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A Sherlock sequel underway? Elementary, my dear reader!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. So, those rumors about Brad Pitt being added into Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes flick as Moriarty were recently called into question. Maybe they stemmed from this...
According to the fine folks at The Hollywood Reporter Warners is already gearing up for a sequel and that Pitt is in talks currently to play Moriarty.
That could mean, if the deal is done in time, that they may whip up a shot of him for the first flick, but either way I'm pretty happy. I love the footage I've seen of Ritchie's movie, I love the taste of chemistry we get between Downey and Law and seeing Pitt as Moriarty would be pretty wicked, I think.
Warners is chaining the screenwriters of Justice League: Mortal, Kieran and Michele Mulroney, to the typewriter to see what they can come up with.
This shows a certain confidence on the part of the studio in Sherlock Holmes. They wouldn't be spending money on a sequel if they weren't sure the first was going to make them some money. What do you folks think?
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sounds good to me but ian macshane would be better no onw does bad better thab the brits,dare i suggest alan rickman
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Plus his turn in SNATCH was his career best next to Fight Club. All for it.
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but I still say Downey was miscast. Would have loved to have seen an unknown Brit in there; clearly they went for the Big Name.
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... has a fun little cameo at the end of the script. Which, by the way, is a truly great read. I had a blast.
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The studio will ruin this because they can't help themselves. Some things are classics and should just be left alone.
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I think Hugh Laurie would be good too
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I want a long life for the ironman and avengers franchices. I love Holmes, thou. "The Sign of the Four" was the first book I ever read, but this movie isn't getting me exited
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Maybe the movie will be ok, but that trailer just looks like a million other generic action movies, just with some Steampunk flair.
A Sherlock Holmes movie sounds great...I'm just not sure this is it. We shall see. -
are The Hangover and Sherlock Holmes?
who the shit would have predicted that one? -
bradd pittt.
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in the old Paget illustrations, he looked like Steve Buscemi aged 30 years, hardly Brad Pitt. maybe if they put the Benjamin Button makeup back on him...
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I will see this movie, but I have a terrible feeling about it.
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oh God that's going to be horrible. I really don't want to hear his attempt at an English accent. His irish one was fucking hilarious.
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I don't know how the guy does it, but he's in like only ONE movie a year but still ends up on EVERY single iota of news out there. Now with him being in this big franchise and we might as well expect a full tsunami of continuous Brad Pitt coverage all day everyday. Ugh.
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Heh. Sherlock Holmes. Get a clue.
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film comes out a little presumptuous. I don't like the "shirtless fistfight"(hasn't ritchie done this enough)direction this movie is going. It looks good visually but the plot will have everything to do with this movie. It is after all....a mystery.
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This doesn't look very good. That shouldn't be a surprise, considering the director. Guy, I like you. You scored a major coup for all MANkind by getting a ton of dough out of your ex-wife. You earned it. After all, it wasn't the 'Lucky Star' Madonna you were porking. More like a veiny, muscular Medusa. In a way, you're almost a hero. But, your movies blow dick. This one is going to probably continue that streak. Sherlock Holmes wasn't a fucking action hero. He was an intellectual. This shit just looks silly and wrong. It's going to be a bomb.
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... where he said he wasn't gonna make Sherlock all stale and familiar, but new and exciting and different. Are you kidding me? Chases, explosions, martial arts fights and penis jokes? This is new and different? Haven't we seen this movie about ten times a year for the last decade?
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Are you people on crack? The origional is going to sink like a turd in a fish bowl.
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Bring Holmes vs Dracula to the screen?
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Not karate. My informed sources tell me that "baritsu" is a martial art that is learned by drinking FAR too much coffee. (That, or it's a form of martial arts practiced solely against those who don't tip at Starbucks. Not entirely clear on it.)
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My wife wishes. She'd totally be "down" for that. ;)
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Does someone have to point out that Holmes is described as a capable boxer and martial artist in Doyle's original stories before it sinks in with you people?If I read one more post griping about Holmes and Watson being turned into action heroes I'm going to puke. Watson was a military man. He and Holmes actually carry firearms on occasion and Holmes can defend himself with his hands, his cane, a sword, whatever he has at hand.Go back and read the stories. Downey, Law and Ritchie all have. If this movie sucks it won't be because they haven't done their research.
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But the stories you mention, the action is much more low key and realistic based. the trailer show nothing but over the top stylized cartoon action. Which is fine for what it is, but I and apparently some others don't really think that is Holmes.
But, maybe that's just my Holmes, and people will embrace this version. I just think the character is classier than that. Though I suppose I have plenty of other versions I can go to for that style of Holmes. -
In which he is not that young.
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IMO, looks like Pirates of The Caribbean starring Sherlock Holmes. Too much over the top action, etc. But I still believe it could very well be excellent, and I'm sure Downey knows what hes up to. I was just very disappointed in the first trailer. Surprised a sequel is such a sure-thing already. Either way, more McAdams is exactly what the world needs right now. She's perfect.
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I hate your fucking movies, Mr Snatch. -
...that came up with this one?
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Ritchie's Sherlock looks like a frickin' blast. And anyone who bothers to hate Pitt has too much time on their hands.
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The "Gentleman's martial art". Fucking brutal stuff.
Aspects of it included real fist-fighting (the proper stuff, not the fancy dan Marquis of Queensbury style that was considered gentlemanly & fair), Batman style elbow knockouts & how to temporarily blind someone before smashing the fuck out of them with your cane. -
Sep 21, 2009 8:51:57 PM CDT
Wasn't Pitt meant to be doing a British accent in Troy?
by the dark shite
'Cause that was atrocious.
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I was going to point out your ignorance of the original stories, but someone else beat me to it.always best to check that you know something before you talk about it.
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I got nothin...
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...it will be fucking mustard.
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http://www. kungfucinema.com/images/6981-03.jpg
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Wasn't Chris Colombus circling that years ago? Do that film if it's still in a vault somewhere?
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Fuck tipping at Starbucks. Fuck Starbucks. Its a cup of coffee. I guess if your getting some overly produced soy based jizz beverage you might tip. Guy Ritchie tips at Starbucks.
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If, for once, studios would fucking concentrate on making the best single film possible for a fucking change before becoming fucking obsessed with fucking sequel potential. I'd also like to be a fairy Princess!!!
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Just a little joke there. A play on words with "barista" and "jujitsu." Starbucks leaped to mind as the most easily recognizable, across the board coffee shop. I could just have easily said "Won's" but who's gonna know that place in Wichita? Point taken, though. I got nothing but mad hate for Starbucks myself.
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I mean society says tip these people over here but not these people over here. Thats bullshit. You don't tip the people at McDonalds. Why not? They're serving you food? I will not play ball;)
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Almost took over the Big-E, yo!
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...that Sherlock Holmes was an action hero from ANY of the books. Can he defend himself if need-be, sure, but this movie looks like he's doing action stuff all the time. And more, in the trailer Watson complains about his lack of hygiene??? Holmes is very fastidious about his appearance and cleanliness in the books.
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But, I guess he's busy now. Downey's got the intelligence and the acting chops. I'm not sure I buy Pitt as a criminal mastermind.
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IGN has a story that apparently Sean Connery is being considered to return for Indy 5. Confusion reigns.
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Yeah, just make it a threesome between Watson, Holmes and Moriarty. Ya know, a threeway Brokeback Mountain. Isn't that the direction it's going anyway? This aint your grandaddy's' Sherlock Holmes, it's a piece of shit.
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is intelligent. How is Hollywood supposed to sell a movie based on logic and intellect and reasoning? *studio exec* "Where are the racist robots and boobies and blue alien things? No one will see this shit. I don't even know what they are saying. Er..ah..doi." *drools*
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George C. Scott s great.
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Sep 21, 2009 11:25:35 PM CDT
What about when Holmes and Moriarty traveled to the present?
by beane2099
It stared David Warner and Malcolm McDowell. Don't remember who played who. Anyways, if you want Sherlock Holmes as seen in the good Sir Arthur's books, make your own damn movie. Last time I checked no one was clamoring for a Holmes movie in the first place, so if Ritchie and crew wanna bust out their version, I say let 'em have at it. Besides, if I can't have a decent 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea movie except for the 50+ year old one made by Disney, then Holmes fans can't have their movie either. Same goes to you Quatermain fans. What, Pride and Prejudice and Gone with the Wind fans are the only ones that get a definitive version of their beloved tome?!
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Wait and see, but I'm right about this.
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and If wrong you do know you will be made to look a fool by everyone here for your entire time here right? Going into hding under a new name won't help either. We WILL find you! Films come and go, but the talkbackers remain consistant and never forget a stupid boast.
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Sep 22, 2009 1:24:52 AM CDT
RE: What about when Holmes and Moriarty traveled to the present?
by the phantom blot
Beane, are you thinking about "Time After Time" from 1979? It wasn't Holmes and Moriarty in that story--it was H.G. Wells and Jack the Ripper.
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It's just a rumor. 100 bucks says Brad Pitt thinks Sherlock Holmes is a fucking restaurant.
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Hah, fooled you.
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No depth to character or performance. Just a bad growling accent and an attitude. The scene where he's pretending to be Italian, neither he nor his character are even trying.
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So: you have something as nuanced as Sherlock Holmes, and you entrust it to a lughead like gut Ritchie? Are you fucking insane? Giving Batman to Nolan, that's smart. Getting Cuaron to save your Potter franchise, that's smart. But getting someone who has, from Lock, Stock to whatever that latest one was called, consistently delivered inauthentic East End types, and who is now going to deliver inauthentic East End types from 100 years ago - that's stupid. I'm reaching for my Jeremy Brett boxed set...
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Is there any reason Guy Richie deserves ANY kind of respect right now? If the movie really is a hilarious and exciting thriller with great chemistry then I'll eat my words, but please he has NEVER made a classic movie. His first two were watchable enough Tarantino rip-offs, THAT'S IT! Fuck!
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what JJ Abrams Star Trek is for the TOS star trek?
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Rember that cartoon movie from disney? the villain was voiced by Vincent Price,and for a disney cartoon movie it was pretty dark,it had a death,even a cabaret dance.
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He would had to add some kilos to him... or wear a fat suit.
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It's strange all this bunesiness of sequels to movies that have not been released yet. I guess the studios, hoping the movie will be sucessful, want to strike the iron while it's still hot.And then there's the embaracing flip-side. I'm reminded of the plans to make a Van Helsing trilogy, and to alos make a spin-off TV show, the studio was super-optimistic and could not shut up about their new franchise... and then the movie flops miserably. And all talks of sequels and whatnot looked positively ridiculous. I wonder if this will also happen to Sherlock Holmes.
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to play Moriarty. Perfect casting choice, Pitt's well known for his refined British acting.
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Sep 22, 2009 9:50:29 AM CDT
"if they weren't sure the first was going to make them some mone
by the_ad_wizard_who_came_up_with_this_one
Yeah, right. Because Hollywood executives have great instinct and are hardly ever wrong.
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What real action scenes does the trailer show? Holmes boxing (fits the books), diving out a window (okay, a little over the top maybe), and the hammer thing. Nothing but editing makes this look like an action movie. That said -- no on Pitt. Get Tim Roth.
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Sep 22, 2009 10:44:26 AM CDT
colin farrell,simon pegg,or hugh laurie would all be better.
by snikkar124
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how many brilliant masters-of-disguise who turn to drugs when they aren't working enough are there?
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Boat chase; gun fight; creepy twins; evil pygmy cannibal; one-legged jewel thief, murderer, and conspirator. That's all in "The Sign of Four". Hell, the cinematic Bond may be closer to the literary Holmes than to the literary Bond.
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This new Sherlock Holmes movie WILL BE for the classic character what Jar Jar Abrams movie was to classic ST, aka, a complete dumbing down for the sake of explosions. Southafricanguy read the script and he told me that he figured out the mystery before Holmes. That is something very wrong right there.
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We were all waiting for this....right?
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However enjoyable Leathal Weapon is, when one thinks of a making a Sherlock Holmes movie that is not the first thing that comes to mind to be used as an inspiration. LW is an action movie, and i don't see how you can fit in that with the tales of a gentleman detective who resolved the crime mysteries of the english victorian aristocracy. The 7 Per Cent Solution this aint. And i'm the guy who liked Revolver, for christ's sake!
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Once you read a few of the Holmes stories, you frequently can figure them out before Holmes. And Holmes is not a "gentleman" detective. He's an eccentric recluse who self-medicates when his mind is understimulated.
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It cannot get better than this. If I were gay, I'd have a nonstop hard-on for the whole length of the movie.
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...for the Sherlock Holmes fan. It may turn into a good movie, but it won't truly capture the feel of the great detective from the books, previous movie incarnation, or even the Great Mouse Detective!
Even Young Sherlock Holmes at least had a basic following of the character being true to form. And introducing Moriarty as a nemesis in that movie was awesome (only known if you sat through the credits). I think this Pitt is a bad idea for Moriarty. He doesn't come across as a pure genius who could be as smart as or smarter than Holmes. He's not old enough without makeup. And honestly, everything they have already changed has made me not too interested...this is the icing on the cake. -
I am a fan. Nothing I've seen in the trailers so far contradicts what I've read in the stories. A different feel, sure, but nothing contradictory. I haven't seen YSH, but I understand Watson is in it? That's not true to the books at all.
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just because he's a drug addicted eccentric recluse doesn't mean he isn't still a "gentleman" detective. And did they choose Downey for another role because of his personal life and association with alcohol and drug addiction?
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I don't know why they cast him. Honestly, I'm not thrilled with it, but I'm optimistic. Jude Law, yeah, I like that. But as for the "gentleman" label, Holmes is really kind of an arrogant ass. Just a charismatic one.
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Sherlock Holmes is a gentleman. there's more a gentleman then to go to aristocratic partie,s have lots of cash and be a main character in a Jane Austen novel.And no, you cannot know the solution to a mystery of a sherlock holmes story because Conan O'Doyle had this particularity in that he always omited until the last moment a most crucial elements that without it the mystery had no logical solution, and which Holmes would expose and exposite by the end of the story.The problem with the movie, as according to our friend southafricanguy, is that the script IS DUMB. The story is dumb, the mystery is easily guessed before you hit the climax, and because the mystery is dumb and so is the story, it means Sherlock will look dumb because he can not solve a mystery before the audiences can. and that's dumb. Conan O' Doyle at least had the right technique to prevent that, the movie hasn't.More and more this movie loooks like a victorian Leathal Weapon, with the name of sherlock holmes added on. Frankly, the only thing i find of interest in this movie is Jude Law as Doctor Watson, seems like the only thing the movie did right, as far i can tell. And the trailer is horrible beyond description.
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to doubt that is to know little to nothing of victorian england of the 19th century. No nobleman or member of the high society would go to him or ask his help if he wasn't one. There's no doubt about that. It doesn't matter is holmes was a cocaine junkie, or if he was a pederast or whatever other vices. One is a gentleman because of his social status in a society. sometimes a gentleman wasn't even rich, but if he had a name, or could trace back his family to some notable figure of the past, he would be a gentleman, and therefore, one of the "best" of society.Sherlock Holmes IS A GENTLEMAN. And so is doctor Watson, on account of him being both a medic and a retired army medical officer on Her Majesty's Army. An officer and a gentleman, remember?
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Only today we would classify Holmes frequent intake of cocaine (injected) as a drug addiction. Back in the day when the sherlock holmes stories were writen, and at the time when the stories are set, cocaine was considered harmless. not only harmless, but extremely helpful and curative. cocaine was considered back then a panaceia, a drug to cure all sickness. It was specially appreciated as a revitalizing cure for fatigue. Coca-Cola started as a revitalizing tonic drink, the "Coca" of the name refers to cocaine. It was later replaced with cafeine when it was later discovered the addictive and health destructive nature of cocaine (one of the main discovered of that was Sigmund Freud himself, who experiement cocaine on himself and developed an addiciton for the rest of his life which he tried to contra-act on by smoking very strong cigars... which later gave him palate cancer.)
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By the definition you give? And yes, Doyle usually holds back vital info. But some *can* be solved. I grant that it may be more a matter of anticipating Doyle than outthinking Holmes.
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The thing is, the Sherlock holmes as writen and as portaited until now is a gentleman detective. In Guy Ritchie's movie, looks like they blue-coloured Holmes. Because it makes me look more like a Leathal Weapon character, i guess.
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