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‘This Will Only Take A Moment And It Will Not Be Repeated!!’ Sunday Brings MAD MEN 3.6!!

Published at:  Sep 20, 2009 6:43:12 AM CDT

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I am – Hercules!!


Last week Sally’s teacher drunk-dialed Don, Duck Phillips tried to lure Pete and Peggy to Grey, Peggy asked for more money, Pete quizzed elevator operator Hollis on Negro buying habits and Betty gave birth to Eugene Scott Draper.

During the middle of first scene with Don, Betty and the teacher, there was a bizarre insert, like something out of “The Shining,” of young Sally smearing what looked blood across one cheek. Did it come from another dustup Sally was undertaking? Was it menstrual? When AMC posted the same scene online prior to the episode’s broadcast, it did NOT contain Sally’s smearing. The very definition of most passing strange.

One wonders also why Dennis, the Sing Sing correctional officer who shared a drink with Don in the waiting room, avoided Don’s gaze in the hospital corridor afterwards.

Also? Klansman Bryan De La Beckwith murdered civil rights activist (the one depicted keeping company with Betty’s mom and blood-mopping dad) on June 12, 1963. Is Sally in summer school?

This show’s most fearsome weapon remains its unpredictability. Perhaps the Emmys will run long tonight so we’ll still be able to tune over to CBS after tonight’s episode concludes to see Matthew Weiner pick up the show’s second outstanding-drama Emmy.

Titles and plotlines for tonight’s episode and those beyond:

3.6 "Guy Walks Into An Advertising Agency"
Sterling Cooper receives a surprise visit; Sally is spooked; and Joan gets some unexpected news.


3.7 "Seven Twenty Three"
Betty tries her hand at politics; Don thinks about the future; and Peggy receives a luxurious gift.


3.8 "Summer Vacation"
Don and Betty go on a business trip. Pete helps a neighbor.


3.9 "Wee Small Hours"
Don and Sal have trouble giving the clients what they want. Betty hosts a fundraiser.


3.10 "The Color Blue"
The firm celebrates a milestone. Peggy and Paul compete on an account.


3.11 "The Gypsy and the Hobo"
A former client returns; Betty goes on a trip with the kids; and Joan and Greg plan for their future.


3.12 "The Greatest Generation"


3.13 "The Silo"


10 p.m. Sunday. AMC.





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    Readers Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 6:44:36 AM CDT

    First

    by charlygordon11

  • Sep 20, 2009 6:56:43 AM CDT

    This season

    by nudeandaroused

    Has been very interesting and strong. There are questions, but I am sure that they will be answered, they always are.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 7:32:29 AM CDT

    June 12th

    by ace ny

    In NY kids could still be in school. I think they get out around the third week of June.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 8:36:21 AM CDT

    More Interested in The Guard Ignoring Don

    by crow3711

    What was that all about? I think someone last week mentioned they noticed the wife wasn't holding a baby in her wheelchair...maybe something happened to the baby, ie it didn't all turn out well like Don said, and he was, obviously, angry. I might have to rewatch that part, but still, it was a very intriguing and puzzling moment. And once again, Don opens up a bit more to a complete stranger than his own family. I fucking love that.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 8:40:04 AM CDT

    She Wasn't Holding A Baby, but...

    by crow3711

    But it's also not really indicated in any way that it's abnormal or that something was wrong. The wife had sort of a blank look on her face, but she's just an extra basically, I doubt they told her much. It just seems so odd to not even hint at what might have been the problem.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 8:43:02 AM CDT

    The guard averted his eyes because

    by throwmetheidol

    Once the emotion of the previous day had passed he realized he's just a lowly prison guard and Don is a big shot and no longer felt comfortable talking to him so easily. The theme of last week's episode was social class.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 8:46:05 AM CDT

    Did summer break begin earlier back in the 60's?

    by yeti

    Now it's usually the week of the 21st.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 9:08:05 AM CDT

    Thank You ThrowMeTheIdol

    by crow3711

    Obviously that connection should have been made thematically by me, just putting 2 and 2 together. Thanks for the insight. I feel like a schmuck.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 10:12:03 AM CDT

    If that were the meaning behind the averted gaze

    by greggers

    I think it could have been communicated more effectively, or the at least it could have been teed up a little better. Too many people seem to be wondering about it, so if it all boils down to *reverting to class categories in the light of day*, I question the storytelling.
    Plus, there seemed to be a little hostility in the snub. It seemed less like "I don't see you" and more like "You son of a bitch." I mean okay buddy, you and Don might come from different worlds, but jeez, the cold shoulder seems a little much.
    Short of my wild, wild baby switch extrapolation from last week, I think the guard was as much embarrased by his histrionics in the waiting room as reverting to class categories.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 10:35:42 AM CDT

    Disappointing season so far...

    by jackislost

    The last episode was especially weak. Hopefully they can turn this around...

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 10:58:17 AM CDT

    As a NY teacher and former student

    by mrd

    I have never gotten out of school earlier than June 22nd. Admittedly I started attending school as a student in Sept, 1975, so it may be that something changed in that 12 years, but I think you're reading a bit much into this, Herc.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 11:17:03 AM CDT

    Sorry, we will be watching the game.

    by dkev00

    Go Cowboys!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 11:41:52 AM CDT

    school year

    by dradis contact

    schools are still on in early June; it's not college

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 12:21:37 PM CDT

    The school year in suburban NY

    by voice o. reason

    Late June before summer break? Really??? Yikes. We go middle of August-end of May.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 1:21:03 PM CDT

    the hospital scene

    by brabon300

    i thought that the reason the guard wouldnt look at don, was because he had shown emotion, and made a promise (i will be a better man) that he knew he couldnt keep although only 40 years ago, men werent supposed to show emotion...for christ sakes, men werent allowed in the delivery roomthat whole scene with the kids and don waving up to the window also struck me as i remember when my mom delivered and we werent allowed to see her and the new baby, till she came home i loved the epi,because it answered questions, like where is duck it also showed pete to be ahead of his time, knowing full well that for companies to succeed, they would have to start advertising to specific racial groups how clueless were the admiral guys? peggy voicing what really has become the american dream was truly brilliant and is don hot for teacher?

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  • Sep 20, 2009 2:12:17 PM CDT

    Don is totally hot for teacher

    by greggers

    The phone call with the teacher was in the promo for this week, so I doubt we've seen the last of that. And I'm disappointed. I thought the episode where she was dancing in the grass seemed to give her an idealized, almost symbolic meaning for Don, something more than sexual/romantic. So much for that.

    The question now is, is there anyone Don *won't* bang?

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  • Sep 20, 2009 2:15:54 PM CDT

    brabon300

    by mr dark

    you are one observent person good call on all points.. I remember having to see my little sister from the window just as in the show and she was born in 63..I
    think this show nails everything
    just right form an era I remember
    very well..missle crisis , duck and cover, Kennedy, its all there and represented as was..and the drinking and smoking well thats just how I remember it..

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  • Sep 20, 2009 4:03:03 PM CDT

    Don won't bang fuggos

    by xiphos_2

    but that is about it.Pete is probably the most forward, strategic thinker that Sterling/Cooper has. Even more so then Don who's strength lies in the art and words but that's about it. I find Pete interesting since on the surface he seems dopey and locked into keeping up appeareances and his blue blood heritage, but he really has his his eyes locked on the future. He's shown it over and over again and Sterling/Cooper would be well advised to hear him out, the firm would be better placed to capitalize on the coming change to society.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 4:41:17 PM CDT

    Hate to be nitpicker but...

    by byshop

    Medgar Evers was murdered by Byron De La Beckwith, not Bryan De La Beckwith. Bryan is actually a pretty cool guy who, to my knowledge, has never killed anyone.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 5:15:13 PM CDT

    The prison guard had an intimate moment with Don.

    by nopix

    He really let his guard down, no pun intended, and revealed a lot of emotion. And in the end it was all bullshit...after he sobered up the reality of the situation sunk in....FATHERHOOD SUCKS!!

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  • Sep 20, 2009 5:53:13 PM CDT

    Last episode was creepy

    by takingscorpioscalls

    And Sally being SPOOKED today? what is this shining seriously

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  • Sep 20, 2009 6:02:59 PM CDT

    Xiphos_2

    by takingscorpioscalls

    Good points there. Pete who so far in the past two seasons seemed like this prick douchebag, with the third season they're revealing more of his positive aspects, also interesting that he doesn't really drink as much as the others and i don't remember him smoking although he might have so he's not much into that eitehr.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 6:08:31 PM CDT

    Also agree Don won't bang teacher

    by takingscorpioscalls

    When she called her up i was just going "wtf is this?" followed by "are you shitting me? what a skank" but then this situation seems like one of those solely to show Don's progression and test him that he has improved somewhat despite boinking the stewardess earlier this season. Of course he might for more drama but that would be stupid.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 6:13:20 PM CDT

    *called him up

    by takingscorpioscalls

  • Sep 20, 2009 6:52:55 PM CDT

    Bryan De La Beckwith - Did not kill Evers, still a dick

    by greggers

    He may not have killed Medgar Evers, but you should have seen the way he MURDERED "Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)" at karaoke. Not cool, man. Not cool.

    And I'm willing to bet a pepperoni Hot Pocket that Don will indeed bang the teacher. Again, she was in the promo, Don has already lied to Betty about her being on the phone, and in case you haven't noticed, Don Draper *really likes* to have sex with women who are not his wife. It's like his favorite thing.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 9:20:21 PM CDT

    Go Cowboys

    by motivotion

    But i still choose Mad Men.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 9:46:18 PM CDT

    HA HA HA HA HA!!!

    by mr. nice gaius

    Oh my! And the John Deere tractor draws blood! Man, that is an instant, classic scene.

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  • Sep 20, 2009 9:48:49 PM CDT

    best moment of tv this year!

    by maxwell's hammer

    Lawn Mower, followed closely by Don Draper smooth-talking Conrad Hilton. Who is the dumbass who's been badmouthing this season?

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  • Sep 20, 2009 9:51:16 PM CDT

    I'm still cracking up.

    by mr. nice gaius

    That killed. And leave it to Roger to bring it home during the aftermath. Bravo!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 10:09:23 PM CDT

    Betty is a cunt and horrible mother

    by jubs

    But I'd still do her. Repeatedly.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 10:12:38 PM CDT

    Who Says Nothing Happens On This Show?

    by crow3711

    Not only an excellent episode, but manages to include the most shocking and yet completely believable tv moment in a long, long time. I was literally as shocked as if I had been there myself. It seemed like a fucking dream. And on top that, every other scene was just as awesome. And how fucking badass is John Slattery? Could he be any cooler? That scene in the barber shop...gold. No wonder this show wins every award. What competes with that?

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  • Sep 20, 2009 10:25:41 PM CDT

    If you look back, all the pieces are there....

    by voice o. reason

    ...but in a million years you could never see it coming.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 20, 2009 11:27:23 PM CDT

    WTF!?

    by colin62

    I have to admit, I lost my shit when the brit lost his foot. Holy hell.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Sep 21, 2009 12:13:03 AM CDT

    Only Mad Man can bring a lawnmover into the

    by hollywoodhellraiser

    office, not make it forced, and use it to cause some destruction! LOL That scene was incredible!

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  • Sep 21, 2009 12:16:04 AM CDT

    Lawnmover scene!

    by powers boothe

    Had to play it back just to make sure I didn't dream it. Bizarre and fantastic.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 12:23:28 AM CDT

    Agreed!

    by horrorfan81

    That Lawnmower scene was fucking incredible! I laughed so hard I was choking.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 12:32:51 AM CDT

    I was seriously stunned beyond belief!

    by hollywoodhellraiser

    Like others I wasn't sure what I actually saw and thought my eyes was playing tricks on me. Mhy jaws was on the floor and I was speechless!It'll be awhile before I forget something like that!I wonder if John Deere is happy about that? LOL

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  • Sep 21, 2009 12:37:26 AM CDT

    "sit down sister Mary, you look pale"

    by xiphos_2

    Fucking A Roger Sterling. A man among boys. "just when he got his foot in the door" I'm still fucking laughing.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 12:44:06 AM CDT

    TakingScorpiosCalls

    by xiphos_2

    Pete has become one fascinating character in my opinion. I thought all of the first season he was going to be the sterotypical office douchebag but in reality there is a lot of substance to him not immediatly visible. Plus he actually seems to be a rather decent fellow at his core, he just seems sleazy or maybe the better word is unctuous.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 12:46:29 AM CDT

    To all the Cowgirl fans....

    by wheel99

    Way to break in your new stadium with a loss to The New York Football Giants. lol

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  • Sep 21, 2009 12:48:25 AM CDT

    HollywoodHellraiser

    by xiphos_2

    I wonder if Cosgroves disclaimer about how safe John Deere tractors are if used correctly was demanded by John Deere so they would let Mad Men use thier logo and old style tractor.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 1:10:50 AM CDT

    That was one of the best episodes.

    by nopix

    It also left us hanging. Does Don have a new opportunity to take over Sterling Cooper and bring in the Hilton account?

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  • Sep 21, 2009 2:33:21 AM CDT

    That was JAW DROPPING entertainment!

    by lashlarue

    I sensed it was coming, but couldn't believe it when it happened. Amazing

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  • Sep 21, 2009 2:38:12 AM CDT

    Lost my shit when the lawnmower incident happened

    by takingscorpioscalls

    you had the guys standing there bewildered sprayed in blood, the SAW style screaming, and like a delightful cherry on top the girl retardedly crashes it into the office, bravissimo!

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  • Sep 21, 2009 2:52:30 AM CDT

    Does anybody know

    by xiphos_2

    If Conrad Hilton was gay in real life? rewatching that scene between him and Don it seemed to have a certain sexual undertone to it.Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding how a certain segement of society, one that doesn't exist anymore, acted. I'm not sure which.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 3:13:49 AM CDT

    I wonder how Conrad would feel about Paris...

    by lashlarue

    This show is fantastic!

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  • Sep 21, 2009 3:23:37 AM CDT

    Doctors say he'll never play golf again.

    by lashlarue

    I feel like I just went to my own funeral. I didn't like the eulogy.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 3:37:12 AM CDT

    It looks like Iwo Jima in here

    by xiphos_2

    We'll have to get mats for Cooper to walk around. God Damn Roger Sterling stomps on about 50 colons.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 7:51:05 AM CDT

    The lawnmower scene...

    by bizarrojerry

    I dunno... Kinsey covered in blood, the destroyed office. That was borderomg on -- if I may use the old, barely used anymore cliche -- a little shark jumping?That poor bastard's lost foot being the butt of jokes is pretty funny, if not terrible. But that guy was a horrible jackass. And Joan and Don's final scene just makes you think, why hasn't Don banged the bejeezus outta Joan? I suppose Roger's affair with her and Don not getting involved with someone in the office is why. Does anyone else get the feeling that the only mildly intelligent people on this show are Don and Joan? They seem to be the only ones who see through people's bullshit.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 7:51:22 AM CDT

    episode pulled me right back in

    by palewook

    yes its a drama, and sometimes it moves like a drama. yet its a brilliant show, one that knows how to pace and amuse the viewers.

    great episode. the office party was unforgettable.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 8:07:36 AM CDT

    Classic

    by forktongue

    He'll never be able to golf again. I love the feel of the pre-HR days. The Brits immediately right off the young account-man genius as soon as he becomes a cripple. Any sign of weakness and you can not perform in business. I guess that's the same reason why Pryce removed his spectacles before his meeting. Great episode!

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  • Sep 21, 2009 8:43:18 AM CDT

    That Guys Foot Is Worth Keeping Pryce Around

    by crow3711

    How devastated were you when you thought that man was getting unceremoniously sent to fucking Bombay after only 5 episodes. I would have been crushed. Thank god that guy lost his foot, in reality. It keeps Mr. Lane Pryce around a little while longer.

    Everything about this episode was pure brilliance. Fitting they should air this episode the night they win the Emmy again. It's just proof.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 9:39:58 AM CDT

    I often joke that...

    by danielkurland

    each of those strangers that Don talks to in episodes, are actually ghosts. Like, "Oh, it looks like this prison guard is the ghost he meets this week." Wonderful episode.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 10:32:38 AM CDT

    What's really funny re: tractor incident

    by nohubris

    Clearly, that was most certainly his BUTT-KICKING foot.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 10:35:52 AM CDT

    January Jones

    by miyamoto_musashi

    so yummy, if you don't want to bang her you must be gay

    Reply to Talkback

  • The Yanks able to see the absurd black humor in the situation, while the Brits were aghast. Notice Don's reaction when he was told that the man's career was over.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 11:37:11 AM CDT

    Jump the shark?

    by skimn

    A lawn mower accident doesn't fit the bill at all. It's if the series places a character at a key moment in history. Don just happens to have a business trip in Dallas in November...THAT would be jumping the shark.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 12:42:13 PM CDT

    Miyamoto_Musashi Re: January Jones

    by xiphos_2

    She hot enough(not as hot as Joan) that gays might take a moment to consider some things.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 1:09:51 PM CDT

    Re:Joan

    by skimn

    Who couldn't take their eyes off of her cleavage while she was consolling her husband on the couch? Anyone?

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  • Sep 21, 2009 1:46:51 PM CDT

    Anybody catch the score of that Cowboys game?

    by 2for2true

    Anybody? Motivotion?

    Eh?

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  • Sep 21, 2009 2:29:33 PM CDT

    Great episode

    by the mcpoyle clan

    and what's with all the invasion of the football freaks? Nobody here gives a rat's ass.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 2:53:16 PM CDT

    Great Ep. Betty is one fucked-up lady

    by mgthedj

    Her mother destroyed her and her father. That's why Gene was bonding with Sally, there was no hapry wife around to drive all that Victorian blue-blood nonsense in their heads. Thankfully Sally has her father's personality.Betty pulling rank on Don about naming the child: "That's what People do." Jesus that one hurt. Don and Joan will hook-up by the end of the series. As we say now, they just "get" each other.Joan's husband's situation, and the stuff with the Brit being sent home to be on welfare for the rest of his life was just how things were done before 1970 in High Society. You wonder what everyone was rebelling against? That was it!Neil Parick Harris made a joke at the Emmys about Joan. He said the actress is so hot she would make him consider turning straight, but oh.. nevermind since he saw Jon Hamm was there.-------later------m

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  • Sep 21, 2009 3:00:32 PM CDT

    NY schools ended June 21-25th

    by mgthedj

    My father is from the Hudson Valley and graduated HS in 1963. The school year was Tuesday after Labor Day to Christmas. Come back around Jan. 5th to take semester finals. Then go Jan. until June 21-25th. No spring break back then, but they did get a few days for Easter. This schedule is why people on the east coast take their family vacations in August. In the rest of the nation, we are going back to school in August.------m

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  • Sep 21, 2009 4:16:12 PM CDT

    Joan is Don Draper with tits

    by mazzke

    She's a total bad ass that immediately analyzes and correctly understand every situation she's in. She can handle anybody with complete mastery. She even has incredible advertising instinct, as evidenced by that episode where she reviewed TV scripts and came up with several insightful suggestions. She really is a female version of Don Draper. I sure hope she's not too proud to tell Sterling Cooper that she needs to stay employed for another year.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 4:16:36 PM CDT

    My thoughts, for what they're worth...

    by royston lodge

    1) I assumed Sally had pilfered one of her mommy's lipsticks, and that's was she was smearing across her face.
    2) The averted gaze: Maybe the two delivery rooms were next to each other, the walls were really thin, and prison guard's wife heard all the stuff Betsy was saying about Don in her drug-and-pain-induced mania.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 4:19:20 PM CDT

    The one character I miss from Mad Men.

    by royston lodge

    What happened to the german psychologist that Sterling Cooper had on staff?

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  • Sep 21, 2009 7:51:45 PM CDT

    Pryce...

    by bizarrojerry

    Isn't it interesting how they did such a quick turnaround from us thinking Pryce was just a prick, to actually feeling for the guy. It started when Don asked why they bought them and he said, "I don't know."By the way, I would think the Brits can understand black comedy as much, maybe even more than, Americans. Though, maybe the Brits lightening up was a more recent development.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 8:02:20 PM CDT

    This episode was good and bad

    by countryboy

    Good because everything focised on the "British Invasion" -- even w/out the tractor scene, it was just more engaging because it wasn't just a bunch of events, as this show usually is. Everything was connected.

    Bad becasue after the lost foot, everything went back to the way it was before. Nothing moved forward, nothing changed. I guessed all along that Joan's husband would fail. And Sally was interesting but a subplot.

    A good and bad episode.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 8:07:39 PM CDT

    "Sit down Sissy-Marry, you look pale"

    by codymr

    I love Roger Sterling, he's such an ass.

    So I guess the run up to this ep was the calm before the storm? I enjoyed the snake references and how those Brit executives were such polite bullies towards Lane Pryce.

    As for Joan, in season 1 she was a character I loved to hate. Then in season 2 I kinda pitied her. Now in season 3 I kinda respect her. She was the only one who didn't freak out when Guy lost his foot.

    Nicely made episode.

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  • Sep 21, 2009 8:31:19 PM CDT

    A Deere John letter to my foot...

    by redd

    Foot, I think it's best if we part ways.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 3:00:31 AM CDT

    Joan will come back somehow

    by takingscorpioscalls

    trust me the show is not going to ditch her.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 8:48:59 AM CDT

    Ideas on how to bring Joan back...

    by royston lodge

    - Her doctor hubby kills himself out of shame for being passed over for promotion?
    - Don gets some Hilton money, buys Sterling Cooper back from the limeys and recruits her?
    - Duck's adventures in poaching starts being successful and the show begins to feature a second ad agency?
    - She waves her boobs in Roger's face and gets whatever she asks for?

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  • Sep 22, 2009 8:53:06 AM CDT

    I think Maybe Joan Will Get Promoted Instead

    by crow3711

    And be asked to stay on in some capacity. There is no way she's leaving the show. The one thing I hope they don't do is just continue to follow her character and her husband after she has left Sterling Cooper, just to show what her home life is like, etc, or her new job or whatever it may be. If she leaves, she leaves. I don't want some disconnected story of her life outside Sterling Cooper.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 9:35:34 AM CDT

    I don't mind following Joan outside.

    by royston lodge

    After all, Joan an Peggy and like Yin and Yang characters. Peggy rejected the domestic "50s" culture that her mom cherishes and chose life in the office. Joan, on the other hand, has rejected the office (where she excels) for the domestic life (where she will almost certainly not fit in). Watching Joan's life hit the power lines and crash to the ground in fiery flaming flames could provide some damned good dramatic moments.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 9:37:04 AM CDT

    Don has REALLY specific taste in champagne!

    by royston lodge

    They were drinking Veuve Cliquot, and he said he didn't think it was "good champagne".
    I suppose Don uses Veuve Cliquot to wash his car?!?!
    ;-)

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  • Sep 22, 2009 11:11:48 AM CDT

    Mr. Kinsey, you might want to shave your beard.

    by crow3711

    What?! Who the HELL are you people?

    Fucking classic.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 11:17:04 AM CDT

    What is that?

    by royston lodge

    Chocolate pudding!

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  • Sep 22, 2009 1:14:22 PM CDT

    Budweiser and Ritz crackers

    by throwmetheidol

    The product placements were very blatant. I wonder how much the show charged.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 2:09:48 PM CDT

    Product placement pros and ons.

    by royston lodge

    On the other hand, here's a big bad ad exec home after a hard day at the office, and his dinner is chicken salad, Ritz(tm) crackers and a can of Budweiser(tm). It so perfectly set the scene!
    That tone would have been destroyed if he was drinking the generic "beer" that Dan Connor used to drink on Roseanne.
    Plus, a great many people watch the show on iTunes or through another delivery medium where there are no commercials. They gotta pay the bills.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 2:20:25 PM CDT

    I have to agree

    by throwmetheidol

    That there are some pros to product placements and they didn't ruin the episode for me this time. But if Betty holds up a bottle of Clorox to the camera and the folded clothes beside her sparkle, I'm drawing a line there.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 2:39:07 PM CDT

    How about if...

    by royston lodge

    ...Betsy offers him Ritz(tm) for dinner again and he slaps her for not making him a real dinner?
    I kid! I kid! I kid, because I love.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 2:47:38 PM CDT

    To be fair, logos CAN be visually jarring.

    by royston lodge

    I saw Divorce American Style on TCM the other day. There's a scene that takes place in the parking lot of a 1960s McDonalds. It was very bizarre. Cars, fashions and hairdos from the 1960s, next to a "golden arches" sign that looked no different from those we see today.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 2:53:38 PM CDT

    So, in other words...

    by royston lodge

    ...would it be less whoresome if they used products that are no longer sold, or at least aren't nearly as iconic?
    Like, I suppose Don COULD have been drinking a beer that's no longer around.
    Like, in Quebec the best-selling beer in the 50s/60s was called Dow. They took it off the market because it was discovered to contain an unhealthy amount of cobalt. I kid you not.
    Put a can of something like Dow into a character's hand and bango, you've got yourself some subversive 60s goodness!

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  • Sep 22, 2009 4:03:17 PM CDT

    I'm reminded of the early scene in Close Encounters

    by skimn

    that showed the effects of the blackout by a cutaway to a McDonalds and a name gas station. As if we couldn't imagine the effects of a blackout if those businesses weren't affected. But it seems natural on Mad Man because of all the real life products and name brands that are mentioned. And the product placements are so vintage (a can of Bud that has to be opened like a can of oil?) to make them novel.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 4:15:43 PM CDT

    If Any Show Can Get Away With Product Placement Its This

    by crow3711

    I mean come on, it takes place in a fucking ad agency. Product placement is their job. 99 out of 100 times product placement in Mad Men will seem right at home. It's not like Betty turned to the camera with a cheery smile and said "Don, honey, would you like delicious, crisp, buttery Ritz crackers to go with that? And how about a refreshing Budweiser to wash it all down, you good old American hunk you." With a wink, as she holds up both. Gimme a break. I love that they use real products in this show, it adds authenticity instead of taking away in almost every case. The first season finale, with the Kodak Carousel thing, one of the most touching and powerful moments this show has ever had, and it was because of product placement essentially.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 4:21:11 PM CDT

    I want to follow Joan everywhere and slowly

    by takingscorpioscalls

    i hope she walk slowly.... very slowly.

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  • Sep 22, 2009 4:24:31 PM CDT

    Veuve Cliquot is TOILET water

    by takingscorpioscalls

    pure ASS TASTE. I'd rather drink diahrea than THAT!

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  • Sep 22, 2009 4:25:07 PM CDT

    He should have been wearing a cowboy hat while eating pudding

    by takingscorpioscalls

  • Sep 23, 2009 3:02:12 PM CDT

    "He'll never be able to play golf again."

    by swivile bobble fizz fizz

    That line had me rolling.
    Also when Don walks in, sees the blood on Joan's outfit and says "Oh my."
    Joan looks down casually and says "I know. It's ruined."
    Hilarious

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  • Oct 11, 2009 2:46:07 AM CDT

    What's Pete's Handicap?

    by bimbokay

    WHY isn't Pete limping? Why do we know nothing about the amputation, rehab, prosthesis, etc. Was the German au pair freaked out when a footless man forced her into having sex?

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