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Sorbo in "Phoenix Rising" - err "Andromeda" - but, but they're the same thing !'!'!'!' ((break out the Tylenol))
Glen here...
Many readers have written in telling me actor Kevin Sorbo (Hercules: The Legendary
Journeys) has announced (in a very recent interview) that he will play the captain in the new
series Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda.
This is great news for me, as last week I posted Sorbo was interested in starring in one of
three Gene Roddenberry posthumous series currently in development - whose titles were
Phoenix Rising, Andromeda, Starship.
Specifically, I indicated Sorbo was aiming towards either Phoenix Rising or
Andromeda (CLICK HERE to read the previous article & to find out more about these series).
What many fans may not realize is that the Andromeda show with which Sorbo is
now involved is actually Phoenix Rising, a series mentioned in the article linked above
& being developed by Deep Space Nine's Robert Hewitt Wolfe. That's right: The
Powers That Be have taken the name of one Roddenberry series-in-development and slapped it
onto Phoenix Rising - a completely unrelated Roddenberry series-in-development. So,
Phoenix Rising is now called Andromeda - and The Series Formerly Known
as Andromeda now has no title at all (for the moment).
As far as I know, Starship is still called Starship, although now that the title
Phoenix Rising is available, they could rename Starship and call it Phoenix
Rising, change The Series Formerly Known as Andromeda's title to
Starship, and it all works out just fine!?!?!?!?
((sigh))
Anyways, to some extent this smacks of arbitrary decision making, and reflects negatively on
all three Roddenberry series in development: as it suggests a certain "interchangeability"
between them. That doesn't look good to the fans. None the less, matters such as title changes
do not necessarily indicate the potential of a series as a whole - so I supposed we'd better keep
an open mind.
But still, it's weird. Feel free to voice your opinions about the title swap in the
TALKBACKS below.
Oh, in last week's
article I mentioned either Starship or Phoenix Rising (now
Andromeda) would feature a character named Dylan Hunt - named after a Roddenberry
character from two series pilots in the early 1970's. Sorbo says he will play a captain named
Dylan Hunt...
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...and have literally nothing to say
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What is the point of making a Roddenberry series if you are not going to be as faithful to his concept as possible and that does include the title. Either way, it's still going to be fucked up, just like EFC. It's not Roddenberry and it never will be, so let the man rest in peace with his ideas.
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And now we'll think it's related to that Micheal Crichton movie from the seventies! But it's really a Roddenberry butchering...WHY??!! Pheonix Rising had a coooool sound to it. Andromeda is...well it sucks! Stupid. Just stupid. I know, let's call it the Thirteen Andromeda and be done with it!
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The sad truth is that Trek is dying fast. Unless they pick up the ball with this series and start development quickly, "Voyager" will be canceled in two seasons and we will be seeing reruns for about fifteen years. Something needs to be done.
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-DON'T LET BEHR WRITE FOR THE SERIES! Maybe the concept of "waking up in the future and trying to restore the past" might be neat and I'm sure Behr could maybe make a halfway decent arc, but specfic episodes shouldn't be given to him or lackeys. Did you see the crapfest DS9 turned into in its last season? Though, this show would have worked alot better as a ST spin-off. . .
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Ok, leeme see... Kevin Sorbo will be playing in a series about a re-building "federation" which USED to be called "Phoenix Rising" but is now called "Andromeda". Another UNRELATED series, which we know NOTHING about but which WAS called "andromeda" currently has no name. And Mainframe is working on a series called "Starship" which COULD, in theory, now call itself "Phoenix Rising"... Wait, lemme try that again... INT. SPACEBALL 1 - DAY, DARK HELMET, COLONEL SANDERS stand behind a sitting TECHNICIAN, and watch a video screen of themselves. DARK HELMET - "What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?" COLONEL SANDURZ - "Now, you are looking at now sir. Everything that happens now is happening now." DARK HELMET - "What happened to then?" COLONEL SANDURZ - "We passed it."
DARK HELMET - "When?"
COLONEL SANDURZ - "Just now -
I have a theory as to why we are seeing all these "new" shoes go into development.
I think that they were all filed away in a directory called "410K" -
Perhaps a flowchart of some kind would make this more understandable....gimme a graph, a diagram...something!!!
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Well I made it sound like I care if it's faithful to Roddenberry. I don't, I just want a good show. And the name Andromeda is far lamer than Pheonix Rising. On another issue, I want to say Ira Steven Behr didn't ruin Deep Space Nine, he made it great. That last season wasn't a crapfest, it was inspired, and I wish that Voyager was that compelling. I can only hope this Andromeda series will be so good because space drama and adventure shows are not doing too great. The only one that's almost good is Farscape(Crusade being apparently forgotten even by the Sci-Fi Channel, the fools) and Farscape is still hit or miss. I guess CGI cartoons are the only things left.
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Why not just make it "Star Trek: Andromeda" with Kevin Sorbo as the Captain Dylan Hunt? Hope Rick Berman dump his baby, Starfleet Academy for something like this new Andromeda show. I would like to see a far future show in which Federation no longer exist and a lone Federation STARSHIP named Andromeda (Instead of Enterprise) prowl the screwed-up Milky Way Galaxy. I like Robert Hewitt Wolfe's concept of a Roddenberry story of "Phoenix Rising".
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ENSIGN PEPE:"Captain Hercules Sir, your uniform is too tight." CAPTAIN HERCULES:"Yes, I know. I'm hoping to seduce the alien women with my rock-hard abs." ENSIGN PEPE:"Good plan, sir!" CAPTAIN HERCULES:"Hmmmmm, my man-breasts are looking surprsingly pale. . .Ready the tan-o-lator!" CHIEF ENGEINER SNOTTY: "Y'ken nah dew it keptin! Your skin cannot take the powah!" **At this point Captain Hercules, in a surprising display of his superhuman strength born of his father Zeus, tears a chair out of the floor and throws it halfway across the bridge.** CAPTAIN HERCULES: Well, that was fun. ((NARRATOR: WILL CAPTAIN HERCULES GET A SUNBURN AND NOT SCORE WITH ALIEN CHICKS? TUNE IN NEXT WEEK. . .ah, crap, we just got cancelled for re-runs of "Love Boat: The Next Wave")) BTW, who wants to be that Kevin Sorbo has a specifically tailored uniform that requires him to show off his rock-hard chest?
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Kevin Srobo is smart casting, ala Garry Cole, so they've got that going for them. But how can they do this? It sounds just like Voyager, in that it mirrors the reason I can't stand all those man-on-the-run format shows. What I mean is, the show probably can't go anywhere. The first show worked, to a certain extent, because it was traditionally open-ended. It was just the adventure of the week, etc. This, and Voyager, can't work because in order for anything to happen, the show has to end - eg: they have to accomplish their goals. So there'll be that sense of dissatisfaction dwelling through every ep, the show's premise is undermined from the start. This is UNLESS they want to go for an arc, and the feel of the show sends a message to the audience from the start that says (ala Babylon 5, and to a lesser extent DS9) hang on, stick with us, this is 'going somewhere'. Both open-ended and arc styles work, but you can't have a show which says 'this is going somewhere', then doesn't. Which is what Voyager was (is). They can't get home until the last episode, because they're deliberately not doing an arc. That's it. The promise of momentum inherent in the show's very name is consistently and deliberately absent. So... here's my thing... it's a good concept, and it needs an arc. It needs good people to sit down and work out how, exactly, the Federation will be recreated. If at all. It might be great, if it's a kind of 'Survivors' meets Trek. Come to think of it, and for the record, can someone set this straight? Who IS working on the show? Good people, or Voyager people?
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FOR GOD'S SAKE SOMEONE STOP THEM DOING STARFLEET ACADEMY! DONNA YU NO? DONNA YU WACHA TIVEE??? THERE'S NO WAY THAT IDEA WILL WORK, I DON'T CARE WHO'S ON IT, IT WILL SUCK!
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In the mid-1970s, Roddenberry and his wife sold lots of strange and wonderful things through a company called, at various times, either Star Trek Enterprises or Lincoln Enterprises. Among those interesting items were anything that could be sold from any series concept Roddenberry created. You could buy several story outlines for proposed Genesis II episodes that were never filmed (one, "Robot's Return," provided part otf the inspiration for ST:TMP.) You could buy the script for The Questor Tapes, the script for Spectre, which hadn't yet been aired, and the one for The Secret Defense of 117, a 1950s TV SF film. You could buy a poster of the concept art for Starship (which was supposed to be a show about a starship run by an artifical intelligence, and the crew aboard it, according to the 1976 catalogue). You could get stuff about GR's underwater SF series, Magna One. His Tarzan script. And so on.
But nothing called Phoenix Rising, nothing called Battleground Earth (or whatever E:FC's original title was), nothing called Andromeda.
Maybe some of these were created by GR after 1976, though by then he was working on the first movie and the never-published God Thing Star Trek novel. And between TMP and TNG he was supposedly writing a novel about 20th century Earth as seen by an alien named Gaan, but that was never published either.
The fact that a show has GR's name on it doesn't mean it has anything to do with Trek, and it doesn't mean it's going to be any good, and it doesn't mean that it has any resemblance to anything GR created. (I am not suggesting that these shows would necessarily be better if they were faithful to GR's work. A lot of his stuff was crap.) In fact, all it means is that the producers think fans will be more interested if they manage to attach GR's name to the project. -
What this is the all-too common taking a dead's creator remnants and turning them into an ongoing
source of income.
You have succeeeding generations of Tolkeins finding unpublished JRR bits and pieces, or putting out yet another 'authorized guide to Middle Earth'. Scientology, who seem to finally be admitting LRon ,that evil bastard, is finally dead, keep on putting his name as a co-author on new projects. Yoko Ono takes cocktail napkins John Lennon drew on, and turns them into ties.
People try to pitch it like they are honoring these giants (or evil bastards) of literature and arts, but they're just eating the dead. Occasionally they might hit on something good, (TNG after the Great Bird passed, Peter David's
New Fronteirs, the two volume Paramount disavowal of anything having to do with Kirk's resurection), and actually honor the original creator. For the most part, it's just a shame to all involved. -
Why is anybody even bothering with any of GR's old ideas? And Majel's the one repping them now? That supposed to inspire us? I know from a friend of mine who worked on those aweful Techno comics, that Majel thinks she has something to offer idea-wise. That means that any of these shows are going to have her input. That means that anyone good is going to keep well away. Does any one not get it? If there was a good idea among them it would have been done already. Or is it that the more recent seasons of Voyager and DS9 brought the levels of acceptance down far enough for credibility?
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Just got word that Sinclair Broadcasting ( one of the largest broadcasting companies, they own a ton of TV stations) Just signed on to buy the new Gene Roddenberry series called "Andromeda" with Kevin Sorbo. The series will be in syndication starting in the fall of 2000.
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