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Big Bow For FLASHFORWARD!! CSI Plummets Nutty 44%!! COMMUNITY & FRINGE Down!! SURVIVOR & VAMPIRE Up!! Thursday Ratings!!
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The networks were all finally at full strength with fresh episodes Thursday night; the 18-49 scores (last week’s scores are in the parentheses):
6.6 (1.8) Grey’s Anatomy
4.1 (---) FlashForward
4.0 (2.0) CSI
3.8 (4.1) The Office
3.7 (3.6) Survivor
3.4 (1.9) The Mentalist
2.8 (3.8) Community
2.7 (3.2) Bones
2.2 (3.1) Fringe
1.8 (2.0) SNL Thursday
1.8 (2.1) Parks and Recreation
1.7 (2.7) The Jay Leno Show
1.7 (1.6) The Vampire Diaries
1.2 (1.2) Supernatural
Figures in grey are for repeats.
* An episode of scripted television (like the “FlashForward” pilot) beating an original episode of “Survivor” at 8 p.m. Thursday is extremely rare. I think the “Ugly Betty” pilot may have marked the last time.
* “Survivor” and “Vampire Diaries” both increased their numbers slightly at 8 p.m. hour despite the arrival of “FastForward.”
* “CSI” was down a crazy 44% from its 2008 premiere. The newer “Grey’s Anatomy” was down only 11%.
* “Community” and “Fringe” both took big second-week dips, down 26% and 23%, respectively.
* “The Jay Leno Show” hit its series low Thursday to tie with the CW’s “Vampire Diaries.” Somebody predicted “Leno” could still make $300 million annually with a 1.5 rating, so I guess we’ll be seeing more of the same in primetime?
Find all of James Hibberd’s analysis of the Thursday-night ratings here.
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Was not bad. Not great though, the characters didn't really grip me.
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FIRST! :)
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Is an interesting show. I truly hope that it is an "one and done." I am not sure I can stick with something that goes on and on.
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Execrable, that is.
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This would make my life easier. Thanks, Fox. 'Preciate it.
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Wrap it up folks--this one may not make it to midseason.
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is getting really good. I'm convinced NBC would do itself, Parks and Leno a huge favor if they stuck it after "The Office."
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for CSI? I could give a rats ass about Greys (and CSI for that matter), but it looks like its really leading the pack.
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His show fucking sucks! Looks like he has to go down with that P.O.S ship!
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And what did Fox expect would happen when they moved Fringe and Bones to Thursday. Duh?
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It will get killed at 9 on Thursdays. Fox needs to move it to Tuesday or Wednesday. Fringe is a great show, and I don't want to see it get cancelled because of a bad time slot.
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That would be like a human attracted to a chimp.
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Can't wait to hear how Rush tries to pin this one on that darn socialist/Marxist/fascist/America-hater/babyeater/Anti-Christ/HolyFUCKHe'sGoingToDestroyEverythingWeLoveAndRapeAllYourKidsTenTimesAtLeast Obama.
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It's too much to put Fringe against CSI and Grey's Anatomy.
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Keep 'em coming!
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I watched the Pilot, and it was interesting, i felt like there were moments when it was really good and others when it was trying way to hard, my biggest problems with the Show were Casting, I only see harold when I see that guy and i thought the interrogation with him and that blonde women was laughable, not to mention that Fiennes guy, him in jeans and as a cop just pulled me right out of the story I only wanna see that guy in the 18th century with puffy shirts and oh so tight pants. I also had problems with the Scope why make the entire world black out or (flashforward)just so the show can focus on at the most 15 people, who you just know are the keys to why everyone blacked out,I feel like the biggest problems is the fact that it seems like ABC's answer to the last season of LOST. and all that aside i thin (flashforward) as a title is ridiculous, when a characters say "when i, flash forwarded" wtf? it ripped me right out of the show...
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I thought last week's episode struggled, but last night was easity the best episode of the show. It was the funniest thing on last night. The guy living in the pit, Tom getting arrested, and the intro of Louis C.K. was brilliant. I hope he becomes a regular.
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Fishburne on CSI.
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Man, I feel like all the fans have gone out on a limb for this show and so far the season hasn't hit the same note for note perfection that it had built up from seasons 3 & 4. Although, the last 10 minutes of last night's episode did return us to SN's natural glory, albeit however brief. I think someone from last week's talkback hit the nail on the head when they said that Sam just doesn't play 'remorseful for starting the apocalypse' very well. I tend to agree.Next week's episode looks good though.
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That shows a winner. Parks and Rec was a little better, mainly due to the hernia plot. Amy Poehler is still very miscast and her role is too much like a female Michael Scott. And they really need to ditch those talking heads when there's no documentary going on.
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LOL wow. Like Rush cares what kind of ratings he gets on TV, with 20 million listeners on radio? Pin it on The Chin.
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And he makes NBC 300 million a year. So said some industry types in an article recently. Variety or some such, I'm sure you guys can find it if you're interested.
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SEASON PREMIERE!! ZOD!! THE \S/ SYMBOL!!!
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...has been deliberately put in the "kill slot" to knock it off by midseason. This is Fox we're talking about, they want nothing on their schedule that distracts from Idol or whatever crap Seth McFarland's got going on.
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Sep 25, 2009 2:49:55 PM CDT
But Supernatural is on the CW, I think if 4 people watch
by lockesbrokenleg
a show on there, it's a hit.
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Everyone staring at each other, chewing scenery, every word SO IMPORTANT...ugh.
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I actually thought they hit that one out of the park. They havent really ratched everything up to what everyone was expecting but I think every episode has been better then the last so far this season. The Castiel/Dean team up was beyond awesome. I particularly like how upset Dean gets every time there is a chance someone could die a virgin. I also think Collins was hilarious this episode. The fish out of water thing was funny and his facial expressions really sold the situations. I am really looking forward to next weeks episode.
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But yeah, some of the acting was off (particularly Harold, who cannot project intimidation onto a squirrel if his life depended on it). But I love the back-up actors- Courtney B. Vance and the FBI chick analyst. I think it has potential, but if every episode is going to show 3 minutes worth of Joe Fiennes' flashforward (like how the VOLTRON cartoon showed 3 minutes of the lions turning into Voltron, or how HE-MAN showed 3 minutes of Adam turning into... He-Man) then I worry for its future.
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Love Survivor. Love The Office. Love Parks and Rec. Love Community. Not to mention my love of College football.
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9:30 slot would be much better. I will admit that I've enjoyed the two episodes this year more than anything last year, but those ratings are dreadful.
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It already shows signs of being a big mysterious cocktease like LOST, which I'm just not interested in.
Joseph Feinnes isn't a great leading man. His acting is passable at best. Asian Star Trek/Harold and Kumar guy is the best actor on the show. I kept thinking how much better it would be if he was the lead. -
You know this to be true.
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Fringes premiere was shitfuckingtastic
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Are basically the entire plot of the season you morons! You sound like the same people who hate Lost cause its too complicated...Don't worry American Idol will be back soon.
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The pilot seemed like a long trailer. I am thankful that it didn't take three or four episodes to set up the main theme. By the time end credits were on I was ready for the season to kick off.
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Why did they feel the need to pit it against all of the huge heavy hitters instead of letting it thrive in a less competitive market. Isn't a really successful show on a less popular night more rewarding for a studio than a moderately popular on the most crowded night in tv history? Why make it compete with all this? I agree with the guy who said FOX hires from the special needs school. They're fucktarded.
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I thought they wrapped up season 1 nicely-- it answered all of the season's major questions, and opened up new possibilities at the same time.
The season 2 premiere just didn't capitalize on any of that momentum, and instead took ten giant steps backwards. Amnesia as a plot reset button? SRSLY? -
This doesn't look good. It's going to lose it's 18-49 viewership with all that competition.
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Supernatural.
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Too many damn shows that I want to see on between 8 and 10pm. And there's nothing worthwhile on at 10-11pm!It's this crap that started me downloading and the networks seem eager to keep me getting their shows from the internet.
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Yeah, I never heard of it, either.
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Sep 25, 2009 5:59:26 PM CDT
Breaking: V to air 4 eps in November, then return **next March**
by pennsydeux
Per Entertainment Weekly: http://tinyurl.com/y87dsw7. Sorry, folks.
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They got 1 season with Fishburne and viewers aren't going for another one with him. Community's pilot was great, but the second episode wasn't anywhere near as good as the pilot. Flashforward should have waited until Lost ended before making it's debut. Their target audience still yearn for Lost's return to invest themselves in a new series.
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Community is absolute shit, to think I got hyped because it had McHale, Jeong, Olliver and Chevy Chase in it. But oh God, that show is horrible.
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You people were crapping your pants at the first episode.
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that's one of the reasons why Fringe's ratings are down. Liked Flashforward, but I wish Hollywood would quit using those foreign actors do American (not very good) accents! How about hiring some real American actors, Hollywood!
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Still, though Petersen left. But here's still hope he returns for some eps. It's still a great show for me! Unique and ringin' all kinds of emotions. Not like its sister series (especially Miami...) My TOP5 atm: 1. LOST 2. HOUSE 3. CSI 4. 24 5. Supernatural Still waitin' for Fringe to suck me in....
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will retain $300 Million for the Jay Leno Show. Good riddance when it leaves the 10 PM show time slot.
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Why the hell did they move Fringe to Thursday?!? Aren't Tuesday and Wednesday just a bunch of reality crap with nothing for traditional tv watchers who actually like stories? Fringe would've done fine, but those a-holes at Fox put it on the night with some of the most popular shows out there. I HATE FOX!!!!!
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I agree about moving fringe and bones back to wednsdays. There's nothing i'm interested in mondays/tuesday/weds. But on Thursdays there all one. Bones, Fringe, Flashforward, Supernatural, Survivor and The Office. Its like all the shows I like are jammed on the same night. I'm not sure if anyone has similar viewing habits.. but I think they need to spread it out a little.
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It's always the top rated show in it's hour. If anything plummeted, it was shit on CW.
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or another "Lost". What's this? Oh Flashforward? Make it like Lost and we'll fund it.
Wait, what? This is more like Smallville, not Lost. What? Lost can't be replicated? Oh...OK.
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I figured it would have been 50% since the show sucks so bad, but hey, what would you expect from Kurtzman & Orci something of quality?
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I loved almost every minute of it. The promo was terrible, though. And really didn't make clear when the premier was taking place. I was actually surprised during Survivor (which is definitely "on" this year) when I realized it was on next. That frozen action scene with the slow music worked great to open the show, but it just didn't grab your attention as a commercial. Too wallpapery. Hopefully the audience will return, because I think they did a good job of addressing some of the issues during all the recent staff changeover (including Riley, who left during the off-season). Interesting story threads were started and it ended with a weird Pulp Fiction kinda cliff hanger (that doesn't appear to get answered next week). Anyway, babbling for sure. Really digging Survivor and CSI was great.
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Fox doesn't want another X-FILES on its hands where they've got motivation to keep it despite their abject hatred of genre fans. But they do, however, have contracts that usually say things like "We can take it off the air and cancel the contract if ratings fall below 'X'" - suddnely, they're moving it to a death slot. What. Do. You. Know?
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MODERN FAMILY rocked!
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but I was going so out of my way to avoid VAMPIRE DIARIES I didn't remember this week was the premiere, thinking that godawful looking piece of shit VD (!) was on instead.
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Sep 25, 2009 9:49:04 PM CDT
ffs, smallville is actually ripping off flashforward this season
by ravex
can't they at least choose good shows to steal major plot lines from?!?
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ago. Yesterday's episode was #3 for this season.
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supernatural premiered 2 weeks ago. this week was s05e03.
but, on the bright side, if you avoided any kind of exposure to vampire diaries... maybe, just maybe, it was worth it. -
Probably enjoys shit like Reaper.
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Dean kills a vampire set to Lynyrd Skynyrd's 'Simple Man'.
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It sure seems like you're right that Fox doesn't want this to work. My question is, why do they keep buying shows like this and even some comedies only to make them fail seemingly on purpose. Anyone in here know enough about the tv biz to explain this to me. Sounds like when Kramer said on Seinfeld that companies love to "write it off"--but how does that work and how does it benefit them? Fox seems to love creating failures by moving shows.
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and i saw community, and wasnt impressed...and leno can keep drawing small numbers and still make the network a profit
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that NBC makes money on in primetime. The other shows like Heroes, and L&O are so expensive and get no ratings. Instead of losing money for five hours of primetime, profitable Leno just makes sense. didn't even know Rush was on yesterday. Did Leno ask him about Barack the magic negro song?
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I didn't watch Fringe last year. I tend to avoid watching Fox shows in their first season. We all know why.
When I heard it was picked up for a second season I thought I'd give it a try. Nothing else really on on Tuesdays.
Then they inexplicably moved it to Thursday.
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is that everybody in this fucking show is soooo fucking bland. John Noble really doesn't fit in, because he's the only interesting character. The rest of them sound like fucking robots, and they all have dead eyes. And yes I'm including Jackson in that group too.
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There, I said it. He holds back the rest of the cast.
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1.)I was surprised they brought back SNL Thursday considering that SNL usually does boffo numbers during election years and slides in non-election years. Without Sarah Palin impersonations, I knew SNL Thursdays would tank. I am betting that tonight's episode will be down from last year's premiere too.
2.)The 9PM hour is too crowded. All four majors bring out their big guns and all, but Grey's has suffered from it. I think now that they wrapped up the death of George if they will maintain the numbers though.
3.) Leno is dangerously reaching that 1.5 share mark that executives say is the threshold of profitability.
4.) Parks and Recreation has improved, but still is a shell of the Office which has been kinda coasting itself for a number of years.
5.) I don't get the Community ballwashing. I think the show is ok, but nothing special.
6.) I think Fringe did itself a disservice to totally not address what happened in the alternative universe right off the bat. I think they had fans tuning in to see more of the other universe and the first two episodes have only given lipservice to it. The past episode went back to the "monster of the week" format.
7.) While on the subject of Fringe, the show runners need geography lessons big time. Coming from Massachusetts, I know they get a lot wrong (for example putting a river in a town with no water within miles of the town). But Thursday's episode stretched all semblence of reality. They made the driving from Boston to Pennsylvania seem like a nice hour drive with Peter and Olivia driving back and forth several times. A drive to even the closest parts of Pennsylvania from Boston is 5-6 hours each way. I actually looked it up and Lansdale, PA to Boston is 5 and a half hour drive without traffic. I know it is a small thing, but these types of things drive me crazy. -
I used to watch it live on Tuesdays, but now that it's on Thursday I can't be bothered. FUCK FOX for moving the timeslot. I do have the episodes queued up to watch though, just gotta make time. Been keeping up wtih Supernatural, still awesome as ever and this week's final act was really good. I watched the premiere of FlashForward, I'm liking it a lot and was glued to the screen the whole time.
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You know it, we know it, so-leave him be.
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. . . after their underwhelming and over-hyped premieres last week.
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i watch fringe now ever since petersen left i lost interest in csi
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Interesting concept, but the acting (Joseph Fiennes is a plank!) was sub-par and the least said about the cheap as fuck CGI tanker explosion the better. However, I'll keep watching, because 90% of UK TV is just awful (Yes, I download US TV from t'interweb. I don't want to wait ages to see something thats been on US TV for months or years promoted as "new" ala "How I Met Your Mother") "Fringe" is good, despite the last episode being a total "X-Files" clone.
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You just summed up every Robert J. Sawyer novel...
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The problem is that when forced to take an American accent they lose half their charm and personality. This is so common, happens all the time. Producers see a good foreign actor and assume that if they cast them as an American they'll retain that charm but they rarely do. I'll still keep watching FF but just sayin'.
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It's earned a spot on the DVR
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But I really hope it just tells its story and goes. Despite effort, I cant really get into Fringe. I wouldn't call that last episode an X Files clone so much as a rewritten episode that never aired.
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I wonder if it's the kid's father that shows up at the hospital?
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It's got an interesting premise, the acting was decent and the production values stellar. I hope it's the inheritoy to ABC's top drama slot after Lost departs. That being said, I'm ready for it to plummet down a vortex of suck, since that turdy ass-clown Brannon Braga is involved.
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SO, SO, SO FUCKING HORRID. IT'S LIKE THAT LAST SEASON OR 2 OF XFILES ONLY WORSE. IF THAT'S EVEN FUCKING POSSIBLE.
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Do networks consider Tivo/DVR recordings, or views on Hulu, fancast, or even the networks homepages?
I wonder what the ratings would look like if those things are part of it.
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