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Thursday 18-49 scores (previous weeks in parentheses):
5.3 (6.0) (6.6) (1.8) Grey’s Anatomy
4.5 (3.7) (3.8) (4.1) The Office
3.7 (4.5) (----) (----) Private Practice
3.4 (4.0) (4.0) (2.0) CSI
3.4 (3.7) (3.7) (3.6) Survivor
3.2 (3.7) (3.4) (1.9) The Mentalist
3.0 (3.7) (4.1) (----) FlashForward
2.8 (2.6) (2.7) (3.2) Bones
2.2 (1.9) (1.8) (2.1) Parks and Recreation
2.1 (2.3) (2.2) (3.1) Fringe
2.0 (2.9) (2.8) (3.8) Community
1.7 (1.6) (1.7) (2.7) The Jay Leno Show
1.7 (1.6) (1.7) (1.6) The Vampire Diaries
1.1 (1.2) (1.2) (1.2) Supernatural
(----) (1.8) (1.8) (2.0) SNL Thursday
Figures in grey are for repeats. Find all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.
* The hour-long Jim/Pam wedding episode gave “The Office” its best numbers of the season.
* “FlashForward” fell another 19%, losing definitively for the first time to “Survivor.”
* With the collapse of “FastForward,” timeslot competitor “Bones” was up and “Parks and Recreation” drew its best number of the season.
* The return of Leonard Nimoy as William Bell failed to keep “Fringe” from its worst overnight score yet.
* “Supernatural,” already way down from last season, hit its season low even as its “Vampire Diaries” lead-in rose a notch.
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It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, dammit!
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And its posting lower numbers then the fricking Vampire Show? Mind you I don't watch live tv but damn. Supernatural is the shit.
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it just goes up against other good shows, Nielsen ratings are out of date, they need to take into account for DVRs. I tape 2 shows that are on at 9, and then watch a third On Demand.....technology is killing good shows because the ratings system sucks balls
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Oct 09, 2009 9:17:38 PM CDT
Yeah, FlashForward didn't waste any time becoming dull...
by rongorongomu
I was so on board with the premise, but it has been squandered in these last two episodes with subplots that have no forward momentum. I'll keep watching, but I'm entirely underwhelmed and now regret recommending it to as many people as I did.
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And has nothing to do with the stupid plot of this series.
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But, yeah, last episode was not must see television. And I watched a DVR copy of it because last night was BASEBALL NIGHT!!! Two thrilling games out of Los Angeles were too much competition for scripted television, thank you very much.
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I like quite a few of those shows, and I think the networks should of spread them out a little more. As the first half of the week, there's not much on. I thin I read supernatural was written to be 5 seasons, so hopefully they give it a noble end. They shouldn't of moved fringe to thursdays, too many other programs to compete with. You're just asking people to DVR it, or watch something else.
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Flashforward wasn't good to begin with. I'm sorry but that really is the case.
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It seems like nothing worth seeing is on Tuesday night at all, but I'm using two DVRs to catch everything on Thursdays. Oh great, so now half of that will get cancelled anyway. TV sucks.
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made me smile.
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I loved the premise, but with those behind the wheel don't have a lot of hope for Flash Forward.
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I would expect the non-fangirl fair to experience lower ratings moving into sweeps.
I am so happy that NBC does not have baseball this year. They would probably cancel it because demos would find the action to dark and gritty. Either that or they would interrupt the games to show Leno. -
How is Parks slowly increasing in popularity and Community is decreasing? Parks is moronic by comparison.
If Fringe goes down it will because Fox moved it Thursdays. They should move it to some other day of the week now before it falls off the map. -
FOX is going to bungle yet another sci-fi show.
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FOX is going to bungle yet another sci-fi show.
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They should swap it with Lie To Me. Lie to Me is just as good a fit with Bones, and Fringe will benefit greatly from the House lead-in.
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Did it? It doesn't look like it according to the list. In fact, it looks like Community is down by almost half since the premiere. But I didn't read the article - the link took me to an article about "Jack" or something.
I do blame Fringe partly for Supernatural's decline and maybe even vice versa. I kinda wish Supernatural was on cable. Maybe it'd get a little more respect. Why the hell is Syfy showing Ghost Whisperer reruns, by the way? Why not Supernatural? -
Even with a Paris Hilton guest spot. Oh, and that Caruso bit in the preview? Funny shit. Low rated, but one of the best.
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Previous three weeks are in parentheses. Current week is not. Survivor beat everything in its timeslot, as is its habit.
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I've long come to terms with the fact that the ratings are low for this show, but what I don't understand is how the ratings have gone down? The show hasn't changed to a new time slot or anything and the quality certainly hasn't dropped. Also who would watch last season and then not tune in for the FREAKIN' APOCALYPSE! Just seems weird to me.
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it's been very interesting to follow. Also love seeing the late night war details.
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like it promotes shit shows. Supernatural is one of the best shows on TV and it gets completely ignored.
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Oct 09, 2009 10:50:17 PM CDT
Why Flashforward doesn't have the same impact as Lost...
by darth_nader
With Lost they would throw something weird out there, and in the corse of a few weeks, some stuff would be explained, but new mysteries would show up. Here they just keep piling them up. Now we have dead crows? BFD...
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While I agree that nielsens are outdated, people that DVR and Tivo get to SKIP commercials so I can see where they wouldn't be counted for much. The whole point of ratings is to use them to sell ad space.
What I'd like to see is atleast let Cable providers allow all their subscribers to let their live watching stats be taken. It would have to be voluntary but it would allow for a HUGE sample size that could be easily automated. I assume there would be no easy way to do that for satellite subscribers. -
That is all
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I've watched every S1 episode but only the S2 premiere. It's the kind of show I try to catch up on when I'm bored, but it's not something I bother to watch live. Especially now that it goes against Supernatural which I like more.
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Some sweet zombie action on SMALLVILLE tonight, even though everything had to be wrapped up neatly in an hour. Erica Durance is the hottest zombie EVER.
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I started reading the book after seeing the pilot of the show. Then I stopped watching the show. The book has some great material - I can see why they thought it would make for a good series. Somehow the show just doesn't do it for me. I think part of it is the six month timeframe (the book had it at twenty years). It feels boldly contrived to set the event date to coincide with the end of the season. Also, I'm sorry but I just don't understand who though Joseph Fiennes would make a good hero - the guy is weak.
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I watched it a couple of times in a row. Erin is hot like very hot fire.
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Durance is freakin' gorgeous as hell. They seem to have toned down her slutty makeup from the past. That's how women's bodies should look. And they gave a nice hint of Superman/Lois as he was carrying her up the stairs.
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Also Lost worked on two levels. It had a complicated long term plot but it also was about people stranded on an island trying to survive which was simple to grasp and immediate. You don't have to care about The Others or Dharma etc to enjoy Lost - for the first couple of seasons at least you can enjoy it on the simple level of interesting characters trying to get along and find a way home.
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How many "Nielsen families" are there?
There are 5,000 households in the national People Meter sample, approximately 20,000 households in the local metered market samples, approximately 1,000 metered homes for our national and local Hispanic measurement, and nearly 1.6 million diaries are edited each year. -
I thought that wedding was pretty weak. Maybe I was just having an off night. Oh well, I'll watch it again to properly digest it.
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but the bottom line is the same. It's not worth watching.
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im sure no one here watches it...but you should
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apparently.
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Lost started with a small story, which over time became bigger, but at the end of the day its still about a small group of people.
FF started huge, everyone in the world affected, but they need to make it a smaller story about a group of people who we will care about. Very difficult undertaking to balance that for the small screen. And for me its beyond the likes of Braga and Goyer. -
and for dunderheads. gave it a few eps, gave up, won't even watch it for free on hulu.
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It beat out fucking Community. Second only to Survivor. It scored a little less than Office numbers. I'd say that's better than what Herc shows.
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Best ep of the season so far :) The hour long episodes are always top notch.
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Primetime shows used to get 30.0 ratings? Anything under an 8 used to mean instant cancellation...
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funny new show of the season. I hate that it's clumped into an hourlong slot with Parks and Rec (could that be why there was a huge dropoff between last week's and this week's Community ratings?) As has been said before, Amy Poeler isn't funny--she's just weird. If NBC suits are looking to trim the fat at the end of the season, and it comes down to a choice between Community and Parks, god let it be the latter.
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would be declining because the show has jumped up 100% in quality so far this season. And it was already pretty damned awesome to begin with. Anyway, regardless of whether you're a Supernatural fan or not, you have to agree that the Vampire Diaries having better ratings than it is one of the signs of the apocalypse. That show shouldn't even be in that list, I simply can't believe there is that disproportionate a distribution of Nielson boxes that so many 12 year old girls seem to be in possession of them.
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Oct 10, 2009 4:52:32 AM CDT
Supernatural puts a lot of other shows to shame
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
It has solid, likeable leads, character development, consistantly well-written episodes, and strong season-long storylines.Most shows around at the moment would be lucky to have even one of the above.
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What kind of world are we living in? Hell, it even had a Lincoln assassination.. and Lincoln was the ASSASSIN ! ! Kick-ass squirrely Ghandi!!! What more could you ask for?
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Do AICN still cling on to these outdated viewing figures? Check out Isohunt. Supernatural is the 6th most downloaded torrent, above Fringe, Stargate Universe. People are simply not bothering to sit down and watch TV in this age of shows on demand.....
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It is a great show, it really needs to go up in the ratings. Only consolation is that this is supposed to be the last season, so it will have an ending.
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It hasn't gotten any better. Too much uninteresting drama. An illogical manner of investigation. Last week had some strange dude who blew up a secret lab, but this week, they choose to go interrogate a Nazi. Huh?
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It IS a show I believe I want to watch for at least this season! Granted, after LOST I lost my virginity regarding big mistery story arcs in a tv show. Every other show can only try to compete but never win. BUT I'm willing to give FF my leap of faith, that I will be rewarded with very interesting hours of entertainment. So far I'm good with their storytelling and I will stay with FF as long as it stays I think. Don't like? Don't watch! I stay! And give MJ back to Peter Parker!!! The devil made a terrible move on my beloved characters!!!
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but it easily could be a very good show. I can't remember anything significant happening last week. And this week, the only major thing revealed was that this has happened before, on a smaller scale. Nice tease, but I waited 55 minutes to get to it, and had to pass the time with a drawn out Nazi A-plot, and some uninteresting B-plots. I am already getting tired of the "Wait a second! That lead was in my vision, so it must be important!" motivation. Investigations follow bad leads all the time, just because he was looking into something in the future, doesn't mean it was necessarily valid. I think it would have been a great twist if it turned out that all his leads were wild goose chases, and the only reason he ever followed them was because he saw himself following them. But alas, that has already been screwed up.
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My issue, was that I liked the first several episodes, but I wasn't in LOVE with them... And DVR or not, I need to LOVE a show to bother watching it. Then I began hearing that it kept getting better and better, but that was a few seasons ago when EVERYTHING was getting canceled, and I became extremely cynical about giving any series a shot. Maybe I'll give it another shot on Netflix.
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Oct 10, 2009 8:17:01 AM CDT
Donkey_Lasher: Let me explain this simply.
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
Advertisers care about the "outdated viewing figures". Therefore the executives at the channels care. Therefore, if you watch any of the shows above which are losing viewers, YOU should care. Therefore, AICN cares.Advertisers don't give a fuck about Isohunt. Therefore, the executives at the channels don't give a fuck about Isohunt. Therefore AICN doesn't give a fuck about Isohunt.
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Fiennes isn't doing it for me as a hero, and his relationship with his wife is as stilted and unbelievable as any I've seen on television.
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BOTH shows are great this year. Only difference is that Community is having a really strong first season whereas it took P&R until Season 2 to find its groove. Did any of you people slagging P&R actually watch it this week? The conceit of having everyone in the office dig up dirt on each other was incredibly funny. Anzari KILLS it on that show week after week, and now that Louis CK is on there (playing AGAINST type, no less) the show is a powerhouse. I really hope both shows survive. Because of NBC (and It's Always Sunny on FX) Thursday is far and away the funniest night of the week.
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That people only tuned into supernatural because of smallville. Is anybody really surprised the show is dead in the water now that it's lead in is moved to another night.
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that made The Office Season 2 so great. Sharp writing, good visual gags, an engaging romantic subplot(s) and more fully-realized characters with emerging personalities (Ron Swanson/Duke Silver OWNS your asses). Hate on Poehler all you want (nobody's in here defending Baby Mama) but don't tell me you didn't laugh when drunk Leslie stood up to do a Talking Head with Louie CK still sitting right behind her.
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Was waiting to hear how you tried to help out CW with their programing schedule, but they turned you down.
Think the real answer is Supernatural is getting heavily dvr'd and downloaded from torrents.
Not sure what it costs them to make it, but it is one of the most consistently well produced network show that is on at the moment.
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Is it under threat? My main beef with it is Joseph Fines and the shocking amount of exposition. But Joseph isn't a good lead, I still like the show enough to watch it though, its just frustrating to wait till the next episode, there's no pay off, need a little pay off.
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Some one needs to pull your geek card cause it meets all requirements of cool shit. This season (and last really) have ratched up the action and horror major league. I'm always shocked at the amount of gore they can get away with on the show,and anybody who can saw off a vampires head while throwing out a one liner like "eat it Twilight",is fucking right up there with Ash in my book of horror icons. Any so called horror movie being released this year would kill for writting like this series. And by the way,JettL,go fuck yourself man. This site doesn't need or want some talkback version of Spencer and Hedi or what ever reality villian your trying to be. We know your going to keep making comments to try and piss people off until your name is an adjective on here, I get it, but enough already. Nobody buys the act. Try a new one.
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I don't understand. Put it on Tuesday. Add at least a million viewers to your ratings. Makes zero sense. Fox is so fucking stupid. And yes, Flashforward will inevitably be canceled. Especially if it continues to bleed.
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Will be going the way of Dark Angel. Is Fox purposly trying to sabotage the show, and get it cancelled? Fringe should be on Wedensdays, not Thursdays.
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Are all quite impressive this year!
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Mostly because of really bad writing and directing. It has no suspense, no characters I care about, nothing that stimulates the mind or emotions and the "mysteries" about the individual Flashforwards are as boring as can be etc. It's just (yet again) really bad execution on an interesting idea. They have some good actors on the show but you'll never see them at their best because of the bad writing/directing. A shame.
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I caught eps 2 and 3 last night on hulu. Dull and silly. Did anyone else think the whole dolls dancing around with the obvious creepy music was ridiculous? And what was that bullshit with them just letting the Nazi out after he failed to live up to his end of the bargain? Made absolutely no sense. And Fiennes is really lousy - the pensive scowling and growl talking. I like Cho, but he is so stiff and humorless (bad writing and direction). I would like to see where they are going to take the arc, but not enough to watch it.
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Tough week for the show since it was moved to a different time slot; however, it didn't drop too much which is a good thing. The Office was great except for the ridiculously over the top wedding aisle scene. What were they thinking? It was just stupid.
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The new showrunners took over last season and it was great. However, last season was going so damn good and had great momentum and then we had a several episode lana arc with frutstrated me sooo much. This season its clear they're trying to really get the guy to be superman, but unfortunately the old showrunners screwed the show's future. The biggest problem was that clark didn't have glasses... it could have worked if you had lois meet a geekier clark (or even fiction-geek--geeky w/glasses, good looking w/o glasses). I can live with that. The sad part is that the character lois and the way durance plays lois is one of the things the show has done the best at... smallville's lois is a legit lois lane in every way--but, again because of the old showrunners, lois' character has gotten a little fucked up--since there's no way for lois NOT to see superman and recognize him as clark, so lois is apparantly falling in love with a guy she's never met, never heard his voice, never seen in person, never shared any personal experiences and has no clue what his personality is like. It really hurts the character of lois. Smallville has NAILED green arrow in every way... i'd really like to see a nightwing show, but green arrow could be great.
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...constant nod to Ken Tucker was amusing. Supposedly he had an "altercation" of some sorts with Corbin Bernson over a bad review he gave the show. Oh, and Biff guest starred! Biff needs to be in more stuff. Biff's awesome.
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Great cast, so much potential as the actors' chemistry continues to grow...give it time NBC!!
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repeats on Friday and is available online after it airs (most shows are). I'm not excusing anything but have they started taking that stuff into account when they're doing the ratings? Because what if 1/4 of the people who watch it are busy on Thursday and just go "oh I'll catch it Friday" or "I'll just watch it online"? I think it's a decent show and would at least like to see where it's going. I wouldn't want it to get canceled.
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But I'll give them a pass, they obviously felt like they had to do something big fir the episode...and that's what we got. Andnit must be great to have a character like Michael, anytime the writers need funny they can just lean on "Michael's" lack of creativity and have him ripoff...or parody/borrow/etc something funny that other people came up with.
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I like that they cast him, but the way they've used him has been completely unsatisfying to the point of being insulting. All of the Nimoy hype involves nothing more than one fairly brief scene that occurred at the end of last season. The rub is that they didn't really show most of the scene and have been revealing the it in pieces over multiple episodes. I don't mind watching characters solve deep mysteries gradually over time, but the type of unnecessarily throttled revelation is completely contrived. To give her "travel amnesia" just so they can milk a single scene for multiple episodes is ridiculous. If they don't want people to dropping the show, which seems to be what is happening, perhaps they should respect them enough not to cheaply manipulate them.
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seriously, i email you asking for you to finally say to the community why you seemingly hate supernatural, and no response whatsoever from you. I called you out. Respond. I'm really getting sick of this nonsensical shunning of this amazing genre show. Also dexter, you just started posting talkbacks for it this year i think. I believe you've lost touch with the community.
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Did Smallville really come 3rd place?! Fox must be bricking it :D
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...and will continue to do so until people wake up, these numbers mean nothing. Look at total viewers. (In Millions) Survivor 11, Flashforward 9.05, Bones 9.92, Community 5.11, Vampire Diaries 3.52. If you were an advertiser where would you put your money? Certainly not on Vampire diaries no matter what the overrated 18-49 demo number says, because just as many if not more 18-49 are watching CBS, NBC, and ABC. Why? Because the older people who fill out the ratings have 18-22 year old's at home who watch with them, that's why, and 18-49 year old's don't have any extra money. Besides, 18-49 year old's aren't home on Fridays and if they are, they are watching what their children or parents want to watch. Who watches commercials anymore anyway? I certainly don't. We DVR everything except sports. And I suspect a lot more viewers do the same thing but don't report it. Final nail. Total viewers-ABC 15 million. ABC 11, Fox 10. NBC 5, CW 2. Now, again, where would you put your advertising dollars? And if you say the CW, you would be fired.
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Oct 10, 2009 12:34:45 PM CDT
I think people kinda missed the point of the wedding intro dance
by burgundy82
It was supposed to make you smile a bit, sure, but the real point was how profoundly LAME of an idea it is to tarnish someone's wedding ceremony by copying a YouTube video whose whole appeal was its originality. Not only was it completely in character for Michael, it was also the single least creative thing that could transpire at a wedding -- which contrasted nicely with the intimacy of Jim and Pam's secret nuptials. As soon as that original video (which I loved) hit YouTube, I thought to myself, "Someone else -- someone unfunny and awful -- is going to insist on copying this. And it's going to be the most eyeroll-inducing thing ever." Looks like the Office writers were thinking the exact same thing, and they knew it had to be Michael.
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The scene would've been even better had it just been Michael and Dwight and Jim's douchebag brothers, with everyone else just staring back at them in silence.
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putting all those shows on one night. Move em around, use them as lead in for new shows. NBC is dead 5 nights a week at 10 pm with Leno, so ABC, CBS and Fox should jump all over that time slot all week long.
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Rip off piece of shit...
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Yeah, but also the dancing was a little sweet as well. I liked the idea that after everyone in the office had been so rude and obnoxious they organized a charming (though entirely unoriginal and ridiculous) way to express their happiness for the couple. Occasionally the show feels like the characters don't actually like one another. I had never seen the youtube video so I was more perplexed than anything for the first couple minutes - once I got the hang of what they were doing, I found it pretty winning; particularly when balanced against the shots of the boat ceremony.
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She is really hot and she was a writer for the Onion.
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Herc posted a response in a talkback that he's never watched Supernatural and at this point he probably never will.
Also, herc doesn't post the Dexter talkbacks this season, I believe it's capone.
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to having to compete with Fringe this year. I'm sure a considerable chunk of Supernatural's audience is also part of Fringe's and a decision on which to watch "live" has to be made.Flashforward's drop in ratings are, I believe, in part of its audience discovering it is being repeated on Friday and watching that broadcast instead. In case anyone wants to see the Youtube wedding video they copied on The Office: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0
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i guess i missed him say that. why the hell would he just completely disregard the show without giving it a chance is beyond me. Yet, he seems stuck on a Survivor kick, even though the first two or three seasons were the only interesting ones, and yes i've watched survivor.
I knew herc didn't post the dexter talkbacks, but this is his website.
Also, herc seems to be a huge whedon fan, which I am also, and he seems to love Nathan Fillion, but absolutely nothing on this damn site about Castle? What the hell? That show is ten shades of awesome because of Fillion's charm. -
about castle also. apparently Fillion will be dressing up like Capt. Mal from firefly for the halloween themed episode. Hopefully this comes.
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Supernatural(finishes this season), Office (should be finishing this season), Fringe (given its Thursday slot probably wont get another season), Dollhouse (will be cancelled soon)
Coming up mid-season, Lost (finishes this season), Chuck(unlikely to make another eason) and 24 (probably will fnish this season)
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it can meet the Dollhouse and Sarah Connor in circular file where it belongs. Fringe Is on its last leg, do they even run commercials for it anymore?Supernatural is the absolute BEST show on TV right now. Nothing better and if you don't watch it you obviously wear a dress.
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If this was 5 years ago, these shows would all be canceled. These shows cost a lot of money to produce, and if people are not watching the commercials during first run, no advertiser is going to want to put their ads on low rating shows. I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of these shows are canceled because of this. If you are downloading these shows, and wondering why they get canceled, get a clue. The commercials pay for the show.
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...he has tried to sample Supernatural several times, and just doesn't care for it, and at this point probably won't go back and check it out. Also Spike, Survivor's had waaay more than three interesting seasons.
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I've long since realised this fantastic show will never get the kind of ratings it deserves. As a watcher since mid-season one it remains the one show I'll constantly look forward to in the fall.
Shame that its last season will go out with just us fans watching, but those who haven't managed to get into it, it'll be their loss.
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I hope this is a keeper, and Fringe right now is still the best thing on tv.
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actually, I've never seen it. looks gay though. are those two fancy lads brothers or lovers...or both?
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Saw the "Jack" character... the "Locke" character (complete with "faith" message)... saw the "Hurley" character (complete with "Dude"). Yeah, FF was a book first, but FF (the show) has none of the depth or charm LOST has.
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What an absolute fake and a hack. Viva la Howard Stern!!!! http://sickpicks.blogspot.com/
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It's been running on four or five same ideas for the past 2 years. No one seems to be watching it? Why keep it on?
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Because that is what I was watching live and on DVR. The games have been great!
Oh, and I DVR Supernatural & FlashForward (and delete after viewing) and get Fringe from iTunes for further review.
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May not be the best show on television, but it's definitely the best show on Thursday night. The ratings don't me squat to me. If I cared about the schlock the braindead masses liked, I'd be lining up to see Fame right now.
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so he has tried to watch it at least? yet he prefers survivor over it or even dexter?
I'm just saying that's a huge dropoff in taste.
Huge.
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sorry, i keep forgetting to add things before i finish posting. survivor had more than 3 interesting seasons? i had completely not heard about survivor after about 2003. I was under the impression it was cancelled because i never saw any ads for it anywhere, and never heard anything about it anywhere either, until about last year on this site.
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You never saw ads for it during football games? During other shows? Survivor has been CBS' top rated series forever. Too busy wasting time with the CW, eh?
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Itr's a shame as I think Fringe is MUCH better this season, I am enjoying it a lot, and I think FF is very good and deserves to stick around a while.
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SNL Thursday was a ratings bomb. NBC should have known that it was a bad idea to run with it in an non-election year. SNL, the mothership, always gets a huge bump in election years and then drops off especially if they don't have a good President parody going on. Obama hasn't given them good enough material and Fed Armistan hasn't made him funny in any way (Dana Carvey always hit gold with his charicture of Bush Sr. even on the weakest sketches just because his impression was so good in a funny way).
Now that P&R has a stronger lead in, it will have better ratings going forward.
Onto other shows. Got FLashForward DVRed, but haven't watched past the first episode. I think Fringe shot themselves in the foot by not making this week's episode the first episode of the season. I think many fans were pissed off that they didn't address the alternative universe and William Bell right off the bat and then waited a month to reveal it. It could loose even more audience next week because it seems that they are going back to the monster of the week format again and putting William Bell/the war with the alternate universe back on the back burner. -
and 30 Rock when it was doing so well in it's Tuesday slot?
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With Thursdays being overcrowded with good TV is being able to watch Flash Forward on Friday with nothing else good on opposite hurting it's Thursday ratings?
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It's based on books written WAY before Sookie Stackhouse (True Blood) and the Twilight books. I hate the unnecessary direction Alan Ball's going with True Blood (he should have stuck with the books which are way superior)--which is why Vamp Diaries has more to sink your teeth into.
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yes, i'm serious that i didn't see any adds for it, and i watched football with my dad a lot. The CW sucks besides supernatural. I can't believe how bad it sucks besides that show. I've been wasting my time getting engaged, finishing college, finding a house, writing scripts, working, and other activities that nobod would probably like to hear. I have, however, seen plenty of ads for other, much better shows, like lost for instance, which i take from your screen name you at least like a little bit.
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Yes, it started a little clunky, not bad but clunky, and now it's kicking all kinds of major ass this year.SUPERNATURAL IS NOW SO GOOD THAT ALL OTHER TELEVISION SHOWS ARE IRRELEVANT!!!
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I Tivo THE OFFICE and that's it...I'd give your other shows a try, but after you killed MY NAME IS EARL without even a decent send-off, I'm not going to waste my time...why bother when just about any show is potentially on death watch?
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P&R made a big turn around from last season. It really isn't bad. It was pretty darn terrible last year but it is actually entertaining this year.
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They strung it out way too long.
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It's been five years are you still pissed off that it was given Angel's timeslot? I'm confused because so far this year TV wise best shows on would have to be. 1. Supernatural. 2. Medium 3. Fringe. Why do you hate Supernatural so much?
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Come on..the end of season 1 was freaking AWESOME..the whole Twin Towers just set the mood of the alternate reality perfectly...All of those wanting this big revelation already and want, for some reason, huge face-time with Nimoy are like geeks with their first piece of ass; slow down chief and take your time and don't blow your load in the first little bit...
I totally agree though that the Office vs. Fringe is a mistake...CatVutt said after House I believe..prob a good slot..the slot atm is gay.. -
Sorry had to throw that pun out there..and it does indeed blow donkeys...comparable to True Blood? LoL not even close..Comparable to Twilight? maybe since they are both gay versions of vampires..
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because he's an unprofessional bitter child, that's why. Coaxial should have been given to someone else long ago. Someone who doesn't think posting torrents of Amazon links warrants an article.
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...really should be tabled until around episode 6 or 7 which will coincide with November sweeps. The show was not designed to be a miniseries with a 4-8 hour run, so obviously the show is going to show all of its cards in the first 3 or four weeks. It has an interesting premise, has already had a few surprises, and some strong actors. And by November they will likely move it along at a faster clip. If they don't, then yeah, I'll be the first one to complain, a la "The Nine". Geez, what a pointless piece of crap that was, lol. -J.
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returning to Fringe didn't help it in the ratings. The ratings went down, instead of up.
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Oct 11, 2009 9:10:51 PM CDT
Fringe was marked when they ran the WTC episode
by flurryofchocolateglazedkrispykremedonuts
No way is a right wing network going to let even JJ get away with "desecrating" the "holy memory" of the twin towers. 9/11 is the conservative Ramadan, no wonder Rupert stuck Fringe into the Thursday death slot.
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.....jumped the shark last season with Doomsday.
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Best show on TV right now, period. One of the few I actually look forward to watching.
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unbelievable the way the show gets pushed aside due to people's preconceptions... damn that show is doing some amazing things lately.
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Has NOT been spot on. Ollie in the comics states that compound bows are for pussies, and he never had a drinking/addiction problem. While I love the fact the GA is on Smallville, they haven't done his character justice. However, that's the Smallville way.
As far as Lois, yeah, she's been great through the whole series. However, I disagree with the Clark/Lois/Supes thing. She's been talking to Supes via phone. Will probably find out he's the Blur avoiding the whole melodrama of the Clark vs Supes romantic interlude, which is fine by me. I'm curious as to where they'll go with it this season and next. -
It was kinda nice to see SUpernatural going back to its roots this week, while i love the whole god/lucifer/angels storyline, i do miss the nasty as fuck monsters we used to get each week. Hopefully might get to see a few more before the show comes to a triumphant end that will be ignored by this site as usual.
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...and how much mindless adulation it receives? Probably.
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It use to be quirky..now its just predictable
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Supernatural is one of the best shows I've ever experienced. The overall story arc has been great and the monster-of-the-week episodes are kickass (beheading Paris Hilton was fun to watch). It is exploring some heady shit this season. I am consistently amazed at what a great show it is and equally shocked at how it gets no love from AICN and other viewers. I will watch it and DVR other shows or watch online (Fringe, FlashForward). It could still continue after this season. The statement was that the current story line will wrap up after this season, but that the show could still continue. The preview from last Thursday was awesome. Some great episodes to come. Here's hoping for season six.
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If you're going to do genre, follow the number one rule (actually, drill it into your think skulls!): Mythology, the core of all genre, takes time to build. Give it that time and focus on action and mystery over TMI. 2nd rule: Stop this Thursday pile-on crap ASAP - or wait until we have quad DVR's. Nobody has any money to go out so, hey! We're home! And knock off the pipe when making the line-up grid and spread the goodies out. 3rd rule: Hire people who're into this shit to begin with.
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