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Curious About This MAD MEN Show That Keeps Carting Away Emmys?? AMC Has Scheduled A Catch-Up Marathon For You!!
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The weekly “Mad Men” post is up a few hours early because AMC is launching Sunday a catch-up marathon covering the first half of season three, starting at 10 a.m.
The idea, I gather, is to help all the people confused by the enormous number of trophies “Mad Men” keeps picking up at these Emmy ceremonies. (This is the second year in a row “Mad Men” has nabbed the top Emmy for “outstanding drama.”)
It really is the best show on TV you know!
SPOILERS MAY LURK BELOW
I grew very sad when it looked as if Lane Pryce and his insect-hating, African-hating wife would be shipped down to India, then grew very happy when bright green petrol-fueled deliverance engineered a reversal of fortune. (Do you imagine producers sought a product-placement with John Deere?)
I was surprised also at the return of Conrad Hilton. I’d assumed they snuck Connie into Roger’s party episode as a weird reminder to modern audiences that Paris got her Manhattan shoe money from an old New Mexico man. I did not expect him to remain in Don Draper’s life.
What now will become of Joan? She’s much too important a character to drift too far from Sterling Cooper. If she begged, might Harry Crane find a spot for her in his burgeoning TV TV division? Or will she find herself reduced to fetching Peggy’s coffee?
Titles and plotlines for Sunday’s new episode and beyond:
3.7 "Seven Twenty Three"
Betty tries her hand at politics; Don thinks about the future; and Peggy receives a luxurious gift.
3.8 "Summer Vacation"
Don and Betty go on a business trip. Pete helps a neighbor.
3.9 "Wee Small Hours"
Don and Sal have trouble giving the clients what they want. Betty hosts a fundraiser.
3.10 "The Color Blue"
The firm celebrates a milestone. Peggy and Paul compete on an account.
3.11 "The Gypsy and the Hobo"
A former client returns; Betty goes on a trip with the kids; and Joan and Greg plan for their future.
3.12 "The Greatest Generation"
3.13 "The Silo"
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Betty tries her hand at politics; Don thinks about the future; and Peggy receives a luxurious gift.
Don and Betty go on a business trip. Pete helps a neighbor.
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So Mr. Pryce can stay in town. Agree on that one. I also think Joan will be given a job somewhere in Sterling Cooper, and the tv department gig sounds just about right for her, however, with all the money issues coming up lately, I'm not sure I see the British brass going for that one. We'll see. Either way, I hope even more people catch on from this marathon. It really is the best thing going.
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She has too much pride for that.
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that sooner or later, Don is going to at least take a business trip to London. I can't really imagine this show having that option and not taking it. You can't have chart a saga through the 60's without having Don shmooze in London for an episode or two. Just like California, but more swanky.
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One of the best characters on the show. I hope she stays somehow.
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with both feet, leaves with only one foot. Freaking great episode. One of the best of the series. I can't recall anything that was so simultaneously shocking yet hilarious than that foot-mower scene. Thank God this show is not on network television.As for Joan. I hope she doesn't leave the show. I think that for a while she'll be slumming it somewhere and will eventually return to Sterling Cooper. It would be nice to see her get a more prestigious position too, ala Peggy's rise from secretary to copy writer. The TV department gig that Crow3711 mentioned could be interesting. If that happens, I can picture a character arc where Joan starts making more money than her doctor husband, causing more conflict at home.Is it just me, or did Joan and Don have something going back in the day? We know there was something with Joan and Kinsey. I seem to recall that there was a bit of dialogue in season one or two that sort of suggested Joan and Don had an affair or relationship in the past.
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...over the past few seasons. It's lack of consideration is yet another indicator that the Emmys are becoming more of a sell-out fraud.
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I'm glad he's staying too. The lawnmower scene was incredible. Joan was awesome. Also nice to see the scene with her and Don. They don't interact that much. I hope she comes back to the firm.
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Talk about a niche show... not hating, to each their own. But I've yet to meet anyone (in person) in their 20s who like this.
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Though none of my friends do. I tried to put my girlfriend onto it, but shes into The Office and Dancing with the Stars. I.ve just started following Mad Men this season, as I dont usually follow shows until they seem to have staying power. When this season wraps up Im going to start from season one and fill in all the history Ive missed.
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I'm 23. You just haven't met any intelligent people in their 20's lately. We tend to be few and far between these days.
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I was given season 1 on Blu-ray as a gift and it's one of the best experiences since the hey day of HBO's original series. They really fucked up by not saying yes to Weiner. AMC must be creaming their jeans. The first season is so beautifully shot and executed, I cannot imagine a better start to a series.
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just had the complete 2nd season available for free on video on demand. Watched through it all, picked up the first season on dvd, and now don't have to worry about catching live broadcasts because the v.o.d service makes each new episode available for free a few nights after a new episode airs. There really ought to be more free shows available that way.
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Sep 26, 2009 6:20:37 PM CDT
Wonder which episode will be the JFK assassinaion
by takingscorpioscalls
Great Generation?
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@ LV_426 I believe it was mentioned in the first couple of episodes that when Joan first started she was Don's secretary so I'm sure something happened between the two of them in the past. Perhaps thats how she'll get back in S/C
@ blhotz: I'm 27 and love this show. Watching this show has made me realize the amount of garbage (not only reality shows but scripted ones too) is on television today. Talk about saturation. If other shows put in half as much effort as the cast and crew of Mad Men there might be a reason to tune in. I try to get everyone I meet to watch this show. Everyone who watches it is amazed as well.
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I'd lay odds she ends up working for Duck.
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But in all fairness, I started watching in my twenties.
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...and it's terribly dumb: the jokes are less than clever the way the 50s are portrayed is artificially nostalgic. But Christina Hendricks amazing bust is worth a look.
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The show takes place in the 60's. Always has. It's also not a comedy. Give it another chance.
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Just being unnecessarily political since Herc seems to love that. :) Mad Men is nice, too.
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HAHAHA, FAIL!
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Fact.
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And it is AWESOME. And if Joan leaves I will be seroiusly upset. I think she will apply for a job in the TV department. Peggy and the other copywriters haven't had much of a storyline either recently...damn I love this show though. A smart period show, it's captivating...just awesome.
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Was that supposed to be funny NotVeryFunny?
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and that's Peggy. The niche of "woman rising up in a man's world" is already filled; for Joan to get a job as anything but a secretary would be like if the show got another closeted gay guy.
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This show is just sooo damned smart you neeed to watch each episode at least twice to see just how smart it is. Early in last week's episode, the London boss laughs about how he "loves a tragedy with a happy ending" and damned if, by the end of the hour, that's just what the episode turned out to be. Everything at SC goes back to the status quo, plus the office gets the day off that they were all expecting. One of the best, and probably the most darkly comic, episodes of the series. I love how this show takes the time to make you sympathetic towards every character, Greg and Lane in this episode alone.
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Sep 27, 2009 1:07:55 AM CDT
my girlfriend and I are both 21, we love the show.
by doodlydingdongticktock
It works incredibly well. Threading so many interesting storylines through the office and through homelife. I'm really interested at how they're going to handle Kennedy's assassination, if that will tie in with anything at all. It seems like it could happen the second to last episode of the season. "The Greatest Generation" seems indicative of something particularly traumatic. And as they've just passed July 4th, 6 or 7 episodes could probably cover the four month interim.
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Sometimes darkly comedic, sometimes tragic, but ALWAYS so damn engrossing. And sadly, I agree that there's a good chance that Joan is the tragedy of wasted potential. Which just breaks my heart. She's awesome.
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and I adore every moment this show is on. How those douche magoos can keep on ignoring Jon Hamm for fucking BRIAN CRANSTON is beyond me. When people look back on this decade. They will look back on Don Draper. He's almost the quintessential character of this decade.
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I'll tell you why "Mad Men" is dull. And yes, it is dull, regardless of all the little buttons it pushes for liberal yuppies and "artistic" types. "Mad Men" has the sets and the costumes do quite a bit of the talking. But sets and costumes can't talk, and you can't care about them or emotionally invest in them. (Or, if like many "Mad Men" fans you can, there's something wrong with you.) Scorcese has made many period pieces with sets and costumes but it was always about the people.
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This show is about the people. If you miss that, then you are not paying close enough attention. Seriously, it's the best show on TV, and that's a fact jack.
Nice of you to be a conservative douche. Like the world needs more of your ilk.
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are not very smart. this show is not about sets and costumes, if it were it would've been like the short lived "That 80's Show" following That 70's Show's success. People are caught up in the plots. If you actually watched the show you would know this. But hell, someone cut you off on the freeway or didn't hold the elevator open for you so you figure trolling makes you feel better about yourselves. Too bad you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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Do not knock Brian Cranston. You clearly do not understand how deep Breaking Bad is. He plays a character who keeps digging himself deeper into a shitfest, nothing is more telling of our generation than that (Don Draper may also dig himself into shitfests, but not with the same heart that Walter White does). Cranston's job as Walter White is a symbol of the war on drugs/terror and the horrible economy/healthcare of NOW. Don, as remarkable as he is, cannot be called the "quintessential character of this decade" when he's not even the most interesting character on his own damn show. That honor goes to all the woman in Mad Men, including Betty, Peggy and maybe even Joan, who I don't see headed back to Sterling Cooper anytime soon (she is too prideful and her storyline offers way more interesting options if she's stays away for a bit, at least for the rest of the season). We cannot predict what will happen with Betty or Peggy or Joan on a weekly basis but Don for now is obvious: he's a very creative director who sleeps around (the stuff with the school teacher is only going to confirm that).
Brian Cranston, as Walter White, is dealing with so much more that is relevant to the modern American problem. To completely dismiss his amazingly complex portrayal in lieu of a great (but periodic) piece of acting is insane and ridiculous.
Truth is, you cannot really compare these performances since they will always tip in Breaking Bad's favor simply because what's at stake for Walter will always be costlier than whatever is at stake for Don. Don might loose his wife's trust and the respect of his colleagues but Walter White faces jail/death on a regular basis. They are two different kind of intensities and while Don's is more subtle, Walter's is so much more heartbraking. All we have to love Don for is his mysterious past, and that doesn't do it for me anymore. The past doesn't explain the present and Walter White knows that better than anyone. In summary: Do not knock Brian Cranston.
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is that a television department run by transvestites. Sterling-Cooper really is progressive. I guess Sal has nothing to worry about.
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a group of about 5 or 6 of my friends who are all around 24. Do not discount the ability of the younger generation to still have the taste and class to recognize quality. And, as much as the sets, props, and costumes are beautifully rendered in this show, they do not outshine the wonderfully subtle acting going on. I find Elisabeth Moss FASCINATING in every moment she has on screen. Seriously, the Emmy should have been hers. And Christina Hendricks is a marvel. But I do think that Jon Hamm deserved the Emmy as well for playing a difficult part and making it look effortless when there is SO much layered into it. It's a part that not everyone could play, and he does it so well.
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But now he's got TWO Emmys for that role. Hamm deserves to win at least one while Mad Men is on. I like it when they spread the wealth around. John Larroquette won so many Emmys for Night Court he eventually pulled himself from consideration because it was getting to be ridiculous. Give the other people a shot at it.Did you see Hamm's face when Cranston won again this year? He's happy for him but he realizes Cranston has the flashier role, and the subtleties of what Hamm and Hugh Laurie and other actors are doing is drowned out by the tension and histrionics of Breaking Bad. The same way Gandolfini's scenery eating bear bulldozed every other actor while The Sopranos was on, except for James Spader and Martin Sheen who managed to squeak in there a year or two.Hamm is as good as anybody who's ever been on television. He deserves to win at least once.
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...I don't watch Breaking Bad, so this isn't really a knock agains Brian Cranston's performance as much as it is a defense of Jon Hamm's. But: I think that's why I prefer a show like Mad Men to Breaking Bad, because Mad Men doesn't rely on sensational situations to create very dramatic tension. There is built-in drama in murdering people and dealing and doing drugs. Don Draper is more the quintessential character because I can relate to him more: an average guy with baggage and flaws whose job and family provide him with enough conflict without needing to delve into the extreme situations of a show like "The Shield" or "Breaking Bad". It is drama of the mundane, which is hard to pull off, and Weiner and Hamm are doing it better than anyone.
And let me reiterate: I'm not knocking "The Shield" or "Breaking Bad". I've seen handfuls of episodes and and think they're effective at what they do. But there is nothing quintessential about Vic Mackey or Walter White. Yes, their actions and circumstances are merely symbolic of society's concerns. Mad Men reflects reality as it actualy is/was. imho. -
I enjoy Breaking Bad and wouldn't argue with Cranston winning the emmy, however it is the flashier role. Mad Men is unique. One of the few shows on mainstream TV that doesn't involve Doctors, Lawyers or Cops, rely on drug deals, canned laughter or explosions and fight sequences. And for all of Don's sleeping around- there's not even any explicit sex. It's the talent- writing, acting, directing et al- pure and simple- that keeps this show on top. As much as everyone loves the fashion and era the show is set in, the writers could jump forward to the horridly tacky 70's and everyone would still be on board. All the naysayers should really check out the marathon today and give it another chance.
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Then this show will appeal to you , if you like nostalgia and know something about the early sixties or grew up in that era then this show will appeal to you. If you like great writng and excellant acting then this show will appeal to you. If none of the above fit you then this show probably will be a huge turn off.
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I adore Mad Men but I'm sometimes confused by the lack of love for Breaking Bad.
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you are correct on most counts here but the shows do have a couple of things in common.
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Sep 27, 2009 3:44:53 PM CDT
Oh yeah ..and anybody who doesn't think Christina Hendricks is t
by mr dark
Is blind or out of their mind.. I was also going to say gay but it even appears that "doogie" would try to take a whack at her..
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from people who have better memories than me. When Don/Dick's long lost brother showed up in season 1. Did anyone else at Sterling - Cooper actually interact with the brother or was it more like "The Sixth Sense" where you are making an assumption that other people see the character but, they really don't.
What if Don really is Don Draper and never was Dick Whitman? What if he is actually a little crazy a "Mad Man"? What if his whole "Dick Whitman" back story is maybe a delusion? A story Don tells himself to justify his bad behavior.
Don is sort of a metaphor for America itself. America likes to tell itself stories about its hardscrabble past that are sometimes not quite true and use those stories to justify some bad behavior.
Don and America can also be very kind generous just as Don has shown kindness to Peggy and Sal.
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Inaction Man- Interesting theory, but in Season 2 we do meet a character in California who is the real Don Draper's widow. Is it your theory that all of that was in Draper's mind as well?
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In season 1 we met Dick Whitman's brother. So, are you suggesting, that Don's fractured mind produced that meeting? Becasue If I remember correctly they did show Don's brother interacting with people. To me suggest a corporeal existence and not some artifact cooked up in Drapers mind.
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[SPOILER WARNING] Also, the brother wrapped up all his belongings including a letter and some photos and sent to Don before he committed suicide. the package was found by Pete, who tried to use it to blackmail Don into giving him a promotion. I'd say that makes Don's history pretty tangible.
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I remember in the first season when Roger's wife showed up, Joan and Don were walking together laughing about something, then Roger's wife said they looked like a handsome couple, and Joan replied something like "Oh, I've never went for handsome". Also, I'm pretty sure Joan had a conversation with Peggy in the first season about Peggy discovering Don's affair and Joan replying that she always thought the reason why Don never came on to her was because he "got it" someplace else. I think, maybe there's more of a respect between Joan and Don then attraction. When Joan kissed him on the cheek it was almost like a motherly or even schoolgirl gesture. Not one of past history. Maybe he was the only one there who gave her proper respect. Almost every other character who comes in contact with Joan is portrayed as using her or belittling her because of her looks. Even her female roommate from season one revealed she was only her friend because she was a closet lesbian. Everyone has always thought of Joan because of her looks. Maybe Don was the only one who didn't.
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Nothing expressed or ever spoken, of course, and I think that is even more indicative of why he respects her. They are silent equals. They both understand that the other conducts themselves with a massive amount of both respect and discretion. I think Don sees Joan as almost a female version of himself. He knows she has secrest, that she is a real person, and I think they both see the world is the same measure, even if they never acknowledge that between one another. A silent respect. I think in some ways they both see through each other, and it draws them to one another. But no, I don't think they ever, ever even came close to having an affair. That's where the whole discretion thing comes in. Neither one needs that sort of approval from the other. One of most interesting relationships on the show, IMO. But not sexual in any way.
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anyone watching the show as we speak? this episode is fantastic
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Incredible. That was easily the best episode of television I've seen in awhile. What a fantastic way to follow up last week's John Deere moment.
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I think Peggy might be pregnant again. Because at the end of the episode after her conversation with Don she put her right hand over her belly which just seems really awkward to do after a conversation. Granted she wouldn't know then, I just wonder if it is the producers/writers foreshadowing.
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...and Don gets totally cornered on his contract. I always wondered if Cooper would use his Whitman/Draper card and it looks like he decided to play it. The line he said as Don finally signed the document was brutal.So many things going on in this ep, too. I'm rather impressed with this one.
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Classic.
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...the fact that Betty still keeps trying to open Don's desk drawer whenever she's in his office. You just know that, sooner or later, she's going to find it unlocked. (Don's past is something that Betty will discover and it will probably be dealt with towards the end of the show's run, I imagine.)
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That was really incredible, once again. Just chock full of unbelievable moments. And MrNiceGaius, I also noticed Betty trying to open the drawer. A wonderful touch, especially after that particular phone call. So much is going on, anyone who says this isn't the best show on television is just an idiot, in my apparently not so humble opinion. It's just...well...I watch a lot of television to be quite honest, and that was just about the best anything has been in a long long time. Except...no Joan. That's not a pleasant surprise at all. I also hate the idea that Don no longer has any desire to be Roger's friend. I need more Roger Sterling.
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...but Cooper brings the hurt. After that contract scene, it's very clear now that Cooper's "Kill or be killed" comment from the prior episode was not just a throw away one-liner.
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I know last week the whole school in June thing came up. In ny there is school into June. But what about tonight? Was the teacher doing sone sort of summer program? Because there is no way school would be going on into July. And there was never mention of Sally needing summer school. I'm assuming it's July based off the date don signs his contract.
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30 Rock, I can understand. IMHO there's no comedy that touches it, even comes close.
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I'm a dude, and although I may not be juicing over Hamm, I get a little moist about series in general. Why? Because it's fucking great.
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right from the awful interior designer through to the end the only things i didnt get was the whole tryst between duck and peggy, and the ruse by the teen couple over nam i thought in 63 people were gung ho over stopping communism and damn don is dumb...2 pheno with booze? as for the teach...this was a special event, total eclipse, so im sure something was planned out prior to the end of school and great camera work on making january jones look likea veronica lake on the fainting couch...i got wood when her hands starting running down her bod
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and Phenobarbital, nobody rides for free right Don?
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I can't be the only one thinking of the Godfather during that scene. The old man has some back bone and can play serious hard ball.
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Is she nuts or just fucking with Don? I'm not sure.
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I enjoy Mad Men, think it has some of the best writing and acting on the small screen but I don't find it as compelling as other shows.
For this third season in particular it has tended to be more a snapshot of these people's lives for a period of time rather than having a strong underlying narrative for the season (i.e. Dexter, Lost, True Blood).
Prior seasons at least had the mystery about who Don really is.
There are some naratives of course, particularly the acquisition by the Brits, but just don't find it compelling as prior seasons so far(but we are about half way through). The best shows find the balance.
When I look back at Emmys, I still find it a travesty that the Shield wasn't nominated and didn't win for 2009. I look book and think that it was also a travesty that the Wire never got one, where as a show like 24 won it once, and shows like Heroes, Boston Legal, House and Greys Anatomy were at least nominated in the past.
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what narative are you looking for?each season is a part of a larger picture...the picture that weiner is painting about the destruction of the american dream as witnessed by one ad man the secret of don's true identity is a maguffin...a plot point that no longer is neccessary (except to show that cooper is more in charge than he lets others see) weiner provided tons of pop shots in the first season...not so much in the second...and in the third, it appears that he is going for one big blast at seasons end...thinking, as he should, that the viewers are now mature enough, not to need to get off every epi
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not nuts...just aware of her surroundings my dad had shirts like that....omg, my dad had shirts like that
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This show makes life worth living.
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those who are bitching about Cranston's whopping TWO Emmys, or after watching a "handful" of episodes are as bad as those who dismiss Mad Men as a stylized soap. Mad Men has TWO consecutive for Best Drama, why don't they spread the love around?! Breaking Bad S2 was consistently excellent from start to finish.The fact of the matter is that the academy has ample recognition of both shows, and the chips fell the way they did. Nobody can say the outcome will or won't be the same next year, nor can they say that Hamm has been deprived of anything until all is said and done. And though it's highly doubtful, even if he was denied, he wouldn't be the first, nor would he be the last.There are no losers in this race. Either show could easily dominate the proceedings and be deserving. But if I had to guess as to why the voters marked their ballots the way they did, it would be because they recognize the collective strength of MM's ensemble, and the individual performance of BC. MM would still be compelling without Draper, but without White, there would be no BB.
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And I don't mean the "I beat you at Halo" owned. He's always trying to prove he's independent and in charge of himself. This episode's theme was, he is not. Or, he's gone as far down that road as he can.Roger tries to go the gentler route in saying, "Don, you have to commit to the company." The polite route didn't work so Cooper pulled out that secret and basically blackmails Don. His work independence is done. It was also great that this happens so soon after Cooper keeps playing the goofy, clueless guy in front of Sterling and Pryce. Also interesting is Don's final admission that he doesn't like Roger. Did he ever?Those kids who he picked up were the opposite of his exploration of those odd drifter types he met in CA. Instead of inviting him in, they just screw with him, let him into a much seedier little world, then crack him over the head. And Don's little explorations of other people's worlds is done. And Hell, even Betty's shot at Don about the contract was right on the money, after he explains that he has the power.
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that's right, I went there.
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some seleted lines: 1."i love the smell of Liquor on your breath" with Duck being an alcoholic i thought that was brilliant. 2. "nothing is happening...we're just talking" awsome to see somone out-agresiving Don. 3. "who is really signing this contract anyway?" awsome. i love this show
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yes I know its completely rediculous
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Could she be any ridiculously hotter? When she was lustfully laying on couch, idly fondling herself...I almost exploded.
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how this show is quiet and subtle for a stretch and then WHAM! they hit you on the side of the head and the shit hits the fan.
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7-23 1963? Is this just to give us a firm date to keep in mind for future seasons (3 years from now maybe)? Don was very good in this episode. Hopefully he's starting to change. Maybe now he won't be so quick to get high/cheat/drunk. Then again...
I was cringing during that morning scene between Peggy and Duck. Can't wait to see Duck and Pete go at it now. But I did love the change of structure for this show, it was nothing special, but very subtle and extremely well executed (which pretty much describes this show). Is it just me or has this season had a ton of blood in it? I have a feeling each season is only going to get more violent.
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I'll watch reruns of "Bewitched," thank you! Always had a thing for Samantha Stevens as a kid. Might explain why I married a woman who looks like Elizabeth Montgomery! :)
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on a local station near you.
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Duck is going to make him an offer and now Don can't take it. Again, the teacher is not really a hippie, she is a Yippie. Yippies were the leaders of the protest movements of the late 1960's. Betty being an anthropologist is a nice bit of layering for her character. I said Don was from the South. Looks like he's from Kentucky, Tennesee, or West Virginia.------later-----m
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As I said last week my father is from The Hudson River Valley and a 1963 grad. Most were not too concerned about Nam, they say it the way we currently see Venezuela. But there was a draft, and if you were not going to college, no one would hire you for a job that paid more than a dollar an hour because you were going to be drafted in a 18-30 months. My father stuck it out until Christmas 1964, but then gave in and enlisted in the USAF.The marriage exemption did happen. On of the most famous was Cass Elliott marrying another singer so he would not be drafted.------later-----m
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As I said last week my father is from The Hudson River Valley and a 1963 grad. Most were not too concerned about Nam, they saw it the way we currently see Venezuela. But there was a draft. If you were not going to college, no one would hire you for a job that paid more than a dollar an hour because the odds were you were going to be drafted in 18-30 months. My father stuck it out until Christmas 1964, but then gave in and enlisted in the USAF.The marriage exemption did happen. One of the most famous was Cass Elliott marrying another singer so he would not be drafted.------later-----m
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The fact that Don did not mention his own war experience and his noncommittal response about Nam said volumes about how he views war.Those who know his war record are aware he has tremendous physical courage with respect to war, but he certainly sees war much differently than the status quo.
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1) Sunday's episode ended on July 23, 1963, according to the date on Don's contract. Last week's episode took place soon after June 14 (the day that Medgar Evers was murdered). Sunday was episode 7. July is the 7th month. Does each episode this season take place in a consecutive month? If yes, then four weeks from now should feature a very exciting episode.
2) Joan's hubby said that if he wants to be a surgeon he couldn't do it in New York, and they would have to move to the South. Unless he swallows his pride and reinvents himself as a personal physician/handsome gigolo for the wealthy ladies of the upper east side, I'm starting to think Joan's departure will be more-or-less permanent. (Alternately, I think there's a decent probability that he'll commit suicide if/when his medical career goes into the toilet, which would provide an opening to bring Joan back.)
3) The deterioration of the relationship between Don and the firm's partners has me on pins & needles. Considering Don's self-destructive personal demons, Roger's heart troubles, Burt Cooper's not-so-subtle blackmailing of Don, and the machinations of those damned limeys, the rest of this season looks like a big shit sandwich and everybody's going to have to take a bite. But I can't put my finger on Hilton's real intentions. He's got to have something up his sleeve. (Or maybe he's just a client, like any other client, just with a bit more charisma than most? That would almost be more of a plot twist than if he was truly up to no good.)
4) Just took a quick look at the Wikipedia entry for Grey Advertising. Their first big client was Proctor & Gamble, which they landed in 1956. The 1960s were a period of major expansion for them. In the episode, Duck tells Peggy that Grey has crappy offices which is why they meet at a hotel. Today they have 432 offices in 96 countries. My point is, we didn't hear from Duck for a long time this season, but it looks like he will be an increasingly important part of Sterling-Cooper's forthcoming shit sandwich. -
D'you think he might enlist/get drafted and head off to Vietnam?
(Thank goodness for iTunes. Without it, I wouldn't get to see this show up here in the Great White North. I had to watch last season via choppy web video at www.ctv.ca. That sucked.) -
I love Don Draper to death, but judging from Hamm's performances in other venues (admittedly pretty thin gruel: Day The Earth Stood Still, 30 Rock, SNL, Funny or Die), he doesn't seem to actually have much range. "Best Actor" might not be the best way to acknowledge how cool Don Draper is. Best Writing might be more appropriate.
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Oh yeah , Peggy just did...
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The solar eclipse took place on Saturday, July 20, 1963. It was a big deal. If you type "july 20, 1963" into google you get a lot of blog entries from people about how much of a big deal it was for them. Lots of schools and other organizations made special effort to organize viewing parties like the one in the show.
(Incidentally, she said she only got August off, so she did work during July. Professional development?Summer school? Day camp? Servicing the special needs of the school principal?) -
1963 is the year of the Profumo affair, which would be a lovely backdrop for a field trip across the pond. Christine Keeler was arrested for perjury on September 5, the Denning Report was released on September 25, and Prime Minister Macmillan resigned in October. The British parent company could easily be working for the Tories doing damage control, or for Labour to exploit the scandal.
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He stepped down as president of Hilton Hotels in 1966. Could that be a clue as to what he's up to?
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Loved that scene as well, January Jones is awesome, I am really into Asian girls (my wife is Japanese), but she is one that gets my attention everytime.
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I love how to those outside her family she appears like a "Barbie", absolutely perfect. Stunning looks and great fashion sense, seems very nice and really does look and seem like a princess.
Then you see the image of her with her kids, shouting out dinner is ready, smoking way, and showing very little love towards her kids. Don comments to her in the episosde about her self obsession as well.
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