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ABC Sunday Falls To Last Place!! CLEVELAND Beats SIMPSONS!! HOUSEWIVES Down 37%!! SISTERS Down 35%!! Ratings!!
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Lots of season premieres Sunday! The 18-49 numbers:
5.6 Colts at Cardinals
5.2 Family Guy
4.9 The Cleveland Show
4.5 Desperate Housewives
4.2 The Simpsons
3.6 American Dad
3.3 60 Minutes
3.2 The Amazing Race
3.1 Extreme Makeover (8pm)
3.0 Brothers & Sisters
2.1 Extreme Makeover (7pm)
1.9 Cold Case
* The debut of “Family Guy” spin-off “The Cleveland Show” brought in 1.2 million more viewers than the Seth Rogen-penned 21st season premiere of “The Simpsons.”
* “Desperate Housewives” and “Brothers & Sisters” fell 37% and 35%, respectively, from their 2008 premieres.
* “Cold Case” hid in the night's ratings cellar, down 33% from its 2008 premiere.
* “Family Guy” and “American Dad” were up 16% and 13%, respectively, from their 2008 premieres.
Find all of James Hibberd’s ratings analysis here.
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I saw commericials for Desperate Housewives and Brothers and Sisters the other day and was shocked to find out they were still on the air. Sort of like I'm shocked that they still make new Simpsons.
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give me a fucking break with that shit....absurd.
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Don't get me wrong, I like you Herc, you're a good guy, but these stories are UNNEEDED. If anything, you're only helping to perpetuate this terrible idea among today's TV execs that if something has lower ratings than another show, then its a failure. You're helping spread the idea that "Oh shit! This show's ratings are low! Time to cancel!" Its that kind of bullshit thinking, and the refusal to allow a show to grow or to have bad periods, that got Arrested Development and Veronica Mars and Firefly and Undeclared cancelled. Had that mentality prevailed in the past, then shows like Seinfeld would never have lasted more than one season. So please, as a fan of TV, I beg you to drop these stories on ratings. I don't want to hear it, and I don't want execs reading this site to see it and think it means "failure".
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Way unfunny. Except for the little duck.
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that 20 mil. I don't get it, but hey.
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'I don't want execs reading this site to see it and think it means "failure".'
Am I to understand you think I see these figures before the network execs do? -
Until I fell asleep about ten minutes in. Jesus, that guy needs some new schtick. Holy fuck, is that thing boring.
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Was it just me? I'll give it a couple more episodes, but I wasn't impressed.
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had 60 Minutes, The Amazing Race, and Cold Case actually started on time.
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. . . but Desperate Houswives is a good, fun show. Phew, that wasn't so hard.
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Seth Rogen wrote last night's Simpsons. I would have tuned in for that. Why no heads up, Herc?
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who find Seth McFarlane funny. I guess as a 30 year old, I am an old fogie now.
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The Ratings systems have been flawed for years (Star Trek anyone?). TV habits are not what they once were, with vcr, tivo, dvr, and every other darned thing- people's habits have changed. the numbers are interesting, but are essentially useless. TV Executives need to realize this
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The Ratings systems have been flawed for years (Star Trek anyone?). TV habits are not what they once were, with vcr, tivo, dvr, and every other darned thing- people's habits have changed. the numbers are interesting, but are essentially useless. TV Executives need to realize this
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But you posting about it, I worry, seems to back up the execs' fears that the ratings matter and are indicative of a show's quality.
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Herc, I think D.Vader's point was that buzz and fan appreciation may have a role in extending a show's life. So, in terms of encouraging quality TV, it may be more positive to have stories saying "this show is really good and deserves to stay on the air" than "these shows are failing because of poor ratings".I'm not saying that I entirely agree because network execs are ratings-obsessed enough as it is without AICN's input and I, too, like to know how well certain shows are doing in the ratings. But it is dispiriting to note that success is now judged almost solely in terms of ratings, box-office takings and sales. Instead of... oh, I don't know... quality?
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Did you guys mention he wrote the season premiere? I woulda been sure to catch it had I known.
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..."The Jay Leno Show" didn't come in last again last night. They should be encouraged by that.
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That's really the only think I was excited for Family Guy this year (like the show quite a bit, even though it's wildly uneven and can get tedious). It's Empire Strikes Back parody "Something Something Something Dark Side" was SUPPOSED to be the season premiere, but the DVD is coming out at X-Mas and it's not airing on TV until May as the season finale. Way to screw job me personally, Fox. As for my TV last night, I watched Entourage and Curb. Gonna get my illegal download on for FG and Simpsons (and, what the hell, I'll watch the pilot episode for Cleveland Show and probably never watch it again)
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Fox wants your green. They saw how enormously successful Blue Harvest was, and they know that if buying the SSDS ep on DVD is the only way people will be able to see it, they'll make a mint. Why give it to us for free when they could sell every viewing? That's good marketing. Also, FUCK YOU FOX, YOU GREED-CUNTS. We would have bought it anyway, just like Blue Harvest.
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Go on, get your illegal download on for something that's aired for free, shown on Hulu, and repeated a ton of times. You are a total bad ass, champ! We all respect your damn the man attitude.
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And on the flipside of the complaints, Herc letting you know that one of your favorite shows is getting middling ratings could potentially get one moving in spreading the word about said favorite show, which would of course affect DVR and online viewings (which don't count in a Nielsen sense but are stilled weighed by the networks).
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So hows that whole vagina thing coming along for you?I keed, I keed. Actually Housewives will throw in a witty line from time to time. And wit is not in MacFarlane's dictionary. I didn't see it, but a talking bear..? A dog, infant, alien and goldfish...I guess he couldn't break a habit.
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But I had no idea that Rogen was writing. So there you go.
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And of course it was written by guest writers. There were some seriously good one liners and the plot actually had a structure to it. Plus, Seth Rogen does some decent voice acting. I think like a lot of people he and Evan Goldberg grew up with this show at its peak so they respect the sense of humor more. Even stuff in the background was funny (Poster: Alvin and Chipmunks, Alvin gets rabies.)
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Its the only way to talk about shows that dont have a talkback.
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this many retards watch seth's shows....the manatees strike back
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I start with a vagina joke and then quote a talking dog puppet, THEN come down on MacFarlane? I guess I shouldn't post when a bit hungover.
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...in off-color remarks about the Holocaust and babies eating sperm.
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I feel your pain. But in all fairness, us thirty year olds are responsible for Family Guy having an audience in the first place. Way back in 1999, when we were gullible 20 year olds. We had a chance to let it die, but praised it back to life instead. Damn us.
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that segment was hilarious and i loved the animation look and style. i wonder who they got to animate that part. Stewie was just adorable. lol and what a nice jab at Robot Chicken from Stewie.
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Sure am missing King of the Hill after last night's weak offering from Fox (all 4 cartoons stunk)
Good thing Mad Men was one to make up for that abysmal night.
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37455
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I don't think I had one guffaw the entire show. I liked the opening them song...that was about it.
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2008.THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP, HERC.
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i didnt catch any shows last night, im sure the clevland show was awful.
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These things cost money, and it is expected they will bring back a profit. To them, quality means little if they are not showing a profit.
Also, to those illegally downloading these shows, remember, you are costing people jobs. Networks need advertisers to pay for these shows. If people are downloading, and not watching those ads, the networks lose out, and then the actors, writers, producers, directors, and other crew lose their jobs.
I thought we were still in a recession? -
It had some cute moments, an above-average episode for sure if it were not the WORST. EPISODE. EVER. (that's a joke from the episode, I actually really enjoyed it).
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50% of the first one was a re-telling of the actual movie- not a parody. And the whole "lightsaber as a penis" joke... wow, so fresh it blew my mind!!!!!!!!!!
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hit on the head as kids.
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Is still on the air? Who knew
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Sep 28, 2009 3:13:13 PM CDT
I don't find the Robot Chicken Star Wars things funny
by lockesbrokenleg
at all. They just fucking grate on my nerves.
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All soft "lesson" shows and they lost what made them funny for at least the 1st 10 years.
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I prefer it over Family Guy. Family Guy will make a reference to something that will have little to no relation to the episode's plot, it will simply be a sight-gag. Perhaps they might have a character making reference to, for example, the Vietnam war, then show a short take-off of Apocalypse Now, Platoon, or First Blood. American Dad, as they did last night, does the same thing but integrates it into the plot. I was laughing throughout the stuff with Steve on the golf course (the B-story with Roger was, at best, mildly amusing).That said (as Harry says), I did really enjoy last night's Family Guy, probably because all the "asides" were actually part of the plot. The Disney world was very well done and I'm glad they did it in this episode and didn't just randomly insert it into some episode with Peter saying "Say Brian, I had a dream last night we lived in a world drawn by Walt Disney".
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...when it was called "time and punishment" and it was a "simpsons" episode. and only took 10 minutes instead of 30. my jaw dropped when i saw that shit last night. alas, where would i be if i didn't hate on family guy every once in awhile. i still watch it, so shame on me i guess.
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My boyfriend, a non-TV geek, generally prefers Family Guy to The Simpsons (yet I still love him) but after watching last night's "Animation Domination", he said that The Simpsons was funnier than any of the MacFarlane shows (which isn't really fair, since Cleaveland and American Dad were *awful*).
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Not to stir the pot, but last night's episode was painful. I found myself watching the episode and thinking "did that even look funny on paper?" I hate to drink the haterade, but damn: paint-by-numbers predictable, and boring.
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You think someone involved with that would appear on this site? Seriously how does that shit work?
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...can anybody tell me what the reference was to the universe where the family was crudely drawn and they all just started going "ahhh!" I thought it may have been a jab at South Park, but that seems a bit of a stretch.
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Curb, Bored to Death, Entourage
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It could have been the duck show Peter was pitching when Lois was working for Fox News or it was a slam on all the Adult Swim cartoons that are poorly drawn, but people think are funny. I did like the Robot Chicken joke and most of the episodes. I though Cleveland was the better of the two, but then I again I post on this site, so I should hate it for no reasons other then its popular.
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I was selected to fill out a "diary" for a two week period in mid May yeeaars ago. I'd like to think I helped keep Millenium on the air for one more year.
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That's like find out that all of the "Golden Girls" are alive and their still making new episodes.
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Sep 28, 2009 4:10:20 PM CDT
"How does it feel to be on a major network for 30 seconds?",
by tangcameo
I think Stewie will be asking that of Cleveland when he comes back to Family Guy next season.
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Simpsons should have ending it about 5 years ago. It's just sad now.
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I laughed out loud when Mayor McCheese was assassinated a la Kennedy in the Family Guy episode.
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...and I think that's great. This kind of feels the same. It is somewhat perpetuating stats that I think we should be moving further away from. Viewership does not denote quality.
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I just can't get excited to watch the Cardinals play, particularly not after the spectacular Jets win over Tennessee.
J-E-T-S! The Dolphins game was pretty good too; sucks for them that Pennington's out. That guy's a pretty good quarterback, but he's made of glass, a walking injury waiting to happen.
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r telling us these shows r past
their prime desperate housewives
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wtf? im 33 and still find family guy funny and i like american dad too
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Simpsons - not bad. A few funny moments. Family Guy - Done better by "The Simpsons" a long time ago.
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will never pull a rating that high again
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...cause McFarlane is in his mid-30s. You'd have to be a kid in the 80s to get half the references. Same with Robot Chicken.
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and it was nothing new. Homer played a superhero written by comic guy.
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I.Q., that is.
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The people who like Family Guy are the same people who thought Transformers 2 and Wolverine were good movies and that Nickleback and Creed are good bands. I'm serious, those people are my next door neighbors. Thus anybody who thinks Family Guy is better than the Simpsons or South Park at their peak is probably a Nickleback fan.
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I still watch Brothers & Sisters, but I think it's heyday is now behind it.
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...make me want the terrorists to win.
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After watching Last night's Simpsons, it seems that once again, Harry was parodied but in a not so flattering way.I could have sworn that there was a reference to comicbook guy being "bribed" to big up (hype) lame ass movies. Matt (Greoning) really luvs ya huh?
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I'm Canadian. Hulu doesn't like me. Therefore, all I have left is to get my illegal download on. So STUF, jackass.
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Is that why you're so angry? Do you need a group hug? Fuckcunt.
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Hated Transformers 2. Hated Wolverine. Hate Creed. Hate Nickelback. You wanna quit it with the blanket statements? There are more than two types of people in the world.
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Had no idea Rogen wrote it aswell as appeared vocally. It wasn't great. I'll always love The Simpsons though.
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Sep 28, 2009 6:09:41 PM CDT
If Matt and Trey read this site (yeah right)
by flurryofchocolateglazedkrispykremedonuts
Hows about ripping Seth McFarland a few more assholes? We want even call you on repeating yourselves. Promise. That fucker and his manatees has it coming big time!
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Does anyone know if NBC is going to show the 2nd season of Merlin?
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Transformers 2 and Wolverine were both bad movies...AND I like Family Guy....so how do you classify me you fucking ass clown? Creed & Nickelback....doesn't matter if I like them or not, what the fuck does that have to do with my taste in TV and movies, are we to believe that YOU set the standards as to who likes what and why? Here's an idea...go fuck yourself.
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A little later than its former slot. Don't know if that had anything to do with it. (So sue me, I watch it from time to time.)
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..and get laid. Pay for it if you have to. Empty your nuts and chill the fuck out, people, seriously. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean those who do are retarded. Okay so "The Cleveland Show" wasn't great but is that any reason to start ripping into people? No. Now, before I give my own opinion of the other three shows let me say that I'm almost 35, married, hated "Transformers" & "Wolverine", I've never heard "Creed" and I absolutely LOATHE "Nickelback" (but at least I can spell it). So... "The Simpsons" was okay, had a couple of funny moments, "American Dad" was pretty good but "Family Guy" was in my opinion one of the best episodes in ages, and bugger all like the "Time & Punishment" episode of "The Simpsons".
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When I was a kid, my family was selected to fill out a Nielsen diary for a week. One Saturday night, I pre-filled the diary out with what I thought we'd be watching, and I filled in 9pm with The Golden Girls (NBC). What we actually watched was A Man Called Hawk (ABC), which was cancelled in less than a season. I always felt I should find Avery Brooks and apologize.
Wow...that was cathartic. Like a call to 888-OOPS-JEW. -
..Creed and Nickleback sucks?!?
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Think about it. What if it's all just a conspiracy to keep Americans stupid. You give the worst shows the best ratings convincing the network to keep those and the worst ratings to the smart shows so the networks will get rid of them. So people have to watch crap. And then everyone stays stupid and keeps buying barbecue equipment.
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Meanwhile, half the rest of the world teeters on the brink of disaster.
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Sep 28, 2009 7:58:05 PM CDT
nickelback is fucking garbage along with transformers 2
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
family guy was a once classic show. so suck my fucking cock
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Pure and utter shit top to bottom. I would rather listen to "Achy Breaky Heart" 1000 times straight through than three chords of whatever shit Shitelback is blaring on the radio. PURE FUCKING SHIT! Somebody took out Lennon (who didn't deserve it), but Chad "Dogfuck" Kroger lives.... Pure proof that there is a God in heavan and he's a fucking prick!
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While I agree with whoever said your ratings stories could help spur people to get the word out on their favorite, albeit weaker shows. However, the ratings stories really are pointless filler on this site (or in general, for that matter). Here's why: Last night's television viewing options also included Mad Men, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Dexter, and Californication, each of which is 10 times better than any of the shows that were on the ratings list. When ratings don't count the better-written, better-acted shows that are now consistantly on the air, the ratings really count. Desperate Housewives has been on a steep decline (although Dana Delaney is still cute as a button), Simpsons, while historically excellent, has not been even decent in years (kind of like Saturday Night Live). And the Seth Macfarlane trilogy of shows is humor written for the LCD (Lowest Common Denominator) demographic that includes drunken fratboys and retarded teens (basically all of them). It is absolutely awful humor that stems from the basest, most crass, and easiest humor to write, while never really having much of a plot beyond continuous pop culture references. Whereas Curb Your Enthusiasm found humor in trying to open the modern theft-resistant packaging, and had me in tears with the running car-BJ gags, or as Ron White calls them, mouth-hugs. But the point is Herc, when the best shows on television are not included in the ratings, then the ratings are horribly flawed and posting stories about them is a waste of both time and space.
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gut wrenching sometimes, but it's nice to know where we are and where to not invest
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Is so we can all laugh at the ongoing train wreck that is the "Jay Leno Show." Has Las Vegas given odds on when his rating drops below 1.0?
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We were one. Not in the national ratings, but in the local ratings for New Orleans. They dropped us after Hurricane Katrina when they had to recalibrate their deomgraphics and randomly select new families. One interesting note: they have no way to meter TiVo. The problem is that TiVo records things the user may not be interested in seeing ("recommendations") and that may not reflect their families' actual viewing habits. I know my TiVo's recommendations (I waited until we were no longer a Nielsen family to get one) don't reflect my tastes. Hulu must be driving Nielsen crazy.
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Love Curb, it really is Seinfield for adults.
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with a one week old cartoon. Keep it up AICN!!!
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I saw them all at a Comic Con panel 3 years ago while I was sandbagging to watch the one after it. The whole fanbase are retards.
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Given the quality of shows on cable tv, given how people will be accessing cable more and more I could conceivable see a time, when all Emmy nominated drama/comedy shows are on cable tv
For best Drama this year House and Lost were the only two from Network TV, IMHO House should definetely be out and The Shield in. As much as I Love Lost, In Treatment had better acting and direction and should have been in instead of Lost. So there Drama already covered.
For Comedy, 30 Rock and the Office (at times) are the only ones that are really competing. Though I think Californication should be in there, Curb will be next year and never going to happen but should be there is Venture Bros.
As I said I love Lost, but for me the only network tv show of recent times that has really competed with cable in terms of acting, direction etc is The West Wing. Nothing since. -
this will include acting, writing and directing emmys as well.
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Total fuckhead retards that think It's a Trap was supposed to be funny.
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Great job, doubting talkbacker.
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but to trash on "rude, crass" humor and then go on to talk about how funny the car bj gags were is a bit hypocritical.
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is classic TV (the dialogue is actually improvised?). The ROBOT CHICKEN parody of STAR WARS was lame (Geo Lucas participated, hence the ass-kissing; timid burlesque in lieu of satire). Loved THE SIMPSONS (wickedly skewering Clinton when he was in office) but it eroded into a cash cow. Prefer AMERICAN DAD over FAMILY GUY but, exempting CURB, TV is akin to watching bowling.
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according to the Nielsen charts, 30 ROCK tanks every week; hula competitions draw a more expansive audience. Fuck the Emmys. There's still hope...right, FUTURAMA?
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Yeah,I predict that Clevland will move back to Qualhog soon.Man did that pilot episode suck donkey dick.
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I mean the fucking guy aspirates from his own rectum. His breath and everything he says is polluted with shit from that walnut he calls a brain. What a retard!
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...oilsands and Nickelback.
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anyone who actually has a HO doesn't post it for the world to see because they're too freaking H
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Had it's moments, but it made me miss The Boondocks. Is that show ever coming back, for a season 3, or is it cancelled?
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Its like you are all just hearing about it for the first time. I thought that show had ended a year or two ago. That show peaked a while back. I caught the first episode I've seen since season 5 the other night and it was ok, it had become too much trying to be itself. Its funny still but its not as good.
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Was damn funny. I thought after last season and Seth's big pay day that it wouldn't be the same. Last week while yes dumb as shit and a plot entire set up to do cut away jokes was just so funny.
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Joke from the Robot Chicken Star Wars about Admiral Ackbar cereal (IIRC) that I love seeing every time.
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...had to go to the Disney parody.i guess it's true, Uncle Walt was an anti semite.
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..Gene hackman is Gay.
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Somewhat as-close-as-we're-gonna-get Sinefeld reunion this season. That'll draw in a lot of lookie-loos.
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Just curious.
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Is Funny.
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And that you are really Kathy Griffin or gay.
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"Road to the Multiverse" was one of the best Family Guy episodes in ages - Disney-guy, Hot Meg, the Flintstones segment, Brian being liked by the human chick on a leash, and a lot of other moments were spot on. The Simpsons was good, not great, but the past few seasons have been something of a return to form. The Cleveland Show, on the other hand, had about two laughs, period.
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Go fuck yourself ok? I am a 42 year old father of three with a job as a PC/Network Tech, but I am a retard? You're an asshole for making such an idiotic blanket statement like that. Not that I feel like I need to defend myself to a fucktard like yourself, but just to let you know that your statement is not just idiotic and stupid, but wrong.
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