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Harrison Ford On INDY 5: "I'll Be Very Happy To Put The Costume On Again"!
Beaks here...
Though Shia LaBeouf and producer Frank Marshall have gone on record about a fifth installment in the INDIANA JONES franchise (with talk of Spielberg having "cracked the story"), I was inclined to take their comments as a whole lot of wishful thinking until we heard something definitive from one of the big three.
Well, rejoice. It's for real. Here's Harrison Ford talking to the French newspaper Le Figaro about the status of INDY 5:
"The story for the new Indiana Jones is in the process of taking form. Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and myself are agreed on what the fifth adventure will concern, and George is actively at work. If the script is good, I'll be very happy to put the costume on again."
So Spielberg cracked the story, and now George is "actively at work". Does this mean George is going solo as a screenwriter? I sure hope so. I also hope Spielberg's positive experience with performance capture on TINTIN means we'll get our first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location. This would be like a dream come true. Also, since the story will most likely be set in the early 1960s, I think I speak for Indy fans everywhere when I utter these two words: Profumo scandal.
Thanks to AICN reader "The Moseph" for passing this along.
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That didn't seem to be an issue for him last time, given that he appeared in the film.
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He's just coming up with a "plot," which is probably actually just a list of characters, the macguffin, and whatever traps he feels must be included.
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This time use quality CGI and write a GOOD story first, not just a nostalgia gimmick. Please don't include Shia, have him die in a motorcycle wreck or something.
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I'll take as much more Indy as they feel like giving us.
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"...I'll be happy to pocket another $20 million plus gross points."
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Ah, old school Lucas and Spielberg fans. Be it Star Wars or Indiana Jones, nothing is funnier than seeing them run smack into the phenomenon known as the "Nostalgia Filter," as though they'd never heard of it before.
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Great...George Lucas is taking his killshot from the grassy knoll to put the death blow to my favorite movie character...Fuck!!
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... I wouldn't be surprised if they just went back to Koepp. I reserve the right to get excited about this, though, when/if Edgar Wright is enlisted.
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Sep 14, 2009 3:59:27 PM CDT
"I'm also up for Mr. Burns in the live action Simpsons movie"
by takingscorpioscalls
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I somewhat wish the movies would not need to change their in-movie decade due to an aging actor, but that would require... I don't know. Bondian actor changes. And I don't think the public would buy it at the time. Not that I don't respect Harrison Ford's work.
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Also, frankly, I never cared for Indy. Did nothing for me. Didn't see Indy 4. Won't see Indy 5.
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Seriously, I mean Ford's wrinkles were so massive in high def for Indy 4 they should have gotten their own screen credit.
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Really. Do we still like these people? After everything they've done to us?
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This is a direct consequence of too many fucktards having no fucking taste and no fucking restraint. Fucking paying to see some Crystal Skull bullshit... god damn people.
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And preclude it with an apology for the first attempt.
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Lucas has turned him and Spielberg both to the darkside of mediocrity. They care not about quality, only sodomizing the cracks of your wallet.
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Hard to imagine. Berlin? Cuba? Vietnam? Space?
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Seriously, the cheap-ass CGI was so out of place and distracting, the script could've been friggin Shakespeare and the movie would've sucked. Learn from your mistakes Spielberg and don't let Lucas push this digital shit on you. Back to the roots, baby!
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Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan Darabont or Kasdan
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is just doing this to recoup his lost Madoff money.
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Hey Lucas/Speilberg, you not see that dead-on South Park or what?
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Part 4 was beyond bad. Any statements to the contrary are intellectually dishonest. Part 5 is unnecessary.
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So I'm all for a part V where they would totally make-up for the lack of real menace, Indy's passivism, bad CGI, too much over the topness and childfriendlyness that menaced part IV
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If "the Informant" manages to revitalize his dead carreer?
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So I'm all for a part V where they would totally make-up for the lack of real menace, Indy's passivism, bad CGI, too much over the topness and childfriendlyness that plaged part IV
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If "the Informant" manages to revitalize his dead carreer?
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/sigh
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And the further Indiana Jones strays from the '30s and the mythic/religious stuff, the worse it gets. I'm more excited about a Tomb Raider reboot at this point.
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To keep with the alien theme of KOTCS.
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...but it sure smells good!
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1) Indy needs to shoot people dead.
2) Indy needs to use his whip more than once.
3) Indy needs to drink.
4) Shia needs to die.
5) Biblical Macguffin
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Dean Stockwell to play head Nazi.
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roughly the first 1/3 of Indy 4. I understand George had a different ending lined up, but they toned it down. I would watch Indy 5.
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Have it set before the last one by a couple of years. No Mutt. No Marion. Heck, even get Sean Connery for a small part. Would love him to see play this role again. They had Temple set before Raiders. They can do it again.
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Did Ford learn nothing from the end of Last Crusade???
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There were way too many useless characters in KOTCS. Let's see Indy being Indy. If Stallone can pull it off with Rambo (2008), why can't Ford?
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.. that last one was freakin' excruciating. If they're not going to be serious and actually give a shit about the legacy, I wish they'd just stop... or get somebody who remembers and respects the first 3 to do some kind of young Indy prequels. The last one should have ended "Evil Dead 2" style with Indy being transported back to pre-WW2 Germany. "I hate these guys.".. zoom out... credits. I kid.
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Besides a lot of it being unneccesary, how can a Speilberg/Lucas film have such inferior CGI work? Especially when WETA is schooling them with low budget fare such as DISTRICT 9. I guess it comes down to the person stamping it for approval. "It doesn't have to be that good." - Lucas
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Wasn't he in a dress in every Quantum Leap ep.
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It's my least favorite of the four flicks but it was a fun movie with some really good action sequences. Most of the criticisms are either hyperbole or they seem to forget how silly Crusade was too. It was Indy at 65 and they pulled it off. Also, Ford looks old because he's on his way to 70. Regardless, he was in amazing shape in Crystal Skull so really, lighten up. Most guys his age look frail or are massive fatasses. Ford looks like he can still kick ass.
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STEVEN AND CO realised how fucked up Indy 4 was and how badly the fans need and will get an AWESOME INDY 5!
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I look forward to the red dot on map flying scene moving in a 100 mile radius circular motion round Los Angeles. Cause Indy's all about the travel, isn't he? Isn't he? He is though, isn't he? Isn't he? He's all about the travel.
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You are right on target but missed one point: PRACTICAL EFFECTS OR ATLEAST SMARTER USE OF CG.
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The only 'problem' with Indy 4 was that there were aliens in it. People get freaked out by aliens. I don't know why. Harry believes in them. However, I do enjoy the Supernatural MacGuffin's. The Indy supernatural themes are no doubt part of the foundation for the magnificent TV series Supernatural.
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Harrisson still looked great, the entire film looked great, but the script made Indy way to passive and kid friendly. Gone was his sarcastic humor ("No Ticket") and he only killed one enemy in the entire movie (part with the toxic arrows)
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My Avatar fucked eyeballs will need it.
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Lucas as a solo screenwriter, performance capture and Profumo scandal... Wow, that's what i call bad taste.
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Is to have Indy be that old grizzled adventurer I hoped he'd be in Indy 4. He's settled down with Marion until he discovers he has to race AGAINST Shia to get a biblical artefact of some sort. Of course they'd reconcile in the end, but the bulk of the movie would separate them.
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Why? Because thats how old popcorn tastes. Spielberg would have to use all his powers. I want my Indy working alone, dealing with age and something very serious. I want rollicking stunt work and a travelogue that makes me want to quit my job and jump on a steamer ship. But even if they nail the perfect old-Indy story and film it can't possibly win our hearts back unless Steven really really tries.
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WTF...tell me you didn't write that without a whole lot of sarcasm in your heart.
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The people who misinterpretated Beak's report... make me smile.
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Make it so!!
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They all blew it by thinking they could pass Crapful Skullf*$k as an actual movie more worthy than a theatre's men's room at the end of a Friday or Saturday night.
I'll be happy to skip this # 5 mothaf&$ka' which Spielberg and Co. probably never meant to do until they saw the Crapskull F&#kshow they plastered for Indy (who I've also come to disrespect; character, too, after the diarrhea mess of # 4).
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the time is NOW!
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Sep 14, 2009 4:25:15 PM CDT
"first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location."
by jmoe
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He had nothing to do with Lost World, and that had the same goofiness that cropped up in KOTCS.
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I defended Crystal Skull, but it had to have been his worst film since Hook. At this point he should be getting in his late master phase, this just feels like senility.
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"I also hope Spielberg's positive experience with performance capture on TINTIN means we'll get our first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location. This would be like a dream come true". Worst thing Ive ever heard. Why dont we just make the whole thing CG.....and have Dreamworks do it....with a talking fuckin dog. CG sets when used in small doses are good....but a whole movie....Cmon....what happened to filmmaking!
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Sep 14, 2009 4:26:43 PM CDT
"first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location."
by jmoe
didn't that make the 1 - 3 great movies, because they actually had PRACTICAL LOCATIONS? I want to see real dust on Indy, not computer dust on a sound stage blue screen . . .
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Indy learns of a group of men and women acting like superheroes. He goes in and kicks their ass.
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Swinging his burning electric guitar at Indy to stop him from summoning up the devil from hell to kill everyone at Woodstock. Money in the bank man!
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Sep 14, 2009 4:30:35 PM CDT
"first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location."
by lockesbrokenleg
Um, they filmed at a wearhouse in Mexico, the college was a real set. The diner was a real set. The camp was a real set.
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to be as abysmal as 4,you should better leave the costume in your closet.and no,dont you fucking dare to give it to shia.
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Reboot.
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If I was Harrison Ford, I'd be running around with hot stupid girls screaming, "Who do you wanna fuck tonite, Indiana Jones or Han Solo, bitches!!". Instead, he has to pork that skeleton Calista Flockhart and pray that he gets a picture deal so he can spend some time away from her. What a shame.
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The script for the fourth Indy was not good. And you did it anyway. So shut the fuck up.
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Evil brother who has kidnapped Sallah, to convince his long estranged brother to help him find Excalibur, in a chase around the world leading the Jones brothers ( and Mutt) to the lost city of Atlantis whilst dodging zombie Nazis led by a lunatic german doctor.
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says Ford.
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Why would NOT using any practical locations be a good thing?
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I'm stealing it for my Facebook page.
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Indy 4 was a waste of time for Spielberg, but this is a COMPLETE waste of time. He should be doing interesting, sophisticated, challenging films at this point in his career. Alfred Hitchcock made three of his best films in his 60s - North By Northwest, Psycho, and The Birds. It's time to put Dr. Jones to rest.
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any black people in KOTCS. It's racist to him.
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shameless bastard!
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Time travel. You know it. I know it. Preferably of the HG Wells sort, ends up back in the 30s. That would be teh awes0me.
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please don't have 100 shots of indy's disgusting, glistening chest. that shit bothered me.
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... He's gonna me MILLIONS! And the movie's gonna suck! Fuck Harrison Ford, Steven Spielberg & George Lucas. Fuck 'em all!
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And the George Lucas comment. Beaks just wanted to see veins bulge and eyes pop out in the TalkBack. It's how he gets his jollies.
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hmm i dont remember the talkbacker with whom i had the dispute about how a big sold out,spielberg has become.but there you go,he and lucas dont seem to stop milking the franchise until ford dies from old age.
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Sep 14, 2009 4:43:11 PM CDT
If it ends with Indy naked in a closet with a whip wrapped aroun
by lanemyersclassic
I'll be there! Otherwise, I won't even waste a DVD rental.
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Cameo by Chris Lloyd and Michael J. Fox. Bring back the 80s.
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practical location with irony.well i hope so,otherwise he is an idiot.
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What about making it a 2 part epic like Laurence of Arabia where he saves an entire civilization and becomes a mythical hero after banishment by his profession. Something huge, exotic and sweeping. I mean Raiders was the beginning of that. Never followed through with any of the sequels.
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The first half of the movie will be a Young Indy story. Then towards the end it will go back to the present day.
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The time travel MacGuffin presents all sorts of interesting options.
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Sep 14, 2009 4:45:15 PM CDT
Indiana Jones and the Curse of the Autoerotic Sphinx.
by lanemyersclassic
per my other post.
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He looks and sounds like a younger Harrison Ford, and he's a better actor. Get Dennis Quaid do it. Also, don't let Lucas, Spielberg, or Frank Darabont anywhere near it (in case you didn't know - it was Darabont who was responsible for 59.8% of the shittyness in the last movie).
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Cameo by Yoda and E.T. Think of the merchandising. Throw in some Ewoks. It'll be a bonanza!
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....will have less CGI....less hokey moments like clumsy Indy knocking over bicycles....less Shia....and end up a more satisfying effort to take away the bad taste of the last one!
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Indy turns to the left..."Take that fuckers!"...turns to the right..."Burn you Nazi scum!"...Indy breaks control on scooter and it just spins in circles spitting out flame..."FUUUUUUCK!" Now that's a trailer.
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No where near the level of Raiders. But a perfectly fine popcorn movie. Could I imagine something ten times better? Sure. Did I enjoy it? Was it worth watching. Yup. Will I watch it again sometimes? Probably.
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Sep 14, 2009 4:49:21 PM CDT
you know you're old as fuck if Dennis Quaid looks/sounds
by jackknifed_juggernaut
like a younger version of yourself.
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and there's nothing to watch but Wheel of Fortune and Indy 4...eh. Nevermind. I'd probably watch Wheel of Fortune.
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Loved Indy4 the haters are just bitter middle aged basement dwelling trolls upset that 4 was not an exact ROTLA clone.
Lucas will only ever do an outline for the story concept he never ever does the Indy screenplay just reads and makes notes for Spielberg (who choses the screenwriter) to agree with then when their happy Ford gets to have his input and they compromise until all 3 agree.
Thats the way the other 4 were made and 5 will be no different so CGI will be minimal and majority of the sets will be real not virtual.
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I've got nothing. But for some reason, that seems to me like it should be funny.
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Sep 14, 2009 4:50:40 PM CDT
why doesnt Spielberg and George hand it off to someone else?
by awepittance
Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi were not directed by George Lucas and everybody agrees Empire is the best star wars movie, so why the fuck is Lucas now in charge of this shit? when he puts his hands on stuff it literally gets ruined.
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Sep 14, 2009 4:50:57 PM CDT
It was a cold morning in Marin when George rolled out of bed...
by conspiracy
it looked over at the Chocolate princess still lying asleep in his bed, a small quantity of his aged spunk was still caked to the suptle dark brown flesh of her ass, dried there for hours since the Viagra fueled fuckin he gave her last night. He stumbled to the shitter...his mind hazy, but already he could tell that feeling was welling up inside yet again...the need to fuck, and fuck hard. "Perhaps rape is really what I should call it"; he mused as he stared in the mirror and stroked his growing goiter. George had lived like this for years, money, power, sexual devience that would put him away were he a normal man; but only rarely had his lust, his need to control, to demean, to dominate been sated; and now that hunger was growing in him again. He walked back through the bedroom..his onxy lover still supine in bed; "Good", he thought, "but nowhere near the fucking I gave those fanboys with the prequels and Indy 4". He collapsed in a chair...mindlessly rolling his first blunt of the day while sipping his breakfast of Hennesy...his mind raced, he knew the beast must be sated, he knew no female could handle this need. He picked up the phone...dialing the one friend he had in this world that understood this dark desire...this need to destroy and hurt..."Hello", croaked the half asleep voice on the line..."Steven" he replied, "this is George...I have an Idea for Indy 5" he whispered like a pedophile offering a child candy..as a smile crept upon his lips..
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This is the man who gave us the Fridge moment and a young Darth Vader saying "Yippee"
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...THE HAT!!!!
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Anyone who has read the complete making of Indiana jones will understand.
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Talk about a movie that could have used a Special Edition. Like one in which that creepy ducksuit was replaced with a CGI Howard that looked like Howard looks in the comics.
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Lucas-you suck.always have,always will.Harrsion Ford-you used to rock, but sadly, age HAS gotten to you and in another 6 years-you'll look as frail as Sean Connery did in the League.And Speilberg, you sir-are damn talented. I will see more of your films, yes indeed.
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= INDY 4 and (Most Definitely) 5.
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Thank you
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Sep 14, 2009 4:55:48 PM CDT
I guess the last one "didn't count" and they're calling for
by aliendragqueen
a "do over". Plus they want to gross another 750 million dollars.
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Yes, I laughed.
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Star Wars. American Graffiti. The impetus behind Raiders of the Lost Ark.What the hell happened? I got no idea.
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As long as Ford and Allen are alive get them in to record lines, etc. It would be as good as the Clone Wars.
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'The Last Crusade' had an awesome ending. Indy, Marcus, Sallah and Henry all riding out into the sunset. "You were named after the dog! Hahahahahahaha!" If there were no Indy flicks after that I'd still be a happy little viewer. But of course...Chic-ching $$$.
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Sep 14, 2009 4:57:12 PM CDT
This NEEDS to be Spieberg sucking our cocks for forgiveness
by onin solstice
I have to believe Spielberg looked at Crystal Skull and said "shit, that came out bad." I hope, or pray, that Lucas comes up with a more mystical premise. And lets someone else do the writing. Seriously, is there an ointment that can burn David Koepp off of Spielbergs testicles? Also, this has to be old school action, minimal CGI, actual explosions and more scenes of Indy kicking ass, who cares if he's 70, he's Indy and no one fucks with him. So let us see him take out enemies. And for God sakes let him use a damn gun again, don't pussy out Spielberg, let Indy do his thing. And some whip action, it's not just for show, let him use it! One last thing, bring back the Nazi's. In some way, maybe an old Nazi archeologist rival of Indy's hiding in europe somewhere is tapped by the soviets to help recover Jesus' jock strap or something. Then we can have a spiteful Indy, instead of the married and tame Indy Lucas wants to give us. Come on Spielberg, you owe us a great ass movie for all the monkey-swinging shit you fed us.
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Was it the weakest in the series? Probably (Although Last Crusade isn't a big improvement). But as a summer movie it was still very entertaining, and actually had some well staged action scenes that had build and you could follow. I mean, after terminator salvation, gi joe,and transformers 2, its a bit harsh to call Indy IV total shit. It maybe doesn't live up to expectations fully, but its light-years above most of the summer movies coming out lately.
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They have to find a way. I gave Crystal Skull a pass in no small part because of Karen Allen. Bring back Sallah, I'll give the shitty script for this new movie a pass, too.
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is good Indy. What do you naysayers want? More shit with Brendan Frasier? Come on now!
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"I sure hope so!" I love it. Fanboys, eat Beaks' sarcasm!!!!
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Obviously, that was not the criteria for it the last time. Let;s be honest, Harrison: It has nothign to do with the script. It's all about the Benjamins. If they're "good", he'll do it.
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Sep 14, 2009 4:59:45 PM CDT
Howard the Duck's head sketched me out as a kid...
by jackknifed_juggernaut
shit was fucking massive.
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So you say, sir!
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The rolling of the blunt sold me.
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Please tell me there is an obit coming?
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You must be joking. Allen was AWFUL in KOCS.
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COME ON DOWN!
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Sep 14, 2009 5:03:25 PM CDT
Conspiracy... hilarious post. I also like the "Dear Harrison Fo
by randysavage
post. very funny.
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When New Expendables Footage has been Leaked!
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Maybe he's not such a sniveling little prick after all.
I found Skull in a bargain bin the other day and for the first time realized what a complete piece of trash it is, from beginning to end. I think many of us gave it way more credit than it deserved just because we were so happy to see Indy onscreen again. It was novel at the time but now I realize why so many people hated it with a passion. -
one of the best adventure games ever,and easily a great indiana jones adventure.JUST MAKE IT LUCA$.
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Everyone complains how fake the CGI looked, but if you watch the featuretes on the BluRay (may be on the DVD as well) it shows how the pulled off almost most of the work with practical effects. You can't blame fake-looking CGI when it wasn't even CGI to begin with.
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Unless Lucas wipes his ass with a blank piece of paper and hands it to Ford, I don't see how he would turn it down. Of course, Lucas used that ass-wipe script for Phantom Menace.
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She was awfully used. IMO. But I give 'em a pass just for trying. Love me some Marion. Points off for no Abner Ravenwood, no finding a way to complete the circle. And Sallah would have helped. Loved that Allen was back. Made me forget the scene were Shia was parodying Brando on the motorcycle. Nuke the fridge, say some. Shia trying to Brando, say I.
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i am still laughing
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Sep 14, 2009 5:06:31 PM CDT
Fool me once, shame on me...fool me twice...uh...fool me...
by flickapoo
...IF YOU FOOL ME YOU CAN'T FOOL ME AGAIN.
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I'm hoping for time travel. Shows how old Indy goes to save Short Round's parents and accidentally ends up killing them. It'll be great.
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Tivo'd it in HD and just couldn't make it through...horrible...worse than I thought it was the first time.
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...and I mean NOBODY defended Indy 4 more than I did. I fought practically everybody who talked shit about the project on these boards.
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...everyone's devastated.
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Not pictured: glory.
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Which is the better saga? I can never chose one or the other.
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Sep 14, 2009 5:09:20 PM CDT
...no, don't try to talk me out of it. I've made up my mind.
by flickapoo
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of value to a talkbalk, and...and...yup, still waiting.
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Indy IV was actually a fun popcorn ride. The biggest problem is that it had a terrible ending (stolen directly from Total Recall, no less). In Raiders, Indy didn't really save the day, but we weren't used to horrific effects, and it was clear the Nazi's died from opening the Ark. But 99% of the time, the protagonist needs to kick some ass and save the day. In Indy IV, he got captured, and the villian got what they wanted. All Indy did was further the villian's goals.
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See, the Brando thing never bothered me because I figured the dweeby kid was just emulating one of his movie heroes of the time -- and poorly. I never saw it as a wink from Spielberg to the audience.
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And it was just about as bad as I expected, so I enjoyed it. I wasn't bitterly disappointed, like I was with Watchmen, say, or Phantom Menace, because I was stupid and got myself way over-hyped for movies that just couldn't deliver on my crazy expectations.Trying not to do that with Tron: Legacy Code--or Tron: Cobol, the title I had hoped they'd end up going with. I'm very hyped on that movie, and I know I'm doomed to be disappointed if I start getting too excited. With Indy 5, I expect it to be a shabby immitation of the original movies, and I'm guessing I won't be disappointed, and will enjoy them as the big-budget, popcorn films that spit on nostalgia and rape our childhoods that they are.
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Bask in the awesomeness:
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Bootleg-Trailer-For-The-Expendables-Hits-The-Web-14764.html -
Indiana Jones and the Massive Apology
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Didn't Moses use his staff to crack open rocks to produce water in the desert?
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Expendables TB> Indy Fap TB
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on here. Yep, still waiting.
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that post was fantastic. Perhaps you can also portray the way Bayformers was concocted?
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I CAN DIE NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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Sep 14, 2009 5:14:36 PM CDT
HOLD ON HARRISON IMA LET YOU FINISH!
by supercowbell5thecowbellhasspoken
BUT CHRISTOPHER NOLAN MADE ONE OF THE GREATEST FILMS OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!
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Sep 14, 2009 5:15:08 PM CDT
...so the rape victim is willing to squeal like a pig again?...
by flickapoo
...for fun and profit?
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Couldn't stop laughing. Cool story bro.
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First Howard, then you get the freaks dressed up in Plushies & Furries costumes masturbating each other on some cheap hotel room floor. Maybe that's how Lucas writes his crap.
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Don't mention the NTF phrase ever again! Those dumb fucking cunts from *that site* may take it as an invitation to run over here and start spamming like they normally do.
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I'm going to like that movie, I think. Stallone is enjoying something of a renaissance. I just hope Rambo 5 includes time travel. Rambo could set all sort of old wars right.
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We a few people, including myself, have recently expressed "liking" for conspiracy's post a little ways up. Surely, we could all read that and agree it's "good". But, seriously, Ther's at least one or two nutters up there i ntheTB who actually seemed to have liked Indy IV. So, there's your proof that "people" said they liked something. AICN is a microcosm of the world- and the world will never wholly agree on anything.
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Damn... that made me laugh harder than I have in a LOOOONG time. Thank you, sir. Still laughing... just the use of the word 'supine' in that post makes you my new literary hero.
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Sep 14, 2009 5:18:08 PM CDT
As long as Indy jumps out of an appliance I AM THERE!
by lockesbrokenleg
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Amazed that a new movie site concocted at KOTCS could would have such a crappy, hard to read layout. AICN is a classic. If they wanted to rip of AICN--it's a free country--they could have started by looking at the color scheme. And the type faces. And making the articles, you know, readable.
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And he's going to be running around, run across a refrigerator, and look it up and down then give a little negative headshake, ala Christopher Reeves looking at the public telephone in Superman: The Movie. I'm counting on it.
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and Indy just happens to know what extra ingredients you need to become a full-fledged psychic. This follows what the Russian research in Indy IV. Lot's of possibilities, and great music too.
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...for wanting to see The Expendables so much that I watched that bootleg trailer instead of waiting for a proper version. Still, the movie looks fucking awesome.
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Would play out like colonial First Blood: Colonial Times Rambo vs American Revolution. Tag line: Welcome to the (Tea) party, pal! Rambo vs Spanish-American War: Rambo and Teddy become the first Rough Riders! Rambo vs The Mexican War. Rambo is the Original Old, Rough, and Ready!
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http://www.destroythismovie.com/index.php/film-attesi/the-expendables/253-expendables-teaser.html
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i got so fucking thrilled with the expendables trailer.now give us the official release please.
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http://www.destroythismovie.com/index.php/film-attesi/the-expendables/253-expendables-teaser.html
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That'll be awesome. Can't wait!
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Sep 14, 2009 5:24:20 PM CDT
Hey losers guess what, Indy 4 was not Lucas's fault but Spielber
by thewirebitches
The story was solid. He did his fricken part. Spielberg dropped the ball about 3/4ths through the movie. The opening was ok, the chase threw the college was awesome, the only truly indy set piece in the whole movie because it was done for real in a real location. The chase threw the jungle is where it got bad.
I'm hoping they understand the last film wasn't so great and there eager to make up for it. Hopefully.
But to bash either one of Lucas, Spielberg or Ford is just down right crazy. The movies they made, the characters they created, they get a pass if everything they make isn't the fucking holy grail.
Its like when a band comes out and you love there early stuff, and then a couple albums later you listen and realize there nothing there for you anymore. Be it creativity, changing of styles, they are not the same band you first fell in love with, just like you are not the same person who fell in love with them either. But why the hell do I try to talk sense into senseless posters. A Fools errand it is. -
Its being made because my teen son enjoyed KOTCS, and if they do in fact make #5, it will gross another 500 million worldwide. So cry, bitch, whine, scream, and snark all you want, nothing will stop Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford from making this for the money. And despite some flaws KOTCS still had some fun moments in there, thus making it better than most of the rotting turds filling theaters these days.
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"Does this mean George is going solo as a screenwriter? I sure hope so. I also hope Spielberg's positive experience with performance capture on TINTIN means we'll get our first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location. This would be like a dream come true." is that a joke beaks? what the fuck?! u want lucas to be the screenwriter?! u a cgi fest with no practical locations?! surely this is sarcasm... fucking unbelievable
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Or even the folks who wrote Temple of doom, anyone but George Lucas....
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And Spielberg phoned it in. Fortunately, a weak script and Spielberg phoning it in is better that Michael Bay working as hard as he ever has on any movie he's ever made.
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I'll see this... in hell.
No way Indy V with Harrison will ever see the light of a movie theatre. You can dig this comment up and pwn me with it if it ever comes to pass. It wont.
And Beaks... if your comments were serious then they were weak. If your comments were meant to be funny then they were weaker still. Either way mate you lose. Weak. -
How would a Lucas/Jackson/Spielberg production be? Pretty Damn cool.
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...trailer.
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Indy gets caught up in all kinds of mystical Norse mythology, culminating in an awesome supernatural meltdown in an ancient Nordic ice fortress.
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I said it before KOTCS, is he goes back to get the Ark of the Covenant and return it to where it was found.
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wtf sly? thats unforgivable
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And Temple of Doom. But the effect of those movies on the current generation is not what it was on my generation. She easily like KOTCS as much as Raiders. So . . . the market speaks.
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Its You..
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Not so much. And I don't know whose fault that was. It was a neutered Indiana Jones.
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Haha! I love how the that idiot Beaks was being sarcastic! I LOVED Indy 4 and hope this is fucking true!
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Just, no.
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They're both guilty.
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this time with more cgi,scifi,shia and monkeys.maybe some farts too,u know for the kids.in your theaters soon.dont miss it.
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...not an ACTUAL action flick from the 80's.
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Are you the same guy who kept saying that about Indy 4, too?
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The spear that pierced Jesus on the cross, gained magical squirly whirly timey whimey properties, is discovered by King Arthur and is then known as Excalibur. We learn of Indy's brother who disappeared searching for the spear, Samuel Jones ( Scott Bakula), he is back and a little bit hell bent on revenge. He blames Indy, and is working with crazed Nazi scientists who are reanimating corpses and adding primitive mechanical limbs.
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Yet everyone one of you complaining, bitter cunts will lay your money down to go see it.
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That's simply TERRIBLE.
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Sep 14, 2009 5:34:59 PM CDT
You Mean?: "I Be Happy To Get Another Big Fat Paycheck!!!"...
by media messiah
...in order to finance my flying hobby, so I can buy another helicopter, and a plane or two!!!
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Transformers 2, Star Trekwars and Twilight I PRAY for another Indiana Jones film.
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...Cause making money is bad....fucking commies.
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since the Hellboy comics (the first ones) were,like indy, one of the best tributes on pulp fiction.
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We're all fucking doomed.
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It's at the bottom of my netflix que and it could easily be replaced by Ong Bok. So is it even worth seeing???
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Did you have to mention the ST words? This TB is now properly fucked. AssLives will be in here in no time and it will turn into a Star Trek/Michael Bay hate-fapping orgy.
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This would have sent my friends and I into countless geeky hours of excited speculation on casting, story etc. Now I just react with fearful indifference (while secretly hoping that it happens and it rocks as opposed to being Tomb Raider 4 with an old guy playing Lara Croft). Seriously, no Koepp - bring in an edgy writer - give the story some balls. While I am not a Shia hater, I think he belongs in light weight crap like Transformers, he isn't nearly badass enough to play Indy's son. Sigh. Spilt milk.
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The episode of "Southpark" was NOT making fun of the quality of the movie,(I saw an interview with both guys) they were making fun of the doucher fanboys and the few who reacted like screaming fucktard babies.
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Indy fans are NOT necessarily sci-fi fans ! Come on now....NO ALIENS ! As I was watching 4 I actually asked my boyfriend if Spielberg was a scientologist ! That movie was dumber than a bag of nails !!!?!!!!
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My apologies. I'd forgotten about Asimov's psychic ability to pick up on the dreaded ST words. Counting down to his appearance now...
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It worked for 007. Why couldn't it work now, get some other actor in to play Indy and fill in some of the "missing" adventures from the 30's. I see no reason this wouldn't work. Keep Lucas out of the picture and you would stand a decent chance of getting a good movie.
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I came up with that in ten seconds, my point was I could come up with a better story than KOTCS, I agree not the best name. Unless we call Indy's brother, Alabama Jones!
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...was utter shit. A disgrace. I regret not walking out of the cinema after the nuked fridge sequence. I will not be seeing part 5.
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We all know it
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Sep 14, 2009 5:49:32 PM CDT
Indy goes to the moon, leading to aliens at Woodstock!
by scriptgirl_nipples
Indy 5 is so gonna suck.
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here is the order
part I - part III - part IV - Part II
any one who says that temple of doom is better than crystal skull is full of shit or a dumb ass! -
TOD fucking owns KOCS.
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Temple of Doom is amazing.
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Unless they hire you to write it....! Bwahahahahaha !!!
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temple of doom is a grade z horror movie at best. that chick who stars in it (the one that speilberg was fucking) ruined that movie. i wanted to slap that bitch every time she was on screen.
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Jim Wynorski beat you to it with Alabama Jones and the Busty Crusade!
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Is it some kind of joke? It's not very funny. Maybe if you were all obsessed with the guy who replaced Steve Guttenberg in the Police Academy movies.
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abbott and costello meet frankenstein
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Nope, TOD is beyond awesome.
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So it IS a good movie ! hahaha
Blah_Blah_Retard_Blah.... you're outnumbered buddy...Watch out ! -
People hate Crystal Skull, rewatch the cinematic abomanation of temple of dump!
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...from Indy being revealed from the light on the mine car with that pissed off "I'm gonna fuck all you Thuggees up" look up until Indy cracking the whip around Willie's waist - pure genius.
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how can you dislike crystal skull? you have to get past the nostalgia thing. temple of doom id un-watchable. i've tried recently and i can't finish it. temple of doom sucks
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Sep 14, 2009 5:56:15 PM CDT
good thing Van Damme opted out of the Expendables
by jackknifed_juggernaut
because even with him absent, that trailer reeked of Street Fighter: The Movie: II: Champion Edition.
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Sep 14, 2009 5:57:02 PM CDT
Indiana Jones and the Space Time Continuum Transfunctioner
by thepilgrim
A device whose mystery is only exceeded by its power.
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Because Doom is Spielberg firing on all cylinders. Check out the filmmaking, seriously. The staging is world-class.
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than temple of doom. cheap simpsons rip-off
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Nothing tops Raiders and nothing ever will !!! (Maniacal laughter followed by measly cough)
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...that scene is the single most badass Indy moment in the whole series.
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Your name says it all dear boy...
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I know I will get a hell of a lot of flack for this, but well, Speilberg didn't cut it with Indy 4.
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And cast Iggy Pop to play a mummy.
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the first Indy movie is the only good movie of that series. if you really look at the other three in the series, they are far, far down the ladder in terms of quality (compared to Raiders)
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you are very observant. (i love when people use my screen name to dis me. it's a trick to trap suckers)
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Its easily better than 3 and 4, and has probably the longest sustained sense of excitement out of all of them. The entire last 45 minutes of that movie is non-stop brilliant action film-making, and if you're too stupid to see that, sucks to be you.
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One of the best actors of all time, watch one series of quantum leap, any series, and you will see the most diverse acting range. Plus he was great in Star Trek, doesn't get enough kudos. Nuff said
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They're all good. Good storytelling. Good characters. Love them all. Yes, even Young Indy.
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If not being as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark was a crime, you could count the movies allowed to be released each year on one hand. If Harrison Ford is up for more, I'm there for no other reason than to see an incredibly fit senior citizen doing the same shit he was doing in his 30s and NOT looking like a total joke. You get to see that and you still bitch about the CGI?
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but, act I and II suck. and i'm sorry, but im not going to say a movie is good just because the third act chase seen is good.
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Whats left, honestly... Time Travel??? BTTF did this already with SS involved.
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Aww dude! I totally forgot about Harry's blubbering during Indy 4! I wonder if he kept it up through the whole movie.
"This warehouse is where you and your government have hidden all of your secrets, yes?"
Waaaaaahhhhhhh!
"Name's Mutt, Mutt Williams."
Waaaaaahhhhhhh!
"Somewhere your grandpa is laughing."
Booohooo*sob*Waaaaaahhhhhhh!
Dum da dum Dumm...waaaahhh!..dum ta dum...waaaaaahhh! -
Exactly.
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thats the new craze in motion entertainment. Vampires that is.
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so early on in the movie? Have him turn when they reach the Russian Camp.
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How in any way does Beaks sound 'bitter" here'? If anything he sounds unreasonably optimisitic. Lucas has a pretty awful track record as a screen writer, solo or otherwise. My interpretation is that Beaks thinks, for reasons I can't can't quite fathom, that Lucas is better writing solo than with collaborators. The Lucas of the 70ies and early 80ies was a substancially different auteur *than* (not "then" you illiterate bastards!) the Lucas of today. Back then he had the sense to hire writers better than himself.
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everyone loves to bash crystal skull (which i like), but everything negative that can be said about crystal skull can be said about temple of doom (which i don't like.)
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Sep 14, 2009 6:10:50 PM CDT
let Darrabont wri..hahaha ok i can't say that with a straight fa
by jettl93
seriously ever read his bloddy abortion of a script? it was like your little brother wanted to play with you and you just lket him to avoid getting yelled at from your mom
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Why not? Indy and the Crusade of the Raiders of the Doomed transylvanian's skull... Count moi in !
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I don't care what anyone says, that was some awesomely dark shit for television. Young Indy Vol 2 one of the best DVD purchases I ever made.
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"and now George is "actively at work". Does this mean George is going solo as a screenwriter? I sure hope so. "
You truly hope that Lucas is solo writing this? W..T..F?! Did you not see the Star Wars (ep1-3) movies he had total script say over as well as the last Indy flop? I hope he only partakes in any CGI they do and that's the extent of his contributions to this potential piece of corn riddled monkey shit. -
...and all that Kali-worshipping/voodoo stuff was good, and the opening sequence was great, and Kate Capshaw looked hot, and the insects/shrinking room sequence was good, and - I guess - the only thing I didn't like was the 'jumping out the plane in a dingy' moment (though it seems like an utterly realistic strategy compared to that 'hiding in a lead-lined fridge' stunt...)
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anyone who knows the internets knows they're a big epic fail(I'm trying to speak your language).
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Tbh right at this moment I would prefer a Lucas-only screenplay to another lame Koepp one. That's how desperate the situation is!! Hell, I'd even let Kevin Smith have a stab (at the script, not my asshole). Maybe they just need an editor with some balls, i.e. when they see stage directions like 'several monkeys swing along with Mutt through the trees' or whatever, he just puts a huge thick line right through that fucker. They should have given him a fear of heights or something. We can have COMEDY in Indy, the series is littered with it, but CGI monkeys ISN'T funny, if that's what they were going for. Better for Mutt to be shit-scared of heights, he's clinging to the tree then falls comedically, has to take out two bad guys in a cool way using only his wits, Indy style.
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It had a few stupid scenes, but overall it was an Indy movie. And people bemoaning "fake sets" don't know wtf they're talking about. Most of the sets were real. Watch the making of if you don't believe me.
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That no cookie!
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Don't get what people hate about it.
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Much respect, love your articles...but
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING SKULL?
Indy's the Beard's James Bond...Practicality's what makes Indy. Oh wait, you're joking? OK, Nevermind. -
Sep 14, 2009 6:21:42 PM CDT
Lucas, Speilberg and Ford: a sloppy gangbang of a once great fra
by hamster factor
Since they're actually going to make it - I can only hope it will be so bad I can laugh my ass off as I watch the bootleg from the internet.
I will never pay to see another Indiana Jones film as long as I live. -
that 'hitler vs avatar' thread has been going for over a week and is still going because some holocaust denier is in there stirring shit up. crazy!
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...to take the taste of IV out of our mouths. If they get it right and end the series on a high-note, that'd be okay.
I'm a HUGE Darabont fan, but his script sucked. Get someone new who loves the character (or Kasdan). -
I've not seen Indy IV, and this excites me even less.
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buuuuuuuuuuuut of course everyone's going to feed him.
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Another opinion, that's what. So here's mine: just don't. Please.
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Yeah make that movie instead. Fuck Bourne!!!
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Ford can bookend it with a patch on one eye, narrating from the Natural History Museum. Get a sexy young kid to play young Indy in the 1920s, traveling around the world, getting laid, having adventures and working on digs with Abner Ravenwood or some other old geezer. Forget the stupid mythical/alien MacGuffin shit already. Try to tell a decent Indy story without using that worn-out formula as a crutch.
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... I think agree with the posters who detected sarcasm in Beaksl write up. I tend to go off half cocked from time-to-time. Which actually, um, isn't that uncommon in the old-geezer-enlarged-prostrate constituency. Doh.
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Just because he did.
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"Does this mean George is going solo as a screenwriter? I sure hope so." Since when was the last time ole Georgy boy written anything good? The Crystal Skull story was craptastic and the screenplay was even worst! Is Lawrence Kasdan still around? I truly believe he is the reason Raiders and Empires was so good. "I also hope ... we'll get our first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location. This would be like a dream come true." Yikes! Seriously? All those CGI scenes in Crystal Skull never felt exhilariting or real at all. Please bring the practicals back! I am still a huge fan of the Indie Trilogy, but all these new Indie movies are a big let down like that crappy Star Wars prequel. Keep Lucas as an idea guy (maybe), and leave screenplays and directing to others.
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Sep 14, 2009 6:30:28 PM CDT
Lucas DID leave the weiting and directing to other people
by lockesbrokenleg
on Indy 4. So stop your bitching.
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Sep 14, 2009 6:32:39 PM CDT
Oh, and Harrison will say yes regardless of script quality ...
by thegrayghost
He's not doin anything and some last minute fame and fortune would be great. He made 65 million according to Forbes Magazine on that last one. Don't get me wrong, Ford is one of my favorite actors of all time, but it doesn't mean he won't make bad decisions.
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Anyway, maybe Shia will die and he won't be available...that would be okay.
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Confidence is high ;)
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Jesus, reading comprehension has gone down the shitter.
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Heh.
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so why not make it good and more in the vein of the old ones? No need to water it down to fit everyone. I wish one of them read this talkback, a lot of good points.
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You know it's inevitable. Indy's going to be a BUBBA-HO-TEP style hero! LOL! INDY 4 was passably entertaining, but I could also pass it off as a fever-hallucination and forget it mostly.
Wasn't Temple of Doom the first PG-13 movie? I vaguely recall it being a big deal. *scratches head* -
Oprah got even fatter this season
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Maybe he can be a fellow archeologist that helps Indy out?
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... than to substitute a younger established *movie star*. The only way to reboot this is with a 30 something unknown.
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Or Diablo Cody? Just trying to think of the most unlikely writers for an Indy script...
Indy and Madea versus the" fill in the blank"... At least it would make some serious bank the first weekend out ! -
and I thought I had bad ideas....Breandan Frasier....you win buddy....you win...
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Indy 4 wasn't that good, but it didn't kill my interest in the series like the prequel trilogy did for Star Wars. I'll take whatever Indy I can get. Hell with it. I'm in.
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Just more CGI in general. I don't even care if Indy is in the thing. And all you haters are just bitter that George Lucas is rich and stuff...
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and yell out shit like, "Mummies never play fair!"
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there i said it. you can all fuck off if you don't like it! i am a george lucas fan!!
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Didn't read what Beaks wrote in the forum. Apologies to Beaks. Though, I do reserve the right to gripe about George's FX preferences and his screenplay writing abilities, especially if he is working on the screenplay of this next one.
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there would be no fan-boys!
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i know that some of you are looking foward to james camerons avatar. don't lie...
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He's a better screenwriter than David Koepp.
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... for the most part...
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... which is fairly astonishing...
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I am a huge fan of GL's original Star Wars and Indie movies. He revolutionalized the scifi/fantasy movie genre and fanboys like myself owe a debt of gratitude to the guy. Thank you Lucas for those. However, I am not a fan of his more recent efforts. My opinion. I respect yours.
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Wait ! I got it ! Let's CGI Indy ! Who's with me ? I have to say I am kinda scared of an Indy 5....I'm sure everyone will make gazillions and I'll go see it with the excuse I have to take my nephew or something....I am still a fan(NerdRetard, don't worry)....I've just become a bit tainted...otherwise we wouldn't be on this talkback....I just don't know how much more of the "ruining all my childhood favorite movies" I can take anymore !
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WTF is going on!
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Is this true? Sad Indeed !
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with a Blu-Ray release for the Star Wars films?
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...still talking about INDY 5?
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but, its ok because i was done with it anyway. let the healing begin...
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between Swayze and Sam Elliott
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the escaped Nazi's fled.
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2009=worst year for film in a long time.
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Sep 14, 2009 7:13:36 PM CDT
If Swayze IS dead the Russians will seize the opportunity...
by flickapoo
...to invade. You know they will, those fuckers. Time to grab the canned goods and the big knife...
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Sep 14, 2009 7:14:46 PM CDT
WOOOOOOOOOLVERIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by flickapoo
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MSNBC is now reporting on it. he's gone.
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Bodhi caught his wave man..
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Was fuh-king awful too.
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Swayze can't die!!! Mother of Mercy the news has made it official. This will be a mournful night in MulletTown.
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Come on guys. Hit it out of the park. YOu don't have to many films left. How about Paul Hogan as Indy's brother?
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Should be good.
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Say that to God, Swayze!!!
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patrick swayze has passed, damn 2009
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Lucas as sole screenwriter and the absence of any practical set? Can we also make all the extras Muppets and make the soundtrack just a techno mix of John Williams old score? And use CGI to wipe all the wrinkles off Harrison's old face? And then make require critics to write positive reviews even before they watch the movie. Require paying audience members and two friends or family to each buy a DVD copy on release. And then the eventual Indy and Star Wars tie in. Still want my money back for Crystal Skullfuck!!
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Gods damn it..
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Of all the criticisms of KOTCS the "it looked like it was shot on a set" argument is truly the stupidest. These are also the same people who bemoan CGI. Well I have news for you dumbasses: there is no creepy graveyard like that and the Temple of Akator is make believe. They had to shoot the damn movie somewhere didn't they? WTF would film geniuses have them do? All the Indy movies look like they were shot on sets because most 30's serials were-surprise! surprise!- shot on sets!
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_swayze
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...was 100x better than that Darabont abomination.
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Sep 14, 2009 7:23:55 PM CDT
RIP Patrick Swayze. No one puts baby in a corner
by disney_retcond_my_std
True Legend and a great guy
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Lucas to write another Indy and Swayze death.
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... I usually give you your due, but Karen Allen was the BEST thing about KOTCS. I can now give voice to a sneaking suspicion I've had about you for a while. Your just an instigator. Can't trust anything you post as sincere. Kind of a pretty sophisticated troller at the end of the conversation. Flame if you must. I care not.
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Sep 14, 2009 7:24:46 PM CDT
Patrick Swayze should be the new indiana jones
by nerd_rage_retard_strength
oh...wait... fuck...
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CG is a tool and will only improve with time. The industry has been moving in that direction whether I like it or not, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Some movies utilize it better than others. There are times when it is used appropriately and perhaps even seamlessly like in Forrest Gump, T2, and The Two Towers. Then there are times when it simply takes you out of the movie. For Indiana Jones, I've always appreciated the practical look and feel. It's my preference. I'm sure the CG elements in Crystal Skull didn't bother many. As for Avatar, I never got the chance to see the preview in 3D, so I can't comment on that. Just because I don't want Indie to be filled to the brim with CG, it doesn't mean I do not like other movies with CG.
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I'm very proud to say it's part of my DVD collection.
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Yeah, I said it. When it's used right line in ROTS, or Transformers, CG fucking rules. When it's used in Hellboy, well.
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I know Lucas will want to do his own story, but if anybody has a mind, over the last year I developed and wrote a script for a fifth and final Indy film. So if anybody connected to Lucasfilm wants it, just email me (AICN hereby has my permission to give my email to anyone with legit ties to Lucasfilm).
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And Leon keeps getting laaarrrrggggeeeerrr !
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to an old post now ! I'm terribly slow today...!
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you just never know when a boy is crying wolf on the internet. R.I.P Patrick Swayze.
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vaya con dios swayze!
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Agreed. Crystal Skull may stink like a vegetarian's shit, but compared to most of garbage we've endured this summer, it's a fucking masterpiece.
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shouldn't you be feeding the troll on the Hitler v avatar tb?
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Sure it was a little hokey at times, but I had fun with it.
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Sure it had too many useless characters, and none of the villains were as worthy as Belloq, but hell, I liked it.
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Love that movie. He's definitely on the list of the underrated actors. :(
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I'm very sad he's dead.
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"Pain don't hurt." So many great lines in that movie.
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bahhh!!!!
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but it has one of the most kick-ass scores of cinema history.
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He seemed like a good guy. His SNL skit with Chris Farley was a comedy classic. RIP.
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http://tinyurl.com/2eqp9b
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"If you want the ultimate, you have to be willing to pay the ultimate price."
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"If you want the ultimate, you have to be willing to pay the ultimate price."
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"If you want the ultimate, you have to be willing to pay the ultimate price."
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that's one of the funniest skits I've ever seen on that show.
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... but "Road House" was lame.
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My connection is screwed up, but he deserved all three anyway. Swayze was the man.
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.....and....SifoDyasJr.....thanks for the link.
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golden Chippendale's.
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Thirty years ago maverick directors and fearless actors would shoot the shit in jungles and deserts. It made for exciting film experiences, as it gave the impression that the characters were actually in the jungle. Or the desert.
Actual wild animals were used and put into the same shot as the actors, creating asense of realism and danger.
Stunts were done for real, which sold the idea that the hero, invincible as he may seem, is still subjected to the laws of physics.
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Red Dawn will never be forgotten. New movie will blow everybody knows it.
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*sniff*
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Harrison wants Indy 5, Mike Meyers wants Austin Powers 4. Since nobody else wants to see either of them, why not just make one shitty 1960s era film instead of two?
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Sep 14, 2009 7:56:29 PM CDT
well, at least they've already gotten the aaayliens out of the w
by anything but tangerines
the next one is guaranteed to be better, you have no reason to complain
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just had to say it since I see NO STORY on AICN...
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Weta only designed the aliens and the ship. The aliens were done by Image Engine and the ship by The Embassy.
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Oscar.
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such a shame
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No more scientology stories....please....we like better fiction like the Ark of the covenant or the Saint Graal....or maybe a stone in India which grants magical powers and brings food and water to a small village....actually.....what would you like him to look for? Maybe we can put out some feelers out to Lucas....
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Once again proves that anyone with a Darth or Jedi in his name will apologize for anything that Lucas does. I say Darth Vedder pays me the $50+ I spent that night with my family to watch that piece of shit Crystal Skull!!
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An older Mutt or Sallah is searching for him?
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except its not the same results.. just a higher level of phoniness.
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They should cast Christoph Waltz as the big bad in Indiana Jones 5.
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patrick swayze's death is announced 2 minutes earlier, and AICN doesnt have a well written essay about it yet! those fuckwits!
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After watching Crystal Skull, watched Temple again and liked it a lot more for it's.... restraint?
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It'll be good.
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The man is now a real Ghost.
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& who would've predicted that IJ4 would reach such depths of awfulness as to provide the fan community with the most ubiquitous new catchphrase for fail since "jump the shark"? (Soon to be replaced by "avatard.")
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I always saw Indy as that last great old school hero; nothing fancy, no special gadgets and no special combat training. He was always about doing thing practical. I think that’s what made Indy so great. In Raiders and Temple there weren’t really much FX that took over the film, it just helped with the story. But after 4, I really don’t think we will ever see that last great run that Indy should have. Lucas, Spielberg and Harrison are all off the deep end now. We know better than to take their word on anything regarding Indy. To me, Indy was always that one movie that couldn’t use CGI because he was an old school kind of movie; meaning that practical effects were used as much as possible and only doing FX when it was impossible to use practical effects. As much as I would love to see another Indy movie, I just can’t take that ass taste that was 4 to really want to see a 5. . . at least not with Loony Lucas and Simple Spielberg at the helm of it. But miracles do happen from time to time. Let’s pray Jeebus delivers one.
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Hell yeah, have him team up with Chuck Yeager on a secret mission.
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Sep 14, 2009 8:32:53 PM CDT
A lot of words come to mind when I contemplate Indy 5
by james_camera_on
"rejoice," however, is not among them. Indy IV started out ok, and then went right down the storm drain: people ran around, Indy explained what was going on; people ran around some more, Indy explained what was going on and so forth. It was just a terrible script and I have no confidence whatever in Lucas ever being able to remotely accomplish again what he did 1977 -- 1983. What will this one be titled: Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Pension Fund? NFW.
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...Swayze obit all this time. If I hear you have been having dinner or giving each other fat writer guy lap dances you guys are in fucking trouble...
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He can't write!
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as I said in the GH thread- It fucking sucks!
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They confiscated it at the airport in Mexico.
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Sep 14, 2009 8:39:42 PM CDT
He's really going to start to looking like actor George Hall...
by orionsangels
from The Young Indiana Jones Adventures.
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yeah, i saw you over there feeding him too. whats your point? are you about to get 'holier than thou"?
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Since the Swayze news broke and I've checked back here...nothing.
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"Does this mean George is going solo as a screenwriter? I sure hope so. I also hope Spielberg's positive experience with performance capture on TINTIN means we'll get our first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location. This would be like a dream come true". Wow, Beaks, I almost thought you were serious there for a minute! That was frightening...anywho, really, I don't see it happening. Lucas and Ford were saying stuff like this in like, 1994 about Indy 4, and look how long that took...if history repeats itself, they, and we, will all be dead before this happens. Still, the mere mention of Indy 5 brings a tight knot to my man-tummy...it's almost like a knell of doom. My ass still hasn't recovered from the brutal raping it received from "the Mummy", "the awkward bird-looking man-child", and "the neck with the guy attached to it". BTW, I went to the same sleep-away camp where Harrison Ford's daughter had gone the previous summer, and apparently he came to pick her up in a helicopter and landed it on the soccer field and squished about twenty-five people. Then people began to follow him around, and he couldn't figure out why. No body good-looking was killed, however, so nobody cared.
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It like Tarzan with Jane than Boy. It was never the same.
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Sep 14, 2009 8:43:03 PM CDT
Give them time tensticks. They wanna write a worthy obit.
by orionsangels
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nothing more, nothing less.
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it also appears that i single handedly shut him up, so stuff it...
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Sep 14, 2009 8:45:10 PM CDT
saying 'fuck you' to a troll is feeding the troll
by nerd_rage_retard_strength
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INDIANA JONES AND THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH
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INDIANA JONES VERSUS DRACULA
I actually think it'll be something of both. A secret society that uses blood/fountain to never age, with all the requisite "You're getting too old, Indiana - take this, be one of us." Optimus arm-swing: "N E V E R !" I'm serious - tell me I'm wrong in a few years. Someone save this message. -
I said "Morons, stop interacting with the 5-year-old on this thread."
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...or black people.
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AND IMA LET YOU FINISH...
BUT MICHAEL JACKSONS DEATH WAS THE BEST ONE OF THE YEAR!!!!! -
At least he's working with Indy As Old Man, and not retconning the eyeball rape by doing an Indiana Jones Episode 1 thing...
INDY: If you are suffering as much as I am, please tell me.
MARION: I can't... We can't... It's not possible.
INDY: Anything is possible, Padme, listen to me.
MARION: No you listen! We live in a real world, come back to it. You're studying to become an archaelogist, I'm always flying around the world with my dad. If you follow your thoughts through to conclusion, it will take us to a place we cannot go, regardless of the way we feel about each other.
INDY: Then you do feel something!
MARION: I will not let you give up your future for me.
INDY: You're asking me to be rational. That is something that I know I cannot do. Believe me, I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't.
I can't wait! Go, Indy! -
on the thread I've been given props for shutting douchebag up.
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RIP Patrick. Gotta watch Roadhouse in tribute tonight.
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That was way to early but funny as hell !!!!!
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Sep 14, 2009 9:02:03 PM CDT
Kayne: Yo, Swayze I'm really sad for you, & I'm gonna let you fi
by thepilgrim
but Beyonce had one of the best deaths of all time!!!!!! One of the best deaths of all time!!!!
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good at ya man. Great minds think alike
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East Coasters..... Meanwhile I'm still at work...GRRREEEEEAAAATTT !
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The "bad cgi" backgrounds was an intentional homage to the rear-screen projection techniques of 1950s films. It's meant to look that way in keeping with the cinematic timeline progression.
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similar to the plot of "Napoleon's Pyramids" by William Dietrich. Uses pyramids, freemasonry, egyptian and christian relics. Was a pretty interesting story.
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...I'm all for it. The only score clunker in the four films is Last Crusade. Williams phoned that one in. But the others make great driving music. At least in Los Angeles. Especially on Laurel Canyon when you haven't had your brakes checked in a while.
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And damn it looks fun..lots and lots of explosions!!!
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It ain't an Indiana Jones movie w/o Nazis. Maybe Indy vs Ed Norton.
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...than they did with the last attempt right? I say go for it, you crazy bastards! With all the big celebs dying recently, we can hope George will join them before his knocks out a script, right?
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see Indy 5. BTW, Indy 4 was the biggest moneymaker of them all and the vast majority of people liked it. The vast majority of movie goers aren't hyper-critical douchebags like the assholes on this site. Everything you say you hated about Indy 4 I can point out an equally ridiculous scene in one of the first 3 films. Except for the CGI Gophers. Those were pretty unneccessarry...
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but that's not the motherfucking point. I seen Indy 4 on dvd anyway. That way I didn't have to feel as responsible after I heard it sucked.
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Dear God, no. More like recoil in fear. The cinematic abortion that was Crystal Skull has confirmed what we all feared...these sequels should have never happened. For the love of the bloody Ark of the Covenant, someone stop these fools before they wreak more havoc!
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ragging on Ford, thinking how clever you are with jokes about how "ancient" he is......
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And Judeo-Christian biblical story.Hell I think Lucas/Spielberg missed out on something big not continuing with the Nazi's. Shit that practically had it handed to them with the South American thing in INdy 4. It should have been about tracking down Nazi's after the war.
You can do the whole Russian thing actually just fine as well... make it take place in the USSR and have it be about the mythos of the Romanovs and Rasputin and all. That would be cool.
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Just hope that it will be more Spielberg-idea oriented. Everybody should just lay off, let the master work.
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HMMM let's see, secret agents, a big fight on a Pan Am flight, Cuban Missile Crisis. Works for me!
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If you said that ten years ago, sure. But what the hell has Senor Spielbergo done that was worth a damn lately? *crickets chirping* At least we can hope that Hanks will right his ship with The Pacific next year.
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so Indy V will begin with Harrison Ford as Indy finding the Fountain of Youth(the movie you wanted to see). He drinks and becomes young again(Shia now as a young Indy). Then young Indy reteams with Mutt and now we are forced to sit througha "Parent Trap" of a Shia-fest. GGGAAAAAAYYYY!
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decide what movies you watch? Shows you to be a little weak-minded follower, doesn't it? Besides, who are these people that told you it sucked? Rottentomatoes gave it a 77% and 60% of those who ranked it on imdb gave it 7 out of 10 or higher. So, the vast majority of critics and the vast majority of movie-goers liked it alot. Not to mention that a movie can't make 300 million in the US and 3 quarters of a billion worldwide without repeat business and good word of mouth. Face it, Indy haters, you're in the minority. Most people liked Skull and even though you think you're taste is better than ours cause you hated it, you're wrong. Tell me what made you hate the movie and I will give you an equally ridiculous scene in the other 3. I think it was at least as good as Temple of Doom and more fun than that movie...
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Keep the laffs coming you mediocre piece of shit.
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Spielberg and Shia lebouf lounge together nude on lake como in italy while spielbergs good buddy and pal George Lucas is putting the finishing touches on a reshot scene he is inserting into the Attack of the Clones re-release. He isnt actually shooting any footage...its just ilm guys with matte grey balls on sticks running around in front of a light sensor to get enough real world accurate light information to fuel the cg bullshit machine. And the berg and the beef head inside to copulate and LUcas looks out on the placid water getting chills when he remembers the dialog he wrote for the scene about smooth surfaces and sand and whatnot. And Spielberg and Beefster are carrying on in the chateau making a racket and george reflects on how reflecting water in the real world pales in comparison to what his computers can do.
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Websites like Rottentomatoes and especially imdb are really no different from this site. Fanboys bigger than other fanboys will rank it higher out of spite. All that money doesn't mean shit to me. Shit movies make massive amounts of money every season. A weak-minded follower? Ok, because I was told by some buddies (Indy fans) that the movie sucked? Choose your words alittle better, friendo.
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if we were "Indy Haters" would we really be posting shit on this thread along the lines of "We want our Indy back!"
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And to think, all those years Marvin Gaye was singing the incorrect lyrics.
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that you said you waited till DVD to watch this movie, which wouldn't even give you a chance to like it. A movie like that needs to be seen on the big screen for the first time. If you were ever an "Indy fan", you wouldn't have waited to see it on DVD. And I'm sorry, but you're wrong, there aren't a lot of movies that have made as much as Indy that sucked. Please name for me the movies that have made over 300 million domestically and 750 million worldwide that were horrible...
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at the box office most certainly DOES NOT mean it's any damn good at all. More moviegoers than not, as much as we'd like to believe it's not so, are simpletons who wouldn't know Kurosawa from Kubrick. Crystal Skull was an indiana Jones movie without a soul, and that is what made it most objectionable for me. There was simply no weight to anything, the story was pure tripe, the effects were awful CGI when we've come to expect brilliant practical effects from the earlier films, and the performances were phoned in. If you don't see these problems when you watch the film...I don't really know what to say to you, other than to note that if you keep supporting shoddy film making, that is exactly what we will continue to get. The mere existence of that movie, and now knowing that more like could be in the offing hurts me deeply as I believe that Raiders of the Lost Ark played not only a part in me becoming the man that I am, but that it is a perfect...PERFECT...film that I would not change a single frame of. Can you begin to understand?
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fucking unprofessional
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Sep 14, 2009 10:32:40 PM CDT
So, you're saying that people ranked it higher even though
by coughlins laws
they didn't like it out of spite? What? I know there are lots of people who ludircrously give movies a one or a two, which it clearly is not. But a lot of people liked/loved this movie. Who are you to say your opinion, which is in the vast minority, is more valid than the majority of movie-goers? Kind of makes you sound like an arrogant prick...
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"here is the order
part I - part III - part IV - Part II
any one who says that temple of doom is better than crystal skull is full of shit or a dumb ass!"
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The Phantom Menace says hello. What a coincidence that George Lucas was behind both.
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I knew it was either great or grape. Coughlins, 'The Da Vinci Code' made over that and that movie was a piece of shit.
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do I have to start pointing out tb's to proof that?
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Get Allen Daviau or Dean Cundey and get some primary colors back into the Indy series, please.
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a film everyone can agree on for wanting a refund.
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I'll take that as a compliment.
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Sallah and no more crazy monkey vine swinging....bring back the last remnants of the Old Indies with Sallah...have him fight the Commies and go after another biblical artifact...since that's next in line...Like have him find Noah's ark or something to do with the Shroud of Turin....something like that...then you have all the ingredients for a Kick-Ass Indy Film...to Bring Indy into retirement and have Mutt want to take up the mantle...but don't make anymore movies...NONE.
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You make me laugh. Or is it lag? I know it's one of them.
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Before Indiana Jones was a household name, archeologist were typically stereotyped as being old men in their 70s or 80s. But that doesn't mean I agree that they should do another one. They lost the magic of what made the first one great. We waited nearly two decades for the right script and got Crystal fucking Skull? Maybe having a tighter deadline will force George to withhold his lame conceits (i.e. the Tarzan yell and the flying saucer) from being shoehorned into the script.
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because some people can't bare to see Indy lose steam. I'm entitled to my opinion.
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a movie I wanted to love. I even paid to see it twice in the theater, because it simply could not have been that bad, right? Um...yeah.
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good, fuckface. I'm here all night.
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sure that you justifying your opinion by tearing down others makes you feel better and superior, but to most people it makes you sound like an asshole snob. What difference does it make if someone watches Kurosawa or Kubrick? Indiana Jones is a very entertaining movie and is exactly what a summer blockbuster should be. Fuck you if you don't like it. You're calling me a simpleton for liking it? So what it's not Kubrick. There's a time in place for a Kubrick film and a summer blockbuster isn't the place. Look at his last two films, Eyes Wide Shut and A.I. Are you saying you'd rather watch those at a theatre than another Indiana Jones movie? Really?
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I don't give a shit if you enjoyed 'Kingdom of the Crystal.' You're on a site filled with film opinionated people if you haven't noticed. For the record, I never seen 'Eyes Wide Shut.' I'm a Kubrick fan and that's the only one I'd never seen. So, yeah I'd rather see that in theatres over 'Kingdom of the Crystal.' Can you dig that?
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based on a story and screenplay that Kubrick wanted to make. Don't kid yourself, that would have been a VERY different film if Stanley had survived long enough to make it. And as far as watching Eyes Wide Shut or Crystal Skull...you're joking, right? I'd rather watch Eyes Wide Shut with my eyes shut than that mess again. It's interesting that you'd resort to hurling profanities at me...interesting, but not surprising.
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No no noooooooooo!
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My answer is still ...yes.
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Sep 14, 2009 10:55:04 PM CDT
Also, if you really think that Raiders is the PERFECT
by coughlins laws
FILM, then every movie will pale in comparison to it. So, what's the point in bitching about it? If Raiders of the Lost Ark is the PERFECT MOVIE, then it can't be topped. So why get your panties all bunched up? There've been two other Indy films before Indy 4? They all had silly parts to them- (raft dive out of airplane landing safely on mountain-side, bad Special Effects when tank goes over cliff, etc.) What is so bad about Indy 4? I thought it was fun to watch and funny. I can look past stupid stuff, (bad CGI gophers, Shia Tarzan scene). I won't let that ruin the whole movie for me. I don't think you're a true movie fan if you let small moments like that take you completely out of a movie because almost every movie ever made has distracting scenes or things that might not work right for everyone. For you to let 90 seconds of screen time ruin an entire movie for you (OK, we'll say 5 minutes), makes you a snobby asshole. Let the rest of America enjoy the movie without douchebags like you calling us "simpletons" because you somehow believe you have better taste. Just remember, these are ALL just fucking movies. Stop taking them so seriously...
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Sep 14, 2009 10:55:37 PM CDT
He's "very happy" to don the suit and bullwhip again ?!?!?!?!?!
by chief redcock
::insert Gus Van Rant punchline here::
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At least AICN isn't slamming Avatar.
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Kubrick was alive and Spielberg has said he tried to make the movie the way Kubrick wanted. It wouldn't have been that much different had Kubrick directed instead of produced, just more boring. As far as rather watching Eyes Wide Shut than Indy 4, i'd like to see a poll of that. I don't even think the assholes that make up this talkback universe would cop to that. I just can't take you seriously when you say things like that. I really enjoy alot of Kubrick's movies, but EWS just did not work that well and it definitely was not fun to watch...
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Who's "stopping you from enjoying the movie"? Why so defensive, Cough. Are you going to shout out "YOU LIE!" or call those of us who don't like the film socialists or Nazi's next? Perhaps your anger would be better served with your fellow dung hurlers at a local town hall event? Have you considered a run for your local congressional seat?
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why don't you stop taking shit so seriously? You're acting really defensive over what you exclaimed yourself to be nothing.
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Like Harrison Ford has a f clue about a good script..Regarding Henry anyone? Surely one of the worst crimes committed to celluloid EVER.
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Unfortunately, his taste in scripts has become quite suspect. It seems more and more to be all about the money with Mr. Ford as he's reached his twilight years.
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Lebuf? GTFO! Flying fridges and aliens I can stand, and seeing Karen back was the tits and Blanchett with psychic powers was aiiight but seeing even stevens boy tryin to act like the wild one and dippin his comb into other people's soda was the only minus imo. If only River Phoenix had made better choices it would've been great to have him be HJ III. Btw is LXG really as bad as everyone says? I ask cuz it's bundled with the Entrapment Blu-ray at costco, and I've been itching to buy a new blu-ray just because.
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like it was H1N1 sprinkled on a Blu-Ray. Unwatchable is being far too kind.
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the simpleton hasn't posted back.
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Why they never tried to bring Short Round back into the equation is beyond me. "No time for love Dr. Jones."
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Can it?
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have George Romero direct and have the zombies tear Shia, Indy, and Marion to shreds and eat their guts.
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Since Lucas, Spielberg and Ford already devoured all that remained of Indy and Marion in that last frightfest.
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Sep 14, 2009 11:31:13 PM CDT
To all of you who want a different actor to play Indy...
by triple_j_72
...SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
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Let's pray that Indy 5 will be like Rocky Balboa (aka Rocky 6) and put that Fedora to rest with some class!
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stop busting on my movie. I'll never be able to watch it again because of douches like you *cries hysterically*.
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That's literally the worst idea I've ever heard.
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Damn, that would be so sweet.
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Grown men, crying about Indiana Jones not living up to your "potential". The last movie was fun, not as good as the others but fun nonetheless, yet you middle aged nerds look at gift horse in the mouth. Harrison Ford is fucking old guys, I hate to break this to you but this could be his last crusade; you better fucking appreciate it, or else!
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Sep 15, 2009 12:08:35 AM CDT
I'm just saying, we give some movies mulligans, Indy 4 was one o
by chuckimania
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And have him die at the end. The last shot of the movie is his journal with some note on it.
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No more. Crystal Skull ruined it for me. It's over Johnny! It's over!
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omg, does he mean "good" like in Indy 4?!?!
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Unless Shorty gets a major role, I'm done with Indy.
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The film is a horribly overrated bore.What Lies Beneath was better.
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EFF THAT SHIT!!
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Was he ill or something? How do you turn down Traffic?
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and if I see him in another movie I'll fukkin hurl....
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You actually think this is a good thing? GL is a terrible screenwriter. Somebody call Lawrence Kasdan for fuck's sake!
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giggle
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That man can write scripts.
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would be a bit of a laugh. Indy meets Tom Cruise and finds out that the aliens at the end of indy iv were relatives of Xenu, and they are going to contact him so he can once again enslave mankind by dumping everyone into giant volcanoes using 747 aeroplanes.
Indy goes searching for the corpse of Ron Hubbard as he is told by Tom Cruise that he can use the remains of his dead penis to mark earth as territory.
Unfortunately, scientologists turned out to be security nuts, so they booby trapped his corpse. The only way to get through is (the author of this post has just been assasinated) -
Malkovich. Malkovich. Malkovich. Malkovich? Malkovich!
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1/3rd thu - "im thinking about walking out..."
2/3rds thru - "seriously man, im thinking about walking out" end credits - "fuck i should have walked out" second viewing "nope it's still shit. let me sit and count the ways" -
Saying otherwise proves you're a fucktard.
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than Indy 4 did, but people slammed it for being too "military". Errr.
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Sep 15, 2009 1:48:01 AM CDT
Bring back LAO CHE. He is 1-0 against Indy..also SHORT ROUND
by gibsonusa returns
I miss Lao.
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I am not a Shia hater...I'm just saying everyone wanted to see Short Round again and we didnt get him!
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the kids will love it!!!
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We have had a magical box, magical rocks, a magical cup, and aliens
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script and paycheck confused, leave the old guy alone
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if he's willing to whore himself out for this, its time to ask about a star wars movie.
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The haters are out of there minds.
That's gotta be one of the most consistently, intensely, entertaining movies ever. Seriously, it's up there with Aliens in the absolutely non-stop intensity department. After the first 20 minutes you're all worn out, and then the whole last hour is just one insane ride. Also, the mine-cart effects are WAY better than the CG stuff in Crystal Skull. I still have no idea how they pulled that stuff off. -
Does Shia LaBeouf have to be in the film? he was okay in transformers but in the indiana franchise he kinda spoiled the last one for me.
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what about that one?
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Indiana Jones discovers an old pirate with a curse who may be the key to a world wide disaster.
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Indy a professor goes on a wild adventure with one of his students dragged along, played by Megan fox of course.
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@Flim Springfield: wouldn't that match your zombie idea...?
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...is that all you fools who are making them will be the first to loudly complain if Spielberg/Lucas were to actually use them in the movie. The Crystal skull was a unique and kind of obscure artifact that wasn't widely known but still "real." If Indy goes after Atlantis for part 5 you will all complain that he ripped it off from the game.
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My main man Lao needs to roll on back in town!
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Sep 15, 2009 2:40:28 AM CDT
LAO CHE's first line in Indy 5: "HELLO, DOCTER JONES...hehehe"
by gibsonusa returns
Thats what it should be.
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he was the man!
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watch the first ONE again and try to remember how GOOD film are made!!!
Good characters, good script,good tension, funny lines, NO CGI. Don't have George fiddling with it again: the guy lost it a long time ago (somewhere around the early 80s).
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By the time "Indy 5" shits (er, I mean hits) the screen, Harrison Ford will look like Don Ameche.
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i only agree to a fifth part if they leave out: apes with ugly haircuts, shia lebeuf, refrigerators, giant ants, crystalline aliens, ufos.
let indy go and hunt down some religious artefact. i mean there must be plenty around. let him look for the ark, the shroud of turin, the spearhead, the holy cross, or ANY holy thing from ANY fucking religion on this earth. -
I HATE YOU, MICHAEL BAY!
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Indy travels in Vietnam,in order to stop the vietcongs from discovering an ancient powerful,destructive artifact,lost and hidden somewhere in the jungles.He succeeds but disgusted by the war's atrocities,he returns to america,turns into a hippie and sings in the woodstock event.
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Sep 15, 2009 3:04:18 AM CDT
Indy goes to CHINA to find the staff of the monkey king.
by gibsonusa returns
But of course, LAO CHE (still rich and powerful) wants it too!
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yeah, that's it: indy finds excalibur. now where's my million bucks, george and steve?
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i think they passed over this one in favor favor of kingdom...
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Sep 15, 2009 3:10:25 AM CDT
the 1960s?......INDIANA JONES. CHINA. CHAIRMAN MAO. NIXON.
by gibsonusa returns
Chinese Cultural Revolution.
And of course....LAO CHE.
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two roles for ford: indy and han solo!!! cgi and bad taste make it possible. thank you, george.
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...no wait, that would actually suck!
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@GibsonUSA Returns: indiana tries to prevent the war in vietnam, but the communists mess around with some magic artefact. and, of course, LAO CHE is involved.
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who mysteriously resembles his father when he was young.
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plot: indy goes back to the canyon of the crescent moon, kicks the last knight's ass, leaves sallah there but he saves elsa and together they rule the world!
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50s - 60s, right? how about this one: indiana jones infiltrates the kkk for the fbi during civil rights movements to steal some celtic artefact = the source of their power.
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@gorgomel: i love your carbonite idea
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Did anyone else prefer the version of this that he said in the trailer. I thought Indy was having a stroke or something when watching the film as had seen the old clip loads before!
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Sep 15, 2009 3:55:36 AM CDT
INDIANA JONES and THAT WEIRD SCEPTER ARTEFACT FROM TEENAGE MUTAN
by lucius
i think this would be appropriate
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Hope that Lucas will be writing solo? When he was the one who insisted on freakin aliens in Indy 4? Hope that use of performance capture will render location shoots unnecessary? That they'll use a UK political scandal that nobody has given a damn about for decades as the theme? Oh, wait, now I get it - the entire article is a piss-take. Kind of like saying "hope it entails babies being punched in the face". Good one, Beaks.
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That makes no sense to me.
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Why exactly would no practical locations be a good thing?
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You do realise Beaks is trying to be funny, he isn't exactly hitting it out of the park, but he is trying his best.
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Jones kicks back with Draper.
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Again, good one Beaksy.
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which would be great. id also love it if they approached it as if visual effects never existed. do as much as they could practically, and only when something is impossible, do it cg. but do as much as possible for real. Indy 4 was a mess... people saw it because they expected great things. indy 5 genuinely needs to look good, or i wont be bothering.
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I was so disapointed when Ke Huy Quan wasn't at least in the background of Indys wedding.
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With Indys nuclear fridge.
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Hmm, so you tellin me that stupid-ass groundhog and them CGI bugs were real?? Real stupid, yeah. Practical effects my ass. I'll admit that there were probably more practical FX involved than in, say, Transformers. But still, this is not what an Indy film should look like!
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As soon as I saw the weird and unnecessary CGI ground-hog/Caddyshack gopher/rodent/whatever the fuck it was at the beginning of the last movie, I immediately thought that maybe I wasn’t going to be in for the thrill ride that I got myself hyped up for and maybe the film was going to suck. By the end of the movie I knew I was right in thinking that. It was a terrible movie, and the worst part of it is I wasn’t even surprised Lucas/Spielberg fucked it up. The thing is, these once great filmmakers have lost their talent, as they got older. It happens to all great artists that surround themselves with yes men and cowardly staff. Okay maybe not cowardly staff, (if I were working on set early in my career I wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of George and especially Stephen Spielberg, who by some accounts is a prick that could fuck your career up if you cross him). But Jesus Christ! Harrison Ford should have said something, (but then again, he’s probably as senile as the rest of them). Right now I don’t even care if they make another Indy Jones movie, I’m just tired of old men Lucas and Spielberg’s bullshit. Okay, that’s a lie (I wouldn’t be here moaning if I didn’t care). I just hope they do something useful with the CGI that they are hopelessly addicted to instead of CGI gopher whatever the fuck that was, tedious swinging through the forest crap, stupid computer ants, and obvious dark claustrophobic soundstages instead of proper real locations. For example bring back face melt guy in a nightmare/supernatural sequence (much more satisfying than Karen Allen). At one stage I thought Darth Maul would make a OMG WTF cameo in ROTS with spider-like cybernetic legs and longer horns (like in one of the comics) but that wouldn’t be as good as a Obi-Wan riding badly animated salamander now wouldn’t it George? Finally, what has 6 legs and smells of piss? Lucas, Spielberg and Ford discussing the plot details of Indy 5!
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Spielberg is losing his touch as the fucker hasn't done anything of relevance since 2002's Minority Report.Fuck him,Indy and Bayformers.
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Sorry, guys, but I did. I enjoyed the opening sequence. I enjoyed the motorbike scene. I loved seeing Marion again. The jungle chase was fun. I liked the Mayan stuff. I didn't feel insulted. OK, I'll admit, I had taken a Diazepam the day before as I was flying back from Spain. But then I saw it on vid again and still enjoyed it! Sorry guys. I would rather see Indy 5 than Transformers 3, Bad Boys 3, Rambo V, Alien 6 etc etc.
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I seriously think he should just make fun blockbusters now. I've given us ever getting a really good 'serious' film from him. I mean, if you want serious, watch some Robert Bresson!
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thats all i want,nothing else.
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its great that we are having another one why the pessimism. its always fun having an indy movie as long as its not boring. and the last one was fun as hell
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I'll be happy if you don't. A 4th pile of sh*t sequel is enough for me. Thank you.
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Fine, I'll bite.
The thing trolls don't seem to understand is that you don't actually have to lie about anything in talkback to get a reaction, if that's what you're after. There's always someone with a differing opinion ready to jump down your throat at the mere mention of anything. This is why I've been nothing but honest in every goddamn thing I've ever posted in talkback. If I were a troll I would have gone on defending Indy 4 even after having seen it and hated it.
As for Karen Allen, I was thrilled -- THRILLED -- to learn of her participation in the film, which is why her performance and her complete lack of chemistry with Ford was such a crushing disappointment to me. There was almost nothing left from the original Marion character in her performance in Indy 4. She showed up, said the lines, and that was it. I'm not alone in this opinion so it's hardly what one would call a very provocative statement around these parts. -
i bet thats what it would be.
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not her fault,she still was beautiful and had that charisma.
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From what i remember,every indy film bar Raiders was panned by critics and fans for the large part when first released. I remember being disappointed myself in last crusade when i first saw it,i enjoy the film more now though and i expect the same of crystal skull even though it was the worse one. I hope they get it right for pt 5 but im thinking Ford is just too old now for it. Oh and Temple of doom rocks big time !
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Spielberg could use that moon story from the TINTIN comics.
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he did nothing there the first time around. lol
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Just let Indy die, no more....
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Would you see a 3D CGI-fest Indy flick? Me neither. Please... let this project die. Make the last screen appearence by Ford be his memorable line in Bruno.
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Bringing his trusty indestructible refrigerator along on this adventure? Getting chased by Yanamamo indians with blowdarts, nasty nazis, horrible heart-grabbing Hindus? Not a problem! Just crawl into your nuke-proof fridge and wait it out until the danger is past. (Boy that movie stunk)
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... and predictible that I can't help myself sometimes. Just a jackass at heart I suppose.
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Was Crystal Skull worthy of Raiders? Nope. Was it a worthy send off for Indy? Not in a million years. Was it the biggest P.O.S. to be churned out to summer cinmas as haters on here would have you believe? NO. Fact is, it was a perfectly good flick. For all those who think the "fridge" somehow rendered the whole franchise destroyed - I'd hazard a guess that jumping out of crashing plane on a fucking rubber dinghy is pushing credibility too. So: Indy 5. Get rid of Koepp. All he did last time was take chunks from the umpteen previous drafts and slap them together. "Let's have the H-bomb from THAT script. Oh, and the motorbike chase from that OTHER one. Didn't we give him a daughter in one draft? Fuck it, make it a son instead. We'll keep the aliens. Put that jungle thing in." Get rid of the sci-fi, bring back some religious artifact. Spear of Destiny. Excalibur. Something mystical. Leave the kid and (sorry) Marion at home. Have him go up against a new Belloq. Some hungry young archaeologist-adventurer who is everything HE was when he went after the Ark, only far more mercenary, and in league with either rogue surviving Nazis, or perhaps the pesky Reds - Chinese this time. And in five years? Recast. Go back to the thirties. Nathan Fillion. Fucker was BORN to take over the hat and the whip.
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... Right now I can picture Spielberg dicking around on a big green soundstage with Peter Jackson (making a film NO ONE was wanting, by the way) going "gee, we can do the next Indy and take him ANYWHERE without even leaving California". With "3D" echoing around his head. NO. NO. NO, Steven. Don't follow George and Jim into a non-world of freaky dead-eyed cartoon characters. Then again, when Avatar bombs like a bastard, maybe everyone will get this silly "mo-cap" and "3D" gimmickry out of their minds.
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I'm a big Darabont fan (Shawshank, Mist) but did any of the people clamouring for him to write Indy 5 actually read his draft of Indy 4? It was fucking atrocious. Crystal Skull was flawed but it certainly turned out better than the Darabont draft would have.
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Well done that man!! EVERYTHING that blew - or was at the very least somewhat questionable - in Crystal Skull, was present and incorrect in Darabont's draft. There was some cool stuff - a biplane fight (sadly ending in a monkey shitting on Indy and our hero uttering the line, "Ewww, he POOPED on me", for God's sake)... the relationship between Indy and Marion was better, him having to win her back from one of the baddie turncoats... but there was also a scene in which Indy got SWALLOWED BY A GIANT SNAKE and either fought his way out, or got puked out (either way, if THAT had been filmed, you can guarantee "ate by a snake" would be in the popular lexicon rather than "nuked the fridge")... maybe the element about Indy being suspect to the FBI was handled better instead of being just dropped... but the climax (admittedly under-par in the finished film) culminated in Indy getting a shotgun and blowing the alien's head off, with the pay off line: "Welcome to Earth". So I guess Darabont never saw Independence Day. Like I said, the script for Crystal Skull wasn't so much written as slapped together from existing stuff on Lucas's desk. As an aside, for all those blaming Lucas for any failings (and God knows, he deserves some shit) - check out the Raiders "Story Conference" transcripts that got leaked onto the net a while back. Proof that Lucas was on a streak of brilliance, and Spielberg seemed determined to run it off the road into the realms of ridiculousness. Any cutesy-funny crap, I think we can lay at Steve's door, I'm afraid. (Fucking CGI gophers and monkeys, for a start.)
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Youcan't let the series go out on number 4. He's too good of a character to let that happen to.
Spielberg has it in him to bring back the intensity. Less supporting characters(less whinning from the board)...more Indy! -
Youcan't let the series go out on number 4. He's too good of a character to let that happen to.
Spielberg has it in him to bring back the intensity. Less supporting characters(less whinning from the board)...more Indy! -
Youcan't let the series go out on number 4. He's too good of a character to let that happen to.
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You really want George Lucas to write the thing?
AND you don't want practical sets?
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...As INDY 4 did by having a mound of man-eating bugs rise out of a big CGI pile and eat a wriggling Sov soldier (nothing like the scarabs in THE MUMMY, no no no not at all honest guv'nor), INDY 5 will now chronicle the adventures of Indiana Jones, Marion Exposition and his son Sequel Williams Jones Jr, as they battle to find the lost city of Hamunaptra to prevent an evil necromancer and ancient Egyptian soceror Mummy from arising to command an army of undead Anubis Warriors and inflicting the 10 Plagues of Egypt on the entire world in the 1960s! Starring Arnold Vosloo as Imhotep, and featuring Brendan Jones as Richard Jones, long-lost half-brother to Indiana and rival for Marion Expositio's affections...
Hey! This shit writes itself!! -
OOooooohhhh, are YOUR eyeballs in for it come December 2009!
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In fairness, you could reboot INDY with Fillion as Indy himself (he's got the same sardonic wit, the same laconic drawl and very similar sense of humour as Mal Reynolds), or even thrown Fillion in as a younger Han Solo in the upcoming STAR WARS live action TV series. He's the only guy I can think of who could take over an Original Trilogy character and make it work as well, if not better, than the originals did.
FILLION FOR INDY! FILLION FOR SOLO! NATHAN FILLION FOR THE WIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!! -
There's your fucking MacGuffin George - the one you SHOULD have used instead of those goddamned fake crystal skulls (look it up, they're almost certainly fakes). And you have the added frisson of the fact that Adolf Hitler spent most of WWII trying to get hold of that Spear, and obsessing over the power it would give him.
The greatness of this MacGuffin in one word: NAZIS.
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I was already Crystal Skull-fucked... No more please! It was horrible and you morons who say it was "ok" or actually liked it should really self-reflect. Your taste in movies has been lowered to such low standards by Hollywould that you would eat a shit sandwich and say "it wasn't that bad".
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Indy uses a time machine to go back and punch his younger self in the dick, resulting in a new timeline where Shia's character... Scruffy.... Ragamuffin... dickwhistle... whatever his name was... doesn't exist. And BTW, what's up with talkbackers who don't recognize obvious sarcasm and try to prove the writer wrong? "Uhm... there were real sets on Indy4." Yes, we know. It was... sarcasm. To illustrate the writer's dislike of CGI and virtual sets on an Indy film.
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.... Don't talk to the Coughdrop; maybe it will go away...
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Was Indy 4 as great as the original Indy Trilogy? Not by a long shot. Rape is a strong word. Were you disapointed by Indy 4? Yes, but get over it. Watching that movie was nowhere near as traumatic as being raped. Your childhood hymen is still intact as are the fond memories of watching the originals. That said, Something was off,and aside from the campus chase it just didn't feel like it was in the same world. The CGI was distracting. I missed the biblical/religious element. Part of the charm of Indy is that despite the fantastic events there was that inner struggle of his faith vs. his archeology. He had no emotional investment in the aliens. I missed the Nazis, they provided great foils. I hope the new film is the Indy of old
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What the fuck is wrong with you nerds? Are you serious? Replace Ford with Fillion and he'll work better? The idiocy that goes on on this site is mind boggling sometimes. I can't believe you of you people actually exist and think thoughts.
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Is often referred to because it was the most salient of this film's many problems. Yes the other films had moments of extreme cartooniness but they never went overboard. The "raft" incident in TOD wouldn't be as forgiveable had it been followed by bad Russian accents, vine-swinging teenagers and tired, hackneyed "double-cross" motiffs. Crystal skull was waaay below the bar set by it's predecessors and will most likely only continue to go down from here. Whatever though, they won't be getting my hard-earned $10.
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In Crystal Skull, the raft thing happened about five times in a row, consecutively...with twice as many people on board. Perfect example of just how over the top the movie was, almost to the point of self-parody.
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have I cared so little.
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I was actually pleased to see yer handle on this TB, and gigged you a little (very little comparitively) for old times sake. You responded in the tone I expected - not an insult btw. Hmm, you have some good point's about Marion's "usage". I only saw it once. I could have unconciously given her a pass I suppose, considering that I was pretty dissapointed with KOTCS over all. The refridgerator-escape-pod sequence is one of the single stupidest things I've ever seen on a cinema screen. Whithout "hollywood physics", Indy would have been a bloody pile flesh bones and organs with a fedora perched on top when that door swung open.
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Sep 15, 2009 9:45:09 AM CDT
keep Darabont well away send him to the space between space
by genrefanboy
....as his Indy4 script was utterly terrible and how he got upset it was thrown away into a garbage scow by Lucas shows how deluded Darabont has become (his only decent work was Green Mile & Shawshank).
Spielberg has amazing PR people cause he is 100% responsible for all the young children friendly moments in all of the Indy movies and especially KOTCS prairy dogs, tarzan mutt etc etc.
All Lucas ever does on Indy is create the story concept and consult on casting & or script revisions. SS makes all the major actor & direction tone choices. Ford just does what he is told most of the time and acts Indy like on camera.
Lucas certainly does not deserve much flack for Indy but cops it everytime by uninformed fanboys who want to hate him regardless (but will still line up for anything he makes so go figure....).
GO read the coffee table Indy making of book released last summer and the story conferences prove 100% Spielberg is the one who makes the PG friendly choices you all hate on the Indy movies, Lucas comes across as more Han Solo indifferent to Spielbergs Ewok/ET halfbreed attitude!!! -
...and lets do this right!
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...and lets get an edit button in this talk back. It's only been what, 12 years?
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... I remember giving KOTCS immediately after seeing it was due to the fear I had leading up to the release, that Ford was too old to pull off another Indy role due to the physicality inherent to the character, and would just come across as a ridiculous. And, IMO anyway, he didn't. I thought he pulled it off. On this point at least, I was pleasantly surprised by KOTCS.
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Id say let berg PRAIRIE DOG get on with it. We dont need a "new" style for indy, PRAIRIE DOG we need the old style back. The berg was right and lucas was wrong but PRAIRIE DOG damn berg for not washing his hands of it PRAIRIE DOG when lucas played up. Never seen such lazy direction. The story concept I didnt mind, PRAIRIE DOG the lack of danger, story and an overly cartoony approch I did. And not forgetting the use of PRAIRIE DOGS for NO APPARENT REASON.
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And bounce back from to top quality? I actually enjoyed KOTCS overall, it was no means perfect, throught the first hour was very good and last forty minutes OK, slightly clumsy with some very poor/rushed scenes. I for one would not mind another stand alone adventure- I think one of the problems with Indy 4 was trying to tie to together to the other films...Marian, the Ark, his dad, having a son etc- the beauty of the ToD and TLC was they just another adventure. Perhaps Indy 5 could be a prequel to Indy 4- his missions during WW2 and how he received medals? Hell if ToD could be set before Raiders then why not? Even bring back Nazis as bad guys- although I understand that Ford looking even older may make it hard to swallow, it all depends on when they can get this thing done.
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Remember the mushroom cloud scene? Heh...
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I'll take it. Bring back Short Round.
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To be honest, I enjoyed Crystal Skull. I completely see why people had so many problems with it but I thought it was very enjoyable. What it wasnt was a fine send off for Indy. He deserves a better ending, and thats why I look forward to a 5th film...so long as they make up for the issues with 4. Shoot 2 films back to back (cus lets face it, Harrison aint getting any younger)and give us a nice round number of movies with the send off to end all send offs. Just please no CG aliens/monkeys/ants/groundhogs(?)
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Indy 4 was enjoyable to everyone except you fucking losers. That is all.
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Indy 4 was enjoyable to everyone except you fucking losers. That is all.
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Can't deny the appeal of the character and potential for more great adventure.
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I could never forgive them for the death of my Star Wars. It seems to me our mission to escort the greatest character in the history of pulp adventure to a creatively and financially successful golden-years revival is problematic at best. Simon says this could be an historic occasion, and I'd like to believe him, but how on earth can history get past people like me?
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That doesn't mean you don't have a right to enjoy it. There's a lot of movies many people think suck that I enjoy. But, it also doesn't mean that just because fanboys hated it, that it is actually good. That logic makes no sense. I'm glad you understand why I and so many others have problems with it. Because, those problems are vast and glaringly obvious. Believe me, I wish I enjoyed the film as much as you did. I did not go into the theater wanting to hate on it, but I left depressingly disappointed. I envy you your ignorant bliss.
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I just enjoyed it - against all my better impulses, I just enjoyed it. It was silly, silly, silly, it was even sillier than Last Crusade, and I guess I realised that they will never make something as kick-ass as Raiders again - - but I liked it a WHOLE lot more than The Temple of Casual Racism.
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Sep 15, 2009 11:15:05 AM CDT
Indy 2 sucked worse than indy 4, face that.
by nerd_rage_retard_strength
yes.
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So because I enjoyed Indy 4, I am "ignorant?" OK. These "obvious problems" you refer to I can almost guarantee are simply the nitpicks of a grown-up child living in the past.
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I concur.
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Indy 4 was so bad though. Just... not an enjoyable experience. I had to break it up into two viewing sessions just to make it through.
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Now there's a movie!
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'ignorant bliss' is an expression and i did not intend it as an insult. Also, those 'obvious problems' were the result of a grown-up child out of touch with reality who is no longer relevant as an artist: this being George Lucas.
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The sad thing is that I no longer trust Spielberg.
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is what killed Patrick Swayze.
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Sep 15, 2009 11:32:05 AM CDT
INDIANA JONES VS. HITLER BRAIN ROBOT FEATURING THE GOONIES
by bringingsexyback
Imagine Short Round and Data kicking Hitler's ass together!!! Brilliant!!!!
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Indy film it did have Harrison Ford and the character of Indiana Jones in top form. Indy seemed a bit character in Crystal Skull and Ford's performance was tired and seemed phoned in. So, being that Indiana Jones is the heart of these films I would say that Doom was better than Skull.
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Brochure says the new turbo model will outrun any Mayan boulder trap.
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Harrison Ford is eagerly awaiting the shoot!!!!!!
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Show him as some sort of traveling professor whom Indy did right. Or show him as some sort of crime boss, as Short Round fell into a rough life after Indy left him at some airport in Asia after Temple of Doom.
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for all you people who stumble on here pointing the finger at us for dissing Indy 4...you really are in the minority. Not us. People I've talked to (not big Indy fans in the slightest) thought that the movie sucked. They hadn't seen a film icon get raped. They just claim to of seen a boring film.
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Sep 15, 2009 11:41:18 AM CDT
Lol something I've found in regards to Crystal Skull:
by cheyne_stoking_dms
"In a nutshell, think of Crystal Skull as a huge party thrown by Spielberg, Lucas and Ford. Everyones invited. You ring the doorbell and are shown to the living room. On the floor is a beautiful carpet called Raiders of the Lost Ark. You are having a good time (the movie's opening credits start) when all of a sudden the music stops and George Lucas unceremoniously walks to the middle of the room to get everyone's attention. You look up to see George unzip his fly, loosen the belt and lower his trousers to his knees. He then squats over and lays a massive, wet, smelly poo on the rug. And that's just the openiing scene."
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Harrison Ford’s tired performance
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Marion being reduced to an annoying, retarded
twit
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Unnecessary cgi
prairie dogs
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Inexplicable cgi
monkeys who teach Mutt how to swing on vines and fight against the Commies
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Mutt catching up to speeding cars by swinging on
vines
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Copout on aliens who are not really aliens because
they are inter-dimensional beings
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Anti-climactic ending with UFO disappearing into
inter-dimensional space instead of the much more satisfying taking off into
space
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Nuked fridge, of course.
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& nbsp;
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Seriously, she really does gotta eat! This is no joke! Please feed her, Harrison! Now!
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That's a pretty accurate metaphor.
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Harrison Ford - Where's my wife?! Have you seen my wife?! I'm looking for my wife! She's missing and I'm looking for her!
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Harrison Ford then stepped on it and wiped his shoe off all over the rug. Then Speilberg picked up the rug and took it around the room and showed it to everybody making them smell how bad it stunk.
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This is the best news since INDY 4 was announced, and released!
I loved indy 4 by the way peeps! FUCKING LOVED Every minute of it, and will be there opening day for INDY 5! And hope also an indy 6!
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Yippie!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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that Crystal Skull was better than Temple, right? You've got to be fucking kidding?! As I stated in a posting last night, there's just no exuberance to Crystal Skull...it's a film as lifeless as it's performances and it's effects work. The first 20 minutes of Temple, the confrontation at the Obi-wan and the ensuing escape are FAR AND AWAY superior to the whole of Skull, much less any one part of that unwatchable farce of an Indiana Jones film. I honestly can't even believe this is being discussed.
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'Temple' is my second favorite.
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Looking for his family, looking for his wife, kicking Nazi ass, or Kicking Occult ass.
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Crystal Skull as a whole.
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but only because they were really trying to recapture (and almost remake) Raiders with Crusade, the feel of it. They actually did a pretty damned good job as Connery really carried his weight and the movie (despite a few small hiccups) really worked for me. That being said, Temple is so far superior to Skull that I don't even consider it cannon. The films have and will ALWAYS stand as a trilogy for me.
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it obviously is not as powerful as Radiers. It doesn't carry that tension throughout, that sense of urgency and excitement like Raiders does. Hell, very few movies have or will ever be able to carry that weight. But Crusade worked for me as an homage to Raiders and the true sequel to Spielberg and Lucas' masterpiece in that we care about the characters again. Young Indy is (I think) brilliantly played by River (if he hadn't passed, we could very well be seeing entirely different movies today with him as Indy) and Henry Sr. is well written and very well played. We love the ride all the way through and it just clicks. It did for me anyway.
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Nothing more.
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Shia should've taken note.
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i literally can't get through that movie in one sitting. i hate the lead actress, she is horrible! short round is the annoying child side-kick that i hate from all 1980's era action movies. i hate the musical number int he movie (spiderman 3 anyone?) temple is like the haunted house ride at Disneyland. its not fun or scary.
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be able to even begin to hold a candle to River Phoenix as an actor. Running on Empty alone puts River in an entirely different realm than Shia could ever dream of attaining. He really could have, and I believe, would have been perfect to pick up the whip and the fedora for a new beginning with Indy. It's always sad when a brilliant young actor passes, but to go out like he did...it's just such a damned waste of so much talent.
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is just the older geeks living in the past. anyone who says temple is better than crystal can't see past their own nostalgia.
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'nuff said.
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Yes, no one is likely to EVER sing her praises of her acting chops, but unlike Skull, Temple is (I believe) able to overcome her performance with it's sheer tenacity and enjoyment. The movie just slaps you and says hold the fuck on...you're in for a wild ride. Skull on the other hand has one of the finest actresses of her generation in Cate Blanchett and she's ultimately just wasted. She seems utterly bored, and it makes sense as we're all just as bored watching the film.
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Nerd_Rage_Retard_Strength, I, and many others like me, call taste.
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Will you at least agree with me that Harrison Ford's performance in Doom was superior to his tired phoned in performance in Skull?
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Sep 15, 2009 12:42:06 PM CDT
Nerd Rage, I like Crystal Skull too, but I HAVE to call you out.
by d.vader
The musical number in Temple of Doom is in NO WAY AT ALL comparable to anything in Spider-Man 3.
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She got to marry Steven Spielberg. Not of us did.
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Sep 15, 2009 12:42:20 PM CDT
I'm probably what you'd refer to as a younger geek...
by cheyne_stoking_dms
and 'Temple' destroys 'Crystal Skull.'
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Won't be watching anymore. I can't even remember how it ended and I just saw it. Fucking horrible.And Temple of Doom was great. The opening scene alone was more fun than anything in Crystal Skull.
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i just find it funny that "nuke the fridge" has become an actual geek term. when, in temple, indy and crew jump out of an airplane with an inflatable raft, survive the fall and then go river rafting after. see the similarities? why is the fridge worse than the raft?
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That is the Holy order.
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blasphemy.
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Sep 15, 2009 12:45:39 PM CDT
BECAUSE A FRIDGE WOULD IN NO WAY SURVIVE A NUCLEAR BLAST
by bringingsexyback
I mean, that is pretty damned obvious. A falling raft has air resistance and all that stuff. Unplausible vs. plausible.
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Give it a rest George - hand the reins to someone else.
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Sep 15, 2009 12:46:50 PM CDT
NOT TO MENTION INDY'S BRAIN BEING SLOSHED AROUND IN HIS SKULL
by bringingsexyback
I mean, did you SEE that fridge's trajectory?!?!
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That may well be a "geek" term, as you call it...but I haven't used it once. I've tried to discuss the film, and my feelings about it, on terms beyond cliched little catchphrases. That said, while the refrigerator scene was ridiculous, it's only a small problem in a film with many larger ones. A pimple on the ass of the elephant man, if you will.
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I think it is fantastic. It would mean that Indy inspired Shorty to follow his footsteps academically and adventurously. If Shorty did appear in 5, I would sure as shit see it. That's really the only way for me. Fool me once and all that.
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Sep 15, 2009 12:53:30 PM CDT
I WOULD TOTALLY GEEKASM TO SEE SHORTY WITH INDY AGAIN
by bringingsexyback
Who of us didn't imagine ourselves as Shorty when we were kids? And now as an adult, reunited with Indy on another adventure? This is a no-brainer. No wonder it bypassed Lucas' head.
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even get Shia for the Mutt role? "Let's hire an actor that the geek community hates for the role of Indy's offspring." Shia Labeouf might as well play Indy's daughter.
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I'm glad you picked up on that. I think Short Round could go two ways: one being he falls into a life of crime, being an unfortunate orphan, and depending on what Indy ever did with him. But I'd much prefer the second option, that Indy inspired Short Round enough to work hard and become another intelligent and adventurous professor, just like his hero. I'd really like to see him return in that form.
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i always imagined myself as indy fucking the blond babe.true.
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1. air resistance of inflatable raft 2. landing on snow 3. landing on a mountain decline where the raft essentially continues falling. I've seen skiers jump out of helicopters onto mountainsides and survive, thank you very much.
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Seriously - don't be so self-aware this time around and treat it like a straight-forward story. Last one was so aware of itself, it was ridiculous. STUNTS!
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absolutely define the feel of the Indiana Jones pictures. Those need to be brought back.
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the dude who played him probably isn't even an actor anymore. Child actors tend to fall off the face of the Earth.
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As a stuntman / fight coordinator I think. Frankly he should bring Corey into Indy 5 with him. I'd buy 10 tickets to see that. Corey is good people.
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We are talking about the character,and what happened to him in the movie universe.I liked the idea of following Indys steps.maybe in a sequel,he goes for an adventure with Indys son,and tells him stories of his adventures with his father.
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But he does help out with stunts and fight choreography. I could still see him coming back to work with Ford and Spiels again.
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Have him be as gay as that other character.
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That would rock!
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Put them on their own path/adventure while Indy and someone else is on another one, both sides working toward the same goal but for some reason had to separate. Then we could see some flashbacks where Short Round tells a ridiculous story about Indy and Mutt doesn't believe it at all.
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This ain't no lame ass Green Hornet reboot. Real deal Shorty of GTFO.
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I would much rather read any screenplay you wrote along those lines than see the real thing, unless the real thing is based on your screenplay. Capital ideas, old chap.
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I start work on the screenplay tonight! And if we see any of these ideas in the new film, we'll know those buzzards have been scouting out the talkbacks.
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Lucas / Spielberg you got a goldmine in this talkback. Time to start mining.
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Sep 15, 2009 1:34:39 PM CDT
A two hour film starring Shia and some chinese guy?...
by cheyne_stoking_dms
Damn. 'Crystal Skull' starts to sound like 'Crystal Citizen Kane.' Lol.
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is no sequel at all. I would hope that we would have all learned that by now.
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Part of what I always loved about Indy was his army of friends, no matter which country he was in. That really speaks volumes about his character. I think it would be a good thing to explore in the sequel, to have Mutt learn about his father through the eyes of old friends and their memories of adventures with him.
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but it's cooler just knowing that they actually happen in the Indy universe. Less is always more.
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will be "Schlindler's List 2: Oskar's Revenge". Really, don't you have enough money? Just let Indy be.
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named Mutt, Jr. who follows them around on their adventures and talks in broken English like Scoobie Doo?
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Now that Indy and Marion are married, how do you deal with the love interest? Do you drag Marion around with Indy and have them continue to bicker like an old married couple? Or do you leave her at home and play with the idea of Indy having to learn how to be a one-woman guy? He goes to new countries, meets interesting and beautiful ladies who throw themselves at him, but now he's gotta pretend to not be interested and rebuff their advances. Or you just don't use any love interest at all and make the female character a straight up femme fatale (which treads a little bit on the last film's Spalko character). I would leave Marion at home and have the female character be a sidekick/assistant to whomever the main villain turns out to be. That way she can be antagonistic to Indy both in terms of plot progression and in her vile attempts to tempt Indy to make out with her.
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of the film and Indy go on a bloody revenge trip killing everything in his path including Nazis, Commies, Beatniks, Hippies, CGI Monkeys. And yes I want it directed by Quentin Tarantino!
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she has a thing for older men, i.e. Indy, who is her teacher.
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The sound of it slapped him from his dreams, hitting him hard like the first line of the day. "George..." steven whispered; "...this, this has got to stop; it, it's wrong." Stven knew that in itself was true enough, but the excitment he knew was in his voice would betray the twisted thoughts flooding his rapidly awakening mind to his old friend. He gave a furtive glance to the pillow next to him..."Thank God", Steven though, "Kates already up"; the sounds of a treadmill in the distance reassuring him of his privacy. "That got your attention, didn't it" cooed the voice from Marin, "I bet right now you're getting fucking wood just thinking about it aren't ya" George was right...already Steven could feel his loins tense...images of those excited fanboy faces danced inhis head...Steven remembered the look on their faces, and the cheer that went up when he had sat there just a few years ago and said "This one is for the fans"...Fuck was that a high...he remembered the erection he got sitting there lying to the crowd of Indy fans...the suppressed laughter of Ford; "That fucker was harder than I was" Steven remembered as his hand slid down to his growing member.Steven whispered..."Ok you fat fuck; what do you have in mind this time" As the conversation went on...Steven knew that there was no way out...George had gotten him hooked on the drug of fanboy fucking like a fucking crack whore sucking a glass dick...god he had grown to love it, even while he despised himself for doing so. As George went on, describing in detail the events and direction this latest "adventure" would take them, Steven stroked his tiny member harder and harder...as George finished, Steven realized the treadmill sound had gone away...he heard footsteps down the hall..."we'll finish later George...Kates coming!"; the door opened just as his hand had returned from putting the phone away. "Well"...said Kate, "I have not seen a hard-on like that since we banged in Ke Huy Quans trailer on the set of Indy 2". "It's all for you babe" STeven lied" as Kate fell into bed and he mounted his bought and paid for piece...the first thrust went balls deep into Capshaw...but steven didn't care...all he could imagine was the tears flowing from the redheaded fanboy..and how in his mind, they were tears of disappointment....he could not wait to call Harrison...
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Who lures unsuspecting men into her grasp, where she reveals her true self, a vicious harpy with a big mouth. And oh yeah, she then has sex with them to death.
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With Harrison Ford riding a nuclear bomb ala Dr. Strangelove into a fridge!
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cant wait for the harrison part
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"...not to go and see this if it's as fucking dreadful as the last one".And I have to agree, 'Temple' is unwatchable. The irritating Asian kid, the crap plot, the worse script and not forgetting the totally irrelevant mine-car sequence. Just fucking awful. Not as bad as 'Lost World' though. Spielberg wants shooting for that turd.
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Sep 15, 2009 2:13:11 PM CDT
And here's the REAL line-up of Indy films in order of greatness:
by biggusdickus
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What better send off can there be for Indy over the last shot of him riding of into the sunset ala TLC?
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i am truly blown away by all the people who like temple of doom. that movie is garbage.
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Sep 15, 2009 2:29:03 PM CDT
p.s. the raft fall in temple is NOT plausible
by nerd_rage_retard_strength
not at all. why don't you give it a try and see? if you think its plausible. it is just as silly as the fridge.
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Sep 15, 2009 2:31:33 PM CDT
p.p.s. all of the indy films are implausible
by nerd_rage_retard_strength
they are all very cartoony and unrealistic. so nitpicking the aliens or the monkeys or the fridge in crystal skull is kinda pointless. indy films are not realistic at all.
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Kingdom was a friggin embarassment of prequel proportions
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Dried up old talent from old out of touch man children like Lucas and Spielberg is to blame.
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better to Indy than CGI. That's just a fact. CGI Prairie Dogs added nothing to the film except groans from anyone with taste.
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i don't know. skull is not really different than any other indy film. i think its just nostalgia that makes people think temple is better. you all saw temple when you were kids.
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were in the film for all of 30 seconds
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And a poor one at that. That's my main gripe with KotCS. And I like the first two Mummies, but I expect more from Indian Jones, Spielberg, and Ford. Not, Lucas, because, well just because.
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I thought Ford did a great job though, but he was killed by the lackluster and dumb plot and terrible writing, and rotten CGI and an unnecessary Shia. Other than that, well it sucked. TOD was great because it was a helluva joy ride. Implausibilty means nothing in an Indy movie - unless the movie sucks. The fridge scene was latched onto not just because it was motarded, but because it was a symbol of all that was bad about that movie. Yes, no way he could have done the rollercoaster leap in TOD or even the life raft, but TOD rocked hard in pure entertainment. KOTC just sucked.
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better than cgi effects is proof that your opinion is clouded by nostalgia. i personally can't beleive that the debate over practical or cgi effects is still going on today. that is so 1999
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Raiders - Doom - Skull - Crusade.
At least Skull had Ford playing Indy and not some lame sidekick to Connery's schtick.
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like practical special effects? that is a retarded statement. and that is coming from someone with retard in his name...
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So, yes practical effects over cgi is a valid argument when discussing the series. And I will take Ford looking at a real snake though a plate of glass over a cgi fake snake any day. Yes, you can tell the difference.
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Sep 15, 2009 2:49:07 PM CDT
Rather buffoon Sallah than Zombie Marion
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Not too mention, unnecessary Mutt.
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to fully rape a franchise. Those obviously CGI dogs are at the heart of what is wrong with Indy 4...Cold, souless and unnecessary.
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In the Target Special Indy IV set, there was a photo book companion, and in it you can see the crew shooting a real prairie dog as it comes out of its hole out in the desert. There are lights and a camera and c-stands and crew members standing around. But for whatever reason, they went CGI. Maybe the prairie dog wouldn't act the way it was supposed to, but based on this photographic evidence, it looks like they DID at least try to shoot it practically. So I'll lay off the criticism regarding that animal.
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Reduced her to a retarded annoying constantly screaming dingbat. That alone is one solid reason to hate Skull.
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just to piss off internet whiners? I thought that was the whole point of the opening Paramount logo dissolve, 'making a mountain out of a molehill'.
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that Raiders is far superior to any of the sequels. all the debate is over which of the sequels is better than which. (except for that insane person who said he like temple of doom better than Raiders)
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Or do you mean yelling at Indy?
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"Does this mean George is going solo as a screenwriter? I sure hope so. I also hope Spielberg's positive experience with performance capture on TINTIN means we'll get our first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location."
In the last ten years, two things have been proven over and over again and George Lucas has been instrumental in both cases.
a) He can't write for shit. The last three Star Wars movies and the last Indiana Jones and the Kingdom Of The Crystal Bollox prove that beyond any doubt. He seems hell bent on spending the second half of his career destroying his legacy. Basic screenwriting concept - Don't craft universes with rules, then throw the rules out when they don’t suit you. Indy's always been a skeptic, but it’s hard for him to ignore a city-sized U.F.O. Lifting off, no matter how bad the effect. I heard Spielberg fought hard not to include this. My personal favorite; the force is not a mystical energy field that surrounds us and binds us, it’s actually made up of little creatures that sound about as dangerous as plaque. Writers only throw out the rules when they no longer care or it's too hard to come up with better ideas.
2) CGI is still a fledgling technology. It has come a long way and made amazing strides, but it’s also been overused by lazy, unimaginative directors. Creating false cityscapes can look convincing (Zodiac), or monumentally crap (Attack Of The Clowns). No filmmaker worth their salt would opt for CGI, if real backgrounds were an available option. The answer here lies in the details. Real things look "realer"... is that a word? It also helps the actors. Just consider the caliber of actors and the performances delivered in the Star War’s prequels.
There is a great paragraph in Peter Nichol's book "Fantastic Cinema" on P98, that always comes to mind:
"If fantasy cinema has a saviour, George Lucas is it. By shifting it's emphasis away from adult complication to childlike simplicity, he may also prove to be it's destroyer, but I doubt it. We must wait and see."
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but, at least they had marion in skull. i was always pissed that she wasn't in any of the earlier sequals. she is by far the best "indy girl".
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Sep 15, 2009 3:00:23 PM CDT
The original is the best - that's kind of a given...
by cheyne_stoking_dms
rarely is the sequel better than the original.
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as much as I loved seeing Karen Allen (she was so hot in Animal House) I want to see that great character who can outdrink anyone not the twit they turned her into.
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Marion is not constantly screaming like Capshaw in Temple of Doom. In fact, I don't think Marion screamed ONCE in Crystal Skull.
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but that's how clouded my memory is because I hated so much how she was being portrayed.
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Sure, she's not the hard-drinking woman she once was (she does have a son now and had to grow up, it seems), but she still had that fire in her, and THAT was what I liked seeing, the bickering and insults she continued to hurl Indy's way. They still have that great love/hate rapport and I think they recaptured that chemistry pretty well. That said, there really wasn't much else there for her to do, but what she did felt like the same old Marion to me.
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in the back of the truck, when they were all captured
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from all the drinking she did in the past. she has a touch of brain damage...
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How's that for an obscure reference?
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I really do envy anyone who loves Indiana Jones as much as I do and really enjoyed Crystal Skull. But, for me it was a huge disappointment. I have yet to watch it again on DVD. Who knows maybe it will play better the second time around. I doubt it, though.
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Ha! Well played, sir. You win an all expenses paid vacation to the Starcave of Thonboka.
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works every time...
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Who is also an archeologist, except evil, and thus a great nemesis for Henry jr.
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I've watched it on DVD a couple of times since seeing it in the theater and can say that the good things about the film seem better but the bad things are a lot worse, so it will probably just hammer home whatever opinion you had of the movie to begin with.
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I kind of figured that. That's why it's not on my Netflix list. Probably just wait til it reaches basic cable in a couple years.
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but it will take more thought than the George/Steven toss offs, those I wrote in 5 minutes while answering phones in my office....Harrison, well Harrison deserves some extra special.HEY ORCI...If you are lurking around here....DO YOU SEE THAT...5 fucking Minutes and my shit is better received than yours...and I'm not even a professional script writer...Fucking HACK!
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Opps wrong movie. Who misses playing Doom though?
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this Indiana Jones movie and convince Lucas to write and edit the next 3 Star Wars movies, numbers VII, VIII, and IX. Get old Hamill and old Fisher and pit the New Republic and Jedi Order up against something from outside the galaxy far, far away. Or do another Sith deal. Whatever.
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Nobody, but nobody, wants anymore Star Wars. Fucking EVER.And this is a sit full of fanboys, dude.
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Is the South Park episode that rips on Indiana Jones available to watch online anywhere? Anyone seen it?
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good things need their time to be done.
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http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/187260
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I disagree with getting the guy from Hangover.
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just fucking with you!
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i love that southpark
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"You shoulda put me through College Indy, now I make big pwoblem = hiiiii yaa!!!!"
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Sep 15, 2009 4:59:28 PM CDT
SHORT ROUND - STUDENT DURING MAO'S CULTURAL REVOLUTION.
by gibsonusa returns
That's perfect. Or...a teaching assistant or even a young professor or something.
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Indy abandoned Shorty to go crusading with his dad....Lao Che enters and brainwashes.
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i prefer they make a movie based on the Tales of the Gold Monkey cult tvseries,instead of a new indiana jones sequel.
ford is too old now,lucas and spielberg are going to fuck again the new indy movie,shia doesnt seem to carry on the role of Indy in a future movie and frankly i dont see the point,why we shouldnt get a new,alternative franchise.
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Also, Olmec.
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Sep 15, 2009 5:37:10 PM CDT
Does anyone even LIKE Indiana Jones in the first place?
by takingscorpioscalls
I must have jumped on the bandwagon, because i personally never even gave a shit about the cliffhanger hero to be honest. Group think really does brainwash you without knowing it. Was always more into Star Wars OT.
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1.Doom 2.Raiders 3.Crusade 4.Was there another entry in the Indiana Jones series? I cannot recall at this time.
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Funniest fuckin line I've read all day: (Kate to Steven) "I have not seen a hard-on like that since we banged in Ke Huy Quans trailer on the set of Indy 2". KU-fuckin-DO's!
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you, too, $pielberg.
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cannever tell in this fuckin place. Raiders was, and probably still is, my favorite movie of all time. Therefore, Indy as a character has been a character I "liked" for a very long time. So, yes, there are people who like Indiana Jones. I was born in '77 and remember seeing ROTJ in the theaters and playing with Star Wars toys growing up and liking all three of the movies. But Me and SW didn't bond the way be and Raiders did.
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he way ME and Raiders did.
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Sep 15, 2009 6:00:31 PM CDT
Lao Che to Luca$ and $pielberg on KOTC and returning for Indy V
by finky089
"NICE TRY, ASS HOLES!"
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Sep 15, 2009 6:04:50 PM CDT
Would love to see the TB the day George Lucas kicks the bucket
by finky089
There's all these "RIP Swayze" posts and honorable mentions of his movies. Why do I get the feeling Lucas' obit Tb will be full of posts like "George, prepare to meet Jar Jar Binks- IN HELL, FUCKER!" and "George finally got the treatment his new Indy sequels never got- being buried where no one will ever have to see them again." As much as we like and like to argue about the man and his work and the works he influence, I have a feeling his obit will get nasty.
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Heresy! Your mis-spelling of the word "site" betrays your hidden desire to see even more Star Wars. Take a little poll: Who would rather seen Indiana Bones and the Temple of the Depends Undergarments or Episodes VII, VIII, and IX. (*hint--If you answer anything other than Episodes VII, VIII, and IX, you are lying and God shall smite thee)
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Indy's got no help. In all the others, he's got lotsa people on his side. In TOD he's got a little kid and a whiny Missourian. That's what makes it so much more badass. And you're NOT supposed to like Willie. They couldn't just invent another Marion so they went in the opposite direction. Temple of Doom = The epitome of the Indiana Jones experience.
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You know the one. The one where Indy has his shirt torn, machete in hand, standing at the threshold of some ruined, blocky doorway, a fiery red color emanating from the Temple below and behind him. The tagline: "If Adventure Has a Name, its Indiana Jones" BADASS.
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Alright retards, you make NO fucking sense. How are aliens worse than a guy ripping out a still-beating heart while its owner watches? Not at all and because its only a fucking movie.
It's also laughable that none of you morons are aware of the pop-culture fascination with aliens in the 1950's. Shut your holes and enjoy life for a fucking change. Go back to school, that might help.
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I bonded with SW way more growing up in the 80s/90s, even though i've been shaped by the groupthink of the internet to be into Indy, i distinctly remember pre-internet i didn't like Indy. Just seemed bland compared to epic starships and aliens. My family on the other hand was more into Indy than SW.
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I had a replica hanging in my room until it was in tatters.
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That poster is the first one I EVER remember seeing.
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My dorm room was actually very orange in color. I had that TOD poster, one of The Goonies posters that had some heavy orange and brown colors, a Fight Club poster with the title in orange... Still out of all them, the TOD poster was the best.
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Very awesome. I gotta say, anyone who prefers Crystal Skull over Temple of Doom has seriously poor taste. Or brain damage, like poor Karen Allen.
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Fine, I will. Dude, Beaks was being SARCASTIC.
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The only way I'll see this, George.
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After Jones IV how can they even consider this?
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After Jones IV how can they even consider this?
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Raiders is also my favorite movie, hands down. I walked out of the theater having seen it for the first time when I was 8 years old and was completely blown away. I've watched it easily over 100 times and (some might say this is a bit pathetic) I can probably recite the entire film line for line. That movie is one of the main reasons I went to film school. (The fact that I still have yet to make a feature length film and instead make a living producing crappy television is slightly embarrassing.) Raiders is a nigh perfect movie in almost every way.
TakingScorpiosCalls, your question was foolish.
D.Vader, that awesome Temple of Doom poster still hangs in the front hallway of my house to this day. A lot of my movie posters went into storage when I got married. That was not one of them. -
"Get off my lawn you damned dirty apes!!!!!!!"
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It is an actual adventure, and is well crafted and full of energy and fires on all cylinders and is actually worth seeing. Doom is my favorite, and Crystal Skull is fucking pathetic. The best part is that all the good faith people had for Indiana Jones was lost by witnessing the last abortion, and the suits are going to expect at least as much cash to be raked in as at the last outing and they are going to get fucking raped. If only they could lose the rights like T4 did, or if somehow Lucas could have some of his ludicrous wealth tied up in the next movie - that would be most excellent.
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catching up, and saw his Spielberg view, not quite as funny as GL, but still very funny and eagerly awaiting the Harrison Ford chapter. Hopefully it will involve piles of cash and pushing Spielberg to get Megan Fox into the next one, so he can take a crack at her and move on from the skin and bones he is currently with.
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I've seen it as many times and can pretty much recite the movie line for line, too. I wen tthrough a 12 Step program for it, but I'm afraid I fell off the wagon long since then. Can you say what TV show you work on? It may not be writing films, but at least you are in the industry. I ended up in the mortgage industry! (wah-wah)
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Harrison Ford's bone, most likely.
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Sep 16, 2009 1:35:30 AM CDT
The problem with SHORT ROUND and MUTT together is...
by gibsonusa returns
...that imo 100% of the audience will be cheering for Short Round!
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that Shorty would be way too old acting like a kid for Indy's affection. He was already like 10 years old when we saw him in "1935". presumably Mutt was not even concieved until sometime in 1936- at earliest. Assuming the earliest Mutt could have been born was sometime in 1937, that puts him almost 12 years younger than Shorty. If the new Indy is set in 1960, that makes Shorty 35- roughly the same age Indy was in Raiders (minus 2 years). Mutt would be in his early 20's. No, if you want a better foil for Mutt competing for indy's attention, bring Willie back. She and Mutt can having a whining competition and both be $pielberg's sex toys. Bring back Shorty and have him now workinf for Lao Che. The Red Menace Lao Che, that is! As for Willie, "Kill da girl. I find anutter!"
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"I also hope Spielberg's positive experience with performance capture on TINTIN means we'll get our first Indiana Jones movie without a single practical location. This would be like a dream come true. "
#1 Motion capture involves filming actors and transfering their motions to CGI puppets. This has nothing to do with the background plate/'location'. So, right off the bat, you seem confused as to what you're trying to talk about.
#2 There have been a ton of other movies with, for all intents and purposes, no "practical locations"... Star Wars trilogy, that one with Gwyneth Paltrow and regurgitated Lawrence Olivier, Speed Racer (apparently?). Sequences with entirely non-practical backgrounds are easy to spot/non-convincing/very distracting. The monkey sequence in Indy 4? That was non-practical backgrounds.
So, you want Indy 5 to be all computer-generated, to what end? Why is that a dream come true? So that movies look more like video game cut scenes?
Why are you saying non-practical is better (in my mind, better=convincing as a place) than a real location shoot? What's the reasoning behind that statement?
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to jump start a new trilogy. The ending could have been Indy coming home from Mexico, and then some guy coming in and sending him off on a new adventure. The movie could have ended with Indy boarding a plane and then it flies. Similar to how Casino Royale ended with a cliff hanger.
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It's his only hit movie for the last 5 to 10 years. Ford used to be my favorite actor, and i didn't say star, i said actor. And Indiana Jones was the hero for which all else was measured up against and found wanting. And now...... and now we got that "The Kingdom Of Crystal Skullfuck" bullshit! Fuck this shit, man! I welcome a new indiana jones movies as i welcome the H1N1 cold virus. Fuck it, man! Fucking disapointment, man! To call the last two Indy movies disapointing is to be too kind to them. Screw this shit!
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No it wasn't.
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Sep 16, 2009 2:25:50 AM CDT
Bring back everyone for 5. Indy, Mutt, Sallah, Marion
by lockesbrokenleg
Short Round, Willie Scott (she'd still be alive), Lao Che, son of Belloq, everyone!
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Sep 16, 2009 2:28:42 AM CDT
Lao Che has been 1-0 on Indy for over 2 decadess now.
by gibsonusa returns
It's very important that Indy does not decisively beat Lao in Indy 5.
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For precisely that reason. Also, he still owes Dan Ackroyd that gin.
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Make it "darker" and "grittier". In short, kill of Shia's character in the first five minutes, then have Indy go all Liam Neeson in Taken and just beat the living fuck out of people for the next 90 minutes. Give Indy his balls back and cut loose his turd of a son.
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Sep 16, 2009 3:17:57 AM CDT
Lao Che kills Mutt, Indy goes to China and finds Short Round.
by gibsonusa returns
There. Perfect.
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it's hard to fathom that the 95% of hateful comments on this site are from anything other than douche's who get their rocks off complaining.
if hitchcock's psycho were released today, they'd be complaining that it was in b&w, didn't show a single boobie and that the ending was "lame".
a citizen kane talkback would result in people bitching about "a f***ing sled?!?!?"
was indy 4 perfect? far from it but i still enjoyed the snot out of it.
people complaining that aliens/inter-dimensional beings not belonging in an indy movie because it takes away from the realism?
these the same folks that bought into a magic chest that carries the 10 laws of god, 6 of which are redundant?
the same folks that bought into magic rocks that could bring water to a village?
the very same people people who believed his globe hopping for a mythical cup, from a mythical story, that would give a drinker immortality?
could indy 4 have been better? sure. would it ever live up to the hype? no. hell, i'd wager that in an alternate reality where ROTLA, by FAR the best of the 4, were not the 1st movie and senior spielbergo had delivered it exactly as is as the 4th flick, all of the talkbacks would be just as negative.
but back to the topic of indy 5. yup, sure am looking forward to it.
but as much as they want to keep indy in his timeline, meaning the 50's/60's, and have bad guys other than nazi's, indy will always be at his best when he's besting nazi's.
so why not have indy's mcguffin lead him to south america where he goes head to head with nazi's that escaped to argentina and are in pursuit of said mcguffin that will help them reestablish the third reich? someone earlier mentioned the spear of destiny, that would fit right in.
an avid indy fan
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That Temple of Doom poster is legendary, so iconic it hurts. One of the greatest movie posters of all time.
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There were things to like (the first 20 mins or so, up until that infamous fridge shit), but It felt out of place with the previous ones for me. Also dissapointed in Spielberg, I dont think he has these type of films in him anymore. An Indy 5 could be good, but does anyone think Lucas, and Spielberg still have it in them anymore? Maybe its time to give Indy to someone new, recast Indy and show us all the adventure we never got to see imho....
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Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
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Childhoods, adulthoods, wallets, paypackets... He'll fucking rape them all.
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And claiming that Crystal Skullfuck failure is better then Temple Of Doom? Do this people even like movies?
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Spuielberg was far more the problem that caused the Crystal Skullfuck failure then Lucas. And you have no idea how much it pains me to say this. But that's how it is.
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Didn't they say the same thing for the last fucking movie?
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I never chime in this far down in a talk-back, but I love Indy way too much not to throw in my two cents. Nobody could have been more disappointed by Indy 4 than me (walked out wondering how it is that the National Treasure movies were better than what George and Steve came up with. WTF) That doesnt mean there isnt a good older Indy movie to be made. Dont leave off with Indy 4, please. It wasn't terrible, but it was mediocre, and that's somehow worse for Indiana Jones. There is a great movie there - one that acknowledges Indy's age, plays up the value of wisdom, and is still kick ass. The alien angle wasn't the problem with the last one - it kinda worked. And what did fail has been well documented before (fridges, monkeys, tarzan swings, Shia LeBeuf, snake ropes, the fact that it should have been called Indiana Jones and the Inconsistantly Magnetic Skull). I still have faith. C'mon George and Steve. Just do the damned thing and don't ever go "we need a silly little moment here". Humor is great. Silly moments pull you out of the movie, and drag it down into mediocrity.
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Orcus thrives on them :)
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Damn claws
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to Psycho and Citizen Kane. Your argument is seriously flawed. If it looks like shit, smells like shit and tastes like shit then it is shit and Crystal Skullfuck was total shit.
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but hearts are ripped out of chest cavities by BARE HANDS isn't?
KotCS was mostly good until Mutt showed up. Then it took a nose dive. Still, there were some moments that worked, just not nearly enough. This is Indiana Jones. The whole thing should work. -
And just a chance to rehash old arguments against KOTC. Well, I've said my piece already - no thank you.
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*Faints*
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You do realize that was a joke, right? You get jokes, no?
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I agree with him on Skull, but he had serious issues with the father/son dynamic in Crusade, which i personally enjoyed.
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bring back Jar-Jar.
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Yeah I said it. And Fillion not as Indy, but as Mutt.
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finky089, I'm a gun for hire, AKA "freelance", so I bounce around. I've run the gamut from Before They Were Rock Stars to LA Ink to nature shows for the Discovery Channel to I Love the 80s, 90s, etc. The fascinating and exotic world of basic cable! I like to think I'll make a movie before I die though.
TakingScorpiosCalls, yes it was. You don't often have a talkback with close to a 1000 posts (much less 4 enormous blockbuster movies) about a character nobody likes. Let it go.
GibsonReturns USA, I'd say Lao Che and Indy are tied. He killed one of Che's sons with a flaming skewer of ducks to the chest before jumping out the window of Club Obi Wan. -
You can't even begin to compare the difference between the heart ripped by hand in Temple Of Doom with the Nuke The Fridge stuff in Crystal Skullfuck. It's like to compare the differenc ebetween the size of a house with the size of the solar system. The differences are ABYSMAL. The amount of wrong that is in the Nuke The Fridge scene shouldn't even be open to discussion, it should be more then obvious. No amount of "it's just a movie" can justify that shit! It's beyond excuse! A movie can be killed by bullshit like this. and that's not the only problem that Crystal Skullfuck has, quite the contrary, that is just the begining. And it breaks my heart that it's an Indiana Jones movie!
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Actually, i hate Last Crusade a little bit less then Crystal Skullfuck. But i hav eno sympathy for a movie that turned the Indiana Jones saga into a soap opera version of Raiders.
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until the next Indy 5 TB. Save previous scenes for reference.
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Sep 16, 2009 1:33:14 PM CDT
Indy 4: Gave it a second chance. Still sucked crystal ass
by tedkordlives
C'mon conspiracy, bated breath here!
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cancer a second chance. Fuck hell no!!!
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The saddest thing is the trailer on my Tropic Thunder DVD. It makes Skull look like a fucking Indiana Jones movie, which of course it is not. This was accomplished by using voiceovers and scenes that were not in the finished film. Fucking liars and cheaters should be ashamed. Breaks my heart.
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has been dug up and replaced by a Rene Belloq 12 inch figure.
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The magic of trailers editing. They can make bad movies look good, and make good mvoies look like shit. I still can't believe i almost didn't got to watch Master & Commander, because that movie trailer was horrible. On the oposite side of the spectrum, pearl Harbor had one of the best trailers i ever seen. And the movie, well, how does the song say? It missed the mark a lot, baby.
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Sep 16, 2009 3:16:03 PM CDT
You know what was the scene in Indy 4 that hurt me the most?
by asimovlives
That scne when the head of the statue of Marcus Brody is shaken out of the rest of the statue and falls into the bad guys, and it's played for laughts. Least we forget, that character, Marcus Brody, was played by an actor who is already dead. In a scene before, they played great reverence to Indy's dad, played by an actro who is still alive. but for Marcus, it was all good for a jolly silly cheap gag joke! I felt insulted to the bottom of my soul. This is the fucking spirit from which this movie was made.And people ask me why i fucking hate this movie?
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Doom kicks the living shit out of Crusade and anyone who says otherwise doesn't truly 'get' Indy. As for Skull, it's a nothing movie. It adds nothing. The Star Wars prequels were flawed, but they didn't re-tread old ground, and they tried to inform/subvert the existing movies. Skull is like a vestigial extra finger, hanging limply on to a series that was already tied up quite nicely in the final shot of Crusade. The Indy films are separate adventures with little or no continuity, so there's absolutely no need for another unless it's really, really good.And if we're to assign an order of blame for Skull it's indisputably, from most guilty to least - Spielberg; Ford; Lucas. Indy 5 - thanks, but no thanks, Harrison. You were once the coolest cat on earth (77-85); now you are the textbook definition of phoning it in, a dull old husk of an actor.
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"Let it go." Hey you responded.
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Both the fridge and the heart ripping are improbable. Just because you have a hard on for hyperbole doesn't make one zanier than the other.
Also, the greatest, most human, sequence of the Darabont script was Indy getting drunk and talking to the statue of Marcus. That was poignant. It was sad to see that get axed. -
did we ever figure out what the fuck is up with Ford's delivery in the very first scene? From the time he gets out of the trunk he has this weird, hammy, John Wayne-esque delivery and then they get into the warehouse and BAM! It's gone as quick as it arrived.
He doesn't talk like this the entire rest of the film. Was that an ADR thing or what? -
Damn that sounds interesting and poignant. I miss it and I know nothing about it.
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Yeah. He reminisces and such. It was awesome. That draft also featured a feisty Marion instead of the doe-eyed moron Marion.
Spielberg liked it, Ford liked it, and Lucas had problems with it. I wish they'd have just cut him off of the project. -
Yeah, I noticed it too. Took me right out of the movie right off the bat. And Asi, yeah, that was a disrespect to Marcus the character and Denholm Elliot the actor who played him. Indy getting drunk and talking to the statue would've been great. So naturally, it's out. And wtf happened to Marion? All grins and goofy delivery. Sucks.
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so Spielberg could say "Oh yeah, that was where Harrison had to redub his lines and completely overacted." Or "This is where I specifically told Harrison to use this weird accent he never uses again."
Not knowing will forever piss me off. -
Aid our own re-sus-ci-tation.
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Were the sweeping scenery shots. Alot of the shots in Peru and surrounding locations had that boxed in look that focused to much on the principals. That and the graveyard looked too much like a set trying not to look like a set. At least in Raiders, we had these great sweeping shots of Cairo. THAT bugged Orcus the most, the lack of scope
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but you are dead on with the graveyard scene.
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The Genie is out of the bottle on that one. Face it, if we went back to the methods of 20+ years ago, folks would find a new reason to bitch :) The Flooding of the temples was rather good though although it would be interesting in what a practical effect shot of that might look like
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the car straddling, vine swinging shit. No good. The motorcycle/car chase scene through the university, my favorite part.
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What bothered me about the jungle chase was that the backgrounds looked CG/ touched up...but it was filmed on location.
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Was the only natural looking chase!
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You're absolutely right, the backgrounds did look bad, which just added to the awful decisions of car straddling/vine swinging. I mean, did they think that through?
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Bingo! Which is why I liked it. It *felt* like an Indy film to me during that scene.
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You felt that at some point someone might fuck up and get hurt. Orcus has to admit that he did like the warehouse chase though. Models and all
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