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Huge Starts For MODERN & COUGAR!! SVU Plummets!! BEAUTIFUL Numbers Ugly!! Wednesday Ratings!!
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The networks were all finally at full strength with fresh Wednesday episodes last night; the 18-49 scores:
4.3 Modern Family
4.3 Cougar Town
4.2 Criminal Minds
4.0 CSI: NY
3.2 Dancing With The Stars
3.0 Eastwick
3.0 Glee
2.5 Law & Order: SVU
2.5 So You Think You Can Dance
2.4 Gary Unmarried
2.3 Mercy
2.3 The New Adventures of Old Christine
2.0 The Jay Leno Show
1.3 America’s Next Top Model
0.5 The Beautiful Life
* ABC’s “Modern Family,” likely the best-reviewed new show of fall, came out on top for the night alongside slotmate “Cougar Town.” The pair took out a lot of tough competition at the 9 p.m. hour, including “Criminal Minds,” “Glee,” and “Law & Order: SVU,” which plummeted a terrifying 34% from its 10 p.m. 2008 premiere.
* In the sitcom realm, only Monday’s “Big Bang Theory” (4.6) and “Two and a Half Men” (4.4) have pulled higher numbers than “Modern” and “Cougar” this autumn.
* “SVU” has been the strongest of the “Law & Orders” for years now and was, if I remember correctly, NBC’s top-rated scripted show at the end of last season. Could this fourth-place finish finally signal the end of the 20-year-old franchise on broadcast television?
* “Mercy” debuted in the lower middle of the 8 p.m. pack, ahead of “Top Model” and “Old Christine” but behind “Gary Unmarried” and the two dance shows.
* “Leno’s” number, better than Monday but weaker than Tuesday, left him for the third night in a row the weakest of the big-four shows.
* “The Beautiful Life” drew an abyssmal 1.1 million viewers, compared to the 2.5 million “Veronica Mars” averaged during its final year three seasons ago.
Find all of James Hibberd’s analysis of the Wednesday-night ratings here.
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Im fortunate not to have CW, cause if I did I'd never watch it.
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very good show. likable cast that were all great in the pilot. hope the humor keeps coming.
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team mariska hargitay and goldblum on the original bring back that hot piece of ass alicia witt and put her own svu and move Ice T to criminal intent. And if the damn hallmark channel can keep churning out these lame detective female movies how come they can't produce three or four veronica mars cable movies a year.
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We get it, Veronica Mars was the greatest show ever and the CW was stupid for cancelling it, and no other show on the CW has ever been able to match the sheer greatness of Kristen Bell's no-ass having ass!
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That's funny as hell. I love the girl but she could use a booty implant
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Good on you, Nielson families. Now let's get that to none, 5 days a week and maybe next season we'll only have a handful. How many dance competition shows does the world need? Answer: 1. And it includes executions at the end, especially if politicians are competing. And nudity.
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Was pretty fucking funny. Cougar had some funny moments, but its edited in this odd way. Like shit happens to perfectly. Like it was slapped together last minute, like a rush job. Glee is an awful show but it has 2 funny as shit moments in each episode so far. The story though is starting to get interesting. Did anyone watch Scr...I mean Mercy?
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cold, dead hands.
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Sure 2.5 looks big to 1.1 but when your top number is only 4.3. What were the top numbers during V Mars run?
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Sep 24, 2009 1:06:36 PM CDT
SVU wasn't bad last night, but Law & Order looks good this seaso
by royston lodge
...as they follow Jack McCoy's re-election campaign.
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I felt the same way, like the editor had some sort of attention disorder and the original cut was 44 min. And they need to decide that the performers are aware of the cameras or not. This half-assed thing is bad. But it was VERY funny. Almost as good as Big Bang Theory, which has been consistently funny from day one. It reminds me of the old days of filmed sitcoms like Cheers and Taxi. Tons of quotable characters, laugh out loud moments and pure geek/nerd accuracy/attention to detail.
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just to give Ty Burrell a steady job. Give this man at least two seasons damn it, he deserves it.
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Is mighty fine looking.
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The premiere kicked ass! The new ADA is hunting heads and a loose-cannon cop is 'helping' the SVU team on a rape-murder case. No happy ending here. Best episode in years.
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I don't think I'll seek the show out again unless I happen across it while channel surfing, but I like that they're at least trying to do something new. A son walking in on his mother giving a blowjob to her date qualifies as edgy on network TV, so, good for them.
It feels like there's a good show in there somewhere, the pilot just wasn't it. Maybe if they don't get canceled they'll find a stride and become more watchable. -
Too gay for this site?
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Hahahah-- NBC has nearly committed suicide by giving into this hack's demands. How long till this crap is cancelled?
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You dont like that Veronica Mars was cancelled. Must you compare it every post?
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Get with the 21st century.
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Hardest I've laughed watching a sitcom in a looooooonnnnnng time.
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It's a little too over the top. But the son was good. That guy's funny.
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Glee is an overrated mess. Modern Family gives me the creeps. It's all women television. At least on cable I can watch Ghost Hunters or Man VS Food
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Thanks for posting these ratings. A "Glee" talk back would be appreciated also.
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Why not compare these ratings to Angel which had consistanly better ratings than all of these shows? After all this is coax and what is coax without some Whedon worship?
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Sep 24, 2009 2:19:24 PM CDT
Sonny_Williams: I thought the season premiere fell flat
by royston lodge
Christine Lahti as the new ADA and the dude from Prison Break as the "renegade cop" was excessive stunt casting. One of the cool aspects of L&O has often been breakout roles from lesser-known actors. I half expect the entire cast of Hill Street Blues to be given roles this year.
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Sep 24, 2009 2:20:54 PM CDT
Keep reminding the CW (WB) that they blew it with Veronica Mars
by houdini1926
Idiots! I hope they have no connection or input on the upcoming VM movie (oh yeah, it's on it's way).
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Suck it longer and suck it hard. Actually not a good thing for NBC with the other ratings. I still contend the ratings are dead and we should start counting Hulu and DVRs.
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weak
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Kiss that Whedon.
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You're just an insecure idiot.
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Alicia Witt is a hot piece of ass!!
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Cost and face savings the only reasons for him to be on the air. He's cheaper than a scripted show with actors and if NBC bails now they have to admit they were wrong. But this was never gonna work long-term.
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Um, yes it is. The big audience for that show is women. Find me a guy on the street that watches Glee.
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joss whedon didnt create veronica mars...
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Modern Family looks really good. Lots of potential. And I really enjoy Glee. Cougar Town though tripped all over itself. Like the type of fake comedy we'd have if the pods start taking over, but don't want the non-pod people to know yet, so once they take over the airwaves they try to imitate what TV comedies are like. But don't let them fool you-- Keep watching the skies! The forgotten has an interesting premise, but the execution is unimaginative-- just like any other drab cop show on TV already (and did we really need [SPOILER] the fake poignancy of having Slater's own daughter be one of the missing?) [END OF SPOILER] We didn't even attempt to watch Mercy after seeing the promotions. Feisty lady nurse who really, really cares about her patients? Was the script written in crayon? I'd tell the producers and writers: No more banannas for you if you can't come up with an original idea and dialog. Observation: Ever notice on these gawd-awful shows how the direction and production value are competent -- it's just the writing that sucks? Finally, I hate having Leno hog 5 hours of TV that could go towards scripted shows, but the grim truth is that unless his ratings stay below 1.5 consistently, he's still making money for NBC, so they're probably popping a cork right about now.
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Sep 24, 2009 4:54:02 PM CDT
NBC needs to borrow its sister Univision's Sabado Gigante Format
by dailysportspages
And use that for Leno on Saturdays.
He could have a nice 3 hour show every Saturday, giving him a nice showcase for his little games, up and coming comics, musical number, his various segments such as jaywalking and the one with newspaper ads, etc... He could even incorporate some skits in there as well, why not?
It could be like a combination of his Tonight Show, an old fashioned Variety Show, and a SNL for old people :)
You put it on from like 7PM to 10PM, followed by one of those reality recaps or news shows, the regular news at 11, and then the old people can go to sleep and SNL starts.
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If you're new here, the guy posts flame bait in every talkback in an attempt to piss people off and get attention.
Ignore him and hopefully one of these days the mods will get annoyed enough to ban him. -
Sep 24, 2009 5:14:44 PM CDT
I think Dick Wolf wants to strangle Leno and Zucker right now.
by pennsydeux
Not necessarily in that order. SVU got bumped out of its cushy 10PM slot and those were the ratings they got?
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In 1981 the advertising firm of Melton, Beecher, and Holcomb (NY) was having trouble attracting new television clients. A junior partner, Hailey Jane Barkum took to her bosses a new scenario that would change TV advertising forever. She claimed that research done by her and her staff indicated that the firm should start to divert itself to clients that skewed toward the "middle years" range because they were more likely to buy the products their clients offered and they would be longer living customers. MB and H bit, and they developed the 18-49 model that is in use today. The firm took the numbers to the networks and they also bit. Since then most programming has been skewed toward this age group and advertisers look for these shows to sell ad time on. There is just one problem. The research never existed. Barkum and her crew made it up because, get this, they were tired of working half a day on Saturday and they figured if they could get their department split into another section they would have those days off. Needless to say, it worked. And today, advertisers push their products to that group. There is, however, another problem. There is absolutely no evidence anywhere that advertising to this group has raised sales numbers. As a matter of fact, this group ranks near the bottom in purchasing new products. Why? 1. Because they don't have any money. They are raising a family, paying off college debt, buying a house, etc. 2. Mostly, research shows they buy the same products they grew up with because they know it works and they are familiar with it. Who then, buys the "new" stuff? 10-17 and over 55. And guess what, a greater percentage of them watch TV than 18-49. By the way, only the last part of this is true.
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The only reason why he's putting these ratings report up is to remind us ... again ... about CW cancelling Veronica Mars. God forbid this jackass actually try to give us real news. Somebody needs to stab this fucking idiot in the head so we can get somebody else to do these. I don't condone violence except if it's to Herc.
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really really really annoying to read a shitty nod to veronica mars in every of yours articles...face it, cancelled is cancelled and you will never have the chance to get close to the living doll (and i say that not because he's cute, but because she looks like made in plastic) that it's kristen bell
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Pretty good beginning.
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Ben Silverman put a deathnail of a fall schedule up and then went running for the hills. Leno will bring down ratings for all their shows. L&O:SVU vs. Criminal Minds, the ABC comedy block, and Glee sends them scrambling for rating scraps. It would hold its own at 10PM, but Leno is sucking there.
Leno may be profitable with a 2 share, but it send their legacy 10 PM shows into the 8-10PM log jam. A weekly procedural that deals with rape and other sex crimes probably isn't appealing at 9PM. -
At least in the hearts and minds of her loyal fans. And, has anyone heard about the tentative moving ahead plans for the "VM" movie? Spill!
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level ratings may be just enough to make that stupid Leno show profitable enough/low risk enough to stay on the air. 1.6 will certainly kill it. At least 2.0 probably isn't enough to inspire thoughts of replicating this horrible experiment in the empty echo chambers of the other networks.
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...got old. If possible, will someone please make him younger again. Thank you in advance.
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rather than watch tv...cuz it seems that millions have quit the habit...does everyone own a wii now?
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You have to admit that while "90210" and "Gossip Girl" seemingly pull in lower ratings, they are 2 of The CW's most illegally downloaded shows. If you do a YouTube search the next day after each show airs, you will find the full episodes illegally uploaded on the site with thousands of views. Also both shows are consistently in the iTunes Top 10. "Veronica Mars" was a well done show with top notch acting and a strong female lead. But it never had the online following or presence both "Gossip Girl" and "90210" have. And it was rarely a top iTunes download. Oddly, "Gossip Girl" is their most buzzed about show this season, but "90210" has changed it's entire tone and became a completely different animal since Rebecca Rand Kirshner Sinclair started overseeing it. No longer is it a show where the writers throw the characters into stupid issue driven plots. Now the characters are defined and drive what's happening. And that's a good thing. I never watched "Gilmore Girls", but I guess this Rebecca Sinclair chick knows what the fuck she is doing. "90210" has become their best show (and dare I say it, better than the original).
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Sep 24, 2009 8:39:35 PM CDT
Also Telemundo is an NBC Universal Network.. Not Univision..
by mr. profit
But that idea could be very good. With loads of real good guests and performers packed into 3 hours on Saturdays.
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that is...
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How long before they pull the plug?
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In hoping that Hulu, DVR and NBC/ABC/CBS website views are counted towards the perception of what's being "watched" by the american public. I count myself and several friends amongst those who watch most of our television programs on the internet due to work/school/soul-sucking-children schedules during the week. I'm looking forward to a Community/Office/Parks/FlashForward/Modern Family/Glee cocktail this Saturday afternoon. Anyone else get their viewing in like this?
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I watched a DVR'd episode of the 2009 World Series of Poker. Not one of the shows on the list warrants one second of my valuable time. Looks like Thursday and Friday are the only network nights with anything intelligent to watch (FlashForward, Fringe, Dollhouse.)
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They will keep Leno on even if he gets Flight of the Conchords-esque ratings, because the minute they give him his walking papers, NBC will be admitting to the world they fucked up.
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You're just a mod wannabe, that thinks he's hot shit on the net. Your type is a dime a dozen.
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What about ratings like Bob Newhart was talking about at the Emmys:"We got a minus 7. How do you get a minus 7? Not only was no one watching, but households who didn't own a television said that even if they did have one they still wouldn't have watched".
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and put Law and Order stuff at ten.
I'm not sure who the audience is for Leno. The show has too much crap for "reality" fools (such as that "ghosting" competition).
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Looks like they are going to merge the traditional family comedy with some social satire. It's not going to be South Park but it was good stuff -- big laughs and totally established the premise and characters in 23 minutes. Hope the show can live up to it because the first episode was really, really funny.
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I lasted until the insipid Daryle Van Horn.
sadly evrything up to that point was was descinding too bad, bad and ...worst. Look for real fall off next week then inevitabe mid season cancellation. -
Sep 25, 2009 12:50:00 AM CDT
"you will never have the chance to get close to the living doll"
by hercules
I stood behind Kristen Bell at a Starbucks three months or so ago. True story.
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It can be tough to find ratings info sometimes, so I appreciate it.
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Sep 25, 2009 1:23:26 AM CDT
NBC wont pull the plug on Leno - cause the show is profitable
by juansanchez
You can produce a whole week of Leno for the cost of one hour-long drama. NBC will keep placing 3rd, but will make a lot of money.
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No wonder it's going downhill.
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I guess these are the catchalls for shows that don't merit their own postings. The CW functions because they know that their #1 task is to attract flies, and the best way to do that is with shit, even though it's shit.
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I really like the way you sort out the ratings. Much easier to read than other sites out there like Hitfix. Haven't watched Cougar Town yet (it's on my DVR), but Modern Family was definitely quality. I will continue to watch it
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and America is not going to watch a show that dark/mature in the second hour of primetime. Other people have tried it before, NBC included, and it didnt work. That type of content can succeed and has succeeded at a later time but NBC's stuck...until it cancels Leno.
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I agree with many of the talkbackers. L&O shows are perfect for the 10p.m. slot. You didn't need to watch them every week if you were too tired or could just toon in if there was nothing else on.
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Guy. Married. Watch it with my wife. Any guy on this board whining about Glee must not have seen the "I bust the windows out your car" musical number.
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I hope every single new show they program continues to tank in the ratings, because these exec's need to learn their lesson somehow.
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My wife & I both laughed out loud SIGNIFICANTLY more than we did w/Modern Family (which we both like, too!). We like Glee, but (as always) Robert Bianco..the best TV critic working...is dead-on in his assessment of the bipolar nature of that show; the entire baby plot(s) has to go. On what freaking planet would a father not touch and LOOK at his pregnant wife's belly on a daily basis? Now they're actually looking to EXTEND the impossible charade to the point where a baby-swap w/the cheerleader might be plausible? OH...the funniest show on TV is..hands down...Psych.
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Singing and dancing sex crime solving is where it's at!!
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I still like the show, but I think more of Finn and Much would help. Mariska is always a goddess and a good actor, but it seems the show stresses Benson a little too much.
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The top rating show they had was WWE Smackdown, now people can think what they like about wrestling but cutting a show that rates about twice as much as your next best rated show is just plain stupid especially when production cost wise it's relativly cheap. They used the excuse that they were targeting young womenbut clearly these people have no idea what young women actually watch.
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Leno's content isn't appropriate for 10pm. It's a family-friendly show. So by pushing everything else to an earlier timeslot Leno is forcing all the dramatic writers to water down their stuff.
NBC's nightly schedule could go something like this:
8pm - Stupid reality show.
9pm - Leno
10pm - Something decent.
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. . . use the show to PROMOTE the rest of the evening. His guests could all be whoever's guest starring on the shows running after Leno.
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Sep 26, 2009 12:39:09 PM CDT
Hercules: And you weren't arrested for lewd behaviour?
by royston lodge
I'm disappointed in you.
You do not get a coveted Royston Lodge No-Prize.
I expect a written apology on my desk by 4pm. -
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