it’s done with a higher purpose. BTW, even Michael Bay makes art. Entertainment is form of art too. And again, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN BREAKING THE WAVES OR DANCER IN THE DARK? What did you not like about it? Surely, Lynch’s movies are a lot more abstract?
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There's a cut-away when it's done. The cut-away is to what is clearly a fucking prop, which has only a passing resemblance to a ladies parts. But the cut is quick, so all that's needed really is the suggestion, so that you as the viewer know what the character has done.
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....is it`Art`or`Arse`.
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Oct 21, 2009 7:23:56 AM CDT
I DIDN'T READ THE BOOK BUT IT'S CLEAR WHY SHE CUT HER CLIT
by bringingsexyback
It is the source of her sexual pleasure, and in the aftermath of her son's death, her overwhelming guilt compelled her to punish herself for feeling any pleasure associated with sex. Amirite? Though I don't think I'll be watching this movie, her actions do not surprise. People have done worse to themselves because of guilt. The ultimate punishment being, of course, suicide. It is the moral battle that most of us wrestle with. What truly frightens me is the people who feel no guilt about the harm they've brought upon others.
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both way overrated as directors, both kill real animals in their films for "art". If I was in a room with both these guys and Uwe Boll and had a gun with 2 bullets left......I would shoot Haneke twice just for inflicting Cache on me.
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And later on, she has a memory which may not be reflective of reality (it may be just her own guilt fucking with her) that she actually saw what was going to happen, but carried on fucking anyway because she was so close to orgasm.
It's like the joke about the guy driving the car, and he sees a couple fucking in the middle of the road. He beeps the horn. They don't stop. He beeps again. They don't stop. Finally he slams on the breaks and swerves to avoid them. Gets out and shouts "Did you not see me coming?" and the man in the couple says "Hey, you were coming, I was coming, she was coming.. but you were the only one with brakes." -
the film seems at least interesting
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you can get a serious actress to do Porn. Antichrist proves this. Dafoe IS the man though...getting paid to fuck this babe on film and not be shunned by Hollywood...THAT is a professional.
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and got the part in the same way bjork took the part in the dancer in the dark,Trier believed in her talent.
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BORING. All available column inches on this silly bit of calculated and prurient provocation have been used up.
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and when someone like Lars Von Trier is out there doing original work you piss all over it. Say whatever you want about his pretensions or provocations, but he's not making half assed movies about some toy line or comic book from the 1980s. Or remaking a horror flick that was pretty stupid to begin with.I don't think it would bother him if you laugh or jeer or boo his movies. There's always been an element of bleak humor in everything he does. A talking fox would only be the latest example.Like what you want to like. But it's not always the artist's fault if you don't like it. Sometimes it IS just you. You all like movies or music or paintings now that you wouldn't have embraced when you were a child or a teenager. Did the art change or did you?
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They had porn doubles for the explicit penetrating shots. So yeah, Dafoe may still be the man, but he didn't get paid to fuck her.
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Let me give you an example of my own here. Much as Kevin Smith gets shat upon by talkbackers, I've actually always been a fan of his particular style of prurient humor. However on one of his Smodcasts/Podcasts he basically said that he didn't *get* what was special about Citizen Kane, or the original Day The Earth Stood Still etc... He basically said that he thought people didn't really care about or watch these movies, they just liked to pretend they did so they could appear knowledgeable or snobbish.
Immediately, I was reminded of the phrase that some people are so dumb that they don't even realise there's such a thing as smart people.
How could any movie maker not realise that a)yes, people do give a shit about those movies because they're fucking classics and b)Citizen Kane really is the best movie ever because of all the shit Welles practically *invented* to make that movie.
And then I remembered. The fat fuck dropped out of film school and learned everything in a fucking video store whose back catalog probably went as far back as Star Wars.
So yeah, talkbackers bitch about sequels and remakes and what not, but what most of them want is new movies, not art. Something like the Matrix comes along and they blow their loads, whereas some people look at it and go "Eh, wasn't this done a few years ago and called Dark City?" Some will see Ring, or REC. And some will invariably wait for the subtitle-less American remake. It takes all sorts. -
If I filmed my wife banging nails into my scrotum while my cat looked at the camera and said`looks like rain`,would you find that`challenging`or artistic?
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I may end up hating it as much as some of you do. It certainly is dividing the critics. But in a world of mediocre films that don't even try to be coherent, much less provocative or interesting, we should be glad that we have Lars Von Trier. When's the last time a "horror" film genuinely shocked disgusted or disturbed you this way?
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Clearly he has no idea how women like to pleasure themselves. Its hardly ever done fast. Lars will never understand women. He loves to torture them so.
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That being www.aintitbalenews.com
Read it there first
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Von Trier's films tend to get some emotional response out of me, whether I like them or not.
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This chick had no problem graphically finger fucking herself for several minutes for the world to see; but wouldn't go the extra inch in the name of realism in letting the Man God Dafoe penetrate her pleasure pit?Fucking Amateur.
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...or floorboard or whatever.
Art is art. Ofttimes it's pretentious, or a mask to make a silly piece of shit seem important. Claiming a film is "art" simply because it's comprised of "disturbing" or "uncomfortable" images means "Hostel," God forbid, is "art." The other thing is when a filmmakers calls his work "art." I start to get a bit wary when that level of pretentiousness is reached. So, is this art? Who the fuck knows? Art's subjective...we'll all make our judgement after we see it. -
and say that Lar Von Treirs is overrated and sucks!
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just type like this: lkdjfdak;. He speaks in tongues only the whales can understand. Whale jokes.
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really...learn to read you idiot.
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Huh?
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Call Gans up and make him convince Lars to take directing and maybe co-writing an all new plot for Silent Hill 2. The trailer itself for Antichrist had some spectacular imagery and mood and was freaky! Yeah the movie itself form what I hear went too far than most audiences are willing to see. So just hold the guy back from doing anything too fucking weird, but just weird enough to be brutal yet tolerable to see.
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But I agree with him here. LVT is horribly overrated IMO. I liked his earlier films, ZENTROPA, THE KINGDOM, BREAKING THE WAVES, but that was before he decided that he couldn't be a great artist unless he completely jettisoned every trace of "classical" filmmaking and made pretentious, nonsensical crap (my opinion, of course).
LVT is a modern day Jean-Luc Godard, and I don't mean that in a good way. An interesting and groundbreaking artist who pushed the boundaries of what cinema could do, before getting stuck on his own "genius" and deciding that he had to make narcissistic, puerile and childish films so he could keep rattling the cages of the Bourgeoisie and the sensibilities of critics, who comically enough are really the audience of these films.
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People will come to the theaters with scissors, nails and fox masks. At the appropriate moment they will yell out "Snip it! Snip it!" while snipping their scissors in the air. When the fox scene begins they all put on their fox masks and shout "Chaos reigns!" And so forth.
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but this move has some images that just wont leave your head.
The hate for LVT is unjustified in my oppinion and he has done some great films and is a pretty talented director.
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This movie may be truly disturbing to some 12-year-old kid who finds its channel surfing some night on cable, but c'mon, is this really gonna freak anybody out?. Seeing weird shit out of context can be disturbing, but I find the older I get, the most frightening and disturbing stuff is not found in some bizarro art house movie but in the mundane stuff you encounter every day in real life, like people struggling with economic, emotional or health issues, the common, every-day cruelty we inflict on each other for no reason and your run-of-the-mill hatred expressed at the weak and powerless. So seeing Willem Dafoe blow a bloody load will just make me eject the DVD, not lose ant sleep.
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SICK: story of bob flannigan super masochist.i believe that film makes art out of a man nailing his penis to a boardseriously. it's an affecting filmrent "europa" by LVTit's amazingrent "breaking the waves"and finally, shut the fuck up. TRANSFORMERS 2 is my Prince of PEace
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dinner is not blush. is not grease lightening is not more and more of time dinner is not a hanging jug a more enduring answer dinner is not flourescent a flowering stone dinner is not a coruscated crown a mademoiselle twat with underdrawers for owls dinner is not the great wall of chinaCOP and A HALF
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Continentalop, I checked out after Breaking the Waves as well, mostly because I thought Von Trier was mostly interested in making fun of his audience, which gives the impression all he cares about it his narcissism. Antichrist is something completely different. It's reflective and thoughtful, plus it features some amazing filmmaking. It's really worth giving it a shot.
KarlKolchak, Von Trier's mastery of mood is what gives the film its power. As I said in another Von Trier talkback, Shyamalan should watch this to see how you film nature in such a way that it seems menacing. There is always the chance that there is something horrible in the undergrowth, and Von Trier really plays up that uncertainty. The sound design is fantastic too. It's a very very unsettling film before we get to the mutilation scenes. -
post by Vortex09 'give me Lynch anytime. hell, give me Michael Bay even. but keep this hack's so called movies and his elitist smirk away from me'
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Most of you should just stick to 1980's toy movies or whatever latest unfunny meme is on youtube.. Why is it such a crime to have to THINK when you see a movie. I hate to be the guy to say it, but most of you are just too dumb to understand this flim.
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see? that was what i was talking about... =\ *sigh*
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I'm a little late to this party but what the hell.
Yeah he's a dick. Want proof? watch 5 obstructions. he's just such a dick.
I haven't seen all his films so can't really comment on them. I've seen the idiots and Dogville both were shit.
In the case of Dogville if i wanted to watch a play I'd watch a play. I wanted to watch a movie. I don't care if it's art house or blockbuster but I want to see a movie not a play. But please watch 5 obstructions then tell me he isn't a dick. -
because they need something new to bitch about.
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Here are a few observations:1. I've never seen a Lars Von Trier film.2.I don't know anyone who has ever seen a Lars Von Trier film.3. I don't know anyone who has ever heard of Lars Von Trier.4. Very few people know who Lars Von Trier is outside of film web sites and the industry.5. Lars Von Trier is never coming to America. These are all good things.
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chaos reigns.this movie sorta weirded me out.
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he had to make narcissistic, puerile and childish films so he could keep rattling the cages of the Bourgeoisie and the sensibilities of critics, who comically enough are really the audience of these films. why are you lifting thoughts from EW?
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See his MEDEA, which is really lush and classic in every sense of the word, and remarkably restrained for him. Five Obstructions -- he DOES come off as a total dick for the first 9/10ths of the film, but (iirc) at the very end he ends up bowing before his idol and praising him which was a shocking gesture in the world of Trierdom. He also idolizes Carl Dreyer, which is a strong point in his favor given that Dreyer is one of the all-time greats alongside Bergman et al. BTW, I always like to point out that Trier added the "von" to his name for publicity purposes; he is not actually of noble lineage, which the "von" is supposed to represent. FWIW.
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