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Mr. Bay Announces TRANSFORMERS 3 For 2011 (Not 2012)!!

Published at: Oct. 1, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST by merrick

Merrick here...
Remember that little tussle a while back when The Powers That Be at Paramount said we'd get another TRANSFORMERS movie in 2011? Then Michael Bay indicated he wanted to take a year or so off & more or less said we wouldn't get another TRANSFORMERS movie until 2012? Well...whatever that was about...has apparently been resolved. Michael Bay has posted the following on his Shoot for the Edit site (HERE):
Transformers 3: July 1st, 2011 10/01/2009 09:41 AM Well its official: We have a great Transformers 3 story. The release date is now July 1st 2011. Not 2012. Today is Day One. This morning started with an ILM meeting for five hours in San Francisco. Currently I'm flying with writer Ehren Kruger to Rhode Island to talk to Hasbro about new characters. P.S. Megan Fox, welcome back. I promise no alien robots will harm you in any way during the production of this motion picture. Please consult your Physician when working under my direction because some side effects can occur, such as mild dizziness, intense nausea, suicidal tendencies, depression, minor chest hair growth, random internal hemorrhaging and inability to sleep. As some directors may be hazardous to your health, please consult your Doctor to determine if this is right for you. Pain and Gain is right after shooting of Trans 3. Michael
Is Kruger writing the third film all by himself? Beause it if took 3 people (Ehren being one of 'em) to come up with the "script" for REVENGE OF THE FALLEN...a film that made no sense at all & actually managed to make robots, explosions, guns, and jets completely boring...what the hell's gonna happen with only one guy pulling it together? 2011? Wonder if this was in any foretold in the Mayan prophesies...

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  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    fuck

    by inb4scriptgirl

    now that's some bad news

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Don't care

    by Gabba-UK

    No Really

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    well fuck me

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    More BayASS!!!

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Who gives a shit.

    by The Fly on the Wall

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    i thought he wasnt directing the third one

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Funny shit re: Megan Fox

    by YackBacker

    I tell ya, Bay is a fucking wrecking ball of a filmmaker, but I do love his treatment of his whiny starlet. Hats off, Bay. Now, try and avoid being a racist bastard this time around. :)

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay, proof that evolution doesn't always work foward

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Megan Fox still has sand in her vagina

    by Cajunsblues

    But damm she is still great to look at

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Dear Michael Bay,

    by ballyhoo

    Please get assassinated.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, noon CST

    I gained a new respect for Megan Fox

    by AsimovLives

    when she bashed Michael "Pussy Ass" Bay. And it's obvious that "3 crewmen" letter was writen by Michael Bay himself. Michael Bay is a piece of shit, and even the starlet that owns her career on one of his movies can't fucking stand him. That's how fucking bad Bay is. Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, noon CST

    Fuck Michael Bay.

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Good point about Bay mentioning Fox

    by The Fly on the Wall

    I sincerely thought Transformers 2 was THE biggest waste of money I've ever spent at the movies, but damn if it isn't funny to see him fuck with Fox during the initial announcement of the third film.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Next time Rastafarian-blunt smokin'

    by skimn

    sidekick Trannies.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    So what would you all rather have- TF3 or BAD BOYS 3?

    by YackBacker

    I hate to say it, but I'd rather see robots doing illogical, moronic things for 2 hrs. I somehow find it more unbelievable that 2 Miami cops can afford designer clothes and fancy cars on their union pay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    After the train wreck

    by guido505

    That was Revenge Of The Fallen (and I'm surprised Bay didn't actually GET a train wreck into that movie) I have zero interest in another Transformers movie. As AsimovLives put it. Fuck Michael Bay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    ORCI and KURTZMAN jumped ship?

    by santoanderson

    I don't blame them.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by rogueleader66

    Ok, how do you REALLY feel about Michael Bay? Hahahahaha.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    YackBacker, Bay IS a fucking racist

    by AsimovLives

    All his black characters in all his movies are black-faced ministrel level type characters, including the leads. And it's not just his hidden racism that cames across from his movies, but also one of the most extreme cases of in-the-closet hidden gay in the whole of Hollywood. Bay makes Pedro Almodovar and John Waters look like Lee Marvin/Charles Bronson-like tough macho men in comparison.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Where is the GAY FOR BAY crowd?

    by AsimovLives

    They aren't here yet to make a presence felt yet

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Bad Boys 3

    by tomcruise1

    What happened to BB3??!! http://sickpicks.blogspot.com/

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Was bored out of my mind watching #2

    by Rollotomskasi

    Watched Revenge Of The Fallen a couple of days ago. Love action movies, and have enjoyed most of Mr Bay's work up to now (excluding Transformers #1) and thought at the very least I'd be in for some good special effects. Yawn! Dull, dull, dull, dull and DULL! But hey, it made loads of cash, so bring on the third!!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    "So what would you all rather have- TF3 or BAD BOYS 3?"

    by AsimovLives

    I would rather have Michael Bay sent in a rocket into the Sun and see him die a bad death... while getting fucked in the ass during the whole trip.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Kruger is not writing all by himself,

    by Crawfish

    he's got Hasbro's Marketing and Product Development departments to collaborate with.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    santoanderson

    by Merrick

    As I understand the situation, they had to make a choice between TRANSFORMERS 3 and another STAR TREK film. They chose TREK.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    The POrci and the Klutzman jumped ship?

    by AsimovLives

    More like they are still locked in Bay's own shithouse and they won't leave it until they come up with a "script".

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Bay gonna put hair on them tits.

    by Toilet_Terror

    Robots wrestling giant bears and walruses on Mt Rushmore in order to prevent the ultimate weapon hidden in George Washington's head from being used to destroy the source of all explosions... energy itself.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Porci and Klutzman chosed Trek instead?

    by AsimovLives

    So they chosed crap over shit.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Asi, Will Smith and Martin Lawrence are culpable too

    by YackBacker

    They took money to act like stereotypes in this movies. For shame.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Talkback...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...gonna 'SPLODE!!!!! <p> The hate.... THE HATE!!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    I'll only watcha Bay movie again if

    by AsimovLives

    it's 2 and half hours of Bay getting fucked in this fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    More Proof...

    by oaser

    that America is full of retards.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    So in TF3, Earth transforms

    by YackBacker

    I mean what the hell else can transform that's big enough for Bay? Our minds?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    How you been, Asi?

    by YackBacker

    Haven't seen you around the past couple of days. Hope all is well.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    God, i don't know who i hate more:

    by AsimovLives

    The Gay Bay, the Retard Jar Jar Abrams or the Madman Zemeckis. The mere notion that this fucks exists makes me want to puke!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by AsimovLives

    How you doing, friend? Well, i was well enough, until i was reminded that Michael "Pussy Ass" Bay is still around. And now i want to puke my guts out.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    We All Deserve This Movie

    by Flummage

    You know it to be true. <p> Scorch the surface of the earth already, which ever diety got the shortnebula on babysitting duties. Please? <p> We're overdue.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    DEAR GOD NO!!!!

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    HE JUST DOESNT GET IT!! HE-JUST-DOESNT-GET IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT!!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Maybe the next big Transformer is Bay's own ego

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    three writers a crowd?

    by ltgalloway

    Perhaps the script suffered from serving too many masters? Sometimes one person with a quality vision can do better than a group. Not saying that's what we'll get. Just pointing out things unnecessarily.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Maybe Bay believes in the Mayan calendar

    by YackBacker

    And he wants to get this movie in before 2012. Bay... our path to destruction.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Asi, I'm good!

    by YackBacker

    Slow your pace a little- Merrick is good peoples but he may bring the ban hammer if you're just crazed. You're an institution here at AICN, I want you to stay put.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    what's this booooolshit?

    by the new transported man

    Bogus, dude. Haven't seen TF2 yet, but that's out of fear. Is there even a fraction of a chance that these dickholes have realized the scope of the dark, demonic shit they took on Transformers & will make some reparations?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Unicron!!!!

    by krod

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Two shots of tequilla in 5 minutes already!

    by AsimovLives

    That Michael Bay drives me to the drink. Fuck that fag ass fucking fuck. Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I sat in on the meeting at ILM

    by JettL93

    oh man Bay's ideas for this movie are just mondo awesome, the designs of these transformers are gonna just blow your mind..think heat meets rocky meets ben hur<P>can't wait to sit down and find out more about the script from Bays and E-Krugs, i'll let you guys in on any secrets i find out

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    How many years...

    by oaser

    until we get a "Transformers" reboot?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by AsimovLives

    Merrick is like Mr Beaks without the pretense of intellectualism... i'm very thankful for that small mercy.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Merrick, please excuse my drunk friend Asi

    by YackBacker

    I plead for leniency on his behalf.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    OK, i see that the GAY FOR BAY crowd is slowly assembling here

    by AsimovLives

    I was wondering what was taking them so long.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    The tequilla did it!!!

    by AsimovLives

    Tezcal blanco, to be exact.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    DINOBOTS

    by philosophers

    I hope I hope I HOPE there are dinobots in this one. Also, I hope Megan Fox gets raped and swallowed alive by one of the dinobots. Also, I hope the movie ends with LaBeef drowning in a robot golden shower.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Asi, Merrick is da man

    by YackBacker

    He and I locked horns years ago, which was pretty much my fault. But he's a fucking mensch, a true gentleman.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    oaser

    by AsimovLives

    I'm affraid you will have to take like 10 mores years until you get a reboot of Transformers. which means some of the fans will be in their 50s already.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by AsimovLives

    If you say so, i believe.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I can start planning to not see it now!

    by Zardoz

    Fucking crap!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Yeah, dinobots may be essential for this one

    by YackBacker

    A whole movie with robot dinosaurs. No humans, no script. Just dinos walking around, stepping on things, etc.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    and...

    by listo65

    no one cares

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    YackBacker, you know whay i am drinking tequilla?

    by AsimovLives

    Tequilla is James Cameron's favorite drink. I'm drinking in hommage and to remind myself of a true action movie filmmaker.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by oaser

    Too true. And by then, the idea of an actual movie will be so diluted by special effects that the end result will be even shittier than the original. But Bay will still direct it. And LaBeouf will be coming out of rehab just to take up the mangle of Sam again. Hot Dog! Plus they can probably find Megan Fox in a ditch somewhere and give her work again.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    What? Bullshit!!!

    by D.Vader

    I don't believe it. Course, it was a quick turnaround for T1 and T2.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    NEW CHARACTERS???

    by ckone

    How about spending more than three seconds with the ones you slightly introduced in the first movie...There is an entire CAST of Transformers that you completely neglected in TF 2 just so you could spend time with the cursing racial twins...C'mon man, about the only good thing about TF2 aside from the FX was soundwave...that's it...and I liked TF1...but ya lost me on TF2...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Zardoz

    by AsimovLives

    I woudlnpt expect a different attitude form somebody who has a nick after Zardoz. That alone makes you awesome and cool. Clearly you are your own man, and not some hype slave.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    The story does contain dinobots

    by JettL93

    at least it does so far. the original story for part 2 also had dino bots making an appearance, so them being in Bay's original pitch doesn't mean we will see them on screen. But i will say that his idea for having the dinobots in this movie is more connected to the main plot then they were in part 2, so that increases the chances of seeing them<P>and i can confirm that dino bot designs were discussed at the meeting bay had with ILM

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    If you had been a teenager in the 80s, like i was, it looked like it took ages between The Terminator and Terminator 2.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Now that they have the story...

    by jimmy_009

    ...they need to sit down for another year and keep working on the story. Fuck, those movies are brain numbingly dumb.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Krueger...

    by NubtheSquirrel

    Am I the onely one who is aware that the new Nightmare on Elm Street trailer is online and has been since Tuesday? Where'sthe AICN coverage on that?!?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    T3 title revealed!

    by philosophers

    Transformers: Cum on my face

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Thought Bay had zero interest

    by enderandrew

    Didn't he complain to the media that no one appreciated how much work it took to make one of these films? I'm guessing someone stroked his ego and he agreed to do it.<p>Transformers 2 upped the ante in several regards, but had a weak ending. The "Fallen" was dead in two seconds. The massive Devastaor thing got taken out in one shot as well. None of the fights in the movie lasted more than a second or two.<p>The film did look very good in IMAX. I just wish we would have seen one good fight seen, anywhere in the film. If the point of the film is mindless action, then you have to bring the action.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    LOL Asi

    by YackBacker

    Thats like the story I read where Kurosawa bought the same hat John Ford would always wear because he admired Ford so much.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    As long as this shit keeps making $300 million...

    by darthvedder81

    ...they'll keep making these. Stop supporting Michael Bay if you want this nightmare to end.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    new Nightmare on Elm Street trailer....

    by AsimovLives

    ... sucks ass!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Congrats JettL93 - You're a Retard!

    by MediaGold

    Not that this is news to anyone. If you're bullshitting, you're a retard and if you're telling the truth you're an even bigger retard. Here's hoping you're just a pathological lying friendless 13 year old with chronic ADHD rather than someone partly responsible for these shitty movies because if so may Ridley Scott have mercy on your soul.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    400 million dollars domestic

    by CaseyMcCall

    makes them right. Bring it on, Mike.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by AsimovLives

    Kurosawa is my kinda man! I'm yet to find the same type of shorts that Christopher Nolan wears.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Will it be in 3D? i Hope it is!

    by philosophers

    I want to see Megan Fox's cooch in 3D!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    enderandrew

    by AsimovLives

    Bay's complaisn was about fucking money. He wanted more. He was forcing negotiations. Money is the only thing that Bay loves... exclusing big fat dicks up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    So the apocalypse will be a year early then?

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Actually a year-and-a-half.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    "We have a great Transformers story"

    by photoboy

    No doubt it's a story that involves fart gags, Megan Fox oiled up, product placement and as little as possible to do with the source material.<br><br> Fuck off, Bay. You've failed to make a Transformers film twice already, you won't get it right a third time without totally rebooting and hiring some good writers.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Yes, the GAY FOR BAY crowd is gathering

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    And thanks for the image of Megan Fox

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    experiencing random chest hair growth...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Haters

    by enderandrew

    Admittedly both Transformers films were extremely flawed, and I'm not here to defend them, but I swore I kept reading all the haters here saying they'd never watch the first. Then they shelled out money to see it. They complained they didn't like it. So they bought the BluRay and watched it some more. And then they swore they'd never see the sequel. Then they complain that they didn't like the sequel.<p>Obviously they are liars who keep throwing money at the franchise, which is precisely why we're getting a third installment.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by philosophers

    A man so close to the production, he spends his time on talkbacks.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Bay needs to die of an overdose...

    by ultimateedition

    He does too much cocaine yet he still manages to "complete" a "movie".. btw, fucktard bay just described exactly the symptoms I get when I tried to watch one of his shitty flicks. Dizzines, suicidal tendencies and I swear I could feel my IQ drop by the minute

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    great Transformers story =

    by AsimovLives

    shit explodes, lots of unfunny comedy happens, a slutish actress with big boobs leans to the camera, and some limited talented young turk comedian pretends he's actionhero material. And then shits explodes some more and too many CGI crap that nobody can understand follows. All of that shit writen in a napkin by the most abused hack "writers" in Hollywood.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    "both Transformers films were extremely flawed"

    by AsimovLives

    The understatment of the year.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    enderandrew

    by philosophers

    I'll be the first to admit- I loved the first, hated hated HATED the second, and I'm already preparing to buy tickets to the third.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    So was Transformers 2 any good?

    by ebonic_plague

    Should I DVR it when it premieres on cable in about a year?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague- oh my, YES

    by philosophers

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Enderandrew

    by oaser

    The sad thing is, you're probably right. I watched the first one, and I haven't seen the second. But people have. It grossed a shit-load of money, and regardless of it's lack of story telling, or it's ability to offend so many -- both through character and story -- people went out and watched it in flocks, so there's no way that that third one wouldn't be made. It could end up being two and a half hours of giant robots oiling up Michael Bay, with the occasional shot of Megan Fox in a bikini, and it would still make a shitload of money. It really speaks to what moviegoers want. They don't want complicated, involved stories -- stories that make viewers think. They want mindless shit. And they'll get it in droves with this movie.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    LET THE FESTIVAL OF HATE BEGIN!!!!

    by conspiracy

    And I'll start this shit off proper professional...FUCK YOU MICHAEL BAY!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Rodimus Prime will now be a stereotypical Italian Mother

    by Disney_Retcond_my_STD

    2011 what a fucking rush job, thankfully this will be the last 'formers ever.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    philosopher

    by enderandrew

    I didn't have a problem with the story they went with. I had no problem with adding in tons of characters. I didn't think the movie was racist. (It didn't suggest all Blacks fit stereotypes. In fact, there was a strong Black character played by Tyrese that didn't fit stereotypes.)<p>I just thought for an action flick, the action was disappointing.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Bay doesn't like 3D

    by CaseyMcCall

    He thinks its a gimmick, and will not make a 3D movie. But then again, he changed his mind before.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    A few reasons why it was the Shittiest Shit yet.

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    two dogs fucking....twice <p> Spinning camera shots whenever Shitta Lepoof and Megan Cox had "intimate moments" <p> Shia Lebouf screaming "BUMBLE BEEEEEE!" like a little bitch <p> Amped up "Mother" character to the point of What the Fuck? <p> Shia Laboof screaming like another bitch <p> Devastator's Balls....WTF? part 2 <p> Oh, the robots were cool.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    I think Bay just won me over with the Megan Fox jab

    by Super Rabbi

    Good for you old man!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    oaser- you're partially right

    by philosophers

    People want a spectacle, regardless of quality. They'll appreciate it more if it's good, but they'll show up in droves either way. Best case study: Transformers 2 vs. The Dark Knight= one of the worst reviewed films of the year vs. one of the best reviewed films of all time. TDK made more, but not much more.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Too true, Philosopher.

    by oaser

    Great point.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    oaser

    by enderandrew

    There are audiences for Twilight and there are audiences for Lost. I try not to get all upset that stupid shit like Twilight (or Transformers) makes a bunch of money. I prefer complex, deep stories such as Lost.<p>I also think it is possible to turn off your brain and appreciate a good action flick. Most of the action films of the 80's didn't need much in the way of story. Bay historically has been very good at blowing things up. Ultimately this is a franchise based off a cheesy cartoon to sell toys. Honestly, I think Bay is perfect for this material.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Yeah well the skipped a year dedicated to SCRIP WRITTING

    by ricarleite2

    And are shooting whatever the fuck Michael Bay thinks to be cool. He realized tha THOSE IDIOTS WHO PAYED TO SEE THAT FUCKING CRAP DO NOT CARE FOR CHARACTERS OR STORY OR WHATEVER! DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    There is no festival of hate

    by AsimovLives

    It's just people speaking the truth.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    The GAY FOR BAY crowd is here

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    enderandrew

    by philosophers

    see bizarroAsimovlives list and add: •Big ass plot holes • Too many forgettable, unnecessary characters • Nothing meant anything- we see Megatron easily coming back to life three minutes before they kill off Optimus- am I supposed to be worried? • I can go on and on

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Oh, the robots were cool.......

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    They were just in the background too much, they played second fiddle to bad acting and stupid ass jokes. It felt like at times Bay was saying fuck you to the audience with some of the visuals he put on screen. Two dogs fucking... really?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    The first Transformers movie was horrible

    by AsimovLives

    The second is even worst. Can't even imagine the degree of awfulness that a 3rd can achieve. Only Bay can.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Bay saying fuck you to the audience =

    by AsimovLives

    his entire career.

  • I have been involved with this production for a while and i'm more then happy to share scoops, you know from the past that i have offered up alot of juicy info opn several projects<P>And you guys give Bay a hard time, he's honnestly one of the coolest guys you'll ever meet and despite your rantings, he does have a passion for the source material and he's onlyaiming to please movie goers, so stop making fun of him, he's a human just like you

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    That's why i reply to him to go fuck himself

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Ha ha! Robot balls!

    by BizarroJerry

    After #2, I'm done. I went in hoping it would be better, thinking the first one wasn't THAT bad. And the constant flow of money from people with the "I gotta see it no matter the quality" mentality, and people just liking crap will ensure continued sequels. I don't think I can take another one.<p>And as for a potential G.I. Joe sequel? I just don't think I have the strength...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by AsimovLives

    So, you are one of the people i should blame for the fucking horrible retarded bulslhit that is the Transformers movie? Your efforts helped the creation of this terrible fucking movie,s and the continuation of a carrer of a terrible stupid untalented fucking hack. So, with all my heart, i tell you: fuck you, buddy.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Quentin Tarantino just announced KIll Bill: Vol 3...

    by The Fly on the Wall

    on Italian television!!! He will begin work on it in a couple of years because he "wants ten years to have passed from the last film so the Bride has a decade of peace after what she just went through". This is fucking sequel news!!! Not this Transformers 3 shit.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Kill Bill 3: The Bride pushing 50s???

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Asi, ol' buddy, ol' pal...

    by ebonic_plague

    You know what it is you're engaging in here, right? Starts with a "T" and ends with "rolling?" <p> Let me quote from Cameron's letter to the Terminathions, chapter 2... "We need to be a LITTLE more constructive here, okay?" <p> Or, hell, maybe not. I suppose MCMXVIII has made a talkback career out of Bay trolling.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Who gives a shit! It's the Bride!!!

    by The Fly on the Wall

    And she still looks fucking great. It hasn't been that long since the original films came out, anyway. Tarantino will get her kicking ass again.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    Telling Michael Bay to fuck off is constructive.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    I care so little about Transformer 3...

    by The Fly on the Wall

    That I am going to keep mentioning the badass-ness of KILL BILL: VOL. 3 until it overshadows the Bay piece of shit in all of its glory.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    You're Fucking Micheal Bay..... <p> aren't you? <p> We'll? <p> ANSWER ME DAMMIT!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by JettL93

    Thats you opinion, what a pathetic loser that you think a movie you disliked is the worse thing to happen to humanity...it's amovie buddy, if you didn't like the work we did on it then fuck off and don't pay to see it<P>it's clear from the 400 million plus domestic take that people went and came back to see the movie

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    all this Bay and Transformers movies hate...

    by BigTexas42

    gives me hope for the future of humanity.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Thank God...

    by BabyDangler2_0

    I was worried about having to wait until 2012 to see Michael Bay continue his vision... Hopefully he can raise the bar like he did this year...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    I've Decided TF2 was ahead of its time

    by cylon_conspiracy

    After hearing all the hate thrown at Bay for Transformers 2, and me having enjoyed how over the top it was, I've decided it's bothering everyone because it is avant garde, revolutionary filmmaking. Transformers 2 was ahead of its time and it seems most just can't take it. 20 years from now it will be considered a classic.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    This is good news

    by TurdontheRun

    Keep Bay occupied with endless Transformers and Bad Boys sequels....then we don't have to worry about him fucking up anything that's potentially good!<p>For this one - can we have more crude humor, please?! I want to see more ethnic stereotype 'bots, and 'MECHA' innuendo! good, wholesome family fun!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Is Kill Bill 3 going to be...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...the first Tarantino zombie movie? Or is she just attracted to abusive guys named Bill?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    boycott racist Bay!!!

    by Browncoat_Jedi

    He doesn't deserve anyone's money and attention.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by D.Vader

    Actually I was referring to Transformers 1 and 2. Typing in the phone while driving is notthe smartest move on my part.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    bizarroAsimovlives...

    by JettL93

    I wish i was michael bay that guy is so cool, he's awesome to hang out with and everybody likes him, he's also one of the more underrated directors of our time. plus he's funny and gets all sorts of ladies<P>i wish i was him but i am in no way him at all

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    I told you Bay wouldn't take a year off.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    His cocaine & hooker habit is rife.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Tarantino

    by TurdontheRun

    Is that 'Kill the Bride' he's talking about? I'm sure we'll see that - straight after the Kill Bill anime prequels, his Mandarin kung fu movie, Inglourious Basterds prequel and sequel, his remake of Faster, Pussycat, Kill Kill!!, Vega Bros., and his John Brown slave movie - ie. NEVER.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by philosophers

    What do you do on the production?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    JettL93...You Forget to mention Hookers and BlackJack!

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    I'm quite sure it was enough to go around after you stole that 400 million from the box office...Mr. Bay

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    haha day one:

    by JAMF

    talk to the SPECIAL EFFECTS guys for 5 HOURS then talk to the TOY MAKERS. well that says it all...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    After Trans 2, Spielberg would still attach his

    by skimn

    name to this series? Incredible.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    My dream Transformers 3

    by Kief_Ledger

    Michael Bay sits alone in an interrogation room, when Nolan and Cameron come in and make fun of his retarded filmmaking techniques for 2 and a half hours. Bay cries. Roll credits.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    I like how the first thing they do

    by Dapper Swindler

    Is fly to hasbro to figure out what toys they can sell with this movie. First toys, then script.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Why did Kurtzman/Orci write in those minstrel-bots?

    by FLYNN_LIVES

    It's completely baffling that they thought that would fly in 2009.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Kief_Ledger

    by philosophers

    Bay's films have made more money than Cameron's and Nolan's.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    can i write it?

    by Obscura

    i could do no worse than they did last time round.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    July 4th weekend goes to...Not Captain America

    by FLYNN_LIVES

    Thanks to Paramount for shoving Captain America into late July instead of giving it the most obvious release date possible. Let's celebrate the most patriotic day of the year with the sequel to Transformers 2.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    JettL93, I'm quite sure Mike B is as cool as the Fonz....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    That however, does not justify making a disappointing movie. The visuals with the robots were amazing in some parts while confusing in others and the destruction was on point to the way his blown shit up on a massive scale throughout his career. <p> But damn... <p> Could somebody at least had been honest about the script?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Megan swallowed hard as she approached the all too familiar door

    by conspiracy

    "funny", Megan thought, "I've swallowed a lot of things in my life...but I'll never get used to the taste of swallowing my pride no matter how often I've done it" She was depressed...the complete failure of 'Jennifers Body' had forever assured her place as cheap fuck toy for men like Bay, nothing but tits and ass to put on screen for lonely men and little boys to jack off too as they watched fucking robots fight and hump her leg. Megan sighed, she wanted to cry. Grasping the door knob with her manly hands, she took a deep breath...turned it..and walked in.</p><p> As usual, the scent of pot, sweat and sex hung heavy in the air..., it always smelled like this in his office when Bay was amping up for a movie, Michael always did liked doing the "auditions" on the spot. "I wonder who that poor bitch was" she asked herself as she noticed a pool of sweat, traces of blood and cum on Bays big leather couch, "maybe it was Dakota..I heard she was up to play my little sister in this fucking mess" She walked on, past the all too familiar casting couch, and farther into Michaels inner sanctum..the place where ideas and dreams were taken, destroyed and reassembled into profit.</p><p> Megan knew that today was different...no "Audition" as such for her, she already had the part. No..this was something different...a scene that had yet to be played out; she knew this was going to be bad when Bay had called her and given her the ultimatum.."you have two choices in this business Megan...I can kill off your character and know I'll be able to order your cunt for $100 an hour, like I was ordering a Pizza in 6 months; or I can keep her in the film and give you another 12 months of relative fame,...you decide what thats worth to you. You want it? Then come to the office...alone as usual. And fuck yourself up a little...take some fucking Demerol or something...I don't need you screaming too loud" She walked on..a little uneasy...she knew Michaels tastes...and knew this was going to be a orugh fucking night. Then she saw him...Bay stood near the massive glass wall...his silhouette outlined by the lights of L.A. behind him...a glowing cherry from the lit joint in his hand flared as he took a big drag..revealing his sweat covered face, a form lay crumped at his feet. "Nice too see you Megan he said...was just getting warmed up..care to join us"

  • Michael, that's what happens to your audiences after watching your shitty excuse for direction. If the actors also feel that way, perhaps you should make a career change to something to suit your personality better...like the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Paramount: "We're gonna need a bigger dump truck!"

    by Tall_Boy66

    So that settles that. Strike while the iron is hot and so forth. I didn't completely hate the 2nd Transformers flick (I quite like the 1st one), the 2nd movie is extremely flawed and extremely stupid and extremely annoying in many places. But, in other places, Optimus Prime tears off a robot's face and then punches it through the chest. That makes it at least okay entertainment. Fer crissakes, it was better than GI Joe!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    The script is being written

    by D.Vader

    And you guys wanna bash him for his meeting with ILM when he's flying out with the screenwriter later? I honk you should give him a break on that one.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    I do several things around production

    by JettL93

    I consult on scripts and effects meetings and i'm also involved with design. helping to desing the tumbler for batman begins is how i sparked a working relationship with chris nolan (we had been childhood aquaintances but had never worked together before). As for transformers i was brought on for the second film to opinionate the script as well as assist second unit shooting (you'll see me on the Transformers 2 DVD and bluray extras, so be sure to pick it up october 27th

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    I *think*, I mean

    by D.Vader

    Damn this iPhone autocorrect! I mean, "honk"?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    My dream Transformers 3

    by Gee Redbeard

    Unicron turns up to eat the Earth but is distracted by Michael Bay's own sense of self worth, which is way bigger. Unicron eats Bay, gets a wicked spot of heartburn and then explodes. The world rejoices. Megan Fox is so happy she gives me a lapdance. Roll credits.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Go get 'em Ehren!

    by Boborci

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Jesus Christ, Orci is back.

    by Kief_Ledger

    What's a matter, Bob? Paramount wouldn't let you ruin two franchises simultaneously?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Never Saw Transformers 2 And Better For It

    by BilboRing

    The 1st was one of the worst movies I ever saw. Who would want to see 2? And from what I heard, 3 will be a mess too.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by philosophers

    A second unit assistant who also designed the tumbler AND gave script notes on Transformers 2. Wow. shovel on the bullshit, kid.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Jett93, You consult on scripts? Please, not TF2

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    That would mean you're partially responsible for that train wreck? Please correct me if I'm assuming. <p> They must had paid you well to own up to that one.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Also "Think heat meets rocky meets ben hur"?

    by Gee Redbeard

    Think OH My meets THAT SOUNDS meets TERRIBLE.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Unicron??

    by Wurider

    Do you think that Bay has the balls to do the Unicron storyline??? All he has to do is follow the animated move? Probably cost 300 million to make but hell they can make that back in 1 week world wide. I think and Shia and Megan Fox's characters have run their course for the franchise. God forbid their child has a role in the next film!!! Unicron storyline or bust!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    I was paid well and thats your opinion

    by JettL93

    The script was not as solid as we wanted it, it's not spoke of because of the films finacial success but yes the writers stike fucked us up big time you can make a movie no problem in two years but throw a work stoppage in there and the end result won't be what you want <P>if the movie had failed then members of the production team would have been more vocal about the script but after opening weekend he all just agreed to keep mum on the topic. Transformers 3 is going to be more similar to the story style of the first film, thats is, 3 or 4 stories intertwined and culminating in an epic action denuemont<P>and yes make fun of me for inputting into the transformers 2 script, but i also did an uncredited rewrite on the dark knight script as well as my story ideas are the basis for the batman 3 script currently being finished as we speak

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    "take some fucking Demerol or something"

    by DocPazuzu

    As usual -- conspiracy = instant talkback WIN.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    conspiracy - you rock!

    by toadkillerdog

    Great story! Can't wait to find out who is at his feet!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Hello I am Michael Bay

    by ominus

    You boys cant even imagine what surprises i have for your favorite robot franchise,in the third movie. <p>But apart from the suprises,i would like to say that i took into heavy consideration some of the critics i received from the so much respected fandom,and i am here to say that i will look into your suggestions and try to fix some mistakes of the last movie. <p>So sleep well,dont get anxious about the awesomeness of the new movie,everything will be super,so super that i might even dare to say that one,two or even three oscars wont be an impossible achievement for my new robot movie. <p>Just wait and you will start.Oh and start gathering money from now,for the tickets,new toys,new blurays etc etc <p>With love Michael 'the bot' Bay

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS III : ROBOTRON & MEGAN MAKE A PORNO

    by Gorgomel

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    JettL93, you're full of shit.

    by Kief_Ledger

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    "We have a great Transformers 3 story"

    by mighty boosh

    ...(chuckling, playfully) "noho you don't...he he he"

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Why is bizarroAsimovLives acting the same as AsimovLives?

    by D.Vader

    What's the difference? A mustache?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Conspiracy = God of talkbacks

    by ominus

    cant wait for the what happens next

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    OMFG...if you people...

    by Sulla

    actually support this and pay to see it you are fools! Fools I say! Bay is such a fuckin' hack, I'll never understand the brainless morons who actually like his "films". Time to end this shit already and send a message, don't go see it, period.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    The Writting could improve

    by TygerClaw

    Given that the 2nd film was written sometime during the writer's strike, Perhaps the writing will improve this time around.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    JettL93- rofl

    by philosophers

    A compilation of your credits: Designer on the Tumbler for Batman Begins, Rewrites on The Dark Knight, Story contributor on the sequel, Rewrites on Transformers 2, Second unit assistant on T2. Wow. I've been working at a studio for close to a decade now and I've never heard of someone so diverse. Who's your agent?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Kief_Ledger

    by JettL93

    And you can prove this how?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Oh god i hope they wont introduce the

    by ominus

    headmasters in the franchise.Megan Fox operating her own transformer,maybe Arcee.jesus.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    LET THIS BE THE END!!!!

    by GeorgieBoy

    Please, for the love of Obama, let this be the last Transformers movie (at least made by Bay!)

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    I say good.

    by Amazing Maurice

    Let Bay have his 'trilogy'. Then let him fuck off and make Fag Boys 3 and we can forget these movies ever happened.<P>After Bay, we can finally have this franchise rebooted: Transformers Begins.<p>Bring in Simon Furman as a consultant.<p>Hire a director who actually loves this franchise the way Jackson loved Tolkien's work, the way Sam Raimi loved Spider-Man and the way Del Toro loved Hellboy.<P>Maybe then we'd finally get a worthwhile sci-fi epic that actually lives up to the majesty of the concept.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    JettL93...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is the Supershadow of AICN talkback. Hell, he might even be THE Supershadow.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Orci & Kurtzman are fucking hacks.. But...

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    I believe that Michael Bay can snort cocaine off some cheap hookers, and make a film that will seriously fuck your eardrums.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    asimov u forgot Turturos string and buttocks

    by ominus

    zoomed in our face.Ok i might expect that from him in a Coen film,but not in a fucking movie about Transformers.I think Turturo has lost the respect to himself.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Conspiracy owned "I swallowed a lot of things..."

    by Disney_Retcond_my_STD

    Hey JettL93 take your PA ass back to Bay and tell him to put Conspiracy's scene in the movie

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Well Someone Has to say it...

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    Will Shia Lebouf be skiing down the side of a skyscraper to the tune of "you got the touch" (sung by nickelback)..in this abortion of a trilogy

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Hellboy,LOTR and Spiderman although

    by ominus

    great movies,they werent very faithful to the original source,many were changed or added to acquire a more commercial appeal. <p>Only Cameron is capable of combining spectacle,action,drama,scifi and romance in his movies.I hope there is an alternate timeline where he is the one who has made the transformers movies and not Bay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    "The majesty of the concept"

    by ebonic_plague

    I like old school Transformers as much as any other pop-culture infused child of the 80's, but let's not kid ourselves about the "majesty" of the concept of alien robots that turn into cars and jets and dinosaurs. I fully expect to come to this site in 10 years and read passionate screeds about how Ratner completely missed the subversive brilliance of the Jungian archetypes inherent in the hero's journey mythos of the goddamn Power Rangers.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Amazing Maurice

    by philosophers

    I actually loled when I read "Maybe then we'd finally get a worthwhile sci-fi epic that actually lives up to the majesty of the concept." lol. Sorry dude, I loved the Transformers growing up as much as the next guy, but there's no "majesty" to the concept of giant robots that transform into vehicles fighting each other.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    People don't know my name because i prefer to go uncredited

    by JettL93

    the lime light was nenver my style, Bay suggested i go into directing but i refuse, thats too much spotlight on me, i'd rather just give my input of scripts and stuff and let my work speak for itself, someone jokinly said i should go up and accept Health oscer for him, i'm so glad his family did it for me. I was filmed dusring the making ofs on transformers 2 (or as we on production called it "Trans to the 2 dot") so go out an buy the DVD and bluray on october 27th if you want to see me

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    and Evangelion sucked

    by ominus

    Robotech,macross,gundam,voltron and so on.damn those robots fighting each other...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    One of the dumbest scenes in the movie....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Was the Megan Fox gratuitous ass shot on top of the motorcycle while airbrushing. <p> Who's idea was that? <p> You guys didn't have time to consult with an airbrush artist before you shot that? if you did you would've known it was physically impossible to spray that way. <p> First the paint would've ran, "drip" so to speak, making it difficult to control while attempting to shade in an area. <p> Second, Where's the hose leading to the compressor? If she was really "working" like that she would've been wrapped up in the damn thing. <p> I personally used airbrushes for over ten years. Although it was cool to see her using one and I like ass shots as much as next guy. But if Megan Fox can't sell her sexiness through her acting, ship her to Maxim magazine, Now. <p> It was also a sign of things to come in that badly written movie that used dog jokes and "Sam Screaming" as 75 percent of the dialogue. I can't accept the excuse of a writer's strike having an effect on the outcome of this movie. I blame laziness, lack of common sense and obvious ass kissing.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    JettL93 if u want to be passed as someone

    by ominus

    elses,taking advantage of the web's anonymity,try not to use the 'I' a lot.Talking all the in the first person,about your achievements,well is a big giveaway of your deceit.Just do it with an indirect way.cheers.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by ebonic_plague

    Bravo, I say I say, bravo! If there was a talkback Oscar, you'd get my nomination. <p> Speaking of which, I can't wait for the Hobbit and the return of Pud and his war against Orcish racism.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Bay, cut back on the stupid humor

    by Acappellaman

    Seriously, when your characters are being attacked by ten-story-tall robots, have them actually act SCARED and not be cracking jokes while shrapnel is flying past their skulls. Even if it's based on a comic book, these are life and death situations for these characters - have them act that way. The levity can come at more appropriate times. The biggest weakness (other than the script) for the Transformers was the exact same weakness as Independence Day had, although that script was weak too. Heck, it's the same weakness pretty much ALL of Bay's movies have. Treat the material with respect and the money will roll in even faster than the others. Look at The Dark Knight. There was humor there, yes, but it was done in an appropriate manner. Oh, and look how much money THAT movie made. See what I'm saying, Bay? Seriously, there's more to a movie than special effects. Those are used to ENHANCE the movie, not drive it.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    yes, the hobbit should be awesome

    by JettL93

    the sript is almost done, D-tor and I just finished wrapping up our jam sessions

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Shia Labeufs Gotta Eat

    by Danny_Glovers_Dickblood_Is_A_Faggot

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Guys, JettL93 is just Jett Lucas...

    by D.Vader

    Having some fun with the fanboys.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    JettL93 and the retard agument to support a movie: box office

    by AsimovLives

    How to spot a retard? Easy. They are the ones qwho equate box office with a movie's quality. This idiots must think that money is God's own juice on Earth.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Anyone who is interested in this...

    by Thrillhouse77

    has zero taste! Boo-yah!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    I think the Shia/Fox story is done by this point

    by lockesbrokenleg

    How about bringing in some new characters. Keep Sam if you have too, but don't drag everyone back. Also, can we finally see Cyberton?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    JettL93 IS Michael Bay!!!

    by AsimovLives

    That fucking pussy is here! Hysterical!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    minor chest hair growth

    by thatpussywonteatitself

    lol. Can someone tell bay and Fox to get a Room. The sexual tension between them is killing me.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Jett93, You should make a movie...

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    About how you and the "Bay bunch" pulled one of the biggest heist in Entertainment history when you snatched 400 million dollars from the Box Office. <p> I can hear one of your meetings now. <p> " I'm telling you man, "sniff" we fucking put that audib--autto-ma- hey Jet! what's the name of that shit again? Um--Autbots Mi-- <p> Yeah Yeah Autobots---we put that logo on a poster we'll be rich by morning! <p> Jet93 looks at his watch, It's 11:00 am Mike. <p> Don't badger me motherfucker! Now go get me some more coke!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    BAY LIVES

    by 2007

    NOT ANOTHER BAY TALKBACK...IT'S TOO SOON. NOW EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO BE COOL ONLINE WILL BE UP IN ARMS.. THIS SITE IS SO FULL OF FAN BOYS TALKING NOTHING BUT HATE THAT ANY CHANCE OF YOUR VIEWS BEING TAKEN LEGITIMATELY ARE NIL EVEN GOOD MOVIES.. THE TALK BACKS BELITTLE. ASK 13 YEAR OLD BOYS IF TF WAS THE "WORST MOVIE THEY HAVE EVER SEEN" YOU KNOW, THE SAME 13 YEAR OLD BOYS THAT WATCHED THE ORIGINAL SHOW AND PLAYED WITH THE TOYS... YES BAY IS A misogynist YET THIS VERY SITE GIVES SHIT LIKE CRANK 2 THUMBS UP BAY IS A RACIST WHILE SOUTH AFRICA WON'T LET DISTRICT 9 BE PLAY IN THEIR THEATERS DUE TO HOW BLACK PPL ARE MADE OUT TO LOOK. YOU WANT RACISM IN CINEMA LOOK NO FURTHER THAN INGLORIOUS BASTARDS. TF 3 WILL BE HUGE...AS HUGE AS TF2 WAS GOING TO BE IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT 2ND ACT. HOW CAN YOU SAY TF IS ABOUT NOTHING BUT CRAZY STUPID ACTION DRIVEN PLOT AND JOKES AND CRANK 2 GETS HIGH SCORES??? AGENDA ANYONE?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague and philosopher

    by Amazing Maurice

    Respectfully, I disagree.<P>There are certain concepts that seem to be timeless and universal in the capture of our imaginations. Dinosaurs, extra-terrestrials, light sabers and 'Giant Transforming Robots' to name a few.<p>Try not to base your expectations of what a Transformers movie could be on the basis of Bay's two utterly appalling fuck ups.<P>And don't even get me started on the missed oppertunity of Power Rangers. ;)

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    if a movie makes money then it is a sucess

    by JettL93

    i never said that means its a great movie but from a studio and a production standpoint a film like tranformers 2 is a huge sucess, and your a retard if you think it isn't, you obviously not in the movie business , money equels profits meaning bigger paychecks. There are very few people in the business we call show who are in it just for the passion, and if they are they are the ones who are dirt poor and you've never heard of them before

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    2007,

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Bay's Publicist <p> LOLOLOLOLOL

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Conspiracy, including even a mention of Dakota Fanning

    by YackBacker

    Is fucking legendary. Hats off. Keep 'em coming.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    *opportunity*

    by Amazing Maurice

    Fuck.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    JettL93 hope they used a grammar/spellcheck on your rewrites

    by pjvader

    was it you who added "the twins" to TF2 and the swat team van dialogue to dark knight?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by the new transported man

    As it's been said before, there's been over 20 years of Transformers fiction, much of which has vastly expanded the mythos. If you demand Star Trek or Star Wars stories that respect & possibly expand the best of the source material, you can demand the same for Transformers, toyline be damned. The Transformers backstory is full of political unrest, gladatorial combat, creationism, universal conquest, social upheaval, etc.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Jettl93

    by damned-dirty-ape

    I really enjoy watching you wind everybody up, but come on man, saying you were told to accept Ledgers Oscar is going overboard

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    HEY JETT! MIKE WANTS HIS COKE!

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    It's going to be a long night of revisions and rewrites!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    MCMXVIII must be crying under a bridge

    by ricarleite2

    Wearing rags of the damn you michael bay t-shirt.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Respectfully? RESPECTFULLY?!?!

    by ebonic_plague

    HOW DARE YOU TRY TO WEASEL OUT OF YOUR TB DUTY TO BE A PRICK!! Nah, I agree, there could definitely be a thoughtful giant transforming robot movie... Ang Lee managed to make Hulk into something more than simply "HULK SMASH!" But I already got everything I wanted from a TF movie (with regards to "majesty") back in the 80's with the animated one. For me, any attempt to top that by throwing money at Bay is inevitably going to fail, because you can't catch that kind of lightning in a bottle twice... or something. This stuff is just nostalgia/effects porn. <p> And Daniel Day Lewis should play the White Ranger!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by AsimovLives

    Listen, you pussy, i don't give a fuck about a mvoie's box office. I give a fuck about it0'squality. I pay to watch a movie, i want a good one. That is all that fucking matters. It«'s slave ass pussies like you who must think that box office is some mandate from Heaven that awards excelency with cash. It's not! Shit can turn sucessful. Shit can win at the box office. It has happen before, it will happen in the future. Why, nobody knows. Only stupid ass retards think that box office is any indication of merit. And only a retard fuck like the Gay for Bay jerk-offs would sport that kind of idea. Basically, supporters of Bay = retards.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    GAYS FOR BAY aplenty!!!

    by AsimovLives

    See the spectacle of Gays For Bay sucking their favorite hack's balls. Truer enemies of cinema there aren't.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    so assimov, your saying that

    by JettL93

    a shitty movie that makes a studio millions in profit will not be seen as a sucess from said studio?<P>Funny people was a better movie then transformers was (hey i can be honnest) but do you think for a second Universal is content in that...no of course not they would of much rather had the big bang robot movie that made over 700 million instead of a sweet comedy that critics loved<P>thats why every toy and game you loved as a child is being spun into a movie franchise, because the studios are a business, Nobody wants to have the same misfortune Orion had or that MGM is having now

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Sorry for the delay...had a meeting to attend.

    by conspiracy

    I'll get back to work asap..lol

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    So JetL93, you said, and I quote

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    "There are very few people in the business we call show who are in it just for the passion, and if they are they are the ones who are dirt poor and you've never heard of them before." <p> In other words, are you saying that if you are a passionate director or writer you will not succeed in Hollywood? Are implying they have to be a money hungry, HACK, ass kisser such as yourself?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Had to chime in...

    by Kremzeek

    Long time reader, first time poster. Usually reading these talkbacks makes me want to punch a kitten (why all the hate? Damn!)... but with Transformers and Michael Bay... I gotta say, it's warranted. The guy can be the coolest person ever (per JettL93) but it doesn't change that he can't make a good film to save his life. Example: I play guitar. And I'm pretty damn good. I also love drums, but I suck. I've tried for years and years and years to get better at them, but it's just not in my DNA. It doesn't matter how much I want to play drums, it doesn't make me a good drummer. Ok, maybe not the best example. But I think you get the idea. Bay can love the source material all he wants (and to those who say "its just a bunch of toys"... you have never looked at the potential in the actual story. Try again. That excuse is really old), but it doesn't change that he is not the right person for this job. The hate is warranted, IMO. And no, I've never seen the 2nd TF movie. Nor will I ever. TF1 was just too awful.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    The 3rd will bomb

    by WilliamZabkaRox

    Yes the first two made buttloads of money however I think with all the negative press and reviews the sequel got not to mention Megan Fox trashing Michael Bay, TF 3 will completly bomb. As much as I hate remakes I can't wait for someone to remake Transformers and G.I. Joe.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by AsimovLives

    Listen, retar,d i don't give a shit about the sucess. Gettid? I give a shit about THE QUALITY. You know what quality is? Of couse you don't, you work for Michael Untalented Piece of Shit Bay, how could know? You suck his balls, how could you even compreend tyhe concept of quality. Go suck Bay's cock, man, that's what is what you really do at his set, if your posting and your adoration for that fucking piece of shit hack is any indication. Fucking unbelievable, man!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I would pay to see a TF 3 than Harry Potter

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I think the sad costumers are the ones keeping the Potter films in business by this point.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Question:

    by Kremzeek

    How to I post without it being a wall of text (sorry about that, guys)? Do I need to use HTML tags?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    You already proved, many times, that there isn't a bad movie you don't like. We got it already.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Gays for Bay are going strong

    by AsimovLives

    The multitude of shit.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    and damned-dirty-ape

    by JettL93

    It was not crossing the line when i said it was suggested that i accept Heath's Oscar, i helped to shape the joker character in the script and it was even my idea to have the glascow smile (although i wanted it just on one side, like joker was only half smiling, i was vetoed). I knew Heath and he probabaly would have wanted someone involved in production to accept the award, he after all did say his performance was a collabrotive effort. I don't like the limelight and could never in a million years get up infront of all those people so i turn down the offer, nolan agreed to but the academy said they wanted a family member to accept if heath won

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Transformers movies have scripts

    by AsimovLives

    Yeah, right!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    the movie could and should be alot better

    by 2007

    but you morons make it out to be the worst experience of anyone's life... why are the bay talk backs so notorious? if the movie was so "un enjoyable" why isn't it in Superman Returns no money Limbo? more people see it than just you haters lol

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by lockesbrokenleg

    OMG! You went a whole post without slamming Trek or JJ Abrams.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by Kremzeek

    I've been thinking pretty much everything you've said. All I've gotta do is sit back and read your posts. Saves me a lot of typing. HAHA, hilarity. Good show.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Watch the teeth, sweetie...

    by HarryCalder

    ...Megan's here gagging on my knob and she wanted to know what you all were writing about the Transformers 3 news. So I told her and she's really pleased there's so much Michael Bay hate going on. AsimovLives, I think she's in love with you, dude. Anyway, back to concentrating on some really fine head...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:54 p.m. CST

    And nobody in Holywood likes Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    JettL93 is full of shit when he claims that. It's obvious that, IF JettL93 is who he claims to be (which is extremely doubtful), then he's using AICN to exercise some extreme sycophancy, in the hopes that Micahel Bay reads it and takes notice. Fucking pathetic, both cases.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    bizarroAsimovlives

    by JettL93

    Your the retard for thinking that a thoughtful and great story has to be a box office bomb, several great movies have gone on to make shit loads of money, perhaps the chunk of your brain that control reasoning was left on the coat hanger after your mom's failed abortion?<P>nive speling by the way

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    dstrange

    by AsimovLives

    I aim to please.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    So? You want to be start it, is that it? There's a direct link to the matter of Bay, you know, since your beloved Jar Jar Abrams was one of the wroters of the retarded abomination that is Armageddon. Don't tempt me, dude.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    JettL93...King of Talkbacks.

    by conspiracy

    This guy is fucking GENIUS! I've never been able to write fiction in the first person narrative very well..but this guy has it down I'm telling ya.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Jett93, Noone is arguing the numbers idiot,

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    We're talking about the inability to put out a quality product. It amazes me how you guys have people eager to see this shit and you feed the viewer garbage with no conscious behind it. Because of "the numbers" <p> That's the way a drug dealer thinks. You don't care about the content of the crap you're feeding somebody, only the fact that it's selling. <p> Thus the reasons for all the remakes.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by AsimovLives

    You do not have a single idea in your mind, do you? All you have is sycophancy and this arrogante notion that everybody at AICN are giullible idiots like the Gay for Bay croud. Guess what, you are wrong, dick licker. Go suck Bay's ass!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay in his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    JettL93: "nive speling by the way"= OH NO HE D'IN'T!

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    I think Jettl93 is actually Jett Travolta. In other words he's a dead retard.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Let's Have It!

    by Pawprint

    Let me take my brain out, stuff the cavity with popcorn and guffaw like Cletus the slack-jawed yokel!<p> Entertainment in its' purest form. Cocaine for the eyeballs.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    GREAT, MORE TOILET HUMOR, RACISM AND MILITARY PROPAGANDA!!!

    by CarlThorMark1978

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Glasgow smile idea.

    by HoboCode

    I'm so impressed with that no-brainer of an idea.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    because movies are a business

    by JettL93

    in this economy its to risky to take a gamble on a thoughfull great story that may earn praises from critics but is going to equal low box office. This has been going on in hollywood for almost a decade, ilegal pirating and downloading is hurting us. The reason we are seeing remakes and movies based on toys is because a movie like that will give you a guaranteed solid first weekend. Mvies are like any other business the strive for profits is what drives it and keeps it in business, you would blame a factory for cutting corners to save a few pennies...well in movie terms a few pennies equals a few million

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Michael Pussy Ass Bay is not even good at explosions!

    by AsimovLives

    You want to see great explosions used very well in a movie, go watch THE HURT LOCKER, by Kathryn Bigelow. That's how explosions are used for dramatic effects. Michael Fucking Pussy Faggot Ass Bay can't shoot explosions for shit, and that's his only "talent" that faggot has. I would rather trust Woody Allen to make a movie with exposions then that pussy ass Bay! Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass. With explosions.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives, I can't believe you fall for JettL93

    by D.Vader

    EVERY SINGLE TIME.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Bay, Lucas.. Cameron, Spielberg

    by lockesbrokenleg

    As far as blockbuster directors go, there it is. Sorry Singer fans.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Ok well i can't sit around on talkbacks all day

    by JettL93

    I actually have creative work to do, Chris Nolan needs my opinion on some Bat wing desings...opps did i let that slip, well ok that one is free the rest are gonna cost you, i'll be back at somepoint with somemore scoops

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    I Wish He Used His Power to Crush Megan Fox, Instead

    by Crow3711

    At least that would have lent this entire Transformers saga something funny and worthwhile to be remembered fondly for. Other than that, all this shit is garbage. Fuck everyone who made this successful.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by AsimovLives

    In this economy, it's COMPLETLY RETARD to make a mvoei so fucijgn expensive as the fuckign retard Tranasformers movie are and fuill that shit with lots of shit that makes no sense for the story and are complete fucking filler. If i was the head of the stuidio, i would hang Michael Bay by his balls, UPSIDE DOWN, at the gates of the studio, to teach that fucker not to over-spend my fuckign money on bullshit that has no porpose whatsoever, and box offcie be damned.<br><br>Michael Bay representas the worst case of over-spending and fiscal irresponsability there is in the whole of Holylwood. Only retarded Gays For Bay would disagree.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Racism?!

    by Pawprint

    Can ANYONE give me ONE instance of racism in TF2?!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    "Chris Nolan needs my opinion on some Bat wing desings"

    by AsimovLives

    AHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!<br><br>Who actually believes this bullshit???? UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE!!!! THIS IS HYSTERICAL!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    yes!

    by kenshin27

    please more racist bots! how about a whiny cheap jew autobot kikey? and double the amount of dog humping! could be the greatest movie ever

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Jett93, First Jagoff,

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    I CUT YOUR fucking Quote out and PASTED IT into my comment. If anybody need to check they're spelling it's YOU. You're the one who said if you are passionate about you're work you are more than likely somewhere unknown and broke. <p> So fuck you..... <p> You're a writer and the best you can come up with is an abortion, brain matter and a coat hanger huh? <p> No wonder Transformers 2 sucks ass, look at the talent that's attach to it. Ass kissing must go REAL far in Hollywood. I wouldn't hire this prick to write a coloring book.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    You think i did? I just took an oportunity to piss on a GAY FOR BAY, while insulting Michael Fucking Pussy Bay in the process. It's called fun.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Racist Bots?!

    by Pawprint

    What fucking racist bots?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Michael Pussy Bay is passionate about the paycheck

    by AsimovLives

    For Michael Bay, cinema = paycheck.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    JettL93...see, here's the problem

    by Kremzeek

    Even if I want to believe you, when you post your "scoops" you come across as an egotistical bastard. Esp. with that whole "batwing" comment. So, you work in the industry and are buddies with Nolan - even if that's true, a professional wouldn't go toting it around on AICN. It's just silly and unnecessary. Don't you see how you just damage your credibility more and more with each post? Bah... nevermind. Deaf ears, I'm sure.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay loves explosions... IN HIS FUCKING ASS!!!

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    LMMFAO Great stuff Asimov!

    by Stalkeye

    Bay deserve all the trashing he can catch. Asi beat met to the exact anit-bay sentiments 4 hours ago.But no doubt I concur; fuck Bay,Orci and Kuntzman! Fucking ass-hack!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by HoboCode

    You mean other than the minstrel act in the form of jive-talking, brawling twin robots with gold teeth and an aversion to reading?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by damned-dirty-ape

    In all seriouness man, i think you need to get some help. At first I thought you were just winding people up but now i'm beginning to think you actually believe what you are saying.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    THIS JUST IN

    by Rickey Henderson

    WILDLY SUCCESSFUL MOVIE THAT PANDERS TO UNEDUCATED AMERICAN DEMOGRAPHIC SPAWNS SEQUEL. NEWS AT 11.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay, Jar Jar Abrams, McG and Robert Zemeckis

    by AsimovLives

    go to a bar. They fuck each other in the ass. The end.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay wants my opinion on Meg Fox's panties

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    I don't have time to sit online all day. I have to go cup Meg's ass and decide how much trim should poke out the top of her panties. Some of us HAVE JOBS Y'KNOW!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I dunno, who's worse...

    by Stalkeye

    Polanski for sodomizing a 13 year old girl or Bay for his shitty and often stereotypical racist films? You be the judge.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    This gives me hope

    by AsimovLives

    DEspistes some Gays for Bay in here, it's obvious that the majority of the posters here are no longer fooled or amused by the Michael Bay bullshit. If they ever were. This gives me hope for geekdom, and that i'm in the right place with my fellow movie compadres. I salute you, amigos.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    I aarrive late for this feeding frenzy..

    by Stalkeye

    ..now all we need is Borci to join in on the "fun".

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Hobocode..

    by Pawprint

    Oh - you mean Racial STEREOTYPES! THAT'S what everyone is jumping on the Righteous Bandwagon about?!<p> There's a difference between stereotyping and racism. Watch:<p> Stereotyping = jive-talking, brawling twin robots with gold teeth and an aversion to reading. Stupid - yes. Malicious - no, in the main.<p> Racism = Another robot turning to those two robots and saying, "Get the fuck away from me you black robotic twats. You can't roll with the Autobots, robo-niggers."<p> Was Jazz in the first film a stupid stereotype, or the product of malicious racism?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by Rickey Henderson

    Surely you jest. Those twin robots spoke in jive, had gold teeth, and looked like gorillas. Perhaps in the sugar coated whitebread universe where you reside this isn't considered racist? Is JFK still alive in your insane parallel world?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah, cause robots are so racist.

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Funny how the people that scream racist at movies, etc, are usually the biggest racists themselves.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Favorite Transformers line:

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    <p>Megatron: The humans must die!</p><p>Optimus Prime: They deserve the right to choose!</p><p>Me: To DIE? What the fuck? I think most people would choose NOT to die!</p>

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    Considering that the whole story about Polanski is the result of a deranged judge who wanted fame for himself and so he comited crass injustices toward Polanski's case, and that EVERYBODY INVOLVED in Polanksi's accusation, from the victim to the prossecution office wanted a very light sentense, i'd say, it's Polanksi the good guy here. In fact, the prossecutuion office DVISED Polanski to leave country to escape the unfair and unlawful penalty that the corrupt judge passed on Polanski.<br><br>So, in trutnh, the real villain here is Michael Fucking Pussy Ass Bay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Some Knee-Jerkers here...

    by Pawprint

    Really should pull their heads out of their arses and learn the difference between 'stereotypical' and 'racist'.<p> People are so shit-scared of being branded with the dreaded 'R' they see racism where there is none.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by AsimovLives

    Don't be retard! Those robots don't have independent existence. They are the result of the artistic decisions of people. People who are racists. Got it? You Gays for Bay, you better start thinking once and for all.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay sucks donkey dick

    by kafka07

    Spielberg too. I vow to never see anything either of them make ever again.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    No, Pawprint, it's pretty racist

    by Kief_Ledger

    Admittedly I haven't seen the film, since I refuse to give Bay any more of my money after seeing TF1, but the people I know who saw it said it was pretty damn offensive. I mean, why would a fucking robot need grills?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    ASIMOVLIVES GOES ON TB MASSACRE: 3 DEAD

    by Kief_Ledger

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    Vern, who is no pussy ass, he was EXTREMELY OFFENDED with the racism in display on Shitformers 2. I rather take his opiniion of what is racism displayed on a movie then the opinions of a mindless drone Gay for Bay, thank you very much.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Wat stereotypes next?

    by damned-dirty-ape

    Lets get a poll going as to what stereotypes can be in the nest Bayformers movies. I want to start by adding the JewBot who tight with the autobots repair budget and the ChinaBot who says 'Flied Lice' a lot.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Kief...

    by Pawprint

    That's a pretty stupid line to take...<p> Why would a robot need:<p> Lips.<p> Teeth.<p> etc, etc, etc, etc

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    soembody once asked Mother Teresa of Calcuta

    by AsimovLives

    what she though of Michael Bay. Her replay was: "that fucking faggot, he should get his balls cut off."

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by Rickey Henderson

    From Merriam-Webster: [racism is] "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"<br> <br> Bay's bots are portrayed and dumb and animal like, which we can all agree is clearly inferior to humans. Even if he doesn't BELIEVE it, he's still trafficking in it. It's ugly, and it's offensive, end of story.<br> <br> Look, it's a nitpicking thing, and it's almost moot considering all the other stupid shit in his films. Because honestly, we should all be offended by his movies for what they represent overall: the decline of cinema.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Kief_Ledger

    by AsimovLives

    It's the fury of rightiousness.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    If this Talkback only reflected The movie going

    by Phategod2

    Society. Instead the unwashed masses, flock to Bay's bombastic simple minded asscandy movies.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    "Vern, who is no pussy ass.."?<p># And you're calling me gay?! Sounds like you and your stained pictures of Vern should get a room...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by HoboCode

    Psst. Reinforcing negative stereotypes of a race of people IS racism.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Gays For Bay = The Pussyfication Of Geekdom

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    And thus you proved you are retard... and a pussy.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    ZARDOOOZZZZ!!! Oh and TRAnY 2 was gay bats shitting on Rotting C

    by mattforce7

    WHY oh WHY are we getting a third one. The first movie was great!! The second was utter crap

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Lots of KKK people here

    by AsimovLives

    How to spot them? Easy. They were not offended with the racism bullshit in SHITFORMERS 2.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    "We Have a Great Transformers 3 Story?!? That's like saying:

    by Particularly Hard Vato

    We found a hot fat chick. No dice Michael Bay- no dice. One request though- can you make the brown people in it even more retarded sounding this time around? And of the love of fucking with MEgan Fox- please put her in a freaking' tiny bikini!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Ricky...

    by Pawprint

    "Bay's bots are portrayed and dumb and animal like" - but they speak and are on the side of the heroes?<p> Merriam-Webster also says this about racism: "Racial prejudice or Discrimination", but you neglected to quote that part, eh, Ricky?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    The Klan Supports Michael Bay's Transformers 2

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Transformers 2 = today's Birth Of A Nation, only shitty

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Transporter 3

    by mattforce7

    Terrible...Transformers 2 made it look like a masterpiece

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    gi joe

    by 2007

    another inferior to his peer black character that....was said to not be able to read..damn that bay

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    mattforce7, quite telling, isn't it?

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Asi approves of old men fucking 13 year old girls!

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    Apparently as long as she doesn't want to prosercute, it's A-OK! WOOO HOOOOO! Line them l'il bitches up it's time to SPLIT SUM WOOD!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Hobocode..

    by Pawprint

    "Reinforcing negative stereotypes of a race of people IS racism." To a certain extent, yes. but does that apply here?<p> As I said - Jazz in the first film was a stereotype, but not negatively portrayed, or discriminated against in the film.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Transporter 3 also had proper cars

    by AsimovLives

    instead of that GM bullshit in TF2.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    very mature and profesional

    by cloudrider`

    for a big name director to publicly mock his actress before working together. and even let his crew posted a letter trashing her. what you have to know about film crew is they are gossip mongers when they're not doing anything on the set. and they judge actors/actress only by whether they say hi to you or not. that's how petty most of them are.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    REVENGE_of_FETT proves he's unedicated, retard, guillible

    by AsimovLives

    and he eats up all the bullshit that is fed to him unquestionably, like a mindless drone. Small wonder, he is Gay For Bay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Gay For Bay = Retard

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by Particularly Hard Vato

    If you are working on Batman, can you give Nolan my reinvention of Riddler idea as a hard-core ex-military special forces badass who flushes out hard to track criminals while ignoring rules of conduct, basically leaving broken bodies in his wake? The guy would have made hi name as "The Riddler" by posting riddles in a newspaper in the city where an urn caught serial killer was preying on people, and the riddles basically got him to committ more crimes, bu they caught him... so now he just breaks rules and procedure to find his prey- martial law in Gotham... he has an enforcer soldier guy named Bane... I think you get the picture.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Funny JettL93...

    by moseaphus

    I guess script consulting doesn't require proper spelling and grammar these days. Good to know. I'll tell my 3 year old nephew to submit his resume to Bay and Co.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Ehren Krueger = Hack Writer

    by meta4

    Whater this guy (girl?) touches turns to shit. Hes fucking terrible and his style of writing is boring. Fuck this fucking guy,this movie is gonna feel like 5 hours of pure robot bullshit (much like transformers 2. Someone in h-wood needs to just go "Ehren,no,just,no".

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Hey Pawprint

    by Phategod2

    TO use a poker reference I'll see your Jazz and raise you Anthony Anderson tell me he was not the most racist thing on screen since Jar Jar.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    cloudrider

    by AsimovLives

    You beleive it was the crew who wrote that letter? It was Bay himself. It's quite evident. There's evne precedent in Bay's past actions of him pulling bulslhit to try to make somebody who rightly put him down look bad.<br><br>In 1997, Bay tried to trash the reputation of a jornalist by saying he only said bad thing sof his movies because he had a personal grunge on Bay because once Bay had stolen his girlfreind when they were in high school. The newpaper dmanded to veryfy the story, and Jerry Bruckheimer himself was on speakphone during the the interrogation of the jornalist in cauise and his editor. UIt was then revealed that not only the jornalist in cause is 12 years older then Bay, but he didn't even went to the same high school. Bay was then seen for the lying bitch he is. You cna read the whole story in the book THE GROSS, by Peter Bart.<br><br>Bay is just doing the same shit all over again. That fucking pussy! Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Jazz

    by HoboCode

    Jazz had about five seconds of screen time in the first movie in which he spoke profanity-laced jive, breakdanced, and of course died (the old film cliche of the black guy always dying). But you're right. It's not as negative a stereotype as the twins in TF2, thus no one really bitching about it at the same level as the twins. what's your point?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    if you made bayformers 3 is success again...

    by cloudrider`

    there's just no hope with you geeks. you badmouth bay all the time but you keep turning his films into blockbusters. have you no shame? i piss in all your mouths for making bayformers 2 such a huge success.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Phategod2

    by AsimovLives

    Give up, amigo. He's a Gay for Bay, he will not listen to reason and common sense.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by meta4

    I could spot the racism,but i don't take it to heart like everyone seems to do. Make fun of 10 white people its still funny,make fun of 2 black people its the worst shit in the world,how the fuck does that work? I'm not white.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Since when do we credit Megan Fox...

    by Logan_1973

    ...with an overabundance of intelligence? If she didn't understand the TF3 plot, and you guys didn't either, does that mean you are on the same level as her? <p>I think having two less writers on this is a good thing. TF3 did feel like too many people wanted to get in too many different ideas. I still enjoyed it, and can't wait for more. <p>Bring it!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Anthony Anderson? Racist?

    by Pawprint

    I didn't notice him discriminating against anyone?!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Jazz in Shitformers 1 was bad enough already

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Please Explain the Hate...

    by Azureon

    OK, So you guys don't like Michael Bay's exploding everything action movies. And you also don't like J.J. Abrams, McG and Robert Zemeckis. I get that. What I am really interested in then is what is it that you guys really like? Are their other action movie directors that you prefer? Or simply other genres?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    I swear

    by damned-dirty-ape

    if i see a Jewbot in TF3 now i want a writing credit

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    meta4

    by AsimovLives

    Racism should always be taken to heart.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    So.....I CAN'T fuck 13 year olds now Asi?

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    GODDAMN YOU FUCKING TEASE!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Azureon

    by AsimovLives

    The shortest explanation: i love the good stuff.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by meta4

    Why?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    REVENGE_of_FETT

    by AsimovLives

    Though shit, dude!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Hobocode...

    by Pawprint

    "It's not as negative a stereotype as the twins in TF2, thus no one really bitching about it at the same level as the twins. what's your point?"; you've just proved my point. Yes, the twins are a negative stereotype - I have already said they were pretty stupid idea, but there is nothing RACIST about how they are shown.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    meta4

    by AsimovLives

    I'm not even going to reply to that, as sign of respect for your. Take the hint, friend.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by meta4

    Are you trying to drag this thing through the mud? The robots were black,the movie came out,get over it.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    It's like talking to a brick wall.

    by HoboCode

    I'm out.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by cloudrider`

    i didnt know that. but just reading his childish vengeful way of trashing megan fox above, i think we can see plainly what kind of an asshole he is.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    I just got done dipping my cock in cherry sauce....

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    And was about to head down to the middle school. THERE GOES MY WEEKEND! THANKS ASI! >B^(

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Hobocode.

    by Pawprint

    You talked yourself into a brick wall.<p> There is a vast difference between racism and stereotyping.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    TurdontheRun - we'll see this new "Bride" movie

    by daggor

    Right after the Vega brothers movie. Back on topic, Hasbro is scared shitless of the idea of trying to sell toys to kids over 5 years old without a movie out.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Azeuron

    by meta4

    To be perfectly honest, I like Bay, I like Len Wisemen, I like Michael Mann,Tony Scott, I mean the list can go on. I really dunno if theres a pure action director out there though is it? I mean someone that makes straight action,no real plot.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    I wonder how ole Donny 2 c's feel about this

    by Phategod2

    "franchise"

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    The Good Stuff?

    by Azureon

    What's that to you? I'm just curious... unless of course your cinematic preferences are a secret.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by HoboCode

    No shit Sherlock. I'm talking about the REINFORCING of NEGATIVE stereotypes as being racist.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    What's the over/under on Asi's next banning?

    by ebonic_plague

    No offense, Asi, but we get the point re: Bay. You're starting to come off like that video of the German kid screaming and attacking his computer. You've blown the transaxle, you're just grinding metal... ease down, ease down.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

    by FuckMichaelBay

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

    by FuckMichaelBay

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

    by FuckMichaelBay

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I just took a shit...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    allover my comp screen. Bay, come clean it off. Now, bitch.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I'm subbing for Asimov_Lives for a few moments...

    by FuckMichaelBay

    ...although, let's be clear: the only thing I'd like to put up Michael Bay's ass is a neutron bomb.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Boy somebody REALLY wnats to fuck Michael Bay!

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

    by FuckMichaelBay

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Phate! My man!

    by YackBacker

    You know Donny adds a chin every time there's a sequel to TRANSFORMERS. He'll be Donny 3 C's this time around!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    REVENGE_of_FETT: Yeah...YOU!

    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Get Dr. Smoov to write the next Transformers

    by Yamato

    I would be awesome. Check out his transformers vids on Youtube if you have been living in a cave.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    REVENGE_of_FETT: You also WANT him too.

    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    HIS EFFORTS ARE TOTALLY WASTED ON ME AND MY ILK

    by BringingSexyBack

    But kudos on the Megan bashing. I like that.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Big Macs outsold fillet mignon last year...

    by titpunch

    They must be a superior meal. Cretins.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    That said...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...when Don Murphy inevitably shows up to scream obscenities at us, it's no-holds-barred, Asimov. Give him both barrels with my blessing.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    its amazing

    by meta4

    how much any article with Bay in it has so much hate coming from people behind computers. I never hear about you haters protesting the theater in which a Bay film is playing. Today, In the last 20 minutes, I've read the thoughts of a child Molester (Revenge), a homosexual (fuckmichaelbay), and someone who shits on his personal belongings hoping a director will come clean it up (isn't that gay as well if the director desired is male?) oh (cheyne_stoking_DMS)

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    The form on the floor stirred as Megan strained in the dark...

    by conspiracy

    to see who this poor soul was, in the dark it was impossible to tell. "Get the fuck up already.."Bay hissed, nudging his victim with the toe of his boot, "Can you believe this little bitch actually though it didn't need me anymore?" Bay mused to Megan; who though quite used to being in this persons position, found it somewhat hard to look at. "Guess he had to learn the hard way how Directors in this town work..." Bay gave the crawling shape a hard kick...; it fell forward, into the light of the ceiling spotlamp...Shia looked up at Megan with pleading eyes.</p><p>Megan gasped..."Oh God...not Shia..." she said to herself, while still happy to know it wasn't Dakota who was on the receiving end of Michaels attention "And next time fucker, learn to keep your mouth shut about your fucking mommy festish" Bay commanded as he threw a long brown wig at Lebeouf as he slowly rose from the floor; "that shit costs us points among the 8-14 female demo; Steven just might loan you too me permanently you shoot that fucking trap off again..understand.."Son"?, Shia looked spent...half dead; "Yes mommy" croaked LeBeouf...his swollen, chapped lips mumbling out the words.</p><p> Megans reaction wasn't lost on Bay.."YOu look kinda releived there baby, you though this was someone else?" Bay chuckled, the leather of his vest creaking in the dim room.."I...I..I'm just kinda ya know..shocked to see..'Him'..ya know". Bay roared with laughter...coughing at the end as the chronic took its payment. "You should know by now babe how this game is played...Once Stevens bitch, always Stevens bitch..and this bitch needed a lesson with all the shit he's pulled the last two years"</p><p>Megan finally spoke.."You ok dude?" she said as she crouched down to eye level with him, stroking his hair. "I'll be fine Meg...it was my own fault...I..I deserved it..really..". "Thats right bitch..you did...you're just lucky Steven sent you over so late; that fucking Jet was late delivering my fucking shit...and you know how I am without a good fucking high." "George better have a talk to that kid...teach him how to fucking run an errand or next time I'll forget who he is" intoned Bay...a salicious look on his face as he thought about the prospects of taking Lucas son as his treat. "Michael..you're a real fucking douche..." Megan spat. Bay leered at Fox...flicked his still lit roach at her which bounced off her ample forehead. Then grabbing her by her hair dragged her to her feet.."And you...; hope you had fun running your dirty cum eater all over the press..." he grunted. He slapped her hard across the cheek..."Lesson one about this town baby...run your mouth AFTER you can carry a movie..not before" he pushed her away...Megan rubbed her stining cheek, somehow managing to stay upright on her stilletos. She heard a door shut as Shia managed to leave during the comotion..."Don't worry sweetie..I'm done with him, and just starting with you....but not here...you and I ...we're taking a ride." Megans heart sank...Bay, Bay she was sure she could handle...but she understood where this ride was leading...and she had heard stories about what went on under Stevens roof. She quietly thanked God that this wasn't the week she had decided to stop snorting heroin....

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    "Well, I'll be a son of a bitch! I don't smoke,...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    you don't drink, and Bob here wouldn't even think about lusting after another woman! Between the three of us, we're practically Jesus!"

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Even Orcus and Colonel Kurtz took a pass?

    by Dingbatty

    The third one must be the most offensively stupid movie of all time for them not to cash in. Or were they finally feeling pangs of embarrassment?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    meta4

    by damned-dirty-ape

    You've got to admit though, reading the talkbacks is entertaining if nothing else

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    damned-dirty-ape

    by meta4

    Maybe if every article on AICN didn't devolve into this kind of crazy shit, yeah, but now its kind of like repeating Christmas every day, you eventually get bored of getting the same shit day in and day out.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Meta 4,

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Bays' HairStylist

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Good point

    by damned-dirty-ape

    I see what you mean.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Bay's hair is so gay...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    that even in the 80's it was gay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    looks like the people who are happy for crapformers 3 are:

    by ultimateedition

    Retards that don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". Poor idiots that hated one or both shitformers films yet are going to see the third one because this time they pray and hope cokehead bay got it right this time. Osama Bin Laden and mciahel bay's coke dealer

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Conspiracy does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Conspiracy, 'bringing the evil'.<p> You leave me both wanting to know what happens next, and really not wanting to know what happens next. For that I applaud you.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Um, I haven't seen TRANSFORMERS 2 yet..<p> Is this the wrong tb to ask whether it's worthy of a rental?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:18 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    What next banning? I was never banned here. Don't youn tell me you also buy that retarded bullshit that i once was this other guy! That fucking idioticy is hysterical.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    damned-dirty-ape

    by savagedave

    Well you wouldn't come here for the reviews would you?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    asimovlives

    by slkboxrman

    is proof that if u get enough attention that someone can think of themselves as such an "online celebrity" that they create a 2nd screen name on here because they think they are so cool. i bet he looks in the mirror and compliments himself for how everyone on AICN thinks hes "soooo cool" anyhoo TF1 and 2 were both awesome...to say there was no story is to simple say u werent paying attention beyond when megan foxs ass or tits were onscreen which is much more probable given the fanboy crowd assembled here...the twins were not racist, it takes a racist to realize wht racist is..so thanks for outing yourself..to think theyre black stereotypes shows that thats what u think black people act and look like...so kudos. its a movie, its not real, there is no sacredness to the "source" material...which source are we referring to? there have been at least 5 incarnations of transformers in cartoon form, this is simply another incarnation. and who else is tired of the endless dark knight comparisons ? your precious DK would never have made the money it did if heath ledger is still breathing today...the only problem i had with "revenge" is the poor use of clones, ala the constructicons being in 2 places at once, but i honestly looked at the toyline and u do have one set of constructicons that ONLY form devastator and another group that turn into robots and dont merge...so i gave them a pass on that ...otherwise it was a great movie with a great script....cant blame bay for the script....as for the balls on devs, orci took credit for that, and u people lick his nuts when hes on a talkback, not blaming him or the other guy for what u hate...its called being delusional, thinking bay wrote the whole script...honestly i cant wait to see what kruger came up with on his own....may be the best transformers ever..

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Unicron is the only thing that will get me in the theatre

    by Norm

    I said "franchise over" when the fucking dog pissed on Optimus in #1, and I've seen nothing to change my mind since. At this point, I MAY watch #2 if it comes on HBO and I'm already stoned. But I won't be wasting money on it. So for #3, IF it has Unicron and Cybertron, and IF it gets great reviews - which means it has a great script and, oh hell like that's going to happen. There isn't a chance in hell I'll buy a TF3 ticket because there isn't a chance in hell it won't be a steaming pile of dog shit.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    Don Murphy is too small fry for me. He's nothing to me. He's all yours. But if you ever need help, i'll be your right hand man, amigo.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST

    hehe conspiracy u rock man

    by ominus

    'She quietly thanked God that this wasn't the week she had decided to stop snorting heroin....' that nearly killed me from the laughs.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Savagedave

    by damned-dirty-ape

    Too right, i don't come here for the week old news either.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    slkboxrman

    by AsimovLives

    Actually, byzzaroAsimovLives is a completly different person then me. I don't know who the hell he is, really. But he makes me laugh.<br><br>I'm no online celebrity, i just am. i am my own person, with my own quirks. It's you, however, who seems too interested to be anm online celebrity, and you do that by attacking another talkbacker. I ratehr piss on fuckign hacks like Bay. If some people took notice of me, so what? You think i'm famous or some shit like that? I'm a nobody. Even in here i'm very small fish. I'm a sardine in the middle of the ocean. The guys who use my nick to make their own nicks, they are doing that for a laugh, nothing more. And i laugh with them. And you, can you laugh?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Didn't see the 2nd one yet.

    by DutchRudder

    I'd rather have Bad Boys 3, I guess. Unless we get some Transformers sex scene(s)in this new one! That wouldn't change the fact that I'm not much of a Bay Fan.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    HOWARD JOHNSON IS RIGHT!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    About Howard Johnson Sr. being right

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Unicron with the voice of Eminem or 50c

    by ominus

    Wells did it,why not these gigantic artists of our modern era?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    I had not planned it this way..but I can tie all this shit toget

    by conspiracy

    This story, the Orci/Abrams/Nimoy story and the Lucas/Speilberg/Ford shit can all tie together!!!! It will be my masterword..My evil Lord of the Rings!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Oh, uh... Freudian slip, Asi.

    by ebonic_plague

    You're certainly more... outspoken on the subject than I remember MoM or BRU being. But Portugal isn't a huge place, maybe you and those guys should form a support group, you'd definitely have a lot of common ground to share. PS- over in Coax, your boy Jar Jar has a bidding war going on for his new series; might want to let them know what sort of man they are dealing with there.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    conspiracy is the man!

    by AsimovLives

    His novelizations of thye lives of stars is pure must read. Based on true stories.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    also

    by ultimateedition

    People that judge a movie by how much money they think its gonna make will be lining up for shitformers 3.. and that is just sad

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    What freudian slip, friend? Besides, everybody i know, every friends i have and who dig movies hate Michsel Bay. In fact, i know not one single portuguese who likes Michael Bay. One radio personality live on radio called Bay's movies gay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    bizarroAsimovlives

    by meta4

    Bays secret gay lover since...The Rock.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    aimovlives

    by slkboxrman

    i apologize for assuming that ur bizzaro too, my bad. but when i see someone post as many times as u here and in honestly almost every talkback i think they like the attention, so if not, then again i apologize. i dont blame bay for everything , but i think the movies were decent given the fact of what they had to work with...the movies need human stars in the spotlight because no one will go see the movies if there are only robots, only the fanboys and in that case yes the movies would have bombed..we would never have got 2...as for product placement....its in every movie and TV show if u look for it...to say that its only in BAY movies or in crappy movies is rediculous...but i hope kruger has a great idea...honestly...i wasnt attacking, and im hardly here to attack...i just think there is quite a few of us that enjoyed the movie, but most dont want to get flamed but i dont care .....nothing personal...im just passionate about movies in general.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    I already posted my opinion about Jar Jar Abrams's new shit TV show biding war. bascially, it was "Fuck Jar Jar Abrams. Fuck Jar Jar Abrams up his fucking ass". Also, i called the networks who are biding for his show retards. It's in there, friend. And again, i didn't mince words.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    and damn...

    by slkboxrman

    youre quick writing back....dayum

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Who the fuck cares about Mr. Bay...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    ...when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in December?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Avatar looks like shit

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    slkboxrman

    by AsimovLives

    Actually, there's more then one guy "pretending2 to be me. there's thios other guy called Asimov_Lives. Can you spot the difference? But i take all that in stride, it's all for a laugh.<br><br>About Bay's product placement, let me tell you this: never was product placement more retard then whenhe used it in THE ISLAND... in the clone factory! I can understand a future society filled with advertizements. Bay's product placements would had some sense there. but inside the clone's colony, it makes absolutly no fucking sense whatsoever. It's clearly the work of a hack pushing his product placement into a mvoie any way he can, for the sake of mroe bucks so he can later have money to make more retard action scenes. It's stupid beyond belief.<br><br>The second worst case of retarded use of product placement in a movie was in Jar Jar Abrams's Shit Trek. again, anothe eexample of crass human stupidity in the form of a movie. i stillc an't fuckign believe somebody made that shit and got away with it so lightly. Perople today are eating the most dumb shit in movies too easily and too forgiving, if you ask me.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    About Avatar

    by meta4

    At the end of Fanboys when the guys are sitting down to watch Star Wars Episode I, that one guy says the exact same thing I think everytime someone brings up eyeball fucking of any sort..."What if it suck?"

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    About Avatar

    by meta4

    At the end of Fanboys when the guys are sitting down to watch Star Wars Episode I, that one guy says the exact same thing I think everytime someone brings up eyeball fucking of any sort..."What if it sucks?"

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    avatar

    by slkboxrman

    ....will bomb imho

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Motoko Kusanagi, i missed you

    by AsimovLives

    where the hell have you been, you rascal?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    DAMN DIRTY DOUBLE POST

    by meta4

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Ice Age 3 made more money

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    then bayformers 2

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Fanboys sucked

    by lockesbrokenleg

    All that hype for THAT shitty movie? Shit, an episode of Big Bang Theory is funnier.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    I'm affraid Avatar will bomb

    by AsimovLives

    The movie is just too damned expensive! It will take a miracle like what happened with Titanic to make it turn a profit. Saying that, i don't give a shit. All i ask is the movie to be good.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Freudian slip: I figure we've all been banned at least once

    by ebonic_plague

    Hell, it's AICN, you are who you claim to be... from Walter B to Corey Feldman... and as long as you don't break character, nobody objects.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    You know after i watched TF2 at the cinema

    by ominus

    i wanted to go home and visit Bays personal forum and tell him that he a soulless maker of products for consumption,who doesnt even respect his previous movie.(compare the ending of TF1 with the ending of TF2) <p>but i didnt.i was a casual visitor of his forum,when TF1 was in production,to get early the news and announcements,and i discovered that there a lot,and i mean a lot, of Bay fans who do love his work and discuss his movies,well at least from his technical abilities point of view. <p>he is a good director as his technical knowledge and skills are concerned,and he does know how to make simple,entertaining movies for the simple minded,average audience who needs something to escape to,from the boredom of everyday life.But he is not an 'artist' and there lies the controversy between his fans and his haters.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Why do they have to put the same fucking actors in it?

    by Triple_J_72

    I don't want to see Shia or Megan or Ryan Seacrest's clone Josh Duhamel in these movies anymore. There are other people in the world, Bay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    JettL93

    by DutchRudder

    Robin in the new flick?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I don't think Fanboys sucked, but it was too hyped

    by AsimovLives

    At best it's a servicable, unmemorable ligth weight comedy. Only thing that makes it try to have an identity is that it's set among star wars nerds. My majr problem with the movie is that it's too affectionable. It shoudl had been a mockery of that kind of fandom, from begining to end. The movie was too inlive with it's characters. And thus it became banal and unmemorable.>br><br>I rather wait for 5-25-77.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    aimov

    by slkboxrman

    i did notice the other variation of your sig,didnt know it wasnt u, ha ha....hero worship ? never,ever saw THE ISLAND, but stupidly i have the trailer in my favorites on youtube....i think i just love the music in the trailer, lol....but yes it would be silly on an island of clones to have prodct placement...im here for fun as well. but i can be accused of getting a bit carried away sometimes.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    So being banned is a badge of honour around here? Wow! Some of you guys are hardcore!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    For me Faboys was under my radar

    by meta4

    So when I saw it, I immediately bought it and put it in my collection.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    triple

    by slkboxrman

    josh looks nothing even close to ryan gaycrest..seacrest is gettin fat and gayer getting ready to toss dick clark in front of a NYC bus for the NEW YEARS ROCKIN EVE gig....i hate seeing him ham it up year after year...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Refusing to but a ticket to make a stand

    by CaseyMcCall

    is really quite funny. You know, after TF2's massive boxoffice success. These talkbacks should make Michael Bay smile. I know I am smiling at all the obscenities thrown at a man who makes films viewed by large crowds. So some people like Bay's films, so what? You cán like James Cameron ánd Michael Bay's movies too, you know.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    slkboxrman

    by AsimovLives

    Allow me to quote from the Great Goucho Marx: i wouldn't want to belong to any club that allowed me in. Hero worship about me? That's deranged for so many reasons. Nah, man, it's just all people having a laugh at my expense. And why not? They make me laugh too, so it's quid pro quo. How was it that the main character said in Oldboy? "You laugh, and the world laughs with you. You cry, and you cry alone."

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by slkboxrman

    dude, this place is deranged, lol...never saw OLDBOY but the quote is right on the money...so true

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    bay wouldn't know a good story if it raped him

    by alienindisguise

    This will be major suckage since none of the parties involved know how to make a good movie.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    CaseyMcCall

    by AsimovLives

    Yes you could, if you hate cinema. If you love cinema, then you can't love Michael Pussy Ass Bay's piece of faggotries he calls movies. One need to really hate cinema and wish to see it die to like the Bay's shit.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Gays For Bay = Cinema Enemies

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    and now it's time for me to say it again

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Oldboy

    by meta4

    Awesome Highly recommended

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    casey

    by slkboxrman

    ha, u refuse to buy a ticket now, but come 2011 u will buy a ticket, then swear u will not see the movie, then after u see it , u will say ill never see it again, then u will see it 5 more times, then shoot urself for being so easy..lol

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    meta4

    by AsimovLives

    We agree on something, amigo. Cool.<br><br>And no, i'm not being cute, i'm portuguese, amigo is friend in portuguese.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    Not exactly a badge of honor, Asi.

    by ebonic_plague

    More like, anyone who is crazy/degenerate enough to hang around here long enough to rate as a regular has usually (but not always) run their mouth off about something that draws the ire of the banhammer, me included. I think I got my underscore in the post-2004 election TB's when I waxed a little too philosophical about the odds of Bush living out his term. But spamming repetitive venom over and over again is a good way to find yourself on the business end of that banhammer, just FYI.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    I'll not watch Shitformers 3

    by AsimovLives

    and you can bet your ass on that.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Don't worry i said it for you

    by meta4

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    And you know who banned you? From what i understand, Moriarty and Massa are the resident republicans here (or Mori was, when he was still around).

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    I mean its common knowledge

    by meta4

    That Oldboy is a great piece of film. not knocking you though.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Beaks is becoming

    by meta4

    the new enforcer...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    meta4

    by AsimovLives

    You would be suprised on how many retard are out there who think nothing of oldboy, even calling it over-rated or not that good. No, really, there are such type of vermin out there. And some of them post in here at AICN. All of those are also big fans of Michael Ass Bay.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Still haven't seen Transformers 2

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I refuse to give money to Bay, Kurtzman and Orci.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Never take a good movie for granted, that's what i say.

    by AsimovLives

    And never underestimate the gullibility of the geeks to love and support a shit movie. I have learned that lesson the hard way.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    When it comes to Beaks

    by meta4

    Becks...Bricks... whoever whatever, he'll ban you for being racist,homophobic, or whatever his flavor of the day is but will be just as bad writing a review to a film Harry hates.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    I don't think that was it, Asi.

    by ebonic_plague

    I think Father Geek was policing the TB's back then, but I doubt it was due to GOP sympathizing. I don't blame them, it was deserved, they have to be careful about allowing that kind of stuff on their site.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Good night guys, great chatting with you all

    by AsimovLives

    and don't you forget... Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Those that hate Oldboy

    by meta4

    Don't understand the meaning in the movie,only seeing it for it's shock value.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Comandante kwisatzhaderach

    by AsimovLives

    Always doing the right thing. Respect!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Later Asimov

    by meta4

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST

    "We have a great Transformers 3 STORY"

    by NoHubris

    This should be a good thing because, as has been said in many TBs, the first two were all about action and splosions.<p>It'll be extremely interesting to find out what caused the turnabout.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Later, Asi.

    by ebonic_plague

    Get those knives sharp for the next TF3 update!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    If it was all robots it might be fun. Instead of grueling.

    by Onin Solstice

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Wasn't the cartoon all ection and explosions?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    You assholes. In some threads you say a movie needed action, but in other movie threads, you say a movie needs LESS action?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by philosophers

    You sir, are an artiste. You should submit your story to ToplessRobot dot com!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Off topic

    by damned-dirty-ape

    If you guys think the merchandising for transformers is over the top, take a look at the Dark Knight cycle suit on superherohype. Classic

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by philosophers

    Money = success. Do you agree?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Nothing wrong with action and splosions

    by NoHubris

    IMHO it's just interesting that there is this "great story" around the action and splosions for Transformers 3.<p>Just eager to find out more about this story since Mr. Bay is so taken by it.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by philosophers

    Money = success. Do you agree?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague..I feel left out, I have not been banned...yet.

    by conspiracy

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay

    by milamber495

    Michael Bay has to be one of the worst directors out there. I didn't even see transformers 2 in the theatre because the first one was so bad. He does not know how to combine action and story. They should fire him.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Whats up Yack?

    by Phategod2

    and the cartoon wasn't all action and explosions. Each Transformer had different personalties and some how the cartoon found time to focus on more then just two or three bots in just one half hour.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Great stories are all "opinions"

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Many "normal" people think the new Trek movie had a great story except for AsimovLives.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox's Ample Forehead

    by Disney_Retcond_my_STD

    I'm pissing my pants reading this shit, classic.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Krueger is the final nail in the coffin.

    by ganymede3010

    Whatever energon was left in this inoperable vessel has precipitated into oblivion.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Giant Robots are your friends.

    by Sal_Bando

    I had a blast w/ this one, as brain-dead as it was. Make MANY MORE MIKEY BAY! <p> Noted_Sage Yack_Backer, even, may watch.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Until Asimov denounces TPM his opinion is nil!

    by ganymede3010

    Come on guys, TPM is his achilles heel. How many times has he pontificated about how great it was all while keeping a straight face.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Transformers 3! Yay!

    by WavingFlagsInSpace

    After the tease of an ocular shag from Cameron, it looks like Bay's in for sloppy seconds on my sockets.<p>And I've only got to put up with 18 months of foreBay, I mean foreplay.<p>How can $800,000,000 be wrong people? The public speak with their wallets and vote with their feet. In what world was anyone not expecting a third installment? maybe only Disneyworld.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Conspiracy, don't despair.

    by ebonic_plague

    I'd be pissed if your stories got you banned, though. I haven't had that good of a laugh since the GONE! TB's.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    You know who should star in it?

    by Adelai Niska

    OPTIMUS PRIME. You know, the biggest face on the poster for the first 2 movies? Maybe let him ACTUALLY HAVE SCREENTIME AND A STORY. Since he sat out almost the whole first movie, then was dead for the whole second movie, MAYBE LET THE CHARACTER WE PAID TO SEE ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    People paid to see the special effects.

    by ganymede3010

    No one on this Planet paid to see this movie because they were captivated by the hollow story-line.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Damn, Adelai...

    by WavingFlagsInSpace

    ...Optimus was dead? I was saving Transformers 2 as a surprise for Christmas. Optimus dead? I hope he's up and about in time for Easter.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST

    I think the next Big Robots (Hitting Each Other) Movie-

    by Sal_Bando

    -will include GOATS. You KNOW Mammaries of Mommy here is gonna be FIRST IN LINE--

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    RE:"Anthony Anderson? Racist?

    by Stalkeye

    Nah, he was just portrayed as a loud mouthed shucking jiving nerd and buffoon.Anderson has great acting skills Law and Order and The Shield is living testament of that, yet Mikey made him into your run of the mill "Comedy" relief.Atleast in Bay's defense,Tyresse had a more digified role in TF.<p>But Bay is still an overblown no talent asshole.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    LMMFAO@Gay for Bay

    by Stalkeye

    That's the new catch phrase for Mikey's staunch defenders.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Hola Shit! GIJoe and TF2 are already out on DVD.

    by Stalkeye

    (In certain "areas" that is.)Paramount is desperate to rake in more ca$h for their releases.Well, GIJoe was the better of the two anyways.<p>That's right, I went "there" Bitches.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Ill Sleep When Im Dead or get paid 100 million not too.

    by liquids

    Estimates suggest Mr. Bay will net around $90-$100 million salary for Revenege of the Fallen. Go Mr. Bay get it whiles its hot!! and right not Tranformers is on fire!!!! Havent seen the sequel but putting T3 out this fast means one thing and one thing only. Take the money from the sheep and take it as fast as you can! I salute you Mr. Bay. You rock.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Loving a spoonful of TPM ain't no bad thing!

    by MediaGold

    Hello. My name is Media Gold, and I'm a TPMholic. I also adore 2001 and my favorite all time film is Alien. I just love slow paced old school sci-fi. This might have something to do with being born in a time when there was no such thing as MTV or ritalin, I don't know.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    meh

    by MacReady452

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Each ot the Transformers had different personalities

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Yeah, like Blaster who rapped all the time?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST

    ganymede3010

    by Stalkeye

    He's entitled to like TPM, while I'm supported of Watchmen,(which I'm sure Asi could care less about)DD Director's Cut and Ang Lee's Hulk.To each their own, but there are those who trash almost EVERY fucking Movie, but the minute you slam their beloved Bayformers, they pitch a bitch and become overly defensive.<p>Hint,Hint.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Let the "Bay" Pride Parade Commence

    by bizarroAsimovlives

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Yay more racist crap!

    by andrew coleman

    If you saw TF2 and enjoyed yourself you either have a small penis or you're just a fucking idiot. Or both. Jesus I understand people found it "funny" or "fun" or a "popcorn flick" but just because a shit load of white boy idiots put up the cash to see the second one does not mean it should be defended or even mentioned really. That movie had so many problems it is hard to mention all of them in one pot so I won't. I for one will not see the third shit fest. I'll wait for the reboot in 2014 thank you very much.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    they have "a great Transformers 3 story"!!??!!

    by FamousEccles

    they should have tried something like that with the other two.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    BTW, those the snarkiness mean no more Megan Fox??

    by FamousEccles

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    NoHubris - great minds think alike!!

    by FamousEccles

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    YAY

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    I loves me some Transformers! FUCK OFF HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    who cares?

    by punto

    why is this shit still being made? did I actually do good business? <p> Ok, I gotta go, David Lynch needs my opinion on red curtains.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    All you "fuck bay" people here,

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    please SWEAR you won't pay to see another one of his "movies". I swear I won't!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    It's not looking good

    by dfinch01

    but if they could cut down the amount of characters to a third and actually focus on a good story, they might go some of the way to fixing Revenge of the Fallen. We know that won't happen though. Bay's approach is clearly that more is more and is trying to sneak into our bedrooms one more time to abuse us before the feds take him away. I hate to say it, but I'm probably not going to see 3 unless I am greatly convinced by reliable sources that it isn't shit. I loved the first movie and couldn't work out how they entirely fucked the sequel. How do you fuck up that bad?! He really DOESN'T know the difference between storyline and special effects. Spot on South Park!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    The new A-Team Cast shoot!!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    http://tinyurl.com/yebajkl

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    The van is the same btw!!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    "Talk to Hasbro..."

    by monkeywright

    ...about new characters? THAT, my friends, is enough to answer any questions about why this movie, and its predecessors, suck.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Michael, seriously...

    by carlinesque_thinktank

    ...take my advise, get yourself a a gun and shoot yourself in the fucking empty brainless head. stop wasting money that could be used on things that are worth it! please, do everybody a favor and just die!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    will Unircron's firs lines In Transformers 3 be

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    Mammy's little baby loves short'nin', short'nin', Mammy's little baby loves short'nin' bread

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST

    My Megan Story based upon the plot of the conspiratorial one

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    Or...can a brother get banned for telling the truth? <p> Megan swallowed hard, by now it was an automatic reflex that even the glassy eyed stare and vacant expression that came courtesy of mega does of oxycontin, could not prevent. She gobbled up every last drop of goober goo from the 20th or was it the 200th 'actor' who dumped in her MegaSwallower™. She was the 'star' of TransFuckers XIV, as she had 'starred' in the previous XIII 'movies'. But this time, it was different, this time the Title was TransFuckers XIV: Megan really shows her dick -no honest, we mean it! <p>After having suckered her gullible and unsuspecting Tissue Warriors for XIII previous movies with the promise of Megan 'showing the goods' only to have Megan swallow more jis than Monica L, and get fucked in the ass by 'actors' wearing surplus Flesh Gordon robot costumes, the producers finally decided to let it all hang out! And yes, Megan really does have a dick. <p>But while waiting for the director to set up the money shot, the haze in her mind cleared enough so that she flashed back on the events that led to her current circumstances. <p> She remembers going to MBays 35 million dollar Malibu house - one of the smaller bungalows in that plan. But built from the sweaty backs of pros like her. She was prepared to swallow her pride -among other things, and beg Micky B for a job, but upon entering the dwelling, filled with the aroma of fuck stink mixed with cannabis and blood and shit - telltale marks of a really good ass-reaming, who does she see sprawled upon the floor in a state of sheer bliss? None other than Rumer Willis! <p>Oh, hell naw! Megan was willing to swallow a lot of things, even going down on that little whore Hallie Kate Eisenberg, but going down on Chinzilla - fuck no! <p>Megan thought to herself, 'How the fuck could Bruce think she was his? The only chin like that in hollywood belongs to Marv from Sin City!' <p> Megan stormed out of the house, and never looked back. Unfortunately due to the bomb that was Jennifer's Body, from her muff diving pal Cody, studio execs cut Megan out of Jonah Hex and replaced her with a horse -or Rumer Willis, no could tell the difference. And from that is was a long 9 mos. until she was appearing in her fourteenth cumstacular!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    I was really hoping that all the negative press and fan reaction to TF2 would convince the studio to drop Bay and start over... but that would require someone in Hollywood to have to come up w/ an original thought, so I can see the logic.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay knows what a great script looks like?

    by therobcat

    Since when?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay knows what a great script looks like?

    by therobcat

    Since when? Has he been taking night classes?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Tf1 was great, Tf2 sucked monkey scrotums,

    by Spazatronik2000

    sounds like they're taking everything that made TF2 shitty and amplifying it 3X, this one's gonna suck even more shit. Obviously they don't give a fuck since it made a billion dollars.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Did Bay allude to Megan being on her period?

    by dailysportspages

    With his point about hemorrhaging? If so, pretty nice!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    I don't know how I double posted.

    by therobcat

    An ass am I.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS 3 SCRIPT LEAKED

    by Spazatronik2000

    first act is an hour of robots fighting and blowing shit up, second act is 3 minutes long, Megan Fox washing her car in a wet T shirt, 3rd act is Shia being chased by 3 robots for 45 minutes then the final battle is an hour long fight with robots blowing shit up and tanks and military shit and rocket launchers.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Bay's the worst.

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST

    sorry shogun_gunslinger

    by Amazing Maurice

    But it doesn't matter how bad the press Bay gets, Revenge of Fallen still made an obscene amount at the Box Office.<P>I should even apologise, seeing as I actually contributed to it.<p>I knew it would be bad but I really didn't expect it to be such a shockling inept piece of utter fucking shite - an absolute embarrassment and a complete insult to the craft of movie making. Two and a half hours of dogs fucking, robot genitalia and a wall of noise.<P>It really is the glorious cluster-fucked apex of Hollywood excess run amok.<p>Apon leaving the cinema, I was told Michael Jackson was dead.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST

    fan outcry?

    by 2007

    I'm sorry but again this isn't Superman Returns, TF2 was well received by audiences and did huge numbers. there is a world outside this self important talk back session. bay should take someones advice and shoot himself? yea good idea, before you fanboys end his career.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST

    genius plan...

    by VoteRoslin08

    make it fast before people realize part 2 was a ridiculous CGI-gasism that managed to make giant robot fight scenes boring.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Nightmare remake trailer on youtube

    by ThePilgrim

    Whats up AICN...... Why you no got tattoo??? Oh it sucks ass by the way. Shit stained turd scarfing mud lips of maximus ass suckage. I love Jackie, but damn that dudes head is way too big for his little body and it looks worse when they try to play him in full frame dressed up like the K-man. If they do tricks to make him taller than his prey it will look retarded. I don't like this version of Freddy at all. The voice the makeup (which looks like overkill and too build up vs taken away- should have used CGI like the dark knight) and last well that arc welder sparkle magic glove fx crap is so fucking dumb. No music either, Anyways, I hope you all post it soon in it's own thread so I can bitch there. Freddy got ass raped. Jackie goes from Chicago/Boston hybird accent to a nazi'sh like accent when he becomes Freddy. Correction: Jackies voice sounds just like Edgar from Men in Black when he turns burnt nightmare Freddy. This movie is gonna suck so bad.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    re: Spazatronik2000

    by VoteRoslin08

    i love you for that post.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Dirk_The_Amoeba

    by philosophers

    No. You are no Conspiracy. Stop writing now. Go work at McDonalds. Thanks.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    this ones in 3d right

    by ThePilgrim

    it's in 3d, come on now, thats why it was a 5 hour meeting with ilm, because 3d is hard, pffttttt...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Are they still remaking 'Rocky Horror Picture'?...

    by cheyne_stoking_DMS

    why not have shitpants produce it?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Why are people Writing to JettL93 Like he's Real

    by Mr_Satan

    He's a troll douche. I mean come on. No one likes Bay. Not Tyrese, who's got to eat by the way or La Boufett or anyone. And his movies are over blown goofy-ness, and shit hacked out by someone who's smoked to much Crack. And people quit saying Transormers The Movie was good. I own it and it sucks. The soundtrack does not holed up and the dialogue was terrible. Not to mention RODIMUS PRIME. Fucking crap.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Why are people Writing to JettL93 Like he's Real

    by Mr_Satan

    He's a troll douche. I mean come on. No one likes Bay. Not Tyrese, who's got to eat by the way or La Boufett or anyone. And his movies are over blown goofy-ness, and shit hacked out by someone who's smoked to much Crack. And people quit saying Transormers The Movie was good. I own it and it sucks. The soundtrack does not holed up and the dialogue was terrible. Not to mention RODIMUS PRIME. Fucking crap.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    If a film has to talk to Hasbro

    by executiverocker

    Then that is a no in my book

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye, since you prefer Ang Lee's Hulk..

    by ganymede3010

    I'm going to consider you my friend. His version is far superior to Loser Lettier's. I really liked the Watchmen DC also, so we have similar tastes. But Asimov always lectures us how stupid we are for like Star Trek all while defending the TPM.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    philosopher

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    Do I come down to your job and take the mop out of your hands and tell you to go home? <p> Why you gotta be hatin? I know aint no writer, but you aint no philospher either. <p>Vive et vivere sine.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Amazing Maurice

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    I know man... I know. Money talks, right? <P> I should apologize as well. Yeah, I payed to see TF2. I went with a couple friends on a slow night and now you and everyone on here knows that money left my wallet and went into Bay's. <P> Seriously... I'm sorry for what I did and the shame of it keeps me up at night. <P> You hit the nail right on the head, for sure. I too thought there was no way it could have ever turned out that bad. I left the theater that day with a new sense of just how shitty a movie can truly be. <P> The moment Shia's mom tackled the Frisbee player I felt my heart and expectations completely shrivel up and die. I remember a hot flash coming over me and cold sweat on my forehead, and I suddenly realized that the shots of dogs fucking were Bay's subtle way of saying "Fuck You, assholes. You PAYED to see THIS" <P> sigh... fuck michael bay

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    ASIMOVLIVES = MEGAN FOX!

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay movies are equivalent to Fast Food.

    by ganymede3010

    Eventhough you know it's bad for you it's just to damn tasty to put down. Ofcourse I'll pay to see TF3. Excuse me if I want to attend my favorite franchise's funeral in person.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    when did you join the dark side gany

    by Phategod2

    I thought you loved Bay and you were hoping He'd direct that Macross movie you wanted so much.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Why? Dear God, Why?

    by DarkDeathAngel

    for fucks sake, not again. TF2 made my brain ache for a month after watching Bay once again violate my fond childhood memories. I now pray for his destruction.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    BAYSPLOISONS!

    by Deathpool

    BLAHALMODHAALMASPLOIONS!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    I skipped Revenge of the Fallen.

    by johndillingers20inchseveredcock

    Maybe this one will just be one big 2 1/2 hour explosion.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but when does Go-Bots: The Movie finally get made?

    by Jamie McBain

    Seriously, from what I hear, it couldn't worse than Revenge of The Fallen.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Oops, I meant TMP!

    by MediaGold

    As in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, not TPM as in The Prequel Mess. Anyone who loves a spoonful of that is on their own. Not that anyone should or would care for this dork's opinion.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Oops, I meant TMP!

    by MediaGold

    As in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, not TPM as in The Prequel Mess. Anyone who loves a spoonful of that is on their own. Not that anyone should or would care for this dork's opinion.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    FamousEccles

    by NoHubris

    With the "great story" comment, Bay seems to be placing this one in a totally separate league than the other two, like it's something fresh and on another level.<p>What I'm saying that after all this time in the industry, if he says "great story" then he should really have something.<p>From one great mind TBer to another, it would be very gratifying if that's the case.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    is it easier?

    by Ryanbraun14

    is it easier to watch all these michael bay movies, complain about stuff you weren't expecting to be in his movies anyways, and then come to an internet site to bash how much of a hack he is? He makes eyeball candy movies, and he makes a shitload of money. He's successful and his movies continue to make tons of money. He knows what puts asses in seats, and you guys would kill to be him, make the movies he maktes, and be as successful in the industry as him. Guy knows what sells and I'd rather make his movies and be a success instead of an indy film maker who struggles for years and never goes anywhere. Does that mean I would want to be a film maker for the wrong reasons? no. if i wanted to be a film maker, it would be to entertain as many people as I could. That's what bay does.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Bay knows how to treat girls like Fox

    by knowthyself

    Treat them like shit. They hate themselves and will come back for more every time.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Wavingflags

    by Adelai Niska

    Optimus lays down for a while and then gets up again. Sorry for any spoilers.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    I'm still surprised...

    by BizarroJerry

    I mean, how did the writing team who co-created Fringe come up with TF2? I mean, even if you hate Fringe, it at least has some semblance of intelligence and wit. And the new Trek, too? Worries me that the guy who ISN'T them is now writing it...

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    CONSPIRACY, you are welcome in VAHALLA.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    That was great, I should digitally preserve that bit of storytelling.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    When BAY is under JERRYS boot, he does good work.

    by Pixelsmack

    Bad Boys, The Rock, Armageddon.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Hey Kobe

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    Thanks

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    I say BRING EM ON

    by D.Vader

    Yahoo.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay neeeds to man up!!

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Acting like a highschool girl with those comments about Fox, she is a spoilt brat, true, but you don't need to act like one.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    If it's 2-hours of Prime kick ass, then yes.

    by Onin Solstice

    Otherwise forget it, It will be a Shia fest with Fox coasting thru a career with no acting talent. Good luck in your 30's Fox, Father Time's a comin' and Hell's coming with him!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Is anyone optomistic about this ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    I think with the an edit TF2 could have gone from bad/average to ok/good. By edit I mean get rid of Skids and Mudflap and a lot of the college crap. <p> The Optimus fight in the forest is still the highlight of the movie and if they could look at why that was right, then we could get an ok movie.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I got banned twice

    by D.Vader

    Just thought I'd add my two cents to a previous conversation.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    I'm optimistic, Miyamoto

    by D.Vader

    Even if the best we get is another Optimus Forest Fight.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    just catching up on this tb - conspiracy brilliant as always

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    That guy knows how to write <p> Dakota Fanning, is definetely going to be part of these jokes for a little while, looking hot and dangerous (at 15). <p> I can imagibe Bay having a thing for underage girls as well, that I am sure involved cocaine on and in them. Orci its more underage boys.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    JettL whoever is doing this character great work

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    seriously staying in character as someone so delusional, are you the same person that does Media Messiah, or if you feel like being a geek retard you become Diox ? <p> Still convinced its someone that works in AICN having a laugh, but whoever it is good writing.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Anybody catch the 5-minute 2012 preview tonight...

    by PennsyDeux

    Makes Independence Day look like a training film, VFX-wise. Nobody can blow shit up better than Roland Emmerich.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    I've never been banned

    by Meadowe

    WHITE POWER!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST

    brian austin green as Bumblebee

    by Meadowe

    I watched snl and tuned out a lot, I didn't see a digital short with megan's fave penis in it until a few days later, I only saw a digital short with some tard rejecting megan fox's marriage proposal. Did the west coast edit the digital shorts too because of the f-bomb dropped by Slate? Or did I just miss it when I was busy getting ready to go out?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay! Oh, piss.

    by FrankGarrett

    Michael Bay, you son of a bitch you. I'm gettin' tired of your shit. Can't you take a hint, we don't wanna watch your movies anymore, you stupid cock sucker. By the way, does your mom still have, uhh, worms crawlin' out her pussy?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Isn't this the OPPOSITE of good news?

    by deucefilms

    Transformers 2 was turned around in 2 years and the obvious casualty of that move was the script. Even though I haven't seen the film (a lot of us only have to hear that a movie is terrible so many times before we decide it's best to just save our time and money), I feel pretty safe saying that the script/story was pathetic. You can rush almost any aspect of the filmmaking process, but the element you probably need to be the most careful with rushing is the screenwriting process. Paramount knows they can rake in hundreds of millions of $$$ regardless of whether or not the script is a complete piece of shit (and they could probably care less about the fact that the movie would've probably grossed another $150 million had they just invested a little more in the screenplay... how much profit do you think they missed out on due to negative word-of-mouth and lack of repeat viewings?). I had hoped that, if they were going to shoot for 2012, maybe someone at Paramount realized that a decent script could've taken them from great profit to astronomical profit. And maybe, this time around, they would've taken that extra time to polish up a solid script. 2011 release date tells me they're saying, "fuck the script! We could have 150 minutes of Optimus Prime taking a shit in the Grand Canyon and this bitch is still going to pull in $300m domestic and $500m international!" Ensuring that the film is as big a piece of garbage as Transformers 2 is worth it to them in exchange for seeing that cash come in one year sooner. I wish I could say that, if they pulled the same bullshit with Transformers 3 that they did with Transformers 2, then people wouldn't see it. But the fact is a lot of the people commenting on this page probably paid to see this abomination in the theaters despite the fact that they walked into it KNOWING it was gonna suck cock. And then they have the nerve to turn around and blog about how terrible the film was. I don't know what's worse, Paramount for making a shitty film, or the bloggers who rant about the movie being a piece of crap when that's exactly what they were expecting! So, actually, you know what? Fuck it. I'm changing my stance on this. Go ahead Paramount, please churn our your next cinematic Hasbro abortion as quickly as possible and hit all the retarded moviegoing public in their wallets if they're stupid enough to pay to see something they know will just piss them off. It's a smart move by your folks at Paramount to crank this movie out a year earlier, because there's a pretty strong risk that millions of the morons you're expecting to shell out money for your next shitfest will probably die during that extra 12 months from sticking their tongues into light sockets or accidentally chugging detergent.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    LETTERMAN HAS A BEER AND CHEATS ON HIS WIFE!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Holy shit lockes

    by D.Vader

    I didn't think you were old enough to remember that old joke.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Hey, I know my AICN.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    APRIL MARIE EDEN AS THE NEW HOTCHIQ FOR TF3

    by Meadowe

    Just saw her on Parks and Recreation. She's very beautiful, and according to imdb she was just in CRANK 2 as a STUNT PERFORMER and not even credited as an actress or an extra. It also said in her bio that she supposedly owns every STAR TREK AND BATTLESTAR GALACTICA episode ever made. So not only is she ridiqulously hot she can do stunts and seems to have a "nerd" side. Just a suggestion.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    the drama llama spits again.

    by virgin_eyeballs

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST

    @deucefilms

    by virgin_eyeballs

    Keep it up, brother!! Refine the run on sentence, keep finding new uses for homonyms, ignore simple things like paragraph breaks, and you just might find yourself with a full-time writing (or should I say righting) gig at AICN!!

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Oh the irony...

    by Bootskin

    Jettl can barely form a sentence...perhaps he really does work on the Transformer's production team?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Bootskin

    by virgin_eyeballs

    if that's the criteria, then we've got the entire crew right here.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:42 p.m. CST

    If Bay was german...

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    he would be Uwe Boll. Yet he's somehow allowed to make movies with some of the biggest names in Hollywood. Food for thought.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:46 p.m. CST

    re AsimovLives

    by DocPazuzu

    Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that this guy, who bends over backwards in contorted, orwellian doublespeak in order to "prove" that Star Trek is the least financially successful movie of the series (despite making shitloads more than all the previous installments), then goes on to say that anyone who mentions B.O. as a measure of success is more or less retarded scum?

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Carl XVI Gustaf

    by DocPazuzu

    Uwe's famous for getting sloppy seconds. Shia will be in a Dr. Boll opus within ten years, I promise.

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Nobody's gay for bay here. Were all polin for Nolan.

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST

    D Vader - optomistic

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Just pretending we are in a paralel universe where somewhere who cares about characters and story are in charge of TF3, what would you want to see? <p>

  • Oct. 1, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST

    No.

    by Non-American

    no no nonononono No NO NO NO NOFUCKINGNO NO NO!!!!!! SOMEONE TELL ME HOW THIS STUPID TALENTLESS HACK/DICK KEEP GETTING WORK?????? CAN'T WE TURN HARLAN ELLISON LOOSE ON HIM OR SOMETHING???

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST

    you guys like STAR TREK more than TF2??????

    by MrHyde

    numb tongue? fat hands???? that GOOFY opening scene with the "antique" car? the hammy hammy villain? the absurd coincidences of character running into each other? the absolutely cringe worthy "humor"? scotty anyone? i DARE a site regulator to actually give me an intelligent film lovers opinion on why one of these movies was better than the other. and for every sling you throw at transformers i can toss 2 back at star trek. and i'm not even a transformers fan. just a hypocrisy regulator.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST

    TF2 made a truck load of money, Bay will get more work

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    its that simple, the studio's aren't about art they are about making money. <p> I am waiting for Explosion the Movie by Michael Bay, 50 minutes of non-stop explosions, which will be popular but not nearly as popular as Star Wars: White Screem, the Star Wars logo followed by 2 hours of a plain white screen, with no sound.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST

    at least Trek aint racist

    by Phategod2

    Less you have bone to pick with Horny green chicks.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST

    My Hyde

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Go to rottentomatoes.com and looking at the reviews for both from a large number of professional reviewers (look at cream of the crop). Don't just look at one, look at lots, and if you still don't get it then just join Asi's club.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    re Asimovlives again

    by DocPazuzu

    Well, let's look at the odds shall we? <p> There are somewhere between ten and eleven million people in Portugal. Is it reasonable to assume that: <p> 1) If exposed to online movie forums, they will all post uncontrollable, hate-boner stroking rants about their hatred for Michael Bay and JJ Abrams? <p> 2) Use a mean-spirited and inordinate amount of homophobic language in their posts? <p> 3) Wax lyrical about Christopher Nolan, South Korean cinema and Blade Runner? <p> 4) Claim to be hard core SF fans? <p> 5) Occasionally write awkward and slightly creepy posts regarding females in the world of cinema, posts which reeked of either a poorly concealed asexuality or a profound unfamiliarity with the opposite sex? <p> 6) Display a penchant for enthusiastically writing figurative idiomatic checks in English, the necessary funds of which were severely lacking in their linguistic accounts? <p> 7) Prove utterly incapable of understanding the concept and usage of irony while at the same time poo-pooing all non-British English-speakers for their poor grasp of the language, while at the same time enraging Brits with their supposed understanding of particularly British expressions? <p> Or is it possible, just possible, that the "three" Portuguese fellows (BladeRunnerUnit, Memories-of-Murder and AsimovLives) who have so profusely posted here over the past six or seven years displaying all the above characteristics (each one appearing shortly after the previous one was banned) are, in fact, one and the same tool? <p> Here's the thing, AsimovLives: nobody gives a shit that you were banned before except you, since it offends your pride for some reason to have been banned for ranting on a film geek board. Even BringingSexyBack finally admitted to being brokebackcowboy. Your denial, however, is tantamount to calling all of us stupid since you seem to think your brilliant disguise is far too clever a ruse for us to expose. It's insulting, which is why some of us won't let it go. Thing is, we actually DON'T GIVE A SHIT who you are or were. I promise you nobody would even bring it up again if you admitted it.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Star trek makes transformers 2 look like mac and me

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    Oh wait nevermind Transformers 2 is just as bad as mac and me, gigli, ballistic ecks vs sever, any alleged spoof "movie" of the past 6 years, the butler, final battle and dancing scenes in spiderman 3, batman and robin, jaws 4, and a giant blood covered tampon after a woman has a mucus discharge

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Funny how people with long ass screen names

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Hate fucking everything.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:45 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    God I hope you're right! LeBöff would be perfect in A Boll Movie.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    why is Star Trek > TF2?

    by Spazatronik2000

    Are you serious?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Egads! This Talkback is nuts.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Question: What do you get when you post a Michael Bay and J.J. Abrams story on the same day and let AsimovLives run rampant?<P>Answer: Web hits!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:02 a.m. CST

    TF3 needs Mike Myers (Meyers, Meijers, Mayors)

    by YackBacker

    And it needs to be in 3-D. That would be a sufficient amount of AWESOME, right, Mr. Bay?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:03 a.m. CST

    bf took me to see tf2/why I think STAR TREK>TF

    by Meadowe

    I remember seeing Megatron transform into something that was on the ground. I was like wtf is that? Then I remembered there were concept drawings releaed showing megatron as a "tank." Or what passes as a tank in a baybot film. That's why STAR TREK > TF imo. You can at least tell who's who, I'd rather listen to Beastie Boys and the little boy from Orphan playing young Kirk (even though it admittedly felt a *little* out of place in a treq film) than swallowing park for the 2nd film in a row, I actually felt sad when Winona didn't make it instead of being disappointed when shia survived, I felt good seeing Nimoy again instead of sorry for Peter Cullen being associated with a big pile of shit, I thought it was cool when I looked up Scarlet from GI Joe and found out she was the green chiq with Kirk, I thought it was badass seeing young Spock kick vulcan ass because the full blodded vulcans were picking on him because he was half human (reminds me of my youth as a mixed race kid myself snif snif) as opposed to smegma wickwussy telling his badazz camaro to go home and pussying out when jocks threaten him, I thought it was cool seeing Kirk's dad George Kirk and thinking yeah he can be Thor instead of seeing Optimus' ancestors and thinking yeah I don't need to see u mofos ever again. Bottom line time will not be kind on these movies. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on what you feel) Megan Fox may go down with this franchise too, and I think she's ok she just needs to be in better films

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST

    I hope Bay makes many many more...

    by LastOfTheV8Interceptors

    .. of these. These franchises are like high dollar babysitters for hacks. Give McG, Ratner and Sommers each a 10 movie franchise deal while you're at it. I, for one, will sleep much better at night knowing the rest of the film world will be safe.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    GODS BLESS BAY!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    And Gods bless moviegoers that saw TF 2 and not Harry Potter.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Bay, McG, Ratner and Sommers

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    geez they should be the A-Team!!!<p> Sommers as Hannibal, Ratner as Murdoch, McG as Face and Bay as BA.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Like almost everybody here

    by MorganLeafy

    I'm not a big fan of Asimovlives. However he's completely right about Michael Bay. Has anybody seen BB2? I thought it might be fun, but I felt genuine discomfort several days afterwards.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Hahahaha that guy saw transformers 2 five times!!!

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    What a shit faced moron!!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST

    The question the studios (mostly FOX) are asking themself

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    If they hired someone with actual creative talent and skill will the box office be much more than what these hacks offer, and will these creative people bend over and take it like the A-Team ? <p> The first question is definetely debateable, but not the second, thats why these guys keep getting hired. <p> Clearly Cameron has cred from Titanic still to get FOX in bed for Avatar.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    starwarrior is clearly a troll

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    but thanks for the entertainment, keep it up

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Watching TF2 5 times in the theater...

    by MediaGold

    Is that something you want to admit to publicly?? Any other humiliating things you'd like to share, like that time you forgot your bag lunch in 9th grade and your mom brought it to you when the school was doing the state AIMS test in the auditorium and totally destroyed what little self-confidence you had left? Oh shit, that was me! But really, 5 times??? I could barely sit through that monstrosity once (yes, I paid to see this astrotrain wreck, please stone me to death with stale cinema hot dogs now), I can't imagine a reasonable human being deliberately going to experience this horribleness 5 times! Five???? Good god, kid! Wash your eyes out with rubbing alcohol, you hoodlum!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Megan Fox is Brian Austin Green's Cum Receptacle!

    by BigTuna

    How sad is that?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Fox had no right to bash Bay!

    by BigTuna

    I know people hate Bay here, but who the fuck does Fox think she is? Bay grabbed her from nowhere and made her a massive star and gave her millions. Sure she's hot, but so is thousands of other hot wannabees waiting to be discovered. Fuck her. She's less appreciative than Katherine Heigl!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:46 a.m. CST

    People can sit through every tedious Harry Potter

    by lockesbrokenleg

    movie and rave about it for days. Me, I find them overbearing pieces of ass.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:08 a.m. CST

    hereeeee we goooooo, here we go again!

    by The Amazing G

    prepare for daily stories on it each with a million posts in the talkback

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:10 a.m. CST

    and I'm probably going to ignore each one...

    by The Amazing G

    starting with this one

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:39 a.m. CST

    He nailed his customers alright...

    by LastOfTheV8Interceptors

    .. right in the ass, with no lube either. Very inconsiderate indeed.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:53 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay doesn't target the action-junks

    by MorganLeafy

    but rather the brain-dead.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay says its a great story...

    by MatDGZ

    Only, Michael Bay wouldn't know a 'good story' if it jumped up and punched him in the eye. Or, he'll take a good story, apply the 'fuck the characters, where the 'splotions at' cream and Transformers or Transformers 2... again... These films are BAD. They're more like the contents of a horny 15 year old's wank bank... McG and Bay should fuck and have mediocre children.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Pleeeease, Mr. Bay, smarten it up just a little.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:47 a.m. CST

    when Michael Bay says great story

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    it means "huge paycheck", sadly Harrison Ford is the same now a days.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:02 a.m. CST

    How much of ROTF was Kruger's?

    by Monkey_King

    Kruger is a great screenwriter, but I'm very curious how much of his script got jettisoned when muddied up by the two knuckleheads who wrote TRANSFORMERS 1?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:09 a.m. CST

    Transformers 2 is way better than the 1st one

    by estacado1

    I hated the first Transformers movie. The reason I hated it was because I had very high expectations for the movie. Being a fan of the cartoon series, I expected it to have a somewhat serious tone and a coherent story. The movie could have been so much better in the right hands. I couldn't understand at that time why anyone would enjoy this crappy excuse of a movie. The first movie also lowered my expectations for the sequel, and the all round bad reviews that the second movie got when it was released in theaters didn't help either.<br> And after watching Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen on DVD, I am surprised to say that I enjoyed the movie a lot. The silly jokes somehow worked for me this time, and the nonsensical story actually made sense to me (at the time i was watching it). Now it's the opposite, I can't understand why people hate this movie so passionately. It's not the greatest movie of all time, but it's a summer action movie that delivers what it advertises.<br> If you are going to watch this movie at home, make sure you watch it in HD. One regret I had while watching the movie was not getting the Blu-ray version of it. The DVD version just isn't comparable to the Blu-ray version I saw a little of. This movie is made to be watched in HD. The action and and special effects are what I enjoyed most about the movie and it needs to be seen in all its HD glory to truly appreciate it.<br> They have toned down the use of the "shaky cam" technique compared to the first movie and as a result, the action was more discernible this time. You actually know who's fighting whom most of the time and which limb they are using to beat each other up. Plus, the use of slow motion for "cool" action set pieces helped too.<br> My advice for anybody that's going to watch Transformers 2 is to turn off your brain, get in mood to see lots of explosions and huge robots fighting each other with some juvenile jokes sprinkled in between. You'll be rewarded with two and a half hours of pure unadulterated fun.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:15 a.m. CST

    I agree, those Harry Potter movies are unwatchable

    by BigTuna

    Holy fuck. They get more boring and convoluted as the series goes on.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Mr Nicholas

    by AsimovLives

    Michael Bay smarting up would be going from the level of a virus to the level of an amoeba. Which, for his standards, is a pretty big jump.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay single-handedly destroyed action movies

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:24 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:29 a.m. CST

    No, AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    ....fuck YOU.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:49 a.m. CST

    ganymede3010, you are such a lying fuck. All Gays for Bay are

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Transformers is shite

    by Brian_Damage

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 5:08 a.m. CST

    Bay and Fox deserve each other

    by ol' painless

    Two pea-brained egomaniacs creating a perfect storm of stupid-assedness, a vortex of dumb from which nothing will escape.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 5:24 a.m. CST

    evidence of racism?

    by awardgiver

    the names Mudflaps and skids. Derogatory names like those are not given to 'wiggers'. The intent is clear, and anyone thinking otherwise has their head up Michael Bay's coke farting rectum. And now another CRAPTACULAR sequel? Stupid people need entertainment too, I guess, to keep them busy. And those drug cartels gotta stay in business somehow.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 5:33 a.m. CST

    can this trilogy even be salvaged at this point?

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    Those two ebonics 'twin's, a supposed new villain that was less impressive than Megatron, shit loads of little transformers that weren't needed, a Medusa-like woman Decepticon, Prime dying and then not, a tiny amount of Autobots and a seemingly endless cast of cahracterless Decepticons....did I leave out anything else that was shit?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Mammaries of Mommy LOVES Abrams Trek.

    by Sal_Bando

    And, as Noted_Sage Jarv-Jarv saithe-and I quothe-he Loves EVEN More Aliens Vs. Predators! <p> However, in Case the PaZoozoo didn't Quite remember, Another way to tell that Our Friend from Oporto is Still amongst us here---he has the Iberian Peninsula's largest collection of Goat movies. Yessir. The Emir of the Ibex, starring in movies he directed hisself! And a goat. Always a goat.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 5:57 a.m. CST

    I disagree about Bay being a racist

    by ominus

    The guy uses stereotypes who are promoted by the rest of the big entertainment industry (music,cinema,tv shows etc).The first example of this is MTV,and the whole rnb,gangsta,rap,hiphop style of life that is being represented from the same black artists. <p>When i watch MTV and i only see black people shouting how cool they are,and how many bitches they have,how money they own and how they kill each other,i am sorry but Bay is not the problem. <p>I understand that the black community dooes have its own way of life and thinking,their own kind of 'language' and code of behaviour,but when Hollywood and the music industry promote ONLY the personal trademarks of ie Will Smith or 50c ,because the black and white community do love these kind of 'black' characteristics,then its not unexpected that they become the sole stereotypical representers of the black community.In other words,its because of the whole entertainment industry that young kids have the assumption that all the black people talk and act like Will Smith,or 50c or that all the black people listen rnb or rap or whatever. <p>I for once i would love to have a black protagonist in a movie,where he is intelligent,he speaks without that trademark black slang,he doesnt try all the time to show how cool he is,or how he prefers black booty babes than skinny white chicks.A normal black man who does not belong to the black (or asian,or arabian etc) stereotype. <p>Remember the yesterday news about the new Predator movie.They are using again multiculture stereotypes,because Hollywood thinks that the audience always expects the black guy to be talk funny and be badass,the chinese to know kungfu,the japanese to use katana,the white guy to beat the monster and fuck the girl,etc etc <p>Bay is just another gear of this whole industry,he is just doing his job.He gives to the average audience,what the audience wants.thast all.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:19 a.m. CST

    No One In Their Right Mind...

    by Drsambeckett1984

    Is Looking forward to this, the first film is mindless fun but the sequel was a whole new level of bad, Fallen made Crystal Skull look like a classic! <P> And I love Abrams Trek!!!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST

    oh please

    by anomagnus

    Stop the racism BULLSHIT, when this site heaped praise on GI Joe. Oh hey mr black guy, you want to be joe? Well guess what you dumb fucker, you can only get in based on the white guys super high scores!! And that ISN'T fucking racist? There was fuck all racism in it, people just decided to rip on the film, cause its an internet cause ot hate bay. Guess what fuckwads, no one outside this communtiy gives a shit what you think of bay, and was proven by the box office returns. Harry fucked his review of tf2, by trying to be something other than he is, tried to reverse it with GI JOE, which had all the same issues he lambasted TF2 for, and still he fucked it up. Tell you what fuck harry up his fucking ass

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Kruger will get a story by credit

    by moviemaniac-7

    It will be re-written around the "awesome" action scenes Bay already has in mind and will be the same soulless piece of entertainment like the other movies he has made (notable exception; The Rock, which remains his best).

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:42 a.m. CST

    hot damn! a movie to look forward to

    by j2talk

    seriously, what else is on the horizon? Besides, with what we've seen with the first 2 how bad could it be? And of course, you know Bay is going to try and one up the SFX in Roland Emmerich's 2012 so that should be something to look forward to......

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:42 a.m. CST

    hot damn! a movie to look forward to

    by j2talk

    seriously, what else is on the horizon? Besides, with what we've seen with the first 2 how bad could it be? And of course, you know Bay is going to try and one up the SFX in Roland Emmerich's 2012 so that should be something to look forward to......

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Have to stop Bay!

    by Dazzler69

    A 3rd piece of crap? There must be a way to make him tell a better story!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST

    I liked both Movies

    by BetaSword

    Even tough, I do register some of the Errors of RotF. Like the First-Movie's Showdown being said in RotF to have occurred in LA instead of Mission-City(in my Opinion, the most irritating Error).

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Sal_Bando, i have wanted to ask you

    by AsimovLives

    quite some question for you to defend soem of the studipiest bulslhit in Jar Jar Abrams's Shit trek. But i'll leave that until a new talkback about that subject. Which means it is going to pop up next week, most certainly, since AICN is the world's greatest Abrams/Oci cum receptable.<br><br>But now it's Bay time!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:10 a.m. CST

    "how could someone admitt they watched this 5 times?"

    by 2007

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:11 a.m. CST

    "how could someone admitt they watched this 5 times?"

    by 2007

    cause they don't care about how cool they look to you online fannies ain't it cool used to be about that, now it's a fanboy mob. TF2 has a good story, with a very poor script.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:11 a.m. CST

    It's The Gay For Bay Pride Parade!

    by AsimovLives

    I see a lot of Gays For Bay in here. AICN is their San Francisco.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:12 a.m. CST

    "If you go to San Francisco...

    by AsimovLives

    ... don't forget to shove a Michael Bay up your ass...."

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST

    The first Transformers movie was already retarded beyond belief

    by AsimovLives

    One of my favorite stupidities in TF1 was when the movie decided to feel the need to point out in subtitles in two different sceens that it was "Qatar" when both scenes had the same characters and was set both in a sand desert. Like, as if audiences could not had guessed that on their own. This is a testement of the respect that Bay has for the audience's intelligence. He truly believes everybody is a moron. Well, no, Mr Bay, not everybody is a moron, only your fans and the idiots who love your movies.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST

    2007

    by AsimovLives

    It's not a question of cool, it's a question of basic self-respect. and you don't get to be in the cool by admiting to love and watch 5 times one of the most horrible and retard and audience insulting movie ever made in the whole history of cinema. He migth as well put on a panel writen on it "i'm a clueless moron" and walk the streets showing it to the population at large. It's nothing to be with cool, it's to do with BASIC HUMAN COMMON SENSE.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST

    It's Michael Gay Ass Bay Time!! With added retardness!

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Transformers 3! GREAT...

    by Bruce Leroy

    ...More retarded, crappy ass movies. Revenge of the fallen wasn't a movie it was an insult...sort of like the Mummy Returns was. Only a lot worse. A Whole lot worse.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:28 a.m. CST

    hey Asimov, whats up dude? Having fun argu

    by southafricanguy

    ing about TF2? lol....do we really need to bother pointing out how bad it was?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST

    You know what's going to happen now, AssLives...

    by DocPazuzu

    You're going to rant yourself into a new banning (if the rabid homophobia doesn't get you banned first). And then guess what? A completely NEW Portuguese guy who has never posted here before will suddenly show up, claim to be new in town and will post endless rants on Abrams and Bay. <p> Portugal must have the most predictable, one-minded fucking population on the planet. Oh wait, no it doesn't -- it'll just be you again.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST

    come now docpazuzu and Asimov.....cant we

    by southafricanguy

    all, like, just get along? Are you two really going to keep arguing endlessly about Star trek? Look Asimov does nt like it, and thats his right, and Docpazuzu like it. How about you guys just agree to disagree?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8 a.m. CST

    Reasons why Bayformers 2 is a great movie!

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Lingering close up of Simmons hairy ass <P> Devastators balls clanging around <P> Leo getting tasered in the nuts <P> Midgets humor <P> Wheelie farting <P> Wheelie humping Megan Fox <P> Farting Appliancebots with penis weapons <P> BumblPee's butt cheeks <P> Male dogs humping not once but twice <P> Sam's mom getting high and tackling people <P> Megan Fox looking clean with perfect (porn star) makeup after being blow off a rooftop and rolling around on the ground.<P> Cussing ghetto thug stereotype robots in blackface <P> Stripper bot giving Sam a lap dance and tentacle rape <P> 3 bad stereotype comic relief Transformers who hog all the screen time <P> 10 different comic relief characters <P> Soundwave useless wasted never transforms little screen time <P> Devastator is only there to remove stones from pyramid, killed by twins and humans <P> The Fallen is underdeveloped appears out of nowhere at the end and dies easily with in 5 mins. <P> Cool Transformers and fan favorites get very little screen time and dialogue <P> Poorly shot, boring, soulless, action scenes: 1 sec of robots fighting cut 5 seconds of Shia screaming cut to 1 sec of robots fighting behind some trees.<P> Extreme close up transformations<P> Shaky cam ADHD editing<P> Panning 360 rotating sun flare camera shots with cheesy music every 5 minutes.<P> Bad story<P> Lazy plot<P> Horrible pacing<P> Terrible Linkin Park score<P> Tons of continuity errors<P> Dumb cringe inducing comedy<P> Vapid dialogue<P> A lot of Ad lib dialogue and dumb one liners<P> Blatant overacting<P> Terrible robot designs that are so incoherent and messy people can't tell who's who other than BB and Prime.<P> Insulting and boring<P> The whole movie take place during sunset<P> Considered the worst summer blockbuster ever made<P> Roger Ebert, other critics and movie sites insulted the fans of the movie due to how bad it was<P>

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Drsambeckett1984

    Leave Star Trek alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just you wait until there is a new ST talkback, we will have words.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Re Special Effects

    by Drsambeckett1984

    The fx in ROTF are terrible! There some shots that look like they escaped from the mid 90s. Revenge Of The Sith had better effects and that was released nearly 5 years ago!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Micheal Bay should write books...

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    "How I fucked up a franchise and still got paid"..... It would be a bestseller. <p> And... <p> "Yeah, I'm talking to you dumbfucks that supported me." would be the name of the sequel.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay's movies fucks the audiences in the ass

    by AsimovLives

    to the complete delight of the Gays For Bay.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    u forgot the USarmy worship in the movie

    by ominus

    the atrocious ending in the air carrier says it all.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Hey Asimov....where you been dude? You

    by southafricanguy

    stopped posting in our conversation over in the old talkback.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    ominus...

    by Pawprint

    Good, well thought out points. Which I fear will be lost on many here, anxious to label Bay's TF as racist.<p> No doubt that the two robots in TF2 are stupid stereotypes, but they are only reinforced by people in the public eye like 50 Cent and Kanye West. The robots may be stereotypes, but they are only reinforcing many walking stereotypes we see in the media<p> Let me ask a few general questions:<p> What ethnic grouping mostly wear 'grills' - Black or white?<p> Which ethnic grouping mostly speak 'gangsta' or 'jive'?<p> Would a film showing white rednecks talking like retarded yokels and being unable to read be labelled as racist?<p> If Bay is a racist, why did he release 2 'Bad Boys' films where the main characters - the good guys - and a lot of the supporting cast were black?<p> Why, in BB2, did Bay show the Klan to be complete arseholes, worthy only of our hatred if he's a racist? In fact, was his portrayal of the Klan members as sweaty, poorly educated and bigotted buffoons racist?<p> Have a think about that - those that can - the rest of you can just carry on screaming 'GAY FOR BAY' until your lungs bleed. Thankyou!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    "We have a great Transformers 3 story"

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    YOU DIDNT EVEN HAVE A GREAT STORY FOR THE OTHER 2 YOU MOTHERFUCKER!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Didn't they destroy an entire town in the first one?

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Yet the government was able to cover it up in TF2? <p> Every-time those kinda holes popped up in the new one I would scream "BAY LOGIC!" at the screen. <p> I screamed it a lot.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Roland Emmerich for the next Transformers Movie

    by Slippy

    Michael Bay should be done.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Bay does come across like a Cocaine snorting fucktool

    by Smashing

    Like a massive, massive twat, hey heads up Mr Bay, you plus Ehren Kruger equals shitty Transformer films, go take your huge bags of chang, yell at the cast and crew because you mistakenly believe thats how people act and make another mega disaster film, its your thing apparently.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    After the TF3 is released...

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    I heard they are going to take all the best scenes from all three movies and combined them into one Special Edition Commercial, in an attempt to sell Devestators' balls to excited Bayformist all over the world!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Hold Up! SOMEBODY SAW THIS SHIT 5 TIMES?!!!

    by bizarroAsimovlives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Sad but probably true bizarro.....

    by southafricanguy

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    I've come to a conclusion from reading this TB

    by Lost Jarv

    and I think AssholeLives actually has a massive unrequited boner for Bay- Seriously: <P>"I'll only watcha Bay movie again if by AsimovLives Oct 1st, 2009 12:15:19 PM <P> it's 2 and half hours of Bay getting fucked in this fucking ass." <P>What clearly happened was that a lonely little goatherd from the asshole of Europe saved up all the Escudo he'd earned from allowing strangers to put a finger in his bung-hole while he fellated his woolly tribe. <P>He then hopped traded in his asshole to horny sailors for passage across the Atlantic. <P>Once in America, he mooched in the bushes outside Bay's house furiously masturbating while watching Bay edit the first film. <P>What turned his love to hate, clearly, was that Bay saw him and set his dogs on him. Traumatised, rejected and a little bit savaged, his love turned to hate- the result of which you see above.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    and in case you think I've forgotten asshole,

    by Lost Jarv

    remind me again about how you booked a ticket in advance to see "Mr. Alien, Mr. Predator and lots and lots of Mr. and Mrs. Dead People"- a film so bad that it makes Transformers look like Raiders of the Lost Ark. <P>You hypocritical little cunt.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by MorganLeafy

    He laughs with the KKK so he must be some kind of left-winger? Remarkable reasoning you’ve got going on there. Surely you can’t deny his constant glorification of the army? The two heroes of BB2 might be black but that didn’t prevent him from still using them in the same old stereotypical situations. Have you noticed that he never laughs with the ridiculous machismo that so often appears in his movies? On a side note, why is there always such enormous polarization in America? I have noticed that it is just not done to say that you like ‘black’ popular culture on these boards. I really think that is also a kind of racism. I like some Kanye West songs and stuff he’s done with other artists. 50 Cent has some catchy songs too. He’s not very talented but does have a certain amount of charisma.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    BTW- Conspiracy wins the TB

    by Lost Jarv

    That heroin line was superb.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Hooray!

    by BASEMENT_CHEETOH_EATER

    2 and a half more years of listening to people fag out over this HORRID FUCKING FRANCHISE. Rapture! OH SWEET JOY! Michael Bay...let me gently massage your taint with my tongue...I do this because of all you give us...all the good you do the world. Sigh. Talentless cunt.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    ganymede3010

    by Stalkeye

    Wassup and a shout-out to ya..Yes, Movies like Hulk and watchmen are deemed an acquired taste. (Most may dismiss it and there are those that found something more than relevant within the films.)Asi may to some,come off as an elitist, but Iget for the most part of what he's talking about regarding these overpaid hack filmmakers.His posts are funny (especially the vitrolic comments towards orci,bay,etc.)and the guy can explain the semantics. i.e. when critiqing Star Trek.as opposed to some troll just saying 'this movie sucks" without explaining the hows and the whys.<p>It's cool to agree to disagree, but it's equally important to respect someone else's tastes as opposed to calling them names.otherwise, I might as well call one of my friends a retard for liking TF2. XD<p>You guys should either settle this diplomatically, or stay in your corners. Let's all play nice after all, it's muthafukin Friday!!<p>Peace

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Morganleafy

    by Pawprint

    Thanks for the response. I apologise but I'm not sure I understand a lot of your phrasing, so I'm not sure if you agree or disagree, but I will attempt to address your points.<p> I don't recall saying that Bay was a left-winger, so I'm unsure what you're driving at.<p> Yes, Bay has an erection for military hardware; your point? Is a love of the military racist? I don't understand.<p> His leads in the Bad Boy films may be stereotypes, but they are definately not negative ones - would Will Smith allow himself to be cast in a role where he appeared as a negative racial sterotype?<p> But this is my whole point - there is a difference between racism and stereotyping.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Bay Has Made One Good Movie

    by Drsambeckett1984

    Armaggeddon. Seriously, brings a tear to my eye every time! That film has power!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    Hey, pal. I did posted something in the old talkback yesterday, i believe. Check it out.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Drsambeckett1984

    by AsimovLives

    My point exactly, as i said in my post as reply to Sal_Whatever.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by MorganLeafy

    Friday afternoon, I'm not really focused I'm afraid. Anyway, to make it short: his love for the military, the stereotyping, it all indicates to a sort of rancid ideology which I certainly don't think like. Didn't our 'heroes' destroy a whole village at the end of BB2? Sorry, I just don't think that's funny.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Will Smith Has became a character of himself.....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    He's the same likeable guy in every movie. Like Samuel Jackson, resident angryman, Christopher Walken downright creepy every time out, even Denzel... <p> Great actor but when was the last time he played a character outside of his own personality traits? <p> Yeah I said it! <p> Not that it's anything wrong with that... You just know what to expect from these guys nowadays.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay has an action figure of himself...

    by AsimovLives

    ... so he can shove it up in his ass in complete autoerotic delight. While in his humongous TV screen plays in a loop a montage of all the explosions and racist jokes in all his movies.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Drsambeckett1984

    Why do you hate Abrams Trek so much?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    MorganLeafy...

    by Pawprint

    No problem. I understand what you're getting at now.<p> Whether you agree with Bay's ideology, or your perception of it, is of course, a personal matter, and I can't fault you for that.<p> As I have said previously, my point is that he shouldn't be labelled a racist. That's simply not correct.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Drsambeckett1984

    by Lost Jarv

    Because he's a hypocrite cunt with a nebulous and wholly unreasonable criteria for what makes a "good" movie. <P>I haven't seen Dork Trek, but his reaction makes me think that it's probably superb.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Please, Ain't It Cool News, stop reporting on Transformers!

    by Mr Gorilla

    Earlier this year, it seemed that every other day there was a new 'scoop' of a toy, or action figure, or piece of publicity, or photo, that gave a clue to something that would appear in TRANSFORMERS 2. But in the end, the film sucked balls. Knowing that T3 is going to suck balls too, can you please give us a break and STOP REPORTING ON TRANSFORMERS! 2011 will be the year of the final Harry Potter and the first Hobbit. Can you report on those instead? I'm serious about this. You are meant to me a site that cares about movies, not a site that studios use to publicize their crap.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by WavingFlagsInSpace

    I respect the fact that you have passion - there's sometimes to much timidity in the world - but venting homophobic spleen about a man you don't know, that you probably wouldn't say to his face (not because you're a pussy or anything, simply because people simply don't go up to strangers and yell, "STICK THAT DOLL UP YOUR ARSE YOU FUCKTARD!") and that really serves little purpose other than to offend, seems a waste of your energies.<p>Write something valid.<p>Write something insightful.<p>Use your passion for some other purpose than indirectly ranting against homosexuals. Otherwise you just sound...well, childish. And little children make a lot of noise but say very little.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by Lost Jarv

    I disagree. I thought Jazz in the first film (haven't seen the second) was a racist stereotype. <P>I get the distinction that you're making, but I honestly thought that could not have been any more of a lazy, offensive, obnoxious stereotype. <P>I don't think it was intentional- I think it was hamfisted.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    To whoever says: Wha'd you expect - Shakespeare?

    by Mr Gorilla

    I say: YES, I do expect Shakespeare. Shakespeare's plays appealed to the educated AND the uneducated alike. He played to the standing crowds who wanted thrilling entertainment, as well as the poshies who wanted enlightenment. He proved that it is possible to create great popular culture. So yes, when it comes to summer Blockbusters, we SHOULD be expecting something that is wildly thrilling, but that also gives us stuff to chew on.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    ominus

    by toadkillerdog

    I had a hard time trying to figure out of you were being serious or just joking. The line "When i watch MTV and i only see black people shouting how cool they are,and how many bitches they have..." <p> I mean if you are using MTV as a source of information about Blacks or any ethnic group for that matter, and thus excusing Bay's insensitivity toward Blacks because you saw the same thing on MTV, well son, I am not sure anything I could say will change your mind. <p> But I will try. In a nutshell, no race of peoples can be boiled down to what you see on a TV program, especially a music TV program geared at teens. <p>Bay's insensitivity and borderline racism came from not balancing the offensive stereotypes. In a movie where the heroes are white, and the only so-called positive portrayal of a black character is Tyrese, to then load such offensive stereotyped characters as the twins into the movie severed no purpose but to generate the lowest common denominator laughs possible. There was no balance. If all you show is a stereotype, then people who only know about a different race from what they see on MTV or in a action movie, might think 'yeah that's how most of them live and act and talk'. <p> And btw Will Smith does not portray a stereotyped 'black' character. he is an action star who quips. You know like Bruce Willis? And as for the positive black portrayals, hmm how about Morgan Freeman (well he is suspect now due to that granddaughter thing) or Denzel? <p> I suggest you learn more about blacks by turning off MTV. <p> BTW I do not mean to be critical of you, I think you were expressing an honest -albeit ill-informed opinion.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    tkd

    by Lost Jarv

    Put it much better than I did.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by WavingFlagsInSpace

    Only one short scene in any of Shakespeare's major tragedies appealed to the uneducated - the gatekeeper in Macbeth, the clown/musician in Othello, the gravediggers in Hamlet, etc., etc.<p>So, in five acts of art only one short section was dedicated to the masses. For most of the production they talked and threw food at each other, prefering the other entertainments available inside the theatre: whores, cock fighting and bear baiting.<p>All Bay has done is invert Shakespeare's principle and make five acts of mindless Bayhem designed to stop the drones from flicking popcorn at each other and getting handjobs from the sluts on the back row of the cinema and maybe one short section contains a moment of real art.<p>Actually, maybe not even that.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv...

    by Pawprint

    I agree Jazz and the 'twins' were incredibly ham-fisted, but as I have said, a lot of prominent Black Americans in the media reinforce these stereotypes, which doesn't help.<p> That said, given that the robots learn our language and culture from the media, you could interpret Jazz as a comment about MTV - after all, isn't he just an amalgam of the 'gangsta' rappers that we see rolling endlessly across MTV? But is Bay really that clever? Maybe; maybe not.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Hola Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    I have been laughing at your Asi posts!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    pawprint

    by toadkillerdog

    You might want to read what i just posted above to Ominus.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    I don't think he's that clever

    by Lost Jarv

    I think it was a monumentally ignorant and lazy character. Fuck's sake it couldn't have been any worse if Jazz started out as a white car and then painted his face black. <P>Glad you liked it TKD- I can't stand that animal molesting twat.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    TDK

    by Pawprint

    I did. And?<p> Do you disagree that there are Black Americans on MTV reinforcing negative stereotypes?<p> As I keep repeating; yes, the twins were stereotypes, but they weren't discriminated against in the film. The were on the 'good guy's' side, and none of the characters in the film treat them maliciously because they were 'black'.<p> And in the first film, doesn't the Autobot leader refer to the 'black' robot, Jazz, as his 'trusted Lieutenant'? Surely high praise in the context of the film?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Drsambeckett1984

    by AsimovLives

    The answer to that is for another talkback with the proper subject.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    I know you replied, but all I read was

    by Lost Jarv

    baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, (smears shit on self), baaaa, baaaaaa, baaaaa, AvP:Rectum is good, baaaaaa, baaaaa, baaaa

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    "The answer to that is for another talkback with the proper subj

    by Lost Jarv

    Since when has that ever stopped you? <P>Cunt.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    I think the REAL Problem is...

    by Pawprint

    That Bay included stereotypical characters in his film - which isn't a crime - but essentially wasted them.<p> If Jazz had a stronger role or been more central to the plot, it wouldn't have been an issue. Jazz (to a certain extent) and the twins were included as comic relief; unfortunately they just weren't fucking funny (unless you were a ten-year-old boy); if they'd been funny, then the stereotyping probably wouldn't raise as much criticism.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    WavingFlagsInSpace

    by AsimovLives

    You got me wrong, friend. I respect gays all over the world. I respect gays like Sir Ian McKellen, who who is open about who he is. He's a msart, learned, intleligent fellow, and i would be honoured to ever make his acquaintance. And i support all gays who make that his lifestyle, and i would help bash a baseball bat in the face of all the fucking right-winger fucks who want to deprise gays of their basic human rights, including marriage and adaption of children.<br><br>It's not homosexuals i have a problem with, it's fucking faggots like motherfucking Michael Fucking Pussy Ass Bay. There's a very big difference there. Compreendes?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Asi

    by ebonic_plague

    Would you be as cavalier with calling Bay a "N-word?" I don't think McKellan would approve of that kind of post, either. Do as thou wilt and talkback wild-west and all that, but you might want to think about it.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Miyamoto Musashi

    by D.Vader

    I dunno, that's a good question. I'm not sure what I want to see in this universe. I would like, however, to see more Transformer involvement. That doesn't mean more "action", I mean more introspection, more teamwork and camaraderie, more relationships between the actual bots.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    AND WHO THE HELL....

    by ebonic_plague

    ...IS THE JOHN HOLMES MUDDAFOCKA THAT STRETCHED OUT THE TB?! It's 2009, Harry, there's not a fix for this yet

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by AsimovLives

    If AICN stops reporting on Michael Piece Of Shit Bay and his shit movies, how can we have our fun? This place can get pretty dull sometimes. Bay makes terrible movies that suck the soul of of a person, but the trade-off is the oportunity for comedy and bash that it entrails. Talk about small mercies.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by AsimovLives

    If AICN stops reporting on Michael Piece Of Shit Bay and his shit movies, how can we have our fun? This place can get pretty dull sometimes. Bay makes terrible movies that suck the soul off of a person, but the trade-off is the oportunity for comedy and bash that it entrails. Talk about small mercies.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    by Lost Jarv

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Asimov...I saw it dude, but you did t really

    by southafricanguy

    respond to my questions...

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Uhhh, AsimovLives, no, it doesn't work like that

    by D.Vader

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    Add to yours my indignation as well. Who was the clever ass's idea to turn the talkbacks' text boxes into sparghetti?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by toadkillerdog

    The point I was trying to make is that you can not judge a race of peoples by what you see on TV. MTV's stereotyped portrayals of Blacks is the same thing as the 70's TV show Hee haw was to country music loving Whites. If that is all you knew about either group, then that is the conclusion you would draw. <p> The problem with Bay has nothing to do with wheher the characters in his movie were dicriminated against. Hell stepinfetchit and Rochester were not discriminated against. But that was the only portrayal - an offensive stereotype. Like I said, it was borderline racism (I do not think mike is a racist btw) because it had no balance of a truly positive Black hero - one who does not act like is straight from MTV rappers lifewhatever.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Asimove, and this is not an insult

    by Lost Jarv

    "It's not homosexuals i have a problem with, it's fucking faggots like motherfucking Michael Fucking Pussy Ass Bay"<P>Do you really not see what is wrong with that sentence- by using the term "Faggot" and "Pussy Ass" in a derogatory fashion you are being homophobic- you are using it as a lazily pejorative term. <P>This is just one of the reasons why people get at you.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Yeah, for all the crap the Twins get...

    by D.Vader

    The majority of my theater seemed to enjoy the Hell out of them. What does that tell you?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    Then i'll answer your questions. Stay tuned.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    Yes, it does work like that.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Is Michael Bay gay?

    by Gee Redbeard

    No really, did I miss something?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    It tells me that lots of people like LCD Trash

    by Lost Jarv

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, you are retarded like shit

    by AsimovLives

    Who loves AVP:R, bitch? god, you fucking beleive i would love that piec eof shit? who the fuck you think i am, you? Go fuck yourself, you retarded piece of shit. Liar and retard, what a fucking winning combination you got there, fuck ass!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Gee Redbeard

    by AsimovLives

    He's the worst in-the-closet case in whole of Hollywood. His movies are a testement to that.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Dickhead. I'm quoting you.

    by Lost Jarv

    Christ. <P>How stupid are you? It isn't that you now claim to not like it, it's that you were frothing at the crotch over it based on one shitty trailer. That's why you're a hypocrite and, frankly, a cunt.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Asimov -

    by Mr Gorilla

    Yeah, point taken - I agree, and I have just been laughing out loud at some of the very naughty insults on this page. More seriously, I read a review that described TF as not just a terrible movie, but a terrible movie with 'a rotten heart'. I.e, it's sexist, it's racist, it makes violence into a kind of pornography, it's totally not what 10-year-old kids should be seeing. We know Michael Bay is less than human, he never claimed to be more - but the guy I think should really be taken to task is Steven Fucking Spielberg. The guy makes Schindler's List and Amistad, then puts his name on this shit? That's like sitting through a really long boring sermon, then finding out that the priest is fucking your daughter. He should be fucking ashamed of himself.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    TDK

    by Pawprint

    We're approaching the same conclusion but from different tolerance levels.<p> If Jazz or the twins contributed in any way to the films, there would not be this problem. The problem is they were there as comic relief, but were just not funny. A sterotype is not necessarily a bad thing; Austin Powers, and Eddie Murphy's white Jewish cameo character in Coming to America, for example.<p> I disagree on one point, however - MTV does not stereotype Black Artists - they do that themselves.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    I like how when he gets upset his

    by Lost Jarv

    English totally collapses. Suppose it is fair enough considering it is his third language after goat and Portuguese.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    I don't think so, Asi

    by D.Vader

    As ebonic_plague said, its like using the N-word on somebody but claiming its not bc the person is black.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Gee Redbeard

    Oh so because his movies find poorly judged humour in gay relationships (like that bit in Bad Boys II where Martin Lawrence is going "it hurt going in" and the store owner over hears them and is shocked/disgusted) it's because he's a self hating gay. So therefore it's perfectly fine to call him faggot. Yeah, that makes sense.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    I don't buy into that PC bullshit.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Gee Redbeard

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed it does. It's all very terribly suspicious. Even if he wasn't gay (which he is), then it would still valid to call him a fuckijng faggot, for the stupid jabs at homosexuality that fucking hick does in his movies. It's all fitting to the fuck he is.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    You are an offensive cockbag

    by Lost Jarv

    Do you honestly not see anything wrong with that? and it isn't PC bullshit.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    It ISN'T valid

    by Lost Jarv

    to throw that term around in the way that you do. Christ, how do you not understand this?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    And I should add...

    by Mr Gorilla

    ...That I'm one of the few who enjoyed INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. I didn't hate Spielberg when I was watching that film - the guy still knows some moves! However, unlike most of the community here, I actually believe that much of the moral goodness in that film probably came from George Lucas, who seems to still believe in popular films as a potential force for good. Spielberg has two settings: 'educate through guilt' (Color Purple, Schindlers, etc) or 'entertain by any means necessary' (which often works out, but can go horribly wrong, as in War of the Worlds, which seemed to be doing its best to make the great American public fearful of attack by martians cough-cough muslims). Georgy-Porgy, for better or worse, tries to blend political and moral stuff into his blockbusters.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Asi, so you'd be okay calling someone the N-word?

    by D.Vader

    Is that what you're saying?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Gee Redbeard

    Actually I was being sarcastic. It doesn't really makes sense. Unless you think being gay is something to be ashamed of. And so calling someone a faggott will hurt them to their core. In which case, well, you're wrong. It won't. In fact all it does is make you look like a plum while the important issue (i.e. Michael Bay sucks and really is a bigot) is ignored.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by D.Vader

    I disagree with your sentiments that Spiels was trying to make us fearful of an attack by Muslims. That's just the prevailing current here in America. There's nothing in the film which implies anything about Muslims, unlike the scifi films of yore in which the Communist symbolism was pretty transparent, for the most part. I think what you see in War of the Worlds comes more from your own experience than what Spiels was trying to show us. Which in the end is what we want from any entertainer or artist, to allow us to see rather than to show.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Wait wait wait... hold on.

    by ebonic_plague

    Because Bay displays ostensibly homophobic/racist undertones in his movies, that makes it OKAY to hurl much more venomous racist/homophobic abuse back at him? Look, I'm all for hating on Bay-- I think MCMXXVIII is a misunderstood genius-- but this "two wrongs make a right" approach is pretty obviously hypocritical and more than a little repulsive. Don't interpret this as a personal attack, Asi; just think about it.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by AsimovLives

    It's the rotten heart at ALL of Michael Bay's movies that truly gets to me. It's one thing for a filmmaker to make a bad movie because he failed to achieve his goals, or because he is not talented enough. This is why i don't hate McG, even though i think he's a complete vaccum of talent as a filmmaker. But guys like McG are just fools. Michael Bay is something worst. Something far worst. He has a rotten heart to him and it reflects fully in his movies. He's beyond bad. He is, truly, the worst director i ever seen making movies, with only Jar Jar Abrams in second place in that kind of directors with rotten evil hearts. But Bay is still champion. Nobody is wost then him. He really is a fucking psychopath making movies.<br><br>As for spielberg, trust me, i'm terribly disapointe with the bag man myself as well. Not only that this guy decided to hire Bay to make movies under his name, but then he made that exacrable pissing on a movie legend called Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skullfuck. I still can't believe such a godawful shit came from him! It0's as if michael Bay infected him with his own untalented evilness, or some shit like that. It blows my mind!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by AsimovLives

    I'll think about it.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    And I too enjoy Crystal Skull

    by D.Vader

    *goes back into hiding*

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    I'll repost that from ebonic:

    by Lost Jarv

    "but this "two wrongs make a right" approach is pretty obviously hypocritical and more than a little repulsive."<P>Except do interpret this as an attack you hypocrite goat molesting twat. <P>PS- when is Spain finally going to turn that shithole you live in into one big landfill? And why do your women always look like they need to shave?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    And no insult is bad enough for Bay

    by AsimovLives

    He deserves to take every insult thrown at it... UP IN HIS FUCKING ASS!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Asimov thinks JJ Abrams has a rotten heart?

    by D.Vader

    Oh Brother...

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    Dude, no problem, man. Really, i don't blame you for liking it. I actually understand. It's the nostalgia. It's a power force for all us geeks. Makes us blind to the abuse that beloved franchises get with futher sequels from directors who stoped caring, or from hacks who later took charge. no, man, it's Spielberg i'm pissed at, not you. We are good.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    I have his latest movie to prove it. But again, this is not the time and place for that discussion. The time will came, and i'm sure, soon enough. This is AICN, after all.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Speilberg hasn't

    by Gee Redbeard

    made a decent movie in the past fifteen years. You know it's true.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    Gee Redbeard

    by AsimovLives

    Why i would think there's anything wrong with being gay? Who you think i am, Lost Jarv? no, man, you got it all wrong. There's nothing to be though as wrong about homosexuality. That's not the issue. The issue is the in-the-closet cased like Bay, who in his hypocrisy go for the anti-gay juvenile frat boy humour shit. Fuck him. It turn the tables on him. He gets to the the target of his own type of humour. It's fitting and it's justice served. Hell yeah!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Gee Redbeard

    by AsimovLives

    Munich. 'Nuff said. That movie is not only good, it's excelent.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Asimov..

    by Pawprint

    All your insults seem to be gay related - you seem especially fond of the idea of things going up Bay's arse. Latent homosexuality on your part?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Still have not seen KOTCS

    by rogueleader66

    Which is odd because I want to see it to see if it is the trainwreck most people say it is, plus I always love me some Harrison Ford, even if it is as an aging Indy. Will have to check it out soon just so I can join in the debates about it.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Mudskid and Flaps were not just making fun of black people...

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    They were representatives of what corporate America think today's youth sound and act like. That demographic includes Black, whites and all the colors of the rainbow. <p> Black kids aren't the only ones out here in 2009 saying yo and wearing Gold teeth, see Eminem and Paul Wall as proof. If anything they poked fun at B-Boys and the Hip-Hop Culture. The way they dress and the attitude. <p> I can accused Micheal Bay of making a shitty movie because he did. But to say the man is racist, that's stretching it a bit. <p> Gay on the other hand is a different story. Did I need to know that Devastator had balls?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Munich Asi? Munich?!?!

    by Gee Redbeard

    Really? I ate my shoe while watching that for a pleasent distraction. Also my point wasn't that you thought there was anything wrong with being gay, more that it would be easy for people to criticise you for it if you're shouting the word fag.. oh forget it. Bay sucks, on that we both agree.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    D. Vader re War of the Worlds

    by Mr Gorilla

    This IS an interesting one, and you won't be surprised to know that you're not the first to disagree with me! My thought was that ever since the horrible attack on the WTC, fear of further attack has been at the back of all our minds. Here in the UK, Tony Blair specifically worked that fear when he spoke in parliament before the Iraq war of 2003. He said that Iraq could bomb us in 45 mins. This all turned out to be either a lie or bad information. The point is, that government was using our fear of attack to give it free reign to attack other countries. In this light, is it responsible to make a blockbuster film in which your country is subjected to attack? Won't that just further embed these fears into people's minds? What's more, martians are a dehumanised enemy, and nothing suits an aggressive foreign policy more than dehumanising the enemy. OK - what's interesting to me is that at the very same time, Lucas' shabbily acted Prequel Trilogy actually made some points about a despotic leadership using a manufactured enemy to increase its powers. Fear of attack was shown to be one of their most powerful arguments in this process.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    I agree with BizarroAsimov

    by D.Vader

    I think the twins were indicative more of that social sect that seems to applaud ignorance (hip-hop culture) rather than just the blanket "black people". But I can see how others would disagree.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    It was an outright lie.

    by Lost Jarv

    Blair is a cunt.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Michael SUCKS Bay

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Asi - Munich

    by Mr Gorilla

    Despite what I said about the 'Berg only having 2 settings, I've got to agree with you - Munich was a great movie. What I think was really good about it was that he was attaching all the political stuff to a men-on-a-mission movie. Really great stuff. (In terms of entertainment, by the way, I also think that Catch me if you Can is really wonderful.)

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by AsimovLives

    If you feel so tolerant to the two black stereotype robots of Transformers 2, then explain to me the rationalle behind why two interstellar robots from another planet would completly mimick the traits of two illiterated blackmen to the point they can't even really know how to read. What's the narrative logic to that? What's the narrative porpose to that? What's their porpose? Because, frankly, to me it's all for the sake of a bad cheap cheesy laugh. And racist too.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Munich was 2/3rd's off a great movie

    by Lost Jarv

    Everything after the naked chick was woefully bad.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Hypocrite

    by Lost Jarv

    So you're anti-racism but fine with homophobia. <P>You're nothing more than a hypocritical little bigot. <P>And a cunt.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    History repeating itself

    by DocPazuzu

    Just before AssLives was banned as BladeRunnerUnit and later as Memories-of-Murder he went off on similar homophobic rants. The more people tried to reason with him, the more he piled on the slurs in order to avoid backing out of the corner he was in. He then gloriously and hilariously imploded before being banned to the merriment of many. Looks like it's going to happen again.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by AsimovLives

    I think Catch Me If You Can is more a filmmaking achievement then a story or narrative achievement. While i don't think the story is bad, i think the movie works more like a colelction of great moments of filmmaking from a very talented filmmaker. It's the kind of movie one would like more because of how well it's made then because it tells some really good story.<br><br>And Munich is a masterpiece, it's easily one of Spielberg's best.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    "while he fellated his woolly tribe."

    by DocPazuzu

    Coffee, meet keyboard. <p> Thanks, Jarv, you bastard!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Interesting indeed, Mr Gorilla

    by D.Vader

    I think there is definitely a difference in intent and execution, however. I firmly believe that Spielberg believed it to be the right time for another War of the Worlds. The Cold War is over, America had no obvious "enemies". The 50's and 60's were rife with excellent scifi because A. we had obvious enemies and B. the entire air of the country was fear, fear of a nuclear doomsday or (in the case of the 40s) infiltration by Communists and an end to our way of life. <p> Since the Cold War ended, we as Americans didn't have that fear any more. After 9-11, it was suddenly very very possible that everything could once again end. <p> So, Spiels being the smart filmmaker he is, saw it as a perfect time to make War of the Worlds, and I agree. Make it in the 90s and it doesn't have the same impact, the same oomph (look at ID4). Make it at a time when we're already fearful of attack, and BINGO, you've got a great reaction. That's why the scifi films of yore were so successful.<p> So there's the intent. But the execution differs. He doesn't litter his film with anything that suggests 9-11 or Muslims or religious differences, and that's key. It allows the viewer to come away with his own conclusion. Either the movie is gonna be "way cool" based on visuals or story, or its gonna be "way scary" bc they are reminded of how scared they are of another attack. <p> I actually saw the film as not necessarily an indictment of the Iraq War, but a presentation to the American public of what a War on your homeland will look like. Here's hundreds of displaced Americans, trekking across the country with nowhere to go, afraid of getting caught in between the firefights of the Army and the Aliens (which is exactly what happens to our heroes). I saw the film as saying "See? This is what happens to any country during war. We've never experienced it on our shores, but this is what it could look like." It brought to my mind images of hundreds of Afghanis and Iraqis fleeing to other countries during their times of strife. <p> In case you can't tell, I really do like the movie, so I'm glad to participate in a discussion with you on this, especially with regards to this subject of intent and playing on current fears. <p> And I find Episode II and III's Palpatine and his political machinations to be brilliant, and a great commentary on current political times too.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Asimov..

    by Pawprint

    You're questioning the narrative logic of Tranformers to try and make your point?! You fucking idiot.<p> Yes, the twins were about cheesy laughs; unfortunately they were not funny. They were not racist however, but just piss-poor unfunny stereotypes. There is a difference - learn it.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    In fact, Munich isn one of the reasons i despise

    by AsimovLives

    Crystal Skullfuck so much. To have witnessed spielberg achieve such heights and then to plunder to such deaths, and all for the most basic dumb mistakes imaginable, it's bewildering. I can't even fucking beleive the same guy who made Crystal Skullfuck is the same guy who did Munich. Or Raiders Of The Lost Ark, for that matter.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    And Tintin is filling my heart with pure dread

    by AsimovLives

    I really don't have a good feeling about it!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by D.Vader

    I never said the Twins were a *good* idea, and the only explanation is that they got their personalities by watching MTV and finding personalities they liked and enjoyed and thought were a good fit for their own.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    i think the name mudskid says it all.

    by crazybubba

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    You should qwuestion the narrative logic of EVERY MOVIE. Why should Bay's shit mvoies get a free pass? Why the fuck should his movies get a free pass? Why should his fucking movies and that pussy ass fuckign hack should be isempt of that? That's the very fucking reason why Bay keeps on making those terrible movuies, this lenience stupidity to those terrible stupid dumb shit movies. Who then fuck is Michael Bay to have merits such forgivess you don't even give to Spielberg or Scorsese? Who the fuck is Michael Bay to get free passes? Fuck that attitude, man! Fuck that bullshit!<br><br>And fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by toadkillerdog

    Not exactly. Just because an offensive stereotype might have some redeeming 'heroic' qualities, does not mitigate the inherent offensiveness of the stereotype. Charlie Chan for example, was 'heroic, but ask just about any Chinese or Asian at the time he was popular if they thought he was a role model and the answer was no. Using the example of Eddie Murphy, he was ostensibly the hero in all of his R rated movies from the eighties, funny as hell too. But he certainly played the racial stereotype - not as offensively as some, but take a look at the brilliant Robert Townsend send up called Hollywood Shuffle, in it he shows how Murphy cashed in on the face mugging,outlandish, fast and loud talking stereotype.<p> I do not have a problem with stereotypes as long as they are clearly shown to be so. Meaning: Go for the joke if you must, but balance that extremity with a truthful representation of the race or group you just stereotyped. Balance it. If the twins had been heroic, it still would have been offensive because they still would have been the only 'Black' portrayals outside of the forgettable 'My other ass-cheek' Tyrese.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    No problem Doc

    by Lost Jarv

    He does seem to bring out the best in people.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Gays For Bay = Racist Jokes Loving Morons

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    what a load of drivel

    by Lost Jarv

    "I think Catch Me If You Can is more a filmmaking achievement then a story or narrative achievement. While i don't think the story is bad, i think the movie works more like a colelction of great moments of filmmaking from a very talented filmmaker. It's the kind of movie one would like more because of how well it's made then because it tells some really good story. <P> And Munich is a masterpiece, it's easily one of Spielberg's best." <P>Pretentious little cockchafer. <P>Munich isn't anywhere near Spielberg's top films and is certainly not a masterpiece. Only a goat-blowing tongue cleaner from the land of hairy-backed women would think that.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Asimov..

    by Pawprint

    My point is nothing to do with Bay - you're questioning the logic of a film where robots have lips, teeth, are autonomous, etc.<p> Within the conext of the film, the twins/Jazz getting their personalities from MTV stereotypes is just as reasonable as anything else.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Gee Redbeard, we have something in common

    by AsimovLives

    Our despise for Michael Shit Bay. And that's how it should be. That alone makes you my friend.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    No, it's not reasonable, no it's not logical, it's all bulslhit. The two black racist joke robots MAKE absolutly not fucking sense whatsoever. Really, tell me, how in the story those robots can make sense. How two robots form outer space would incorporate into them character traits of illiterated blacks, and what porpose it would serve them in their desguise as autobots? What is the fucking point? for a fucking cheessy joke? That's TERRIBLE STUPID RETARD FILMMAKING. It's completly unexcusable! It's stupid. It's retard. And it's unexcusable. Bay is a shit for doing it, Orci is a shit for doing it, and the people who loved that and endorsed it are even mroe stupid and shitty then Bay and Orci.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    You have no friends, cunt,

    by Lost Jarv

    you're like a piss stained wino degenerate that parks his fat shit-smeared self next to a complete stranger on the bus and slurs "you're my beshtest mate, you are" <P>Except slightly less coherent.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself Part 2: Get fucked harder

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    by the way, the word is "retarded"

    by Lost Jarv

    just to help you out.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself with a vengence

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Gee Redbeard

    When I read the title "we have something in common" I was all like "Wow, you're a warrior for peace and justice by day and a lover of women at night as well?!?!". It turns out you meant we both think Michael Bay is an untalented hack. Damn. So close to finding my equal, and yet so far.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself free or get fucked hard

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    The Twins were heroic

    by D.Vader

    Weren't they the only Bots to tangle with Devastator and protect the kids?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    TDK

    by Pawprint

    But still; my point is whether you find the stereotype offensive or not, it is still not racism, and nor is Bay racist.<p> Switch on MTV and you're more or less guaranteed to see some gangsta rapper not too far removed from how Jazz or the twins act.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    D Vader

    by Mr Gorilla

    Well, that IS interesting... If that was his intention then hats off to him.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Bullshit Asimov, you said the TPM was a good movie.

    by ganymede3010

    Your words not mine. Until you denounce that piece of shit your opinions will continue to be suspect.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Gee Redbeard

    by AsimovLives

    I can always loan you my Zorro outfit.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    ganymede3010

    by AsimovLives

    Of course i said STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is a good movie. Only a retard would disagree.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    ganymede3010

    by AsimovLives

    Of course i said STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is a good movie. Only a retard would disagree.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    ganymede3010

    by AsimovLives

    wai wait wait... TPM is THE PHAMTOM MENACE? Or are you fucking it up?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    Pull your head out of your arse and listen:<p> Is the idea of robots watching MTV and thinking that's how humans behave anymore illogical than transforming into vehicles, having teeth and or lips, pissing oil or anything else IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FUCKING FILM, you retard.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Mr. Gorilla

    by D.Vader

    Of course, I don't KNOW his intention. I can only speculate =).

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Yes, Pawprint

    by toadkillerdog

    But why would Bay take a stereotype from MTV? That is like taking a stereotype from Hee Haw. <p> Bay is not obligated to provide a 'a fair and balanced' portrayal of any group or ethnicity, but when he or any other offends, he damn sure better be prepared to take the heat. <p> Are you suggesting that MTV rappers is the only place were Bay could find a portrayal of Blacks? I do not think you are, and that certainly is not the case that MTV is the only avenue, so that means he deliberately chose that route - the lowest common denominator for the sake of a joke, and provided no other means to balance it. In a movie as long as TF2 he could not find the time to balance that offensive portrayal? <p> Do I think Mikey is a racist? No. I do not. I think he is a supremely insensitive tongue cleaner, but he is not Lucas class racist. <p> But he promulgates racist stereotypes, and while not being a racist, it certainly IS racist to do that.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    "I can always loan you my Zorro outfit."

    by Lost Jarv

    What, the one you wear to molest kids in? <P>The flashing blade, indeed.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    toadkillerdog

    by ominus

    'Bay's insensitivity and borderline racism came from not balancing the offensive stereotypes.' the above is exactly what i said in an old TF2 talkback in order to defend Bay.I agree that its exactly the reason what the TF2 looks racist,because there is no balance in the potrayal of stereotypes. <p>But in TF1 we did have a little variety in the multirace stereotypes: Tha black kid who was the best hacker in the world which means he was at least a genius, the latin soldier guy who couldnt wait to go home to see his family,the scene with the white soldiery guy who wasnt your typical badass military dude,but a man who had a wife and a baby and loved them,u had the arabian kid who wasnt a dwarf like in TF2,but brave enough to help the soldiers. <p>So yes its the hyperbole and the excessive use of the stereotypes in the second movie,which make the film and Bay look like racists.Bay is not intentionally racist,but following the typical formula of the sequels: Bigger and louder is better,he just lost the balance and we have these results . <p>And yes i know that not all the black people are like those that MTV promotes every day,but unfortunately the brainwash from MTV and the rest of the entertainment industry,affects the audience's general perception in a harmful way.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    It's unintentional, but still racist

    by Lost Jarv

    Racism through hackery is still racism. It's just more collateral damage racism.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    ominus

    by toadkillerdog

    We are in total agreement.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Harry potter and the poa is fuckin awesome

    by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN

    fuck off

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    TDK

    by Pawprint

    As pointed out earlier, he does balance out the stereotypes by having the twins take on Devastator and protect the kids.<p> Let's be honest - if you took your impression of what black people are really like from a lot of popular TV, you're gonna get a lot of stereotyping.<p> Just out of interest, I wonder what ethnic group the twins' voice actors were...

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    SUPERCOWBELL (YOU MAKE ME INSANE WITH ANGER)

    by BADCANDLEJACK

    Your post (even though i have not read a word of it) makes me insane with anger, i think it is the worst thing my conciousness has happened across in the previous 5 mins. i am considering rubbing marmite in my eyes and walking into a high velocity zone, you are a plauge upon this website, you fester and ooze excrement from your every pour. a pox on you. may all your future siblings be mal-formed wilderbeast, and whatever reply you give i will not read, but it will fill me with anger anyway. May all the children in the worchildren in the world be burned and buggered at BBQs. May we give thanks to god

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay to Cast Olivia Munn as...

    by Disney_Retcond_my_STD

    hot half asian skank who disrespects her culture every time she opens her mouth

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    2009 movie reviews of crap I saw, in a nutshell

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Paul Blart: Cute <p> The Watchmen: Better than most will admit <p> Observe and Report: Awesome, Seth Rogan's best movie. <p> Last House on the Left: Fucked up, but good. <p> Crank 2: Awesome part 2 <p> Wolverine: I've seen monkeys make better shit. <p> The Hangover: Hilarious, made me forget Wolverine. <p> JJ'S Star Trek: Best Bones impersonation ever! <p> Land Of The Lost: Hilarious part 2 <p> Terminator Salvation: Entertaining, However it failed as a continuous story-line for John Conner, should've been called "Along came Marcus." <p> Transformers 2: What? <p> G.I. Joe: Best Goofy. Big Popcorn Summer movie in years. It was ridiculous, in a good way. <p> Drag Me to Hell: Not bad but should've been called, EviL Dead 4: MEET THE NEW BITCH TO GET TOSSED AROUND A ROOM BY DEMONS AND SHIT. <p> Moon: Listen, I like Sam Rockwell as much as anybody But Will Smith and Tom Hanks filled my quota for films with the "one fucker" the majority of the ride films. <p> Halloween 2: Never thought I would see a director lose his fucking mind during production before. <p> The Hurt Locker: Classic Bigelow, <p> So you see? It's nobody's fault... Other than The Hurt Locker, A bunch of shit oozed out of Hollywood's ass over the last 9 months.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by toadkillerdog

    I think you missed my Charlie Chan analogy. It matters not if the offensive stereotype does something heroic. The stereotype is not balanced by an heroic act - they are still 'jive' talking lowest common denominator comic relief. A stereotype does not have to be a villain to still be offensive. <p> I do not watch much TV, so I will take your word for it that the portrayals on other shows are not that positive.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    conspiracy any chance of another story

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    great wolverine review Bizarro

    by crazybubba

    I'd rather watch TF2 then sit through wolverine again.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    LMAO@Pawprint

    by Stalkeye

    Damn, this guy is more of a TF apologist than Lockes.Ah, desperate attempts to "excuse" Bay's shitty sequel. I also forgot that the movie was also mysoginist as well as racist.<p>And fuck Spielberg too, that cocksnot sold his soul since KOTCS.i can't bear to watch that shit fest again even though a friend offered to give me the BluRay copy.Stevie had jumped the shark when he nuked the fridge.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Bad Boys 2 and Transformers almsot put me to sleep

    by AsimovLives

    Those two movies were the most boring shit i ever seen in my whole life. I almost dozzed off, and i never dozz off when i'm watching a movie for the first time in a theater. Worst, BB2, i saw it in a café packed wioth people, and i still almost feel asleep. That's how fucking bored i got watching that shit not evne the people around was able to keep me awake. Fuckign shit, Michael Bay's mvoies are not only stupid, retard and badly made, they are also very fucking boring.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Gays for Bay = people without an heartbeat

    by AsimovLives

    Only zombies would find anything of interest in any Bay shit movie.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    As soon as i saw the opening scene in Bad Boys 2 where

    by crazybubba

    Lawerence and Smith rip of their Klan hoods I turned the DVD player off. Will Will Smith ever make a decent movie?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    Bulslhit! MTV??? Is that how a robot would get an inspiration to gain character traits from an illiterate black dude? Is there amny illiterate black dudes on MTV? Is there the best place to get to copy an illiterate black dude? And also, what's the fundamental advantage to inpersonate and fully copy to the point of complete illiteracy a black dude who can't read? What's the fucking tactical advantage in that? Can you answer that? Or are you just making blind excuses to justify a retarded movie and the retarded filmmakers who made it?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    crazybubba

    by AsimovLives

    The answer is no. ALI came before Bad Boys 2.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Will Smith

    by Kremzeek

    Legend of Bagger Vance was good. Can't say I've seen very many of his other films though, crazybubba

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    Yes, you are correct about the dude. All this Gays For Bay can't find a single good ezxcuse to justify the shit that Bay puts in his movies. Justy check out the pathetic excuses he makes to justify the illiterate twin robots. If you could call that an excuse!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    bizarroAsimovlives: not bad (2009 reviews)

    by Stalkeye

    and I concur with MOST of what you said.(Paul Blart?!? WTF?) Too bad you didn't give us your take on District 9.That was the sci fi equivilent of Hurt Locker...actually a little better if ya ask me.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Legend of Bagger Vance--talk about stereotypes

    by crazybubba

    Asimov--you're right.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Will smith is screen poison for me

    by AsimovLives

    And after I Am Legend, i want him to go fuck himself up in his fucking ass. Fuck Will Smith, man! That fucking guy made himself into a painted face caricature. If i was an american black man, i would thrown shit at his face.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    top 5 of the year so far

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    In no particular order; Inglorious Basterds, Up, Watchmen, District 9 and Hangover. <p> Yet to see Moon or Hurt Locker

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Whatever...

    by Kremzeek

    It was appropriate for the time in which the movie was set. Or are you going to get all PC and rewrite history? And Asimov, though I disagree with you about Star Trek (thought the only parts that were "WTF" were the swollen hands and Spock jettisoning Kirk to that ice planet.... HUH? What happened to putting people in the brig? - Instead we'll jettison them to their probable death?... But I digress. I was going to say, other than Trek, I still agree with everything you've posted. I will never see TF2. Ever.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    good list but D9 is best movie of the year

    by crazybubba

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    The Hurt Locker and District 9 felt like salvation to me. The movies that stoped my despair for this year's cinema. Even Mann's Public Enemies, good that it is, felt a bit of a let down, or rather, as Mann going through the motions (which is far better then most people's best job). But realyl, it was district 9 and The Hurt locker who really felt like the first proper good movies of the year. Can't wait for Moon, The Road and The Informant!.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Dist 9

    by Kremzeek

    Looking forward to that one. Only movie lately that's looked even remotely good.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    And by "Dist" 9, I meant "9"

    by Kremzeek

    ...Although Dist9 looked a bit intriguing. Anyone see "9"? Curious about that one. Seemed like it had potential.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Terminator Salvation is shit!!!!

    by AsimovLives

    And it's not even good on the "goofy shit to laugh at". No, it's all bad. terrible, terrible. The mvie was so bad, the only thing me and my mates who watched it was to watch at Moon Goodblood. We only perked up when she was onscreen. Otherwise, it as comma city. Fucking useless piec eof shit movie. Made not one iota of sense. I'ts like to shake the hands and head butt the idiots who though that hiring McG to make a Terminator movie was a good idea. Who the fuck are this clowns?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Hey Stalkeye, Trust me...

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Paul Blart was a parody of Die Hard with a fat dude. It wasn't great but it was... Cute, I laughed more than twice. <p> That's all I got. <p> But you're correct I forgot, <p> District 9: Inspiring, Breath of fresh air, in a era running rampant with coke sniffing, money grubbing, BAYONITES. <p> kinda make you REALLY wonder why those other movies I mentioned, some with 100 million dollars plus budgets were so shitty?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Would say my top 5 is the weakest top 5 for some time

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    But as I said yet to see Hurt Locker or Moon and still have 3 months left

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    This year until and with the summer in movies was all merda

    by AsimovLives

    Merda! All shit! And i'm still laughing at the people who though that Zackmen is a smart and deep good movie. That was the first indication this year was fucked up!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    The top 5 of this year is made of 2 movies

    by AsimovLives

    The Hurt Locker and District 9. The remaining 3 are not filled because i don't want to spoil those two good movies with this year's shittiness.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Does Appaloosa counts as a 2009 movie?

    by AsimovLives

    I saw it this year. Darn good movie! Really good!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    EVERYONE KNOWS...

    by Dharma4

    That TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN (aka BIGGEST BULLSHIT OF A FILM) was not Roberto Orci's and Alex Krutzman's fault!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye/Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    I'm defending TF2 now?! Bay apologist?! I only remember saying it wasn't racist; not defending the film or Bay any further than than, you pair of intellectual fucking lightweights.<p> The robots can't read - so fucking what? Are there no stupid black people?<p> Short answer; Bay is not a racist - you don't make films with black leads as the heroes if you're a fucking racist, do you?<p> To be honest I could live my whole life without seeing another Bay film and not be worse off for it, but fuckwits throwing accusations of racism about when they don't even know the meaning of the fucking word just pisses me off.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Dharma4

    by AsimovLives

    Oh no, it was all just Bay's fault. The movie wrote itself, didn't it? No, amn Porci and Klutzman are almost as much to be blamed for that shit as Bay. Yes, Bay is more to blame, but the blame doesn't die single in regarding this movie. No,Porci and Klutzman are also to blame. They are not getting out of this scott free, no they aren't!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Asi you are full of hate

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    so u didnt like Watchmen either

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Pawprint, you are definatly a Gay For Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Nice try trying to disguise it, but fail.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    The only great movie Will SMITH starred in was.....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Six Degrees of Separation. He made this around the time he was still doing Fresh Price of Bel-Air. Ironically Asimovlives, he gets fucked in his ass! <p> Dude broke 100 million with eight different pictures, eight! Yeah sure they were shit but that's still impressive

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Bay is not racist, and the earth is not round

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Miyamoto_Musashi

    by AsimovLives

    It's not hate, it's common sense.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    And that's it is it? When your miniscule resources of intellect run out, all you have left is calling me gay?!<p> Oh fuck off, insect!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    i agree, Will Smith did made two good movies

    by AsimovLives

    And he did a very good action job on them. Personally, i think his work on Ali is brillant. and then he became the farce he is today. Fuck him. diouble fuck him for wasting the talent he once had with the buillshit he makes today. The fucker is just greed on two legs. And he can take his anoying brat son of his with him.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I dont think Bay is a racist

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    he doesn't give a shit about anyone other than himself, think he is pretty equal in that respect.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    the two good Will Smith movies are, of course

    by AsimovLives

    Ali and Six Degrees Of Seperation

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Miyamoto_Musashi

    by AsimovLives

    and then he find black stereotypes particullary funny. No, the fucker is racist alright.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Pawprint: You asked "Are there no stupid black people?"

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    To answer your dumb ass question <p> "Yes there are and if you were standing next to one when you said that, an ass kicking would not be far behind. You would have "PAW PRINTS" all over the left side of your jaw. <p> Don't be ridiculous, stupidity knows no color.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Pawprint: You asked "Are there no stupid black people?"

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    To answer your dumb ass question <p> "Yes there are and if you were standing next to one when you said that, an ass kicking would not be far behind. You would have "PAW PRINTS" all over the left side of your jaw. <p> Don't be ridiculous, stupidity knows no color.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    You got a lot of cheek! Defending the most retarded movie made in the last 4 decades, and then you call somebody else stupid. The irony of that is so thick you would need a chainsaw to cut through it.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    And AsimovLives Calls ME Gay?!

    by Pawprint

    Just a few quotes from AsimovLives - all from different posts:<p> "And after I Am Legend, i want him to go fuck himself up in his fucking ass."<p> "Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass." <p> "He deserves to take every insult thrown at it... UP IN HIS FUCKING ASS!" <p> Please don't live out your cum and shit stained day-dreams in here.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    R-rated TERMINATOR SALVATION Director's Cut on the Blu-Ray way in a month or so.<p> BALE WILL HAVE HIS REEEEVENGE!!!!!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Double posting intentional

    by bizarroAsimovlives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Gays forBay should never coment on somebody else's intelligence

    by AsimovLives

    Makes them look even more stupid then they are.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    So if I called a black person stupid, they would punch me? So you're saying all black people are violent thugs?!<p> RACIST! FUCKING RACIST!<p> Twat.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    Take from that what you will, Gay For Bay. And you havne't yet anwered what is the llgic and the tactical advantage of a robot from space to completly assume the characteristics of an illiterated black man. Can you answer that or not?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Asi, you're obviously locked in a heated flame war right now so i'll just give you a little jab in the ribs and say...<p> Will Smith's ALI was shit.<p> Ali, Asi, Ali, Asi. I can see why you might like it though.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Go on then Asimov you noisy Cunt...

    by Pawprint

    Show me where I have defended TF2 as a good film. One example, you fucking moron. I'll wait.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Pawprint, don't play daft!

    by AsimovLives

    Answer the fucking question and stop deviating the subject. Answer!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    It has the same tactical advantage as giving a robot lips.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    If you don't like to be called Gay For Bay

    by AsimovLives

    i can always call you Suck For Bay. Is that better for you?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    And what is the tactical advantage of giving a robot lips?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    Seriously, what is this fixation with homosexuality all about?<p> Do you secretly dream of having a hard, thick cock being pushed into your mouth, the throbbing head nudging the back of your throat. Feel it twitch as it shoots red hot jets of tasty cum down your throat?<p> That make you hard? Do you feel ashamed?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Cobra--Kai

    by AsimovLives

    I liekd it becasue it's a very good mvoie made by a very good filmmaker. What i can't understand is why there is so much animosity against Ali. I really don't get it.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Tactical Advantage...

    by Pawprint

    It means the robot with lips can kiss the tactically redundant bollocks on the giant robot.<p> get my point yet?!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Will Smith gets paid just for showing up.

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    He gets 20,000,000 for Hancock + 20% of the gross. <p> Meaning he gets 20,000,000 up front and another 20% of the $624,346,274 worldwide gross! <p> That's fucking insane! <p> Fuck That! If I was that fucker, I would be charged up to do another as well

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    Stop deviating the subject! Answer the fucking question!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Hand-In-Cock is fucking bulslhit

    by AsimovLives

    Who the fuck would mistake that bullshit for a good movie? And who the fuck thinks Peter Berg is a good director? This hack wants to make Dune? Fuck him, man! Fuck that motherfucker!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    So, your point is that ther eis no point to the illiterate robots and the kips on the optimus prime. Well, if ther eis no point to that, then what the fuck it's doing in the movie? If it serves no fucking porpose for the narrative, then it's stupid filler. Then it's stupid, and the people who are responsible for it are stupid and ignorant and fucking hacks. So, again, i ask you, why the fuck you feel the need to defend that shit?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    So, your point is that there is no point to the illiterate robots and the lips on optimus prime. Well, if there is no point to that, then what the fuck it's doing in the movie? If it serves no fucking porpose for the narrative, then it's stupid filler. Then it's stupid, and the people who are responsible for it are stupid and ignorant and fucking hacks. So, again, i ask you, why the fuck you feel the need to defend that shit?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    For Fuck's Sake Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    There is NO fucking advantage - I have said this. Do you actually read anything?! If you're going to start applying logic and sense to TF2 (or ANY TFs) you may as well throw away 99% of it. They are talking fucking robots! In the context of the logic of the fucking film, the twins make sense.<p> My point is - now try REALLY HARD, fuckwit - THE TWINS ARE IN THERE FOR COMIC RELIEF - THEY JUST ARE NOT FUNNY - THEY ARE A STEREOTYPE; NOT SOME SORT OF RACIST FUCKING SLUR.<p> Are you all caught up now?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Once Again, Asimov -

    by Pawprint

    Show me where I am actually defending these fucking films?!<p> All I am pointing out is the difference between a stereotype and racism.<p> I couldn't care less about Bay, but calling him a racist is just fucking stupid.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Yeah. Fucking thought so.

    by Pawprint

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives, "Gay For Bay" is a bit much...

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    It pigeonholes all homosexual into one demographic and that's not fair to homosexuals. <p> Now the term you may be looking for could be "BAYBITCH" perhaps?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    No, the the twins don't make sense. No sense whatsoever. THis autobots are robots that are fighting a civil war for aeons, and on earth they developed a camouflague. The camouflague is to give them a tacticala dvantage. The camouflague is for them to turn into similacra of cars. And other vehicles. At least it has the logical of mobility, they can go around without rising too much suspison.<br><br>But what is the advantage of two robots assuming personalities of two black dudes who can't read? How does that make sense EVEN IN THIS FUCKING MOVIE? The two twin robots make no sense in any way, shape or form, even in the middle of the stupidity of this movie. The twins only exist to deliver racist stereotype jokes. RACIST STEREOTYPE JOKES.<br><br>You cannot go around even presenting a minimum amoutnof defense, whatever it is, for the existenc eof the two illiterate robot twins, and claim you are not a groupie for this movie. YOUARE A GROUPIE FOR THIS MOVIE. You are Gay for Bay. You are not fooling anybody. Give up.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    bizarroAsimovlives

    by AsimovLives

    It has to be sexual, dude. There's no other explanation for a human being to defend and enjoy Micahel Bay and his work if they don't feel sexual attraction to the man. Becasue it's impossible for any human being, however slow and dumb he is, to defend the shit that his movies are, through common sense and reason and taste. It has to be sexual. It is sexual. This people lust after the mullet-headed hack. It's lsut. They love him and what to have sex in his fucking ass. They are Gay for Bay. Adn yes, they are his bitches too, Baybitches. Gay For Bay Bitches.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Asi, let me put it another way...

    by ebonic_plague

    How do you think gay people feel about you continually comparing Bay to them? Just because it rhymes doesn't mean that it's not an insult to them to compare their lifestyle to a preening, half-sentient jackass like Mikey.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    bizarroAsimovlives

    by AsimovLives

    you are right in that it's unjust to the homosexuals to be mixed with thye Gays for Bay. I have writen posts befoe where i made the distinction. Homosexuals are people deserving of respect like any human being regardless. Gays For Bay are deviants who should be sent to an isolated island and be left alone and be forced to feed on each other to stay alive. And the survivor would get a bullet in the head, delivered by Michael Bay himself. And then exploded.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Gays for Bay = Pyromaniac Deviants

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    You are an unbelievably thick twat. Bay obviously thought it would be funny to riff on the robots learning to speak through watching television, by having them come off like ill-educated gangsta rappers. It wasn't.<p> Now, two questions, you intellectual dwarf:<p> 1. Where in this TB have I defended these films - or Bay - outside of accusations of racism. Show me.<p> 2. How can a man make 2 films with heroic black lead characters where, in one of them, they actually kill a shitload of KKK members, and be racist?!<p> I'll be waiting.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Fine....GAY FOR BAYBITCHES IT IS!

    by bizarroAsimovlives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    That's the point one needs top be a Gay for Bay not to see the racism in the twin robots. And who says that just because Bayhas black people kill the KKK isempts him from racism? you think all racists belong to the KKK? Shit, the KKK canp0t even stand the members of different chapters. they are not a unified force like in the 1920s. And there's many ways to raciosm then just belong to the KKK and burn crosses. Making movies after movies filled with the most basic insulting black stereotype characters IS racism. That he uses them to milk cheap laughs IS racism. One needs to be EXTREMELY THICK not to understand that. How more thick can you get.<br><br>I'm not thick, i'm sturbon, because i'm right on this. but ti's not jsut me. Check out Vern's review of Transformers 2, and learn, once for all, how fucking racist the twin robots are. If you are not going to learn from anybody at AICN, learn a more well regarded reviewer like Vern. If you wish, i cna provide a link... if you dare have your misguided pro-Bay pre-conceptions challenged.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Oh, By the Way, Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    Go and check out IMDB and tell me what colour/ethnicity the actors are that Bay (the evil racist) PAID - PAID MONEY - to do the voices of his evil racist robots.<p> Then come back and tell me about how this fits into the definition of racism.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Pawprint.

    by HoboCode

    I see the problem here. Allow me to explain something. Racism need not be in the form of a slur or some other kind of malicious intent, and you seem to think it does. Nobody here (at leats I'm not) is arguing there was any kind of malicious intent behind the twins. But that doesn't mean it's not racist. It's still a form of latent racism. It's a result of the creators' preconceived notions of what black people are like, and whether they mean it or not, it can be harmful and offensive to the people being portrayed.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Asimov...

    by Pawprint

    How can someone as fucking stunned as you and still live?!<p> I am gay and want to fuck Bay so that means I don't know what racism is?! I know what an ignorant cunt is and it looks just like you.<p> Bay PAID millions of dollars to two black actors and had them (on screen) kill members of an extremist white supremacist group, and he's a fucking RACIST?!<p> Oh but sorry - VERN said it's racist?! That must make it automatically true! Or maybe you're gay for Vern?! See how fucking feeble that is, dimwit?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Hobocode...

    by Pawprint

    There's no such thing as 'latent racism' - you're either a racist or you aren't. Racism is active discrimination/violence against a group of people based on race or ethnicity.<p> Two robots doing a shit parody of gangsta rappers is not racist. Especially when the setup is based on them watching MTV, which we can agree on to a certain extent, has a healthy population of stereotypes.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by AsimovLives

    Youa re either an unexcusably naive or you are a racist, to not understand the cocnept of latent racism. you must think all that suff is just hicks with puitcforks shouting "nigger" at blacks and burning crosses and lynching? You got to be fucking kidding! and it makes it even doubly funny that you then have the cheek to call somebody else stupid. Again, the irony of that is thick enough to be cut with a chainsaw. You really do not udnerstand, do you? Why i'm even asking?<br><br>Youw ant a steretype? You. you are. You are the perfect stereotype of the Gay for Bay. You are so thick, you can't weven understand the humour of the thing. God, you're thick. And racist. Yeah, i call you racist. Or very naive and dumb. Take your pick.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    HoboCode

    by AsimovLives

    I udnerstand why you don't want to step on the daisies with the subject, but really, in the case of Bay and Transformers 2, i don't think there is much hidden racism. What you see is what you get. And what we see and get is a open display of racism from Bay and his two ass-slave writers Porci and Klutzman. And even if they didn't inteded it as racist but it still went onscreen without any of them even noticing it, then it makes them even more stupid then at first sight. Either way, it's all bad for Bay and his writing croonies. And for the idiots who see nothing wrong with the racial charicature characters of the twin robots.<br><br>This has nothing to do with PC, it's to do with common sense and being human. You know what i mean, friend? If there's hunmour to be taken from this, it's at the expenses of the movie, Bay, the writers and the movie's groupie fools who cannot understand what is going on.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Asimov. You have reached the zenith...

    by Pawprint

    ..of being a cunt.<p> I am a racist?<p> I AM AFRO-CARRIBEAN, YOU STUPID ARSEWIPE. YES - I AM FUCKING BLACK - HOW CAN I BE A RACIST, YOU WASTE OF OXYGEN?!<p> Go and look up 'latent' and tell me how Bay can be a 'latent racist'.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Fuck Michael Bay

    by AsimovLives

    Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Those robots were channeling Kevin Federline!

    by bizarroAsimovlives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Yes, Asimov;

    by Pawprint

    Go back to your fevered dreams of fucking Bay up the arse. It's what you do best. Your cognative dissonance is clearly shit.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Pawprint

    by HoboCode

    "Two robots doing a shit parody of gangsta rappers is not racist."<p> It is when the robots are monkey or animal like. And yes sir, there is such a thing as latent racism. You don't think being involuntarily offensive to a certain race or culture is still racism? Are you insane? Where do you get this notion that racism has to have some kind of active aspect to it? Is this an issue of semantics? Racism has several definitions based on different notions of what it involves. In this case the racism I'm referring to is race-based prejudice.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Various

    by Stalkeye

    pawprint; I call it as i see it from reading your posts, for a second i thought you were Borci, but more defensive as Bobby is a bit laid back. (Cocaine is a helluva drug.)but good luck preaching to the chior.<p> Asi: yeah Hurt locker and D9 were the contenders during the past summer. As for Will Smith, he's a good actor (Six degrees of seperation.) but he's been whoring himself for sometime. although 7 pounds and yes, Hancock were decent films, I can't overlook shit like bad Boys 2 and that damn Bagger vance.<p>Bizaromov: I just might give Blart a go especially if it works as a parody.Gotta run it's Happy Hour Biatches!!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    HoboCode

    by AsimovLives

    Give up, friend. Pawprint is the kind of person who will never understand. He has given enough proof of that already. It's people like him that explains why hacks like Michael Bay still have a career. It's the defeat of the 21th century, friend. It all should had been so much better.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    Have one on me!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Hobocode...

    by Pawprint

    Racism is an action - it is something you physically do or act upon. Describe what you think latent actually means, please.<p> Also, please show me how Bay is showing prejudice in TF2. Define prejudice for me.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives, why are you entertaining Paw Stench?

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    He's an idiot, he says shit like and I quote.... <p> "So if I called a black person stupid, they would punch me? So you're saying all black people are violent thugs?!" <p> Not realizing that if he called anyone stupid to they're face... Black or White or Aqua, they would beat his ass <p> Leave Mr. Paw to his own devices. Let him continue to beat his meat with Skippy peanut butter along with his dumb-ass outlook in peace.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    I am going out.

    by Pawprint

    Have fun.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    bizarro...

    by Pawprint

    I've called plenty of people 'stupid' to their face and not been punched - but being a six-foot black British Soldier can do that. Oh, and just for Asimov and bizzaro, I would run the risk of portraying black men as thugs by beating the fuck out of you, if we ever met. Night!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    An Open Letter to Michael Bay

    by Karuma

    Please do not make this movie. Instead, how about a nice TV remake of Miami Vice? Or, if you do decide to make it, let it be more like the first one and not at all like the second. Thank you. Sincerely, Karuma

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Latent

    by HoboCode

    For this purpose I'm using the word latent in the psychological sense of being "unconscious" or "unaware" of something. <p> In summary, the Twins are "racist" in that the creators were unconsciously offensive to a race/culture by having and projecting race-based pre-conceived notions in the form of negative stereotypes of that race/culture.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    As far as the twins are concerned

    by rogueleader66

    They were un-needed comic relief. Racist? Not really sure about that. Stereotype? Yes. Actually one of them sounded more like Spongebob than a black guy, perhaps because one of them was voiced by Tom Kenney, the voice of Spongebob. Regardless of how you look at them, they were not needed in the movie, comic relief could have been provided in a better manner than two stupid robots. But this is Transformers, a movie based on a comic based on a toy, Shakespere it ain't. Was still a pretty dumb movie though.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Listen PawBritishBlackBayBitchPrint,

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    You aren't the only mother round here that's over 6'0 or taller and being in the British Army suppose ta scare me? Considering I'm In the U S A? <p> Okay, I'm in the Foreign Legion myself, I'm fucking Kimbo Slice crossed with King Kong round here Motherfucker! I'll drop kick your ass! <p> SNARLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!! <p> See? Anybody can get "Internet Muscles" when necessary

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    OMG Pawprint got mad!

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Run! Hide your chillun's from the 6 ft or taller British army dude on a mission!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    I'll just buy the G1 seasons and call it a series.

    by OnO

    I couldn't take my kid to see Transformers 2 after pre-screening it. The dialogue wasn't really appropriate between the twins and soft-core porn with Megan Fox's cooch shot along with Isabel Lucas's derrière being shoved under our noses with cgi tail and all. I lost interest about a quarter of the way through and the final act with the last battle had to be the most clumsy, lazy, and confusing sequence in the story arc. Beyond the balls joke on Devastator he really didn't serve any purpose other than a target for a cgi bullet. When the dvd comes out in October I'll be passing it up for something else much along with Transformers 3 in 2011. I can't see Bay actually broadening out from the formula working for him at the moment. Shame. Probably no Dinobots or Unicron in Transformers 3 and even if he did it would fail the expectations of hardcore Transformer fans because really the man doesn't get the basic source material no matter how much he says he does and that is evident from the two movies, so far. Expect more of Shia and Megan characters and nothing of retail value beyond a bargain bin special when Block Buster goes belly up and Transformers 3 has made its gross opening weekend while it fades into mediocrity next to it's predecessor once the hangover of the ILM bombardment comes to the end with the credits.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    being a six-foot black British Soldier....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    I can Like dumbass movies

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    being a six-foot black British Soldier....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    I can threaten people when I don't understand racism in movies

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    being a six-foot black British Soldier....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    I can be a BayBitch

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    being a six-foot black British Soldier....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    I can call plenty of people 'stupid' to their face and not be punched

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    being a six-foot black British Soldier....

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    I can call plenty of people 'stupid' to their face and not be punched

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    double posting intentional

    by bizarroAsimovlives

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    "It has to be sexual, dude....

    by DocPazuzu

    ...There's no other explanation for a human being to defend and enjoy Micahel Bay and his work if they don't feel sexual attraction to the man. Becasue it's impossible for any human being, however slow and dumb he is, to defend the shit that his movies are, through common sense and reason and taste. It has to be sexual. It is sexual. This people lust after the mullet-headed hack. It's lsut. They love him and what to have sex in his fucking ass. They are Gay for Bay. Adn yes, they are his bitches too, Baybitches. Gay For Bay Bitches." <p> AssLives, nobody -- NOBODY -- gets more sexual kicks off of Bay than you do. That post proves it. It may be hate-fucking, but you've launched more of your sterile, ropy man-goo thinking about Bay than most others have while watching porn -- or having sex. <p> Ever wonder why you're still a virgin even though you're pushing 30? I know, you're saving yourself for someone special, right? Sorry, chief, but your type of "explosions" just don't appeal to Michael Bay.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    "I AM AFRO-CARRIBEAN,

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    YOU STUPID ARSEWIPE. YES - I AM FUCKING BLACK - HOW CAN I BE A RACIST, YOU WASTE OF OXYGEN?!" <p> Excuse me Mr. Paw BUT ANY and EVERYBODY is a little racist.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    michael bay is the james cameron of our generation!

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    just kidding. he sucks.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    "I fucking hate the smell of this motherfucker" thought Megan...

    by conspiracy

    the smell was overpowering her in the small confines of Bays Ferrari 360 as they raced through the streets of Los Angeles towards Stevens compound. She sat there quietly, her heart pounding in her chest. This had been the car that Bay made her wash as part of the 'audition'; she remembered how he had stood there jacking his cock as she washed it in the most suggestive way possible, desperate for the part, how she had willingly let bay 'hot wax' her face, as he put it, as she cleaned the wheels while wearing 4" clear heels. This car, and her own desperation for fame got here where she was today..."And where is that exactly" she thought, "Back in this car...right where I started...a fucking toy". Megan was in a near panic; "my God..what will they do to me.." she thought as they continued through the night.</p><p> Megan had always used sex to get ahead, from the time she was 11 she knew it was her best skill, and only weapon to force the world to give her what she wanted, but it had usually been on her terms...then, Bay got hold of her, and her world turned upside down, her promiscuity had been used against her. Sure...she had gotten fame, riches...but if the world only knew the cost to her body, and soul. Unable to catch her breath and nearing tears..she rolled the window down.</p><p> "Roll that shit up cunt" bellowed Bay..still wearing his leatherboy vest, the glit of his Patek Phillip caught Megans eye has he reaches down for something..."don't like my stink Megan? I thought you'd be used to it by now...remember what I told you bitch?" quizzed Bay has he placed small vile on the center console. "Yes.....I remember" whispered Megan...unable to look Michael in the eye, "because it reminds you of your success...of who you own"</p><p>"Fuckin A baby", sneered Bay, "And once you have my stink on you, it follows you forever...it marks you as mine. like a predator marks its kill..., now give me some Marilyn" crowed Bay. Megan did as commanded and held out her arm, her Marilyn Monroe Tattoo face up. Bay slammed on the brakes as he came to a red light. "Fuck yeah.." he growled. Taking the small vile from the console Bay tapped a long line of pure peruvian marching dust along Megans ratty and grotesque Tattoo...bent over and took a long, deep, satisfying snort into each nostril. "She may be fucking dead...but fuck if I can't still to snort coke from Marilyns tits" thought Bay, drunk with his power "Now pull those fuckers out for me baby" he intoned as he hit the top button, lowering the Ferraris roof. Megan instinctivly looked around for Paparrazi...humiliated, and scared, but knowing it was this or a trip back to a trailer in Tennessee, working the pole, and obscurity...she tugged the elastic of her one piece dress down, revealing the white flesh of her fake breasts to the world. A minivan pulled along side of them..., a young girl looking out the window at the Ferrari and it's passengers" Megan quickly reached to cover herself. "Leave it cunt" hissed Bay, she felt his rough hands grasping her left tit.."Hey cutie...watch this" screamed Bay as he leaned over and enveloped Megans exposed tit into his mouth, the smell of sweat in his hair rank upon him...Removing his mouth with a 'pop' he yelled again.."come see me when you're 15 baby...and I'll let you have her seat" he laughed...pinchin Megans exposed nipple. The van roared away...a shocked look in everyones face. The tears flowed from Foxs eyes...she felt like dirt...Bay made everyone feel that way...but she resisted the urge to get out..."no...you can't" she said to herself, "Anything for the brass ring...anything". Bay hit the gas..leaving two long marks in the middle of Sunset...and they continued their journey to Stevens house, where Megan knew payment must be rendered...she prayed only the price would not be too high....

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    I gotta go...

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    Chris Nolan want my opinion on how tight Megan Fox's cunt is...... <p> peace, Bay Bitches!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    oh, and our opinions are obviously irrelevant

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

    because everyone on this site universally hates michael bay and yet it was the most successful movie of the summer. so, our opinions on bay mean fuck all. but, that being said, Fuck Michael Bay!!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Way to keep things respectable round these parts Conspiracy

    by bizarroAsimovlives

    You're writing is top notch!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    awesome, conspiracy...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...just awesome. <p> Seriously, you really need to collect all this shit for us and rapidshare it or something. You are the man!

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Thanks...no time today thats why it is short and "evil" not "fun

    by conspiracy

    Bad day at work=Bad day for Megan..lmao.</p><p>WHat I"m looking forward to is the next Star Trek update...I want to see where I can take the Abrams/Orcu/Nimoy story...THAT one I'm sending to the offices of BadRobot. lmao

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Asimov Vs Michael Bay = 2pac Vs Biggie

    by Disney_Retcond_my_STD

    this can't end well.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Pawprint is Idiot

    by Phategod2

    I Dont KNow what british subburb you grew up in buddy but you might Want to look up Amos and andy and tell me that shit wasn't racist and it's exactly what Bay did In TF2.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives sure likes to tell people to go fuck themselves

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    go fuck yourself

    by Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by toadkillerdog

    I fuckin lost it on the "roll that shit up, cunt" line! That cracked me the fuck up! You are indisputably the funniest and most consistently entertaining writer on these boards.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed the hell outta Big Robots Hitting each Other-

    by Sal_Bando

    -One More Time. It was fun. It had mucho explosions. It was ludicrous. The storyline was shit. And it had Big Robots. We like Big Robots. <p> Mammaries of Mommy you are a pathetic gay bashing closet case who enjoys anal sex with lepers, goats and drunks from Biarritz of all ages, not nec. in that order, either. <p> You are an arrogant 'Cockbag' to coin Noted_Sage Jarv-Jarv's words, and as big a Tool as I've seen on these boards. <p> It's like you have fucking Tourrette's syndrome here-I HATE BAY. JarJAR Trek SUCKS etc. <p> Actually, Mammaries--YOU SUCK. And you picked up hoof and mouth disease too over by the Ebro, ya might wanna take a looksee there before shaving the strap on.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    TOADKILLERDOG...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Is your name a reference to The Black Company novels? Just curious.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    I like the Chans and Moto films.

    by Sal_Bando

    Don't care about the goofy 'yellowface' that much, you might as well never watch any westerns made before the mid-sixties, you know? Half the 'Indians' were italians like Iron Eyes Cody(YES), or Ricardo Montalbon or Charles Bronson or lord know who. Don Rickles even(!) and Rod Steiger. If you got a problem w/ Warner Olandt, don't even mention F Troop or The Searchers...

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    seniorspeilbergio

    by toadkillerdog

    It most certainly is! Glen Cook is a fantastic writer. Have you read the Black Company books?

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    The Twins were retarded, but unfortunately kids loved em

    by beane2099

    Stupid kids. TF2 could have been alright if they ommited the twins, the wannabe Terminator scene, anything with the Witwickies, and anything related to Laboof. If he had a shard of the Allspark that rejuvinated old farting robot, why didn't they just use it on Prime and save us 40 painful minutes of tracking through the desert? Movie would have been just fine with miliary and Autobots fighting Decepticons. And I think Bay didn't bring the other two writers back because they talked smack about the twins too. And in future news, Nerdy Asian stereotype autobot that's good at math brings in $2 billion for TF3. Sigh.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    TF 2 was really great

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Very enjoyable movie. Hope we see some space battles in the next one.

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Crazy Idea...

    by Bro_Winky

    Anybody besides me think that the next movie should replace Megan Fox with one of those Old Navy mannequins that can be moved around the scene with a series of pulleys and wire? Might actually improve on her acting ability...

  • Oct. 2, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Beane...

    by DeeJay

    ... while I don't agree with the "stupid kids" comment, I do agree that the twins seemingly existed for the sole purpose of detracting from the good parts of the movie.<br> <br> Serious.<br> <br> The fact that these characters lacked all logic actually flew in the face of the extensive logic Bay had already established in part 1 (the accurate body mass of the Transformers, the limitations of Bumblebee's voice circuits, etc.). Yet, here, we were actually exposed to "illiterate" astronauts. <br> <br>This time around, I hope that Bay doesn't shut his internal compliance crew out of the various story & character development processes. While I enjoyed portions of the second movie, I simply couldn't get my head around Bay pushing a project that practically contradicted much of the message he established in both "The Island" and the first Transformers movie. Here's to hoping this third installment gets the message back on track.

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 12:23 a.m. CST

    TOADKILLERDOG

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Yes i have and yes he is. The Black Company novels fucking rock. My favorite fantasy series next to Game of Thrones. Here's a suggestion for you: Try reading them with the Soundtrack to Full Metal Jacket, LA Confidential and Audioslave on some headphones. Rage Against the Machine works too. You can practically see the movie in your head. Shitty Hollywood blockbusters? Who needs 'em. Fuck you Bay. I got the Megaplex playin in my head, yo.

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    "Mr. Bay"? You're fucking kidding, right?

    by Citizen Sane

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 3:23 a.m. CST

    I'm proud to announce

    by Megan_Foxs_Tool_Box

    that this movie will be the most kickass robot movie with transvestites evah!!! <p> Zip it-all you haters!

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 3:56 a.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg, don't be envious

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 3:57 a.m. CST

    M. Bay: The man, the mullet, the total lack of talent

    by AsimovLives

    the goat fucking

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 3:57 a.m. CST

    M. Bay: The man, the mullet, the total lack of talent

    by AsimovLives

    the goat fucking

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 4:01 a.m. CST

    bizarroAsimovlives

    by AsimovLives

    The taller they are, the harder the fall.

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 4:01 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, go fuck yourself

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 4:09 a.m. CST

    No, AssLives....

    by DocPazuzu

    ...fuck YOU, you proto-fascist, self-loathing, hate-fucking jackhole.

  • Oct. 3, 2009, 4:12 a.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by AsimovLives

    Friend, you know i like and rest you a lot, so it was sad for me to see you use the old rotten "it's not Shakespeare" thing. A bit of historical perspective shows us that Shakespeare wrote POPULIST plays. His better know stuf, his plays, were populist entetainemtn, the same stuff that today we would call a popcorn movie. He wrote the plays for the hoi polloi. The noblemen didn't go to his plays, they considered theater a vulgar type of entertaiment. The stuff that shakespeare created for the noblemen, whenhe was hired, was the sonnets. Remember the famous sonnet "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?/Thou art more lovely and more temperate". That was riten as na order for a nobleman. But the plays, EVERY PLAY, was writen for the people, for the masses, it was mass entertaiment. We, us, are shakespeare target public for his plays.<br><br>It's one of the most wrong things to say that a popocorn movie is not Shakespeare. Wrong, shakespeare wrote the day's popcor