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The Next STAR TREK Original Series Blu-Ray Set Will Feature An Alternate Version Of An Important Episode?!
Merrick here...
The third and final Blu-Ray boxset of the original STAR TREK series - featuring restored third season episodes viewable with both original visual effects and/or "remastered" effects - will be available shortly before Christmas. Interestingly, the set will also include an episode which is not from the series' third season...
TrekWeb says an extended version of the second pilot filmed for the show - called "Where No Man Has Gone Before" - will be presented in this set. Chronologically, this the first episode to feature ShatnerKirk - although TREK's early episodes were not aired in the order intended/shot, so this ended up not being the first episode actually shown. This extended version represents the version Roddenberry submitted to NBC, who tweaked the ep before it went to air.
The resulting excised footage has been on the Net for a while now, but this is the first time it's been made available on a home video release. The broadcast version of this episode has already been included on the Season 1 set.
According to author Allan Asherman in his The Star Trek Compendium resource book, there are actually two different versions of "Where No Man Has Gone Before", only one of which has been televised and it is available on VHS and DVD. The unaired, extended version is the one that Gene Roddenberry submitted to NBC and will be included on the Blu-Ray set.
...says TrekWeb HERE.
Jump over to TrekWeb for a list of the differences between the Roddenberry version & the edit that eventually made it to air (which include a voice-over set-up by Kirk).
A crude YouTube featuring the changes discussed at TrekWeb can be found here:
Larger/clearer/smoother versions of the same can be found HERE, HERE, and HERE.
LOVE the vibe of these earlier episodes (looking the the ceiling panels down into the corridor, for example). Check out the original closing credits music...that's trippy as hell, but kinda fun.
The TREK Blu-Ray set are truly spectacular in nearly every regard, and can't be recommended highly enough. If you've never had a chance to see The Original Series all the way through, never seen these episode uncut (they're been systematically abbreviated for syndicated broadcast), or if you've never seen them in HD (which is eye-poppingly awesome on these sets) - check them out.
The third season set, containing the alternate ct of "Where No Man Has Gone Before", can be pre-ordered HERE
. Season 1 of the show can be located HERE
, and Season 2 can be ordered HERE
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According to author Allan Asherman in his The Star Trek Compendium resource book, there are actually two different versions of "Where No Man Has Gone Before", only one of which has been televised and it is available on VHS and DVD. The unaired, extended version is the one that Gene Roddenberry submitted to NBC and will be included on the Blu-Ray set.
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It's nice to have this stuff out there in a complete form. I can't think of many old series that truly deserve to be 'archived' but the original STAR TREK is definitely one that does.
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THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/sienna-millers-near-wardr_n_250289.html
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"I believe there's hope for you after all, Mr. Spock." Yeah. Hope that he's a fag! (Sorry.)
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It was the first version of Star Trek with sort-of real people in it.
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They are indeed awesome. The picture and sound are jaw-dropping. I actually Netflixed the HD DVD version when it first came out (no way IN HELL I was shelling out $199.99!) and the Blu-ray version is WAAAY better.
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This alternate version has been making the rounds as far back as VHS copies in the '80s. Not that different.
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Can't say enough good things about it.
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NERDGASM!
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3 Bag Enema? - that you Six Demon Bag?
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...pass on TOS though. Call me when I can Rene Auberjonois in 1080p.
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Rene Auberjonois is in 1080p on the Blu-ray of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
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and Revenge of the Fett thanks. That hadn't occured to me.
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Dude, when were you born? I'm not being a dick, I really am curious.
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Agreed. DS9 4eva.
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to replace the old special effect,s and even though what i'm going to say will piss off the purits (and i'll completly understand their point of view), the fact it i think the CGI was very well handled and afte a while it doesn't distract at all.
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but as a kid for some reason star trek just popped for me.was such a big deal as a kid for me to spend time at a relatives with cable or a staion that it was in syndication on. watched original movie,recorded from hbo onto vhs, so much it wore out the tape....good fuckin times..sorry had to share
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without thinking about Kurtzman/Orci/Abrams moronic shitfest.
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That might have been the problem with DS9, which was exarcebated inVoyager and eventually took it's more extreme form in Enterprise: in that Star Trek ceased to be about the people of tomorrow and became a series of the people of today pretending to be in the future walking around in space ships.
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I was born in 1971 abnd i don't pass on ST:TOS. Age and the time the show was first aired is not a factor for me.
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I can, because i call that other abomination shit by another name, thus avoiding the confusion. There is only one Star Trek simply called Star trek, and it was made in the 60s for TV.
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On the Season 3 DVD they included a 'restored' version of the Cage. Does anyone know if it'll be included in this Bluray set?
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but i cant say that this makes DS9 a bad scifi tvseries.for what it was,it was great.Besides scifi does not always work as a mean to tell how the world is going to look and behave in the future,but also as parable of how our modern world works,through the setting of a futuristic setting.
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so with was with some terpidation and suspicion that i bought the DVD. And after i watched it, i have to say, though it's not consistently on the high mark of quality of the first series, it's still a pretty darn good TV. It's far better then what most people claim it to be. I was suprised by the quality of many of the episodes there. And even the "hippy" episode is quite good. It's a terribly misunderstood episode, if you ask me. And as for the Spock's Brain wepisode, yes, it's very silly, but no more then the Tribble episode. both episodes were designed to play for laughs. Strange one one gets such found memories form the fans and the other gets so pissed upon. and frankly, the Tribbles episode is over-rated and that's season 2.I tell you with great conviction, if the 3rd series had not been give that bad Friday night TV slot, TOS would had continued for at least two more seasons. Imagine that, two more adventures of classic Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Maybe some people in a paralel universe got that lucky.
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I was born in '77 myself. I guess my theory with odo19 is that he is probably someone born well into the 1980s and grew up watching DS9 when it first aired. I was a STAR WARS fan at first and by the time I was 9 I really got into TOS.
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That's like having another season of TOS.
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Was almost negated in Voyager, to defend it a little, since they were stuck so far out of the way with the same constant people, and had to deal with so much bs. Not that I'm defending Voyager that much, it was ok, but definitely not on the level of TNG or DS9. And to play devil's advocate, Enterprise was set in a time that wasn't about people in the far off future. There were a SHIT-TON of other reasons Enterprise failed: bad writing, a vulcan who was chosen for her hotness and not for her acting ability, a shitty opening sequence song, not wanting to call it Star Trek, completely ignoring canon, not having Colm Meaney, etc etc.
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What i wanted to say is that while i actually prefer darker SF with darker themes and darker stuff happening with darker more ambivalent character, like in the remake of Battlestar Galactica, the thing is that Star Trek was always about people of the future being ebter then us today, they had higher moral standards, and they acted on them. And the idea should be, the mor einto the future they are, the more moral they should act. From DS9 foward, the reverse happened. One can excuse for Enterprise because it was the earlier days of the mankind in the Federation. But DS9 and Voyager have so much excuse.Frankly, it's kinda of a failure of the imagination that the writers and producers of DS9 and Voyager could not keep up with the high standards of morality that Gene Roddenberry put into his created future universe. And the inclusion of religion into ST was a big mistake as well. One of the rare mistakes that Ronald D. Moore comited.
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shameless ploy for money
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cut to a view of a solar system with subtitles saying 6 months later, and adding an explosion. I'm glad they're not going the Lucas route.
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Never saw TAS. I even fear it.
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I think the setting of Voyager should had given the writers and producers a xchallenge for them to make the characters of the show STILL UPHOLD high moral standards, and BECAUSE of their predictment. It's easy to be moral when things are easier. It's very difficult to be moral when everything turned to shit. Voyagers should had been a crossing of the valley of the shadow of death, and where, despiste the tribunations and their near impeding doom and so away from home, they would still menain the moral people of the future of Roddenberry, and no matter how bad things were, their moral upstandign would not faulter. that would be a cool challenge. It was not met.
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"You can be born at any time to appreciate TOS"I hear ya."... but for some people it takes a longer period of time to appreciate it depending on how far after the fact you were born"And i suspect the new movie is not going to help that either.
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said DS9 didn't deserve a restoration. I like all Star Trek with the exception of Voyager(yes even Enterprise). Oh and good guess. I was born in 89' and did watch DS9 when it was on.
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While the story is very good, if it had been acepted as a pilot, we woudln't had the Star Trek that most of us know and love. No Kirk, no Scotty, no Bones, no Uhura (A SIN!!!!), no Sulu, no Chekov... Though we would still get Spock... but a different Spock.One thing i lament about the change was that they eliminated the Number One Officer played by Majel Barrett. It would had been really cool to see such a high ranking officer be a female. But she got demoted to nurse, sadly. Still, Spock made an admirable number one. But oen can't help but think what chance for drama would had it provided had Majel kept being Number One, and how would she would had clashed with Kirk, Scotty and Spock.
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check out yesteryear on youtube if you remain unconvinced.
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maybe I need more sleep.
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There will be a problem about the restoration of both TNG and DS9 for blue-ray in that they were shot on video. And the video definition was considered for what the TV screens of the time when they were produced. This is why it's very easy to pull stunning blue-rays of TOS, because those were shot in film, but they will not look much different then the DVD, because the video definiton was standard for TV screens of the 80s and 90s. And wors,t it was shot for NTSC, which has far lessser definition then PAL. Sinc ei live in Portugal, in here broadcast standard is PAL, whichis why TNG always had this grain in the image one could detect many times when they didn't aired using first generation tapes.
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Don't be so depressed, friend. If you made MY TYPOS, you would comited suicide, then, with that attitude. The way i think is that what really matters is message, and that can came across despiste the typos. Though i get pissed off with the mistaking of "they're" with "their". It's my pet grip.
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For what it did for TV and Sci-FI, you have no business watching Trek in any way shape or form. To say things like "I'll pass on TOS" (that is if you have never seen it, if you have and are passing on getting the DVD or Blu Ray, that's fine)sorry, no dissrespect intended towards anyone, but that's shortsighted and bordering on ignorant. You would have never had the crapfests of TNG or Voyager (DS9 was ok, never watched Enterprise) if it were not for TOS, and TNG borrowed HEAVILY from TOS. Anyone calling themselves a Star Trek fan who dismisses, in ANY WAY the OS, aint no Trek fan. Sorry, it's a fact.
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one of the critisms of both TOS and (to a lesser degree) TNG is that the people of tomorrow were so much better then us, that no one ever seemed real and it really never gave them room to grow, that we'd see the same people doing the same thing week after week. Harlan Ellison is one of the primary critics of this point of view. I think DS9 was written the way it was to address those critics and it proved popular enough that it leaked over into Voyager and Enterprise with poor results. the moral ambguity worked for DS9 but I think the moral high ground would have worked better on Voyager
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one of the critisms of both TOS and (to a lesser degree) TNG is that the people of tomorrow were so much better then us, that no one ever seemed real and it really never gave them room to grow, that we'd see the same people doing the same thing week after week. Harlan Ellison is one of the primary critics of this point of view. I think DS9 was written the way it was to address those critics and it proved popular enough that it leaked over into Voyager and Enterprise with poor results. the moral ambguity worked for DS9 but I think the moral high ground would have worked better on Voyager
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Maybe someone with a soul, the receptionist maybe, will watch them and come to learn how to write professional fucking dialog.
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Hmmmm. *Strokes beard*
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Oct 19, 2009 12:53:41 PM CDT
Anyone seen Bob lately? Sure is keeping a low profile here...
by conspiracy
Or maybe he got some help for his masochistic tendencies?
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Right on.
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Consider the people of 300 years ago, and what they think of us today if they could had a glimpse of the future. We with our humanistic values, our our democracy, with or laws that avoid aplication of super-harsh penalties expect for really serious crimes, our liberty of press, no slavery... how strange and super-moral we would look like to them. Star Trek's vision of the people of the future is just like that, a projection into the future with the assumption that people will be more civilized. And that's the game with Star Trek. And if the writers of the newer shows could not keep up with those standards that Roddenberry set, it's their flaw and their failure, and not TOS' vision of the future.
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Right on. Also, to understand who Spock and Kirk really should be like, and not an emo bitch in the first case and a dumb punk ass nobody who gets his ass kicked by everybody in the second.
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When once was a classy, professional, competent and intelligent lady was turned into a fitty pushy bitchy teen who advances in the job because of her boyfriend connections.
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Why, you even doubt?
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You can watch them for free on Netflix. What gives?
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Why doesn't Paramount reboot the TOS but with a show that has nothing to do with the shitty movie that was released in the theaters? And they could set it also at the begining of Spock and Kirk's careers, call it Star Trek: Academy. Pull the same stunt on Star Trek as the Terminator TV show pulled on the Terminator saga by going TV but not being related to the later movies. And correct them in the process.
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That guy knows and breaths Star Trek.
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Instead of that dumb rush job we got in the movie.
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Because there's a pleasure in owning it that you will not get with a simple rental.
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What Season was that time-travelling 'romance' episode with Joan Collins? Anyone know?
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That's the first season. And yes, overall, it is the best season of the show. But i thinkthe 3rd season is underrated, and for the good stuf they had in it, it was still going strong, good enough for two more series at least. I envy the habitants of the paralel universe where TOS went for more seasons after the 3rd and Phase II was actually made.
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That's how the episode is called. Adn it's one of the best, and the first TOS episode to have a tragic ending. Though that tragic ending was necessitated by the plot, of course.
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Thanks Asi, yeah I remeber that particular episode since my childhood and would like to see it again.
I wouldn't mourn TOS not going on past 3 seasons - it's always better to end on a high than to keep pushing on with declining quality.
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SDB, you're twice the man enema is! At least... you have twice as many bags.
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show what a lost opportunity the Trek reboot was. They could have kept the original design aesthetic and tweaked it just enough so it didn't look hokey. Appearances by Number One (the female one not Riker), Dr. Boyce and Gary Mitchell would have been cool too.
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No, there is no "closure" on season 3, it just ends, a if there would be more seasons to come. Not even a clift hanger. One of the last episode of the 3rd season i saw also happens, for me, to be one of the best TOS episodes, one whihc is sadly pretty forgotten and gone unmentioned even by the trekkies. It's called "All Our Yesterdays", and it's a fairly dramatic and tense episode, in that he holy trinity of Kirk, Spock and Bones get stuck in the past of a different civilization, their time travel their strategy to avoid being decimated by their sun's going nova. The story is set on the clock, but kirk is seperated from Bones and Spock. Spock in particular has a very intersting and moving small character arc. To tell more would be to spoil the fun. I really loved that episode, it's quite a smart piece of Star Trek. And again it suprised me because of the infamy the 3rd series suffers... unjustly, in my opinion.No, man, there was still plenty of wing to those TOS sails, and the fact the show ends so abrutly is proof the concept had not been fully exploited yet and was more to come. A real pity. TOS, like Rome and Carnivàle, was cut too short.
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thats why i love Picards character so much.he is,despite his flaws,the best representer of the high ethos of the people of the 24th century.
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Anyone remember those? It's basically frames of the episode with word ballons. I have the Tribbles one, and the No Man, one. They were really cool. They also did ones for TMP, and TWOK, but the effing TWOK one was in
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That need to shut the fuck up once in awhile.
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Final episode of TOS is considered the worst in the whole series. Kirk goes Freaky Friday with a crazy ex-girlfriend with a world class case of Penis Envy. Shatner chews the scenery playing a chick in a man's body.
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in a universe thats just been totally rebooted?
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Nuff said. I know.
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Asimov hates it because no goats were raped.
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A conundrum!
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ME!!
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They were just EDITED on tape in 480i. Unfortunately that means that it will be very difficult to reassembel the episodes on film, but not impossible. It would just be a very expensive process. Also the FX need to be either recreated or rerendered because they were adpted to 480i as well.Paramount knows what a cash cow Star Trek is. My guess is that they will at least do the first seasons of TNG, DS9 and Voyager for eventual Blu-ray release and possibly rebroadcast in HD.As you probably know, The Animated Series was shot on film and Enterprise was shot in HD so they are both already prepared for HD and will most likely be the next Star Trek releases on Blu-ray.
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they dont have the original films with the tng episodes,so they have to transfer and upscale the episodes from the 480i videotapes??
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They could set it inbetween the TOS and TNG eras so we can get all the cool shit.
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jesus thats a fucking great idea,they should do that as a tvseries rathen than that crapfest Enterprise.damn.
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It's just sitting on reels unedited. It's possible sections are marked or flagged in some way, but probably not so the editing would have to be done from scratch. Just going by where it LOOKS like the cuts are made would be pretty difficult I assume. they could just re-edit stuff according to what they think looks good and not worry if it is identical to the aired episodes. That would probably be less time consuming but I doubt they would do that.For the TOS season 2 Blu-ray set, they did upscale the Ds9 Tribbles episode from the 480i video master, but I haven't gotten to that yet. I'm sure it looks like upscaled 480i though. nice, but not HD.
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If you don't like it, don't buy it.
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I think Capt. Picard is the best thing about TNG.
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Yes, there's a sense of chauvinism in "Turnabout Intruder" (TOS 3rd series last episode) which sits very ill with the rest of the series and how it portaited women in a much more positive light. I wouldn't call it a bad episode (i'm starting to suspect there is no such thing are a really bad episode in TOS), but it's quite weak and a bit misguided compared to the rest.
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Youa re right. You reminded me of what the real probem with TNG and Ds9 ar, and it's not so much the live action shots, but the SFX which were made to measure with the times' TV definiton.So, you reckon, if they release TNG and DS9 to blue-ray, they would need to redo ALL THE SFX?? I don't know, man! I don't know if Paramount is interested in putting the cash. I mean, how many seasons was there of those two shows? 7 for TNG, 6 for DS9 or something like that?? How many episodes are we talking about here? 200 for each season or something like that? Sounds gigantic, and unfearseble. I don't know, man.
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and thanks on the correction of the episode's title.
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TOS - 3 seasons, 79 episodesTNG/DS9/VGR - 7 seasons each, I think 24 episodes per season that would be 168 episodes total.Enterprise - 4 seasons I think about 96 episodes total.That's why i think they would just start with season 1 of TNG because it was so popular to see how it would seel and if it would justify the huge expense of converting them all. I'm sure they are really kicking themselves for cheaping out the first time around.
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If the effects files are on a computer hard drive somewhere it's concievable they could just be output at a higher resolution. I'm assuming model shots were shot on film, but I'm really just guessing at all of this.The only thing I know for sure is that these shows COULD be made ready for HD, but at extreme expense and time. Conventional wisdom is that it will be several years before such a thing would even be contemplated. But with the huge success of this year's Star Trek film (the highest grossing film of the year so far I believe), they may be anctious to get that product out sooner rather than later, at least to test the waters.
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Transformers 2 and Harry Potter kicked Trek's ass this summer. Trek made money, but it did about as well as Batman Begins did.
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Ah yes, I see that now at BOM. Up and The Hangover also beat it. Star Trek did $52M more domestically than Batman Begins though. It hasn't made as much from foreign markets but I suspect it hasn't been rolled out to all of them yet.
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Love it. We've just watched City on the edge of tomorrow... McCoy accidentally injects himself with a serum, that makes him want to go back in time and change history. Awesome.
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I don«'t think they were cheapping out in the TNG and DS9. Simply, nobody imagined back then that soemthing like Blue-Ray would one day exist. Helel, even DVD was way ahead of anybody's imagination back then, at least for TNG. People were thinking VHS.
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No, the most sucessful movie this year is the equally atrocious and idiotic Transformers 2. By a very wide margin. Which is pretty depressing.
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Ha ha, I'm loving watching people completely destroy that episode's title.
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I like the fact that The Hangover, a mvoie made with 1/3rd of Dreck Trek's budget, end up making more money at the box office, and not in relative numbers but in absolute numbers. But better yet is the news that UP beat Dreck Trek.I take Batman Begon's bigger sucess at the foreing box office then Dreck Trek as proof that BB resonated with foreign audiences in a way that Dreck Trek didn't. Which is pretty fitting for such a stupid pile of shit movie. And BB is the kind of movie that gets better with repeating viewing, while Dreck Trek is the very opposite. Not that it was any good to begin with, anyway.
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Sure parts of it are weird like the 1,000 mile long drill head. Is there some reason that thing couldn't just be fired from the ship? Why couldn't the ship just enter the atmosphere to drill? etc. I also am not really comfortable that the entire Star Trek mythos is now "reset".All in all I thought it was a lot of fun. It felt like TOS to me, not in the classic sense of course. Shatner and Nimoy built those characters. But I had a great time at that movie. I think most people did.
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Oh fuck. You've gone and done it now, FETT. Asimov will never allow you to simply call STAR TREK "fun".
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....'remastering' project of the TOS episodes to begin with, and followed their progress which was shown in great detail over at TrekMovie.comUnfortunately, while the new colouration and picture quality looks absolutely stunning, it soon became apparent that the budget and in-house FX studio CBS Digital were not up to the promise that this project initially held.It turned into a frustratingly missed opportunity, as a little bit more effort would have made this worthy enhancement a lot better. While some effects are excellent, others came out damned shoddy looking. The cheap bastards didn't even improve all of the handphaser effects, only some of them. The improved ones looked great, but the untouched ones stand out as even poorer now.Hopefully, someone, somewhere will care enough to go the extra mile when it comes to the eventual 'WIDESCREEN' version release someday. These new episodes are actually geared up for widescreen airings in Japan it seems....I've seen snippets of widescreen clips of TOS, and they looked damned fine in that 'cinematic' form. That's the enhanced versions I REALLY want to see!
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And my god the quality of the episodes is simply amazing, especially with the updated FX. Not only do they NOT distract from the episodes, but they add to the excitement of each viewing. I just watched "Where No Man Has Gone Before" last night, and I was literally speechless at some shots of the Enterprise heading into and escaping the energy field, cut seemlessly with refined shots of the bridge crew. I have a 50" HDTV w/surround, so it's liking watching TOS at a movie theater. I hope they can remaster TNG in HD at some point. In fact, I don't think there would be a price I wouldn't be willing to pay for that Blu-Ray collection. Star Trek on Blu-Ray = the best home entertainment investment around.
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Quote: "And BB is the kind of movie that gets better with repeating viewing, while Dreck Trek is the very opposite."Does this mean that you've watched STAR TREK more than once?!?
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Dr Who series.They erased the tapes with the episodes,because at that time they werent aware of the merchandise potential or the future of the video formats.anyway.
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I don't need to to know that.
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did this on purpose,since all these years the only thing it does is to milk the suckers err the star trek fans.So next time expect the new tos bluray release with 75% completed sfx and the next,next time the bluray version with 100% completed sfx.
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Ouch for Old Dr. Who. Thankfully the new series are pretty good. Same fate didn't befallen Star Trek in it's new cinematic encarnation, unfortunatly.
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I'm pretty happy with the DVd sets, i'm not going to cough my money for some new more sparkly Star Trek TOS stuff just to keep up with the technology. I'm not made of money, you know? And ye,s i ageree, i think Paramount thinks the trekkies are just cows to have their money be milked dry. And they are suceeding.
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Who the hell loves Dr. Who?
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As bitches to be spanked and cows to be milked out of their money.
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Oct 19, 2009 4:12:10 PM CDT
It was Paramount that created the concept of High Concept
by asimovlives
back in the early 1980s. It's a suprise it took them so long until 2008/2009 to fully aply that to Star Trek.
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Who? The english, that's who? You can insult the Queen, but insult Dr. Who to the english, and they will came down on you like football holligans. They take it better a bash on the Queen then their greatest SF institution. Beware!
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Probably because almost everyone at least likes them.
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Spock better get paid bitches!
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Man I tuned in every week hoping they/she would unlease those delicious English dairy factories...never happened.:(
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Saying Doctor Who is crap from someone who is rushing out to buy Transformers 2 on DVD strikes me as a compliment.
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Anybody trying to say the Abrams Trek is better really is talking out of a hole in their head.
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TF1 and TF2 are two of three movies so bad I deleted them off my hard drive. The third being Indy 4.
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hahah, you deleted them off your hard drive, but kept "Co Ed Shower Stall"?
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Oct 19, 2009 4:52:15 PM CDT
Why is Trek XI liked? Picture Quality of TOS Blu Ray?
by coordinate_system
Just curious, but why did people like Trek XI? Is it that they know its a really dumb movie, and they simply liked it (in which case, there is no simply no accounting for taste)? Or do they think its a well written, logical, well crafted film which was respectful of the source material? Not disparaging anybody (much), just asking. As for the blu-rays, I'm not sure I am going to buy them, I love TOS, but of the older works I've seen in High-Def, I haven't been too impressed. Anyone seen these? How is the picture quality.
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Great acting...an a script that makes you give a fuck about these characters. Watch that scene between Nimoy and Shatner at the end...THAT is how you do a fucking Star Trek movie.
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Oct 19, 2009 4:57:18 PM CDT
lockesbrokenleg..."Co Ed Shower Stall" is a fucking classic
by conspiracy
Guy on Girl on Guy on Girl on Horse action at its finest. Hell..I even kept a copy of Thai Trannyformers 2 I got when looking for TF2 on a Russian web site; because ya know what...even as a confirmed Hetrosexual, watching those confused fuckers ass rape each other makes more sense than Bays abortion ever will.
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Oct 19, 2009 4:57:19 PM CDT
In this version, does Gary Mitchell get murdered by HAL 9000
by royston lodge
Damn, I'm funny!
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happened with the new parts of your stories? i am still waiting for them :P
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Oct 19, 2009 5:11:35 PM CDT
ominus..Those are only for Orci Trek, Indy 5, or TF3 TBs...
by conspiracy
Not something about TOS. I only write that crap when the TB story compels me to vent. Don't worry though..I keep tabs on events..Spike Awards and shit...and will figure out a way to weave those events into that crap.
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i cant wait for the next orci trek,etc news ;)
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-it's in Good hands.
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episodes ran in 1.5 hour blocks because the additional footage took episode length to 59 minutes.
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By sheer luck I picked up a VHS copy of the variant version of "Where No Man Has Gone Before" almost two decades ago in, of allplaces, a used video shop in Bowling Green, Ohio.
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yes, and they cut out shit for commercials. These are the episodes with the CG footage newly created for the series. It's not the same thing. Also, the Where No Man alt pilot has never been on TV. So, it's nice to look up info before you type it.
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There's nothing "trippy" about the closing credits music, Merrick. Pretty goddamn tame, come to think of it.
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CRIME: TWAT.
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Didn't you read through the talkback? I left a post describing the quality. Simply put, it's phenomenal. More specifically, the colors are richer, the special FX are breathtaking, but not overdone, when woven into beautifully remastered footage. Seeing TOS on Blu-Ray is literally seeing TOS anew. Seeing it on TV however, even HDTV, doesn't do the Blu-Ray collection justice. I can't recommend this set enough. I'm especially glad that my uncle--an older Trek fan who grew up on the show and subsists on the nostalgia of old westerns and old sci-fi--has gotten to see the show in a whole new way.
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Sorry, I missed your post. Thanks for the reply. I'm curious about this because, I've looked at DVD and high def (Blu Ray and HD-DVD) versions of some older films (e.g. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), Forbidden Planet), and I don't see a lot of difference. I'm sure a lot of things affect the transfer (like being in B&W), but they didn't look all that different to me (even on a 1080p display). I was just wondering if a 60's TV could transfer well enough to justify the purchase. I have some the Remastered episodes (purchased from iTunes), but in standard def, and the remastered effects are awesome. I agree the Galactic Barrier was very well done in "Where No Man Has Gone Before": it gave a real sense of size as the 1701 plunged into it. I'm getting to the age when the word "nostalgia" actually has some meaning, and it fun to revisit some old childhood favorites. Enjoy the rest of Season 1!
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It wasn't The Day the Earth Stood Still that I saw in high def, but something else, and I can't remember what it was. Blasted Memory!
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Douche.
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I thought the alternate version was going to be one with Pine and Quinto inserted over the original cast...
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going back and forth about the new trek.....seriously guys??
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until the DVD! Woooooooooooooo!
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i wish they'd keep the vocal tracks and totally redo the animation. you'd have to go back to those marvel animated episodes of the 60's to find stiffer animation.
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AICN gets a choice quote as well: http://tinyurl.com/yg7cmge
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Your all a bunch of douches and twats! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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Did "Star Trek" air in South Africa? And if so, how was it received?
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Im afraid I cant tell you how it did in SA as I have been living in Asia now for a number of years. But I can tell you that it went mostly unnoticed here. Trek is really obscure here, and the new film failed to do much at the bo in Korea and Japan. Trek made over 70% of its money domestically, so that pretty much tells you that it stiffed in the non-english speaking parts of the world...
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is popular, trek is well known and all the tv shows play on tv there...
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great read, very interesting stuff.....
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I re-read my question and realized I didn't complete it. It sounds kind of dumb, but I was thinking about TOS. It's good to know that there's a burgeoning SF community in SA.@Yackbacker—That article just made my day. Cheers!
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Eh...not so much, no. He left his mark on the series, but there's considerably more to WHO than just his tenure.
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his Dr. is legion to me. And, of course, K-9.
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for how many times you can post hate about something, not just winning actually but writing all new records that are unlikely to ever be beaten.
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Talk about no fucking life. - This guy has been on the rag about this movie for six months now. HahaHahahaHahahaHahahaHahaha. LOSER
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Well unlikely to be around in 15 years time
Think music will only be downloaded, CD's won't exist in the next 5 years, or will be novelties like records are now.
Movies and TV series, perhaps another 10 years at most, all depends on download speeds, think storage will keep up.
The one information storage device I least want to see go is the oldest, books.
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South Africa as we only got tv in 1976, actually I believe we were the last country in the world to get tv. This was because of the extreme right wing National Party(Apatheid)government wanting to control the type of information South Africans could get. We were fighting a war in Angola against the Communists (similar to Vietnam) and the average South African was not even aware it was happening lol..But TNG, DS9, and Voyager have all been shown on SA tv, and are actually better known than TOS if you can believe it....
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cool, love how he treats studio execs, like the scumbags they are ..lol
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Nice find.
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outdoing theaters and TV signals. Why, because computer servers right now are a fucking joke, and you have to pay up the ass for a cable bill. Can you imagine your cable bill in 20 years?
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There's only been investigations of Aliens? But what about the TV series Enterprise? They were discovering strange new aliens and worlds, way before the original series.
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It could've run from 1966 to 1971, ah to dream.
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Oct 20, 2009 2:50:49 AM CDT
Every nerd has had that fantasy, What if, just one more season
by orionsangels
So much so, that they actually make it themselves and post it on Youtube.
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will you be able to see it in 3D in Asia?
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Oct 20, 2009 3:22:06 AM CDT
ever notice how the shittier shows have a million seasons
by takingscorpioscalls
while the best always get that pity bowl of stew, and damn does it taste nice and filled with wonder, but then they close the doors and it's back into the cardboard box. I mean they even had to FIGHT to get TOS a 3rd season, what kind of an abrupt can of shit is that? what kind of a cruel universe do we live in? I looked at the tally another poster did up there TOS having 3 seasons, enterprise even thumbs its nose with 4 seasons. TNG and the rest 7 effing seasons?!?! 7 seasons of people always sitting in basements, getting anal from chairs fucking TALKING with one another, their tongues and upper parts of their mouths constantly fucking each other??? while kirk and gang do neverending FLYIND SIDEWAYS KICKS into the rubberized minions of the galaxy.
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Love the show but did anyone else notice the change in Kirk and Spocks personalities in the 3rd season?They just didn't seem like they were having as much fun or something.Nowhere near as much of the humour that was in the first 2 seasons.I read that Shatner didn't want Kirk to show as much emotion in front of the crew which makes sense technically but the character just didn't seem as cool/fun or whatever.
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in the future??
or its a better business plan for them,to keep making mainstream st movies?
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I spent nearly £200 buying these on DVD a few years ago, and no way am i going to shell out another small fortune to buy them again! Im sick of all these new extra features that are being put out there! I want to get blu ray but i will wait until Star Wars is released so i can buy those again for the hundreth time!
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of 3D screens here. Personally I plan on seeing it in regular ol 2D first as I have never seen a 3D film in my life and I dont want my initial reaction to be altered by 3D. I want to see how and if the film plays in 2D first.
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I'm with you, i want a new ST tv show but i dont see it happening for the forseeable future.
There were plans before the film went into production, set after Enterprise with the Romulan war taking centre stage, but when the film really started gathering speed it was shelved. Look for it on here, i remember there being a big feature.
The problem with making a show now is, all the new fans who have seen the latest film will be expecting to see that transfered onto the small screen, and that just aint gonna happen because no TV show will have a budget for it.
I know most ST fans dont care about the budget, but all the newer fans will, which are the one Paramount will be more concerned with them.
But imagine the possibilties now available to a ST tv show, do whatever you want with it. I'm tempted to send them my series that i wrote a few years back. I did seven seasons worth of stories, and fully scripted the first season. I was bored. -
I am thinking about that. But I wonder will there be the same problems there are now? Won't the way media is encoded change over time? There are also current problems (which will be taken care of with time) with quality. MP3's are not even CD quality, let alone vinyl quality. There are lossless recording formats, but to amass any sizable collection takes up a lot of space. I had HDTV, but I still DVR'ed almost everything in non Hd because of the space limitations on my cable company provided DVR.
Also, I still like physical objects. I own a lot of books and the kindle is not a substitute yet. If they develop larger, collapsible screens and intuitive page manipulation (and the iPhone interface is a good start) -
...I may invest in an electronic reader.
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i believe that will be the future eventually,if our world is not destroyed until then.every information will be accessible in a vast,superfast worldwide network,the grandchild of internet,and we wont need any kind of storage formats or mediums.we will plug ourselves in the net,and we will watch the movies directly sreaming to our sensor optics.
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Duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
for almost 6 months he's been demonstrating he's only made of shit. -
I can only speak for the last DVd edition of TOS (the one with the CGI upgrated SFX), but i say if they put half the effort on the blu-ray the same they did on those DVDs, then it will look magnificent.
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...have his dirty little hands in this blu-ray release? It seems everything JJ "Hack" Abrams does involves some kind of parallel time warped universe, from Lost to Fringe to, now, Star Trek. This guy's like a one trick pony already.
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Most Yanks only exposure to Dr. Who was Tom Baker on PBS. I know it has a long history both pre and post Baker, but the Baker episodes kind of distill Dr. Who into its essence, or at least to Americans taste: a bug eyed, eccentric Brit w/a long coat, floppy hat and a scarf that goes on forever traveling through time in a phone booth. The other incarnations seems to miss the mark or come off as stuffy.
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Oct 20, 2009 10:00:22 AM CDT
Flying sideways kicks into the rubberized minions of the galaxy
by crimson dynamo
awesome. I also love it when Kirk would jump in the air and do the double-karate-chop move the neck
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cmon Harry - edit option please!
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I didn't think I had so much more to learn about Jim Cameron after the hours and hours of documentaries I've seen about him but wow! Also I love that our various slams were mentioned. THUNDERCATS HOOOOOO!
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...is that fuck-knob STILL harping on about Star Trek?
You need to be re-diagnosed, AssLives, because I don't think "high-funtioning autistic" is going to cut it any more. -
... i really want the next Trek movie to be directed by Jar Jar Abrams and writen by Porci and Klutzman. I want to have many good laughs at how incompetent the movie will be made and how stupid and dumb the plot will be, with the added bonus of cliched and misguided characterizations and terrible dialogue. It will be a hoot, it will be the comedy of the year. If different people end up making the new Trek movie, i'll be very very disapointed.
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Hi compadre, how are you? In Portugal we only got Star Trek TOS in the late 70s. I was a toddler when it was aired. i remmebered very little of it, and i think the episodes were all shuffled and shown without any order, to the point they showed episodes of diffeent series the week after.Have you seen the TOS already? I saw the whole of it very recently, and i have to say, the more i know about it, the more i respect and love it. You should check it out.
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helicopters versus pterodactyls,” he said.
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the danger is palpable even though the FX are simple, which goes to show it's the story & actors that really sell any great show/movie. also, i am in favor of flying sidekicks at all times in all contexts.
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What makes you think DocPaz gives a shit about Jesus?
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J.J. Abrams' "Star Trek" and I STILL don't get your hate. The main issues I have with it are the 'red matter' plot device and the lack of a clearly defined goal for Kirk. Spock has the most pathos and the strongest character arc. Also, because all the characters are young, I don't see any problem with Uhuru being slightly 'bratty'—for lack of a better word.It's an introduction to the world of early Trek, not a 'Solaris' depiction of SF ideas, so every character isn't fully matured yet. Yeah, there are some convenient devices (Spock on the ice planet, etc), but do those really destroy the movie for you? Really? I don't see any comparison with Michael Bay's work at all. It seems closer to John McTiernan's work in tone.Anyway, I enjoy TOS and the new VFX are fitting although they take getting used to if you're accustomed to the old shows. Naturally, Harlan Ellison's work towers above the rest with "City on the Edge of Forever" IMO.
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-about the relative quality of Goats in the greater Oporto area. He prefers them w/ a Lisbon accent-
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That is all.
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The posts are eerily familiar.
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If it makes you cum harder.
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Never thought of that. But I'll give it a try when your wife starts to tickle my balls.Zing!
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Lost Jarv is away on holiday for a week. I don't think he's this 'Goatfucker' bloke.
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the animation itself is anal puss!
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The animation was stiffer than a board, though. You'd think animation could be able to do anything with Trek, but the kept reusing the same shots over and over.
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-he jest calls'em as he sees'em=
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What's up you crazy bastard!Nah, the goatfucker guy is not me. However, my money is on Series7.
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i was exposed to this the most when catching it on tv it would somehow be a s3 ep. some of my favorite episodes are from here like the ok corral one, elaan of troyus, and the one where the evil federation commander uses tribes for evil, as well as kirok of course. Also noticed by this season they seemed to be more technically impressive with the cinematography/cameras and art direction. Some of those were really artsy, more handheld types like an overhead view of a pool table or a real epic one of handheld shot following Kirk as he enters the command room. Plus the sets seemed to get more atmospheric using color and light more confidentally.
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It's easily the worst season. My favorite is Season 2 - you get classics like Tribbles, Doomsday Machine, Amok Time, etc, Classic.
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...when you need him?
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but yeah s3. also calling it the worst TOS season, is like saying taht nugget of gold is less shiny than the other nugget of gold.
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where Kirk is in a fever and the only way to bring him out of it is for a hot tribal chick to have some kind of voodoo orgasm?At least I think that's what she was doing.It was very funny.
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But don't take the World Seriously...That's IT! The World SERIES!!!!
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-it's from '73, it's done by Filmation-you know, He-Man? Fat Albert? the Archies? Groovie Goolies? Batmite? Tarzan? My Favorite Martians? Even as a 7 year old back there-I knew--their animating was SHIT. But occ. in some of those shows the content-Trek, Fat Albert, etc-was enough to make you give the crappy animation a pass and just go w/ it. Although I always enjoyed Batmite.
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If you love TOS, you'll enjoy the fuck out of TAS. Is it groundbreaking television? No! It's a cartoon, you naysayers! And it's pure TREK. DC Fontana ran the show and in Dorothy we trust.
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...call all the ego-challenged fanboys who trash Abrams' film to massage their false sense of superiority!!!!
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in the last 2 or 3 years, and yes they really do make you appreciate just how damn awsome Trek was originally. You also have to love just how 1960s it all is lol....
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us know already dude, but its a well written article that has some pretty funny/interesting stuff imho. And what he says about over-obsessive basement dwelling internet dorks is pretty funny and pretty damn spot on...
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here, but I just dont get Dr Who, I ve tried watching it several times, and god help me I cant get through it. What is the appeal exactly?
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He's witty like Shatner (read those "City On The Edge Of Forever" spoof titles) and he's insane in that lovable Shatner way. Asimov, are you the Priceline Negotiator? Cheers, buddy!
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Did you forget that? Yes the animation ain't that good but you know why it's a pretty legitimate Trek series? because they had the same writers from TOS. that alone pretty much makes it wholly legitimate. Oh and i'm in the TAS=TOS S4 camp.
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new yorker article? Some of it was damn classic imho...I particularly loved the stuff about him having his own fire truck and oxygen masks, and when there are huge fires he just stays there and rides it out lol....
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How fucking cool would that be?
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Podcast is on itunes, search for Dan Burden's podcast and check it out. I know it is a bit shit but give it a go.
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Oct 21, 2009 5:16:59 AM CDT
They should have done an alternate versoin of 'The Trouble with
by yodas_dad
...featuring Sisko, Dax, O'Brian, Bashir, etc. in the background of the scenes they were in, in the DS9 episode 'Trials and Tribbleations'.
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C'mon, I know Paramount has the coin to redo the animation - its not like they don't make a shitload of money off of Trek.
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The guys there have a hard on for DS9, but other than that, it's good.
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Well, as long as I'm being insulted, let me just say: Trek XI was made to appeal to 12 year-olds of sub-average intelligence, suffering from attention deficit disorder. HA! Just kidding. Maybe.
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I'm just trying to figure out the formatting for posting.
Obviously, I'm new to this.
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