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Merrick Sees A Lotta AVATAR Footage!! + Some High Res Images From AVATAR Hit The Net!! + TITANIC in 3-D?? And More!!
Merrick here...
The folks over at Spoiler TV have some high res images from AVATAR. We've seen many (if not all) of these pics before - although I don't believe they've been made available to us in this size and clarity yet.
I'm still working to process the AVATAR footage revealed last night at Fantastic Fest. It was quite a bit of material. As I understand the matter, some of this footage had been screened before (AVATAR Day, Comic-Con, etc.) and some of it was being revealed for the first time last night.
Overall impressions?
Fragments of James Horner's score could be heard throughout the footage - it's seems highly melodic and dreamy. In the sequences we saw, the music was more ethereal and understated than 'big'.
The editing, camera movement, and fantastic (razor sharp & headache free) 3-D often create a mesmerizing effect that is pleasantly disorienting. In this regard, the footage triumphed.
The Na'vi....
I was surprised by how well the Thundersmurf's performances worked - i.e. their characterizations are what ultimately pulled me into the film, and very quickly. This is particularly true in regards to Zoe Saldana's 'Neytiri' - we've seen characters similar to her before, but you buy into this one fast.
The Na'vi are believable, fully realized, and diverse characters - not just special effects. This is a commendable triumph, no easy task, and pleasant surprise which is not at all evident from the trailers. Hopefully future trailers will boost-up this aspect of the film - the CGI performances here are often far more impressive than the action surrounding them.
Strangely, I was much less impressed with the Na'vi movements. In a few shots they didn't seem to have a natural range of motion or weight. Producer Jon Landau was on hand to talk about the making of the film (and the state of film making in general) - really fascinating insights I could've listened to all night. At one point, Jon more or less dismissed the importance of photo-realism, saying (paraphrasing here), "Since none of the creatures we see in the film actually exist, who's to say how 'real' they look."
I get where he's coming from, but I would argue that most viewers have an innate sense of whether something FEELS "right" or not. We instinctively sense when the physical laws around us aren't being replicated on screen. And, even though a film may take place on an alien world, viewers NEED to be grounded in some kind of familiar physical reality so that we can better associate with the narrative. I'm not sure if this is making sense?
Lemme try it this way: for me, the issue here isn't "photorealism" as much as - "Does the object I'm looking at feel like it's operating correctly in our physical universe?" "Does X character move like a living being with skin, or like Gumby?" In the footage we saw last night, the Na'vi...and the creatures around them...often felt utterly convincing.
However, there were a number of shots where the Na'vi felt like they were gliding/sliding instead of hitting the ground. Or their movement felt more like very good stop motion puppet than a being that is fluidly alive. These glitches didn't feel like they were character traits - they felt like visual effects that were struggling to find their way over that fallen tree trunk, onto the dinosaur battle bird, or across the screen.
When we've psychologically/emotionally invested in these effects as characters (which AVATAR nails), such imprecision pulls viewers OUT of the immediacy of the narrative...reminds us we're only watching a buncha digital stuff...at which point we have to let ourselves get pulled back into the film...only to be pulled out again...etc. Which...is kinda exhausting.
And that was my overall impression of the footage we saw. There are moments/sequences here that are genuinely beguiling and beautiful - and effects that work as well as (or better than) any effect ever has. But there are also moments (creatures, settings, etc.) that don't feel much more evolved than stuff we saw in the STAR WARS prequels - a little cartoony, lacking a certain grounding, and never quite as immersive as they were probably intended to be. And when much of the film is told using these effects...
On the whole, I'm thinking much of AVATAR will work nicely as a character driven piece. But I also suspect it may end up being a frustrating movie at times - possibly unable to sustain the magic (and I'd even say lyricism) it sometimes conjures so brilliantly. But it's not fair to make such a broad assertion based on roughly one quarter of the film - so don't take anything I'm saying here as any kind of final judgment. Just voicing a suspicion...a guess. And I'd love to be wrong. Its performances will likely save the day. Or, perhaps the film will become bulletproof if audiences adapt a "The real world is over here...and our totally stylized Land of Oz is over here" mentality while viewing it.
Come what may, and despite such trepidations, I really, really do want to see more. Like...tomorrow.
OTHER NOTES OF INTEREST:
** Landau indicated that efforts are underway to convert TITANIC to 3-D; towards this end tests have already been run. T2 and ALIENS were also mentioned as probably/desirable 3-D conversion candidates. Hopefully an official announcement about TITANIC can be made within the coming year.
** Depending on the extent to which AVATAR earns its keep, further adventures in the film's universe/on its planetary setting of Pandora are likely - whether in book form, movie form, or whatever.
** Landau says Jim Cameron already has several scripts for other projects in development and it's not likely he'll take ten years to make his next feature film.
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Reader Talkback
first by ECUPirate71 | Oct 1st, 2009 11:00:24 AM | balls by the new transported man | Oct 1st, 2009 11:00:40 AM | Second. by The Fly on the Wall | Oct 1st, 2009 11:00:46 AM | Shit... by The Fly on the Wall | Oct 1st, 2009 11:00:59 AM | I can't wait by ECUPirate71 | Oct 1st, 2009 11:01:36 AM | Third. by the new transported man | Oct 1st, 2009 11:01:47 AM | Jesus the detail in those
chars is amazing by bongo123 | Oct 1st, 2009 11:06:11 AM | Titanic 3-D? Aliens 3-D? by ebonic_plague | Oct 1st, 2009 11:06:35 AM | REMINDS ME OFF EP1 by medicinaluser | Oct 1st, 2009 11:07:44 AM | Great insights, Merrick. I
completely agree re: CG by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 11:08:03 AM | Buy the rights to TERMINATOR
Cameron and Landau! by ABking | Oct 1st, 2009 11:08:53 AM | Yack by Merrick | Oct 1st, 2009 11:11:31 AM | YES! I told ya in the A-Day:
"They're not *HUMAN* REALISTIC
b/c. by The_Hypnotoad | Oct 1st, 2009 11:12:18 AM | Tunnel EarRing by medicinaluser | Oct 1st, 2009 11:15:05 AM | Cool, Merrick. by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 11:16:39 AM | Physics by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 11:16:59 AM | Wow, the SW Prequel defenders
. . . by Nice Marmot | Oct 1st, 2009 11:18:35 AM | No different than Stop-Motion
effects by D.Vader | Oct 1st, 2009 11:20:25 AM | Fern Gully by enderandrew | Oct 1st, 2009 11:21:44 AM | Lets be real: AVATAR might
flop with 140 million by ABking | Oct 1st, 2009 11:27:46 AM | Star Wars prequels by enderandrew | Oct 1st, 2009 11:31:00 AM | Dolemite Vader, a retort by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 11:32:34 AM | enderandrew- Nope, episode 2
is the best by bullet3 | Oct 1st, 2009 11:34:37 AM | To be clear, I'm looking
forward to seeing AVATAR by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 11:34:56 AM | Yackbacker, true enough by D.Vader | Oct 1st, 2009 11:36:01 AM | "George Lucas has stained our
souls." by medicinaluser | Oct 1st, 2009 11:38:26 AM | enderandrew, you are spot on! by ABking | Oct 1st, 2009 11:38:34 AM | Merrick hits the problem with
CG on the head. by RandySavage | Oct 1st, 2009 11:39:45 AM | Come back to Terminator! by Judge Briggs | Oct 1st, 2009 11:40:27 AM | Episode III is awesome by D.Vader | Oct 1st, 2009 11:41:48 AM | Roman Polanski rapes
childhoods, George Lucas... by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 11:45:47 AM | LOTS OF BLUE CAT PEOPLE SEX
COMING THIS DECEMBER by HaterofCrap | Oct 1st, 2009 11:47:17 AM | Episode III has good elements by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 11:48:38 AM | They kind of look liker Jell-O
people by REVENGE_of_FETT | Oct 1st, 2009 11:54:55 AM | Peter Jackson got it right. by knowthyself | Oct 1st, 2009 11:55:01 AM | AVATAR & TERMINATOR by ABking | Oct 1st, 2009 11:58:55 AM | Another prob with avatar...the
universe is TOO clean. by knowthyself | Oct 1st, 2009 12:00:05 PM | I meant devil's backbone haha. by knowthyself | Oct 1st, 2009 12:00:44 PM | The Order 66 scene is pretty
great by D.Vader | Oct 1st, 2009 12:01:15 PM | Del Toro is this generation's
James Cameron? by D.Vader | Oct 1st, 2009 12:02:09 PM | Not a stretch. by knowthyself | Oct 1st, 2009 12:03:09 PM | Nah, knowthyself by D.Vader | Oct 1st, 2009 12:06:12 PM | Del Toro and Cameron have
similar career paths by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 12:06:19 PM | Guillermo can go toe to toe
with Mr. Underwater anyday. by knowthyself | Oct 1st, 2009 12:06:29 PM | In terms of resourcefullness
he definitely might be by bullet3 | Oct 1st, 2009 12:06:54 PM | But seriously, Del Toro is
more like TIm Burton... but
better by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 12:07:05 PM | And Terminator=Hellboy?!!
You're out of your mind. by bullet3 | Oct 1st, 2009 12:08:19 PM | I still say by clever_screen_name | Oct 1st, 2009 12:08:46 PM | Titanic in 3D is old news! by scriptgirl_nipples | Oct 1st, 2009 12:09:19 PM | I'm crazy....crazy like a fox.
by knowthyself | Oct 1st, 2009 12:12:36 PM | Hmm, bullet3 by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 12:12:40 PM | ...hmm, movement and weight
were my main complaints... by FlickaPoo | Oct 1st, 2009 12:15:24 PM | ...you can get away with that
sort of thing in
stop-motion... by FlickaPoo | Oct 1st, 2009 12:17:48 PM | Merrick did you get the sense
Landau was soft-pedaling by toadkillerdog | Oct 1st, 2009 12:22:03 PM | Not so enthused by Guy Grand | Oct 1st, 2009 12:22:51 PM | Wallpaper by REVENGE_of_FETT | Oct 1st, 2009 12:23:15 PM | Swine flu will kill Avatar by Megan_Fox_sucks_cocks | Oct 1st, 2009 12:27:12 PM | The MMORPG crowd will love
this by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 12:29:51 PM | Cameron for Superman. by Se7en | Oct 1st, 2009 12:30:22 PM | I reported the 3D Titanic here
about a week ago by ricarleite2 | Oct 1st, 2009 12:38:25 PM | clearly a bullshit excuse as
to why they don't look 'real' by just pillow talk | Oct 1st, 2009 12:41:58 PM | I DON'T EXPECT THE CGI TO BE
FLAWLESSLY REALISTIC by BringingSexyBack | Oct 1st, 2009 12:45:03 PM | Still looks like a video
game... by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester | Oct 1st, 2009 12:46:56 PM | Kate Winslet in 3-D by Disney_Retcond_my_STD | Oct 1st, 2009 12:47:18 PM | THERE'S A BOAT,
JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by BringingSexyBack | Oct 1st, 2009 12:59:48 PM | My Dinner with Andre in 3D! by Simpsonian | Oct 1st, 2009 01:09:35 PM | Definitely NOT seeing AVATAR by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 01:26:55 PM | Videogame adaptaions rarely
work- Cameron has the
solution! by philosopher | Oct 1st, 2009 01:31:21 PM | Key differences between
practical and CG effects: by kevred | Oct 1st, 2009 01:33:46 PM | Swine Flu will scare idiots
who are fucking retarded by Tall_Boy66 | Oct 1st, 2009 01:33:55 PM | knowthyself by philosopher | Oct 1st, 2009 01:36:01 PM | CGI fools us all the time, we
just don't realize it by REVENGE_of_FETT | Oct 1st, 2009 01:59:06 PM | Movement and weight are
problems with most Americans by Klytus_I.m_Bored | Oct 1st, 2009 02:00:06 PM | Titanic 3D, what the fuck? by wowsucks | Oct 1st, 2009 02:08:31 PM | The Abyss 3D please Iron Jim. by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 1st, 2009 02:09:52 PM | The Abyss 3D please Iron Jim. by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 1st, 2009 02:09:52 PM | Awesome TItanic 3-D! by Series7 | Oct 1st, 2009 02:11:18 PM | Now that I think about that by Series7 | Oct 1st, 2009 02:11:59 PM | Kevred - right on! by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 02:12:32 PM | E-mail was around in 1981. by Series7 | Oct 1st, 2009 02:13:23 PM | Ya, or look at something like
the end of robocop 2 by bullet3 | Oct 1st, 2009 02:17:03 PM | 250,000,000 dollars and the
CGI is not super great? Jeesh by Fandude7 | Oct 1st, 2009 02:18:22 PM | Series 7 - not LAN-based, only
host-based. by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 02:20:37 PM | I was at an antique mall a
couple weekends ago by Klytus_I.m_Bored | Oct 1st, 2009 02:21:34 PM | ninpobugei by Series7 | Oct 1st, 2009 02:22:52 PM | Loved the work on the humans
in the last shot by ReportAbuse | Oct 1st, 2009 02:28:09 PM | Can't wait for 3D Schindler's
List by ricarleite2 | Oct 1st, 2009 02:29:45 PM | YOU ARE ALL KNUCKLE-DRAGGING
NEANDERTHALS by BringingSexyBack | Oct 1st, 2009 02:31:32 PM | ninpobugei, Fight the power! by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 1st, 2009 02:36:01 PM | enderandrew by codymr | Oct 1st, 2009 02:36:54 PM | Fandude7 by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 1st, 2009 02:37:31 PM | I did find some moments of
floatiness by Johnno | Oct 1st, 2009 02:40:09 PM | T2 3D... by HarryCalder | Oct 1st, 2009 02:48:50 PM | I really want to fuck that big
blue girl by Fitzcarraldo2 | Oct 1st, 2009 02:50:24 PM | Cameron: All your eyes are
belong to us! by REVENGE_of_FETT | Oct 1st, 2009 02:53:11 PM | Hey Johnno in your opinion by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 02:55:12 PM | Must every talkback descend
into hand-wringing over Star
Wars? by jimmay | Oct 1st, 2009 02:58:54 PM | as for Avatar... by codymr | Oct 1st, 2009 03:01:14 PM | Anyone noticed... by Fortunesfool | Oct 1st, 2009 03:05:08 PM | Look, kids, it's titbag. by ebonic_plague | Oct 1st, 2009 03:05:15 PM | Avatar: the Spirits Within by Darth_Inedible | Oct 1st, 2009 03:07:04 PM | And people please remember, by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 03:07:54 PM | MERRICK IS AN IDIOT! by cloudrider` | Oct 1st, 2009 03:10:54 PM | Zemeckis's next project to be
a fully CGI Three Stooges pic by Darth_Inedible | Oct 1st, 2009 03:14:19 PM | TAINTLICK by BringingSexyBack | Oct 1st, 2009 03:26:40 PM | This Film Is About Mars by Media Messiah | Oct 1st, 2009 03:35:08 PM | cloudrider, Merrick was giving
his imrpessions by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 03:38:35 PM | Media Messiah, you need to
write a TV show by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 03:40:33 PM | MediaMessiah -- nonsense! by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 03:42:10 PM | aliens 3d, hell yeah by johnnylawless2 | Oct 1st, 2009 03:43:52 PM | Why I won't see AVATAR by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 03:44:38 PM | I Did Not Make This Up by Media Messiah | Oct 1st, 2009 03:49:45 PM | Look Up The Name "Major Ed
Dames" by Media Messiah | Oct 1st, 2009 03:53:16 PM | MediaMessiah... by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 03:55:18 PM | Sigourney Weaver looks like
OL' MOTHER CHRISTMAS.. by bizarroAsimovlives | Oct 1st, 2009 03:57:08 PM | ninpobugei your a cool hipster
we get it. by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 03:59:59 PM | Avatar will claim my eyes were
"asking for it"... by REVENGE_of_FETT | Oct 1st, 2009 04:01:50 PM | ALIENS in 3D will ROCK!! by GeorgieBoy | Oct 1st, 2009 04:02:32 PM | yackbacker by cloudrider` | Oct 1st, 2009 04:04:27 PM | Media Messiah by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 04:05:30 PM | ALL the Alien films in 3D! by REVENGE_of_FETT | Oct 1st, 2009 04:05:38 PM | ninpobugei by cloudrider` | Oct 1st, 2009 04:09:58 PM | Alien 3D.. by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 04:13:00 PM | I think you're being a bit
sensitive, cloudrider by YackBacker | Oct 1st, 2009 04:14:33 PM | YackBacker by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 04:18:20 PM | Jimmay: "Will film geeks get
over (Star Wars)?" by Big Dumb Ape | Oct 1st, 2009 04:18:53 PM | You guys are missing the point by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 04:19:30 PM | We ALL judge movies at first
glance or should by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 04:22:25 PM | CHARYOUTREE - I agree by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 04:25:41 PM | ninpobugei by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 04:27:34 PM | Some of you guys crack me up.
CHILL ALREADY! by Big Dumb Ape | Oct 1st, 2009 04:30:40 PM | here's what merrick said by cloudrider` | Oct 1st, 2009 04:30:59 PM | Trailers by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 04:32:07 PM | sounds great by Motoko Kusanagi | Oct 1st, 2009 04:37:12 PM | Avatar trailer by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 04:37:37 PM | So, what about that Wolfman
movie? by lockesbrokenleg | Oct 1st, 2009 04:39:34 PM | Big Dumb Ape -- your name
suits you by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 04:52:32 PM | District 9 - once again by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 1st, 2009 04:55:10 PM | Big Dumb Ape by NoHubris | Oct 1st, 2009 04:59:10 PM | Merrick about the discomfort
you have by ominus | Oct 1st, 2009 05:09:59 PM | Thunderbolt Ross sorry mate by ominus | Oct 1st, 2009 05:12:03 PM | titanic 3D will tank..just
watch by FleshMachine | Oct 1st, 2009 05:15:49 PM | The District 9 aliens did not
look real at all. by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 1st, 2009 05:18:25 PM | It's fine by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 1st, 2009 05:24:24 PM | your prediction of titanic 3D
is the same as by cloudrider` | Oct 1st, 2009 05:28:50 PM | Ross the D9 aliens dont have
the complexity by ominus | Oct 1st, 2009 05:29:47 PM | judging a movie based on its
trailer is retardo by cloudrider` | Oct 1st, 2009 05:34:37 PM | THUNDERBOLT ROSS -- excellent
points! by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 05:40:27 PM | CLOUDRIDER -- using the word
"retardo" is pretty damn
retarded. by ninpobugei | Oct 1st, 2009 05:42:24 PM | so, now you're "reserving
judgment"? by cloudrider` | Oct 1st, 2009 05:52:58 PM | The best CGI character by Adelai Niska | Oct 1st, 2009 05:53:25 PM | kwisatzhaderach & Asshole
Lives by quantize | Oct 1st, 2009 06:00:15 PM | ominus by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 1st, 2009 06:01:09 PM | good case for including Media
Messiah.. by quantize | Oct 1st, 2009 06:03:00 PM | And OF COURSE you judge a
movie based on the trailer ... by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 1st, 2009 06:03:16 PM | Titanic 3D: One question and
one question only: by FlurryOfChocolateGlazedKrispyK
remeDonuts | Oct 1st, 2009 06:04:03 PM | REVENGE_of_FETT, Those Clone
Troopers by GordoSan#1 | Oct 1st, 2009 06:10:41 PM | you look at the trailers
and... by cloudrider` | Oct 1st, 2009 06:15:19 PM | I HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THIS
AND IT'S A DOOZY!!!!!!! by BringingSexyBack | Oct 1st, 2009 06:22:53 PM | GOOD POINTS, GUYS by BringingSexyBack | Oct 1st, 2009 06:24:18 PM | I second Aliens in 3d by bullet3 | Oct 1st, 2009 06:26:22 PM | ALIENS IMAX 3D F_YEAH by blkfuturistic | Oct 1st, 2009 06:35:55 PM | Merrick, do you think... by Ace of Wands | Oct 1st, 2009 06:39:45 PM | the uncanny valley by filmweasel | Oct 1st, 2009 06:48:43 PM | @ knowthyself by CGIh8r | Oct 1st, 2009 06:55:50 PM | filweasel - That's a crock of
CGI by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Ta
stes | Oct 1st, 2009 07:00:00 PM | @ REVENGE_of_FETT by CGIh8r | Oct 1st, 2009 07:01:48 PM | With regard to immersion by dfinch01 | Oct 1st, 2009 07:05:51 PM | YES A NEW AVATAR TALKBACK by Spazatronik2000 | Oct 1st, 2009 07:09:40 PM | Ya I hate it when they reveal
way too much in the trailer by Spazatronik2000 | Oct 1st, 2009 07:23:52 PM | The prawns were completely
believable incontext.. by quantize | Oct 1st, 2009 07:59:55 PM | CharyouTree: Pandora And Mars,
Are One In The Same by Media Messiah | Oct 1st, 2009 08:15:06 PM | Media Messiah - *heavy sigh* by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Ta
stes | Oct 1st, 2009 08:32:30 PM | so the Na'vi are believable?
COOL! by Spazatronik2000 | Oct 1st, 2009 08:32:57 PM | Frankly, I don't care what the
promotional material looks
like by bullet3 | Oct 1st, 2009 08:33:01 PM | The 'context' being a cartoon by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Ta
stes | Oct 1st, 2009 08:34:32 PM | I think the reason everyone is
pissed, including Hitler by Spazatronik2000 | Oct 1st, 2009 08:38:28 PM | Media Messiah by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 08:42:27 PM | This movie is going to open
big by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Ta
stes | Oct 1st, 2009 08:46:29 PM | "you know nada about effects
work" - worst argument ever? by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 1st, 2009 08:58:19 PM | CharyouTree by Johnno | Oct 1st, 2009 09:00:23 PM | Cheers Johnno by CharyouTree | Oct 1st, 2009 09:05:13 PM | Thuderbolt Ross, your opinion
is wrong. by Evangelion217 | Oct 1st, 2009 09:10:21 PM | The hype's gonna hurt this... by BizarroJerry | Oct 1st, 2009 09:24:50 PM | Thunderbolt Ross by bullet3 | Oct 1st, 2009 09:41:54 PM | Looks like... by ObiBen | Oct 1st, 2009 09:48:00 PM | Third Bullet by Dirk_The_Amoeba | Oct 1st, 2009 09:54:18 PM | People who see photorealism in
these stills or the trailer by ObiBen | Oct 1st, 2009 10:13:08 PM | bullit3 is right by Spazatronik2000 | Oct 1st, 2009 10:20:02 PM | So, who here has seen a real
alien by lockesbrokenleg | Oct 1st, 2009 10:33:59 PM | Movies aren't real..and this
doesn't look real. by MacReady452 | Oct 1st, 2009 10:37:11 PM | Will you babies stop the
whining, at least the ones who
are bitc by corplhicks | Oct 1st, 2009 10:52:49 PM | Never seen a real alien by ObiBen | Oct 1st, 2009 11:09:37 PM | QT by future help | Oct 1st, 2009 11:11:42 PM | QT is doing KillBill 3 by future help | Oct 1st, 2009 11:12:33 PM | James Cameron RICK ROLLED
everybody by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 1st, 2009 11:36:16 PM | Speaking of Tranny where is
he? by odo19 | Oct 1st, 2009 11:37:43 PM | Episode 2 is the worst of the
prequels by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 1st, 2009 11:39:44 PM | REALLY? GEE! I MUST HAVE
MISSED THE 100 by lockesbrokenleg | Oct 2nd, 2009 12:00:37 AM | Planet of the apes by 420 Boylston St | Oct 2nd, 2009 12:46:09 AM | Finally got to see District 9
yesterday by Miyamoto_Musashi | Oct 2nd, 2009 12:52:47 AM | Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Ta
st es by Media Messiah | Oct 2nd, 2009 01:01:26 AM | CharyouTree: Hollywood & The
Government... by Media Messiah | Oct 2nd, 2009 01:39:37 AM | I can't be bothered to read
all the posts above by MorganLeafy | Oct 2nd, 2009 01:40:13 AM | Media Messiah, remote viewing
is total shit! by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 2nd, 2009 01:52:06 AM | Media Messiah by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 2nd, 2009 02:16:58 AM | Talkbacker: You Just Confirmed
The Reagan Story by Media Messiah | Oct 2nd, 2009 02:43:23 AM | by tomimt | Oct 2nd, 2009 02:45:31 AM | Are they gonna act surprised
when this movie bombs? by limboslam123 | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:03:16 AM | Avatar never had a chance. by Fortunesfool | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:15:31 AM | Thunderbolt Ross then your
problem by ominus | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:23:17 AM | bullet3 u said it all man by ominus | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:26:50 AM | ominus by Miyamoto_Musashi | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:57:31 AM | this is great by sherlock_junior | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:02:59 AM | Media Messiah by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:09:36 AM | Avatar has two things going
for it. by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:17:40 AM | quantize by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:21:21 AM | oh and Media Messiah by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:21:42 AM | kwisatzhaderach by quantize | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:36:00 AM | MediaMessiah, have you seen
the movie "Mysterious Skin"? by Chakraborty | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:20:03 AM | my thoughts by Potatino | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:22:41 AM | I trust the story will be
brilliant, too by Spazatronik2000 | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:59:53 AM | Media Messiah by medicinaluser | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:21:56 AM | You know, I'm hoping for the
best with this one... by SeXX ED | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:49:16 AM | Looks like fun... by I AM ROCKO | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:58:37 AM | AVATAR WILL ROCK EVERYBODIES
BLUE SUCKS OFF by sherlock_junior | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:09:20 AM | BLUE SOCKS by sherlock_junior | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:09:49 AM | And on that note, FUCK ALL
STAR TREK '09 HATERS! by SeXX ED | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:11:47 AM | GET AWAY FROM HER YOU BITCH!!! by Kief_Ledger | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:30:20 AM | SexxED...I actually agree with
you about by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:38:47 AM | WOW...... AVATAR by Trannyformers_Apologist | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:40:35 AM | SOUTHAFRICANGUY... by SeXX ED | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:51:34 AM | PHANTOM MENACE by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:31:34 AM | SexxED....thanks dude, I just
feel like I have by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:32:49 AM | Rizzo....where have you been
dude? Do you by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:35:13 AM | Ha! by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:41:15 AM | SOUTHAFRICANGUY - I feel you,
my man... by SeXX ED | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:43:00 AM | I actually hate the mainstream
internet tween nation by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:03:45 AM | SexxED....I think unfortunatly
Fandom has by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:03:57 AM | In fact by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:05:27 AM | Rizzo....agree with you, but
unfortuantly the by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:07:48 AM | MediaMessiah, dude, duuuude by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:08:23 AM | Wow by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:23:34 AM | South by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:24:10 AM | ok quantize by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:28:53 AM | Charyoutree....hey dude, I
have never posted by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:30:41 AM | thats why for all the shit he
gets, I like Harry by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:32:29 AM | Navi designs suck. by HoboCode | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:36:21 AM | Hey Kwis...hows it going dude?
Dont waste by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:36:37 AM | southafricanguy by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:41:46 AM | southafricanguy by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:44:27 AM | HoboCode by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:48:11 AM | ^^ I would'nt actually mind if
he was funny by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:54:20 AM | charyoutree....I hear you
dude, I m actually by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:56:55 AM | You have to remind yourself
that internet by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:00:37 AM | southafricanguy by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:02:14 AM | Hey Kwis...im good, how about
you? by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:02:48 AM | southafricanguy I agree by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:03:49 AM | southafricanguy by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:05:20 AM | Agreed Kwis.....I still
trulybelieve Cameron by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:05:25 AM | Your right about Transformers
also by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:06:53 AM | Charyoutree....exactly dude,
thats my point by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:08:51 AM | and the internet nerd rage can
be so damn by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:11:39 AM | Isn't this movie really the
next step in CG though? by TheWaqman | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:11:45 AM | O and TAINTLICK by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:12:12 AM | Dont worry Kwis...ill be
around when it comes by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:13:47 AM | Waqman.....you are right dude,
whats so fu by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:18:41 AM | And as you say, the
enviroments are quite by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:20:04 AM | HOBO! by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:20:08 AM | Right back at you
southafricanguy by kwisatzhaderach | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:23:49 AM | rizzo....but thats the
attitude i dont understan by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:28:33 AM | I read the old script for
Avatar years ago, and by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:31:33 AM | Rizzo by HoboCode | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:37:36 AM | The Algebraist by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:40:41 AM | charyoutree....yeah, I dont
get how so many by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:47:26 AM | southafricanguy by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:57:08 AM | CG vs Reality by Chesterfield Slacks | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:57:17 AM | charyoutree....Im right there
with you dude, by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:01:09 AM | Chesterfield...I totally see
where you are com by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:02:37 AM | I know dude by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:08:48 AM | Merrick said 'Thundersmurfs'! by BiggusDickus | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:09:03 AM | CGI by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:15:55 AM | Hobo...and all who like good,
fun movies by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:21:48 AM | TheWaqman is RIGHT , AVATAR IS
Impressive and will fuck our
eyeb by sherlock_junior | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:22:04 AM | South by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:28:02 AM | Spymunk Guarantee - Audiences
Will Yawn by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:47:55 AM | Notice Also the
Less-than-Subtle Shift by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:49:31 AM | These Movies AREN'T Good for
Genre Cinema, Guys! by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:52:55 AM | Oh, and for the record? by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 11:53:20 AM | ThusSpakeSpymunk by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 12:30:39 PM | DAVID LETTERMAN FUCN' INTERNS
IN 3D by Disney_Retcond_my_STD | Oct 2nd, 2009 12:41:13 PM | CharyouTree by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 12:49:57 PM | Well we shall disagree sir by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 01:08:33 PM | CharyouTree by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 01:15:21 PM | Rule 34 by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 01:24:32 PM | cartoony video game
indeed....bummer by FleshMachine | Oct 2nd, 2009 02:18:51 PM | I have to confess, I helped
create the design for the
Na'Vi by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:06:50 PM | Here's why I'm hoping that
this movie will fail: by BiggusDickus | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:12:04 PM | Canine Toad Murderer! by Dirk_The_Amoeba | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:40:57 PM | A Fucking Terminator sequel?
Really? by TheWaqman | Oct 2nd, 2009 03:49:03 PM | Nerd Rage = way too early to
say that.... by TheWaqman | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:06:32 PM | CharyouTree: Ronald Reagan... by Media Messiah | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:21:13 PM | Director's marriages affect
their work by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:21:49 PM | Cameron, Lycas = excellent
filmmakers by lockesbrokenleg | Oct 2nd, 2009 04:56:35 PM | i don't even know if tarantino
is married by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:00:37 PM | Media Messiah by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:02:34 PM | Media Messiah, oh you are
abandoning all rational
thought by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:08:48 PM | Anybody see the Family Guy ep
where Any Dick rolls into the
club by ToughGuyRizzo | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:09:44 PM | Fanboys... by TheUmpireStrokesBach | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:15:26 PM | CharyouTree by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:20:26 PM | Avatar will kick your ass and
take your name by lockesbrokenleg | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:26:48 PM | I want it to do something to
my ass ... by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:37:40 PM | Rule 34, CharyouTree by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 05:44:46 PM | Nerd Rage by ThusSpakeSpymunk | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:04:52 PM | Nerd_Rage by TheUmpireStrokesBach | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:11:49 PM | Not so much... by TheUmpireStrokesBach | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:17:19 PM | I'm aware... by TheUmpireStrokesBach | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:30:18 PM | "your opinion is wrong" by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:39:34 PM | ominus, bullet3 by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:44:18 PM | ThusSpakeSpymunk by CharyouTree | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:45:27 PM | Obama and Oprah were in
Copehagen to confer with the
Illuminati by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:48:51 PM | It doesn't look impressive.
That's really all there is to
it by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 2nd, 2009 06:57:46 PM | I'm looking forward to
Avatar... by ebonic_plague | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:17:40 PM | ebonic_lemming by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:25:00 PM | NRRS by ebonic_plague | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:25:36 PM | toadkillerrube by ebonic_plague | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:28:46 PM | They do indeed exist ebonic by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:32:33 PM | Ebonic, I am taking bets on
CTM1978's new name by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:37:44 PM | toadkillerdog by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:50:32 PM | Tim Burton movies always get a
free pass around here by lockesbrokenleg | Oct 2nd, 2009 07:55:06 PM | TBNN by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:02:12 PM | Wow, tkd... CTM got the ban? by ebonic_plague | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:23:36 PM | ebonic, that is funny! by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:26:20 PM | CTM1978's new names so far by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:28:45 PM | Hey TKD by DrMorbius | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:44:52 PM | Morbius! by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:46:43 PM | CTM1978's new names so far by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:48:00 PM | CTM1978's new names so far by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:53:27 PM | ConvictedTrannyMolestor1978? by Continentalop | Oct 2nd, 2009 08:58:40 PM | TKD by DrMorbius | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:02:06 PM | Sold! Conti coming in with a
strong entry in CTMstakes by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:03:20 PM | CTM1978's new names so far by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:05:22 PM | Hey Turd, hows it going dude?
Dont waste by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:05:59 PM | TAINTLICK IS TITBAG by Continentalop | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:06:21 PM | ConceivedThruMasterbation1978 by DrMorbius | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:07:41 PM | Holy shit TurdontheRun for the
muthafucking win!!! by TheWaqman | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:09:15 PM | I have no clue Morbius by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:11:13 PM | CTM1978's new names so far by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:16:53 PM | Nevermind that I think guys
like him and thus by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:21:39 PM | CokeheadedTrannyMonkeyfucker by Sal_Bando | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:22:56 PM | Conti said it's TITBAG by DrMorbius | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:23:23 PM | Anyone who hasn't seen Pirahna
II, by Sal_Bando | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:24:01 PM | ContinualTalkbackersMisfortune
1978 by Continentalop | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:30:42 PM | Sal - we have to go to the
board for a ruling on that one by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:31:35 PM | CuckoldedTurnedMisogynist1978 by Continentalop | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:34:48 PM | CTM1978's new names so far by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:38:05 PM | CravesTheMansac1978 by DrMorbius | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:38:27 PM | CravesTheMangina1978 by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:42:25 PM | CTM1978's new names so far by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:46:08 PM | Oh..and thusspake.....give it
a fucking rest by southafricanguy | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:49:13 PM | CertifiedToolMasticator by DrMorbius | Oct 2nd, 2009 09:54:47 PM | Morbius by toadkillerdog | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:07:46 PM | Later Dog! by DrMorbius | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:18:44 PM | People, please, we know you
hate Avatar by lockesbrokenleg | Oct 2nd, 2009 10:41:41 PM | Tall blue... by torpedoboy | Oct 3rd, 2009 12:15:31 AM | Oh Christ, Fagatar... by cheyne_stoking_DMS | Oct 3rd, 2009 12:16:38 AM | CTM name by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 3rd, 2009 02:15:18 AM | I can't understand the
complete hate against Avatar by AsimovLives | Oct 3rd, 2009 04:25:19 AM | welcome to fandom circa 2009
Asimov, its by southafricanguy | Oct 3rd, 2009 05:33:57 AM | Anyway....what do you think of
those photos by southafricanguy | Oct 3rd, 2009 05:35:33 AM | 16- by DutchDuck | Oct 3rd, 2009 08:54:16 AM | Thunderbolt Ross i am
referring to the aesthetics by ominus | Oct 3rd, 2009 09:39:33 AM | ominus by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 3rd, 2009 10:19:14 AM | Thunderbolt Ross by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 3rd, 2009 03:08:48 PM | To compare the navi to gollum
is insane by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 3rd, 2009 03:18:48 PM | All I have left to say about
Avatar is.. by MandrakeRoot | Oct 3rd, 2009 05:10:49 PM | A Real-D rerelease of ALIENS
would be tits!!! by eXcommunicated | Oct 3rd, 2009 07:47:18 PM | how can you be an apologist by Six Demon Bag | Oct 3rd, 2009 08:03:10 PM | and the DANCES WITH THE WOLVES
comparisons??? by Six Demon Bag | Oct 3rd, 2009 09:29:43 PM | Nerd Rage... by TheWaqman | Oct 3rd, 2009 10:45:04 PM | Well done Nerdrage...would you
like a cookie by southafricanguy | Oct 4th, 2009 12:06:14 AM | Waqman.....nerdrage and his
kind are just by southafricanguy | Oct 4th, 2009 12:07:31 AM | and just how fucking dumb is
this tool? by southafricanguy | Oct 4th, 2009 12:21:08 AM | Nerd_Retard by cloudrider` | Oct 4th, 2009 05:54:58 AM | Rule 1 for future AVATAR TB's by CharyouTree | Oct 4th, 2009 08:39:27 AM | Talkbacker by Thunderbolt Ross | Oct 4th, 2009 09:48:56 AM | TROLLTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL by CharyouTree | Oct 4th, 2009 01:31:09 PM | Thunderbolt Ross by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 4th, 2009 02:43:12 PM | Nerd_Rage, well done by Talkbacker with no name | Oct 4th, 2009 02:46:16 PM | Well I guess the talkbacks
needed the newest by southafricanguy | Oct 4th, 2009 07:48:12 PM | Cloudrider...we will have to
wait for hell to free by southafricanguy | Oct 4th, 2009 07:53:22 PM | THUNDA THUNDA THUNDA THUNDA
SMURFS! by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 5th, 2009 01:49:25 AM | how many rule 1's are there by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 5th, 2009 01:53:12 AM | OMG he used the "holier than
thou" statement... by TheWaqman | Oct 5th, 2009 10:38:16 AM | convulated.........convoluted? by DrMorbius | Oct 5th, 2009 11:14:29 AM | Reality will kill AVATAR by Todaysfate | Oct 5th, 2009 05:25:21 PM | You mean they let you near the
computer by southafricanguy | Oct 5th, 2009 07:49:33 PM | please keep posting here
nerdrage..lol by southafricanguy | Oct 5th, 2009 07:56:24 PM | No, shithead, you are by far
the single biggest by southafricanguy | Oct 5th, 2009 09:20:02 PM | oooh...you hate Avatar, how
edgy. by southafricanguy | Oct 5th, 2009 09:27:58 PM | November 27th 2009 by Todaysfate | Oct 5th, 2009 11:39:09 PM | Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength by CharyouTree | Oct 6th, 2009 02:11:18 AM | cameron's crappy marriages are
turning him into lucas by TakingScorpiosCalls | Oct 6th, 2009 03:21:26 AM |
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