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A film called ROMP!!!
Well folks, Harry here and man this sounds like one sick and twisted trip down the demented road of life. Personally I'm a bit of a fan of this type of sick storytelling. To me it illustrates a world I'm so far away from, but am morbidly curious about. Personally I'd like to see this one get made. How about you folks?
Harry, Marquis de Sade here with a bit of news for ya. I've been hearing little bits of buzz here and there about a script called ROMP that apparently is floating around the wonderful world of studios and... Well, I figured it's the sort of sick shit you might just turn a curious ear to hearing about.
"Romp"
The basic premise of the story is about two life long best friends who have
not had it easy. As a result of their traumatic childhood, these two men are
fucked in the head. Their ailments are too many to count. However, somehow
they fell through the cracks.
They are petty thieves. Drug addicts. They collect unemployment as well as
welfare. They live together with one of the men's sister who is mentally
retarded. They use her as their sex slave.
Like I said, they're fucked in the head.
Then, things get worse. After 8 months, they finally realize that the
retarded sister is pregnant. They have no idea what to do. Take her to
abortion clinic? She's eight months pregnant not to mention the fact she's
mentally retarded! It's not an option.
Enter their friend. He too is a drug addict. The difference? He went to
medical school. Or so they think. In reality, he once had a roommate who
went to medical school and he "liked to look at his books." Unfortunately,
they don't find out until too late. With a bottle of gin and a broken
clothes hanger, he does the deed...but somehow ends up killing her.
I don't wanna give away the whole movie but to sum up the rest, hilarity
ensues!
Yes, this film is a dark comedy. That, along with the elements of rape,
incest, and drug use are why the majors won't touch it.
So I was just wondering if this is the sort of nervy projects that you and your readers are interested in hearing about. The films too dark for the studios to dare produce. I like the premise, but then I'm a sick fucko. How about you, do you like it Har?
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Aug 23, 1999 1:30:58 AM CDT
If they really make this into a movie, they are fucked in the he
by ellington
Man, this is one sick story. Those guys fuck eachother in the head and that sister gets fucked too. Everybody is fucked up. What kind of unclefucker is going to direct this piece of crap ????? I'm not spending my money (earned by fucking my boss) on this bullshit.
For anyone who gives a fuck: I'm first....... -
Hopefully I'm leaving my comments early enough stop the juveniles among us from crowing "me first!" The premise sounds good to me, Harry, but I'm also a sick fuck. Get Gary Oldman to star as one of the brothers, and Sissy Spacek as the sister. That would be grand casting. I doubt any of the majors will touch it, though.
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Is this 'story' from the Marquis a reputable source, Harry?
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Honestly, now, sick storylines are good, but there IS a line drawn in the concrete, and it has been crossed too many times. I honestly cannot stand movies that make fun of people with ailments (yah, I have one too for not being able to spell) that they have no control over. Ok, so I laughed at some scenes in There's Something About Mary. I always get a good hearty giggle out of Chunk doing the Truffle Shuffle. But this is S I C K. I guess I really don't have much more to say other than bad stuff, so I'll leave it at that. Sick. And for the record, I thought that Very Bad Things was hysterical. But that's another story.
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I won't say there is NO way it could be done well, but I think it might be bad taste overkill. Maybe take out the disabled part, and you could do it. But right now, in the present political climate, this movie doesn't have a prayer. It's an interesting, if vulgar, idea, though.
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...a comedy about Columbine?
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Only the Marquis de Sade could have said that about the premise for this film.
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Hey Harry, since you seem to be
in the business of promoting
unsellable scripts, maybe you
could take a look at mine.
Seriously... how do I know that
ROMP wasn't written by the Marquis
himself, or one of his buddies,
and they're trying to create a
buzz for it? What distinguishes
this script from the other tens
of thousands of spec screenplays
that wannabe screenwriters puke
onto Hollywood? Why promote this
one, and not mine? :-) -
I too am a sick fuck when it comes to movies, but as someone said before, this movie takes it too far. I laughed my ass off during Very Bad Things but that movie had nothing as risque as incest and abortion. I just cannot see even myself laughing at that kind of stuff. Maybe played straight this film would be better but I would still probably stay away, as would most of the general public. I hope this along with The Sky Is Falling are movies that will definetly never be made.
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Nuff' said.
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Harry, please put in the smallest effort to not hand out the keys to the front gate to every fucking jack-ass who wants to draw attention to the worthless piece of shit they and a buddy spent three days writing. It hard enough scrolling past talk backers who claim to be apiring filmmakers, let alone having to read the selp-promoting hype of some yard-ape-yahoo presented as a scoop. "Yeah have ya heard the buzz about that script MY NUTZ ON YOUR CHIN..." Its far more annoying than wondering if you've sold out or not. ROMP...lame. Columbine Musical Death Comedy...funny and therapeutic!
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I give thumbs up to retarded sex objects but I don't believe this crap.
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Well, lemmee say this. It's all a matter of tone and execution -- a bad-sounding story can be made very palatable with the right approach. On the whole, though, I think this is one of those projects best left on the shelf. And not because of the subject matter per se, but because there is a sick sort of hipness among the filmmakers who do this kind of stuff now. Back when taboo subject matter was only handled by people doing underground film that got no distribution at all (and certainly not the kind of coverage that a festival like Sun/SlamDance could provide), there was at least a grubby sort of honesty in seeing distasteful subjects handled onscreen. And some of those movies were downright brilliant, too: SWEET SWEETBACK'S BAADASSSSS SONG comes to mind. But this is the Nineties, not the Sixties or the Seventies. TV is routinely more daring than Hollywood was 30 years ago. This sort of thing isn't particularly daring anymore... nor is it all that interesting. http://www.thegline.com
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Aug 23, 1999 12:48:11 PM CDT
Good God, what the hell is this! Is this what passes for entert
by keeper
I have nothing against movies staying true to life and depicting suffering without waxing on its supple cruelties but this is atrocious. Maybe there is some element this Marqui fellow neglected to mention that somehow redeems this proposal but, Jesus... this sounds like another Boxing Helena waiting to happen or worse. And, yes, like others have mentioned, "hilarity ensues"? What exactly is that supposed to mean? I could maybe see this playing the Nazi/Skinhead circuit that habitually masturbates at images of little girls being raped and Sodomized by 'manly Arrian' bikers or something. Harry, honestly, you goofed on this one even for a self confessed lover of masochist cinema. All's forgiven. Just don't do it again please.
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It certainly does not sound promising, but I guess the success of any movie depends on how it's done. Imagine how The Big Lebowski sounded on paper: "Old hippie hangs out with his friends and bowls. His carpet gets urinated upon. Hilarity ensues." Not very promising, yet the movie is awesome. Done right, it might be watchable.
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Why not make it even more sick and schock all movie-goers to kingdom come?
Make the most disgusting, stomach-wrenching, sick, tasteless black comedy imaginable so that no film maker ever will be able to make something worse.
Then there will be no need to make films like this anymore. People will think anything is as nice and pretty as the Lion King in comparison. -
Pardon me for asking... but isn't there a sex scene in "Lion King"? Well, that's what it looked like from where I was sitting. As for "Romp"... I don't think there's any way this can be a comedy, and I hope to hell no one makes it because it sounds really, really nasty. Not that I hate nasty, but too much of anything is bad.
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i mean it - this sounds so goddamn harmony korine i can't believe it. why would anyone want to watch this? if you're gonna 'push the envelope' (and i'm getting a little jack of that term), at least have some kind of point to make. 'very bad things' was kinda rank, but it occasionally said something about male powerlessness and frustration in the face of female guile. 'south park' rocked because it had something to say about responsibility for your words and actions. but just reading this synopsis of 'romp' sounds like i've been approached on the street by some scummy fucker offering me a snuff movie. five-tone off to take a much-needed shower now. harry, no more shite from the marquis de sade...this person's obviously a goddamn lowlife.
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--what's the point? Why should I see this? I don't get off on the activities described. Odds are I'm not going to learn anything I really WANTED to learn. I mean, I realize I'm pre-judging this on very little information (The Big Lebowski example was a good one!), but I'm asking this as a larger question - WHY? Why this? Why War Zone? Actually War Zone seemed to have more going for it....
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Okay, some of you have said that Harry got duped into publishing this "scoop". But I don't think Harry is that stupid. It's not remotely newsworthy, any idiot can see that. The script apparently has not even been optioned yet, and if it's half as bad as it sounds, it never will be. So why would Harry report on this? My suspicion is that he knows the author personally, and is doing him a favor. Read Harry's comments again, keeping this possibility in mind. No, I can't prove it (because they conveniently neglected to mention the author of this gem). I don't want to think that it is true. But if you've learned anything, Harry, haven't you learned that even the slightest *hint* of impropriety is enough to bring your critics down on you like a pack of wild dogs? What's up?
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A few years back I saw "Salo" which had just had its ban lifted in this country. Like most people I was curious. For those who don't know it is a film by Pasolini based on de Sade's 'One Hundred Days of Sodom'. Well, it was excrutiatingly dull. Of course any half-arsed critic could run some sort of argument about how it shows the dehumanising of the modern world, could talk about it's excesses in the context of its anti-Nazi, anti-Fascist sympathies. Or side with Barthes, who didn't seem knocked out by the flick, who said it was worthy because the film didn't allow us to redeem ourselves. You could talk about the lack of titillation in the sex scenes and how this ties in with the thematic bleakness and reflects the distance of the captors and captured, film and audience. Blah blah blah. The fact is it was still dull, its points made in the first few minutes. After that it was just 'gosh, let's eat poo!'. Still, most sick flicks don't have the redeeming values of sub-text. Most of them don't even have a particularly good text. Sick flicks are rarely ever interesting and pretty much never funny. This trash mentioned here sounds pointless and trivial. It certainly isn't off the wall in the same way as a Tromo film and it doesn't appear to have any socially redeeming value like 'The War Zone'. It just seems to be sad 'ooooh, aren't we naughty!' schoolboy titillation that passes itself off as radical and anti-authoritarian. Mistakenly, of course, because it believes that by shocking people it is clearly saying a big Up Yours to The Man. It's not - it will be as blindingly dull as 'Salo' and a hundred times less worthy. I shudder to think what some 'I'm outrageous' hack will foist on us next - couple perform unnatural acts on daughters, hitchikers, streetkidss - kill them and bury them in the backyard - hilarity ensues (The Fred and Rosemary West Story)? As they say, it's not big and it's not funny. And, yes, I agree it is lame pitch of a justifiably rejected shite script. Take this sad crap out of here and bury it.
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I say they cast Pauly Shore along side Bobcat Goldwaith, and for the pregnant retard we'll have that dude from "Life Goes On." Now that would would be a film worth seeing! A film with those elements might be better than "Ernest Goes to Jail," which is easily a classic that stands on its own.
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Something like ROMP won't last long - Look at the movie "Crash" - People tried to hype it, and it did just the opposite - It crashed. For the simple reason that it didn't meld with what people want.
Whilst people claim to be "sick fucks", the normals will always have the final say - It might start off on a high, but after every anti-abortionist and every carer and every movie-rater has complained about this film, it'll crumble.
ROMP my ass - It'll be a catastrophy.
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I'm not sure what Shardik is trying to claim here, but it sounds like he is suggesting that the premise for this film is interesting and subversive and that all such films are going to be 'destroyed' by conservative, reactionary right-wingers : "after every anti-abortionist and every carer and every movie-rater has complained about this film, it'll crumble." Anyone with half an ounce of sense would see that there is a gulf of difference between, on the one hand, happily off-kilter humour of the type the Farelly brothers specialise in or a film that explores the darker resonances of the human soul like 'Crash', and a (highly unlikely) film that wilfully tries to be 'sick' in order to gain a few credibility points and shock value. ('Oooh', they squeal, 'look some TV Minister has said that our film is the work of the very devil himself. We have clearly touched a nerve in the conservative consciousness!' - I don't think.) It's easy to score a few cool as points off of the moral majority, but a lot harder to make something that doesn't flirt with the drek of the human mind just for the supposed outrageousness of it. 'Crash' was an attempt to look at the links between technology, violence and sexuality. It was about making a film that, through its own narrative, questioned the idea of a lack of moral stance. 'Blue Velvet', another film that had right-wingers everywhere talking about the possible collapse of the Western civilisation, was a strikingly beautiful film that, amongst other things, looked at what is and is not considered facile and trite by pitting a conventional town and a conventional narrative against a world where those narratives have no meaning. And so on. Cartoons like 'South Park' and 'Ren and Stimpy' are often genuinely funny, subversive and - yeah, I'll say it - charming in a skewed kind of way. 'Romp' (or Please Buy My Script Oh Hollywood Sir AKA The Kids'll Go For Anything That Pisses Off Their Folks - Suckers!), sounds devoid of anything vaguely redeeming except cheap sensationalism to get your hard earned bucks. Inotherwords, I guess, perfect Hollywood material and, therefore, about as subversive as Mills and Boon. The only problem would be whether McDonalds would distribute the action figures.
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Although I would bet Mr.Lucas would gladly provide the capital in order to market the products. Anything for a buck for him. To comment on the premise though, it sounds at best ridiculous, and at worst, well........ridiculous. Cmon. I've been practically raised on the horror genre and even THIS sounds way out of line to me. In fact, it doesn't seem funny at all, but more of a putdown on the mentally retarded. It's not sick at all Harry. It's cold.
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Sorry Jbreen, but it looks like you mis-understood what I was trying to get across - However, I'm not going to argue it - It's pretty clear that you and I are on different levels.
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Oh dear, it looks like I've offended Shardik. Normally I wouldn't bother to reply, but I am in a crapper of a mood and Shardik getting all precious about my simply suggesting his/her post was a tad unclear is so pathetic as to warrant a rambling reply. Especially the different levels comment (obviously I am meant to assume S is possessed of a vastly superior intellect by which I am a tawdry gnat in comparison. Either that or S assumes we both live in the same apartment building). So lets get picky. The bulk of my post wasn't really about his/her comments but that which was simply made the point that Shardik's post was unclear in its intention. First of all it seemed S was suggesting that films that aren't what the mass want ultimately fail no matter how much hype they have. ('Crash'...crashed. For the simple reason that it didn't meld with what people want.') Fine and fairly clear I think. A dubious argument, though. After all the Hollywood system prides itself on not just predicting trends but creating them - which may or may not be true - and you do have the occasional sleeper hits or off-the-wall hits like BWP. It is hard to claim that such films are what people 'want'. Next up S writes: 'Whilst people claim to be "sick fucks", the normals will always have the final say'. Not a particularly clear sentence, but is sounds like S is either suggesting that: people only 'claim' to be 'sick fucks' but are not. Therefore, normality is the, erm, norm, or; S is suggesting that 'the normals' have the final say over 'sick fuck's' because of some unspecified reason. (what? They are in power? Because 'the normals' are the general populace?) Actually, one main problem - and possibly the cause of my 'misunderstanding' - is that it is hard to know exactly what value judgements are running through this post. It does sound like S has a dim view of 'the normals' (itself a slightly sneering term) especially when he seems to define 'the normals' as essentially the conservative or right-wing elements in society -
'anti-abortionists', 'carers' (not sure what this means - is this a US term for social workers? babysitters? teachers? A generic term for all of these and more?) and 'movie-raters' who, according to S, will automatically complain about this film. I guess the 'sick fucks' are some kind of left-wing/alternative population since S has placed them in opposition to 'the normals'. If this isn't the case how is S defining 'the normals' and by what value system? Hopefully it is not so simplistic as 'conservative' versus 'non-conservative'. Ah well... I would like to think that S is trying to say that 'Romp' will fail because it is a piece of shite that no-one in their right mind would really be interested in and, therefore, one any studio would reject outright. But S's post creates sentences suggesting that normality is equated with conservative values. S then appears to suggest that a film like Romp would fail because of people with values like these. To me this sounded like S is suggesting that 'Romp' is a possibly worthy alterna-film that will be crushed by such elements. Whether S thinks that this is a bad thing is decidedly unclear. Unless of course, S really likes anti-abortionists etc., in which case S is saying 'go for it'. Hard to know, really... As for that 'levels' comment - what a stinger! - I normally wouldn't allow myself to stoop to such depths, but ... hey, anytime you want to go on discussing your comments, come up and see me. Hehehehe...
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Jbreen - You just couldn't help yourself, could you mate. It's rather obvious you have some deep seated issues, because the simple comment I made caused a rather interesting, long, response from yourself. I also think it's rather funny how you try to link our arguement to a corrupt political situation - Using the terms "Righ-Wing" and "Left-Wing".
Ah Jbreen - Thanks for the laughs - You're taking it all too seriously.
In fact - In the comment "On different levels" I was actually suggesting that YOU were above ME - But obviously that inferiority complex of yours kicked in to wreak havoc, once again.
Seeya' Round. -
Well, never mind the Pollocks - here's the six pastels...Arf! What a lark this talk back thing can be sometimes. My Great Bud Shardik seems to think I have deep-seated issues - well, I probably do. So here, S, is another piece of long malarkey to give you a coupla big belly shakes. Sometimes I get a lot of pleasure from (1)shooting my mouth off and (2)shooting the breeze. Just because someone ain't posting something that is 'ooh grab that needle and thread I'm about to split my sides laughing' funny doesn't mean that someone's not having fun. Farting around in this here Talkback thing is a nice way of clarifying ideas or, sometimes, muddying your own waters. And I make no apologies for being a waffler - I said outright that I was in a crapper of a mood and felt like letting off a bit of steam and, yeah, sometimes I can't help myself. I like getting feedback, hearing new ideas blah blah blah... Sometimes I feel like being serious, other times not, sometimes brief, sometimes a pain the arse long winded prat, sometimes political, sometimes hopelessly un pc - I would be amazed if you're any different and it's called being human. And you, you big grumpy bear you, obviously couldn't help yourself about getting the last word in (since you came back some time later to check on this mesage thread!). Well, Me too (hehehe...) PS I did have 'inferiority complex' but a bit of cream every night soon cleared that up.
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