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Mr. Bay Announces TRANSFORMERS 3 For 2011 (Not 2012)!!
Merrick here...
Remember that little tussle a while back when The Powers That Be at Paramount said we'd get another TRANSFORMERS movie in 2011? Then Michael Bay indicated he wanted to take a year or so off & more or less said we wouldn't get another TRANSFORMERS movie until 2012?
Well...whatever that was about...has apparently been resolved.
Michael Bay has posted the following on his Shoot for the Edit site (HERE):
Transformers 3: July 1st, 2011
10/01/2009 09:41 AM
Well its official: We have a great Transformers 3 story. The release date is now July 1st 2011. Not 2012.
Today is Day One. This morning started with an ILM meeting for five hours in San Francisco. Currently I'm flying with writer Ehren Kruger to Rhode Island to talk to Hasbro about new characters.
P.S. Megan Fox, welcome back. I promise no alien robots will harm you in any way during the production of this motion picture. Please consult your Physician when working under my direction because some side effects can occur, such as mild dizziness, intense nausea, suicidal tendencies, depression, minor chest hair growth, random internal hemorrhaging and inability to sleep. As some directors may be hazardous to your health, please consult your Doctor to determine if this is right for you.
Pain and Gain is right after shooting of Trans 3.
Michael
Is Kruger writing the third film all by himself? Beause it if took 3 people (Ehren being one of 'em) to come up with the "script" for REVENGE OF THE FALLEN...a film that made no sense at all & actually managed to make robots, explosions, guns, and jets completely boring...what the hell's gonna happen with only one guy pulling it together?
2011? Wonder if this was in any foretold in the Mayan prophesies...
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now that's some bad news
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No Really
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I tell ya, Bay is a fucking wrecking ball of a filmmaker, but I do love his treatment of his whiny starlet. Hats off, Bay. Now, try and avoid being a racist bastard this time around. :)
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Oct. 1, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST
Michael Bay, proof that evolution doesn't always work foward
by AsimovLives
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But damm she is still great to look at
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Please get assassinated.
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when she bashed Michael "Pussy Ass" Bay. And it's obvious that "3 crewmen" letter was writen by Michael Bay himself. Michael Bay is a piece of shit, and even the starlet that owns her career on one of his movies can't fucking stand him. That's how fucking bad Bay is. Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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I sincerely thought Transformers 2 was THE biggest waste of money I've ever spent at the movies, but damn if it isn't funny to see him fuck with Fox during the initial announcement of the third film.
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sidekick Trannies.
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I hate to say it, but I'd rather see robots doing illogical, moronic things for 2 hrs. I somehow find it more unbelievable that 2 Miami cops can afford designer clothes and fancy cars on their union pay.
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That was Revenge Of The Fallen (and I'm surprised Bay didn't actually GET a train wreck into that movie) I have zero interest in another Transformers movie. As AsimovLives put it. Fuck Michael Bay.
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I don't blame them.
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Ok, how do you REALLY feel about Michael Bay? Hahahahaha.
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All his black characters in all his movies are black-faced ministrel level type characters, including the leads. And it's not just his hidden racism that cames across from his movies, but also one of the most extreme cases of in-the-closet hidden gay in the whole of Hollywood. Bay makes Pedro Almodovar and John Waters look like Lee Marvin/Charles Bronson-like tough macho men in comparison.
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They aren't here yet to make a presence felt yet
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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What happened to BB3??!! http://sickpicks.blogspot.com/
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Watched Revenge Of The Fallen a couple of days ago. Love action movies, and have enjoyed most of Mr Bay's work up to now (excluding Transformers #1) and thought at the very least I'd be in for some good special effects. Yawn! Dull, dull, dull, dull and DULL! But hey, it made loads of cash, so bring on the third!!!!
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I would rather have Michael Bay sent in a rocket into the Sun and see him die a bad death... while getting fucked in the ass during the whole trip.
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he's got Hasbro's Marketing and Product Development departments to collaborate with.
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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As I understand the situation, they had to make a choice between TRANSFORMERS 3 and another STAR TREK film. They chose TREK.
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More like they are still locked in Bay's own shithouse and they won't leave it until they come up with a "script".
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Robots wrestling giant bears and walruses on Mt Rushmore in order to prevent the ultimate weapon hidden in George Washington's head from being used to destroy the source of all explosions... energy itself.
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So they chosed crap over shit.
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They took money to act like stereotypes in this movies. For shame.
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...gonna 'SPLODE!!!!! <p> The hate.... THE HATE!!!!
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it's 2 and half hours of Bay getting fucked in this fucking ass.
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that America is full of retards.
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Indeed.
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I mean what the hell else can transform that's big enough for Bay? Our minds?
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Haven't seen you around the past couple of days. Hope all is well.
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The Gay Bay, the Retard Jar Jar Abrams or the Madman Zemeckis. The mere notion that this fucks exists makes me want to puke!
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How you doing, friend? Well, i was well enough, until i was reminded that Michael "Pussy Ass" Bay is still around. And now i want to puke my guts out.
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You know it to be true. <p> Scorch the surface of the earth already, which ever diety got the shortnebula on babysitting duties. Please? <p> We're overdue.
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HE JUST DOESNT GET IT!! HE-JUST-DOESNT-GET IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT!!!!
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Perhaps the script suffered from serving too many masters? Sometimes one person with a quality vision can do better than a group. Not saying that's what we'll get. Just pointing out things unnecessarily.
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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And he wants to get this movie in before 2012. Bay... our path to destruction.
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Slow your pace a little- Merrick is good peoples but he may bring the ban hammer if you're just crazed. You're an institution here at AICN, I want you to stay put.
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Bogus, dude. Haven't seen TF2 yet, but that's out of fear. Is there even a fraction of a chance that these dickholes have realized the scope of the dark, demonic shit they took on Transformers & will make some reparations?
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That Michael Bay drives me to the drink. Fuck that fag ass fucking fuck. Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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oh man Bay's ideas for this movie are just mondo awesome, the designs of these transformers are gonna just blow your mind..think heat meets rocky meets ben hur<P>can't wait to sit down and find out more about the script from Bays and E-Krugs, i'll let you guys in on any secrets i find out
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until we get a "Transformers" reboot?
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Merrick is like Mr Beaks without the pretense of intellectualism... i'm very thankful for that small mercy.
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I plead for leniency on his behalf.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST
OK, i see that the GAY FOR BAY crowd is slowly assembling here
by AsimovLives
I was wondering what was taking them so long.
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Tezcal blanco, to be exact.
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I hope I hope I HOPE there are dinobots in this one. Also, I hope Megan Fox gets raped and swallowed alive by one of the dinobots. Also, I hope the movie ends with LaBeef drowning in a robot golden shower.
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He and I locked horns years ago, which was pretty much my fault. But he's a fucking mensch, a true gentleman.
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I'm affraid you will have to take like 10 mores years until you get a reboot of Transformers. which means some of the fans will be in their 50s already.
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If you say so, i believe.
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Fucking crap!
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A whole movie with robot dinosaurs. No humans, no script. Just dinos walking around, stepping on things, etc.
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no one cares
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Tequilla is James Cameron's favorite drink. I'm drinking in hommage and to remind myself of a true action movie filmmaker.
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Too true. And by then, the idea of an actual movie will be so diluted by special effects that the end result will be even shittier than the original. But Bay will still direct it. And LaBeouf will be coming out of rehab just to take up the mangle of Sam again. Hot Dog! Plus they can probably find Megan Fox in a ditch somewhere and give her work again.
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I don't believe it. Course, it was a quick turnaround for T1 and T2.
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How about spending more than three seconds with the ones you slightly introduced in the first movie...There is an entire CAST of Transformers that you completely neglected in TF 2 just so you could spend time with the cursing racial twins...C'mon man, about the only good thing about TF2 aside from the FX was soundwave...that's it...and I liked TF1...but ya lost me on TF2...
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I woudlnpt expect a different attitude form somebody who has a nick after Zardoz. That alone makes you awesome and cool. Clearly you are your own man, and not some hype slave.
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at least it does so far. the original story for part 2 also had dino bots making an appearance, so them being in Bay's original pitch doesn't mean we will see them on screen. But i will say that his idea for having the dinobots in this movie is more connected to the main plot then they were in part 2, so that increases the chances of seeing them<P>and i can confirm that dino bot designs were discussed at the meeting bay had with ILM
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If you had been a teenager in the 80s, like i was, it looked like it took ages between The Terminator and Terminator 2.
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...they need to sit down for another year and keep working on the story. Fuck, those movies are brain numbingly dumb.
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Am I the onely one who is aware that the new Nightmare on Elm Street trailer is online and has been since Tuesday? Where'sthe AICN coverage on that?!?
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Transformers: Cum on my face
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Didn't he complain to the media that no one appreciated how much work it took to make one of these films? I'm guessing someone stroked his ego and he agreed to do it.<p>Transformers 2 upped the ante in several regards, but had a weak ending. The "Fallen" was dead in two seconds. The massive Devastaor thing got taken out in one shot as well. None of the fights in the movie lasted more than a second or two.<p>The film did look very good in IMAX. I just wish we would have seen one good fight seen, anywhere in the film. If the point of the film is mindless action, then you have to bring the action.
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Thats like the story I read where Kurosawa bought the same hat John Ford would always wear because he admired Ford so much.
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...they'll keep making these. Stop supporting Michael Bay if you want this nightmare to end.
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... sucks ass!
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Not that this is news to anyone. If you're bullshitting, you're a retard and if you're telling the truth you're an even bigger retard. Here's hoping you're just a pathological lying friendless 13 year old with chronic ADHD rather than someone partly responsible for these shitty movies because if so may Ridley Scott have mercy on your soul.
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makes them right. Bring it on, Mike.
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Kurosawa is my kinda man! I'm yet to find the same type of shorts that Christopher Nolan wears.
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I want to see Megan Fox's cooch in 3D!!!
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Bay's complaisn was about fucking money. He wanted more. He was forcing negotiations. Money is the only thing that Bay loves... exclusing big fat dicks up his fucking ass.
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Actually a year-and-a-half.
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No doubt it's a story that involves fart gags, Megan Fox oiled up, product placement and as little as possible to do with the source material.<br><br> Fuck off, Bay. You've failed to make a Transformers film twice already, you won't get it right a third time without totally rebooting and hiring some good writers.
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experiencing random chest hair growth...
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Admittedly both Transformers films were extremely flawed, and I'm not here to defend them, but I swore I kept reading all the haters here saying they'd never watch the first. Then they shelled out money to see it. They complained they didn't like it. So they bought the BluRay and watched it some more. And then they swore they'd never see the sequel. Then they complain that they didn't like the sequel.<p>Obviously they are liars who keep throwing money at the franchise, which is precisely why we're getting a third installment.
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A man so close to the production, he spends his time on talkbacks.
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He does too much cocaine yet he still manages to "complete" a "movie".. btw, fucktard bay just described exactly the symptoms I get when I tried to watch one of his shitty flicks. Dizzines, suicidal tendencies and I swear I could feel my IQ drop by the minute
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shit explodes, lots of unfunny comedy happens, a slutish actress with big boobs leans to the camera, and some limited talented young turk comedian pretends he's actionhero material. And then shits explodes some more and too many CGI crap that nobody can understand follows. All of that shit writen in a napkin by the most abused hack "writers" in Hollywood.
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The understatment of the year.
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I'll be the first to admit- I loved the first, hated hated HATED the second, and I'm already preparing to buy tickets to the third.
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Should I DVR it when it premieres on cable in about a year?
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The sad thing is, you're probably right. I watched the first one, and I haven't seen the second. But people have. It grossed a shit-load of money, and regardless of it's lack of story telling, or it's ability to offend so many -- both through character and story -- people went out and watched it in flocks, so there's no way that that third one wouldn't be made. It could end up being two and a half hours of giant robots oiling up Michael Bay, with the occasional shot of Megan Fox in a bikini, and it would still make a shitload of money. It really speaks to what moviegoers want. They don't want complicated, involved stories -- stories that make viewers think. They want mindless shit. And they'll get it in droves with this movie.
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And I'll start this shit off proper professional...FUCK YOU MICHAEL BAY!
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Oct. 1, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST
Rodimus Prime will now be a stereotypical Italian Mother
by Disney_Retcond_my_STD
2011 what a fucking rush job, thankfully this will be the last 'formers ever.
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I didn't have a problem with the story they went with. I had no problem with adding in tons of characters. I didn't think the movie was racist. (It didn't suggest all Blacks fit stereotypes. In fact, there was a strong Black character played by Tyrese that didn't fit stereotypes.)<p>I just thought for an action flick, the action was disappointing.
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He thinks its a gimmick, and will not make a 3D movie. But then again, he changed his mind before.
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two dogs fucking....twice <p> Spinning camera shots whenever Shitta Lepoof and Megan Cox had "intimate moments" <p> Shia Lebouf screaming "BUMBLE BEEEEEE!" like a little bitch <p> Amped up "Mother" character to the point of What the Fuck? <p> Shia Laboof screaming like another bitch <p> Devastator's Balls....WTF? part 2 <p> Oh, the robots were cool.
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Good for you old man!
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People want a spectacle, regardless of quality. They'll appreciate it more if it's good, but they'll show up in droves either way. Best case study: Transformers 2 vs. The Dark Knight= one of the worst reviewed films of the year vs. one of the best reviewed films of all time. TDK made more, but not much more.
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Great point.
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There are audiences for Twilight and there are audiences for Lost. I try not to get all upset that stupid shit like Twilight (or Transformers) makes a bunch of money. I prefer complex, deep stories such as Lost.<p>I also think it is possible to turn off your brain and appreciate a good action flick. Most of the action films of the 80's didn't need much in the way of story. Bay historically has been very good at blowing things up. Ultimately this is a franchise based off a cheesy cartoon to sell toys. Honestly, I think Bay is perfect for this material.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST
Yeah well the skipped a year dedicated to SCRIP WRITTING
by ricarleite2
And are shooting whatever the fuck Michael Bay thinks to be cool. He realized tha THOSE IDIOTS WHO PAYED TO SEE THAT FUCKING CRAP DO NOT CARE FOR CHARACTERS OR STORY OR WHATEVER! DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!
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It's just people speaking the truth.
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see bizarroAsimovlives list and add: •Big ass plot holes • Too many forgettable, unnecessary characters • Nothing meant anything- we see Megatron easily coming back to life three minutes before they kill off Optimus- am I supposed to be worried? • I can go on and on
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They were just in the background too much, they played second fiddle to bad acting and stupid ass jokes. It felt like at times Bay was saying fuck you to the audience with some of the visuals he put on screen. Two dogs fucking... really?
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The second is even worst. Can't even imagine the degree of awfulness that a 3rd can achieve. Only Bay can.
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his entire career.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST
Believe me or not, that doesn't change that i know inside detail
by JettL93
I have been involved with this production for a while and i'm more then happy to share scoops, you know from the past that i have offered up alot of juicy info opn several projects<P>And you guys give Bay a hard time, he's honnestly one of the coolest guys you'll ever meet and despite your rantings, he does have a passion for the source material and he's onlyaiming to please movie goers, so stop making fun of him, he's a human just like you
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Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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After #2, I'm done. I went in hoping it would be better, thinking the first one wasn't THAT bad. And the constant flow of money from people with the "I gotta see it no matter the quality" mentality, and people just liking crap will ensure continued sequels. I don't think I can take another one.<p>And as for a potential G.I. Joe sequel? I just don't think I have the strength...
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So, you are one of the people i should blame for the fucking horrible retarded bulslhit that is the Transformers movie? Your efforts helped the creation of this terrible fucking movie,s and the continuation of a carrer of a terrible stupid untalented fucking hack. So, with all my heart, i tell you: fuck you, buddy.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST
Quentin Tarantino just announced KIll Bill: Vol 3...
by The Fly on the Wall
on Italian television!!! He will begin work on it in a couple of years because he "wants ten years to have passed from the last film so the Bride has a decade of peace after what she just went through". This is fucking sequel news!!! Not this Transformers 3 shit.
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You know what it is you're engaging in here, right? Starts with a "T" and ends with "rolling?" <p> Let me quote from Cameron's letter to the Terminathions, chapter 2... "We need to be a LITTLE more constructive here, okay?" <p> Or, hell, maybe not. I suppose MCMXVIII has made a talkback career out of Bay trolling.
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And she still looks fucking great. It hasn't been that long since the original films came out, anyway. Tarantino will get her kicking ass again.
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Telling Michael Bay to fuck off is constructive.
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That I am going to keep mentioning the badass-ness of KILL BILL: VOL. 3 until it overshadows the Bay piece of shit in all of its glory.
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You're Fucking Micheal Bay..... <p> aren't you? <p> We'll? <p> ANSWER ME DAMMIT!
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Thats you opinion, what a pathetic loser that you think a movie you disliked is the worse thing to happen to humanity...it's amovie buddy, if you didn't like the work we did on it then fuck off and don't pay to see it<P>it's clear from the 400 million plus domestic take that people went and came back to see the movie
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gives me hope for the future of humanity.
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I was worried about having to wait until 2012 to see Michael Bay continue his vision... Hopefully he can raise the bar like he did this year...
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After hearing all the hate thrown at Bay for Transformers 2, and me having enjoyed how over the top it was, I've decided it's bothering everyone because it is avant garde, revolutionary filmmaking. Transformers 2 was ahead of its time and it seems most just can't take it. 20 years from now it will be considered a classic.
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Keep Bay occupied with endless Transformers and Bad Boys sequels....then we don't have to worry about him fucking up anything that's potentially good!<p>For this one - can we have more crude humor, please?! I want to see more ethnic stereotype 'bots, and 'MECHA' innuendo! good, wholesome family fun!
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...the first Tarantino zombie movie? Or is she just attracted to abusive guys named Bill?
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He doesn't deserve anyone's money and attention.
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Actually I was referring to Transformers 1 and 2. Typing in the phone while driving is notthe smartest move on my part.
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I wish i was michael bay that guy is so cool, he's awesome to hang out with and everybody likes him, he's also one of the more underrated directors of our time. plus he's funny and gets all sorts of ladies<P>i wish i was him but i am in no way him at all
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His cocaine & hooker habit is rife.
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Is that 'Kill the Bride' he's talking about? I'm sure we'll see that - straight after the Kill Bill anime prequels, his Mandarin kung fu movie, Inglourious Basterds prequel and sequel, his remake of Faster, Pussycat, Kill Kill!!, Vega Bros., and his John Brown slave movie - ie. NEVER.
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What do you do on the production?
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Oct. 1, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST
JettL93...You Forget to mention Hookers and BlackJack!
by bizarroAsimovlives
I'm quite sure it was enough to go around after you stole that 400 million from the box office...Mr. Bay
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talk to the SPECIAL EFFECTS guys for 5 HOURS then talk to the TOY MAKERS. well that says it all...
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name to this series? Incredible.
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Michael Bay sits alone in an interrogation room, when Nolan and Cameron come in and make fun of his retarded filmmaking techniques for 2 and a half hours. Bay cries. Roll credits.
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Is fly to hasbro to figure out what toys they can sell with this movie. First toys, then script.
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It's completely baffling that they thought that would fly in 2009.
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Bay's films have made more money than Cameron's and Nolan's.
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i could do no worse than they did last time round.
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Thanks to Paramount for shoving Captain America into late July instead of giving it the most obvious release date possible. Let's celebrate the most patriotic day of the year with the sequel to Transformers 2.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST
JettL93, I'm quite sure Mike B is as cool as the Fonz....
by bizarroAsimovlives
That however, does not justify making a disappointing movie. The visuals with the robots were amazing in some parts while confusing in others and the destruction was on point to the way his blown shit up on a massive scale throughout his career. <p> But damn... <p> Could somebody at least had been honest about the script?
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Oct. 1, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST
Megan swallowed hard as she approached the all too familiar door
by conspiracy
"funny", Megan thought, "I've swallowed a lot of things in my life...but I'll never get used to the taste of swallowing my pride no matter how often I've done it" She was depressed...the complete failure of 'Jennifers Body' had forever assured her place as cheap fuck toy for men like Bay, nothing but tits and ass to put on screen for lonely men and little boys to jack off too as they watched fucking robots fight and hump her leg. Megan sighed, she wanted to cry. Grasping the door knob with her manly hands, she took a deep breath...turned it..and walked in.</p><p> As usual, the scent of pot, sweat and sex hung heavy in the air..., it always smelled like this in his office when Bay was amping up for a movie, Michael always did liked doing the "auditions" on the spot. "I wonder who that poor bitch was" she asked herself as she noticed a pool of sweat, traces of blood and cum on Bays big leather couch, "maybe it was Dakota..I heard she was up to play my little sister in this fucking mess" She walked on, past the all too familiar casting couch, and farther into Michaels inner sanctum..the place where ideas and dreams were taken, destroyed and reassembled into profit.</p><p> Megan knew that today was different...no "Audition" as such for her, she already had the part. No..this was something different...a scene that had yet to be played out; she knew this was going to be bad when Bay had called her and given her the ultimatum.."you have two choices in this business Megan...I can kill off your character and know I'll be able to order your cunt for $100 an hour, like I was ordering a Pizza in 6 months; or I can keep her in the film and give you another 12 months of relative fame,...you decide what thats worth to you. You want it? Then come to the office...alone as usual. And fuck yourself up a little...take some fucking Demerol or something...I don't need you screaming too loud" She walked on..a little uneasy...she knew Michaels tastes...and knew this was going to be a orugh fucking night. Then she saw him...Bay stood near the massive glass wall...his silhouette outlined by the lights of L.A. behind him...a glowing cherry from the lit joint in his hand flared as he took a big drag..revealing his sweat covered face, a form lay crumped at his feet. "Nice too see you Megan he said...was just getting warmed up..care to join us"
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Oct. 1, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST
"Some side effects can occur, such as mild dizziness, intense na
by SpyGuy
Michael, that's what happens to your audiences after watching your shitty excuse for direction. If the actors also feel that way, perhaps you should make a career change to something to suit your personality better...like the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
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So that settles that. Strike while the iron is hot and so forth. I didn't completely hate the 2nd Transformers flick (I quite like the 1st one), the 2nd movie is extremely flawed and extremely stupid and extremely annoying in many places. But, in other places, Optimus Prime tears off a robot's face and then punches it through the chest. That makes it at least okay entertainment. Fer crissakes, it was better than GI Joe!
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And you guys wanna bash him for his meeting with ILM when he's flying out with the screenwriter later? I honk you should give him a break on that one.
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I consult on scripts and effects meetings and i'm also involved with design. helping to desing the tumbler for batman begins is how i sparked a working relationship with chris nolan (we had been childhood aquaintances but had never worked together before). As for transformers i was brought on for the second film to opinionate the script as well as assist second unit shooting (you'll see me on the Transformers 2 DVD and bluray extras, so be sure to pick it up october 27th
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Damn this iPhone autocorrect! I mean, "honk"?
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Unicron turns up to eat the Earth but is distracted by Michael Bay's own sense of self worth, which is way bigger. Unicron eats Bay, gets a wicked spot of heartburn and then explodes. The world rejoices. Megan Fox is so happy she gives me a lapdance. Roll credits.
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What's a matter, Bob? Paramount wouldn't let you ruin two franchises simultaneously?
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The 1st was one of the worst movies I ever saw. Who would want to see 2? And from what I heard, 3 will be a mess too.
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A second unit assistant who also designed the tumbler AND gave script notes on Transformers 2. Wow. shovel on the bullshit, kid.
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That would mean you're partially responsible for that train wreck? Please correct me if I'm assuming. <p> They must had paid you well to own up to that one.
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Think OH My meets THAT SOUNDS meets TERRIBLE.
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Do you think that Bay has the balls to do the Unicron storyline??? All he has to do is follow the animated move? Probably cost 300 million to make but hell they can make that back in 1 week world wide. I think and Shia and Megan Fox's characters have run their course for the franchise. God forbid their child has a role in the next film!!! Unicron storyline or bust!!!!!!!
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The script was not as solid as we wanted it, it's not spoke of because of the films finacial success but yes the writers stike fucked us up big time you can make a movie no problem in two years but throw a work stoppage in there and the end result won't be what you want <P>if the movie had failed then members of the production team would have been more vocal about the script but after opening weekend he all just agreed to keep mum on the topic. Transformers 3 is going to be more similar to the story style of the first film, thats is, 3 or 4 stories intertwined and culminating in an epic action denuemont<P>and yes make fun of me for inputting into the transformers 2 script, but i also did an uncredited rewrite on the dark knight script as well as my story ideas are the basis for the batman 3 script currently being finished as we speak
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As usual -- conspiracy = instant talkback WIN.
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Great story! Can't wait to find out who is at his feet!
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You boys cant even imagine what surprises i have for your favorite robot franchise,in the third movie. <p>But apart from the suprises,i would like to say that i took into heavy consideration some of the critics i received from the so much respected fandom,and i am here to say that i will look into your suggestions and try to fix some mistakes of the last movie. <p>So sleep well,dont get anxious about the awesomeness of the new movie,everything will be super,so super that i might even dare to say that one,two or even three oscars wont be an impossible achievement for my new robot movie. <p>Just wait and you will start.Oh and start gathering money from now,for the tickets,new toys,new blurays etc etc <p>With love Michael 'the bot' Bay
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...(chuckling, playfully) "noho you don't...he he he"
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What's the difference? A mustache?
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cant wait for the what happens next
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actually support this and pay to see it you are fools! Fools I say! Bay is such a fuckin' hack, I'll never understand the brainless morons who actually like his "films". Time to end this shit already and send a message, don't go see it, period.
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Given that the 2nd film was written sometime during the writer's strike, Perhaps the writing will improve this time around.
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A compilation of your credits: Designer on the Tumbler for Batman Begins, Rewrites on The Dark Knight, Story contributor on the sequel, Rewrites on Transformers 2, Second unit assistant on T2. Wow. I've been working at a studio for close to a decade now and I've never heard of someone so diverse. Who's your agent?
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And you can prove this how?
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headmasters in the franchise.Megan Fox operating her own transformer,maybe Arcee.jesus.
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Please, for the love of Obama, let this be the last Transformers movie (at least made by Bay!)
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Let Bay have his 'trilogy'. Then let him fuck off and make Fag Boys 3 and we can forget these movies ever happened.<P>After Bay, we can finally have this franchise rebooted: Transformers Begins.<p>Bring in Simon Furman as a consultant.<p>Hire a director who actually loves this franchise the way Jackson loved Tolkien's work, the way Sam Raimi loved Spider-Man and the way Del Toro loved Hellboy.<P>Maybe then we'd finally get a worthwhile sci-fi epic that actually lives up to the majesty of the concept.
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...is the Supershadow of AICN talkback. Hell, he might even be THE Supershadow.
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I believe that Michael Bay can snort cocaine off some cheap hookers, and make a film that will seriously fuck your eardrums.
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zoomed in our face.Ok i might expect that from him in a Coen film,but not in a fucking movie about Transformers.I think Turturo has lost the respect to himself.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST
Conspiracy owned "I swallowed a lot of things..."
by Disney_Retcond_my_STD
Hey JettL93 take your PA ass back to Bay and tell him to put Conspiracy's scene in the movie
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Will Shia Lebouf be skiing down the side of a skyscraper to the tune of "you got the touch" (sung by nickelback)..in this abortion of a trilogy
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great movies,they werent very faithful to the original source,many were changed or added to acquire a more commercial appeal. <p>Only Cameron is capable of combining spectacle,action,drama,scifi and romance in his movies.I hope there is an alternate timeline where he is the one who has made the transformers movies and not Bay.
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I like old school Transformers as much as any other pop-culture infused child of the 80's, but let's not kid ourselves about the "majesty" of the concept of alien robots that turn into cars and jets and dinosaurs. I fully expect to come to this site in 10 years and read passionate screeds about how Ratner completely missed the subversive brilliance of the Jungian archetypes inherent in the hero's journey mythos of the goddamn Power Rangers.
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I actually loled when I read "Maybe then we'd finally get a worthwhile sci-fi epic that actually lives up to the majesty of the concept." lol. Sorry dude, I loved the Transformers growing up as much as the next guy, but there's no "majesty" to the concept of giant robots that transform into vehicles fighting each other.
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the lime light was nenver my style, Bay suggested i go into directing but i refuse, thats too much spotlight on me, i'd rather just give my input of scripts and stuff and let my work speak for itself, someone jokinly said i should go up and accept Health oscer for him, i'm so glad his family did it for me. I was filmed dusring the making ofs on transformers 2 (or as we on production called it "Trans to the 2 dot") so go out an buy the DVD and bluray on october 27th if you want to see me
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Robotech,macross,gundam,voltron and so on.damn those robots fighting each other...
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Was the Megan Fox gratuitous ass shot on top of the motorcycle while airbrushing. <p> Who's idea was that? <p> You guys didn't have time to consult with an airbrush artist before you shot that? if you did you would've known it was physically impossible to spray that way. <p> First the paint would've ran, "drip" so to speak, making it difficult to control while attempting to shade in an area. <p> Second, Where's the hose leading to the compressor? If she was really "working" like that she would've been wrapped up in the damn thing. <p> I personally used airbrushes for over ten years. Although it was cool to see her using one and I like ass shots as much as next guy. But if Megan Fox can't sell her sexiness through her acting, ship her to Maxim magazine, Now. <p> It was also a sign of things to come in that badly written movie that used dog jokes and "Sam Screaming" as 75 percent of the dialogue. I can't accept the excuse of a writer's strike having an effect on the outcome of this movie. I blame laziness, lack of common sense and obvious ass kissing.
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elses,taking advantage of the web's anonymity,try not to use the 'I' a lot.Talking all the in the first person,about your achievements,well is a big giveaway of your deceit.Just do it with an indirect way.cheers.
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Bravo, I say I say, bravo! If there was a talkback Oscar, you'd get my nomination. <p> Speaking of which, I can't wait for the Hobbit and the return of Pud and his war against Orcish racism.
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Seriously, when your characters are being attacked by ten-story-tall robots, have them actually act SCARED and not be cracking jokes while shrapnel is flying past their skulls. Even if it's based on a comic book, these are life and death situations for these characters - have them act that way. The levity can come at more appropriate times. The biggest weakness (other than the script) for the Transformers was the exact same weakness as Independence Day had, although that script was weak too. Heck, it's the same weakness pretty much ALL of Bay's movies have. Treat the material with respect and the money will roll in even faster than the others. Look at The Dark Knight. There was humor there, yes, but it was done in an appropriate manner. Oh, and look how much money THAT movie made. See what I'm saying, Bay? Seriously, there's more to a movie than special effects. Those are used to ENHANCE the movie, not drive it.
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the sript is almost done, D-tor and I just finished wrapping up our jam sessions
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Having some fun with the fanboys.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST
JettL93 and the retard agument to support a movie: box office
by AsimovLives
How to spot a retard? Easy. They are the ones qwho equate box office with a movie's quality. This idiots must think that money is God's own juice on Earth.
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has zero taste! Boo-yah!!!
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How about bringing in some new characters. Keep Sam if you have too, but don't drag everyone back. Also, can we finally see Cyberton?
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That fucking pussy is here! Hysterical!
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lol. Can someone tell bay and Fox to get a Room. The sexual tension between them is killing me.
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About how you and the "Bay bunch" pulled one of the biggest heist in Entertainment history when you snatched 400 million dollars from the Box Office. <p> I can hear one of your meetings now. <p> " I'm telling you man, "sniff" we fucking put that audib--autto-ma- hey Jet! what's the name of that shit again? Um--Autbots Mi-- <p> Yeah Yeah Autobots---we put that logo on a poster we'll be rich by morning! <p> Jet93 looks at his watch, It's 11:00 am Mike. <p> Don't badger me motherfucker! Now go get me some more coke!
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NOT ANOTHER BAY TALKBACK...IT'S TOO SOON. NOW EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO BE COOL ONLINE WILL BE UP IN ARMS.. THIS SITE IS SO FULL OF FAN BOYS TALKING NOTHING BUT HATE THAT ANY CHANCE OF YOUR VIEWS BEING TAKEN LEGITIMATELY ARE NIL EVEN GOOD MOVIES.. THE TALK BACKS BELITTLE. ASK 13 YEAR OLD BOYS IF TF WAS THE "WORST MOVIE THEY HAVE EVER SEEN" YOU KNOW, THE SAME 13 YEAR OLD BOYS THAT WATCHED THE ORIGINAL SHOW AND PLAYED WITH THE TOYS... YES BAY IS A misogynist YET THIS VERY SITE GIVES SHIT LIKE CRANK 2 THUMBS UP BAY IS A RACIST WHILE SOUTH AFRICA WON'T LET DISTRICT 9 BE PLAY IN THEIR THEATERS DUE TO HOW BLACK PPL ARE MADE OUT TO LOOK. YOU WANT RACISM IN CINEMA LOOK NO FURTHER THAN INGLORIOUS BASTARDS. TF 3 WILL BE HUGE...AS HUGE AS TF2 WAS GOING TO BE IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT 2ND ACT. HOW CAN YOU SAY TF IS ABOUT NOTHING BUT CRAZY STUPID ACTION DRIVEN PLOT AND JOKES AND CRANK 2 GETS HIGH SCORES??? AGENDA ANYONE?
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Respectfully, I disagree.<P>There are certain concepts that seem to be timeless and universal in the capture of our imaginations. Dinosaurs, extra-terrestrials, light sabers and 'Giant Transforming Robots' to name a few.<p>Try not to base your expectations of what a Transformers movie could be on the basis of Bay's two utterly appalling fuck ups.<P>And don't even get me started on the missed oppertunity of Power Rangers. ;)
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i never said that means its a great movie but from a studio and a production standpoint a film like tranformers 2 is a huge sucess, and your a retard if you think it isn't, you obviously not in the movie business , money equels profits meaning bigger paychecks. There are very few people in the business we call show who are in it just for the passion, and if they are they are the ones who are dirt poor and you've never heard of them before
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Bay's Publicist <p> LOLOLOLOLOL
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Is fucking legendary. Hats off. Keep 'em coming.
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Fuck.
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was it you who added "the twins" to TF2 and the swat team van dialogue to dark knight?
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As it's been said before, there's been over 20 years of Transformers fiction, much of which has vastly expanded the mythos. If you demand Star Trek or Star Wars stories that respect & possibly expand the best of the source material, you can demand the same for Transformers, toyline be damned. The Transformers backstory is full of political unrest, gladatorial combat, creationism, universal conquest, social upheaval, etc.
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I really enjoy watching you wind everybody up, but come on man, saying you were told to accept Ledgers Oscar is going overboard
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It's going to be a long night of revisions and rewrites!
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Wearing rags of the damn you michael bay t-shirt.
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HOW DARE YOU TRY TO WEASEL OUT OF YOUR TB DUTY TO BE A PRICK!! Nah, I agree, there could definitely be a thoughtful giant transforming robot movie... Ang Lee managed to make Hulk into something more than simply "HULK SMASH!" But I already got everything I wanted from a TF movie (with regards to "majesty") back in the 80's with the animated one. For me, any attempt to top that by throwing money at Bay is inevitably going to fail, because you can't catch that kind of lightning in a bottle twice... or something. This stuff is just nostalgia/effects porn. <p> And Daniel Day Lewis should play the White Ranger!
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Listen, you pussy, i don't give a fuck about a mvoie's box office. I give a fuck about it0'squality. I pay to watch a movie, i want a good one. That is all that fucking matters. It«'s slave ass pussies like you who must think that box office is some mandate from Heaven that awards excelency with cash. It's not! Shit can turn sucessful. Shit can win at the box office. It has happen before, it will happen in the future. Why, nobody knows. Only stupid ass retards think that box office is any indication of merit. And only a retard fuck like the Gay for Bay jerk-offs would sport that kind of idea. Basically, supporters of Bay = retards.
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See the spectacle of Gays For Bay sucking their favorite hack's balls. Truer enemies of cinema there aren't.
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a shitty movie that makes a studio millions in profit will not be seen as a sucess from said studio?<P>Funny people was a better movie then transformers was (hey i can be honnest) but do you think for a second Universal is content in that...no of course not they would of much rather had the big bang robot movie that made over 700 million instead of a sweet comedy that critics loved<P>thats why every toy and game you loved as a child is being spun into a movie franchise, because the studios are a business, Nobody wants to have the same misfortune Orion had or that MGM is having now
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I'll get back to work asap..lol
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"There are very few people in the business we call show who are in it just for the passion, and if they are they are the ones who are dirt poor and you've never heard of them before." <p> In other words, are you saying that if you are a passionate director or writer you will not succeed in Hollywood? Are implying they have to be a money hungry, HACK, ass kisser such as yourself?
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Long time reader, first time poster. Usually reading these talkbacks makes me want to punch a kitten (why all the hate? Damn!)... but with Transformers and Michael Bay... I gotta say, it's warranted. The guy can be the coolest person ever (per JettL93) but it doesn't change that he can't make a good film to save his life. Example: I play guitar. And I'm pretty damn good. I also love drums, but I suck. I've tried for years and years and years to get better at them, but it's just not in my DNA. It doesn't matter how much I want to play drums, it doesn't make me a good drummer. Ok, maybe not the best example. But I think you get the idea. Bay can love the source material all he wants (and to those who say "its just a bunch of toys"... you have never looked at the potential in the actual story. Try again. That excuse is really old), but it doesn't change that he is not the right person for this job. The hate is warranted, IMO. And no, I've never seen the 2nd TF movie. Nor will I ever. TF1 was just too awful.
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Yes the first two made buttloads of money however I think with all the negative press and reviews the sequel got not to mention Megan Fox trashing Michael Bay, TF 3 will completly bomb. As much as I hate remakes I can't wait for someone to remake Transformers and G.I. Joe.
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Listen, retar,d i don't give a shit about the sucess. Gettid? I give a shit about THE QUALITY. You know what quality is? Of couse you don't, you work for Michael Untalented Piece of Shit Bay, how could know? You suck his balls, how could you even compreend tyhe concept of quality. Go suck Bay's cock, man, that's what is what you really do at his set, if your posting and your adoration for that fucking piece of shit hack is any indication. Fucking unbelievable, man!
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I think the sad costumers are the ones keeping the Potter films in business by this point.
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How to I post without it being a wall of text (sorry about that, guys)? Do I need to use HTML tags?
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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You already proved, many times, that there isn't a bad movie you don't like. We got it already.
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The multitude of shit.
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It was not crossing the line when i said it was suggested that i accept Heath's Oscar, i helped to shape the joker character in the script and it was even my idea to have the glascow smile (although i wanted it just on one side, like joker was only half smiling, i was vetoed). I knew Heath and he probabaly would have wanted someone involved in production to accept the award, he after all did say his performance was a collabrotive effort. I don't like the limelight and could never in a million years get up infront of all those people so i turn down the offer, nolan agreed to but the academy said they wanted a family member to accept if heath won
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Yeah, right!
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but you morons make it out to be the worst experience of anyone's life... why are the bay talk backs so notorious? if the movie was so "un enjoyable" why isn't it in Superman Returns no money Limbo? more people see it than just you haters lol
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OMG! You went a whole post without slamming Trek or JJ Abrams.
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I've been thinking pretty much everything you've said. All I've gotta do is sit back and read your posts. Saves me a lot of typing. HAHA, hilarity. Good show.
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...Megan's here gagging on my knob and she wanted to know what you all were writing about the Transformers 3 news. So I told her and she's really pleased there's so much Michael Bay hate going on. AsimovLives, I think she's in love with you, dude. Anyway, back to concentrating on some really fine head...
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JettL93 is full of shit when he claims that. It's obvious that, IF JettL93 is who he claims to be (which is extremely doubtful), then he's using AICN to exercise some extreme sycophancy, in the hopes that Micahel Bay reads it and takes notice. Fucking pathetic, both cases.
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Your the retard for thinking that a thoughtful and great story has to be a box office bomb, several great movies have gone on to make shit loads of money, perhaps the chunk of your brain that control reasoning was left on the coat hanger after your mom's failed abortion?<P>nive speling by the way
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I aim to please.
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So? You want to be start it, is that it? There's a direct link to the matter of Bay, you know, since your beloved Jar Jar Abrams was one of the wroters of the retarded abomination that is Armageddon. Don't tempt me, dude.
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This guy is fucking GENIUS! I've never been able to write fiction in the first person narrative very well..but this guy has it down I'm telling ya.
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We're talking about the inability to put out a quality product. It amazes me how you guys have people eager to see this shit and you feed the viewer garbage with no conscious behind it. Because of "the numbers" <p> That's the way a drug dealer thinks. You don't care about the content of the crap you're feeding somebody, only the fact that it's selling. <p> Thus the reasons for all the remakes.
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You do not have a single idea in your mind, do you? All you have is sycophancy and this arrogante notion that everybody at AICN are giullible idiots like the Gay for Bay croud. Guess what, you are wrong, dick licker. Go suck Bay's ass!
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Fuck Michael Bay in his fucking ass.
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I think Jettl93 is actually Jett Travolta. In other words he's a dead retard.
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Let me take my brain out, stuff the cavity with popcorn and guffaw like Cletus the slack-jawed yokel!<p> Entertainment in its' purest form. Cocaine for the eyeballs.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 3 p.m. CST
GREAT, MORE TOILET HUMOR, RACISM AND MILITARY PROPAGANDA!!!
by CarlThorMark1978
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I'm so impressed with that no-brainer of an idea.
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in this economy its to risky to take a gamble on a thoughfull great story that may earn praises from critics but is going to equal low box office. This has been going on in hollywood for almost a decade, ilegal pirating and downloading is hurting us. The reason we are seeing remakes and movies based on toys is because a movie like that will give you a guaranteed solid first weekend. Mvies are like any other business the strive for profits is what drives it and keeps it in business, you would blame a factory for cutting corners to save a few pennies...well in movie terms a few pennies equals a few million
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You want to see great explosions used very well in a movie, go watch THE HURT LOCKER, by Kathryn Bigelow. That's how explosions are used for dramatic effects. Michael Fucking Pussy Faggot Ass Bay can't shoot explosions for shit, and that's his only "talent" that faggot has. I would rather trust Woody Allen to make a movie with exposions then that pussy ass Bay! Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass. With explosions.
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EVERY SINGLE TIME.
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As far as blockbuster directors go, there it is. Sorry Singer fans.
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I actually have creative work to do, Chris Nolan needs my opinion on some Bat wing desings...opps did i let that slip, well ok that one is free the rest are gonna cost you, i'll be back at somepoint with somemore scoops
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At least that would have lent this entire Transformers saga something funny and worthwhile to be remembered fondly for. Other than that, all this shit is garbage. Fuck everyone who made this successful.
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In this economy, it's COMPLETLY RETARD to make a mvoei so fucijgn expensive as the fuckign retard Tranasformers movie are and fuill that shit with lots of shit that makes no sense for the story and are complete fucking filler. If i was the head of the stuidio, i would hang Michael Bay by his balls, UPSIDE DOWN, at the gates of the studio, to teach that fucker not to over-spend my fuckign money on bullshit that has no porpose whatsoever, and box offcie be damned.<br><br>Michael Bay representas the worst case of over-spending and fiscal irresponsability there is in the whole of Holylwood. Only retarded Gays For Bay would disagree.
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Can ANYONE give me ONE instance of racism in TF2?!
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AHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!<br><br>Who actually believes this bullshit???? UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE!!!! THIS IS HYSTERICAL!!!
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please more racist bots! how about a whiny cheap jew autobot kikey? and double the amount of dog humping! could be the greatest movie ever
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I CUT YOUR fucking Quote out and PASTED IT into my comment. If anybody need to check they're spelling it's YOU. You're the one who said if you are passionate about you're work you are more than likely somewhere unknown and broke. <p> So fuck you..... <p> You're a writer and the best you can come up with is an abortion, brain matter and a coat hanger huh? <p> No wonder Transformers 2 sucks ass, look at the talent that's attach to it. Ass kissing must go REAL far in Hollywood. I wouldn't hire this prick to write a coloring book.
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You think i did? I just took an oportunity to piss on a GAY FOR BAY, while insulting Michael Fucking Pussy Bay in the process. It's called fun.
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What fucking racist bots?
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For Michael Bay, cinema = paycheck.
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Even if I want to believe you, when you post your "scoops" you come across as an egotistical bastard. Esp. with that whole "batwing" comment. So, you work in the industry and are buddies with Nolan - even if that's true, a professional wouldn't go toting it around on AICN. It's just silly and unnecessary. Don't you see how you just damage your credibility more and more with each post? Bah... nevermind. Deaf ears, I'm sure.
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Bay deserve all the trashing he can catch. Asi beat met to the exact anit-bay sentiments 4 hours ago.But no doubt I concur; fuck Bay,Orci and Kuntzman! Fucking ass-hack!
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You mean other than the minstrel act in the form of jive-talking, brawling twin robots with gold teeth and an aversion to reading?
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In all seriouness man, i think you need to get some help. At first I thought you were just winding people up but now i'm beginning to think you actually believe what you are saying.
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WILDLY SUCCESSFUL MOVIE THAT PANDERS TO UNEDUCATED AMERICAN DEMOGRAPHIC SPAWNS SEQUEL. NEWS AT 11.
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go to a bar. They fuck each other in the ass. The end.
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I don't have time to sit online all day. I have to go cup Meg's ass and decide how much trim should poke out the top of her panties. Some of us HAVE JOBS Y'KNOW!
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Polanski for sodomizing a 13 year old girl or Bay for his shitty and often stereotypical racist films? You be the judge.
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DEspistes some Gays for Bay in here, it's obvious that the majority of the posters here are no longer fooled or amused by the Michael Bay bullshit. If they ever were. This gives me hope for geekdom, and that i'm in the right place with my fellow movie compadres. I salute you, amigos.
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..now all we need is Borci to join in on the "fun".
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Oh - you mean Racial STEREOTYPES! THAT'S what everyone is jumping on the Righteous Bandwagon about?!<p> There's a difference between stereotyping and racism. Watch:<p> Stereotyping = jive-talking, brawling twin robots with gold teeth and an aversion to reading. Stupid - yes. Malicious - no, in the main.<p> Racism = Another robot turning to those two robots and saying, "Get the fuck away from me you black robotic twats. You can't roll with the Autobots, robo-niggers."<p> Was Jazz in the first film a stupid stereotype, or the product of malicious racism?
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Surely you jest. Those twin robots spoke in jive, had gold teeth, and looked like gorillas. Perhaps in the sugar coated whitebread universe where you reside this isn't considered racist? Is JFK still alive in your insane parallel world?
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Funny how the people that scream racist at movies, etc, are usually the biggest racists themselves.
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<p>Megatron: The humans must die!</p><p>Optimus Prime: They deserve the right to choose!</p><p>Me: To DIE? What the fuck? I think most people would choose NOT to die!</p>
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Considering that the whole story about Polanski is the result of a deranged judge who wanted fame for himself and so he comited crass injustices toward Polanski's case, and that EVERYBODY INVOLVED in Polanksi's accusation, from the victim to the prossecution office wanted a very light sentense, i'd say, it's Polanksi the good guy here. In fact, the prossecutuion office DVISED Polanski to leave country to escape the unfair and unlawful penalty that the corrupt judge passed on Polanski.<br><br>So, in trutnh, the real villain here is Michael Fucking Pussy Ass Bay.
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Really should pull their heads out of their arses and learn the difference between 'stereotypical' and 'racist'.<p> People are so shit-scared of being branded with the dreaded 'R' they see racism where there is none.
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Don't be retard! Those robots don't have independent existence. They are the result of the artistic decisions of people. People who are racists. Got it? You Gays for Bay, you better start thinking once and for all.
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Spielberg too. I vow to never see anything either of them make ever again.
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Admittedly I haven't seen the film, since I refuse to give Bay any more of my money after seeing TF1, but the people I know who saw it said it was pretty damn offensive. I mean, why would a fucking robot need grills?
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Vern, who is no pussy ass, he was EXTREMELY OFFENDED with the racism in display on Shitformers 2. I rather take his opiniion of what is racism displayed on a movie then the opinions of a mindless drone Gay for Bay, thank you very much.
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Lets get a poll going as to what stereotypes can be in the nest Bayformers movies. I want to start by adding the JewBot who tight with the autobots repair budget and the ChinaBot who says 'Flied Lice' a lot.
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That's a pretty stupid line to take...<p> Why would a robot need:<p> Lips.<p> Teeth.<p> etc, etc, etc, etc
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what she though of Michael Bay. Her replay was: "that fucking faggot, he should get his balls cut off."
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From Merriam-Webster: [racism is] "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"<br> <br> Bay's bots are portrayed and dumb and animal like, which we can all agree is clearly inferior to humans. Even if he doesn't BELIEVE it, he's still trafficking in it. It's ugly, and it's offensive, end of story.<br> <br> Look, it's a nitpicking thing, and it's almost moot considering all the other stupid shit in his films. Because honestly, we should all be offended by his movies for what they represent overall: the decline of cinema.
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It's the fury of rightiousness.
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Society. Instead the unwashed masses, flock to Bay's bombastic simple minded asscandy movies.
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"Vern, who is no pussy ass.."?<p># And you're calling me gay?! Sounds like you and your stained pictures of Vern should get a room...
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Psst. Reinforcing negative stereotypes of a race of people IS racism.
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And thus you proved you are retard... and a pussy.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST
ZARDOOOZZZZ!!! Oh and TRAnY 2 was gay bats shitting on Rotting C
by mattforce7
WHY oh WHY are we getting a third one. The first movie was great!! The second was utter crap
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How to spot them? Easy. They were not offended with the racism bullshit in SHITFORMERS 2.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST
"We Have a Great Transformers 3 Story?!? That's like saying:
by Particularly Hard Vato
We found a hot fat chick. No dice Michael Bay- no dice. One request though- can you make the brown people in it even more retarded sounding this time around? And of the love of fucking with MEgan Fox- please put her in a freaking' tiny bikini!
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"Bay's bots are portrayed and dumb and animal like" - but they speak and are on the side of the heroes?<p> Merriam-Webster also says this about racism: "Racial prejudice or Discrimination", but you neglected to quote that part, eh, Ricky?
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Terrible...Transformers 2 made it look like a masterpiece
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another inferior to his peer black character that....was said to not be able to read..damn that bay
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Apparently as long as she doesn't want to prosercute, it's A-OK! WOOO HOOOOO! Line them l'il bitches up it's time to SPLIT SUM WOOD!
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"Reinforcing negative stereotypes of a race of people IS racism." To a certain extent, yes. but does that apply here?<p> As I said - Jazz in the first film was a stereotype, but not negatively portrayed, or discriminated against in the film.
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instead of that GM bullshit in TF2.
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for a big name director to publicly mock his actress before working together. and even let his crew posted a letter trashing her. what you have to know about film crew is they are gossip mongers when they're not doing anything on the set. and they judge actors/actress only by whether they say hi to you or not. that's how petty most of them are.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST
REVENGE_of_FETT proves he's unedicated, retard, guillible
by AsimovLives
and he eats up all the bullshit that is fed to him unquestionably, like a mindless drone. Small wonder, he is Gay For Bay.
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If you are working on Batman, can you give Nolan my reinvention of Riddler idea as a hard-core ex-military special forces badass who flushes out hard to track criminals while ignoring rules of conduct, basically leaving broken bodies in his wake? The guy would have made hi name as "The Riddler" by posting riddles in a newspaper in the city where an urn caught serial killer was preying on people, and the riddles basically got him to committ more crimes, bu they caught him... so now he just breaks rules and procedure to find his prey- martial law in Gotham... he has an enforcer soldier guy named Bane... I think you get the picture.
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I guess script consulting doesn't require proper spelling and grammar these days. Good to know. I'll tell my 3 year old nephew to submit his resume to Bay and Co.
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Whater this guy (girl?) touches turns to shit. Hes fucking terrible and his style of writing is boring. Fuck this fucking guy,this movie is gonna feel like 5 hours of pure robot bullshit (much like transformers 2. Someone in h-wood needs to just go "Ehren,no,just,no".
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TO use a poker reference I'll see your Jazz and raise you Anthony Anderson tell me he was not the most racist thing on screen since Jar Jar.
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You beleive it was the crew who wrote that letter? It was Bay himself. It's quite evident. There's evne precedent in Bay's past actions of him pulling bulslhit to try to make somebody who rightly put him down look bad.<br><br>In 1997, Bay tried to trash the reputation of a jornalist by saying he only said bad thing sof his movies because he had a personal grunge on Bay because once Bay had stolen his girlfreind when they were in high school. The newpaper dmanded to veryfy the story, and Jerry Bruckheimer himself was on speakphone during the the interrogation of the jornalist in cauise and his editor. UIt was then revealed that not only the jornalist in cause is 12 years older then Bay, but he didn't even went to the same high school. Bay was then seen for the lying bitch he is. You cna read the whole story in the book THE GROSS, by Peter Bart.<br><br>Bay is just doing the same shit all over again. That fucking pussy! Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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Jazz had about five seconds of screen time in the first movie in which he spoke profanity-laced jive, breakdanced, and of course died (the old film cliche of the black guy always dying). But you're right. It's not as negative a stereotype as the twins in TF2, thus no one really bitching about it at the same level as the twins. what's your point?
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there's just no hope with you geeks. you badmouth bay all the time but you keep turning his films into blockbusters. have you no shame? i piss in all your mouths for making bayformers 2 such a huge success.
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Give up, amigo. He's a Gay for Bay, he will not listen to reason and common sense.
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I could spot the racism,but i don't take it to heart like everyone seems to do. Make fun of 10 white people its still funny,make fun of 2 black people its the worst shit in the world,how the fuck does that work? I'm not white.
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...with an overabundance of intelligence? If she didn't understand the TF3 plot, and you guys didn't either, does that mean you are on the same level as her? <p>I think having two less writers on this is a good thing. TF3 did feel like too many people wanted to get in too many different ideas. I still enjoyed it, and can't wait for more. <p>Bring it!
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I didn't notice him discriminating against anyone?!
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OK, So you guys don't like Michael Bay's exploding everything action movies. And you also don't like J.J. Abrams, McG and Robert Zemeckis. I get that. What I am really interested in then is what is it that you guys really like? Are their other action movie directors that you prefer? Or simply other genres?
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if i see a Jewbot in TF3 now i want a writing credit
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Racism should always be taken to heart.
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GODDAMN YOU FUCKING TEASE!
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The shortest explanation: i love the good stuff.
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Why?
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Though shit, dude!
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"It's not as negative a stereotype as the twins in TF2, thus no one really bitching about it at the same level as the twins. what's your point?"; you've just proved my point. Yes, the twins are a negative stereotype - I have already said they were pretty stupid idea, but there is nothing RACIST about how they are shown.
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I'm not even going to reply to that, as sign of respect for your. Take the hint, friend.
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Are you trying to drag this thing through the mud? The robots were black,the movie came out,get over it.
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I'm out.
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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i didnt know that. but just reading his childish vengeful way of trashing megan fox above, i think we can see plainly what kind of an asshole he is.
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And was about to head down to the middle school. THERE GOES MY WEEKEND! THANKS ASI! >B^(
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You talked yourself into a brick wall.<p> There is a vast difference between racism and stereotyping.
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Right after the Vega brothers movie. Back on topic, Hasbro is scared shitless of the idea of trying to sell toys to kids over 5 years old without a movie out.
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To be perfectly honest, I like Bay, I like Len Wisemen, I like Michael Mann,Tony Scott, I mean the list can go on. I really dunno if theres a pure action director out there though is it? I mean someone that makes straight action,no real plot.
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"franchise"
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What's that to you? I'm just curious... unless of course your cinematic preferences are a secret.
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No shit Sherlock. I'm talking about the REINFORCING of NEGATIVE stereotypes as being racist.
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No offense, Asi, but we get the point re: Bay. You're starting to come off like that video of the German kid screaming and attacking his computer. You've blown the transaxle, you're just grinding metal... ease down, ease down.
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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allover my comp screen. Bay, come clean it off. Now, bitch.
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...although, let's be clear: the only thing I'd like to put up Michael Bay's ass is a neutron bomb.
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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You know Donny adds a chin every time there's a sequel to TRANSFORMERS. He'll be Donny 3 C's this time around!
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I would be awesome. Check out his transformers vids on Youtube if you have been living in a cave.
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But kudos on the Megan bashing. I like that.
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They must be a superior meal. Cretins.
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...when Don Murphy inevitably shows up to scream obscenities at us, it's no-holds-barred, Asimov. Give him both barrels with my blessing.
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how much any article with Bay in it has so much hate coming from people behind computers. I never hear about you haters protesting the theater in which a Bay film is playing. Today, In the last 20 minutes, I've read the thoughts of a child Molester (Revenge), a homosexual (fuckmichaelbay), and someone who shits on his personal belongings hoping a director will come clean it up (isn't that gay as well if the director desired is male?) oh (cheyne_stoking_DMS)
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Oct. 1, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST
The form on the floor stirred as Megan strained in the dark...
by conspiracy
to see who this poor soul was, in the dark it was impossible to tell. "Get the fuck up already.."Bay hissed, nudging his victim with the toe of his boot, "Can you believe this little bitch actually though it didn't need me anymore?" Bay mused to Megan; who though quite used to being in this persons position, found it somewhat hard to look at. "Guess he had to learn the hard way how Directors in this town work..." Bay gave the crawling shape a hard kick...; it fell forward, into the light of the ceiling spotlamp...Shia looked up at Megan with pleading eyes.</p><p>Megan gasped..."Oh God...not Shia..." she said to herself, while still happy to know it wasn't Dakota who was on the receiving end of Michaels attention "And next time fucker, learn to keep your mouth shut about your fucking mommy festish" Bay commanded as he threw a long brown wig at Lebeouf as he slowly rose from the floor; "that shit costs us points among the 8-14 female demo; Steven just might loan you too me permanently you shoot that fucking trap off again..understand.."Son"?, Shia looked spent...half dead; "Yes mommy" croaked LeBeouf...his swollen, chapped lips mumbling out the words.</p><p> Megans reaction wasn't lost on Bay.."YOu look kinda releived there baby, you though this was someone else?" Bay chuckled, the leather of his vest creaking in the dim room.."I...I..I'm just kinda ya know..shocked to see..'Him'..ya know". Bay roared with laughter...coughing at the end as the chronic took its payment. "You should know by now babe how this game is played...Once Stevens bitch, always Stevens bitch..and this bitch needed a lesson with all the shit he's pulled the last two years"</p><p>Megan finally spoke.."You ok dude?" she said as she crouched down to eye level with him, stroking his hair. "I'll be fine Meg...it was my own fault...I..I deserved it..really..". "Thats right bitch..you did...you're just lucky Steven sent you over so late; that fucking Jet was late delivering my fucking shit...and you know how I am without a good fucking high." "George better have a talk to that kid...teach him how to fucking run an errand or next time I'll forget who he is" intoned Bay...a salicious look on his face as he thought about the prospects of taking Lucas son as his treat. "Michael..you're a real fucking douche..." Megan spat. Bay leered at Fox...flicked his still lit roach at her which bounced off her ample forehead. Then grabbing her by her hair dragged her to her feet.."And you...; hope you had fun running your dirty cum eater all over the press..." he grunted. He slapped her hard across the cheek..."Lesson one about this town baby...run your mouth AFTER you can carry a movie..not before" he pushed her away...Megan rubbed her stining cheek, somehow managing to stay upright on her stilletos. She heard a door shut as Shia managed to leave during the comotion..."Don't worry sweetie..I'm done with him, and just starting with you....but not here...you and I ...we're taking a ride." Megans heart sank...Bay, Bay she was sure she could handle...but she understood where this ride was leading...and she had heard stories about what went on under Stevens roof. She quietly thanked God that this wasn't the week she had decided to stop snorting heroin....
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Oct. 1, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST
"Well, I'll be a son of a bitch! I don't smoke,...
by cheyne_stoking_DMS
you don't drink, and Bob here wouldn't even think about lusting after another woman! Between the three of us, we're practically Jesus!"
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The third one must be the most offensively stupid movie of all time for them not to cash in. Or were they finally feeling pangs of embarrassment?
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You've got to admit though, reading the talkbacks is entertaining if nothing else
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Maybe if every article on AICN didn't devolve into this kind of crazy shit, yeah, but now its kind of like repeating Christmas every day, you eventually get bored of getting the same shit day in and day out.
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Bays' HairStylist
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I see what you mean.
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that even in the 80's it was gay.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST
looks like the people who are happy for crapformers 3 are:
by ultimateedition
Retards that don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". Poor idiots that hated one or both shitformers films yet are going to see the third one because this time they pray and hope cokehead bay got it right this time. Osama Bin Laden and mciahel bay's coke dealer
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Conspiracy, 'bringing the evil'.<p> You leave me both wanting to know what happens next, and really not wanting to know what happens next. For that I applaud you.
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Um, I haven't seen TRANSFORMERS 2 yet..<p> Is this the wrong tb to ask whether it's worthy of a rental?
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What next banning? I was never banned here. Don't youn tell me you also buy that retarded bullshit that i once was this other guy! That fucking idioticy is hysterical.
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Well you wouldn't come here for the reviews would you?
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is proof that if u get enough attention that someone can think of themselves as such an "online celebrity" that they create a 2nd screen name on here because they think they are so cool. i bet he looks in the mirror and compliments himself for how everyone on AICN thinks hes "soooo cool" anyhoo TF1 and 2 were both awesome...to say there was no story is to simple say u werent paying attention beyond when megan foxs ass or tits were onscreen which is much more probable given the fanboy crowd assembled here...the twins were not racist, it takes a racist to realize wht racist is..so thanks for outing yourself..to think theyre black stereotypes shows that thats what u think black people act and look like...so kudos. its a movie, its not real, there is no sacredness to the "source" material...which source are we referring to? there have been at least 5 incarnations of transformers in cartoon form, this is simply another incarnation. and who else is tired of the endless dark knight comparisons ? your precious DK would never have made the money it did if heath ledger is still breathing today...the only problem i had with "revenge" is the poor use of clones, ala the constructicons being in 2 places at once, but i honestly looked at the toyline and u do have one set of constructicons that ONLY form devastator and another group that turn into robots and dont merge...so i gave them a pass on that ...otherwise it was a great movie with a great script....cant blame bay for the script....as for the balls on devs, orci took credit for that, and u people lick his nuts when hes on a talkback, not blaming him or the other guy for what u hate...its called being delusional, thinking bay wrote the whole script...honestly i cant wait to see what kruger came up with on his own....may be the best transformers ever..
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I said "franchise over" when the fucking dog pissed on Optimus in #1, and I've seen nothing to change my mind since. At this point, I MAY watch #2 if it comes on HBO and I'm already stoned. But I won't be wasting money on it. So for #3, IF it has Unicron and Cybertron, and IF it gets great reviews - which means it has a great script and, oh hell like that's going to happen. There isn't a chance in hell I'll buy a TF3 ticket because there isn't a chance in hell it won't be a steaming pile of dog shit.
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Don Murphy is too small fry for me. He's nothing to me. He's all yours. But if you ever need help, i'll be your right hand man, amigo.
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'She quietly thanked God that this wasn't the week she had decided to stop snorting heroin....' that nearly killed me from the laughs.
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Too right, i don't come here for the week old news either.
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Actually, byzzaroAsimovLives is a completly different person then me. I don't know who the hell he is, really. But he makes me laugh.<br><br>I'm no online celebrity, i just am. i am my own person, with my own quirks. It's you, however, who seems too interested to be anm online celebrity, and you do that by attacking another talkbacker. I ratehr piss on fuckign hacks like Bay. If some people took notice of me, so what? You think i'm famous or some shit like that? I'm a nobody. Even in here i'm very small fish. I'm a sardine in the middle of the ocean. The guys who use my nick to make their own nicks, they are doing that for a laugh, nothing more. And i laugh with them. And you, can you laugh?
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I'd rather have Bad Boys 3, I guess. Unless we get some Transformers sex scene(s)in this new one! That wouldn't change the fact that I'm not much of a Bay Fan.
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About Howard Johnson Sr. being right
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Wells did it,why not these gigantic artists of our modern era?
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Oct. 1, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST
I had not planned it this way..but I can tie all this shit toget
by conspiracy
This story, the Orci/Abrams/Nimoy story and the Lucas/Speilberg/Ford shit can all tie together!!!! It will be my masterword..My evil Lord of the Rings!
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You're certainly more... outspoken on the subject than I remember MoM or BRU being. But Portugal isn't a huge place, maybe you and those guys should form a support group, you'd definitely have a lot of common ground to share. PS- over in Coax, your boy Jar Jar has a bidding war going on for his new series; might want to let them know what sort of man they are dealing with there.
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His novelizations of thye lives of stars is pure must read. Based on true stories.
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People that judge a movie by how much money they think its gonna make will be lining up for shitformers 3.. and that is just sad
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What freudian slip, friend? Besides, everybody i know, every friends i have and who dig movies hate Michsel Bay. In fact, i know not one single portuguese who likes Michael Bay. One radio personality live on radio called Bay's movies gay.
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Bays secret gay lover since...The Rock.
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i apologize for assuming that ur bizzaro too, my bad. but when i see someone post as many times as u here and in honestly almost every talkback i think they like the attention, so if not, then again i apologize. i dont blame bay for everything , but i think the movies were decent given the fact of what they had to work with...the movies need human stars in the spotlight because no one will go see the movies if there are only robots, only the fanboys and in that case yes the movies would have bombed..we would never have got 2...as for product placement....its in every movie and TV show if u look for it...to say that its only in BAY movies or in crappy movies is rediculous...but i hope kruger has a great idea...honestly...i wasnt attacking, and im hardly here to attack...i just think there is quite a few of us that enjoyed the movie, but most dont want to get flamed but i dont care .....nothing personal...im just passionate about movies in general.
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I already posted my opinion about Jar Jar Abrams's new shit TV show biding war. bascially, it was "Fuck Jar Jar Abrams. Fuck Jar Jar Abrams up his fucking ass". Also, i called the networks who are biding for his show retards. It's in there, friend. And again, i didn't mince words.
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youre quick writing back....dayum
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...when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in December?
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Actually, there's more then one guy "pretending2 to be me. there's thios other guy called Asimov_Lives. Can you spot the difference? But i take all that in stride, it's all for a laugh.<br><br>About Bay's product placement, let me tell you this: never was product placement more retard then whenhe used it in THE ISLAND... in the clone factory! I can understand a future society filled with advertizements. Bay's product placements would had some sense there. but inside the clone's colony, it makes absolutly no fucking sense whatsoever. It's clearly the work of a hack pushing his product placement into a mvoie any way he can, for the sake of mroe bucks so he can later have money to make more retard action scenes. It's stupid beyond belief.<br><br>The second worst case of retarded use of product placement in a movie was in Jar Jar Abrams's Shit Trek. again, anothe eexample of crass human stupidity in the form of a movie. i stillc an't fuckign believe somebody made that shit and got away with it so lightly. Perople today are eating the most dumb shit in movies too easily and too forgiving, if you ask me.
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At the end of Fanboys when the guys are sitting down to watch Star Wars Episode I, that one guy says the exact same thing I think everytime someone brings up eyeball fucking of any sort..."What if it suck?"
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At the end of Fanboys when the guys are sitting down to watch Star Wars Episode I, that one guy says the exact same thing I think everytime someone brings up eyeball fucking of any sort..."What if it sucks?"
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....will bomb imho
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where the hell have you been, you rascal?
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then bayformers 2
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All that hype for THAT shitty movie? Shit, an episode of Big Bang Theory is funnier.
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The movie is just too damned expensive! It will take a miracle like what happened with Titanic to make it turn a profit. Saying that, i don't give a shit. All i ask is the movie to be good.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST
Freudian slip: I figure we've all been banned at least once
by ebonic_plague
Hell, it's AICN, you are who you claim to be... from Walter B to Corey Feldman... and as long as you don't break character, nobody objects.
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i wanted to go home and visit Bays personal forum and tell him that he a soulless maker of products for consumption,who doesnt even respect his previous movie.(compare the ending of TF1 with the ending of TF2) <p>but i didnt.i was a casual visitor of his forum,when TF1 was in production,to get early the news and announcements,and i discovered that there a lot,and i mean a lot, of Bay fans who do love his work and discuss his movies,well at least from his technical abilities point of view. <p>he is a good director as his technical knowledge and skills are concerned,and he does know how to make simple,entertaining movies for the simple minded,average audience who needs something to escape to,from the boredom of everyday life.But he is not an 'artist' and there lies the controversy between his fans and his haters.
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I don't want to see Shia or Megan or Ryan Seacrest's clone Josh Duhamel in these movies anymore. There are other people in the world, Bay.
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Robin in the new flick?
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At best it's a servicable, unmemorable ligth weight comedy. Only thing that makes it try to have an identity is that it's set among star wars nerds. My majr problem with the movie is that it's too affectionable. It shoudl had been a mockery of that kind of fandom, from begining to end. The movie was too inlive with it's characters. And thus it became banal and unmemorable.>br><br>I rather wait for 5-25-77.
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i did notice the other variation of your sig,didnt know it wasnt u, ha ha....hero worship ? never,ever saw THE ISLAND, but stupidly i have the trailer in my favorites on youtube....i think i just love the music in the trailer, lol....but yes it would be silly on an island of clones to have prodct placement...im here for fun as well. but i can be accused of getting a bit carried away sometimes.
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So being banned is a badge of honour around here? Wow! Some of you guys are hardcore!
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So when I saw it, I immediately bought it and put it in my collection.
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josh looks nothing even close to ryan gaycrest..seacrest is gettin fat and gayer getting ready to toss dick clark in front of a NYC bus for the NEW YEARS ROCKIN EVE gig....i hate seeing him ham it up year after year...
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is really quite funny. You know, after TF2's massive boxoffice success. These talkbacks should make Michael Bay smile. I know I am smiling at all the obscenities thrown at a man who makes films viewed by large crowds. So some people like Bay's films, so what? You cán like James Cameron ánd Michael Bay's movies too, you know.
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Allow me to quote from the Great Goucho Marx: i wouldn't want to belong to any club that allowed me in. Hero worship about me? That's deranged for so many reasons. Nah, man, it's just all people having a laugh at my expense. And why not? They make me laugh too, so it's quid pro quo. How was it that the main character said in Oldboy? "You laugh, and the world laughs with you. You cry, and you cry alone."
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dude, this place is deranged, lol...never saw OLDBOY but the quote is right on the money...so true
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This will be major suckage since none of the parties involved know how to make a good movie.
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Yes you could, if you hate cinema. If you love cinema, then you can't love Michael Pussy Ass Bay's piece of faggotries he calls movies. One need to really hate cinema and wish to see it die to like the Bay's shit.
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Awesome Highly recommended
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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ha, u refuse to buy a ticket now, but come 2011 u will buy a ticket, then swear u will not see the movie, then after u see it , u will say ill never see it again, then u will see it 5 more times, then shoot urself for being so easy..lol
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We agree on something, amigo. Cool.<br><br>And no, i'm not being cute, i'm portuguese, amigo is friend in portuguese.
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More like, anyone who is crazy/degenerate enough to hang around here long enough to rate as a regular has usually (but not always) run their mouth off about something that draws the ire of the banhammer, me included. I think I got my underscore in the post-2004 election TB's when I waxed a little too philosophical about the odds of Bush living out his term. But spamming repetitive venom over and over again is a good way to find yourself on the business end of that banhammer, just FYI.
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and you can bet your ass on that.
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And you know who banned you? From what i understand, Moriarty and Massa are the resident republicans here (or Mori was, when he was still around).
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That Oldboy is a great piece of film. not knocking you though.
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the new enforcer...
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You would be suprised on how many retard are out there who think nothing of oldboy, even calling it over-rated or not that good. No, really, there are such type of vermin out there. And some of them post in here at AICN. All of those are also big fans of Michael Ass Bay.
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I refuse to give money to Bay, Kurtzman and Orci.
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And never underestimate the gullibility of the geeks to love and support a shit movie. I have learned that lesson the hard way.
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Becks...Bricks... whoever whatever, he'll ban you for being racist,homophobic, or whatever his flavor of the day is but will be just as bad writing a review to a film Harry hates.
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I think Father Geek was policing the TB's back then, but I doubt it was due to GOP sympathizing. I don't blame them, it was deserved, they have to be careful about allowing that kind of stuff on their site.
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and don't you forget... Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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Don't understand the meaning in the movie,only seeing it for it's shock value.
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Always doing the right thing. Respect!
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This should be a good thing because, as has been said in many TBs, the first two were all about action and splosions.<p>It'll be extremely interesting to find out what caused the turnabout.
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Get those knives sharp for the next TF3 update!
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Oct. 1, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST
If it was all robots it might be fun. Instead of grueling.
by Onin Solstice
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You assholes. In some threads you say a movie needed action, but in other movie threads, you say a movie needs LESS action?
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You sir, are an artiste. You should submit your story to ToplessRobot dot com!
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If you guys think the merchandising for transformers is over the top, take a look at the Dark Knight cycle suit on superherohype. Classic
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Money = success. Do you agree?
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IMHO it's just interesting that there is this "great story" around the action and splosions for Transformers 3.<p>Just eager to find out more about this story since Mr. Bay is so taken by it.
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Money = success. Do you agree?
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Oct. 1, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST
ebonic_plague..I feel left out, I have not been banned...yet.
by conspiracy
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Michael Bay has to be one of the worst directors out there. I didn't even see transformers 2 in the theatre because the first one was so bad. He does not know how to combine action and story. They should fire him.
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and the cartoon wasn't all action and explosions. Each Transformer had different personalties and some how the cartoon found time to focus on more then just two or three bots in just one half hour.
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Many "normal" people think the new Trek movie had a great story except for AsimovLives.
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I'm pissing my pants reading this shit, classic.
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Whatever energon was left in this inoperable vessel has precipitated into oblivion.
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I had a blast w/ this one, as brain-dead as it was. Make MANY MORE MIKEY BAY! <p> Noted_Sage Yack_Backer, even, may watch.
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Come on guys, TPM is his achilles heel. How many times has he pontificated about how great it was all while keeping a straight face.
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After the tease of an ocular shag from Cameron, it looks like Bay's in for sloppy seconds on my sockets.<p>And I've only got to put up with 18 months of foreBay, I mean foreplay.<p>How can $800,000,000 be wrong people? The public speak with their wallets and vote with their feet. In what world was anyone not expecting a third installment? maybe only Disneyworld.
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I'd be pissed if your stories got you banned, though. I haven't had that good of a laugh since the GONE! TB's.
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OPTIMUS PRIME. You know, the biggest face on the poster for the first 2 movies? Maybe let him ACTUALLY HAVE SCREENTIME AND A STORY. Since he sat out almost the whole first movie, then was dead for the whole second movie, MAYBE LET THE CHARACTER WE PAID TO SEE ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.
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No one on this Planet paid to see this movie because they were captivated by the hollow story-line.
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...Optimus was dead? I was saving Transformers 2 as a surprise for Christmas. Optimus dead? I hope he's up and about in time for Easter.
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-will include GOATS. You KNOW Mammaries of Mommy here is gonna be FIRST IN LINE--
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Nah, he was just portrayed as a loud mouthed shucking jiving nerd and buffoon.Anderson has great acting skills Law and Order and The Shield is living testament of that, yet Mikey made him into your run of the mill "Comedy" relief.Atleast in Bay's defense,Tyresse had a more digified role in TF.<p>But Bay is still an overblown no talent asshole.
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That's the new catch phrase for Mikey's staunch defenders.
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(In certain "areas" that is.)Paramount is desperate to rake in more ca$h for their releases.Well, GIJoe was the better of the two anyways.<p>That's right, I went "there" Bitches.
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Estimates suggest Mr. Bay will net around $90-$100 million salary for Revenege of the Fallen. Go Mr. Bay get it whiles its hot!! and right not Tranformers is on fire!!!! Havent seen the sequel but putting T3 out this fast means one thing and one thing only. Take the money from the sheep and take it as fast as you can! I salute you Mr. Bay. You rock.
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Hello. My name is Media Gold, and I'm a TPMholic. I also adore 2001 and my favorite all time film is Alien. I just love slow paced old school sci-fi. This might have something to do with being born in a time when there was no such thing as MTV or ritalin, I don't know.
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Yeah, like Blaster who rapped all the time?
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He's entitled to like TPM, while I'm supported of Watchmen,(which I'm sure Asi could care less about)DD Director's Cut and Ang Lee's Hulk.To each their own, but there are those who trash almost EVERY fucking Movie, but the minute you slam their beloved Bayformers, they pitch a bitch and become overly defensive.<p>Hint,Hint.
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If you saw TF2 and enjoyed yourself you either have a small penis or you're just a fucking idiot. Or both. Jesus I understand people found it "funny" or "fun" or a "popcorn flick" but just because a shit load of white boy idiots put up the cash to see the second one does not mean it should be defended or even mentioned really. That movie had so many problems it is hard to mention all of them in one pot so I won't. I for one will not see the third shit fest. I'll wait for the reboot in 2014 thank you very much.
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they should have tried something like that with the other two.
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I loves me some Transformers! FUCK OFF HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!
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why is this shit still being made? did I actually do good business? <p> Ok, I gotta go, David Lynch needs my opinion on red curtains.
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please SWEAR you won't pay to see another one of his "movies". I swear I won't!
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but if they could cut down the amount of characters to a third and actually focus on a good story, they might go some of the way to fixing Revenge of the Fallen. We know that won't happen though. Bay's approach is clearly that more is more and is trying to sneak into our bedrooms one more time to abuse us before the feds take him away. I hate to say it, but I'm probably not going to see 3 unless I am greatly convinced by reliable sources that it isn't shit. I loved the first movie and couldn't work out how they entirely fucked the sequel. How do you fuck up that bad?! He really DOESN'T know the difference between storyline and special effects. Spot on South Park!
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http://tinyurl.com/yebajkl
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...about new characters? THAT, my friends, is enough to answer any questions about why this movie, and its predecessors, suck.
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...take my advise, get yourself a a gun and shoot yourself in the fucking empty brainless head. stop wasting money that could be used on things that are worth it! please, do everybody a favor and just die!
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Mammy's little baby loves short'nin', short'nin', Mammy's little baby loves short'nin' bread
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Oct. 1, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST
My Megan Story based upon the plot of the conspiratorial one
by Dirk_The_Amoeba
Or...can a brother get banned for telling the truth? <p> Megan swallowed hard, by now it was an automatic reflex that even the glassy eyed stare and vacant expression that came courtesy of mega does of oxycontin, could not prevent. She gobbled up every last drop of goober goo from the 20th or was it the 200th 'actor' who dumped in her MegaSwallower™. She was the 'star' of TransFuckers XIV, as she had 'starred' in the previous XIII 'movies'. But this time, it was different, this time the Title was TransFuckers XIV: Megan really shows her dick -no honest, we mean it! <p>After having suckered her gullible and unsuspecting Tissue Warriors for XIII previous movies with the promise of Megan 'showing the goods' only to have Megan swallow more jis than Monica L, and get fucked in the ass by 'actors' wearing surplus Flesh Gordon robot costumes, the producers finally decided to let it all hang out! And yes, Megan really does have a dick. <p>But while waiting for the director to set up the money shot, the haze in her mind cleared enough so that she flashed back on the events that led to her current circumstances. <p> She remembers going to MBays 35 million dollar Malibu house - one of the smaller bungalows in that plan. But built from the sweaty backs of pros like her. She was prepared to swallow her pride -among other things, and beg Micky B for a job, but upon entering the dwelling, filled with the aroma of fuck stink mixed with cannabis and blood and shit - telltale marks of a really good ass-reaming, who does she see sprawled upon the floor in a state of sheer bliss? None other than Rumer Willis! <p>Oh, hell naw! Megan was willing to swallow a lot of things, even going down on that little whore Hallie Kate Eisenberg, but going down on Chinzilla - fuck no! <p>Megan thought to herself, 'How the fuck could Bruce think she was his? The only chin like that in hollywood belongs to Marv from Sin City!' <p> Megan stormed out of the house, and never looked back. Unfortunately due to the bomb that was Jennifer's Body, from her muff diving pal Cody, studio execs cut Megan out of Jonah Hex and replaced her with a horse -or Rumer Willis, no could tell the difference. And from that is was a long 9 mos. until she was appearing in her fourteenth cumstacular!
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I was really hoping that all the negative press and fan reaction to TF2 would convince the studio to drop Bay and start over... but that would require someone in Hollywood to have to come up w/ an original thought, so I can see the logic.
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Since when?
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Since when? Has he been taking night classes?
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sounds like they're taking everything that made TF2 shitty and amplifying it 3X, this one's gonna suck even more shit. Obviously they don't give a fuck since it made a billion dollars.
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With his point about hemorrhaging? If so, pretty nice!
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An ass am I.
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first act is an hour of robots fighting and blowing shit up, second act is 3 minutes long, Megan Fox washing her car in a wet T shirt, 3rd act is Shia being chased by 3 robots for 45 minutes then the final battle is an hour long fight with robots blowing shit up and tanks and military shit and rocket launchers.
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But it doesn't matter how bad the press Bay gets, Revenge of Fallen still made an obscene amount at the Box Office.<P>I should even apologise, seeing as I actually contributed to it.<p>I knew it would be bad but I really didn't expect it to be such a shockling inept piece of utter fucking shite - an absolute embarrassment and a complete insult to the craft of movie making. Two and a half hours of dogs fucking, robot genitalia and a wall of noise.<P>It really is the glorious cluster-fucked apex of Hollywood excess run amok.<p>Apon leaving the cinema, I was told Michael Jackson was dead.
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I'm sorry but again this isn't Superman Returns, TF2 was well received by audiences and did huge numbers. there is a world outside this self important talk back session. bay should take someones advice and shoot himself? yea good idea, before you fanboys end his career.
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make it fast before people realize part 2 was a ridiculous CGI-gasism that managed to make giant robot fight scenes boring.
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Whats up AICN...... Why you no got tattoo??? Oh it sucks ass by the way. Shit stained turd scarfing mud lips of maximus ass suckage. I love Jackie, but damn that dudes head is way too big for his little body and it looks worse when they try to play him in full frame dressed up like the K-man. If they do tricks to make him taller than his prey it will look retarded. I don't like this version of Freddy at all. The voice the makeup (which looks like overkill and too build up vs taken away- should have used CGI like the dark knight) and last well that arc welder sparkle magic glove fx crap is so fucking dumb. No music either, Anyways, I hope you all post it soon in it's own thread so I can bitch there. Freddy got ass raped. Jackie goes from Chicago/Boston hybird accent to a nazi'sh like accent when he becomes Freddy. Correction: Jackies voice sounds just like Edgar from Men in Black when he turns burnt nightmare Freddy. This movie is gonna suck so bad.
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i love you for that post.
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No. You are no Conspiracy. Stop writing now. Go work at McDonalds. Thanks.
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it's in 3d, come on now, thats why it was a 5 hour meeting with ilm, because 3d is hard, pffttttt...
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Oct. 1, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST
Are they still remaking 'Rocky Horror Picture'?...
by cheyne_stoking_DMS
why not have shitpants produce it?
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He's a troll douche. I mean come on. No one likes Bay. Not Tyrese, who's got to eat by the way or La Boufett or anyone. And his movies are over blown goofy-ness, and shit hacked out by someone who's smoked to much Crack. And people quit saying Transormers The Movie was good. I own it and it sucks. The soundtrack does not holed up and the dialogue was terrible. Not to mention RODIMUS PRIME. Fucking crap.
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He's a troll douche. I mean come on. No one likes Bay. Not Tyrese, who's got to eat by the way or La Boufett or anyone. And his movies are over blown goofy-ness, and shit hacked out by someone who's smoked to much Crack. And people quit saying Transormers The Movie was good. I own it and it sucks. The soundtrack does not holed up and the dialogue was terrible. Not to mention RODIMUS PRIME. Fucking crap.
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Then that is a no in my book
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I'm going to consider you my friend. His version is far superior to Loser Lettier's. I really liked the Watchmen DC also, so we have similar tastes. But Asimov always lectures us how stupid we are for like Star Trek all while defending the TPM.
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Do I come down to your job and take the mop out of your hands and tell you to go home? <p> Why you gotta be hatin? I know aint no writer, but you aint no philospher either. <p>Vive et vivere sine.
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I know man... I know. Money talks, right? <P> I should apologize as well. Yeah, I payed to see TF2. I went with a couple friends on a slow night and now you and everyone on here knows that money left my wallet and went into Bay's. <P> Seriously... I'm sorry for what I did and the shame of it keeps me up at night. <P> You hit the nail right on the head, for sure. I too thought there was no way it could have ever turned out that bad. I left the theater that day with a new sense of just how shitty a movie can truly be. <P> The moment Shia's mom tackled the Frisbee player I felt my heart and expectations completely shrivel up and die. I remember a hot flash coming over me and cold sweat on my forehead, and I suddenly realized that the shots of dogs fucking were Bay's subtle way of saying "Fuck You, assholes. You PAYED to see THIS" <P> sigh... fuck michael bay
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Eventhough you know it's bad for you it's just to damn tasty to put down. Ofcourse I'll pay to see TF3. Excuse me if I want to attend my favorite franchise's funeral in person.
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I thought you loved Bay and you were hoping He'd direct that Macross movie you wanted so much.
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for fucks sake, not again. TF2 made my brain ache for a month after watching Bay once again violate my fond childhood memories. I now pray for his destruction.
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BLAHALMODHAALMASPLOIONS!
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Maybe this one will just be one big 2 1/2 hour explosion.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST
Yeah, but when does Go-Bots: The Movie finally get made?
by Jamie McBain
Seriously, from what I hear, it couldn't worse than Revenge of The Fallen.
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As in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, not TPM as in The Prequel Mess. Anyone who loves a spoonful of that is on their own. Not that anyone should or would care for this dork's opinion.
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As in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, not TPM as in The Prequel Mess. Anyone who loves a spoonful of that is on their own. Not that anyone should or would care for this dork's opinion.
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With the "great story" comment, Bay seems to be placing this one in a totally separate league than the other two, like it's something fresh and on another level.<p>What I'm saying that after all this time in the industry, if he says "great story" then he should really have something.<p>From one great mind TBer to another, it would be very gratifying if that's the case.
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is it easier to watch all these michael bay movies, complain about stuff you weren't expecting to be in his movies anyways, and then come to an internet site to bash how much of a hack he is? He makes eyeball candy movies, and he makes a shitload of money. He's successful and his movies continue to make tons of money. He knows what puts asses in seats, and you guys would kill to be him, make the movies he maktes, and be as successful in the industry as him. Guy knows what sells and I'd rather make his movies and be a success instead of an indy film maker who struggles for years and never goes anywhere. Does that mean I would want to be a film maker for the wrong reasons? no. if i wanted to be a film maker, it would be to entertain as many people as I could. That's what bay does.
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Treat them like shit. They hate themselves and will come back for more every time.
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Optimus lays down for a while and then gets up again. Sorry for any spoilers.
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I mean, how did the writing team who co-created Fringe come up with TF2? I mean, even if you hate Fringe, it at least has some semblance of intelligence and wit. And the new Trek, too? Worries me that the guy who ISN'T them is now writing it...
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That was great, I should digitally preserve that bit of storytelling.
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Bad Boys, The Rock, Armageddon.
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Thanks
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Yahoo.
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Acting like a highschool girl with those comments about Fox, she is a spoilt brat, true, but you don't need to act like one.
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Otherwise forget it, It will be a Shia fest with Fox coasting thru a career with no acting talent. Good luck in your 30's Fox, Father Time's a comin' and Hell's coming with him!
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I think with the an edit TF2 could have gone from bad/average to ok/good. By edit I mean get rid of Skids and Mudflap and a lot of the college crap. <p> The Optimus fight in the forest is still the highlight of the movie and if they could look at why that was right, then we could get an ok movie.
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Just thought I'd add my two cents to a previous conversation.
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Even if the best we get is another Optimus Forest Fight.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST
just catching up on this tb - conspiracy brilliant as always
by Miyamoto_Musashi
That guy knows how to write <p> Dakota Fanning, is definetely going to be part of these jokes for a little while, looking hot and dangerous (at 15). <p> I can imagibe Bay having a thing for underage girls as well, that I am sure involved cocaine on and in them. Orci its more underage boys.
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seriously staying in character as someone so delusional, are you the same person that does Media Messiah, or if you feel like being a geek retard you become Diox ? <p> Still convinced its someone that works in AICN having a laugh, but whoever it is good writing.
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Makes Independence Day look like a training film, VFX-wise. Nobody can blow shit up better than Roland Emmerich.
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WHITE POWER!!!!!!!
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I watched snl and tuned out a lot, I didn't see a digital short with megan's fave penis in it until a few days later, I only saw a digital short with some tard rejecting megan fox's marriage proposal. Did the west coast edit the digital shorts too because of the f-bomb dropped by Slate? Or did I just miss it when I was busy getting ready to go out?
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Michael Bay, you son of a bitch you. I'm gettin' tired of your shit. Can't you take a hint, we don't wanna watch your movies anymore, you stupid cock sucker. By the way, does your mom still have, uhh, worms crawlin' out her pussy?
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Transformers 2 was turned around in 2 years and the obvious casualty of that move was the script. Even though I haven't seen the film (a lot of us only have to hear that a movie is terrible so many times before we decide it's best to just save our time and money), I feel pretty safe saying that the script/story was pathetic. You can rush almost any aspect of the filmmaking process, but the element you probably need to be the most careful with rushing is the screenwriting process. Paramount knows they can rake in hundreds of millions of $$$ regardless of whether or not the script is a complete piece of shit (and they could probably care less about the fact that the movie would've probably grossed another $150 million had they just invested a little more in the screenplay... how much profit do you think they missed out on due to negative word-of-mouth and lack of repeat viewings?). I had hoped that, if they were going to shoot for 2012, maybe someone at Paramount realized that a decent script could've taken them from great profit to astronomical profit. And maybe, this time around, they would've taken that extra time to polish up a solid script. 2011 release date tells me they're saying, "fuck the script! We could have 150 minutes of Optimus Prime taking a shit in the Grand Canyon and this bitch is still going to pull in $300m domestic and $500m international!" Ensuring that the film is as big a piece of garbage as Transformers 2 is worth it to them in exchange for seeing that cash come in one year sooner. I wish I could say that, if they pulled the same bullshit with Transformers 3 that they did with Transformers 2, then people wouldn't see it. But the fact is a lot of the people commenting on this page probably paid to see this abomination in the theaters despite the fact that they walked into it KNOWING it was gonna suck cock. And then they have the nerve to turn around and blog about how terrible the film was. I don't know what's worse, Paramount for making a shitty film, or the bloggers who rant about the movie being a piece of crap when that's exactly what they were expecting! So, actually, you know what? Fuck it. I'm changing my stance on this. Go ahead Paramount, please churn our your next cinematic Hasbro abortion as quickly as possible and hit all the retarded moviegoing public in their wallets if they're stupid enough to pay to see something they know will just piss them off. It's a smart move by your folks at Paramount to crank this movie out a year earlier, because there's a pretty strong risk that millions of the morons you're expecting to shell out money for your next shitfest will probably die during that extra 12 months from sticking their tongues into light sockets or accidentally chugging detergent.
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I didn't think you were old enough to remember that old joke.
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Just saw her on Parks and Recreation. She's very beautiful, and according to imdb she was just in CRANK 2 as a STUNT PERFORMER and not even credited as an actress or an extra. It also said in her bio that she supposedly owns every STAR TREK AND BATTLESTAR GALACTICA episode ever made. So not only is she ridiqulously hot she can do stunts and seems to have a "nerd" side. Just a suggestion.
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Keep it up, brother!! Refine the run on sentence, keep finding new uses for homonyms, ignore simple things like paragraph breaks, and you just might find yourself with a full-time writing (or should I say righting) gig at AICN!!
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Jettl can barely form a sentence...perhaps he really does work on the Transformer's production team?
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if that's the criteria, then we've got the entire crew right here.
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he would be Uwe Boll. Yet he's somehow allowed to make movies with some of the biggest names in Hollywood. Food for thought.
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Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that this guy, who bends over backwards in contorted, orwellian doublespeak in order to "prove" that Star Trek is the least financially successful movie of the series (despite making shitloads more than all the previous installments), then goes on to say that anyone who mentions B.O. as a measure of success is more or less retarded scum?
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Uwe's famous for getting sloppy seconds. Shia will be in a Dr. Boll opus within ten years, I promise.
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Oct. 1, 2009, 11:52 p.m. CST
Nobody's gay for bay here. Were all polin for Nolan.
by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN
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Just pretending we are in a paralel universe where somewhere who cares about characters and story are in charge of TF3, what would you want to see? <p>
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no no nonononono No NO NO NO NOFUCKINGNO NO NO!!!!!! SOMEONE TELL ME HOW THIS STUPID TALENTLESS HACK/DICK KEEP GETTING WORK?????? CAN'T WE TURN HARLAN ELLISON LOOSE ON HIM OR SOMETHING???
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numb tongue? fat hands???? that GOOFY opening scene with the "antique" car? the hammy hammy villain? the absurd coincidences of character running into each other? the absolutely cringe worthy "humor"? scotty anyone? i DARE a site regulator to actually give me an intelligent film lovers opinion on why one of these movies was better than the other. and for every sling you throw at transformers i can toss 2 back at star trek. and i'm not even a transformers fan. just a hypocrisy regulator.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST
TF2 made a truck load of money, Bay will get more work
by Miyamoto_Musashi
its that simple, the studio's aren't about art they are about making money. <p> I am waiting for Explosion the Movie by Michael Bay, 50 minutes of non-stop explosions, which will be popular but not nearly as popular as Star Wars: White Screem, the Star Wars logo followed by 2 hours of a plain white screen, with no sound.
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Less you have bone to pick with Horny green chicks.
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Go to rottentomatoes.com and looking at the reviews for both from a large number of professional reviewers (look at cream of the crop). Don't just look at one, look at lots, and if you still don't get it then just join Asi's club.
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Well, let's look at the odds shall we? <p> There are somewhere between ten and eleven million people in Portugal. Is it reasonable to assume that: <p> 1) If exposed to online movie forums, they will all post uncontrollable, hate-boner stroking rants about their hatred for Michael Bay and JJ Abrams? <p> 2) Use a mean-spirited and inordinate amount of homophobic language in their posts? <p> 3) Wax lyrical about Christopher Nolan, South Korean cinema and Blade Runner? <p> 4) Claim to be hard core SF fans? <p> 5) Occasionally write awkward and slightly creepy posts regarding females in the world of cinema, posts which reeked of either a poorly concealed asexuality or a profound unfamiliarity with the opposite sex? <p> 6) Display a penchant for enthusiastically writing figurative idiomatic checks in English, the necessary funds of which were severely lacking in their linguistic accounts? <p> 7) Prove utterly incapable of understanding the concept and usage of irony while at the same time poo-pooing all non-British English-speakers for their poor grasp of the language, while at the same time enraging Brits with their supposed understanding of particularly British expressions? <p> Or is it possible, just possible, that the "three" Portuguese fellows (BladeRunnerUnit, Memories-of-Murder and AsimovLives) who have so profusely posted here over the past six or seven years displaying all the above characteristics (each one appearing shortly after the previous one was banned) are, in fact, one and the same tool? <p> Here's the thing, AsimovLives: nobody gives a shit that you were banned before except you, since it offends your pride for some reason to have been banned for ranting on a film geek board. Even BringingSexyBack finally admitted to being brokebackcowboy. Your denial, however, is tantamount to calling all of us stupid since you seem to think your brilliant disguise is far too clever a ruse for us to expose. It's insulting, which is why some of us won't let it go. Thing is, we actually DON'T GIVE A SHIT who you are or were. I promise you nobody would even bring it up again if you admitted it.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST
Star trek makes transformers 2 look like mac and me
by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN
Oh wait nevermind Transformers 2 is just as bad as mac and me, gigli, ballistic ecks vs sever, any alleged spoof "movie" of the past 6 years, the butler, final battle and dancing scenes in spiderman 3, batman and robin, jaws 4, and a giant blood covered tampon after a woman has a mucus discharge
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Hate fucking everything.
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God I hope you're right! LeBöff would be perfect in A Boll Movie.
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Are you serious?
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Question: What do you get when you post a Michael Bay and J.J. Abrams story on the same day and let AsimovLives run rampant?<P>Answer: Web hits!
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And it needs to be in 3-D. That would be a sufficient amount of AWESOME, right, Mr. Bay?
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I remember seeing Megatron transform into something that was on the ground. I was like wtf is that? Then I remembered there were concept drawings releaed showing megatron as a "tank." Or what passes as a tank in a baybot film. That's why STAR TREK > TF imo. You can at least tell who's who, I'd rather listen to Beastie Boys and the little boy from Orphan playing young Kirk (even though it admittedly felt a *little* out of place in a treq film) than swallowing park for the 2nd film in a row, I actually felt sad when Winona didn't make it instead of being disappointed when shia survived, I felt good seeing Nimoy again instead of sorry for Peter Cullen being associated with a big pile of shit, I thought it was cool when I looked up Scarlet from GI Joe and found out she was the green chiq with Kirk, I thought it was badass seeing young Spock kick vulcan ass because the full blodded vulcans were picking on him because he was half human (reminds me of my youth as a mixed race kid myself snif snif) as opposed to smegma wickwussy telling his badazz camaro to go home and pussying out when jocks threaten him, I thought it was cool seeing Kirk's dad George Kirk and thinking yeah he can be Thor instead of seeing Optimus' ancestors and thinking yeah I don't need to see u mofos ever again. Bottom line time will not be kind on these movies. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on what you feel) Megan Fox may go down with this franchise too, and I think she's ok she just needs to be in better films
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.. of these. These franchises are like high dollar babysitters for hacks. Give McG, Ratner and Sommers each a 10 movie franchise deal while you're at it. I, for one, will sleep much better at night knowing the rest of the film world will be safe.
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And Gods bless moviegoers that saw TF 2 and not Harry Potter.
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geez they should be the A-Team!!!<p> Sommers as Hannibal, Ratner as Murdoch, McG as Face and Bay as BA.
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I'm not a big fan of Asimovlives. However he's completely right about Michael Bay. Has anybody seen BB2? I thought it might be fun, but I felt genuine discomfort several days afterwards.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST
Hahahaha that guy saw transformers 2 five times!!!
by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN
What a shit faced moron!!
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Oct. 2, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST
The question the studios (mostly FOX) are asking themself
by Miyamoto_Musashi
If they hired someone with actual creative talent and skill will the box office be much more than what these hacks offer, and will these creative people bend over and take it like the A-Team ? <p> The first question is definetely debateable, but not the second, thats why these guys keep getting hired. <p> Clearly Cameron has cred from Titanic still to get FOX in bed for Avatar.
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but thanks for the entertainment, keep it up
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Is that something you want to admit to publicly?? Any other humiliating things you'd like to share, like that time you forgot your bag lunch in 9th grade and your mom brought it to you when the school was doing the state AIMS test in the auditorium and totally destroyed what little self-confidence you had left? Oh shit, that was me! But really, 5 times??? I could barely sit through that monstrosity once (yes, I paid to see this astrotrain wreck, please stone me to death with stale cinema hot dogs now), I can't imagine a reasonable human being deliberately going to experience this horribleness 5 times! Five???? Good god, kid! Wash your eyes out with rubbing alcohol, you hoodlum!
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How sad is that?
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I know people hate Bay here, but who the fuck does Fox think she is? Bay grabbed her from nowhere and made her a massive star and gave her millions. Sure she's hot, but so is thousands of other hot wannabees waiting to be discovered. Fuck her. She's less appreciative than Katherine Heigl!
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movie and rave about it for days. Me, I find them overbearing pieces of ass.
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prepare for daily stories on it each with a million posts in the talkback
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starting with this one
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.. right in the ass, with no lube either. Very inconsiderate indeed.
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but rather the brain-dead.
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Only, Michael Bay wouldn't know a 'good story' if it jumped up and punched him in the eye. Or, he'll take a good story, apply the 'fuck the characters, where the 'splotions at' cream and Transformers or Transformers 2... again... These films are BAD. They're more like the contents of a horny 15 year old's wank bank... McG and Bay should fuck and have mediocre children.
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it means "huge paycheck", sadly Harrison Ford is the same now a days.
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Kruger is a great screenwriter, but I'm very curious how much of his script got jettisoned when muddied up by the two knuckleheads who wrote TRANSFORMERS 1?
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I hated the first Transformers movie. The reason I hated it was because I had very high expectations for the movie. Being a fan of the cartoon series, I expected it to have a somewhat serious tone and a coherent story. The movie could have been so much better in the right hands. I couldn't understand at that time why anyone would enjoy this crappy excuse of a movie. The first movie also lowered my expectations for the sequel, and the all round bad reviews that the second movie got when it was released in theaters didn't help either.<br> And after watching Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen on DVD, I am surprised to say that I enjoyed the movie a lot. The silly jokes somehow worked for me this time, and the nonsensical story actually made sense to me (at the time i was watching it). Now it's the opposite, I can't understand why people hate this movie so passionately. It's not the greatest movie of all time, but it's a summer action movie that delivers what it advertises.<br> If you are going to watch this movie at home, make sure you watch it in HD. One regret I had while watching the movie was not getting the Blu-ray version of it. The DVD version just isn't comparable to the Blu-ray version I saw a little of. This movie is made to be watched in HD. The action and and special effects are what I enjoyed most about the movie and it needs to be seen in all its HD glory to truly appreciate it.<br> They have toned down the use of the "shaky cam" technique compared to the first movie and as a result, the action was more discernible this time. You actually know who's fighting whom most of the time and which limb they are using to beat each other up. Plus, the use of slow motion for "cool" action set pieces helped too.<br> My advice for anybody that's going to watch Transformers 2 is to turn off your brain, get in mood to see lots of explosions and huge robots fighting each other with some juvenile jokes sprinkled in between. You'll be rewarded with two and a half hours of pure unadulterated fun.
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Holy fuck. They get more boring and convoluted as the series goes on.
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Michael Bay smarting up would be going from the level of a virus to the level of an amoeba. Which, for his standards, is a pretty big jump.
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....fuck YOU.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 4:49 a.m. CST
ganymede3010, you are such a lying fuck. All Gays for Bay are
by AsimovLives
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Two pea-brained egomaniacs creating a perfect storm of stupid-assedness, a vortex of dumb from which nothing will escape.
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the names Mudflaps and skids. Derogatory names like those are not given to 'wiggers'. The intent is clear, and anyone thinking otherwise has their head up Michael Bay's coke farting rectum. And now another CRAPTACULAR sequel? Stupid people need entertainment too, I guess, to keep them busy. And those drug cartels gotta stay in business somehow.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 5:33 a.m. CST
can this trilogy even be salvaged at this point?
by chronicallydepressedlemming
Those two ebonics 'twin's, a supposed new villain that was less impressive than Megatron, shit loads of little transformers that weren't needed, a Medusa-like woman Decepticon, Prime dying and then not, a tiny amount of Autobots and a seemingly endless cast of cahracterless Decepticons....did I leave out anything else that was shit?
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And, as Noted_Sage Jarv-Jarv saithe-and I quothe-he Loves EVEN More Aliens Vs. Predators! <p> However, in Case the PaZoozoo didn't Quite remember, Another way to tell that Our Friend from Oporto is Still amongst us here---he has the Iberian Peninsula's largest collection of Goat movies. Yessir. The Emir of the Ibex, starring in movies he directed hisself! And a goat. Always a goat.
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The guy uses stereotypes who are promoted by the rest of the big entertainment industry (music,cinema,tv shows etc).The first example of this is MTV,and the whole rnb,gangsta,rap,hiphop style of life that is being represented from the same black artists. <p>When i watch MTV and i only see black people shouting how cool they are,and how many bitches they have,how money they own and how they kill each other,i am sorry but Bay is not the problem. <p>I understand that the black community dooes have its own way of life and thinking,their own kind of 'language' and code of behaviour,but when Hollywood and the music industry promote ONLY the personal trademarks of ie Will Smith or 50c ,because the black and white community do love these kind of 'black' characteristics,then its not unexpected that they become the sole stereotypical representers of the black community.In other words,its because of the whole entertainment industry that young kids have the assumption that all the black people talk and act like Will Smith,or 50c or that all the black people listen rnb or rap or whatever. <p>I for once i would love to have a black protagonist in a movie,where he is intelligent,he speaks without that trademark black slang,he doesnt try all the time to show how cool he is,or how he prefers black booty babes than skinny white chicks.A normal black man who does not belong to the black (or asian,or arabian etc) stereotype. <p>Remember the yesterday news about the new Predator movie.They are using again multiculture stereotypes,because Hollywood thinks that the audience always expects the black guy to be talk funny and be badass,the chinese to know kungfu,the japanese to use katana,the white guy to beat the monster and fuck the girl,etc etc <p>Bay is just another gear of this whole industry,he is just doing his job.He gives to the average audience,what the audience wants.thast all.
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Is Looking forward to this, the first film is mindless fun but the sequel was a whole new level of bad, Fallen made Crystal Skull look like a classic! <P> And I love Abrams Trek!!!
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Stop the racism BULLSHIT, when this site heaped praise on GI Joe. Oh hey mr black guy, you want to be joe? Well guess what you dumb fucker, you can only get in based on the white guys super high scores!! And that ISN'T fucking racist? There was fuck all racism in it, people just decided to rip on the film, cause its an internet cause ot hate bay. Guess what fuckwads, no one outside this communtiy gives a shit what you think of bay, and was proven by the box office returns. Harry fucked his review of tf2, by trying to be something other than he is, tried to reverse it with GI JOE, which had all the same issues he lambasted TF2 for, and still he fucked it up. Tell you what fuck harry up his fucking ass
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It will be re-written around the "awesome" action scenes Bay already has in mind and will be the same soulless piece of entertainment like the other movies he has made (notable exception; The Rock, which remains his best).
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seriously, what else is on the horizon? Besides, with what we've seen with the first 2 how bad could it be? And of course, you know Bay is going to try and one up the SFX in Roland Emmerich's 2012 so that should be something to look forward to......
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seriously, what else is on the horizon? Besides, with what we've seen with the first 2 how bad could it be? And of course, you know Bay is going to try and one up the SFX in Roland Emmerich's 2012 so that should be something to look forward to......
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A 3rd piece of crap? There must be a way to make him tell a better story!
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Even tough, I do register some of the Errors of RotF. Like the First-Movie's Showdown being said in RotF to have occurred in LA instead of Mission-City(in my Opinion, the most irritating Error).
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quite some question for you to defend soem of the studipiest bulslhit in Jar Jar Abrams's Shit trek. But i'll leave that until a new talkback about that subject. Which means it is going to pop up next week, most certainly, since AICN is the world's greatest Abrams/Oci cum receptable.<br><br>But now it's Bay time!
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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cause they don't care about how cool they look to you online fannies ain't it cool used to be about that, now it's a fanboy mob. TF2 has a good story, with a very poor script.
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I see a lot of Gays For Bay in here. AICN is their San Francisco.
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... don't forget to shove a Michael Bay up your ass...."
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Oct. 2, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST
The first Transformers movie was already retarded beyond belief
by AsimovLives
One of my favorite stupidities in TF1 was when the movie decided to feel the need to point out in subtitles in two different sceens that it was "Qatar" when both scenes had the same characters and was set both in a sand desert. Like, as if audiences could not had guessed that on their own. This is a testement of the respect that Bay has for the audience's intelligence. He truly believes everybody is a moron. Well, no, Mr Bay, not everybody is a moron, only your fans and the idiots who love your movies.
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It's not a question of cool, it's a question of basic self-respect. and you don't get to be in the cool by admiting to love and watch 5 times one of the most horrible and retard and audience insulting movie ever made in the whole history of cinema. He migth as well put on a panel writen on it "i'm a clueless moron" and walk the streets showing it to the population at large. It's nothing to be with cool, it's to do with BASIC HUMAN COMMON SENSE.
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...More retarded, crappy ass movies. Revenge of the fallen wasn't a movie it was an insult...sort of like the Mummy Returns was. Only a lot worse. A Whole lot worse.
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ing about TF2? lol....do we really need to bother pointing out how bad it was?
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You're going to rant yourself into a new banning (if the rabid homophobia doesn't get you banned first). And then guess what? A completely NEW Portuguese guy who has never posted here before will suddenly show up, claim to be new in town and will post endless rants on Abrams and Bay. <p> Portugal must have the most predictable, one-minded fucking population on the planet. Oh wait, no it doesn't -- it'll just be you again.
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all, like, just get along? Are you two really going to keep arguing endlessly about Star trek? Look Asimov does nt like it, and thats his right, and Docpazuzu like it. How about you guys just agree to disagree?
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Lingering close up of Simmons hairy ass <P> Devastators balls clanging around <P> Leo getting tasered in the nuts <P> Midgets humor <P> Wheelie farting <P> Wheelie humping Megan Fox <P> Farting Appliancebots with penis weapons <P> BumblPee's butt cheeks <P> Male dogs humping not once but twice <P> Sam's mom getting high and tackling people <P> Megan Fox looking clean with perfect (porn star) makeup after being blow off a rooftop and rolling around on the ground.<P> Cussing ghetto thug stereotype robots in blackface <P> Stripper bot giving Sam a lap dance and tentacle rape <P> 3 bad stereotype comic relief Transformers who hog all the screen time <P> 10 different comic relief characters <P> Soundwave useless wasted never transforms little screen time <P> Devastator is only there to remove stones from pyramid, killed by twins and humans <P> The Fallen is underdeveloped appears out of nowhere at the end and dies easily with in 5 mins. <P> Cool Transformers and fan favorites get very little screen time and dialogue <P> Poorly shot, boring, soulless, action scenes: 1 sec of robots fighting cut 5 seconds of Shia screaming cut to 1 sec of robots fighting behind some trees.<P> Extreme close up transformations<P> Shaky cam ADHD editing<P> Panning 360 rotating sun flare camera shots with cheesy music every 5 minutes.<P> Bad story<P> Lazy plot<P> Horrible pacing<P> Terrible Linkin Park score<P> Tons of continuity errors<P> Dumb cringe inducing comedy<P> Vapid dialogue<P> A lot of Ad lib dialogue and dumb one liners<P> Blatant overacting<P> Terrible robot designs that are so incoherent and messy people can't tell who's who other than BB and Prime.<P> Insulting and boring<P> The whole movie take place during sunset<P> Considered the worst summer blockbuster ever made<P> Roger Ebert, other critics and movie sites insulted the fans of the movie due to how bad it was<P>
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Leave Star Trek alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just you wait until there is a new ST talkback, we will have words.
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The fx in ROTF are terrible! There some shots that look like they escaped from the mid 90s. Revenge Of The Sith had better effects and that was released nearly 5 years ago!
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"How I fucked up a franchise and still got paid"..... It would be a bestseller. <p> And... <p> "Yeah, I'm talking to you dumbfucks that supported me." would be the name of the sequel.
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to the complete delight of the Gays For Bay.
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the atrocious ending in the air carrier says it all.
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stopped posting in our conversation over in the old talkback.
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Good, well thought out points. Which I fear will be lost on many here, anxious to label Bay's TF as racist.<p> No doubt that the two robots in TF2 are stupid stereotypes, but they are only reinforced by people in the public eye like 50 Cent and Kanye West. The robots may be stereotypes, but they are only reinforcing many walking stereotypes we see in the media<p> Let me ask a few general questions:<p> What ethnic grouping mostly wear 'grills' - Black or white?<p> Which ethnic grouping mostly speak 'gangsta' or 'jive'?<p> Would a film showing white rednecks talking like retarded yokels and being unable to read be labelled as racist?<p> If Bay is a racist, why did he release 2 'Bad Boys' films where the main characters - the good guys - and a lot of the supporting cast were black?<p> Why, in BB2, did Bay show the Klan to be complete arseholes, worthy only of our hatred if he's a racist? In fact, was his portrayal of the Klan members as sweaty, poorly educated and bigotted buffoons racist?<p> Have a think about that - those that can - the rest of you can just carry on screaming 'GAY FOR BAY' until your lungs bleed. Thankyou!
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YOU DIDNT EVEN HAVE A GREAT STORY FOR THE OTHER 2 YOU MOTHERFUCKER!
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Oct. 2, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST
Didn't they destroy an entire town in the first one?
by bizarroAsimovlives
Yet the government was able to cover it up in TF2? <p> Every-time those kinda holes popped up in the new one I would scream "BAY LOGIC!" at the screen. <p> I screamed it a lot.
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Michael Bay should be done.
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Like a massive, massive twat, hey heads up Mr Bay, you plus Ehren Kruger equals shitty Transformer films, go take your huge bags of chang, yell at the cast and crew because you mistakenly believe thats how people act and make another mega disaster film, its your thing apparently.
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I heard they are going to take all the best scenes from all three movies and combined them into one Special Edition Commercial, in an attempt to sell Devestators' balls to excited Bayformist all over the world!
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and I think AssholeLives actually has a massive unrequited boner for Bay- Seriously: <P>"I'll only watcha Bay movie again if by AsimovLives Oct 1st, 2009 12:15:19 PM <P> it's 2 and half hours of Bay getting fucked in this fucking ass." <P>What clearly happened was that a lonely little goatherd from the asshole of Europe saved up all the Escudo he'd earned from allowing strangers to put a finger in his bung-hole while he fellated his woolly tribe. <P>He then hopped traded in his asshole to horny sailors for passage across the Atlantic. <P>Once in America, he mooched in the bushes outside Bay's house furiously masturbating while watching Bay edit the first film. <P>What turned his love to hate, clearly, was that Bay saw him and set his dogs on him. Traumatised, rejected and a little bit savaged, his love turned to hate- the result of which you see above.
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remind me again about how you booked a ticket in advance to see "Mr. Alien, Mr. Predator and lots and lots of Mr. and Mrs. Dead People"- a film so bad that it makes Transformers look like Raiders of the Lost Ark. <P>You hypocritical little cunt.
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He laughs with the KKK so he must be some kind of left-winger? Remarkable reasoning you’ve got going on there. Surely you can’t deny his constant glorification of the army? The two heroes of BB2 might be black but that didn’t prevent him from still using them in the same old stereotypical situations. Have you noticed that he never laughs with the ridiculous machismo that so often appears in his movies? On a side note, why is there always such enormous polarization in America? I have noticed that it is just not done to say that you like ‘black’ popular culture on these boards. I really think that is also a kind of racism. I like some Kanye West songs and stuff he’s done with other artists. 50 Cent has some catchy songs too. He’s not very talented but does have a certain amount of charisma.
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That heroin line was superb.
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2 and a half more years of listening to people fag out over this HORRID FUCKING FRANCHISE. Rapture! OH SWEET JOY! Michael Bay...let me gently massage your taint with my tongue...I do this because of all you give us...all the good you do the world. Sigh. Talentless cunt.
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Wassup and a shout-out to ya..Yes, Movies like Hulk and watchmen are deemed an acquired taste. (Most may dismiss it and there are those that found something more than relevant within the films.)Asi may to some,come off as an elitist, but Iget for the most part of what he's talking about regarding these overpaid hack filmmakers.His posts are funny (especially the vitrolic comments towards orci,bay,etc.)and the guy can explain the semantics. i.e. when critiqing Star Trek.as opposed to some troll just saying 'this movie sucks" without explaining the hows and the whys.<p>It's cool to agree to disagree, but it's equally important to respect someone else's tastes as opposed to calling them names.otherwise, I might as well call one of my friends a retard for liking TF2. XD<p>You guys should either settle this diplomatically, or stay in your corners. Let's all play nice after all, it's muthafukin Friday!!<p>Peace
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Thanks for the response. I apologise but I'm not sure I understand a lot of your phrasing, so I'm not sure if you agree or disagree, but I will attempt to address your points.<p> I don't recall saying that Bay was a left-winger, so I'm unsure what you're driving at.<p> Yes, Bay has an erection for military hardware; your point? Is a love of the military racist? I don't understand.<p> His leads in the Bad Boy films may be stereotypes, but they are definately not negative ones - would Will Smith allow himself to be cast in a role where he appeared as a negative racial sterotype?<p> But this is my whole point - there is a difference between racism and stereotyping.
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Armaggeddon. Seriously, brings a tear to my eye every time! That film has power!
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Hey, pal. I did posted something in the old talkback yesterday, i believe. Check it out.
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My point exactly, as i said in my post as reply to Sal_Whatever.
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Friday afternoon, I'm not really focused I'm afraid. Anyway, to make it short: his love for the military, the stereotyping, it all indicates to a sort of rancid ideology which I certainly don't think like. Didn't our 'heroes' destroy a whole village at the end of BB2? Sorry, I just don't think that's funny.
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He's the same likeable guy in every movie. Like Samuel Jackson, resident angryman, Christopher Walken downright creepy every time out, even Denzel... <p> Great actor but when was the last time he played a character outside of his own personality traits? <p> Yeah I said it! <p> Not that it's anything wrong with that... You just know what to expect from these guys nowadays.
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... so he can shove it up in his ass in complete autoerotic delight. While in his humongous TV screen plays in a loop a montage of all the explosions and racist jokes in all his movies.
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Why do you hate Abrams Trek so much?
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No problem. I understand what you're getting at now.<p> Whether you agree with Bay's ideology, or your perception of it, is of course, a personal matter, and I can't fault you for that.<p> As I have said previously, my point is that he shouldn't be labelled a racist. That's simply not correct.
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Because he's a hypocrite cunt with a nebulous and wholly unreasonable criteria for what makes a "good" movie. <P>I haven't seen Dork Trek, but his reaction makes me think that it's probably superb.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST
Please, Ain't It Cool News, stop reporting on Transformers!
by Mr Gorilla
Earlier this year, it seemed that every other day there was a new 'scoop' of a toy, or action figure, or piece of publicity, or photo, that gave a clue to something that would appear in TRANSFORMERS 2. But in the end, the film sucked balls. Knowing that T3 is going to suck balls too, can you please give us a break and STOP REPORTING ON TRANSFORMERS! 2011 will be the year of the final Harry Potter and the first Hobbit. Can you report on those instead? I'm serious about this. You are meant to me a site that cares about movies, not a site that studios use to publicize their crap.
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I respect the fact that you have passion - there's sometimes to much timidity in the world - but venting homophobic spleen about a man you don't know, that you probably wouldn't say to his face (not because you're a pussy or anything, simply because people simply don't go up to strangers and yell, "STICK THAT DOLL UP YOUR ARSE YOU FUCKTARD!") and that really serves little purpose other than to offend, seems a waste of your energies.<p>Write something valid.<p>Write something insightful.<p>Use your passion for some other purpose than indirectly ranting against homosexuals. Otherwise you just sound...well, childish. And little children make a lot of noise but say very little.
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I disagree. I thought Jazz in the first film (haven't seen the second) was a racist stereotype. <P>I get the distinction that you're making, but I honestly thought that could not have been any more of a lazy, offensive, obnoxious stereotype. <P>I don't think it was intentional- I think it was hamfisted.
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I say: YES, I do expect Shakespeare. Shakespeare's plays appealed to the educated AND the uneducated alike. He played to the standing crowds who wanted thrilling entertainment, as well as the poshies who wanted enlightenment. He proved that it is possible to create great popular culture. So yes, when it comes to summer Blockbusters, we SHOULD be expecting something that is wildly thrilling, but that also gives us stuff to chew on.
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I had a hard time trying to figure out of you were being serious or just joking. The line "When i watch MTV and i only see black people shouting how cool they are,and how many bitches they have..." <p> I mean if you are using MTV as a source of information about Blacks or any ethnic group for that matter, and thus excusing Bay's insensitivity toward Blacks because you saw the same thing on MTV, well son, I am not sure anything I could say will change your mind. <p> But I will try. In a nutshell, no race of peoples can be boiled down to what you see on a TV program, especially a music TV program geared at teens. <p>Bay's insensitivity and borderline racism came from not balancing the offensive stereotypes. In a movie where the heroes are white, and the only so-called positive portrayal of a black character is Tyrese, to then load such offensive stereotyped characters as the twins into the movie severed no purpose but to generate the lowest common denominator laughs possible. There was no balance. If all you show is a stereotype, then people who only know about a different race from what they see on MTV or in a action movie, might think 'yeah that's how most of them live and act and talk'. <p> And btw Will Smith does not portray a stereotyped 'black' character. he is an action star who quips. You know like Bruce Willis? And as for the positive black portrayals, hmm how about Morgan Freeman (well he is suspect now due to that granddaughter thing) or Denzel? <p> I suggest you learn more about blacks by turning off MTV. <p> BTW I do not mean to be critical of you, I think you were expressing an honest -albeit ill-informed opinion.
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Put it much better than I did.
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Only one short scene in any of Shakespeare's major tragedies appealed to the uneducated - the gatekeeper in Macbeth, the clown/musician in Othello, the gravediggers in Hamlet, etc., etc.<p>So, in five acts of art only one short section was dedicated to the masses. For most of the production they talked and threw food at each other, prefering the other entertainments available inside the theatre: whores, cock fighting and bear baiting.<p>All Bay has done is invert Shakespeare's principle and make five acts of mindless Bayhem designed to stop the drones from flicking popcorn at each other and getting handjobs from the sluts on the back row of the cinema and maybe one short section contains a moment of real art.<p>Actually, maybe not even that.
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I agree Jazz and the 'twins' were incredibly ham-fisted, but as I have said, a lot of prominent Black Americans in the media reinforce these stereotypes, which doesn't help.<p> That said, given that the robots learn our language and culture from the media, you could interpret Jazz as a comment about MTV - after all, isn't he just an amalgam of the 'gangsta' rappers that we see rolling endlessly across MTV? But is Bay really that clever? Maybe; maybe not.
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I have been laughing at your Asi posts!
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You might want to read what i just posted above to Ominus.
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I think it was a monumentally ignorant and lazy character. Fuck's sake it couldn't have been any worse if Jazz started out as a white car and then painted his face black. <P>Glad you liked it TKD- I can't stand that animal molesting twat.
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I did. And?<p> Do you disagree that there are Black Americans on MTV reinforcing negative stereotypes?<p> As I keep repeating; yes, the twins were stereotypes, but they weren't discriminated against in the film. The were on the 'good guy's' side, and none of the characters in the film treat them maliciously because they were 'black'.<p> And in the first film, doesn't the Autobot leader refer to the 'black' robot, Jazz, as his 'trusted Lieutenant'? Surely high praise in the context of the film?
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The answer to that is for another talkback with the proper subject.
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baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa, (smears shit on self), baaaa, baaaaaa, baaaaa, AvP:Rectum is good, baaaaaa, baaaaa, baaaa
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Oct. 2, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST
"The answer to that is for another talkback with the proper subj
by Lost Jarv
Since when has that ever stopped you? <P>Cunt.
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That Bay included stereotypical characters in his film - which isn't a crime - but essentially wasted them.<p> If Jazz had a stronger role or been more central to the plot, it wouldn't have been an issue. Jazz (to a certain extent) and the twins were included as comic relief; unfortunately they just weren't fucking funny (unless you were a ten-year-old boy); if they'd been funny, then the stereotyping probably wouldn't raise as much criticism.
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You got me wrong, friend. I respect gays all over the world. I respect gays like Sir Ian McKellen, who who is open about who he is. He's a msart, learned, intleligent fellow, and i would be honoured to ever make his acquaintance. And i support all gays who make that his lifestyle, and i would help bash a baseball bat in the face of all the fucking right-winger fucks who want to deprise gays of their basic human rights, including marriage and adaption of children.<br><br>It's not homosexuals i have a problem with, it's fucking faggots like motherfucking Michael Fucking Pussy Ass Bay. There's a very big difference there. Compreendes?
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Would you be as cavalier with calling Bay a "N-word?" I don't think McKellan would approve of that kind of post, either. Do as thou wilt and talkback wild-west and all that, but you might want to think about it.
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I dunno, that's a good question. I'm not sure what I want to see in this universe. I would like, however, to see more Transformer involvement. That doesn't mean more "action", I mean more introspection, more teamwork and camaraderie, more relationships between the actual bots.
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...IS THE JOHN HOLMES MUDDAFOCKA THAT STRETCHED OUT THE TB?! It's 2009, Harry, there's not a fix for this yet
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If AICN stops reporting on Michael Piece Of Shit Bay and his shit movies, how can we have our fun? This place can get pretty dull sometimes. Bay makes terrible movies that suck the soul of of a person, but the trade-off is the oportunity for comedy and bash that it entrails. Talk about small mercies.
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If AICN stops reporting on Michael Piece Of Shit Bay and his shit movies, how can we have our fun? This place can get pretty dull sometimes. Bay makes terrible movies that suck the soul off of a person, but the trade-off is the oportunity for comedy and bash that it entrails. Talk about small mercies.
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respond to my questions...
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Add to yours my indignation as well. Who was the clever ass's idea to turn the talkbacks' text boxes into sparghetti?
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The point I was trying to make is that you can not judge a race of peoples by what you see on TV. MTV's stereotyped portrayals of Blacks is the same thing as the 70's TV show Hee haw was to country music loving Whites. If that is all you knew about either group, then that is the conclusion you would draw. <p> The problem with Bay has nothing to do with wheher the characters in his movie were dicriminated against. Hell stepinfetchit and Rochester were not discriminated against. But that was the only portrayal - an offensive stereotype. Like I said, it was borderline racism (I do not think mike is a racist btw) because it had no balance of a truly positive Black hero - one who does not act like is straight from MTV rappers lifewhatever.
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"It's not homosexuals i have a problem with, it's fucking faggots like motherfucking Michael Fucking Pussy Ass Bay"<P>Do you really not see what is wrong with that sentence- by using the term "Faggot" and "Pussy Ass" in a derogatory fashion you are being homophobic- you are using it as a lazily pejorative term. <P>This is just one of the reasons why people get at you.
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The majority of my theater seemed to enjoy the Hell out of them. What does that tell you?
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Then i'll answer your questions. Stay tuned.
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Yes, it does work like that.
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No really, did I miss something?
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Who loves AVP:R, bitch? god, you fucking beleive i would love that piec eof shit? who the fuck you think i am, you? Go fuck yourself, you retarded piece of shit. Liar and retard, what a fucking winning combination you got there, fuck ass!
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He's the worst in-the-closet case in whole of Hollywood. His movies are a testement to that.
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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Christ. <P>How stupid are you? It isn't that you now claim to not like it, it's that you were frothing at the crotch over it based on one shitty trailer. That's why you're a hypocrite and, frankly, a cunt.
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Yeah, point taken - I agree, and I have just been laughing out loud at some of the very naughty insults on this page. More seriously, I read a review that described TF as not just a terrible movie, but a terrible movie with 'a rotten heart'. I.e, it's sexist, it's racist, it makes violence into a kind of pornography, it's totally not what 10-year-old kids should be seeing. We know Michael Bay is less than human, he never claimed to be more - but the guy I think should really be taken to task is Steven Fucking Spielberg. The guy makes Schindler's List and Amistad, then puts his name on this shit? That's like sitting through a really long boring sermon, then finding out that the priest is fucking your daughter. He should be fucking ashamed of himself.
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We're approaching the same conclusion but from different tolerance levels.<p> If Jazz or the twins contributed in any way to the films, there would not be this problem. The problem is they were there as comic relief, but were just not funny. A sterotype is not necessarily a bad thing; Austin Powers, and Eddie Murphy's white Jewish cameo character in Coming to America, for example.<p> I disagree on one point, however - MTV does not stereotype Black Artists - they do that themselves.
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English totally collapses. Suppose it is fair enough considering it is his third language after goat and Portuguese.
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As ebonic_plague said, its like using the N-word on somebody but claiming its not bc the person is black.
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Oh so because his movies find poorly judged humour in gay relationships (like that bit in Bad Boys II where Martin Lawrence is going "it hurt going in" and the store owner over hears them and is shocked/disgusted) it's because he's a self hating gay. So therefore it's perfectly fine to call him faggot. Yeah, that makes sense.
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I don't buy into that PC bullshit.
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Indeed it does. It's all very terribly suspicious. Even if he wasn't gay (which he is), then it would still valid to call him a fuckijng faggot, for the stupid jabs at homosexuality that fucking hick does in his movies. It's all fitting to the fuck he is.
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Do you honestly not see anything wrong with that? and it isn't PC bullshit.
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to throw that term around in the way that you do. Christ, how do you not understand this?
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...That I'm one of the few who enjoyed INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. I didn't hate Spielberg when I was watching that film - the guy still knows some moves! However, unlike most of the community here, I actually believe that much of the moral goodness in that film probably came from George Lucas, who seems to still believe in popular films as a potential force for good. Spielberg has two settings: 'educate through guilt' (Color Purple, Schindlers, etc) or 'entertain by any means necessary' (which often works out, but can go horribly wrong, as in War of the Worlds, which seemed to be doing its best to make the great American public fearful of attack by martians cough-cough muslims). Georgy-Porgy, for better or worse, tries to blend political and moral stuff into his blockbusters.
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Is that what you're saying?
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Actually I was being sarcastic. It doesn't really makes sense. Unless you think being gay is something to be ashamed of. And so calling someone a faggott will hurt them to their core. In which case, well, you're wrong. It won't. In fact all it does is make you look like a plum while the important issue (i.e. Michael Bay sucks and really is a bigot) is ignored.
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I disagree with your sentiments that Spiels was trying to make us fearful of an attack by Muslims. That's just the prevailing current here in America. There's nothing in the film which implies anything about Muslims, unlike the scifi films of yore in which the Communist symbolism was pretty transparent, for the most part. I think what you see in War of the Worlds comes more from your own experience than what Spiels was trying to show us. Which in the end is what we want from any entertainer or artist, to allow us to see rather than to show.
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Because Bay displays ostensibly homophobic/racist undertones in his movies, that makes it OKAY to hurl much more venomous racist/homophobic abuse back at him? Look, I'm all for hating on Bay-- I think MCMXXVIII is a misunderstood genius-- but this "two wrongs make a right" approach is pretty obviously hypocritical and more than a little repulsive. Don't interpret this as a personal attack, Asi; just think about it.
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It's the rotten heart at ALL of Michael Bay's movies that truly gets to me. It's one thing for a filmmaker to make a bad movie because he failed to achieve his goals, or because he is not talented enough. This is why i don't hate McG, even though i think he's a complete vaccum of talent as a filmmaker. But guys like McG are just fools. Michael Bay is something worst. Something far worst. He has a rotten heart to him and it reflects fully in his movies. He's beyond bad. He is, truly, the worst director i ever seen making movies, with only Jar Jar Abrams in second place in that kind of directors with rotten evil hearts. But Bay is still champion. Nobody is wost then him. He really is a fucking psychopath making movies.<br><br>As for spielberg, trust me, i'm terribly disapointe with the bag man myself as well. Not only that this guy decided to hire Bay to make movies under his name, but then he made that exacrable pissing on a movie legend called Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skullfuck. I still can't believe such a godawful shit came from him! It0's as if michael Bay infected him with his own untalented evilness, or some shit like that. It blows my mind!
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I'll think about it.
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*goes back into hiding*
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"but this "two wrongs make a right" approach is pretty obviously hypocritical and more than a little repulsive."<P>Except do interpret this as an attack you hypocrite goat molesting twat. <P>PS- when is Spain finally going to turn that shithole you live in into one big landfill? And why do your women always look like they need to shave?
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He deserves to take every insult thrown at it... UP IN HIS FUCKING ASS!
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Oh Brother...
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Dude, no problem, man. Really, i don't blame you for liking it. I actually understand. It's the nostalgia. It's a power force for all us geeks. Makes us blind to the abuse that beloved franchises get with futher sequels from directors who stoped caring, or from hacks who later took charge. no, man, it's Spielberg i'm pissed at, not you. We are good.
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I have his latest movie to prove it. But again, this is not the time and place for that discussion. The time will came, and i'm sure, soon enough. This is AICN, after all.
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made a decent movie in the past fifteen years. You know it's true.
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Why i would think there's anything wrong with being gay? Who you think i am, Lost Jarv? no, man, you got it all wrong. There's nothing to be though as wrong about homosexuality. That's not the issue. The issue is the in-the-closet cased like Bay, who in his hypocrisy go for the anti-gay juvenile frat boy humour shit. Fuck him. It turn the tables on him. He gets to the the target of his own type of humour. It's fitting and it's justice served. Hell yeah!
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Munich. 'Nuff said. That movie is not only good, it's excelent.
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All your insults seem to be gay related - you seem especially fond of the idea of things going up Bay's arse. Latent homosexuality on your part?
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Which is odd because I want to see it to see if it is the trainwreck most people say it is, plus I always love me some Harrison Ford, even if it is as an aging Indy. Will have to check it out soon just so I can join in the debates about it.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST
Mudskid and Flaps were not just making fun of black people...
by bizarroAsimovlives
They were representatives of what corporate America think today's youth sound and act like. That demographic includes Black, whites and all the colors of the rainbow. <p> Black kids aren't the only ones out here in 2009 saying yo and wearing Gold teeth, see Eminem and Paul Wall as proof. If anything they poked fun at B-Boys and the Hip-Hop Culture. The way they dress and the attitude. <p> I can accused Micheal Bay of making a shitty movie because he did. But to say the man is racist, that's stretching it a bit. <p> Gay on the other hand is a different story. Did I need to know that Devastator had balls?
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Really? I ate my shoe while watching that for a pleasent distraction. Also my point wasn't that you thought there was anything wrong with being gay, more that it would be easy for people to criticise you for it if you're shouting the word fag.. oh forget it. Bay sucks, on that we both agree.
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This IS an interesting one, and you won't be surprised to know that you're not the first to disagree with me! My thought was that ever since the horrible attack on the WTC, fear of further attack has been at the back of all our minds. Here in the UK, Tony Blair specifically worked that fear when he spoke in parliament before the Iraq war of 2003. He said that Iraq could bomb us in 45 mins. This all turned out to be either a lie or bad information. The point is, that government was using our fear of attack to give it free reign to attack other countries. In this light, is it responsible to make a blockbuster film in which your country is subjected to attack? Won't that just further embed these fears into people's minds? What's more, martians are a dehumanised enemy, and nothing suits an aggressive foreign policy more than dehumanising the enemy. OK - what's interesting to me is that at the very same time, Lucas' shabbily acted Prequel Trilogy actually made some points about a despotic leadership using a manufactured enemy to increase its powers. Fear of attack was shown to be one of their most powerful arguments in this process.
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I think the twins were indicative more of that social sect that seems to applaud ignorance (hip-hop culture) rather than just the blanket "black people". But I can see how others would disagree.
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Blair is a cunt.
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Despite what I said about the 'Berg only having 2 settings, I've got to agree with you - Munich was a great movie. What I think was really good about it was that he was attaching all the political stuff to a men-on-a-mission movie. Really great stuff. (In terms of entertainment, by the way, I also think that Catch me if you Can is really wonderful.)
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If you feel so tolerant to the two black stereotype robots of Transformers 2, then explain to me the rationalle behind why two interstellar robots from another planet would completly mimick the traits of two illiterated blackmen to the point they can't even really know how to read. What's the narrative logic to that? What's the narrative porpose to that? What's their porpose? Because, frankly, to me it's all for the sake of a bad cheap cheesy laugh. And racist too.
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Everything after the naked chick was woefully bad.
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So you're anti-racism but fine with homophobia. <P>You're nothing more than a hypocritical little bigot. <P>And a cunt.
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Just before AssLives was banned as BladeRunnerUnit and later as Memories-of-Murder he went off on similar homophobic rants. The more people tried to reason with him, the more he piled on the slurs in order to avoid backing out of the corner he was in. He then gloriously and hilariously imploded before being banned to the merriment of many. Looks like it's going to happen again.
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I think Catch Me If You Can is more a filmmaking achievement then a story or narrative achievement. While i don't think the story is bad, i think the movie works more like a colelction of great moments of filmmaking from a very talented filmmaker. It's the kind of movie one would like more because of how well it's made then because it tells some really good story.<br><br>And Munich is a masterpiece, it's easily one of Spielberg's best.
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Coffee, meet keyboard. <p> Thanks, Jarv, you bastard!
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I think there is definitely a difference in intent and execution, however. I firmly believe that Spielberg believed it to be the right time for another War of the Worlds. The Cold War is over, America had no obvious "enemies". The 50's and 60's were rife with excellent scifi because A. we had obvious enemies and B. the entire air of the country was fear, fear of a nuclear doomsday or (in the case of the 40s) infiltration by Communists and an end to our way of life. <p> Since the Cold War ended, we as Americans didn't have that fear any more. After 9-11, it was suddenly very very possible that everything could once again end. <p> So, Spiels being the smart filmmaker he is, saw it as a perfect time to make War of the Worlds, and I agree. Make it in the 90s and it doesn't have the same impact, the same oomph (look at ID4). Make it at a time when we're already fearful of attack, and BINGO, you've got a great reaction. That's why the scifi films of yore were so successful.<p> So there's the intent. But the execution differs. He doesn't litter his film with anything that suggests 9-11 or Muslims or religious differences, and that's key. It allows the viewer to come away with his own conclusion. Either the movie is gonna be "way cool" based on visuals or story, or its gonna be "way scary" bc they are reminded of how scared they are of another attack. <p> I actually saw the film as not necessarily an indictment of the Iraq War, but a presentation to the American public of what a War on your homeland will look like. Here's hundreds of displaced Americans, trekking across the country with nowhere to go, afraid of getting caught in between the firefights of the Army and the Aliens (which is exactly what happens to our heroes). I saw the film as saying "See? This is what happens to any country during war. We've never experienced it on our shores, but this is what it could look like." It brought to my mind images of hundreds of Afghanis and Iraqis fleeing to other countries during their times of strife. <p> In case you can't tell, I really do like the movie, so I'm glad to participate in a discussion with you on this, especially with regards to this subject of intent and playing on current fears. <p> And I find Episode II and III's Palpatine and his political machinations to be brilliant, and a great commentary on current political times too.
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You're questioning the narrative logic of Tranformers to try and make your point?! You fucking idiot.<p> Yes, the twins were about cheesy laughs; unfortunately they were not funny. They were not racist however, but just piss-poor unfunny stereotypes. There is a difference - learn it.
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Crystal Skullfuck so much. To have witnessed spielberg achieve such heights and then to plunder to such deaths, and all for the most basic dumb mistakes imaginable, it's bewildering. I can't even fucking beleive the same guy who made Crystal Skullfuck is the same guy who did Munich. Or Raiders Of The Lost Ark, for that matter.
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I really don't have a good feeling about it!
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I never said the Twins were a *good* idea, and the only explanation is that they got their personalities by watching MTV and finding personalities they liked and enjoyed and thought were a good fit for their own.
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You should qwuestion the narrative logic of EVERY MOVIE. Why should Bay's shit mvoies get a free pass? Why the fuck should his movies get a free pass? Why should his fucking movies and that pussy ass fuckign hack should be isempt of that? That's the very fucking reason why Bay keeps on making those terrible movuies, this lenience stupidity to those terrible stupid dumb shit movies. Who then fuck is Michael Bay to have merits such forgivess you don't even give to Spielberg or Scorsese? Who the fuck is Michael Bay to get free passes? Fuck that attitude, man! Fuck that bullshit!<br><br>And fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay. Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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Not exactly. Just because an offensive stereotype might have some redeeming 'heroic' qualities, does not mitigate the inherent offensiveness of the stereotype. Charlie Chan for example, was 'heroic, but ask just about any Chinese or Asian at the time he was popular if they thought he was a role model and the answer was no. Using the example of Eddie Murphy, he was ostensibly the hero in all of his R rated movies from the eighties, funny as hell too. But he certainly played the racial stereotype - not as offensively as some, but take a look at the brilliant Robert Townsend send up called Hollywood Shuffle, in it he shows how Murphy cashed in on the face mugging,outlandish, fast and loud talking stereotype.<p> I do not have a problem with stereotypes as long as they are clearly shown to be so. Meaning: Go for the joke if you must, but balance that extremity with a truthful representation of the race or group you just stereotyped. Balance it. If the twins had been heroic, it still would have been offensive because they still would have been the only 'Black' portrayals outside of the forgettable 'My other ass-cheek' Tyrese.
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass.
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He does seem to bring out the best in people.
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"I think Catch Me If You Can is more a filmmaking achievement then a story or narrative achievement. While i don't think the story is bad, i think the movie works more like a colelction of great moments of filmmaking from a very talented filmmaker. It's the kind of movie one would like more because of how well it's made then because it tells some really good story. <P> And Munich is a masterpiece, it's easily one of Spielberg's best." <P>Pretentious little cockchafer. <P>Munich isn't anywhere near Spielberg's top films and is certainly not a masterpiece. Only a goat-blowing tongue cleaner from the land of hairy-backed women would think that.
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My point is nothing to do with Bay - you're questioning the logic of a film where robots have lips, teeth, are autonomous, etc.<p> Within the conext of the film, the twins/Jazz getting their personalities from MTV stereotypes is just as reasonable as anything else.
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Our despise for Michael Shit Bay. And that's how it should be. That alone makes you my friend.
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No, it's not reasonable, no it's not logical, it's all bulslhit. The two black racist joke robots MAKE absolutly not fucking sense whatsoever. Really, tell me, how in the story those robots can make sense. How two robots form outer space would incorporate into them character traits of illiterated blacks, and what porpose it would serve them in their desguise as autobots? What is the fucking point? for a fucking cheessy joke? That's TERRIBLE STUPID RETARD FILMMAKING. It's completly unexcusable! It's stupid. It's retard. And it's unexcusable. Bay is a shit for doing it, Orci is a shit for doing it, and the people who loved that and endorsed it are even mroe stupid and shitty then Bay and Orci.
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you're like a piss stained wino degenerate that parks his fat shit-smeared self next to a complete stranger on the bus and slurs "you're my beshtest mate, you are" <P>Except slightly less coherent.
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just to help you out.
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When I read the title "we have something in common" I was all like "Wow, you're a warrior for peace and justice by day and a lover of women at night as well?!?!". It turns out you meant we both think Michael Bay is an untalented hack. Damn. So close to finding my equal, and yet so far.
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Weren't they the only Bots to tangle with Devastator and protect the kids?
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But still; my point is whether you find the stereotype offensive or not, it is still not racism, and nor is Bay racist.<p> Switch on MTV and you're more or less guaranteed to see some gangsta rapper not too far removed from how Jazz or the twins act.
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Well, that IS interesting... If that was his intention then hats off to him.
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Your words not mine. Until you denounce that piece of shit your opinions will continue to be suspect.
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I can always loan you my Zorro outfit.
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Of course i said STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is a good movie. Only a retard would disagree.
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Of course i said STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is a good movie. Only a retard would disagree.
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wai wait wait... TPM is THE PHAMTOM MENACE? Or are you fucking it up?
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Pull your head out of your arse and listen:<p> Is the idea of robots watching MTV and thinking that's how humans behave anymore illogical than transforming into vehicles, having teeth and or lips, pissing oil or anything else IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FUCKING FILM, you retard.
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Of course, I don't KNOW his intention. I can only speculate =).
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But why would Bay take a stereotype from MTV? That is like taking a stereotype from Hee Haw. <p> Bay is not obligated to provide a 'a fair and balanced' portrayal of any group or ethnicity, but when he or any other offends, he damn sure better be prepared to take the heat. <p> Are you suggesting that MTV rappers is the only place were Bay could find a portrayal of Blacks? I do not think you are, and that certainly is not the case that MTV is the only avenue, so that means he deliberately chose that route - the lowest common denominator for the sake of a joke, and provided no other means to balance it. In a movie as long as TF2 he could not find the time to balance that offensive portrayal? <p> Do I think Mikey is a racist? No. I do not. I think he is a supremely insensitive tongue cleaner, but he is not Lucas class racist. <p> But he promulgates racist stereotypes, and while not being a racist, it certainly IS racist to do that.
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What, the one you wear to molest kids in? <P>The flashing blade, indeed.
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'Bay's insensitivity and borderline racism came from not balancing the offensive stereotypes.' the above is exactly what i said in an old TF2 talkback in order to defend Bay.I agree that its exactly the reason what the TF2 looks racist,because there is no balance in the potrayal of stereotypes. <p>But in TF1 we did have a little variety in the multirace stereotypes: Tha black kid who was the best hacker in the world which means he was at least a genius, the latin soldier guy who couldnt wait to go home to see his family,the scene with the white soldiery guy who wasnt your typical badass military dude,but a man who had a wife and a baby and loved them,u had the arabian kid who wasnt a dwarf like in TF2,but brave enough to help the soldiers. <p>So yes its the hyperbole and the excessive use of the stereotypes in the second movie,which make the film and Bay look like racists.Bay is not intentionally racist,but following the typical formula of the sequels: Bigger and louder is better,he just lost the balance and we have these results . <p>And yes i know that not all the black people are like those that MTV promotes every day,but unfortunately the brainwash from MTV and the rest of the entertainment industry,affects the audience's general perception in a harmful way.
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Racism through hackery is still racism. It's just more collateral damage racism.
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We are in total agreement.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST
Harry potter and the poa is fuckin awesome
by supercowbell5THECOWBELLHASSPOKEN
fuck off
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As pointed out earlier, he does balance out the stereotypes by having the twins take on Devastator and protect the kids.<p> Let's be honest - if you took your impression of what black people are really like from a lot of popular TV, you're gonna get a lot of stereotyping.<p> Just out of interest, I wonder what ethnic group the twins' voice actors were...
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Your post (even though i have not read a word of it) makes me insane with anger, i think it is the worst thing my conciousness has happened across in the previous 5 mins. i am considering rubbing marmite in my eyes and walking into a high velocity zone, you are a plauge upon this website, you fester and ooze excrement from your every pour. a pox on you. may all your future siblings be mal-formed wilderbeast, and whatever reply you give i will not read, but it will fill me with anger anyway. May all the children in the worchildren in the world be burned and buggered at BBQs. May we give thanks to god
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hot half asian skank who disrespects her culture every time she opens her mouth
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Paul Blart: Cute <p> The Watchmen: Better than most will admit <p> Observe and Report: Awesome, Seth Rogan's best movie. <p> Last House on the Left: Fucked up, but good. <p> Crank 2: Awesome part 2 <p> Wolverine: I've seen monkeys make better shit. <p> The Hangover: Hilarious, made me forget Wolverine. <p> JJ'S Star Trek: Best Bones impersonation ever! <p> Land Of The Lost: Hilarious part 2 <p> Terminator Salvation: Entertaining, However it failed as a continuous story-line for John Conner, should've been called "Along came Marcus." <p> Transformers 2: What? <p> G.I. Joe: Best Goofy. Big Popcorn Summer movie in years. It was ridiculous, in a good way. <p> Drag Me to Hell: Not bad but should've been called, EviL Dead 4: MEET THE NEW BITCH TO GET TOSSED AROUND A ROOM BY DEMONS AND SHIT. <p> Moon: Listen, I like Sam Rockwell as much as anybody But Will Smith and Tom Hanks filled my quota for films with the "one fucker" the majority of the ride films. <p> Halloween 2: Never thought I would see a director lose his fucking mind during production before. <p> The Hurt Locker: Classic Bigelow, <p> So you see? It's nobody's fault... Other than The Hurt Locker, A bunch of shit oozed out of Hollywood's ass over the last 9 months.
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I think you missed my Charlie Chan analogy. It matters not if the offensive stereotype does something heroic. The stereotype is not balanced by an heroic act - they are still 'jive' talking lowest common denominator comic relief. A stereotype does not have to be a villain to still be offensive. <p> I do not watch much TV, so I will take your word for it that the portrayals on other shows are not that positive.
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I'd rather watch TF2 then sit through wolverine again.
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Damn, this guy is more of a TF apologist than Lockes.Ah, desperate attempts to "excuse" Bay's shitty sequel. I also forgot that the movie was also mysoginist as well as racist.<p>And fuck Spielberg too, that cocksnot sold his soul since KOTCS.i can't bear to watch that shit fest again even though a friend offered to give me the BluRay copy.Stevie had jumped the shark when he nuked the fridge.
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Those two movies were the most boring shit i ever seen in my whole life. I almost dozzed off, and i never dozz off when i'm watching a movie for the first time in a theater. Worst, BB2, i saw it in a café packed wioth people, and i still almost feel asleep. That's how fucking bored i got watching that shit not evne the people around was able to keep me awake. Fuckign shit, Michael Bay's mvoies are not only stupid, retard and badly made, they are also very fucking boring.
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Only zombies would find anything of interest in any Bay shit movie.
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Lawerence and Smith rip of their Klan hoods I turned the DVD player off. Will Will Smith ever make a decent movie?
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Bulslhit! MTV??? Is that how a robot would get an inspiration to gain character traits from an illiterate black dude? Is there amny illiterate black dudes on MTV? Is there the best place to get to copy an illiterate black dude? And also, what's the fundamental advantage to inpersonate and fully copy to the point of complete illiteracy a black dude who can't read? What's the fucking tactical advantage in that? Can you answer that? Or are you just making blind excuses to justify a retarded movie and the retarded filmmakers who made it?
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The answer is no. ALI came before Bad Boys 2.
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Legend of Bagger Vance was good. Can't say I've seen very many of his other films though, crazybubba
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Yes, you are correct about the dude. All this Gays For Bay can't find a single good ezxcuse to justify the shit that Bay puts in his movies. Justy check out the pathetic excuses he makes to justify the illiterate twin robots. If you could call that an excuse!
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and I concur with MOST of what you said.(Paul Blart?!? WTF?) Too bad you didn't give us your take on District 9.That was the sci fi equivilent of Hurt Locker...actually a little better if ya ask me.
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Asimov--you're right.
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And after I Am Legend, i want him to go fuck himself up in his fucking ass. Fuck Will Smith, man! That fucking guy made himself into a painted face caricature. If i was an american black man, i would thrown shit at his face.
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In no particular order; Inglorious Basterds, Up, Watchmen, District 9 and Hangover. <p> Yet to see Moon or Hurt Locker
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It was appropriate for the time in which the movie was set. Or are you going to get all PC and rewrite history? And Asimov, though I disagree with you about Star Trek (thought the only parts that were "WTF" were the swollen hands and Spock jettisoning Kirk to that ice planet.... HUH? What happened to putting people in the brig? - Instead we'll jettison them to their probable death?... But I digress. I was going to say, other than Trek, I still agree with everything you've posted. I will never see TF2. Ever.
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The Hurt Locker and District 9 felt like salvation to me. The movies that stoped my despair for this year's cinema. Even Mann's Public Enemies, good that it is, felt a bit of a let down, or rather, as Mann going through the motions (which is far better then most people's best job). But realyl, it was district 9 and The Hurt locker who really felt like the first proper good movies of the year. Can't wait for Moon, The Road and The Informant!.
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Looking forward to that one. Only movie lately that's looked even remotely good.
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...Although Dist9 looked a bit intriguing. Anyone see "9"? Curious about that one. Seemed like it had potential.
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And it's not even good on the "goofy shit to laugh at". No, it's all bad. terrible, terrible. The mvie was so bad, the only thing me and my mates who watched it was to watch at Moon Goodblood. We only perked up when she was onscreen. Otherwise, it as comma city. Fucking useless piec eof shit movie. Made not one iota of sense. I'ts like to shake the hands and head butt the idiots who though that hiring McG to make a Terminator movie was a good idea. Who the fuck are this clowns?
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Paul Blart was a parody of Die Hard with a fat dude. It wasn't great but it was... Cute, I laughed more than twice. <p> That's all I got. <p> But you're correct I forgot, <p> District 9: Inspiring, Breath of fresh air, in a era running rampant with coke sniffing, money grubbing, BAYONITES. <p> kinda make you REALLY wonder why those other movies I mentioned, some with 100 million dollars plus budgets were so shitty?
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Oct. 2, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST
Would say my top 5 is the weakest top 5 for some time
by Miyamoto_Musashi
But as I said yet to see Hurt Locker or Moon and still have 3 months left
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Oct. 2, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST
This year until and with the summer in movies was all merda
by AsimovLives
Merda! All shit! And i'm still laughing at the people who though that Zackmen is a smart and deep good movie. That was the first indication this year was fucked up!
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The Hurt Locker and District 9. The remaining 3 are not filled because i don't want to spoil those two good movies with this year's shittiness.
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I saw it this year. Darn good movie! Really good!
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That TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN (aka BIGGEST BULLSHIT OF A FILM) was not Roberto Orci's and Alex Krutzman's fault!
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I'm defending TF2 now?! Bay apologist?! I only remember saying it wasn't racist; not defending the film or Bay any further than than, you pair of intellectual fucking lightweights.<p> The robots can't read - so fucking what? Are there no stupid black people?<p> Short answer; Bay is not a racist - you don't make films with black leads as the heroes if you're a fucking racist, do you?<p> To be honest I could live my whole life without seeing another Bay film and not be worse off for it, but fuckwits throwing accusations of racism about when they don't even know the meaning of the fucking word just pisses me off.
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Oh no, it was all just Bay's fault. The movie wrote itself, didn't it? No, amn Porci and Klutzman are almost as much to be blamed for that shit as Bay. Yes, Bay is more to blame, but the blame doesn't die single in regarding this movie. No,Porci and Klutzman are also to blame. They are not getting out of this scott free, no they aren't!
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so u didnt like Watchmen either
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Nice try trying to disguise it, but fail.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST
The only great movie Will SMITH starred in was.....
by bizarroAsimovlives
Six Degrees of Separation. He made this around the time he was still doing Fresh Price of Bel-Air. Ironically Asimovlives, he gets fucked in his ass! <p> Dude broke 100 million with eight different pictures, eight! Yeah sure they were shit but that's still impressive
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It's not hate, it's common sense.
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And that's it is it? When your miniscule resources of intellect run out, all you have left is calling me gay?!<p> Oh fuck off, insect!
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And he did a very good action job on them. Personally, i think his work on Ali is brillant. and then he became the farce he is today. Fuck him. diouble fuck him for wasting the talent he once had with the buillshit he makes today. The fucker is just greed on two legs. And he can take his anoying brat son of his with him.
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he doesn't give a shit about anyone other than himself, think he is pretty equal in that respect.
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Ali and Six Degrees Of Seperation
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and then he find black stereotypes particullary funny. No, the fucker is racist alright.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST
Pawprint: You asked "Are there no stupid black people?"
by bizarroAsimovlives
To answer your dumb ass question <p> "Yes there are and if you were standing next to one when you said that, an ass kicking would not be far behind. You would have "PAW PRINTS" all over the left side of your jaw. <p> Don't be ridiculous, stupidity knows no color.
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Oct. 2, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST
Pawprint: You asked "Are there no stupid black people?"
by bizarroAsimovlives
To answer your dumb ass question <p> "Yes there are and if you were standing next to one when you said that, an ass kicking would not be far behind. You would have "PAW PRINTS" all over the left side of your jaw. <p> Don't be ridiculous, stupidity knows no color.
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You got a lot of cheek! Defending the most retarded movie made in the last 4 decades, and then you call somebody else stupid. The irony of that is so thick you would need a chainsaw to cut through it.
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Just a few quotes from AsimovLives - all from different posts:<p> "And after I Am Legend, i want him to go fuck himself up in his fucking ass."<p> "Fuck Michael Bay up his fucking ass." <p> "He deserves to take every insult thrown at it... UP IN HIS FUCKING ASS!" <p> Please don't live out your cum and shit stained day-dreams in here.
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R-rated TERMINATOR SALVATION Director's Cut on the Blu-Ray way in a month or so.<p> BALE WILL HAVE HIS REEEEVENGE!!!!!
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Oct. 2, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST
Gays forBay should never coment on somebody else's intelligence
by AsimovLives
Makes them look even more stupid then they are.