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Judge Bender Studies Denzel Washington In The Hughes Brothers' THE BOOK OF ELI!
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The Hughes Brothers are undeniably talented filmmakers. MENACE II SOCIETY still stands as the best of the early 1990s 'hood movies, while DEAD PRESIDENTS flirts with greatness before losing its way about halfway through (though it's still worth watching for Chris Tucker's incredible performance). But FROM HELL was a gorgeously-designed botch, and, for whatever reason, this put the Hughes' career on hold for close to a decade.
Now they're back with THE BOOK OF ELI, which, judging from the trailer, appears to be a post-apocalyptic riff on any number of Japanese swordsman tales. The good news: it's surely going to be better than Albert Pyun's OMEGA DOOM. The bad news: if Judge Bender's assessment is spot-on, maybe not by much.
It's important to note that Bender viewed an unfinished version of the film. There is still plenty of time to tighten the film up - and perhaps sneak in some reshoots - before its January 15, 2010 release. I should also say that I elided a paragraph from this review because I don't want to spoil the film's big third-act twist. Bender thinks they should jettison this reveal completely, but it sounds like the entire screenplay is building to this moment.
Take it away, Judge...
The wife and I were able to catch a private screening of the Hughes Brothers "The Book of Eli" in Dallas a couple of weeks ago. I have been dying for the opportunity to write a review for AICN now for almost a decade but the opportunity had never presented itself to me....until this particular event.
We went to a private screening of the new Hughes Brothers directed "The Book of Eli". According to the lady who spoke in front of about a 350 or so theater attendee's, this was the first time EVER anyone had seen this version of the movie. She mentioned the "color" is not fully adjusted and special effects not complete and music is temporary. I am sad to say that while the movie appeared completely done (other than the music and some effects shotes) it didn't seem like anything would be able to save this heep.
"The Book of Eli" is apacolyptic in it's tone and allegorical in it's message. You get the idea from the trailer posted on the internet currently. What the trailer fails to indicate is what a mess this story really ends up being.
Bascially the end of the world as we know it has occured due to the ravages of a nuclear holocaust 30 years previous. The reasons for the holocaust were religious differences between the countries in control (that could be a reference to any number of potential nuclear war potentials). In many ways the story makes sense. I mean, religious turmoil has been around since the beginning of time and who knows when the button could be pushed by some rogue crazy fuck country. The problem with this particular story is : the dialogue, the acting AND the broad strokes the directors seem to want to take WITH the story. There are no real distinct details to make the story more believeable. Basically, Eli has the only bible left on the planet and with it comes the power to re-evolve the "masses" and put back civilzation on the correct path of redemption. This is the reason, too, that Gary Oldman's character wants the bible. His desire for control is more deviant and repressive. A strange detail to this movie is that it appears that Gary Oldman and Denzel are two of the only people still living that remember what the "book" or bible really is. Kind of hard to believe when you think about it.
First off let me say that I love Denzel. I also love Mila. I must say too that I have a bunch of respect for Gary Oldman. These are all "veterans" of the acting genre. When I was watching this movie the only thing I could think about was that this must be either a "joke" reel or they are going to have to go back to have massive re-shoots to cover up some of these scenes. Mila comes across as completely one dimensional as with no real purpose to the story.
Spoiler Free Synopsis of the movie: The planet is devastated and inhabitated by a bunch of Road Warrior wannabe's after some type of religion-fueled nuclear war 30 years previous. A man named Eli (Denzel) was given a "message" years previous to deliver a book (the bible) somehere to the WEST for the sake of of a religious "re-birth" and evolution to occur for society. The message "Eli" received was pretty vague and there are underlying challenges he faces to this journey. More cahllenges than actually meet the "eye", so to speak. It will spoil the plot to say anything else but let me tell you this... The only good thing about this movie is Denzel. There is also a MAJOR plot twist that occurs at the end of the movie to indicate to the audience the challenge and sacrifice the journey must have been for "Eli". All I could think when this "twist" occurs was "there is no fucking way that could actually be the case". The Hughes brothers must have thought about the cheapest trick in the book to put over on the audience and then EXPECT them to believe it. And there in lies another problem with the movie. It feels almost as if it is some low budget movie of the week. The pacing and delivery in the current version is also just way too slow.
The good:
Denzel is GREAT. None of his previous characters come close to what he delivers from a bad-ass perspective. Both gentle at times and lethal at others. I mean really LETHAL. The movie is at its best when the few (too few in my opinion) action sequences occur. Denzel is in a class by himself but the end result is he should've done something with the script/cast before accepting this role.
Jennifer Beals plays the she-servant to Gary Oldman's bad guy. She is also the mother of Mila's character. It is too bad that Jennifer is somewhat underused and really the only other positive igredient to the entire cast.
The good ends with that.
The bad:
Gary Oldman- in his typical "waiting to explode with over-acting" bad guy routine. He plays the only other character who realizes the value of the bible. How are he and Denzel the only two people on the planet who know the value of the bible? Just doesn't make sense.
Mila Kunis- whom I love- is completely out of place and serves NO purpose in this movie and her acting is about as cardboard as you can get in this movie- but I still love her.
The countless dispensable bad-guy goons- the only purpose of these guys is to show the efficiency of Denzel with a blade.
The cinematography- looked like a made for t.v. movie. The colorization was awful as well. They said it wasn't completely "colorized" but I can't see how ANY color could help this movie. The best looking part of this movie has been the trailer. Boy does the trailer mispresent this stinker.
The whole movie just seemed bland. The ending is what it is. There IS a message to why Eli (Denzel) is delivering the "book" and what it hopes to do for the world. There are really just too many questions at the end of the movie and really not enough to close all of the gaping holes of questions that are never answered.
Don't get me wrong. I am all for a great message that will help people realize the benefits of a belief system..blah blah blah...but the movie itself is unbelieveable and therein lies the problem. You just don't suspend belief enough to believe this could happen.
If you use this just call me Judge Bender
Thanks for the review, man. Here's hoping I completely disagree with you.
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Reader Talkback
by Nice Marmot | Oct 8th, 2009 12:42:34 PM | I agree Beaks by Unlabled | Oct 8th, 2009 12:42:48 PM | Also by Unlabled | Oct 8th, 2009 12:43:37 PM | Always skeptical... by kuldan | Oct 8th, 2009 12:45:09 PM | "MENACE II SOCIETY still
stands . . . by Nice Marmot | Oct 8th, 2009 12:45:10 PM | Well, Judge Bender that's like
your opinion... man! by YackBacker | Oct 8th, 2009 12:45:22 PM | Uh...I haven't seent the flick
yet... by jimmy_009 | Oct 8th, 2009 12:45:41 PM | Nice Marmot by kuldan | Oct 8th, 2009 12:45:55 PM | Actually, I used to be into
those hood movies. by Nice Marmot | Oct 8th, 2009 12:46:55 PM | Isn't it convenient that
Denzel's plays "Eli" a
biblical name? by YackBacker | Oct 8th, 2009 12:47:32 PM | That's a bummer by LastOfTheV8Interceptors | Oct 8th, 2009 12:50:34 PM | Glut of post apocalyptic
movies... by Charlie_Allnut | Oct 8th, 2009 12:51:59 PM | World of Warcraft Title and
Story announced by ominus | Oct 8th, 2009 12:54:06 PM | Hopefully its an EDITED Bible by D.Vader | Oct 8th, 2009 12:57:06 PM | Ominus, you know who they will
cast as the Lich King by D.Vader | Oct 8th, 2009 12:58:09 PM | What's the twist? by Pacino86845 | Oct 8th, 2009 12:59:56 PM | I was hoping the book was a
player guide for Fallout 3 by Judge_Dredd | Oct 8th, 2009 01:00:20 PM | Screw the bible and screw
religion! by ninpobugei | Oct 8th, 2009 01:00:54 PM | HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY FORGET
ABOUT... by Kwame | Oct 8th, 2009 01:02:16 PM | D.Vader - the bible already
has been edited...MANY times! by ninpobugei | Oct 8th, 2009 01:04:25 PM | This review isn't very
coherent...doesn't mean it's
wrong... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 01:05:04 PM | Love From Hell! by MattmanBegins | Oct 8th, 2009 01:05:19 PM | DRAAAAAIIIIIINGE by kolchak | Oct 8th, 2009 01:07:05 PM | I liked From Hell. by LastOfTheV8Interceptors | Oct 8th, 2009 01:08:57 PM | Bale is a very good cast but
he is not blond by ominus | Oct 8th, 2009 01:09:13 PM | THINGS I WOULD RE-INVENT
BEFORE RELIGION: by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 01:12:42 PM | Ninpobugei- I'm glad someone
picked up on the irony by D.Vader | Oct 8th, 2009 01:13:30 PM | Flickapoo, might I offer an
improvement? by D.Vader | Oct 8th, 2009 01:14:40 PM | This is all assuming they
already re-invented sex,
right?... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 01:14:53 PM | D.Vader... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 01:15:45 PM | Cinematography by tiredpm | Oct 8th, 2009 01:16:30 PM | Isn't this a vampire story? by NippleEffect | Oct 8th, 2009 01:21:24 PM | acting genre? by food_fight | Oct 8th, 2009 01:21:39 PM | THERE IS ONLY ONE BIBLE
LEFT??? by Mr. Nice Gaius | Oct 8th, 2009 01:22:36 PM | TiredPM by ninpobugei | Oct 8th, 2009 01:22:44 PM | From Hell by food_fight | Oct 8th, 2009 01:23:10 PM | If the premise of this story
is to restore the Bible by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 01:24:26 PM | Damn the sequel to The Road by Series7 | Oct 8th, 2009 01:24:37 PM | ...I was wondering what "the
acting genre" is too. by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 01:24:44 PM | food_fight, I read the graphic
novel first by MattmanBegins | Oct 8th, 2009 01:25:29 PM | MattmanBegins by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 01:29:36 PM | baded = based by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 01:30:09 PM | Mr. Nice Gaius by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 01:30:53 PM | Mila Kunis purpose in the
movie... by IAmLegolas | Oct 8th, 2009 01:31:03 PM | I think an "acting genre"
movie is any film not
starring... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 01:31:33 PM | My problem with Mila Kunis by YackBacker | Oct 8th, 2009 01:33:39 PM | FROM HELL by IAmLegolas | Oct 8th, 2009 01:35:45 PM | Written By The Former Editor
of PC Gamer by Autodidact | Oct 8th, 2009 01:36:43 PM | My Problem with Mila Kunis by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER | Oct 8th, 2009 01:40:56 PM | I Saw The Film Trailer For
"Eli", And... by Media Messiah | Oct 8th, 2009 01:44:45 PM | As has been stated by other
talkbackers by Porco Drunko | Oct 8th, 2009 01:55:22 PM | So there are nuclear launch
codes in the bible? by s0nicdeathmonkey | Oct 8th, 2009 01:56:05 PM | AsimovLives by Mr. Nice Gaius | Oct 8th, 2009 01:58:07 PM | So tell me The Book Of Eli by skimn | Oct 8th, 2009 02:00:01 PM | The world is destroyed because
of religion, which dies off by solanine | Oct 8th, 2009 02:00:04 PM | s0nicdeathmonkey by Porco Drunko | Oct 8th, 2009 02:01:56 PM | I know some fundamentalists
who would jump at... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 02:05:28 PM | "Gary Oldman waiting to
explode..." by D.Vader | Oct 8th, 2009 02:05:37 PM | No. I learned long ago to
avoid Harry's writing. by s0nicdeathmonkey | Oct 8th, 2009 02:08:45 PM | Meanace II Society 2: O'Dawg's
Revenge by Disney_Retcond_my_STD | Oct 8th, 2009 02:12:06 PM | OLDMAN'S OVER-ACTING WORKED IN
LEON... by shaneo632 | Oct 8th, 2009 02:12:08 PM | nah by the new transported man | Oct 8th, 2009 02:13:23 PM | Heh can't disagree with your
stance.... by Porco Drunko | Oct 8th, 2009 02:13:58 PM | I wanna know the ridiculous
twist. by solanine | Oct 8th, 2009 02:17:35 PM | ...anyone read A CANTICLE FOR
LEIBOWITZ? by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 02:24:31 PM | THE TWIST by D.Vader | Oct 8th, 2009 02:24:42 PM | Oldman's "overacting..." by HarryCalder | Oct 8th, 2009 02:25:23 PM | my Twist guess by Time Duncan | Oct 8th, 2009 02:30:49 PM | SPOILER SPOILER by ralphiecharlie | Oct 8th, 2009 02:33:28 PM | The RED camera was used to
shoot "District 9"— by blakindigo | Oct 8th, 2009 02:33:48 PM | IAmLegolas by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:35:27 PM | Mr. Nice Gaius by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:37:34 PM | HarryCalder by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:38:43 PM | FlickaPoo by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:40:11 PM | AsimovLives by HarryCalder | Oct 8th, 2009 02:41:49 PM | Porco Drunko by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:42:11 PM | along=alone by HarryCalder | Oct 8th, 2009 02:42:30 PM | I was at this screening by Stumpy_Bob | Oct 8th, 2009 02:44:08 PM | Guh, the ideal alone that the
Bible is key to civilization
is of by wintocha67 | Oct 8th, 2009 02:44:20 PM | HarryCalder by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:45:34 PM | FROM HELL by HermesTrismestigus | Oct 8th, 2009 02:47:13 PM | AsimovLives - really?! by HarryCalder | Oct 8th, 2009 02:49:07 PM | Oh i almost forgot by Stumpy_Bob | Oct 8th, 2009 02:49:16 PM | I agree with the people
complaining about the movie's
logic by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:49:53 PM | AsimovLives... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 02:50:34 PM | Religion kills the world and
the cure is MORE RELIGION! by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:51:13 PM | FlickaPoo by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:52:45 PM | The vitriol towards a belief
in God around here is
ridiculous! by Andy_Dufresne | Oct 8th, 2009 02:52:55 PM | HarryCalder by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:56:23 PM | Actually, it was not college,
it was high school by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:57:12 PM | TAINTLICK by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 02:58:09 PM | Asimov... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 02:58:30 PM | Andy_Dufresne by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:00:10 PM | The Fifth Element is brilliant by slone13 | Oct 8th, 2009 03:04:06 PM | FlickaPoo by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:04:18 PM | FlickaPoo by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:05:51 PM | There's nothing wrong with
using religion to "save the
world" by D.Vader | Oct 8th, 2009 03:06:56 PM | This reminds me i should get
back to read SF classics by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:07:09 PM | A world that needs religion to
be saved... by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:08:00 PM | AsimovLives... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:11:12 PM | Asimov lives up his arsehole by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 03:14:10 PM | Miguel De Barioz... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:16:54 PM | I agree Vader. Religion can be
a powerful force for good by toadkillerdog | Oct 8th, 2009 03:16:56 PM | ...of course the fact that
he's not with the church
anymore... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:17:55 PM | Even though i'd love to join
you all and... by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 03:19:08 PM | Bless you Toadkillingdog by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 03:19:52 PM | ...I don't think people are
anti-christianity
necessarily... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:20:30 PM | ...fruit and cheese should
definitely cover it... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:22:08 PM | Back to the Movie.... by Cshores | Oct 8th, 2009 03:24:22 PM | Bend your ass to Jesus!!! by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:25:28 PM | God = Santa Claus for adults by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:25:49 PM | I don't think... by fivezero | Oct 8th, 2009 03:25:54 PM | Santa as played by Billy Bob
Thornton. by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:28:01 PM | Miguel De Barioz by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:28:45 PM | A good padre do not make
religion true by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:29:36 PM | What details would you like to
know? by Cshores | Oct 8th, 2009 03:29:39 PM | Asimov is a fool by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 03:30:30 PM | fivezero by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:30:53 PM | Miguel De Barioz by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:32:13 PM | Bible = bronze age myths stuck
in modern times by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:32:51 PM | ??? Arse-imov by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 03:34:51 PM | He's not saying it's based on
Myth... by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 03:37:47 PM | ...in all fairness, the
spcifically godless isms of
the 20th... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:37:54 PM | toadkillerdog by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:38:35 PM | FlickaPoo by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:41:01 PM | Asimov by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 03:41:44 PM | Judge Bender by Ace of Wands | Oct 8th, 2009 03:42:52 PM | Miguel De Barioz by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:43:33 PM | Miguel De Barioz by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:44:56 PM | Man...people get all pissed by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 03:45:06 PM | Christianism = ancient Egypt
religion by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:46:41 PM | Dr.DirtyD by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:47:29 PM | IS DENZEL A ROBOT? by BringingSexyBack | Oct 8th, 2009 03:47:53 PM | ...I think we're saying the
same thing. Call it
whatever... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:48:09 PM | Asimov by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 03:52:19 PM | The twist.... by The Dum Guy | Oct 8th, 2009 03:52:31 PM | Miguel De Barioz by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:56:09 PM | The twist of the movie is that by AsimovLives | Oct 8th, 2009 03:57:12 PM | yea, but with santa.. by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 03:57:26 PM | De Barioz...if you're the same
person who used to... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 03:57:31 PM | Asimov by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 03:57:31 PM | HARD TO IMAGINE DENZEL BEING
MORE BADASS by BringingSexyBack | Oct 8th, 2009 04:00:33 PM | ...JESUS CHRIST!..AIN'T GOT
NUTHIN...ON ME!!!! by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 04:01:24 PM | Instead of a Bible... by The Dum Guy | Oct 8th, 2009 04:04:04 PM | NOT TONIGHT I HAVE A TONGUE
ACHE by BringingSexyBack | Oct 8th, 2009 04:04:41 PM | Taintlick by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 04:05:57 PM | TAINT, shouldn't that be
"licking" you more and more by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 04:06:29 PM | ..."? by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 04:06:55 PM | Religion, Politics, and
Michael Jackson... by HarryCalder | Oct 8th, 2009 04:07:20 PM | THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND HIS
NAME IS THE WORDS by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION | Oct 8th, 2009 04:08:27 PM | From Hell is great as a stand
alone movie by _Palmer_Eldritch | Oct 8th, 2009 04:09:02 PM | From Hell by Miguel De Barioz | Oct 8th, 2009 04:11:21 PM | by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 04:12:31 PM | ...dear daughter...if you hit
the "enter" key again... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 04:15:05 PM | Palm... by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 04:21:21 PM | Most of the world is wrong. by slone13 | Oct 8th, 2009 04:53:29 PM | Hmmm by Magnum Opus | Oct 8th, 2009 04:54:03 PM | Without arguing its legitimacy by solanine | Oct 8th, 2009 04:55:07 PM | those who can't spell by frank cotton | Oct 8th, 2009 04:57:23 PM | by Cobra--Kai | Oct 8th, 2009 05:04:19 PM | Denzel is trying to save the
bible? by Chakraborty | Oct 8th, 2009 05:07:00 PM | by Cobra--Kai | Oct 8th, 2009 05:12:11 PM | only Keanu can save the world by Meadowe | Oct 8th, 2009 05:12:15 PM | In the end... by Chakraborty | Oct 8th, 2009 05:18:11 PM | the twist is it's an edited
bible by Meadowe | Oct 8th, 2009 05:23:21 PM | Spelling on AICN threads? by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 05:44:42 PM | The twist is that... by Chakraborty | Oct 8th, 2009 05:45:28 PM | This is what I want to
happen... by FanFuguTastik | Oct 8th, 2009 05:54:10 PM | ^^^then a lot of people will
be darksiders by Meadowe | Oct 8th, 2009 05:59:45 PM | TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION,
welcome home by YackBacker | Oct 8th, 2009 06:02:23 PM | Wait a minute... by Chakraborty | Oct 8th, 2009 06:05:33 PM | Someone just tell the twist
already! by ninpobugei | Oct 8th, 2009 06:19:43 PM | AintItCool is turning into a
site for pussies! by ninpobugei | Oct 8th, 2009 06:22:33 PM | Bunch of fuckstains..... by Cshores | Oct 8th, 2009 06:22:56 PM | The book in the movie... by Chakraborty | Oct 8th, 2009 06:28:21 PM | So he's blind??? by DeCypher44 | Oct 8th, 2009 06:28:42 PM | Oh, Cshores/Bender... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 06:37:38 PM | Miguel De Barioz by poopsies | Oct 8th, 2009 06:38:25 PM | Guys, Guys, Guys, I Just Had A
Thought!!! by TheMovieLover | Oct 8th, 2009 06:40:51 PM | Fanfagu by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 06:58:13 PM | Sorry i spelled your name
wrong Fugu by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 06:59:40 PM | TheMovieLover by FanFuguTastik | Oct 8th, 2009 06:59:54 PM | TheMovieLover... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 07:03:24 PM | Dr.DirtyD by FanFuguTastik | Oct 8th, 2009 07:03:54 PM | FlickaPoo by FanFuguTastik | Oct 8th, 2009 07:04:56 PM | 1 bible? by mascan42 | Oct 8th, 2009 07:29:15 PM | "undeniably talented
filmmakers" by The_Ad_Wizard_Who_Came_Up_With
_This_One | Oct 8th, 2009 07:32:58 PM | Groaned when I found out the
book was the Bible... by BurnHollywood | Oct 8th, 2009 07:38:01 PM | Bender is a genius... by Cshores | Oct 8th, 2009 07:41:09 PM | Hollywood still owes me a
Fallout movie. by Kontarsky | Oct 8th, 2009 07:42:50 PM | FlickaPoo by neoroosta | Oct 8th, 2009 07:58:15 PM | Also... by neoroosta | Oct 8th, 2009 08:03:26 PM | Dan Simmons, LeGuin, Delaney,
Wolfe, Gibson, Stephenson by blakindigo | Oct 8th, 2009 08:11:06 PM | OH GOD NOT ANOTHER RELIGIOUS
MOVIE by BringingSexyBack | Oct 8th, 2009 08:15:40 PM | Oops, I forgot Octavia Butler by blakindigo | Oct 8th, 2009 08:16:03 PM | I'll just shoot myself in the
face anyway by Dr.DirtyD | Oct 8th, 2009 08:23:29 PM | Asi by toadkillerdog | Oct 8th, 2009 09:12:35 PM | toad you forgot that
asstomouthlife is a goat
fucker by Xiphos_2 | Oct 8th, 2009 09:23:36 PM | Will he repeat "My man" about
40 times in the movie? by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 8th, 2009 09:26:54 PM | . by Subtlety | Oct 8th, 2009 09:32:57 PM | I love "the acting genre" what
about you guys?? by manifestchaos | Oct 8th, 2009 09:43:47 PM | CSHORES - A MACHETE IS A
MEXICAN SWORD by BringingSexyBack | Oct 8th, 2009 10:13:50 PM | RELIGION HAS BEEN TOO
EXTERNALIZED by BringingSexyBack | Oct 8th, 2009 10:19:09 PM | Re-read the review (SPOILERS) by YackBacker | Oct 8th, 2009 10:32:06 PM | neoroosta, blakindigo... by FlickaPoo | Oct 8th, 2009 10:35:20 PM | Religious movies are fine if
the story is exciting by NoHubris | Oct 8th, 2009 10:35:21 PM | It's hard to make these types
of movies look pretty by Spazatronik2000 | Oct 8th, 2009 10:42:35 PM | Miguel De Barioz is a funny
troll by zargotron | Oct 8th, 2009 10:54:53 PM | Asimov by MattmanReturns | Oct 8th, 2009 11:09:46 PM | Wouldn't you be safer to
believe in God, Heaven, Hell &
The Bibl by TheMovieLover | Oct 9th, 2009 12:37:03 AM | TheMovieLover by poopsies | Oct 9th, 2009 02:18:07 AM | Miguel De Barioz's spanish is
as good as my chinese by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:22:13 AM | The fucking Bible as the
solution? Again? by Motoko Kusanagi | Oct 9th, 2009 02:22:35 AM | NoHubris is right by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:28:05 AM | TheMovieLover by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:34:27 AM | MattmanReturns by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:37:55 AM | BringingSexyBack by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:39:26 AM | Xiphos 2 Dumb Harder: the
sequel by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:40:14 AM | toadkillerdog by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:42:52 AM | Religion: a colectionof bronze
age myths and rules of conduct by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:43:31 AM | Religion blocks the progress
of humanism by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 02:44:46 AM | Humanism is neutered pantheism by Turingtestee | Oct 9th, 2009 02:48:06 AM | In that it by Turingtestee | Oct 9th, 2009 02:54:44 AM | The big twist? by Scratchmonkey | Oct 9th, 2009 04:55:41 AM | Some rogue fucking country? by can-D | Oct 9th, 2009 05:01:49 AM | It's its it's its it's its
it's its... by Neil_Neil_Neil | Oct 9th, 2009 05:40:52 AM | No one has a Bible? by Gozu | Oct 9th, 2009 05:54:45 AM | A MACHETE IS A HILTLESS
MEXICAN SWORD by BringingSexyBack | Oct 9th, 2009 06:16:43 AM | TURING - HUMANISM IS REVERSE
RETARDATION by BringingSexyBack | Oct 9th, 2009 06:17:51 AM | ASIMOV by BringingSexyBack | Oct 9th, 2009 06:19:43 AM | The twist is that... by Chakraborty | Oct 9th, 2009 07:09:43 AM | Nothing like JUST A PILGRIM,
then... by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 07:31:05 AM | Religion doesn't cause people
to commit evil... by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 07:42:15 AM | come on goatfucker you can do
better by Xiphos_2 | Oct 9th, 2009 07:42:33 AM | Gozu by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 07:43:35 AM | AsimovLives - the problem is
absolutism by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 08:11:43 AM | ...I'm still laughing over the
"bringing cheese and fruit... by FlickaPoo | Oct 9th, 2009 08:17:25 AM | The reason asshole lives is
anti-religion by Lost Jarv | Oct 9th, 2009 08:27:46 AM | to be fair though, by Lost Jarv | Oct 9th, 2009 08:29:20 AM | SHARE TIP FOR TALKBACKERS by Lost Jarv | Oct 9th, 2009 08:31:57 AM | Sounds like my expectations
from the trailer were right by Series7 | Oct 9th, 2009 08:38:40 AM | Did you guys see the new South
Park? by Series7 | Oct 9th, 2009 08:42:45 AM | Oppsy poopsy by Series7 | Oct 9th, 2009 08:43:21 AM | AsimovLives, you make some
good points— by blakindigo | Oct 9th, 2009 08:47:04 AM | ninpobugei... by tiredpm | Oct 9th, 2009 08:48:56 AM | Lost Jarv, I don't know what
Portuguese women YOU'VE seen by blakindigo | Oct 9th, 2009 08:55:12 AM | tiredpm, I'm curious about
Post-Production issues by blakindigo | Oct 9th, 2009 08:58:06 AM | Oh the irony by CartoonFanboy | Oct 9th, 2009 09:37:35 AM | blakindigo by tiredpm | Oct 9th, 2009 09:49:39 AM | AFTER NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST, GIVE
BUDDHISM A SHOT by BringingSexyBack | Oct 9th, 2009 10:41:05 AM | The twist is obvious... by mojorising74 | Oct 9th, 2009 11:41:45 AM | Thats one terribly written
review... by m_reporter | Oct 9th, 2009 11:42:03 AM | Spud by toadkillerdog | Oct 9th, 2009 12:02:45 PM | Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 12:07:48 PM | Turingtestee, do you even know
what Humanism is? by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 12:09:04 PM | TiredPM -- many thanks!
AsimovLives -- I love you,
man! by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 12:10:36 PM | Don't kiss his ass by Lost Jarv | Oct 9th, 2009 12:11:15 PM | I'm not criticisnig him for
being narrow minded by Lost Jarv | Oct 9th, 2009 12:12:33 PM | spud mcspud by AsimovLives | Oct 9th, 2009 12:20:00 PM | by Cobra--Kai | Oct 9th, 2009 12:44:31 PM | by Cobra--Kai | Oct 9th, 2009 12:46:47 PM | Asimov by MattmanReturns | Oct 9th, 2009 12:53:31 PM | "Religion inspires more people
to do GOOD, than it does to do
ev by MattmanReturns | Oct 9th, 2009 12:56:11 PM | Yup, that's mine by Lost Jarv | Oct 9th, 2009 01:01:23 PM | Asimov, you pontificating cunt by Lost Jarv | Oct 9th, 2009 01:02:56 PM | Asi, that is specious
argument by toadkillerdog | Oct 9th, 2009 01:05:12 PM | Religion is wrong, regardless
of the reasoning by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 01:22:39 PM | Further... by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 01:29:05 PM | SPOILERS!!!! For Those Who
Have Seen IT!!! by DukeTogo84 | Oct 9th, 2009 01:36:13 PM | mojorising74 by Meadowe | Oct 9th, 2009 01:36:20 PM | ninpobugei by toadkillerdog | Oct 9th, 2009 01:49:49 PM | The twist is that... by Chakraborty | Oct 9th, 2009 01:55:16 PM | ninpobugei by just pillow talk | Oct 9th, 2009 02:06:35 PM | Albert Pyun's Omega Doom?!? by Stalkeye | Oct 9th, 2009 02:17:35 PM | Was I prolly the only one who
appreicated .. by Stalkeye | Oct 9th, 2009 02:22:32 PM | Atheists have the highest
suicide rate by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 9th, 2009 02:34:36 PM | Yeah, but TSC most of them are
Raiders fans! by toadkillerdog | Oct 9th, 2009 02:37:47 PM | Fallout by ravenink | Oct 9th, 2009 03:20:22 PM | "Veterans of the acting genre" by savagedave | Oct 9th, 2009 03:45:23 PM | This guy doesn't sound very
smart or savvy by Wee Willie | Oct 9th, 2009 03:52:51 PM | Someone just give the twist
already! by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 04:06:06 PM | ToadKillerDog -- by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 04:11:37 PM | Contacting Members? by DukeTogo84 | Oct 9th, 2009 04:20:56 PM | I know the twist ending by Spazatronik2000 | Oct 9th, 2009 05:43:57 PM | ninpobugei by toadkillerdog | Oct 9th, 2009 05:54:50 PM | ninpobugei - Religion does
nothing positive?? by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 06:12:17 PM | My personal beliefs, BTW by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 06:17:44 PM | And "primary purpose is to
convert others to its belief
system". by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 06:22:40 PM | Faith is fine...if weakness is
a virtue by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 06:32:06 PM | Spud by toadkillerdog | Oct 9th, 2009 06:42:10 PM | you people that hate religion
so much by Meadowe | Oct 9th, 2009 06:52:09 PM | How is belief a weakness? by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 07:03:17 PM | But as for the separation of
church and state... by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 07:05:08 PM | And as for religion doing more
harm than good... by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 07:08:22 PM | Toadkiller dog by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 07:14:35 PM | Meadowe - Good point well made by spud mcspud | Oct 9th, 2009 07:16:08 PM | AIDS in Africa = Catholics by zargotron | Oct 9th, 2009 07:25:47 PM | Absolutely Spud by toadkillerdog | Oct 9th, 2009 07:30:55 PM | About Pascal's Wager by Subtlety | Oct 9th, 2009 07:40:55 PM | I LIKE RELIGIONS THAT DON'T
KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR by BringingSexyBack | Oct 9th, 2009 08:02:24 PM | SpudMcSpud -- by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 10:08:52 PM | And more to the point... by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 10:09:14 PM | And more to the point... by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 10:11:09 PM | Subtlety -- by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 10:13:25 PM | ToadKillerDog -- by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 10:22:17 PM | SpudMcSpud -- Just FYI -- by ninpobugei | Oct 9th, 2009 10:42:40 PM | WHY DOES THIS GIVE OFF A
'WATERWORLD' VIBE? by uberman | Oct 9th, 2009 11:05:20 PM | Pascal's Wager by Turingtestee | Oct 9th, 2009 11:29:36 PM | So to save humanity... by Chakraborty | Oct 10th, 2009 12:11:46 AM | From hell by Gluecifer | Oct 10th, 2009 04:06:45 AM | ninpobugei by spud mcspud | Oct 10th, 2009 05:34:22 AM | As for THE GOD WHO WASN'T
THERE... by spud mcspud | Oct 10th, 2009 05:37:12 AM | ninpobugei - the LOVE thing by spud mcspud | Oct 10th, 2009 05:39:44 AM | spud mcspud by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 08:15:55 AM | spud mcspud by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 08:17:14 AM | Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 08:18:17 AM | Belief, aka, faith in
something that cannot be
proved is a weakn by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 08:19:56 AM | judge by astrologic25 | Oct 10th, 2009 11:42:43 AM | ss by astrologic25 | Oct 10th, 2009 11:43:08 AM | sdd by astrologic25 | Oct 10th, 2009 11:43:17 AM | 5 by astrologic25 | Oct 10th, 2009 11:43:29 AM | ss by astrologic25 | Oct 10th, 2009 11:43:43 AM | sssd by astrologic25 | Oct 10th, 2009 11:44:05 AM | h by astrologic25 | Oct 10th, 2009 11:44:24 AM | AsimovLives by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Ta
stes | Oct 10th, 2009 12:10:17 PM | There's a lot of Jesus hate
around here. by puppiesandicecream | Oct 10th, 2009 12:52:07 PM | Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Ta
st es by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 01:04:04 PM | puppiesandicecream by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 01:04:35 PM | Some people will one day have
to realise the difference by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 01:05:55 PM | If you reduce yourself only to
your religion by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 01:06:56 PM | The world is too awesome to
have religion ruin it by AsimovLives | Oct 10th, 2009 01:07:29 PM | Why Christianity spread as
fast as it did... by ninpobugei | Oct 10th, 2009 02:06:26 PM | Religion is for the weak
minded by ninpobugei | Oct 10th, 2009 02:15:15 PM | Asimov Lives by puppiesandicecream | Oct 10th, 2009 02:37:34 PM | Asimov Lives = Hypocrite by puppiesandicecream | Oct 10th, 2009 02:44:00 PM | PuppiesandIceCream -- by ninpobugei | Oct 10th, 2009 02:53:46 PM | ninpobugei - How do you KNOW
all this for a fact? by spud mcspud | Oct 10th, 2009 06:04:51 PM | And as for... by spud mcspud | Oct 10th, 2009 06:18:04 PM | AsimovLives - Go back to my
earlier posts... by spud mcspud | Oct 10th, 2009 06:21:12 PM | Back on topic... by spud mcspud | Oct 10th, 2009 06:24:10 PM | SpudMcSpud -- at least you
have half a brain... by ninpobugei | Oct 10th, 2009 08:06:27 PM | I'm way late to this
discussion... by XPatriot | Oct 10th, 2009 08:16:33 PM | One more thing! by XPatriot | Oct 10th, 2009 08:41:03 PM | RELIGION+GOVT=THEOCRACY=MURDER by uberman | Oct 10th, 2009 08:46:42 PM | CONTINUED... by uberman | Oct 10th, 2009 08:51:53 PM | Spud, you give ninny too much
credit by toadkillerdog | Oct 10th, 2009 09:33:12 PM | Seriously...??? by Cshores | Oct 10th, 2009 10:50:33 PM | You know what makes a kickass
double-feature? by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 11th, 2009 01:00:11 AM | FROM HELL and then SERPENT AND
THE RAINBOW by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 11th, 2009 01:00:39 AM | If David Blaine existed back
then... by Chakraborty | Oct 11th, 2009 04:51:17 AM | Chakraborty by Dirk_The_Amoeba | Oct 11th, 2009 10:00:21 AM | ninpobugei by Dirk_The_Amoeba | Oct 11th, 2009 10:05:59 AM | Ninpo - Agreeing to disagree by spud mcspud | Oct 11th, 2009 10:43:39 AM | Dirk_The_Amoeba by spud mcspud | Oct 11th, 2009 10:51:32 AM | Ninpobugei - My last word on
all this by spud mcspud | Oct 11th, 2009 10:56:55 AM | Dirk_The_Amoeba by spud mcspud | Oct 11th, 2009 11:02:50 AM | puppiesandicecream by AsimovLives | Oct 11th, 2009 01:30:00 PM | spud mcspud by AsimovLives | Oct 11th, 2009 01:31:18 PM | XPatriot by AsimovLives | Oct 11th, 2009 01:33:42 PM | Christianity is not the first
intolerance relgion ever by AsimovLives | Oct 11th, 2009 01:45:03 PM | My favorite bullshit from the
beleivers by AsimovLives | Oct 11th, 2009 01:46:40 PM | Spud son of Spud by Dirk_The_Amoeba | Oct 11th, 2009 01:53:36 PM | Dirk_The_Amoeba by spud mcspud | Oct 11th, 2009 03:49:09 PM | AsimovLives - re my reply
above by spud mcspud | Oct 11th, 2009 03:55:09 PM | SpudMcSpud -- you are so
completely and utterly wrong! by ninpobugei | Oct 11th, 2009 04:39:17 PM | P.S. by ninpobugei | Oct 11th, 2009 04:40:12 PM | Religion isn't the enemy... by BurnHollywood | Oct 11th, 2009 06:01:38 PM | ninpobugei by BurnHollywood | Oct 11th, 2009 06:04:28 PM | agreed burnhollywood by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 11th, 2009 07:13:48 PM | BurnHollywood - thanks! by ninpobugei | Oct 11th, 2009 08:25:51 PM | BurnHollywood -- two quotes
for you by ninpobugei | Oct 11th, 2009 11:33:40 PM | AsimovLives you h ypocrite
cunt by Lost Jarv | Oct 12th, 2009 04:15:50 AM | ninpobugei by spud mcspud | Oct 12th, 2009 04:30:48 AM | BurnHollywood by spud mcspud | Oct 12th, 2009 04:32:26 AM | Hey Jarv by spud mcspud | Oct 12th, 2009 04:35:43 AM | He was probably an alter boy by Lost Jarv | Oct 12th, 2009 06:22:58 AM | SpudMcSpud -- by ninpobugei | Oct 12th, 2009 10:39:17 AM | LostJarv -- I WAS an alter boy
(lol) by ninpobugei | Oct 12th, 2009 10:54:29 AM | Atheist fundamentalists???? by ninpobugei | Oct 12th, 2009 11:17:09 AM | LostJarv -- you should read
more history by ninpobugei | Oct 12th, 2009 11:32:07 AM | ninpobugei by spud mcspud | Oct 13th, 2009 04:26:48 AM | ninpobugei - What about
OOBEs?? by spud mcspud | Oct 13th, 2009 04:30:47 AM |
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