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A Romeroless NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD Pseudo-Revisitation Is in The Works...
Merrick here...
The Powers That Be are mounting a 3-D/CGI prequelish origin story built around George Romero's NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD.
Titled “Night of the Living Dead: Origins,” the re-imagining is being directed by newcomer Zebediah de Soto and produced by Simon West and Simon West Productions president Jib Polhemus.
On the story front, De Soto, who wrote the script with David R. Schwartz, wants to update the tale partially by bringing out the characters’ backstories and make what he called “an American-style anime.”
...says The Hollywood Reporter HERE.
Romero's 1968 original was the progenitor of Zombieriffic follow-ups like DAWN OF THE DEAD, DAY OF THE DEAD, LAND OF THE DEAD, DIARY OF THE DEAD, and the not-yet-released SURVIVAL OF THE DEAD.
On the story front, De Soto, who wrote the script with David R. Schwartz, wants to update the tale partially by bringing out the characters’ backstories and make what he called “an American-style anime.”
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Literally. There is absolutely no point in making this.
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And is this an anime? Who the hell wants to know about the family, the couple, the black guy, and the girl before the zombies attacked? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Come up with your own original story, sheesh.
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This is a waste of time. Might as well be another Resident Evil 'toon.
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Its called making money off of a creative property you have NOTHING to do with. There's a special circle in Hell for hacks like these.
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I want a monkey butler...
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I really enjoyed the Bunny version of Night of the Living Dead.
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I don't get this obsession with people's backstories. It's a zombie movie not a biopic.
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So it'll essentially be... another zombie movie. Aren't they all basically reinterpretations of the original anyway? Savini ballsed up the other remake. Hey, they should use CG! Mo-cap! 3... ah. Right. They ARE doing it 3D. Clearly there is no more room left in hell.
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Really, a prequel to NOTLD? There are some cool zombie themed books like Brian Keene's The Rising or Dead Sea that could easily be made into interesting zombie films. Hell, why aren't they making a Left 4 Dead movie?
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Got zombies coming out of our ears right now! Seems like a good time to revisit the Dojo's top five Zombie Movies (anyone else want to post their's pls go ahead!)
TOP FIVE ZOMBIE FLICKS
(in no particular order)
DAWN OF THE DEAD
LIFEFORCE
THRILLER
28 WEEKS LATER
NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (original)
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Now that's a kick ass zombie novel that could be a kick ass zombie movie in competent hands.
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Judas priest!! I know Zombies and Vampires are all the rage... But leave this movie alone! We do not need a fleshing out of the existing characters.
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And now I'm afraid I'll never get the chance to get it off the ground bc of the absolute flooding of zombie crap into the market. Hacks like the guys in charge of this project are hurting first-timers with good ideas like me.
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well, as long as it has Ryan Reynolds, he can do whatever he wants
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Night of the Living Dead (original)
Dawn of the Dead (original)
Return of the Living Dead
Dead Alive (where the fuck is the director's cut?)
Shaun of the Dead
Cemetery Man (Dellamorte Dellamore)
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and its sequel revenge of the Ira zombies.
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Soylent, Cemetary Man was kinda surreal nonsense but it definitely gets extra credit for Anna Falchi. Fuck... SO HOT!
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Yeah! I can't wait for those zombie/anime characters to open that giant black circle of a mouth to bite the giant-eyed, unblinking people characters. ANIME/MAGNA is an automatic turn-off for ba-zillions of people. Why? It's just friggin god-aweful bad all around. ANIME is the MOST annoying style of animation EVER.
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That movie sticks out so much because I was really young when I saw it the first time and that chick really left an "impression", if you know what I mean.
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and find them kind of creepy as well.
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for a very long time. At least a decade.
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Just so you know. I think he also did Con Air.I have no problem with a prequel to NOTLD. That film has been gang raped since it came out so it certainly won't tarnish it anymore than it already has been (particularly by that bastardization millenium edition Harry rightfully destroyed). The last 3D version with Sid Haig wasn't TOTAL shit, but was pretty close to it.I quite like the color edition with DTS sound actually, and I understand they are now making ANOTHER colorized version, this time with retrofitted 3D. Of course there has been a 3D version available for many years with a specific 3D home system.I'm not sure how necessary this is, though I would like a definitive answer for how the zombie outbreak started. Geor4ge has never explained it. It is hinted in the first film that a returning satellite had something to do with it. That would be a cool thing to explore so I hope this new film does.
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They just need to be done in a fresh and invigorating way. Brian Keene's The Rising changed up the mythos of zombies by making everything (and I mean everything) susceptible to infection. The last Resident Evil movie stole a really good part of the book (zombie birds) but that movie failed to give those dead avians actual intelligence.
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Send it straight to DVD so we can all properly forget that it exists.
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not just the Savini version..but a 3D version with Sid Haig!
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I agree about vampires needing to be feared again, rather than lusted after, as they are currently. That's actually why I gave 30 Days of Night a huge pass, flaws and all. It was great to actually see vampires that were beasts in that film, voracious, heartless monsters.
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An Ahmish Japanese director? Sorry but the original NOTLD is the best of the bunch so far. It's stark, well paced, gloomy and creepy. All the remakes are gimmicky and lose the whole atmosphere.
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Some truly fucked up kills. The whole screaming all the time was kinda annoying but all in all I enjoyed the hell out of that movie.
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Just add that to the ad copy or review of any of the 237 zombie and vampire movies that are in the pipeline.
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"I have had some pretty awful experiences in my life. As well as quite a few wonderful ones.
The worst, I always thought, would be having to stand in the room while the authorities pulled the melted jewelry from my mother’s burnt corpse. That was a bad experience.
Then there were the two rusty nails that slammed into my knee to the hilt.
Oh yeah... and not being able to move my legs.
I always thought that nothing I could see in film could even approach the misery of these personal moments.
But then, I could never in a thousand years imagine the creative still-birth of the 30th Anniversary NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD DVD." http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=4397 Is this the same website where Knowles posted this review of someone else's awful attempt to cash in on Romero's public domain classic? Why the fuck are you giving free press to the next gang of creeps' "Nightsploitation" project? -
Every other horror movie is a zombie movie or a vampire movie. These films need to die or just go away for a good 20 years. Once Romero couldn't make a decent zombie film (Land and Diary) the sub-genre should have been put to rest.
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...with the majority here. There is no point to this. Any fan of the original isn't interested in seeing another remake (especially another 3-D remake without Romero involved), and the public at large don't consider it a classic so much as a waste of their time. Stupid bullshit which I will gladly watch when I can for free.
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So will they have tiny eyes and tiny mouths?
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I would create a movie studio that only produced new, non-remake Horror, with an emphasis on creatures and actual danger.
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He's possibly the most retarded 40 year old on the internet.
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Because like The Thing, the cast is trapped. Even though it's not claustrophobic like alien or NOTLD, it's atmospheric. They have to fight and survive with minimal resources and they can't just leave. Good setup, but the cast, writing and effects have to sell it as well. If a vampire or zombie movie does not have a solid atmosphere like NOTLD, 30 days of night etc, it's DOA. Another thing that kills the genre is making the vampires romantic, and not scary. Or make the heros blase smartasses like "diary of the dead." If the cast isn't serious, the audience won't be either. The characters have to convey dread and fear, not obnoxious snarky attitudes. "Ohh the big scary vampire..." At least Shaun of the dead hit a home run because they headed for comedy first, not a confused blend of bad jokes, sarcasm and attempts at horror.
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to the videogame, which was still basically Resident Evil on a spacestation, and the airport sequence of that CGI Resident Evil flick. But this sounds like more overkill. And if its the back story to NOTLD, then wouldn't it be a lot like The Andromeda Strain?
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I agree about "Patient Zero"..i enjoyed the book..Zombies and Al-Queda!a smashing story!!
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Sep 16, 2009 12:24:46 PM CDT
Can't anyone remake this anytime cause it's public domain?
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Thats why Rifftrax ( the MST3000 guys ) can produce a DVD thats for sale now.
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an animated version of the original script of Day of the Dead.If Romero does anymore zombie films he should just produce.
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of Harry Carey? Holy Cow! those are some big fuckin' glasses!!!
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Take A Flying Fuck Hollywood
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which the producer of the original movie,releashed in a anniversary edition dvd a few years ago.you know the one were a bold priest freak was added.
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Clearly it's an important film.
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Survivial of the dead looks likes something made from a budget of 3 dollars.
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MOORE pitched a "Watchmen" prequel. It was called "Minutemen," and it was set between 1939 and 1959 if memory serves. It was all about how the creation of costumed crime fighters brought us to the point where "Watchmen" could happen. Obviously, he didn't follow up once DC screwed him on the rights.
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and they should talk
and be able to fly
and not be all gross and dead looking
and be sparkly in the sunlight
and one of them feels tru love for a human
and they should have a deep and spiritual bond with dragon partners
and they all go to rival high schools
and they all know that, knowing is half the battle
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I'm surprised.
I freakin' love that movie.
And 28 Weeks Later is pretty awesome too, as long as you hit the STOP button on the DVD Player before you have to endure the retardedly cliched ending.
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Has an awesome opening but then it goes downhill from there once the virus is let loose. I've never seen a director with such contempt for his characters that he actually seems to delight in shoving their horribly violent deaths in our face. And then there's all the stupid things the character do too. But I will admit, the helicopter scene in this movie is much much better than the one in Planet Terror.
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There's a catch-22 to that idea. Virtually any premise that any writer could possibly think up for a horror movie these days WILL be derivative of something that's been done before, often ad nauseum.
So, when an 'original' script comes across your desk and you see that it's really quite similar to "Movie X" from umpteen years ago, why NOT say to yourself, "self, why don't we just buy the rights to the name and get the instant bump in ticket sales?"
If (and it's a big if) you have a good script, the benefits of just swallowing your pride and buying the name outweigh the benefits of keeping your "integrity". But if you've got a bad script, nobody's going to say, "that movie sucked, but at least it wasn't a remake." -
Romero isn't what he used to be but that doesn't excuse this dumb idea, there's no need for this remake. although of course how many remakes are actually needed?
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It doesn't have that high of a rewatch factor for me.
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My interests lie more in the "what can we do that's new in terms of creature design" more than the "what can we do to make a profit" camp.
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...does that mean that anyone can make a movie set within the "Living Dead" universe and continuity, or are they restricted to working within the strict confines of the first movie only?
Obviously, you couldn't use characters from Romero's other Living Dead movies.
But how much could you get away with by making subtle references to events in Romero's other movies, and/or making sure that your Living Dead movie conformed to Romero's continuity?
What I'm getting at: When people make zombie movies, why not keep them in Romero's universe if there's no legal restriction to do so? It could be a fanboy's dream.
Like, imagine if people were allowed to make their own Star Wars Expanded Universe movies. Sure lots would suck, but they wouldn't be canon, some could be really good, and many could be much better than the prequels. -
Way to take advantage of Romero's fucking editors who left the copyright notice out of the credits and thus doomed his baby to be raped over and over again by fucking hacks with no originality.
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You could only follow up NOTLD, so how much universe do you have to work with?
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I love 28 Days Later. I find it highly rewatchable. However I don't ever want to see 28 Weeks Later again, because of the way Rose Byrne's character is killed. They hold the camera on her face while a zombie smashes it in with a rifle butt. It's too real, too horrifying. Reminded me of Vincent smashing the guy's head in with a fire extinguisher in Irreversible.
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is alright by me and i call him a friend anyday of the week. God, to remmeber when i saw the movie back in the day. Great memories. The movie needs a real DVD edition, not the vanilla stuff we got years ago.
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...not since the peerlessly gorgeous Anchor Bay remastering, which if you haven't seen, run out and watch it immediately. I'll wait. Back? Great. The reason _NOTLD_ was PD in the first place was because our neophyte filmmakers forgot to put a copyright anywhere in the credits -- thus, a quintrillion awful DVD dupes you can find at any "discount store". I, personally, will look forward to the remake of the backstory of _Day of the Dead 2_, hopefully by then a 4D Austro-Hungarian-style anime that I can have injected directly into my skull, which will kill me and prevent me from rising from the dead and strangling EVERY LAST, NO-TALENT MORON DIPSHIT ASSHOLE WITH $$$ AND A PRODUCTION COMPANY THAT "REMAKES" CLASSICS BECAUSE THERE IS ZERO ORIGINALITY LEFT IN THE UNIVERSE, WE WILL "SAMPLE" EVERY LAST ATOM UNTIL ALL REALITY ACHIEVES ULTIMATE VIRTUALITY AND THE OMNIVERSE WILL COLLAPSE IN ON ITSELF, DESTROYING ALL AND EVERYTHING NOW AND FOREVER, THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or I'll get a pizza. I can't make up my mind which...
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Rose Byrne's death pissed me the fuck off. I mean, so did the sniper's because it was just so inherently STUPID. But Rose Byrne's death was the last straw and the moment when I truly hated the movie; its when I realized the director hated his characters too. Here you have the last surviving hero of the piece, and instead of killing her off in a respectful manner, you feel the need to throw her death in our face by putting a camera at the end of the rifle butt used to smash her face in? Fuck you.
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This is Romero?
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...but I do love _28 Weeks_, even more than _28 Days_. Like the original _Night_, this is a film that "went there", didn't hold back in it's tightly wound 90 minutes or so, and I'd say the pain we feel by the end demonstrates empathy in the midst of absolute horror -- I don't see where the director hated his characters, at all. APart from that, I'm not sure I understand D.Vader's point -- a "nice" death, after all the carnage, wife-abandoning-to-zombies (oops, spoilers...), survivors-trapped-and torn-into-by-nightmarishly-under/overlit-zombies-underground, survivors-trapped-by-Gen.-Stringer-Bell's-orders-to-shoot-on-sight, etc., ah, but now show some respect and let the nice lady die of a hangnail, or something? I beg to differ.
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They shot it from POV, as if YOU are smashing her face in. It feels rather like violence-porn as opposed to horror.
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Thanks Asi, as for you D.Vader - creator of the Garden Party Massacre - i'm suprised you're squeamish about a director wiping out his characters with 'horribly violent deaths'. lol
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...is given a whole new meaning... Whole thing sounds bogus. But how about some love for some Italian zombie action?! L. Fulci is my homie.
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Let me try to communicate what I meant. I felt like the director had no respect for his characters based on the way he chose to portray their deaths. I don't mean the choice to kill them off, as that is a decision based on story. I meant the way he chose to show them, a decision based on personal style and effect on the audience. The director first pissed me off when he decided to punish the lovely woman who once married Braveheart, by killing her in one of the most absolutely brutal ways possible. Here's a poor woman who was abandoned by her husband and managed to survive amidst the RAGE infected freaks for 28 weeks. She is finally rescued, sees her children and husband once more only to what? To have her eyes thumbed out of her skull by her husband? And its not subtle, we're shown it in all its gory detail. The thumbs in the eyes worked well in the first movie bc it was CATHARTIC. We WANTED to see that asshole soldier get his comeuppance, so when Jim does it, we cheer. When we're forced to watch this beautiful woman needlessly suffer the same fate, its offputting, and not in the "gory horror film" way. Its off-putting in the "why did I need to see that" way. It continues with the death of the sniper, which was just so stupid. Not once did the Sniper EVER attempt to contact his buddies, to communicate with them that he was alive and doing important work on the ground. And as he sends the kids in the car, not once does he even attempt to shoot the guys with flamethrowers? He just allows himself to burn horribly to death? And AGAIN the director shoves that death in our face. Its possible to be subtle and restrained but this director doesn't know the meaning of either word, is the impression I get. All this culminates in the way he shoots Rose Byrne's death, by smashing her face in with the camera. Again, how does this stylistic choice serve the story or the audience? We already know the Infected are brutal. We don't *need* to see another beautiful and innocent victim have her face destroyed again. All of it just told me that the director wasn't attached to any of his characters, not even the good ones that tried to do the right thing. And for that, I hated the movie and I hated the director's style. Which is a shame, too, because the trailers and the opening of the film held such promise. (point being, you can still have Rose Byrne fall victim to the never-ending and unstoppable hoard/force of nature, but you can do it without shoving its vileness into our face, reveling in its awfulness)
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I guess what I'm saying is, I wouldn't set up such great and likable characters in "Garden Party Massacre" only to kill them off in terribly gory ways AND show them in all their horrible details. One, I think it would show a dislike for the characters, a preference for style over substance. Two, I think it would defeat the point. If the point is to show these deaths and enjoy them for all its juicy, bloody detail (like Garden Party Massacre), then by all means, go for it. But I don't think that's what 28 Days Later was all about. And when deaths *were* treated that way in the 1st installment, it was mainly to the villains, the ones you wanted to see die in terrible ways bc it was a cathartic release. Am I making sense? I feel like I'm not communicating my point very well and am repeating a lot of the same words and phrases. Its an off-day right now. Main point- I would only portray my deaths the same way as he did if I cared nothing about my characters. But watching 28 Weeks Later, I *did* care about the sniper and the lovely Rose Byrne, so their deaths were not only shocking, but also aggravating and insulting. And not bc they died, but bc they way he showed them dying.
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In that movie there is the notorious shot of the wood sliver slowly piercing the woman's eyeball and on into her brain, killing her. It's shot from very close up, but from the side. I don't need to feel like I am the one sliding a piece of wood into her eye (or was it pushing her head onto the wood? Will have to re-watch).
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I am sorry but Romero lost it, a long time ago. After 28 days later and Shaun of the Dead, I felt that pretty much everything that could be done with zombies had been done, but then I read wwz. Now I can't wait until that is turned into movie. I would rather see it turn into a HBO miniseries, but since that is not about to happen, then I am will settle for a quality movie.
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By that, I meant I would have been fine, yet still horrified (which is the point), had they shot her death as something like a silhouette against the wall, something like that.
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My only issue is the POV nature of the shot. I don't want to feel like I am the one killing her.
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Night of the living monkies!
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The zombie is pushing her head onto the wood, as I recall. And for me, that moment is more about a "Le Chien Andalou" sort of experience, than anything else.
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I'm not picking up the reference.
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I just puked.
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Disney could make it happen. Disney could also make available Mr. Boogedy on fuckin' DVD, if they fuckin' wanted to.
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That story, in which everything seems to happen randomly in the exact way so that the story can continue, kills the film completely. The wife end up being a "carrier"? what the fuck? And She's being guarded by like one guy? then the father ends up being a cunning zombie? How convenient) Even with great performances from Jeremy Renner (who more or less carries the film) and Rose Byrne. Those first ten minutes are incredible though. The fact that they try to make it look like Robert Carlyle did some reprehensible thing by not committing suicide in a futile attempt to save his wife just shows how the film quickly devolves into cliche.
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The girl is getting pulled through a wall or door that a zombie had broken through, hence her eye being pulled in to the splintered wood. Also, I'm relatively sure there was a POV shot in that scene as well. Granted, it's a side shot once eye makes wood contact, but I seem to remember a chunk of it being POV. I need to go rewatch to be certain though
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Un chien andalou is a surrealist film by Buñuel/Dali that starts off with a very famous scene in which a woman's eyeball is sliced.
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mmmmmmmmm.....nope!
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"Le Chien Andalou" is the surrealist short film by Bunuel and Salvador Dali, and features early on a scene where a man slices a woman's eyeball with a razor. It's in close-up and it is horrific (though a cow's eye was used for the actual penetration). The moment, like many of them in the film, for me, anyway, is about taboo - and therefore suppressed - human emotions. So the depiction of that kind of violence really touches us deeply.
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Both of those kids were annoying as piss, I was really looking forward to them both eating it. Not to mention the massive shark jumping of Zombie Dad. I understand and agree to a certain point with Vader. The Rose Byrne death didn't really rub me the wrong way the way the mother's death did. Usually, when entering a horror movie, I'm prepared for over-the-top deaths, etc. so I was somewhat surprised that I found myself thinking, "Wow, that was mostly unnecessary. "
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but I think the splinter part is mostly profile with a few extreme close-ups on her eye, nothing technically POV.Could be wrong though.
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Dont we get her POV on the looming splinter?
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make it so.please.
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Please don't do this.
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As is that song dedicated to Un Chien Andalou.
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There's actually a good amount of POV from the girl's perspective. There's also a shot from outside with the arm pulling her forward, I suppose it's not technically POV, but it switches between the girl's viewpoint and the zombie's pseudo viewpoint more than it stays fixed on the profile. At least until the money shot. I don't really see how that's any less bad than seeing Rose Byrne take it from rifle butt.
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There is a POV shot of the splinter... very nasty moment. Also, let me get my thoughts more properly expressed on "Andalou:" the film's imagery of a razor slicing into a human eyeball (a female eye, sliced by a male), goes beyond not just what we would expect to see in a film, but what we would expect anyone to *imagine* as an act of violence. That is part of its taboo nature. And so is the Zombi splinter scene (which I have to believe was directly inspired by the Bunuel film). Thus endeth my pointless ramblings.
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Just FYI
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I also agree to a certain point with Vader. Sometimes less is more in death scenes.
I didn't feel it particularly in 28 WEEKS because that film was so callous and nihilistic that I was braced for the worst - but I did feel it in PANS LABYRINTH which had that fairy tale vibe. The scene where the baddie italian fascist caught a supposed poacher and smashed his face to mush with a bottle showed way too much for my personal sensibility. -
Tom Ssvini already gave us a very solid remake of the original. Nothing else is needed but of course since this movie is public domain people can continue to remake it over and over. I'm sort of shocked it has taken this long really to get another remake. I know there was a 3D version with Sid Haig that was pretty awful but should've we have a big budget remake by now of the orginal? Instead they are doing a CGI remake with unneeded backstories? Is this going to be the new trend? Remakes, prequels, 3D and now CGI remake/prequels?
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Oh and as for 28 Days later...go read I Am Legend, watch The Stand and Day Of The Dead and you have 28 Days Later. It stole completly from all three of those stories. Such an original piece of shit passed off as an original movie.
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They should clone David Schwimmer as all the zombies. All of them.
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...due a remake, nevermind this yawnsome prequel idea!
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It says the script is co-written by David R. Schwartz. According to imdb he hasn't written a script since 1967.
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Because max security military installations always give high level clearance to the fucking janitor. 28 WEEKS has some nice touches in it, but plot-wise it's as dumb as it gets.
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...but Lifeforce is a vampire movie.
And not a vampire movie in the same vein of how 28 Days/Weeks Later isn't an actual zombie movie.
Don't get me wrong, I love that flick in all it's cheesey glory, but it just ain't a zombie movie. Now for my top 5:
1) Night of the Living Dead(original)
2) Dawn of the Dead(original)
3) Dawn of the Dead(remake- the first ten minutes of this movie blew me away)
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I dig 28 Weeks Later bigtime, but the plotholes in that movie to advance the new Rage outbreak are the worst I've ever seen.
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What was Night of the Living Dead 3D?
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MidnightMeat I take your point that LIFEFORCE isn't a regular zombie movie but for the second half of it olde London town is crawling with shambling undead fuckers so I think it just about qualifies.
By the same token I wouldn't say it was exactly a vampire movie either. The uber-hot naked babe does have the vamp hypnosis thing down (and I can think of far worse ways to go out than be 'sucked dry' by her) but at the end of the day - she doesnt have fangs, she walks around in the day, and there's no mention of stakes or crucifixes.
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... at one point, the title of the film was going to be "Space Vampires." Shitty title, good thing they changed it before its release. And since I'm back here wastimg time, here's my Top Five zombie movie list, in no particular order: NOTLD (orig.), Dawn of the Dead (remake), Zombi (Fulci's baby), Reanimator, and 28 Days Later.
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is based on the Colin Wilson novel, "The Space Vampires," isn't it? And the vamps/zombies are killed by cold iron through the chest, if memory serves (I haven't seen the film in at least ten years). That's pretty vampirish rather than zombie-ish.
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HarryCalder, I think Tobe Hooper actually wanted to title it "Naked Space Vampires That Turn Victims Into Zombies" but he got shouted down by the studio bosses.
At any rate you're throwing stones in a glass house when you include REANIMATOR as a top 5 zombie movie. That clearly belongs in 'the mad scientist' sub-genre. It's tenuous dude. Tenuous. -
At avtr.com . Just letting y'all know...
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*raspberry* "Reanimator" is a Frankenstein story, not a zombie story.
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Granted, Reanimator is not strictly a "zombie" movie, per se, but I would argue that there are several reanimated corpses, aka Zombies, in that movie. And is not Frankenstein a zombie story in some respects? Also, "Naked Space Vampires That Turn Victims Into Zombies" is a movie I promise to make myself someday, just because I dig that title.
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DennisMM I agree both LIFEFORCE and REANIMATOR are tenuous zombie movies (I think LIFEFORCE is a little less tenous personally)...
But hold on... what the fuck was Frankensteins monster if not THE FIRST EVER MOTHERFUCKING ZOMBIE?
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but to me, raising the dead deliberately doesn't yield a zombie. Monster sometimes, but not what I consider a zombie. It's a different sort of story.
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I don't see how you can say it's not. (I know they're not zombies).
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I don't see how you can say it's not. (I know they're not zombies).
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Its 4 great tastes that taste great together.
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including tissue, then Reanimator would qualify, despite the huge mad scientist angle. Dr. Cyclops was a mad scientist, but that was a "little people" movie, so it fits under that particular genre.
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Just occurred to me that what most people think of when "Zombie" movies are mentioned are not just reanimated, pissed off corpses (or things of their ilk that aren't dead, a la 28 Days/Weeks), but an "outbreak" of some kind that affects huge populations. So there are always tons of zombies around, not just a few of them. So I'll grant that Reanimator does not fit this definition of the "Zombie" movie. That said, it is still one of my all-time favorite horror movies, and it has zombies in it, so I'm keepin' it.
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Frankenstein/monster(undead) bites the Doc creating the first Zombie. Together they terrorize the villagers. Taking retro back to its logical conclusion.
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how'd they come up with this idea? The dead rise and terrorize people on the country side? Damn. Goddamn.
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I hope they dont remake it and remake it again. That'd be extremely fucking stupid.
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SERIOUSLY. DO YOU EVER SHUT THE FUCK UP?
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..and forced to spend your life watching shitlined retreads of 40 year-old movies that were barely watchable when the ideas were original. Friday the 13th, Halloween, Last House on the Left, Texas Chainsaw, et al., mostly B to B+ movies from the 70's that don't even come close to improving on the idea. If there's any originality in horror, it sure as hell ain't coming from Hollywood.
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is coming from overseas. Even fucking France is producing better horror these days. *sigh*
Cobra- Lifeforce(and 28 days/weeks) definitely fits into the "zombie apocalypse" genre. As for the vampire thing, the movie heavily implies that vampires of lore originated with these aliens. Remember their original form is that of a giant bat-like creature. -
I have a vague memory of reading that a discussed name for the movie that didn't make it was "Space Vampires" and whoever said this was blaming the title that came to be on contributing to the film's financial failure.
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Have you seen Dead Snow (Dod Sno)? That one had Nazi Zombies in Norway.
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...though I've heard some not-so-good things about it.
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Don't forget Goblin's evil soundtrack music accompanying that scene: "Dooo dooo dooo." Watching that scene makes my eye burn.
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Sounded alittle "out there" for my taste.
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I had a heil of a good time watching it on the big screen. Who knows how it will translate to video.
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Who needs all that pesky dialogue?
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It might be interesting to se Johnny get beat up by a 10 year old kid. It's kind of funny that he was tougher as a zombie than when he was alive...And what happened to Barbara? Why did she become frigid? What about Mr. Cooper - maybe he was a stand in for Mr. Clean? The only one worth their salt in the movie was Ben but seeing his story growing up during the civil rights era in PA might not be as exciting as the South. Bottom line...Pointless....Pointless...
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Judy was hot in her sort of way. Maybe we can see her at a barbecue before she became one.
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Everything about that description is just wrong, bad wrong, mean wrong. Should not be.I think we're starting to see the dawning of the fruits of the downloading generation: no more original ideas. "Creativity" is just copying & pasting and tweaking a little. "Art" is just "re-imagining" what someone else worked hard to imagine.Of course such theft has always been around, but I think we're starting to enter a new phase as people who've basically grown up with the assumption that everything is free to take are now "creating" our reality.Be afraid.
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FUCK THAT!
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Zombies? Really? Has any Zombie movie really ever done well? Really?
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The version of Dead Snow I DL'd doesnt have subtitles.
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It was by Fabio Frizzi and Giorgio Tucci.
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..is the stupidest name I've ever heard.
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this is a pretty terrible idea, wasn't one terrible 3D remake enough? and “an American-style anime.” does that mean it's animated or something? I'm confused
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High School Of The Dead, it's a manga so if you're the type of idiot who dismisses anything anime/manga outright it might not interest you, but if you're more open minded you should check it out, Romero style zombies and manga are two great tastes that aste great together and Shaun from Shaun Of The Dead even has a cameo
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aside from all the valid points made here.
In the original NOTLD, you were very focused on the present. Nobody knew what caused the zombie outbreak, nobody knew anything about each other- it was all about survival for the moment. It was a good choice in my opinion. It was obvious the survivors in that house were all from different backgrounds, but do we really need to know every little detail? No it takes away from the atmosphere of confusion, and chaos that the original conveyed so well. -
FFS. AWFUL, SIMPLY AWFUL. MIND NUMBINGLY AWFUL. IT WASN'T FUN. IT WASN'T A GOOD TIME. EUROPEANS SHOULD SIMPLY DISPENSE WITH ANY THOUGHT OF CREATING ZOMBIE FLICKS BECAUSE AFTER FULCI IT WAS ALL FUCKING DOWNHILL.
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was that there was endless hammering, all through the fucking movie
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Too bad, you missed a really good movie. In a lot of ways, it was better than the original.
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My bad, I thought that was one of Goblins stable.
"DOOO DOOO DOOO" Squisssshhh! "AHHHH MY EYE!!!" -
I'm going to fucking kill myself if anyone calls me for tech support today. I'm supposed to be a designer and I have been basically doing free tech support full-time for the past week.
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shitty idea
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How do I turn off my pop up blocker?BANG....thud
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You guessed it... tech support. I honestly feel trapped, like I will never escape my obligation to help family members do the MOST BASIC FUCKING THINGS on their computer. This time someone needed me to walk them through signing up for a Windows Live account... because that's so fucking complicated.
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My monitor is black, what should I do?
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..but it had the distinction of having a music score that was good, but totally inapropriate for a sci-fi/horror picture. I love the music score, but it seemed like it was made for an adventure/action picture, maybe something pulpish. The main theme has been borrowed many times for car commercials, football highlight compilations, etc., etc. It's kinda funny.
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I already killed myself.
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Very thoughtful reply, M. Vader, and I know what you're saying. In the context of so much cruelty theatrics leading up to the lovely Ms. Byrne's demise, it didn't seem all that jarring to me. And to everyone who thought _28 Weeks Later_ was simply a series of scenes that existed simply to move the narrative forward quickly...well, my immediate response, after "WTF???" is: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA &c. Name me one film in the last 25 years that's NOT true of! No fair mentioning Tarkovsky, Tarr, &c. -- I mean mainstream films that will appear at your multiplex, not on order from Facets. I also have zero problem with the "carrier" storyline, which will undoubtedly come back to bite several others as and if _28 Months Later_ ever comes to pass. And, uh, Robert Carlyle was the head of the facility, not a janitor. Small plot point, I admit, still: retard. And Solanine, in re: Zombie Shark jumping the dad or whatevs: see above in re: "WTF??" It's perfect to have a kiss by that cowardly bastard prove to be his undoing. Where's the shark? Its subsequent jumping?
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Can't overemphasize how exquisite the original _NOTLD_ remastering by Anchor Bay is. I remember watching so many crappy dupes of dupes of ghost-y, scratchy prints of _Night_ over the years, and to see the high-contrast 35mm black and white imagery as it was intended was a revelation -- it's like a freaking Bergman film, albeit one with slightly more intra-family cannibalizing than _Through a Glass Darkly_. Along those lines, damned if the trailer to _Survival_ doesn't make the flick look gorgeous, as well. Look at _Bruiser_, _Land_, _Diary_ -- something's happened whereby George is making the best-looking, worst films of his career now...
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Did we see the same fucking trailer?
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to editing. They're trying to edit so it looks like an action picture (to compete with the new millenium zombies of the dawn remake), and none of Romero's films have been that action oriented.
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Tony Todd kicked ass in the Ben role.
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duanejones, are you Irish? Not meaning any disrespect if you're not (I also think 28 WEEKS is a fine film), but I just heard an Irish accent in my head when I read your post.
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had the best zombie effects. The one thats folded up on the lawn and the pale super skinny one. Pat Tallman(?) was a better Barbara. The actors and extras all did a fairly consistent 'zombie' as well. Still don't quite like the ending vs. the originals end, and Cooper was too instantly unlikable. And the kid shooting the pumps was just stupid.The sounds of constant hammering were what drew the zombies to them.
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...to the bad dirctor.
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...and 100% drunk. Which, I suppose, makes me 150% Irish. Ba-dum-dum. But, sure and I don't need to drink to see wide shots of sunlit island vistas, plays of various shades of green in forests/camouflage and exceptionally well-composed frames as gorgeous. So, tell me, MidMeat, what fucking trailer did YOU watch? I don't doubt _Survival_ will suck -- how could it not? -- but I'm glad I didn't opine on how un-cheesy the dialogue and performances seemed in the aforementioned trailer. You can't judge a film by its trailer, the loveliness of the shots featured therein notwithstanding...And, oh, hell, here I go back on my word in re: commenting on Romero today, but it must be stated, and clearly -- the 1990 _Night_, while surprising well directed by Tommy S., sucked 275,986 semen-marinated donkey penises of unusually wide girth. I thought you knew! Sorry. I'll never presume your knowledge of demonstrable facts again.
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Duane ah t'be sure. That's the 150%. Good on ya. Fuck the ijats. You an me eh? I like you!
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I can judge the movie on the trailer because there is a fair amount of bad dialogue delivered by bad actors with bad oirish accents in a stupid premise. Are those scenes not in the movie? Please, though, feel free to point out any "gorgeous" shots.
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is pretty good and pretty damn creepy, we don't need any more remakes after that
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Found it unwrapped on my DVD shelves. Decided to pop it in since the sun's going down. I'm about 25 minutes in...
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I guess a few years ago I went on a real DVD buying binge because I'm always finding movies I didn't even realize I have, still wrapped in the retail cellophane.
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You know, I saw that thing a long time ago, and while it doesn't hold a candle to the original, I do remember having the serious hots for the short-haired redhead lead, Pat whatever-her-name's. Pretty damned fine in an angular sort of way.
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Way better than I remember. Also a lot less hammering than I remember. I love how focussed the movie is. No extra fat whatsoever. Personally I would have gone with Barbara's idea of just walking the 5 miles into town.
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firecrotch myself.
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Longer hair.
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Former stuntwoman and renegade pyschic on Bab5.
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Sep 17, 2009 10:29:19 PM CDT
"I don't like to feel like I am the one killing her"
by nasty in the pasty
Reminds me of that HORRIFYINGLY disturbing scene in Strange Days, where we view a woman being murdered through the eyes of her killer...but he's feeding what HE sees through HER eyes through a head-thingy as he does it, so she essentially sees her own death through her killer's eyes. That shit fucked me up for DAYS afterwards.
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When the end music started I thought "damn this is what zombie movie music is all about." It should sound sort of like the instruments have been smashed and then re-assembled, musical but sort of wrong and clashing with itself. I could hear the inspiration for some of the L4D music. I also love the imagery accompanying it, an artsy montage that ping-pongs between red-tinged stills of the rednecks, and Barbara's newly steeled eyes.
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And she was still way tougher than Johnny. Tnny Todd & Pat Tallamn were the glue to this remake. Everyone else was expendable - and fans were hoping for their demise. Cooper was an over exaggerated jerk and Johnny looked good breaking his fall with his head and galsses. And he still got beat up by one Zombie... Even Shaun (Simon Pegg) was tougher than him.
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Sep 18, 2009 5:20:07 AM CDT
I could hear the inspiration for some of the L4D music.
by the amazing g
hell yeah, glad I'm not the only one that noticed that
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Resurrect Angus Scrimm's character the tall man from phantasm and he could be responsible for starting a zombie plague from his dimension. Aww fuck it, just remake phantasm with a decent budget and good actors.
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I pointed out three. Try reading things before puking out your moronic opinions about them, crazy as it must sound to you. Any support of the 90's _Night_ whatsoever destroys your OWN credibility, quite apart from whatever else you so very clearly demonstrate by an exceedingly mature flame war in a talkback. And, gracious, hope this didn't ramble too much for your small mind.
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...the first round's on me!
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Wake me up when the lazy Zombie wave is over. No way I'm stayin' awake for it.
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you probably masturbated to the last two romero pieces of shit also, doesn't make you cool or any kind of film savvy.
The trailer was shit, the acting is shit, the writing is shit and the direction looks like some 80s VHS garbage.
Sorry, your master and liege made a couple of great movies thirty years ago and hasn't been relevant since.
Keep sucking his cock, though, and putting down the '90 version, as you can see, it's not popular at all, you fucking retard. -
...and your wholesale inability to repsond to anything I've WRITTEN shows what one sad dipshit fratgirl you truly are. Have I said I like Romero? Did I not say _Survival_ would suck? Does it matter? Trick questions for the meathead numbnutz. Just because you only hear yourself and can't respond to logically presented arguments doesn't change the fact that every time you look in the mirror from now until the day you die, you're looking at a pathetic fucking retard. That's your problem -- it will never be mine. You'll undoubtedly respond in an equally bran-dead manner and present yourself worldwide for the know-nothing imbecile you clearly are. Spare me, and us all, from what we already know only too well. Thanks in advance. >Yawn<...
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from the looks of it!
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"yayyyyy"!
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