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Brundlefly returns and Cronenberg looks to be returning with him!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. A dark, twisted, cynical side of me was waiting for this news of a remake of David Cronenberg's remake of THE FLY because I could then pull out "Be afraid. Be VERY afraid" for the headline. But then David Cronenberg went and fucked that up for me. Thanks, Dave.
A remake/reimagining/reworking/whatever of THE FLY is indeed in the works according to Steven Zeitchik at Hollywood Reporter's Risky Business Blog, but it's being spearheaded by David Cronenberg himself. Word is he's directing and potentially writing this reboot.
I actually went to LA to see his bizarre opera based on THE FLY. I don't know if it was worth the north of $200 ticket, but I did enjoy myself.
I'm curious about this project. A part of me doesn't want to see Cronenberg going back to the well and a part of me is giddy as a schoolboy to see him tackle a big scale FLY movie again. Does this mean we're going to see Viggo Mortensen as Seth Brundle? Or will Cronenberg be fucking awesome and just pull Jeff Goldblum away from that cop show? Or will Seth Brundle even exist in the remake?
It might be better to go a whole new direction just as he did in the original remake. I do demand acid vomit melting off some douchebag's foot, though.
So, yeah. We'll see how this progresses.
-Quint
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...I'm in.
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at the end. That was the only mistake in that movie. At that point, theres no way Brundlefly would have been capable of asking for a mercy killing. She should have just shot him as he moved towards her.
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That's dedication! Or stupidity. Not sure:-).
This is a tough one. On the one hand, a Fly movie with modern techniques/technology could be great, on the other hand, this is The Fly. Maybe it's better left alone.
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Completely disagree. That moment makes the ending for me. It's tragic and shows that even with all that has happened to him some part of Seth Brundle is still in there.
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but since they're remaking Videodrome I'd rather Cronenberg do that himself (maybe he will?)
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WHY?!?!?!?!?
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eXistenZ, I thought it was pretty great with some fascinating practical effects, but it got overlook by The Matrix of course (cuz every movie that came out in 1999 that was about virtual reality just HAD to be compared to The Matrix even if virtual reality was the only similarity)
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If he is going to do this, then it should be a completely different story; remaking the remake just to add extra added CGI fuckery is hackery at best, desperation at worst.Hopefully Cronenberg will go the complete departure route..and we'll get a fresh, new story based on an old premise. Perhaps some scientist runs across Brundles work, tries to duplicate it...or maybe uses Brundles theories to create hybrids on a genetic level, as Brundle himself became. So Long as it is not "The Fly"...I'm fine with it.
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.. I know I'm supposed to be pissed off about remakes.. but if the original guy is remaking his own stuff? Can't decide! Brain aneurysm!
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Like a lot of iconoclastic directors he managed to make his best work while doing the big-budget studio thing. Like Carpenter with THE THING, De Palma with THE UNTOUCHABLES and Scorsese with GOODFELLAS.
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Redo the effects.
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I have an idea. How about somebody come up with an original concept? I'd like to see an original movie.
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If there is going to be a remake, I would love to see Cronenberg be the man to do it. The Fly is an awesome movie, and some of those effects can use an update. Just keep PG-13 away from this.
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Is one of the most memorable moments of the flick....that seals the deal for me.
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I remember it coming out from under a robe in the theater, but not seeing it on the DVD. Worst editing ever.
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I don't know where you would take it. Yet I'm not being paid the big bucks to tackle that proposition.
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and Carpenter should remake The Fly. I'm all for remakes if they bring something new to the table. I think I probably would have preferred the Alien prequel to be directed by someone OTHER than Ridley Scott. Thatsaid I'm still looking forward to it.
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I know RR redid El Mariachi with Desperado, sort of. I'm trying to think of someone else whose done that, I'm sure I've overlooked something obvious. Ring @ doesn't count.
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show respect, dont do a shitty ass remake just to show THE FLY fly
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I'm down.
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Raimi sort of remade Evil Dead with Evil Dead 2. I don't know if that counts.
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And Michael Haneke remade Funny Games himself.
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I gotta get that on my Limewi...er...Netflix. I haven't seen that in a while.
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Why the fuck does it need a remimaginakening?
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You've made an outstanding point - Evil Dead 2 AND Heneke's 'US' Funny Games were both remakes and better than the original. The_Coyote hit the nail on the head - when the original director revisits their original material, the result is usually dripping in pussy juice. I'm in.
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Here comes a cheap shot, but: I'm sure most Star Wars fans would beg to differ.
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how about someone who goes from good looking to ugly this time. I could barely tell the change in Goldblum
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...The Man Who Knew Too Much, and brought something new to it. He preferred the remake, though a lot of people say the original is the better piece. I like both.
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Not sure who Aldred was, but he wasn't half as good as Alf.
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"Evil Dead 2 AND Heneke's 'US' Funny Games were both remakes and better than the original". Really? I guess we saw different movies. Both of those were OK movies but both fell short of their forerunners. As for a "Fly" remake, well if someone HAS to do one (and it seems that in today's Hollywood all films must now be remade, at least once) then it may as well be Cronenberg, IF he takes a radically new approach. Seems odd that he would go back to such blatantly genre material though, he seems to have almost re-invented himself over the last couple of decades, if you look at his choice of projects. Well, almost..
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Remember? It was originally a equally great movie from the 50s...
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Just watched it three weeks ago- he just needs to CGI a modern hairstyle onto Geena Davis and the remake is done.
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I share your cautious enthusiasm. I've loved The Fly ever since I saw it when I was a little kid... I think Cronenberg can pull it off.... Then again, I thought Spielberg and Lucas could pull off Indy 4...
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Why are all these classic movie's being re-imagined. Enough already... Come up with a new concpet for a movie.. A new idea entirely.. This is silly in my opinion as how can a CGI based movie surprise us anymore like the original did and still does to new viewers??
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David didn't write the first Fly Remake, he tweaked the script plenty, but mostly to add more relationship elements. The whole computer "learning the flesh" always felt off, like imitation Cronenberg, and sure enough it was. The melodrama of the whole thing really hasn't aged well either. Don't get me wrong, I'm saying this with a special edition of the movie on the shelf next to me. I do love The Fly, but if he wants to take another shot at it, I'm fine with that (I really expect he wants the opera version on screen) even if I could think of a few projects I'd prefer he tackle.
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I would like to see a new soundtrack. That music, though great, took me out of the movie......
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...with Jenna Jameson in the Marilyn Chambers (RIP) role
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Why? His 1986 version is classic. Don't do it Dave, please...
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Funny that this is an example of a remake that was better than the original and now we (well, not the collective we) want to remake it. How could it help but underwhelm? What is with all the "jew" talk, btw? Wtf? You do realize that antisemitism is a pastime for sore losers, right?
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..with Brad Pitt and Angeline Jolie and Alec Baldwin
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I was so stoned, I didnt know what the fuck was going on but it felt so evil and dramatic... a theatre scene that had the weight of the world in its delivery. Also, Id rather see a new scifi/(or)horror movie from Cronenberg written by him then this. Im scared shitless for the videodrome remake.. LONG LIVE THE NEW(OLD) FLESH
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..with Stephen Lack and Michael Ironside and Jenna Jameson
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Shes got a dick in real life. Yes, Ive sucked it.
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The man is notorious for his originality. As if he will remake his masterpiece which was already a remake of sorts. THE FLY reboot is one of the scariest moives ever made.
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Screw flies... have him merge with some rare and obscure insect with a really long name.
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the insect that lives in pussies
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John McTIernan came back to the Diehard series in diehard with avengence and it worked really well. Dont do a remake make a sequel the Fly 2 was flawed but still built on the originals high points (cold bastard industrealist scientists following/stealing Brundles work and maggot baby oh-yeah). please be a hard R also have some fly(ing) action in a built up area . giant fly buzzing around the city freaking people out!
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the italian hair dresser that steals meatballs from the children and the man with wooden shoes. No relation to any of Cronenbergs work... yet. Anyone seen those two one hour movies of his.. The one with the institute for higher consciousness... Cronenberg needs to at least make a low budget film along those lines once again... for the mind altering folk.
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If Cronenberg is involved, that makes me curious. Very curious.
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With big named actresses....drool.
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it's big buisness funded, but someone has a grudge and they place a fly in the other teleporter. Knowing it will ruin the presentation. You know they will do something like that. I'd rather see a big budget remake of shivers. Alfred remade TMWKTM.
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the original is just a bit too low budget for it to really pull off the premise, plus the acting is really bad
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but since the scribe for the remake of the crazies pretty much ripped of the Ladies Night theme to give th eremake a new plot. Well fuck... I guess never.
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I just checked imdb and I learn that Cronenberg is four years older than Stephen King and three years older than Spielberg, I did not know he was that old
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Sep 24, 2009 4:52:04 AM CDT
anyway a remake of The Brood might not be a bad idea either
by the amazing g
The Brood is damn scary and Oliver Reed is the shit, but I've always thought the movie was too vague with what Psychoplasmics were supposed to be, I mean what the heck was the deal with Psychoplasmics anyway?
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There's also George Sluizer remaking his own The Vanishing - and the remake wasn't even close to as good as the original. Haneke's Funny Games retread works but doesn't match the original. But then to be fair Haneke himself said it wasn't made for people that liked the original he made it so Americans that wouldn't sit through subtitles could see the story, so unfair to compare them i guess. Hitchcock's Man Who Knew Too Much remake is superior to the still excellent original. Cronenberg's Fly is so much better than the 50s Vincent Price film it just isn't funny. There are so many great sci-fi films of the 50s but The Fly has a disproportionately rose-tinted remembrance for many. It really is pretty shit (although it has a dynamite final scene). Carpenter's The Thing and Cronenberg's The Fly are, for me, the best 2 remakes ever but The Fly edges it in the "best remake" category as while i prefer The Thing as a film the gulf between it and its superb original is not as wide.
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"The Fly" isn't THAT dated is it? All the effects are practical and work as I recall. It's a classic.
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And they just re-release the one they already made. Fuck me that movie is not that dated. Hollywood needs a fucking reboot.
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Your villian role in Nightbreed was badass. Him and Tsyukamoto should have a buddy road trip film in which they go on a surrealistc journey through a veneral disease on a magical motorcycle.
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Tsukamoto*
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polish movie posters rock.have a taste:
http://www.retrocrush.com/archive2006/polishposters/
http://blowupthemoon.com/showthread/t-3486.html
http://www.poster.com.pl/vintage-movie-poster.htm
http://www.polish-poster.com/film-poster.htm
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I'm still smitten with her.
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Though the original is still wicked creepy - the part near the end where even the little girl gets in on the action is pretty squirmy.
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I am just glad Cronies is back to doing horror and is getting away from the dramas like Spider, History of Violence and Eastern Promises. I thought all those were dull and overrated.
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That's a guilty pleasure.
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Come on!
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Sep 24, 2009 6:08:37 AM CDT
I have no problem with a director and/or producer remaking their
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...although it sucks that they don't come up with something new.
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Otherwise, my indignation still stands.
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thats funny, the movie i saw had a 6-7min retelling of the first movie (due to rights issues otherwise it woulda been actual Part 1 flashbacks) and then it continues exactly where the first movie left off. how people, fans even, can ever call it a remake i'll never understand. i never hear anybody say that AOD is a remake and it does the exact same thing that Part 2 did. some people are strange.
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But it was not a remake originally.
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Sorry sir Alfred Hitchcock :D ;)
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Is there a shortage of scripts in Hollywood or something?
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Oh wait, that's not Funny Girl, it's the Polish The Fly poster. Thanks Quint and ominus... very glad to have learned of this freaked-out Polish movie poster phenomenon.
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Sep 24, 2009 7:11:41 AM CDT
He's remaking his own movie? Is he trying to be
by grammaton cleric binks
Lucas?
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...You make this and you just might get sued by the Jack Kirby Estate!
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...the Jerry Siegel Estate as well!
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Cronenberg is an imaginative guy. I'm sure he has hundreds of cool ideas floating around in his head that he'd much rather make (unless like everyone else he's out of ideas), but no doubt the studio folks are just saying "just redo this thing you already did". Why spend two years of your life remaking your own work, which was well done and well cast. The effects will be a little more dazzling, the CGI wilkl be there of course, but what about the acting and the story? Arrgh, let it go and move on. Otherwise he's just another George "I can't do anything but zombies" Romero.
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For one thing 1986 The Fly isn't dated at all, i watched it last week and it holds up superbly. In the DVD commentary Cronenberg talks about how now they'd do Brundlefly CG but that you get the humanity of the character better by having Goldblum in the make-up/suit and it would lose that in a CG version. There's no shortage of scripts in Hollywood just imagination - studios won't task perceived risks on new material when they can retread stuff that has worked before. Remember key studio demographic is 15-25 and this is now 23 years old so they perceive this as a generation that won't know the story. It is sadly true that the wider population don't watch much that's pre their lifetime.
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I love both iterations...the beauty of the 86 version is how they took the original concept and and expanded on the notion, rather than a straightforward head/body swap, DC focused on the metamorphsis in mind and body and brain, but not ultimately not soul-hence the powerful assisted death at the end. I hope to God that DC has another idea in which to provide different elements/themes to the story- not just an excuse to update the 86 version with modern effects! DC would not do that, would he??!!!!
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With Cronenberg involved, there's no logic to him remaking a film that is already beloved - the chances of fucking up, even for him, are too high. I agree with one of the other posters here, it has to be a sequel - a completely different researcher trying to build on Brundle's work - perhaps deliberately mixing himself. All I known is a remake by Cronenberg makes no sense. A sequel however by the original team, now that could be fertile ground.
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Because EVERYTHING has to be in 3-D these days, right? It's like, a law or something.
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Opera?
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Not at all. I don't see the point of a remake (one that topped the original), and I don't see the point of the same filmmaker directing the remake of his own film. Granted, I'd RATHER the original filmmaker be involved, but I don't see what he can do better this time. Will it be genetic experiments that create the Fly this time? Will we still get an awesome scene of the female character giving birth to a giant maggot? Or Jeff Goldblum ripping someone's forearm open in an arm-wrestling contest? Really, what can be better?
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Make it a reimagining of both the '58 original and the '86 remake! Oh, and stop calling Cronenberg's "the original"! As a big fan of both, I demand that the Hedison version get some respect! The original HELP MEEEE!!!!!! = Creepiest moment of any pre-1970s horror flick!
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Saw it a few months back, God what a stinker.
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Not as good as you'd think.
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He has been talking about for 12 years? Saying that he has been waiting for technology to catch up to his ideas, so he can put what he sees in his mind on the screen.
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... they wont use any of the budget to make him look like the fly.
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Sep 24, 2009 9:08:22 AM CDT
recently watched the first 80s Fly film all the way through...
by deviant apex
I always remember seeing parts of the film when I was younger, but Id never seen it all the way through before, partially because the film terrified me as a child. Now that Im twenty-one the only things that seem to terrify me anymore are low paychecks and Mariah Carrey.
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Really, life is short. Make another original movie with Viggo. I can't believe Cronenberg will be remaking his own movie. That's so bad.
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how about if cronenberg remade the fly starring mariah carey?
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Viggo being a deep undercover Russian crime lord just BEGS for a continuation of the story. I mean come on!!!
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Sep 24, 2009 9:12:45 AM CDT
MICHAEL JACKSON DID NOT TACKLE ISSUE OF HUMAN/FLY GENE SPLITTIN
by bringingsexyback
But he might have, had he lived.
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admit it, Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis wont be back. This is a REMAKE people. When was the last time the same actors from an original film were cast in a remake? The only remote possibility of their return is if this is a pseudo sequel/remake, and even then I say its highly unlikely.
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Great movie, and a remake would own with new CGI.
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HBO didn't pick up Eastern Promise for series after that pretty good pilot.
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He seems like a douche. Cronenberg would be cool. He'd probably let you work the goo for his movies.
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Yeah, see thats a film that would actually scare the hell out of me. The tagline could be "if you thought Glitter was terrifying, you had absolutely no fucking clue what horror is, until now..."
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at the end of the original story,the man/fly scientists merges with the vanished cat from the failed experiment,and becomes a man-cat-fly monstrosity.who knows maybe Croneberg wants to make this remake more faithful to the original story.
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had the best gimble effects, besting 2001 and Poltergeist. Look at the scene and all the shit in Brundle's lab that had to be fixed in place. Impressive.And I really don't know what Cronenberg could add to a remake to make this any more relevant
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a sequel to Videodrome, now THAT would be the shit
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to create super fly-powered soldiers.they even have wing and they can fly.ofcourse the whole experiment is a failure,the insane prototype soldier escapes,spreading death in his course.then Rambo is sent to kill him,and we have the first movie crossover in film history.
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i'd like to see a story centered on the goldblum and geena davis characters up to the moment they met. all the mundane things they did, like go to MIT, and harvard for journalism, the real deal of the romance with stathis borans, how seth constructed the first pods, etc.
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I always hoped one of the sequels would end with the teenagers turning Jason's body over to cronenberg, just to go full circle on that.
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On the one hand, the concept of "Cronenberg remaking The Fly the way he REALLY wanted to make it, now that the technology has caught up" sure is seductive.
But, that's what we thought about the Star Wars Special Editions, and then the CGI X-Wings sucked ass.
That's what we thought about George Lucas and the prequels. 'nuff said.
That's also the vibe we're supposed to be getting for Avatar, but the jury's still out after that teaser.
There are so many different ways Cronenberg could approach this.
He could go "commercial", simply updating The Fly to make it more appealling to the average modern viewer.
He could also take The Fly in a weird direction, and make it more like one of his more "experimental" movies.
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Not sure who said it above but they are more than likely correct. Doubt it will even do "Repo: The Genetic Opera" business though. He should do the Eastern Promises sequel...Viggo just mentioned that in the press a few weeks ago as a possibility
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but have some other animal jump in the machine with him. A dog, a paraqeet, a nat, an ant, a roach(those fuckers are everywhere), a Transformer toy, a butterfly(for the ladies), a lady bug, AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, MEGAN FUCKIN FOX.....ALL JOKING ASIDE, VIGGO WOULD BE FUCKIN AWESOME FOR THE ROLE OF BRUNDLE
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Where there's a guy wandering around with gigantic fly head.
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Sep 24, 2009 9:59:31 AM CDT
I'd much rather see Cronenberg manage the Videodrome remake.
by royston lodge
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Brundle's DNA merges with the DNA from the fly that accidently was in the chamber. What of the DNA that was in every microbe on Brundle's body or in his gut? Still, I liked the movie. No need for a remake.
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I admire the film in a way, but seriously - fuck that gross ass flick.
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with Viggo Mortensen as Dr. Strange. Make it so.
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Unless the bugs were worked out, would everyone have to travel naked? Have you SEEN the people in the airport lately?
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Raimi has said so himself and so chooses not to put a name on it.
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Long Live ZZ top!
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It could be the film The Fly II wanted to be. I do have fond memories of The Fly II and there are some good ideas there, but ultimately it just fell flat in the end. With Cronenberg himself going back in with a fresh concept of someone continuing on with Brundle's research (be it on the teleportation or DNA splicing end) we could end up with a damn fine film in the end. No way does Cronenberg just remake this straight up. Nothing there makes sense. This has got to be something else entirely. Definitely within the same universe. But with a new story and characters.
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Sep 24, 2009 10:35:06 AM CDT
And if this IS a sequel with new ideas within the same universe?
by jacklucas
It will immediately shoot to the top of my list of upcoming must see shit along with Tron Legacy.
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That's what flies do for fuck's sake!
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Cecil B. Demille also remade his own "The Ten Commandments".
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by the elevator effect of the 80's. Good job Chris.
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but a remake seems totally unnecessary.
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ie: a continuation of Brundle's work, it could be really interesting...with other genetic-combo-hybrid possibilities...Cronenberg would have a field day with the material & we could get something interesting, alright, I've reversed my previous post, this remake could be good.
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I saw both last week. I was amazed at how horribly bad the the fly 2 was. I had seen it many years ago,but I must have blocked out the crapiness from my memory.. Another go,with CG Brundlefly would kick ass;)
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Aren't we all getting tired of the "now that I have CGI I can bring ANYTHING I ever wanted to the screen!" rhetoric. We've all been burned by that many times. Sometimes limitations are good. They force the brain to out think the problem, which often leads to very creative results. I shudder to think of what Brundlefly will look like with CG.
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and have it be about a world of dominant flies where a fly scientist gets changed into a human-fly hybrid. maybe not.
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Brundle should gene split with a pig. Then when body parts start to fall off he can fry them up for breakfast. YUM.
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This FLY remake was announced a while ago with another director attached, who was going to give The Fly the ability to actually fly. These deals fizzle left and right.
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...was the "other" victim of the experiment buzzing around crying, "Help meeee!" I know the sequel fused the two together instead of switching body parts, but I remember getting freaked by those scenes as a kid watching Creature Double Feature on Saturday afternoons.And the soundtrack should have included Gabriel's "Shock the Monkey."
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Good point. I got freaked by that too. Gene splicing is the ultimate nightmare.
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Sep 24, 2009 11:45:59 AM CDT
THE REAL HORROR IS THAT AETNA DENIES BRUNDLE'S CLAIM
by bringingsexyback
and he has to sell the machine to pay his medical bills.
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*BOOOOOOM*
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The practical fx in the original rank up there with AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON.
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They should just let Cronenberg take the reigns like he was originally going to do. Make a true Philip K. Dick Total Recall movie, with some ill body horror, obviously.
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There is not one scene, or one thing I'd change about that movie. Everything about it was classic.
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or "Orgy of the Blood Parasites"..remake this Cronenberg gem..this movie disturbed me a lot when it came out..even while masturbating to it..
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"Shivers" was another title for "It Came From Within".. they already mentioned it above..the "..meet my daughter.." scene..priceless!..excellent data for my spank bank
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.....Am I missing something here?
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Of all the pointless shit!
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a giant cgi flyswatter.thats why Croneberg wait 12 years for the technology to mature,in order to make his original vision true.
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like the play
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just wondering..
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That Cronenberg is out of ideas. That's really too fucking bad because he has a brilliant mind for cinema.Seriously, you guys would prefer this to david fincher doing it or Marcus Nispel? Give somebody else a shot at it! We've ALREADY SEWEN Cronenberg's Fly. It's amazing. I have it on Blu-ray. NEXT!
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Sep 24, 2009 1:24:51 PM CDT
David Cronenberg to direct Planet of the Apes: The Musical
by royston lodge
I hate every ape I see,
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I agree with The Amazing G.
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I'm interested in seeing exactly what Cronenberg horror + copious amounts of CGI looks like. Directors have remade their own great films with success before.
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It's called The Fly II with Eric Stoltz.
(P) Maybe DC just heard they were remaking and told them he'd do it. But now he's just going to dick around until it falls apart.
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The '86 version is just about perfect, for my tastes. And yet, to imagine what David would do now with current technology... still, why not leave well enough alone? But a straight-up sequel that ignores the Eric Stoltz abomination would be pretty bitchen. And Geena needs the work, so she could reprise, at least for a cameo...
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There are simply way too many other movies that I'd love to see given the Cronenberg touch rather than another version of The Fly. If the headline was Cronenberg To Remake [Enter 50s horror movie here], it would be a million different kinds of awesome.
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How many times does he need to remake The Fly before it stops being cool?How about Cronenberg's Harry Knowles? Now THAT would be some scary shit!
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I'd like to see Cronenberg direct one episode of NipTuck before it ends. Plastic surgery horror would seem right up his alley.
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Cant think of a single good reason for Cronenberg to go back to 'body horror' . . . other than we would like him to.
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But is there?
I mean the guy is apparently banging that Alex chick off Lost, he was baging Geena Davis at just the right time, he's been in I believe three of the top grossing movies of all time just by doing that oooh aaah hmmm shit that he does...
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That shit was awesome
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great films.check his filmography.
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some kind of bio-horror movie examining the reaction of humanity against the threat of a pandemic deadly virus.i know he has done a similar movie,but if he wants to be current,the swine flu is a good material for his new movie.hey he might even make the virus transform people into cannibals human pigs,just for some dark humor.
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Sep 24, 2009 3:33:47 PM CDT
"He just needs to CGI a modern hairstyle onto Geena Davis"
by nasty in the pasty
What?! Big, 80's hair looked AWESOME on girls. Seriously, that's the thing I miss most about that decade.
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Because you know, they look so alike!
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Will mention the fly remake and show the Obama clip.
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Do his version of The Straight Story. Cron man should take an old couple living in a small town and see what happens.
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Clearly not the same guy who decided to do CRASH and NAKED LUNCH. He seems to be jumping fully into the mainstream. So far, that's been fine, since I liked HISTORY and PROMISES. But his new Tom Cruise movie and now this is starting to make me long for the guy who was more provocative and cutting edge, and less...mainstream.
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David Cronenberg to remake Them!
David Cronenberg to remake This Island Earth
David Cronenberg to remake Eyes Without A Face
David Cronenberg to remake Day Of The Triffids
David Cronenberg to remake Robot Monster
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But honestly? As mind bending as his early films were, when viewing them more recently I am conscious of the fact they were shot on low budgets, with not always the best actors. Just saw Videodrome again after about a decade, and it does look a little dated in some spots. (Also just saw Dead Ringers again, when he had a bigger budget, and it's still perfect). So yeah, I would like to see Rabid, The Brood, Scanners, and a lot of C's other films remade, with better production values; if not directed by him, then at least overseen by him. The Fly to me is great, except that the make-up/prosthetics at the very end are kind of cheesy. The one bad note in an otherwise excellent film.
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Wtf? What's the point? How different can it be? Unless he completely reworks the story, an entire legion of man-fly's swamrming across the country, impregnating any girl that looks remotely like Geena Davis? What's the point of this?
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Funny Games! Yes, that was it. Good lad.
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Seriously, it's obvious they'll have the new Brundle think it's so awesome to have the super abilities, he'll go flying around the city trying to be the good guy - only to give up when the Fly Politics kick in.
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At a certain point, when you're on your second remake of a film, you just have to go with it. On remake #1, it can get your dander up. On remake #2, who cares?
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I agree with Quint, Brundlefly's request for mercy really made the ending for me. Why do they want to remake this? It was a great film, leave it be.
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IMMM CUUUMMMMINNNNG
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His films have always edgy, going in directions, you wouldn't expect the film to go. Scanners - head explosion, The Fly - abortion scene, Rabid - the needle in the armpit, Shivers - the bathtub scene and the kiss. Videodrome - the stomach slot, Dead Ringers - the finale, and other freaky stuff. His films delve into the deeper recesses of our mind. SHowing the brutality & depravity of the human condition. Watching his films are a different experience than the hacks promoting chop/slice slasher films. You care about the plight of his characters as he lets their perilous tale unfold.
Yes he can pull this off by going a different direction with the story. Not a la Lucas CGI! I am sure he will write a good twist in the story. -
when Jeremy Irons is getting ready to do surgery on that woman with that fucked tools and he's all woozy and shit scared the hell out of me!
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Now I want to see Speilberg go back and re-make JAWS! That would be the ultimate. Do It, Speilberg! Ya gotta do it!
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did The Fly. But thinking back..I can totally see it.
Check out my sci-fi comic competing for DC comics contract :)
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It's not just Hollywood that's run out of original ides,the same exotic virus has now spread to higher forms of life.
The next logical step will be for all American films to be remakes of 4 core films. -
Has CGI ever been used to make sustained shots of graphic body horror? Some latex, goo and a trip to the butcher has always been perfectly effective (The Fly, Hellraiser, Braindead, etc).
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That's why he's making all these bizarre decisions, and why he's one of the most consistent and interesting directors out there. He has not fallen into a rut like the rest of his 80's horror peers - although I'd even be wary of classing him as a horror director. He always tries new things and does unexpected stuff that people would not typically associate with him, although on closer inspection they completely are right down to the core. It always amazes me when people say that his latest films are 'mainstream' or not Cronenberg-like just because they don't conform to the body horror image he's known for. What he does is take these genres and subvert them, as well as exploring his recurring themes in more literal and realistic ways as opposed to the fantastical. And quite frankly, at this point, Cronenberg deciding to do his first big-budget studio movie with A-list stars (Matarese Circle) is the antithesis of going mainstream. This is not a director in his mid -30's going 'Hollywood' and being accused of 'selling out', but a 60 years plus director looking to make surprising and unexpected decisions, do things he's long held off from doing before now, and see how he can bring bring new things to the table in these supposedly 'commercial' genres and categories. The same goes for his first proposed sequel (Eastern Promises 2), his Fly opera, writing his first novel, presumably this re-imagining, and trying out different types of movies. Cronenberg's decisions to go 'mainstream' (whatever that means) are in fact the opposite of mainstream, although some of his more myopic fans probably want him to visit exploding heads and vomit in perpetuity. DC was never about that.Now, about this Fly re-make. Well, it's puzzling - mainly because DC HAS explicitly said he would never have any interest in re-imagining or re-making his own movies onscreen(and he even said this as recently as The Fly opera). I hope this isn't just a monetary decision (ditto Scott for Alien 0),and he actually has something interesting planned here that changed his mind. Given his track record and the evidence above, I'd be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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thats all
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Wasn't a reimagining of The Fly as a superhero movie mooted a while back?? Could this be the direction this remake is taking?
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Cronenberg has said in the past that The Fly was origionally supposed to actually fly in his version, but they scraped the idea because it seemed it would be too difficult and expensive to do convincingly
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Love his score, lots of layers to it.
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Digital, not exactly CGI has been used to simulate gunshot hits. A perfect example is Shaun Of The Dead. What I thought was on set effects, were digitally composited. Now as far as gore and body parts...practical always the best.
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made me touch myself inappropriately.
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Even Capra remade one of his best movies and sure the 2nd attempt went better than the original.
Of course '86 version was already a remake.
I don't think Cronenberg needed to remake this movie again but there is SOME chance it won't be bad. -
The exact scene where The Fly was supposed to take to the skies was where he leaves his apartment to kidnap Davis. He was originally supposed to fly there.
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Isn't Brundle's information already in the machine? That is how it is able to teleport right. Can't someone else activate the machine, and teleport Brundles information to the teleporter and voila, Brundle is back, so to speak. His code is al stored in the harddrive.
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Sep 25, 2009 3:57:53 PM CDT
This has absolutely nothing to do with "The Fly"...
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
...or Cronenberg, I'm just figuring that this TB would feature the best percentage of knowledgable movie geeks.
Settling a discussion here on short notice: Has Speilberg EVER made a movie that DIDN'T have a scene where a child gets threatened with grisly physical harm, just when Speilberg needed an instant emotional reaction out of the audience?
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I have to say that anyone who thinks the effects in Cronenbergs "The Fly" need improvement is nuts. Some of the best makeup effects ever. This is what's missing in today's CGI shit movies. I am especially sick of all these CGI blood sprays from gunshots. Give me some old-fashioned Savini-Dawn of the Dead style squibs. Cronenberg's film is one of the best horror movies ever and definitely one of the best remakes ever. Please don't fuck with it, or any of Dave's films for that matter. He is the man! Just had to say that for anyone who cares.
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That guy has more integrity than practically any other director working today. He is indeed a *Master*. Just have a quick look at his body of work. He has not compromised his vision for boxoffice - EVER.
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he's never made a bad film. not 1.
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... and so do: "Scanners","Videodrome", "The Fly", "Dead Ringers" "Existenz", "A History of Violence" and "Eastern Promises" - just off the top of my head...
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