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Hercules Says STARGATE: SGU Is No Better (Or Worse) Than Syfy’s Other Stargate TV Shows!!

I am – Hercules!!


Staring at "Stargate SGU," one senses the folks at Syfy approached the guys who made “Stargate Atlantis” with this pitch: “‘Battlestar Galactica’ is easily the least crappy thing on the channel, but Ron Moore is one pricey writer-producer. You think you could maybe make something like that ‘Galactica’ show? The critics sure do seem to like it a lot better than your Stargate series!”

And so, I imagine, the “Stargate” guys came up with “SGU,” which (in its pilot at least) has “BSG”-like lighting and “BSG”-like music and "BSG"-like outer-space CGI camerawork and doesn’t seem to boast any actors with appliances slapped on their foreheads pretending to be extraterrestrials. Plus they got to hire Lou Diamond Phillips, a three-named actor who worked with Edward James Olmos on “Stand and Deliver.”

The series follows a group of military, political and science types who find themselves forced to escape what looks like a Cylon sneak attack by jumping through a special stargate – a stargate that connects only to an ancient starship in another galaxy far far away. The Cylon-like attack wrecks the special stargate and everybody’s trapped on the highly dilapidated and impossibly old space vessel.

Just as it took a little time to figure out that secretary of education Laura Roslin was now president of the BSG colonies, it takes some bickering to figure out who reports to whom when there’s military men and a senator and a high-ranking bureaucrat all tumbling though the one-way wormhole. There’s also a longhaired British superscientist played by Robert Carlyle who’s nowhere near as interesting or fun as Gaius Baltar. None of this, in fact, is terrifically compelling.

While there’s promise in the premise, the “Stargate” writers don’t demonstrate any more faculty for crafting thought-provoking drama or complex characters than they did on their old “Stargate” shows. There’s a lot of schlocky shouting for the politicians and the soldiers and a lot of unfunny shtick for the chubby civilian genius who gets trapped with the more experienced gate-jumpers. Take away the Galactican pretensions and it all seems no better or worse than the “Stargate” shows Syfy cancelled to make room for this one.

USA Today says:

… may not start fresh, but it does start over. … The cast (including Ming-Na, Louis Ferreira and Brian J. Smith) is good and the concept is a proven winner. And given how long these Stargates tend to stay open, the show certainly has time to improve. …

The New York Times says:

… People come hurtling toward us through a stargate in quick succession, crashing on top of one another in a bloody scrum. We don’t know where they’ve been or where they’re arriving. The answers follow in a series of flashbacks that sap most of the momentum of that nifty opening. … All this stress affords abundant opportunities for the overacting that characterizes “Universe,” as it does most large-cast cable dramas. …

The Chicago Tribune says:

… I've now seen five hours of the show and still don't feel all that invested in the the fate of 1st Lt. Matthew Scott (Brian J. Smith). Theoretically, I should -- he's one of the show's lead characters. Two characters do stand out … but the rest of "Universe" feels like an awkward mishmash of genres and tones. Though I had been cautiously looking forward to another iteration of the "Stargate" franchise, at this point I'm not sure its creators are taking Scott and his fellow survivors anywhere interesting.

The Washington Post says:

… Two things strike me, beyond "Stargate Universe's" stiffened pace: the predictability of the action and the characters, and the apparent tolerance for borrowing that the sci-fi genre treats as a matter of course. Plagiarism is the notable rhetoric, down to how things look in space and what people out there ever say to one another. What, exactly, gives "Stargate Universe" the right to beam its heroes from ship to surface the way "Star Trek" does? Why, except for budget and/or lack of imagination, do the interiors of the enormous starcruiser here bring to mind the dank hallways of "Alien" and the neo-brutalism of George Lucas's "Star Wars," with LED-bulb gizmo decor from "Star Trek" and "Battlestar Galactica"? …

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:

… begins with both promise and some hokey crutches. And then in next week's episode, the show gets lost in the desert -- literally.…

The Boston Globe says:

… quite a bit of this series feels like “Lost’’ in space, and it is - early “Lost,’’ before things got all Others-y and time-travel-bogged, when it was largely about unlocking characters’ mysteries and playing with grand themes. “Stargate Universe’’ isn’t quite so ambitious, but it’s intriguing in its way, down to the ship, bathed in blue light, that emerges as a character in its own right. The ship is more interesting thus far, alas, than any of the female characters, but perhaps that will change over time. As “Battlestar Galactica’’ proved not long ago, deep mythology is much more fun if it surrounds a lot of complicated people. …

The Hollywood Reporter says:

… The series is competently produced and has all the cinematic bells and whistles you would expect from a member of the "Stargate" family. But if it is to be more than that -- if it is to establish itself as an intelligent drama that, for example, explores the military-civilian dynamic -- it has light years to go. … True, "Stargate" fans likely will climb aboard this spaceship. But if this series is ever to really take off and become stellar, it will need more surprising stories and more intellectually challenging drama.

Variety says:

… a plodding two-hour opener that does little but explain the circumstances of the series, none of which are that complicated. The opener also introduces the cast, none of whom are that complicated, either. …



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Im waiting for the one and only..
by FrenchBastard03
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:54:32 AM
BSG RIPPED OFF STAR TREK CUZ IT HAS RANKS
by HaterofCrap
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:59:03 AM
Just go back to SG-1
by vadakinX
Oct 2nd, 2009
02:16:18 AM
Not sure
by damned-dirty-ape
Oct 2nd, 2009
02:17:14 AM
Cue nutcase Dioxholster in 3...2...1...
by Xiphos_2
Oct 2nd, 2009
02:17:24 AM
But I don't want deep, dark, complicated Stargate
by David Cloverfield
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:19:36 AM
Everybody Wants Some is an underrated Van Halen song.
by JuanSanchez
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:24:05 AM
Eat shit dioxholster...
by Hairy Nutsack
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:44:12 AM
SG-1 4-EVER
by SnapT
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:46:50 AM
BSG is still my favorite show ever.
by Daredrummer
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:52:25 AM
Dioxholster is probably too busy to read this
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGH TS
Oct 2nd, 2009
05:53:59 AM
Stargate: Voyager
by RenoNevada2000
Oct 2nd, 2009
06:16:40 AM
Francis Begbie in space......
by masteryoda007
Oct 2nd, 2009
06:42:51 AM
I wish they'd go back to the SG-1 season 1 tone
by br1947
Oct 2nd, 2009
06:47:23 AM
Because they cancelled Atlantis for this...
by MonkeyLord
Oct 2nd, 2009
07:27:07 AM
BSG Ripped off Philip K. Dick
by RainesMaker
Oct 2nd, 2009
07:46:05 AM
Dioxholster must be crying himself to sleep
by southafricanguy
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:21:36 AM
The last truly unique show on SciFi or SyFy...
by Reaver Chow
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:24:06 AM
I SERIOUSLY doubt Universe was written for "critics" LOL
by blhotz
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:46:27 AM
Atlantis was quite bad at the start.
by V'Shael
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:20:50 AM
both previous pilots
by Himbo
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:43:04 AM
Needs Interesting Characters
by _Maltheus_
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:48:09 AM
SG-1 Pilot
by _Maltheus_
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:49:48 AM
SG-1 PILOT
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGH TS
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:55:23 AM
_Maltheus_
by Hairy Nutsack
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:40:13 AM
Really?
by _Maltheus_
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:45:49 AM
This is the last Stargate show
by SmokingRobot
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:52:05 AM
Sooner the better
by Donkey_Lasher
Oct 2nd, 2009
11:44:39 AM
SG1 Seasons 1 - 8 > BSG Seasons 2 - 4
by MisterE
Oct 2nd, 2009
12:25:30 PM
Oh, and SG1 all seasons > SG: The Movie
by MisterE
Oct 2nd, 2009
12:27:39 PM
Oh, and SG1 all seasons > SG: The Movie
by MisterE
Oct 2nd, 2009
12:29:16 PM
God, if they'd only stuck with Babylon 5: Crusade.
by cookylamoo
Oct 2nd, 2009
12:44:07 PM
Every Herc Coaxial Review
by PeanutButterSlut
Oct 2nd, 2009
12:57:36 PM
Say what you will about Stargate shows...
by TheHichhiker
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:12:39 PM
cookylamoo (RE: Crusade)...
by MisterE
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:24:42 PM
MisterE - About Stargate movie
by TheHichhiker
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:25:07 PM
Stargate is for morons. Come back, Farscape!
by Raymar
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:28:25 PM
So it'll be just like Battlestar Galactica...
by Margot_Tenenbaum
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:33:13 PM
Also I can't wait until they start playing 72 episodes of this p
by Margot_Tenenbaum
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:35:10 PM
er day.
by Margot_Tenenbaum
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:35:34 PM
wheres diox???
by Six Demon Bag
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:38:13 PM
TheHichhiker (RE: Stargate: The Movie)...
by MisterE
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:40:46 PM
Stargate movie...
by Hairy Nutsack
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:49:31 PM
Crusade - leaked first season finale script
by TheHichhiker
Oct 2nd, 2009
01:59:24 PM
MisterE - Dark City
by TheHichhiker
Oct 2nd, 2009
02:06:24 PM
Dioxholster's Big Night
by InActionMan
Oct 2nd, 2009
02:36:05 PM
Predict it won't go past Season 1...
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:21:20 PM
StarGate
by Mr.FTW
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:32:21 PM
Herc Herc Herc...
by Obama_Von_Hitler
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:40:59 PM
Umm... Atlantis ONLY ran half as long because of SG: Universe...
by blhotz
Oct 2nd, 2009
03:53:30 PM
Win Obama WIn
by PeanutButterSlut
Oct 2nd, 2009
04:07:15 PM
Also, INACTIONMAN ATTN:
by PeanutButterSlut
Oct 2nd, 2009
04:08:00 PM
P.S.
by PeanutButterSlut
Oct 2nd, 2009
04:09:26 PM
InActionMan...
by Pvt. Noguchi
Oct 2nd, 2009
04:28:37 PM
InActionMan please take a step back...
by McDylbot
Oct 2nd, 2009
04:42:20 PM
...
by McDylbot
Oct 2nd, 2009
05:39:28 PM
you're ssuming the TV shows were on par with each other
by Maniaq
Oct 2nd, 2009
06:08:00 PM
Stargate is following the Trek formula.
by Quantumhawk
Oct 2nd, 2009
07:37:36 PM
Writing sexual fantasies about Dioxholster?
by Bill Clay
Oct 2nd, 2009
07:48:37 PM
Ok People..............
by axcel1
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:07:00 PM
RDA CLASSIC... fatter but still the same hilarious self!
by blhotz
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:15:11 PM
Ok, People..............
by axcel1
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:19:25 PM
InActionMan
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGH TS
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:29:31 PM
I'll be watching SG:U later
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGH TS
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:34:36 PM
Looks like the Cylons are attacking
by HollywoodHellraiser
Oct 2nd, 2009
08:44:35 PM
Ok.............
by axcel1
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:17:23 PM
Stargate lost it after they introduced Atlantis and the Ori
by beane2099
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:17:49 PM
Oh so humorless
by InActionMan
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:23:25 PM
So far, so boring!!
by HollywoodHellraiser
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:40:34 PM
Well..................
by axcel1
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:45:16 PM
ZzzzZZzzz
by haleakala
Oct 2nd, 2009
09:52:52 PM
it's dead jim...
by haleakala
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:02:23 PM
Ah, guys....................
by axcel1
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:06:13 PM
It's BSG! No, it's LOST! No, BSG! No......
by zillabeast
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:07:20 PM
Wasn't as awful as the trailer made it out...
by Bill Clay
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:11:24 PM
There was a really really good trailer...
by blhotz
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:17:54 PM
BSG sucked sack
by Yamato
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:22:07 PM
JUST ANOTHER SPACE SOAP
by HaterofCrap
Oct 2nd, 2009
10:22:53 PM
It could have been written by JD Salinger and
by snowpuff
Oct 3rd, 2009
12:45:44 AM
AICN fanfic? Say it ain't so!
by growltiger
Oct 3rd, 2009
01:24:11 AM
Voyager redux?
by growltiger
Oct 3rd, 2009
01:34:01 AM
Melvin_Pelvis: Why sad?
by growltiger
Oct 3rd, 2009
01:37:30 AM
IN-ACTION MAN!!!!
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Oct 3rd, 2009
02:52:30 AM
Ina-Godda-da-Action-man....
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Oct 3rd, 2009
03:16:45 AM
I haven't been able to spell...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:10:35 AM
Herc you're an idiot
by lsleelee
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:16:12 AM
Stargate is the ultimate definition of FAIL
by Megan_Foxs_Tool_Box
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:25:20 AM
Isleesee is not happy...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:31:04 AM
Isleelee isn't exactly happy, either...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:37:51 AM
It's Lsleelee
by lsleelee
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:41:54 AM
Also I suspect short memories...
by lsleelee
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:52:05 AM
"There's no reason to make shit up about it ripping off BSG..."
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:53:30 AM
Where did that 9 come from???
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth
Oct 3rd, 2009
04:54:58 AM
Excellent! :)
by chronicallydepressedlemming
Oct 3rd, 2009
06:37:21 AM
Finally watched it on Hulu
by br1947
Oct 3rd, 2009
08:49:28 AM
I
by Nasty In The Pasty
Oct 3rd, 2009
08:58:48 AM
I
by Nasty In The Pasty
Oct 3rd, 2009
08:59:03 AM
I'd eat the corn out of Ming Na's poop
by Nasty In The Pasty
Oct 3rd, 2009
08:59:54 AM
InActionMan... wow, just wow
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
Oct 3rd, 2009
09:06:55 AM
I liked it
by twogunjames
Oct 3rd, 2009
09:41:56 AM
Stargate Fan says "BOOOORING!"
by dead youngling
Oct 3rd, 2009
10:12:56 AM
SGU=ENNUI
by DrMorbius
Oct 3rd, 2009
10:16:19 AM
I don't like the cast
by ulcer
Oct 3rd, 2009
11:05:07 AM
Diox, you just got F'd in the A, literally.
by anonymoose
Oct 3rd, 2009
11:23:33 AM
Watching it on Hulu right now...
by obi_juan
Oct 3rd, 2009
12:09:22 PM
Dark depressing rubbish for the kids under 25
by Vision
Oct 3rd, 2009
12:09:49 PM
This was pretty good
by offput
Oct 3rd, 2009
12:11:12 PM
It tried way too hard to be BSG
by Turingtestee
Oct 3rd, 2009
12:58:09 PM
Can't Judge this Show From the Pilot
by _Maltheus_
Oct 3rd, 2009
01:07:16 PM
A few thoughts.
by obi_juan
Oct 3rd, 2009
01:35:18 PM
watched like the 1st 40 min......
by rben
Oct 3rd, 2009
01:50:25 PM
Loved SG-1, liked SGA....
by cybevenom
Oct 3rd, 2009
02:27:36 PM
Some basic trappings of Sci-fi series and what does and doesn't
by DougMcKenzie
Oct 3rd, 2009
02:53:13 PM
obi_juan, good news..............
by axcel1
Oct 3rd, 2009
05:03:42 PM
Nice.
by obi_juan
Oct 3rd, 2009
05:25:52 PM
DADDY!!! NOOOO!!! YOU LOGICAL BASTARD!!!!!!!
by HaterofCrap
Oct 3rd, 2009
05:28:37 PM
Exactly hater.
by obi_juan
Oct 3rd, 2009
06:35:11 PM
The Psychic Stones allow for cameos...
by Bill Clay
Oct 3rd, 2009
06:51:11 PM
obi_juan................
by axcel1
Oct 3rd, 2009
07:53:56 PM
Lost In Space + BSG = Stargate: Universe
by Jamie McBain
Oct 3rd, 2009
08:26:23 PM
enjoyed InActionMan's fanfic more then I did the pilot
by RaveX
Oct 3rd, 2009
09:31:32 PM
"Ming-na's character is annoying"...
by ulcer
Oct 3rd, 2009
09:36:08 PM
Melvin_Pelvis................. .....
by axcel1
Oct 3rd, 2009
09:45:49 PM
ulcer................
by axcel1
Oct 3rd, 2009
09:58:35 PM
And, Melvin_Pelvis & ulcer..............
by axcel1
Oct 3rd, 2009
10:07:18 PM
obi_juan- the non-linear structure improved the pacing
by TheSecondQuest
Oct 3rd, 2009
10:33:27 PM
Melvin_Pelvis re:Ming-Na...
by Hairy Nutsack
Oct 3rd, 2009
11:23:04 PM
The problem with SG:U...
by Gislef_crow
Oct 4th, 2009
12:09:56 AM
re: Problem with SG:U
by Gislef_crow
Oct 4th, 2009
12:29:45 AM
re: re; Problem with SG:U
by Gislef_crow
Oct 4th, 2009
03:08:23 AM
Peter DeLuise??
by Son of a Butch
Oct 4th, 2009
03:16:20 AM
The problem with Hercules....................
by axcel1
Oct 4th, 2009
08:13:48 AM
having JUST seen this..
by chronicallydepressedlemming
Oct 4th, 2009
11:32:15 AM
WOW, chronicallydepressedlemming... ........
by axcel1
Oct 4th, 2009
12:56:09 PM
chronicallydepressedlemming...
by Son of a Butch
Oct 4th, 2009
03:33:34 PM
As Herc reported, SG:U did rip off everybody...
by NoHubris
Oct 4th, 2009
05:13:03 PM
NoHubris..................
by axcel1
Oct 4th, 2009
05:47:38 PM
Oh, and, Son of a Butch......................... .
by axcel1
Oct 4th, 2009
05:51:32 PM
Oh, lordy, lordy, I can't wait for November 25th...........
by axcel1
Oct 4th, 2009
05:54:35 PM
axcel1
by NoHubris
Oct 4th, 2009
06:08:36 PM
"you go on about how they need to "expand the imagination","
by Gislef_crow
Oct 4th, 2009
06:13:13 PM
Well that was mediocre!
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
Oct 4th, 2009
06:13:53 PM
re: newbies
by Gislef_crow
Oct 4th, 2009
06:16:08 PM
NoHubris..................
by axcel1
Oct 4th, 2009
07:56:39 PM
I meant, Farscape
by axcel1
Oct 4th, 2009
08:04:10 PM
A few more thoughts.
by obi_juan
Oct 4th, 2009
08:29:15 PM
Lou Diamond Phillips, military, women
by Gislef_crow
Oct 4th, 2009
09:33:35 PM
Communicating with Earth
by Gislef_crow
Oct 4th, 2009
09:37:32 PM
That's unfortunate.
by obi_juan
Oct 4th, 2009
09:56:53 PM
Rush is O'Neil and Daniel Jackson smashed together.
by obi_juan
Oct 4th, 2009
09:59:27 PM
meant to say...
by NoHubris
Oct 4th, 2009
11:57:44 PM
Lou Diamond Phillip's character can also explore the Lucian Alli
by TheSecondQuest
Oct 5th, 2009
12:04:24 AM
Terrible editing in places, lacked tension
by YackBacker
Oct 5th, 2009
12:06:42 AM
Melvin_Pelvis, the writers aren't that bright...
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
Oct 5th, 2009
08:49:41 AM
Lucian Alliance/etc.
by Gislef_crow
Oct 5th, 2009
08:56:57 AM
As far as we know...
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
Oct 5th, 2009
09:12:00 AM
Who the hell does Louis Ferriera play?
by jtp8000
Oct 5th, 2009
11:19:16 AM
Finally watched this...
by allykatD
Oct 5th, 2009
11:48:24 AM
P.S.
by allykatD
Oct 5th, 2009
11:50:06 AM
jtp8000....................
by axcel1
Oct 5th, 2009
05:01:46 PM
herm....
by Himbo
Oct 6th, 2009
10:12:35 AM

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