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Chaos Reigns As Foxes Fantastic And Satanic Collide!!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Beaks here...
Having seen and greatly admired Lars von Trier's ANTICHRIST, I would highly recommend that you avoid this whole "Chaos Reigns!" meme until you get a chance to check the movie out for yourself. It opens theatrically next Friday, October 23rd, and will be available On Demand beginning Wednesday, October 21st. You can wait - and I think you'll be glad you did. Because this motherfucker is going to soil your soul, Jack! (For more, visit IFC Films' website.)
TURN BACK NOW! SPOILERS A-COMIN'!
For those of you who want in on the meme early, here's the deal: there's a scene in von Trier's psychological horror film - which turns into a big ol' snip-and-smash body horror film in the third act - where Willem Dafoe happens upon a not-so-kindly fox in the middle of the most sinister forest on Earth. It's a genuinely terrifying moment in the context of the film. Then the fox talks. Reactions to this most unexpected turn of events vary.
New York Magazine's Vulture blog, which boorishly spoiled the film's third act craziness in a freaking headline during the Cannes Film Festival, has the video.
And now, thanks to my pal Peter Debruge, this madness has infected the stop-motion world of Wes Anderson's THE FANTASTIC MR. FOX.
I have no idea if this is going to translate into significant business for von Trier's film, but I implore all horror fans to choose ANTICHRIST over SAW VI next weekend. And once the movie's done smashing your junk, you should buy the t-shirt from Mondo Tees!
I'll be back next week with a perfectly confounding Lars von Trier interview. Chaos reigns, my friend.
TURN BACK NOW! SPOILERS A-COMIN'!
For those of you who want in on the meme early, here's the deal: there's a scene in von Trier's psychological horror film - which turns into a big ol' snip-and-smash body horror film in the third act - where Willem Dafoe happens upon a not-so-kindly fox in the middle of the most sinister forest on Earth. It's a genuinely terrifying moment in the context of the film. Then the fox talks. Reactions to this most unexpected turn of events vary.
New York Magazine's Vulture blog, which boorishly spoiled the film's third act craziness in a freaking headline during the Cannes Film Festival, has the video.
And now, thanks to my pal Peter Debruge, this madness has infected the stop-motion world of Wes Anderson's THE FANTASTIC MR. FOX.
I have no idea if this is going to translate into significant business for von Trier's film, but I implore all horror fans to choose ANTICHRIST over SAW VI next weekend. And once the movie's done smashing your junk, you should buy the t-shirt from Mondo Tees!
I'll be back next week with a perfectly confounding Lars von Trier interview. Chaos reigns, my friend.
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You mean like via Cable or Satellite? That's weird (but promising, as I don't think it'll play in any theaters in these parts).
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Von trier makes interesting stuff!
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Yep. Easily the widest release of von Trier's career.
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sounds terrible and the spoilers aren't helpin' it.
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I don't care how much AICN tries to build this film up, Lars Von Trier is a rabid anti-American pretentious prick who doesn't deserve a DIME of our hard earned money. Actors who have worked with him in the past have been very vocal about what a prick he is on the set; his pretentious Dogma 95 rules are vapid, showy and pointless. He has never come to the US yet wants to indict it in his films; artistic integrity requires research and moral as well as personal investment (including the time it takes to understand a culture). He's done none of this. This film will fail - and I will be glad to see another one of his overrated bloat-works go the way of the dodo. Fuck him.
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There's no connection between any of the live action and stop motion. Pretty weak IMO. For a good trailer parody try "The Shining".
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Not just for Von Trier's anti-American sentiment, but for the simple fact that this flick is absolutely fucking awful on every level. Like...REALLY awful. Anyone who likes this flick is a deeply disturbed person who should be taken out of genetic circulation.
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TAINT GOT BANNED!
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I fucking don't remember it being like that in Uncle Walt's 'The Fox & The Hound'.
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for me, this was arthouse torture porn. what great moments it had were completely devalued by this "I gotta shock em and make em puke!" mentality that the film devolves into. truly a shame. Von Trier (like Vincent Gallo and a host of others) has to solid a belief that he is so utterly and completely a genius, that anything he decides to put on screen is going to be staggeringly brilliant.this movie had some very captivating parts, but on the whole it's really pretty worthless. on the other hand, if you like all the Hostel movies, but are consistently bothered that they don't go far enough in the graphic violence department, this movie is for you! anyone else, best to skip it.
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I will "Do the Mario" tonight and think of him when I look at the night sky....
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There'd be no movies left to watch. There are a lot of insanely talented creative folk who have the political maturity of an eleven year old girl; you just have to put up with it.
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Awesome.
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I'm not into torture porn which is what it seems to be from all that I've read. All the Hostels, Saws and what have yous of the world, really I have no use for them. Blood and gore for the sake of it, what ever happened to horror messing with your head rather than going straight for making you loose your lunch.
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the purest kind...seriously who wrote that foxes lines??? GHAEEEE!!!!!
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It was pretty straight forward gore. The only thing "chaosy" was talking animals barging in on the "action". That and there's no anti-christ. The movie sucks.
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i've been looking for a good companion piece to "the room," and from what i've read this could be it.
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with no real idea of whether I'd be intrigued or disappointed. Instead, I couldn't help but start laughing. Sometimes things are creepy, and sometimes they're just goofy. This falls into the latter camp.
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Oct 14, 2009 4:41:49 PM CDT
This is NOT a horror film, you've been warned.
by chronicallydepressedlemming
It's a seriously weird art movie with some fucked up imagary. If you are trying to find some kind of plot concerning an ACTUAL Antichrist then you'll be dissapointed. It's obtuse and tbh, not that good. Just seriously fucked up.
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I saw this in Glasgow...And i kid u not about 20 people left just out of boredom, its not a film you can revisit again and again...Once is enough, but check it out if you're curious...
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fuckin corny.
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Oct 14, 2009 4:46:04 PM CDT
Omar B, the different is with those films you mentioned..
by chronicallydepressedlemming
Your Saws, your Hostiles...they actually have a plot and don't make you feel like you've just watched the produce of that kid from your grade school who killed cats and pulled the legs off frogs and shit.
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Ninja Zombie Nazis
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I watched it about a week ago after reading a review here. It was utter crap. I liked the opening sex scene in slow motion but aside from that, this movie was crap.
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This is not an overstatement. It is how it is. The difference between Antichrist and Skank Trek is like the diffference betweens Portugal and americas in the World Cup (i am talking 'soccer' here).Whereas Antichrist connects on a totally visceral level (without being overly visceral itself), Skank Trek is very shallow and is like drinking diet coke. No, it is worst than diet coke. It is like drinking poison. And remembers that the poison is being given to you by an ass man like Jar Jar Abrams and his media army.Antichrist may not be FUUUUN FUUUUN FUUUN (as the apologists of Skank Trek often tell us because they live within the sphere of their own dream-like world where appologies are much the same as statements which are worth something more than opinions), but it is truly visceral and will appeal to those who connect to movies on a visceral level but don't enjoy watching visceral detailings on the screen.I am not the only one to notice this but am the only one to point it out, or should i say is bravest enough to point it out, because there are those who would not point it out even though it needs to be pointed out. i am that person. i tell you how it is and i am proud of that fact.
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Sure to be a cult classic. It's just so friggin' weird.
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It does all of the things a horror movie does and more. I can't stand Von Trier, but thought this was an incredible movie, and one which scared the crap out of me. Shame Shyamalan didn't see this before making The Happening, as Von Trier and Anthony Dod Mantle do an amazing job of making nature look utterly terrifying.
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"Chaos... reigns!" Laughable. THAT is why I don't trust this site's recommendations. Fucking stupidest shit I've seen in a while...
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Oct 14, 2009 5:24:06 PM CDT
This movie is fucking awful, another gem from the self-proclaime
by flea circus
I haven't seen any Saw movies but at least they're honest with what their peddling. Antichrist is the same shock for shock sake shit that Saw is but is trying to mask it with bad art. This film is obtuse. Just because it's slow as shit doesn't mean it has meaning. The fox is also the funniest thing I've seen in a long while. It's voice and look is literally ripped from the Neverending Story.
If you do watch the movie here is what you can look forward to seeing:
Stunt cock going in.
Baby falling to it's death in super slow motion.
Overacting.
The film's star without her pants on for most of the movie.
Said woman crush her husband nuts with a block, then jerking him off until he comes blood.
Woman cutting off her clit with a pair of rusty scissors.
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I'm gonna pass on this too. Ever since Harry built up Cabin Fever like it was the second coming, I have really, really low expectations when it comes to horror recommendations from this site.
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Trier is a fucking idiot. That's TRIER by the way, there is no VON, because the pretentious, deluded, self-involved talent-vacuum appended that to himself, as an "artistic" affectation. AntiChrist is no better and has no more cinematic merit than the nastier of the 70s/80s "video nasties" (as we called 'em in England). Correction. It has LESS. Because at least those were made without the high-handed pretense of being anything other than gory, bad taste, mysoginistic exploitation. It's endlessly unfuriating how, just because this prick hails himself as an "artist" and a visionary, the cognoscenti at film festivals no fucker cares about actually indulge him. He's below Eli Roth (who I have no opinion either way on, but some on here seem to hate), he's below anyone involved with "Saw 65". And there is no debate to be had. The inherent mysoginism rampant in AntiChrist is a-fucking-stonishing.
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Oct 14, 2009 5:42:37 PM CDT
PRETENTIOUS BULLSHIT. Way less intellectual or important than LV
by the green gargantua
Seriously. I am all for art and horror. I believe their separation to be the major flaw in most of the failed attempts within the genre, but this is a turd. A beautifully shot turd, but still a turd. Yes it is awesome to behold a fox quoting black metal lyrics. The use of the forrest to embody ultimate primal evil is also awesome. My problem is LVT thinks that what is happening between the actors is compelling when it is actually generating the wrong kind of agony. Psychodrama? No, bullshit yes.
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all of his movies are shit. People call him a genius, but its like the emperores new clothes..no one has the balls to call them the pretentious shit they really are. He should be banned from making films.
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Please stop with the fucking promotion already. A terrible fucking film that is neither visceral nor even coherent. Even the title is dumb in the context of the film. Skip Saw AND this shit. Go buy or rent a good horror film.
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That is the most important thing you will find in this Talkback.AsimovIsFuckingDead - well done. Currently, your parody genius has no rival. I expect that you shall be duly enshrined in the Halls of AICN.
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It's empty, shallow, pointless, laughable and extremely pretentious. And I got the points it was trying to make - I didn't just saw the talking fox and laugh at it speaking, I understood what Von Trier wanted to say about nature vs human nature, the torment of the female character, etc. But it's hollow and thus it renders it dumb and shocking for the sake of it. Someone above compared it to The Happening but even that, for all of its silliness, is a better film than this.
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I like this type of film and I respect the filmmaker and all involved; however, the finished product is beyond bad, and why this site, which currently tends to avoid covering so many movies lately, has decided to give this POS so much attention is confusing to put it mildly.
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He does art-house horror so much better than Von Trier.
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Which cinema in Glasgow was it playing on? GFT?
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Needs more grammatically incorrect profanity, but otherwise... genius.
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This film was a pretentious piece of garbage. Awful. Boring. Vastly over-rated as an important film. Agree it's not a horror film , just horrible. Thank God I didn't pay to see it. Seriously, don't waste your time. If you want to see sex, rent a porn it's gotta be better than this. To each his own but avoid this like H1N1.
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I'll watch anything that looks remotely new and scary. I was on the train today discussing possibly going to see Paranormal Activity.
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http://tiny.cc/dXi9G
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Don't understand the love for this movie.....Don't understand the wide release... But maybe it's just beyond my grasp......... Love diet coke though.........:-)
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What a piece of shit this man is. His comments about America reek of ignorance considering he's never stepped foot in the country. That being said, I'd watch the shit out of his movies if they were any good...but they're not. I do admit I haven't seen all of them, hell, I've only seen about half of them, but I've seen all of his heralded movies and at best I say: meh. Von Trier seems to make art for the sake of art, and that mentality is not artistic. His imagery is not inspired even though it seems all of it is created for the sole purpose of wanting people to think that it's inspired. The general consensus for this film seems to be very bad. The only good things I've heard about it come from critics who seem to want people to think that they're smart enough or intuitive enough to "get it," and most hold an elitist stance at the regular folk honest enough to admit that it sucks whether you "get it" or not. I'll check it out, but I won't shell out any money to line the pockets of this angry and bigoted prick behind the camera. If i like it, I'll admit it, something I don't believe Von Trier would do for anything I created, good or not.
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"A violently beautiful pornographic 80s Obsession Commercial that wishes it at least had a message or why would you put yourself though this film" or...Anti-Christ is a messy confusing piece of art with a meaning so far above anything I can wrap my mind around and subject matter so dark I actually felt the same way I did when I watched Irreversible...I needed a shower and a good 30 minutes watching Tom and Jerry to try and get over it..If this is any example of what is going on in Vons head ,..now that must be a scary place to be
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It's no surprise many people hate this film, yet their hate comes from sheer ignorance of the themes and religious metaphors that are on full display.
If you'd like to read a thoughtful analysis of Trier's excellent movie, why not give Roger Ebert's brillaint defense of the film a shot:
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How did this become about Star Trek-Dude you need to let go of the JJ hate! It's consuming WAY to much of your energy.
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If an artist has to explain what his piece means would you consider that a good thing?..The movie effects you big time so as my def of art ,..it is... I just didnt care for it
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but is anyone else annoyed by these "Paranormal Activity" ads. Its scary, I get it...you're overhyping it, I get it.
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Oct 14, 2009 9:05:05 PM CDT
Anybody remember Neil Cumpston? I want him to review this.
by the real mcclane
Where the hell did that guy go, anyway? Best writer on the site for a long while. http://tinyurl.com/8wywla
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can NOT fucking wait to see this movie, on opening night, only because everyone will laugh their ass off, and i love to be in audiences that laugh.
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specially the ridiculous talking fox. So intellectual, he's just too smart for us, this trier fellow. And his fans too, they're just too smart for us. I bet his fans masturbate during that fox scene, because of how the intellectual contents of the scene arouses them. It's so poignant how the fox burps out "chaos reigns". So deep, so many layers to that. To some, the silly ass talking fox steals the movie. But in the real world, the true intellectuals would be those that dismiss this utter nonsense. chaos reigns... gimme a fucking break
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I am amazed at the support of Antichrist. Have we seen the same movie? It was AWFUL! About that "chaos Reigns" part, I found it absolutely laughable, which is a shame cause I hoped the animals would be creepy. Anyway, the movie is arthouse (which doesn't necessary mean good) slow, boring, pretentious, misogynistic, not horror and has nothing to do with Antichrist whatsoever.
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Yep.
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Strange to say the least...if that was a real fox actually taking a bite out of itself, Von Trier needs to be nut-kicked as soon as possible. I ain't no Green Peace nutjob and I enjoy a hunt now and again (while using everything I can for the animal, especially for food), if the guy actually filmed an injured animal for the sake of this apparent shit-eating film, I hope he burns for it...in more way than one.
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*SPOILERS*SPOILERS*SPOILERS*SPOILERS*
At the end of the film, was that scene with the women walking toward the cabin supposed to be ambigious? Or was Von Trier saying something along the lines of "Women are corruptible (EVE),Men aren't (Adam),but corruption will always outnumber goodness"?....The movie was "bugnuts insane" but the ending left me at a wierd place. -
In my nightmares, tonight.
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No matter how much of an intellectual contortionist Ebert must be to even defend this pretentious a-hole.
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...the wolf from The Never Ending Story. Not sure if anyone had made that comment or not. Oh well.
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Notice how in the description of this article, Beaks has to point out "Oh, this is really scary and sinister in context." Because without context, it's as fucking hilarious and stupid as a FAMILY GUY segue'. You know as well as I do that by next season Mr. Herbert will have his little dog stare at Chris and go "Chaos ... REIGNS!"
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Is it another camping trip gone wrong movie? A reimagining of Are We There Yet? oooooor what. All I know is everyone hates this movie and it has a talking fox.
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I totally can see that being in a Family Guy episode. That actually might make it a better show.
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... features a scene where Cindy is walking through the woods and a fox goes "Chaos REIGNS!" followed a few steps later by a bear cub that says "Only you can prevent forest fires" followed by a lynx that says "WELCOME TO WAL-MART!" and then a dog that's licking itself saying "WHAT'RE YOU LOOKIN' AT, BITCH?" You know it'll be in there.
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You're -totally- right. That IS the Gmork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDHBZlSNO6w
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You're -totally- right. That IS the Gmork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDHBZlSNO6w
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The fox truly is Gmork.
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if the Swamp of Sadness is in this movie as well.
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... to the first person who can do a banner for me, and link it here, that mixes CHAOS REIGNS AND THE FOX on top and the GMORK underneath with the same font/look but with the words FANTASIA HAS NO BOUNDARIES! Seriously - there's gotta be a talented Photoshop person here who can do this for me? PLEASE? I'm begging you. You'll get credit, and it'll go up on Spymunk's Borrow. PLEASE?
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... RAINS!
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Problem is I lack the internet. I'm using a dumbed down version on my Wii. My computer is without a wireless card.
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... IS IN CHARGE!
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I suggest strongly that the next person who is attending any showing of this movie where LVT is present in the audience should heckle. When the fox speaks, stand up, raise your left arm and say "COME FOR ME GMORK! I AM ATREYU!"
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God bless it, but I just didn't get it.
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Atreyu vs. William Defoe
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He's got better-styled hair. And Atreyu has Reincarnation Horse.
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And that's all I have to say about that.
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REININ UR POKEYMANZ.
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Now I got that stupid 'Do the Mario' song stuck in my head.
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next year. MARK MY WORDS. They have all gone so far over the top in their selection process towards, "look how smart and erudite we are," meanwhile the movies are un-fucking-watchable, have no skill, no craft, nothing interesting going on, and CERTAINLY no story. I just don't see how they can continue. Normal people, distributors, and sponsors are starting to see many of them for what they are, and are just staying away. And what's funny is that if you're in that world, everyone has this, "The sky is falling!" thing going on where they're like, "The model is changing, there's no more money from studios so you gotta self-promote, where is the new model? how do we survive?! Make a film and then twitter and blog the shit out of it!"... meanwhile, MAKE A GOOD FUCKING MOVIE THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO WATCH AND THE AUDIENCE WILL FIND IT. Actually no, I don't think they will, because I know that festivals are now completely ignoring decent movies in favor of all the Von Trier wannabes on the circuit. They all do program a few good horror films now and then, but I only need point to the fact that the same year Paranormal Activity was rejected, another horror film that had a decent concept but mediocre and sometimes bad execution got in. Why? Oh, but of course the people who made it played another festival that one of the big Sundance honchos run and they became buddy-buddy. Guess the Paranormal Activity guys didn't know anyone on the inside... but they're laughing all the way to the bank now, aren't they? Ok, rant over...
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PAYOLA ... REIGNS!
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Oct 15, 2009 12:12:31 AM CDT
very good movie, but don't watch it expecting a slashfest
by miyamoto_musashi
For what we expect as horror these days (i.e. non-thing slash fests)its really a horror-drama, that deals with loss, and the way it exmanies loss and how one couple try to cope with it is incredible.
The performances are both very good, cinematogrophy excellent.
My major dislike was that a couple of scenese are a bit over the top and not required (well we didn't need to see it to get the impact), they are two gory scenes.
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why is it that people who don't know things always use the same two keyphrases in their posts? "Hard earned money" and "go the way of the dodo". Can we ban anyone in the future who refers to their money as hard earned? Really? Did you get paid for bringing down a mastodon or for typing numbers and letters into a computer file? And leave the dodo's out of your idiotic posts. As one conservative to, i assume, another, please learn a few new phrases. Or better yet don't post that shit here. This isn't michael moore. no one is looking to Von Trier for his thoughts on American politics. This film isn't even about Americans or America. Stop being a donkey's prolapsed asshole.
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This was a very pretty movie. The ideas portrayed in it were pretty crazy.... But the imagery was absolutely beautiful.
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it was about a month ago i saw it, so i might get a few facts wrong, but here's a general idea of what happens.. SPOILERS!!in the first shot willam defoe and his wife are having sex. (it's rather graphic, and shows penetration) while they're doing it, their son climbs up on the window sill, slips, and falls to his death. Fast forward, willam defoe's character is trying to help his wife cope with her guilt and fear. So he brings her to a cabin in the woods that she had worked in before, but was afraid of. there is imagery of 3 different animals having with stillborn babies. (in the wolf scene the mother is chewing the embryo from her stomach.) stuff happens, turns out the 'antichrist' is women. they're evil. willam defoe's wife had been cruel to their son his whole life (putting his shoes on the wrong feet.. either to keep him submissive, or because of negligence.. i didnt care enough to interpret meaning.) also she was watching as he fell out the window, but kept having sex. then the movie degrades into torture porn as she goes nuts on her husband.. pulling a 'Misery' on him so he cant leave, smashing his penis, then as he's passed out from the pain she jerks him off until he ejaculates blood. (they show everything) then she cuts off her clitoris (they, once again, show everything) goes a little more nuts.. husband kills her, escapes, hobbles out of the forest.. is met by droves of women walking towards him, in a 'this doesnt make sense, so it must be artsy' ending. now you dont have to see it.
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thats all anyone with a brain needs to knnow..LVT is a wanker..Kingdom was not bad, but his feature films have been unadulterated sensationalistic WANK with a monster capital W. the reviews of this film by any critic with a brain, perfectly capable of getting horror, art, shock etc have all been luke warm, which says to me its total shit..yet again.
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Makes perfect sense. They're the ghosts of the women Charlotte Gainsbourg was talking about earlier. Defoe sees the scale of the crimes men have committed against women in the past, and sees that he is part of that crime now.
I go back and forth on whether this is a misogynist film, but a lot of that is the baggage Von Trier brings with him (Dancer in the Dark, Breaking the Waves, Manderlay, Dogville & The Idiots, to a certain extent) are about mistreatment of women (to put it mildly), so that suggests the same thing is happening here, but I read that scene as either a comment on how crimes have been committed against women because others cannot understand the extremes of their emotion (don't forget Von Trier made this after suffering from a depression, and that experience has informed his viewpoint), or as a typical contrarian fuck you to everyone who thought he was making a movie about how it's justified to kill a woman because they're crazy and irrational. Maybe it's both.
In the past I've disliked Von Trier because of the disdain he shows for his audience (Dancer in the Dark is easily my least favourite movie ever), but in this he seems more interested in how his brain malfunctioned during his breakdown, and has tried to dramatise that. Plus, of course, the usual audience-baiting harshness of the movie. For once, though, he didn't seem to be mocking the conventions of the genre or the artifice of the form, and even if he was, Anti-Christ is upsetting and unsettling and emotionally visceral and fucking scary, just like a horror film should be. It's the best thing he's done in eons. And Anthony Dod Mantle's photography is so beautiful it makes up for the garish over-lighting and dutch tilts in the heinous Slumdog Millionaire. I'd definitely recommend this too. -
God bless you, you glorious bastard.
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Yikes! LOL! Oh, god! Everytime I might even think to maybe see this... someone reminds me of Dancer In The Dark; now that's Torture Porn! I even somewhat like Bjork, but damn that movie made me think suicidal thoughts. :-/
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the film here in Europe,that it is not that good,probably one of Triers weakest films.anyway.
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So is the fox's voice supposed to be really low, or is that just an artifact of the slow motion?
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you would think LVT is another Michael Bay. Well, I don’t think he makes intellectual wank. In fact, I don’t think his movies are intellectual at all, as in hard to understand. Granted, his movies are never ‘fun’ but NOBODY walks the line between profound cinema drama and sappy melodrama like he does. In the hands of a lesser director ‘Dancer in the Dark’ and ‘Breaking the Waves’ would have been downright laughable but now these movies were masterpieces. ‘Breaking the Waves’ had one of the best uses of special effects ever.
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I simply won't be giving him another dime of my movie ever ever ever fucking ever again.
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But here is one that does....
http://tinyurl.com/yh79a5n
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and will probably see it. But the dogme 95 style is stupid and pointless and should have been a simple one tme experiment. If he had a contest with his brethern to see who could make the best film given the restrictions, I could understand it, but to adopt it as your style is pretentious.
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kinda like how I skim the talkbacks for posts from staff, Id like to be able to skim the m for AzimovisFuckingdead. thanks!
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I thought DOGVILLE and MANDERLAY were good movies. The world of films is richer for them. They were each uncomfortable watches, but very entertaining. THE FIVE OBSTRUCTIONS is great too. Oh - of course no one talked about that because instead of being all controversial it was just good.
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Can anyone summarize without spoilers what this fliq is about?
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That's what's coo' about movies; Oldman can be the dirtiest cop ever in Professional and then be the best one every in The Dark Knight. Ving can be a macho gangster in Pulp Fiction and hate being assfucked and then be in Chuck and Larry as a homosexual. Anyways, can anyone summarize the plot of this movie?
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Beaks got to interview Lars? Good lord...
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You'll be pleased to know Anti-Christ is the total opposite of dogme 95. It's hyper-hyper-hyper stylised.
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Except...Lars is a god.
That's a fact.
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You are all some rigid motherfuckers.
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is WAY more profound than just, "Chaos Reigns". Chaos reigns, really? Would you care to expound upon that? The animal kingdom seems pretty ordered to me, so are you referring to the world of humans? EHHHHH, wrong again, human history just goes up and down up and down... like clockwork. Empires rise, empires fall, same shit, different century, usually due to the same shit, over and over again. We are condemned to repeat the past, just in a lot more technologically advanced ways. Also, WHAT A GODDAMNED RIPOFF of Gmork... and wow, I haven't watched Neverending Story since I was probably 11. It looks like it kind of holds up... it still creeps me the fuck out with nearly every frame. Probably even more so now than when I was a kid. The FX may not hold up, but only if you're talking in terms of looking realistic. The thing about practical FX and puppets when they're done really well is like what Kubrick said about acting - "Yes, it's real, but is it interesting?" Those practical FX in movies like Neverending Story are a thousand times more interesting than all the CGI shitfests combined.
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I'm not a fan, but the movie DOES look visually stunning, I'll give it that. I'm just saying, I hate when 'artists' spew random shit expecting everyone to ferret out the deep meaning of their work... whether or not the mental olympics is worth it depends upon the track record of the artist. I'm not sure LVT is worth it, as I think it really is a lot of random shit thrown at the screen for shock effect. I love the idea of a talking forest animal showing up 2/3's of the way into a movie... matter of fact, it'd be a good idea to steal and do better than this... but here, it just seems forced and weird for weird's sake, which I hate. But hey, if you enjoy this and find meaning in it, don't let me piss on your parade... enjoy.
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Same level of stupidity, at least. And no life too.
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It's either love or hate. Makes it quite interesting, deosn't it? I guess i rather prefer a very divisible movie then the milquetoast banality we get most of the time.
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This is the biggest cop out argument of the entire lot, it also delusionally ignores the fact that it might ACTUALLY be SHIT or GENIUS. Just because people have a strong reaction to something does not logically suggest there MUST be something there. Otherwise McDonalds would be lauded as great cuisine. Retarded argument..and its always trotted out with wankers like VonTryhard
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If you were to characterize the response the film got out of Canne screenings..'middle opinions' were all there was...
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I think you mean "divisive", not "divisible".
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I couldn't give a flying fuck about this movie. That's my middle opinion. I'm saving my money to buy a few comic books or a novel. I just think the "scary" fox is fucking hysterical bullshit. It's so fucking funny he deserves his own interview show where he only gives two-worod answers with a pause in the middle. "So ... sitcoms?" "Yeah, well, I felt like it was time for a change in my career path." "Career ... path?" "Yes, you know - I started with action, moved on to comedy, then did a suspense picture series for a few years and now I'm taking a dip into the pool of tv sitcoms." "Sounds ... reasonable."
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... I ever put to film was one I entitled GMORK AND MINDY.
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never used either word or meant to
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goddamnit you have that jerkoffs self serving banter down to a fucking art form..and in many less words! Hats off to you sir.
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i think you mean AsshatLives..not me
..he's the grammatically challenged one. He likes to use big words the poor pet. -
"Hey got any shrooms man?" and sounds exactly like Cheech! I seen this movie before.
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my bad.
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"there is no REAL antichrist in it!" "the fox is a rip-off of neverending story"
"von trier hates america!"
Jesus..Some of you should stick to stuff like Transformers 2 and whatever teenage vampire movie is playing. -
Doens't seem you have a middle opinion about the movie. You clearly hate it.Yup, i'm still waiting for an middle of the road opinion of this movie. Haven't found one yet.
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Who said anything about genious? You said it, not me. I said "interesting". Can you detect the difference berween the two concepts?You know, one day you will need to take off your hate glasses and actually read my posts. becasue so far, you understand jack shit about what i say. and not because of grammar, it's pure deturpation from stupid shallow hate. Grow up. Unless you prefer to be DocPazuzu's total bitch instead of being your own man. In that case, carry on.
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Same idiotic failure at a sense of humour. The same idioticy. And the same adoring slave groupies.
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sorry, AssLives. Posting under another name has never been my game. I prefer the head-on tackle. Besides, my talent for mimicry could never be compared to the genius of AsimovIsFuckingDead.
What you should be more concerned about, seeing as how it's completely passing you by, is why so many other people think he's funny. Could it be because so many other people think you're an insufferable tool who is finally getting what he deserves?
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Brilliant I tell you. The first scene is just beautifully tragic.
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i urge anyone to go and see it
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please also let us know if you like Dogville also...then we can know if you're an asshole or not.
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AssHat, you're so lost it's hilarious, just the fact you take yourself so seriously and are actually swallowing the bait so willingly suggests you might have a serious psychological condition. We're not here to fix you..trying to talking to Mummy..she's just upstairs from your basement.
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I think that statement requires framing..with this douchebags name right after it. You're the epitome of self serving and delusional. You've stated your like of LVT's work..too late to start backing out now.
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I think you're going to need to add childish indignation to your routine..he blubbers when he's cornered.
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loved every minute of this.
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