Sept. 13, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST
At first I thought HEROES, but then it sounded a tad BSG-like... <br>Wherever it's from, it certainly sounds *familiar*. Kinda distracting.
Sept. 13, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST
jump from planes.
Sept. 13, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST
How many more stories can possibly be told about this? Do the Germans and Japanese get residuals from all these movies and television shows?
Sept. 13, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST
by Captain Happy
This is gonna be good. "Band of Brothers" kicked all kinds of ass & was a revelation in any kind of filmed entertainment, let alone cable...looking forward to this one.
Sept. 13, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST
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Sept. 13, 2009, 6 p.m. CST
by Adelai Niska
William Sadler. That guy just improves things.
Sept. 13, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST
gets me to actually pay for HBO. Band of Brothers was great and there is no way this won't be awesome. Who gets tired of WWII entertainment. Get a dick.
Sept. 13, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST
by White Goodman
The guys fucking rocks. He even made Roswell somewhat watchable.
Sept. 13, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST
by White Goodman
I can't wait to watch this shit.
Sept. 13, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST
Jesus fucking christ the goddamned thing ended over SIXTY years ago. Give it a GODDAMNED REST!
Sept. 13, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST
I'm really not seeing any actors stand out in these trailers, in the same way Damian Lewis did in BoB. It all seems from a younger pov except for a geezer here or there. But I know it's just a trailer so still hoping.
Sept. 13, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST
Just a little.
Sept. 13, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST
The cast of Band of Brothers were amazing, down to a man, they just fitted (with perhaps the exception of Hanks Jnr and Schwimmer but that was kinda the idea). Let's hope that kind of lightning strikes twice.
Sept. 13, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST
by I am_NOTREAL
was one of the best TV productions ever. If this is only half as good, it'll still be worth watching.
Sept. 13, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST
Hopefully this new series can hope to match it.
Sept. 13, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST
But Im still waiting for someone in Hollywood with the balls to tell us all about the political shenanigans that went on before and during WW2 that made it not only likely and easier to happen in the first place but also a less romanticized history. Some stuff I can barely swallow still just thinking about it. Too much betrayal went on... Ive only seen a couple docus with that courage. Check out the recent BBC docu on Dunkerk. Mind boggling that we knew so little about that story for so long. WW2 was an epic event but there are myths about it that must be broken. Its not the ludicrous absurd war that WW1 was but damn close in many ways.
Sept. 13, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST
The American side has been overdone, it's now snoozefests. I want to see a shrieking Hitler and a sweating Stalin ordering millions of Hanss and Ivans to kill the shit outta one another just short of the Kremlin spires. I want to see a frozen wasteland while their fingers break off like ICICLES fro holding guns. I want to see the ghostly orange light at Stalingard created from all the smoke and dust from nonstop bombing, i want to see nazi and soviet tanks smashing into one another on the grassfields of Kursk because they cant see shit with all the smoke and wreckage gawdammit!
Sept. 13, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST
You can't over do this, there's just no getting around how bad ass it is to see us at our finest, really putting our necks on the line against the real deal axis of evil, keep em coming
Sept. 13, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST
Sept. 13, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST
Hopefully its on level with Band of Brothers.
Sept. 13, 2009, 11:48 p.m. CST
by Margot Tenenbaum
...a World War II film about Mussolini's Italy. You never hear about that bit of the war in the popular culture.
Sept. 14, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST
a long fucking ways to beat the cast of BOB. That cast was fucking epic in every way possible. BOB was damn near perfect. Here's hoping lightning strikes twice, indeed.
Sept. 14, 2009, 1:34 a.m. CST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd9fAotFHkc <p> I'm telling you Scott can play any WWII figure, he's like mr. potato head.
Sept. 14, 2009, 1:35 a.m. CST
by The Dark Shite
Sept. 14, 2009, 1:37 a.m. CST
He was like a robot in battle.
Sept. 14, 2009, 1:58 a.m. CST
....combined with overblown personal melodrama.<P>Oh, wait.... so was 'Pearl Harbour'....<P>Anyway, looks like something that will be worthwile to see, and the 'Pacific'-set segments look terrific.
Sept. 14, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST
....is not ruined by an overly, sentimental music score throughout in this.
Sept. 14, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST
Sure, it was impressive. Big budget. Great cast, imagery, music. But it totally left me cold on a character level. I didn't care much for the characters. And I don't remember the name of any of the protagonists. They were neither interesting nor sympathetic and I found it hard to invest in them emotionally. Saving Private Ryan had the same problem to some extent. Storytelling and characterizatiom were very vague, at least to vague for me to like the whole thing.
Sept. 14, 2009, 2:44 a.m. CST
...is also one of the fucktards, like shogunshin, who constantly rants about Jews and conspiracies so he does have an ax to grind. <p> Oh, and anyone who was "left cold" by Band of Brothers has serious problems.
Sept. 14, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST
by Monkey Butler
Looses is a word.
Sept. 14, 2009, 5:15 a.m. CST
by The Dark Shite
Looses? What does that mean?<p> Loosens is a word. Loses is a word. Releases is a word. No such thing as looses.
Sept. 14, 2009, 5:16 a.m. CST
Sorry MacReady452, but I don't think people died in WWII for our "entertainment", especially in a movie based on historical events. <P> If you think war is such a video game, maybe you should enlist if you haven't already. I am sure you could ask Xiphos_2 for the name of a good Marine recruiter.
Sept. 14, 2009, 5:21 a.m. CST
But I will say these two trailers left me feeling cold. They were way to bombastic and melodramatic and dripped with "importance." I am hoping this series is more like Band of Brothers, showing the low-key bravery and simple fact they thought they were doing there job, and not some stupid heroic "war porn" movie that the Beard sometimes makes. <p> The WWII leathernecks, Soldiers and sailors deserve to be saluted, and the best salute I can think of is a story that tries to stick to the truth of what it was like to be fighting against the Japanese army (not that I have any fucking clue what was like).
Sept. 14, 2009, 5:31 a.m. CST
PAVLOV'S HOUSE in 2011 or 2012 I believe. Talk to caruso_stalker about the details.
Sept. 14, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST
Oh, I agree. I don't find these trailers to be anywhere near as gripping as the original BoB. I will reserve judgment however until I've seen it, since the original was so great.
Sept. 14, 2009, 5:39 a.m. CST
by Monkey Butler
Looses, as in the verb 'to loose': 'the archer looses an arrow', 'Mr Burns looses the hounds' etc.
Sept. 14, 2009, 5:48 a.m. CST
I liked the Battle of the Bulge part-but I kept thinking as I watched it-okay this is shot Inside, those trees are Fake, etc. That and the fact I kept seeing one of the New Kids on the Block in it just took me outta the action. <p> There wasn't anything WRONG w/ it, mind---but it had a been there/done that air to it for me. <p> Yes I had uncles who did that basic run from Normandy to Germany, so don't start-I do fully acknowledge the content being important. <p> I did like the arkansas guy who went on to be a bigtime construction type--reminded me of Bulldozer from those old Sgt Rock comics. Sad I know. <p> A series like this about Korea would be worthy.
Sept. 14, 2009, 6:05 a.m. CST
by The Dark Shite
I've never once heard anyone use the term "looses". <p> Maybe I'm dumb, (as an English Teacher I hope not), but I've never heard that. There is a term "to let loose" but not "to loose". <p> There certainly isn't a verb "To loose", unless it's archaic. There's a verb "To loosen" but not "to loose".<p> Either way, even if it existed, it still wouldn't apply in the context of releasing a trailer.
Sept. 14, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST
Seriously, "HBO looses a second trailer"? Almost sounds as far reaching as entertainment journalist's use of "Skein". <br><br> Beyond that, this mini-series can't come fast enough
Sept. 14, 2009, 6:29 a.m. CST
by Captain RawBeard
I loved Band of Brothers and cant wait for Pacific, I would like to see a British series done in the same vein. My great grandad had some amazing stories to tell, and my gran was in a bomb shelter that took a direct hit when she was a little girl.
Sept. 14, 2009, 6:46 a.m. CST
by Monkey Butler
From dictionary.com <p> –verb (used with object)<p> 20. to let loose; free from bonds or restraint.<p> 21. to release, as from constraint, obligation, or penalty.<p> 22. Chiefly Nautical. to set free from fastening or attachment: to loose a boat from its moorings.<p> 23. to unfasten, undo, or untie, as a bond, fetter, or knot.<p> 24. to shoot; discharge; let fly: to loose missiles at the invaders.<p> 25. to make less tight; slacken or relax.<p> 26. to render less firmly fixed; lessen an attachment; loosen.<p> <p> –verb (used without object) 27. to let go a hold.<p> 28. to hoist anchor; get under way.<p> 29. to shoot or let fly an arrow, bullet, etc. (often fol. by off): to loose off at a flock of ducks.<p> 30. Obsolete. to become loose; loosen.
Sept. 14, 2009, 7:35 a.m. CST
It's overdone because it's arguably the most important, traumatic event in human history so far.<p>I'm with some folks here that I would still like to see some movie about the war with varied, unexpected perspectives and characters. But it's okay to do these things, too. Also, while the war in europe has been the most focused on, the pacific war tends to not show up much.
Sept. 14, 2009, 7:59 a.m. CST
by The Dark Shite
Your dictionary definition says exactly what I said.. <p> In the definition it says "verb (used with object)" , which means there is such a thing as "To let loose" but not "To loose". <p> There is certainly no such word as "Looses". It simply doesn't exist.
Sept. 14, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST
31. to drop your guts; to loosen ones bowels 32. to blow chunks; to loosen the contents of ones stomach <p>to blow your load; to loosen ones semen all over anothers face <p>33. Hope that clears things up.
Sept. 14, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST
by The Dark Shite
I can't be bothered to argue about it. It isn't even important. But I've never heard anyone ever use the term "looses".<p> I don't care really. Just sounds weird to me. I'm gonna kick back, relax & "loose" my tie.
Sept. 14, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST
"Resurrection" from Passion Of The Christ - composed by John Debney Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli and Blake Neely are composing the score for the series. I wish more than ever that Michael Kamen was still with us :(
Sept. 14, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST
should be a . between "John Debney Hans Zimmer" or ideally, a fucking newline. stupid bloody comment box.
Sept. 14, 2009, 8:44 a.m. CST
by Monkey Butler
I know it's not important, but look at definitions 22 and 29.
Sept. 14, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST
As a Marine veteran I'm happy to see the level of quality of Band of Brothers focused on the the Marines in the pacific. I really don't think WWII can be overdone. As one of the worlds most important events every individual experience is a story worthy of telling. Not just from the eyes of those who fought, but those at home waiting, in bunkers starving, and those doing their part in whatever capacity. What I have seen of the trailer I like brief as it is. I like that they are including the emotional and mental cost of war. It's not something often depicted in WWII films due to the time and and sense of pride of that generation. We tend to romanticize WWII, and mid century Hollywood has helped that along, but war is horrific no matter what the title or time. For those that don't get it, please talk (listen) to a WWII vet or a vet of any war.
Sept. 14, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST
Even using that percussion (?) over quick cut scenes (around 0:34) that is used in just about every other trailer going back to X-3. I'm still really looking forward to this series but that's based on how great Band of Brothers was and not on this show's marketing.
Sept. 14, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST
by dale dragon
band of brothers was a great series... hopefully they follow the same setup, interviews with the real soldiers mixed with the show. I went a on a crusade to find the 2 guys from Philadelphia in BoB
Sept. 14, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST
comes but once a year, so smile and celebrate with joy and cheer!
Sept. 14, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST
Just to confirm what "syn_flood" already pointed out. Love that score, have listened to it alot. <p> But what's the music from the first trailer? Is it original music from the series, custom trailer music, or derived from somrthing else? <p> It's sounds a bit like Zimmer's Thin Red Line score, which makes me wonder if it may be music for the acually series seeing as Zimmer and Geoff Zanelli are doing it.
Sept. 14, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST
Just as Band Of Brother's surley were. From The Earth To The Moon was also extremely good. I didn't find John Adams to be on the same level of greatness, but it was still quite good. <p> When Hanks puts together a mini-series, I'm all the way in from the word go. He's earned that kind of trust.
Sept. 14, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST
I'd like to see something along these lines for WW1, but then again, it would be all about the Brits and French and the Yankees won't relate.<p> Seriously, this looks awesome.
Sept. 14, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST
by Chesterfield Slacks
It's about bloody time they have young actors portray young soldiers. The average age was mid-twenties, so when I see veteran actors pretending to be grunts, it just throws credibility out the window.
Sept. 14, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST
Someone please send Aldo Raine to Japan!!!!
Sept. 14, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST
...lacked in character development probably had a lobotomy at some point. I haven't seen a movie or TV show of any length that took you through the lives of it's characters better than Band of Brothers.
Sept. 14, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST
Anyone who defends the overuse of WWII themes needs to explain to me why we never see anything on WWI. That was the first war in history on that scale so it was even more shocking to people. And all the machinations that led up to it were so much more fascinating. Just because Empire Strikes Back was arguably a better movie than Star Wars, it doesn't mean you ignore the movie that set it all in motion. And WWII was definitely a sequel to WWI. I usually avoid WWII movies like the plague, but BOB was the best in the genre, so I may give this a try.
Sept. 14, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST
An episode showing the japanese side of things, like in Letters From Iwo Jima?
Sept. 14, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST
It's called "Nazis", you know, evil as fuck, and a threat to the entire world. WW2, in spite of all its horrors, showed a generation of young men laying it on the line to save the free world from pure, concentrated evil. Stalin was a butcher, but concentration camps and near-successful plans for world domination bring shit up to the next level. Granted, the "Greatest Generation" would also managed to give us institutionalized racism, the Cold War, Vietnam, LBJ, Nixon, and all that "Silent Majority" bullshit. But, let's give credit where credit's due. When it came to Hitler and Tojo, our boys stepped up to the plate. And, I think "Flags of Our Fathers" was, in a way, a more daring and thought-provoking film that challenged conventional notions of heroism. And TakingScorpiosCalls, three words: "Cross of Iron".
Sept. 14, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST
Can't wait to see that movie, a reteaming of Christian Bale with Werner Herzog. And because it's a Werner Herzog movie, and a Werner Herzog war movie.
Sept. 14, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST
was fucking treat!
Sept. 14, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST
It's about the MARINES, not the Japanese army -- just like the original was about U.S. SOLDIERS and not about the German army. <p> Duh.
Sept. 14, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST
Band of Brothers is the greatest 10 hour movie about WWII ever. No way this can be as good, it just can't. Is this being based off a book of some kind? That's the real strength of BOB.
Sept. 14, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST
Wasn't Pekinpah the first American to make a WWII movie about the eastern front, in the 70s no less.
Sept. 14, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST
Because America only came in at the end to tip the scale, so more studios don't really care about that, they want wars where America gave more contribution. Now i wouldn't be surprised if Europe has been making far more WWI movies than here.
Sept. 14, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST
I'm getting that Michael Bay feel here. Lots of debris and shrapnel in the air which adds to the war porn factor. They can't wow on the SPR style war effects anymore, it better be on heck of a great storyline.
Sept. 14, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST
by Conqueror Worm
...with 'Paths of Glory'</p> One of the greatest (anti) war films ever put to celluloid.</p> ...and yes, Hollywood should make a lot more WWI films than they do, whether America joined late or not.
Sept. 14, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST
<p>In fact, if you aren't goose stepping or wearing a Charlie Chaplin mustache, you can pretty much get away with anything these days because people no longer have an understanding of what evil is anymore. Especially since we've stepped into that "world domination" role.</p> <p>But it doesn't matter how bad the nazi's were, they could have leveled half the world and they'd still be overdone. It happened over 60 years ago and we still get at least dozen movies and video games a year on it. It's a psychotic obsession in this country that we need to move past.</p>
Sept. 14, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST
doesn't mean they will.
Sept. 14, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST
But All Quiet on the Western Front is better in my opinion.
Sept. 14, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST
The action compared to the total run time was some-what sparse, and was probably less than 10% of the total run time. It was very talky for a war movie. Most of the action set pieces were well talked up in advance, and then paid off with lengthy reflection and wound-licking afterwards. I only wonder (if by looking at the trailer), is if they abandoned the wide ensemble of BOB for a more focused on only a couple of characters. I don't want any artificial heroes, BOB showed that everybody who contributed was a hero.
Sept. 15, 2009, 1:31 a.m. CST
Could it be that maybe the US is so obsessed with WWII because it didn't do much else worth mentioning that century that at least at first glance can be held up in the light of day? So, have another good one.
Sept. 15, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST
I smell an Emmy. And a Golden Globe.
Sept. 15, 2009, 3:27 a.m. CST
Sam Fuller, veteran of ww2, was once asked on how one would give an audience a realistic portrayal of war. His response was something along the lines of "Show an audience any war picture - send in five guys with machine guns - lock the doors - you'll have a taste of what war is like." <p> For what it's worth, a co-worker back from Iraq, who never saw "action" but was involved in the clean-up after some of the bombings, said its the stench that you can't portray. His opinion.
Sept. 15, 2009, 3:34 a.m. CST
And World War 1 is by no means the only "forgotten" war. How many movies have been made about the 3 million dead in the Congo civil war? The Iran/Iraq war? The Colombia/FARC war? Loads o dead bodies out there, folks.
Sept. 15, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST
where are all the WW1 movies? Oh wait, America wasn't a huge influence on that. Fuckin wankers. Paths of Glory is still one of the greatest war movies of all time.
Sept. 15, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST
Sept. 16, 2009, 7:52 a.m. CST
The Korean War has often been called the forgotten war, too. And let's be honest, it's really true aside from MASH.
Sept. 16, 2009, 7:54 a.m. CST
also, WW2 remains fresh in people minds as the war of their fathers or grandfathers or great-grandfathers, even. WW1 is just too far removed for many.
Sept. 16, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST
This is number one on my very short list of "must-see" shows in 2010. "Band of Brothers" was fantastic on so many levels, moving and amazingly well-shot with a once-in-a-generation cast of actors, so "The Pacific," returning many of BoB's writers and directors, gives me goosebumps.<p> I'm hoping for the best.
Sept. 16, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST
WWII will overtake it. Vietnam war movies pretty much went out in a blaze of glory with the 1980s. But that grunt thing is boring. Heck even the best Vietnam movie Apocalypse Now was all about mythical and fantastical things, and it was just fine.
Sept. 17, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST
....somebody in staes or UK will make a movie about less known facts of WW2 history, like relations of Great Britain, United States, Soviet Union and Poland. It should be called The country that get screwed. Guess what country im talking about.
Sept. 17, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST
Stalin was a butcher, but he was your butcher. He started as an ally to Hitler, when Hitler decided to screw him over Churchill BEGGED him to join the allies. And soon he was the deciding ally. When 150 000 polish civilian pepole were slaughtered by germans durning Warsav Uprising Soviet forces stood by because Stalin wanted Poland for himself. And allies didn't do shit to help. But hell in 1943 Churchill and FDR basically decided that Stalin can have Poland for himself, but nobody besides thhem knew about this because FDR HAD A FUCKING ELLECTION IN 1944 AND WANTED POLISH MINORITY IN STATES TO VOTE FOR HIM. Polish prime minister found out about this in 1945 from mr. Molotov and mr. Churchill themselves. And, excuse me you didn't exactly "step the shit up" when it comes to concentration camps. Polish innteligence for months in 1943 was sending raports to british MI6, brits had to acknowledge that. And when they did, they didn't do shit. Americans also knew, and they didn't do shit. They could bomb the transport lines. I mean Berlin was bombarded wasn't it ? And when it comes to Stalin. Funny thing THERE WERE CAMPS in Soviet Union. Differences beetwen Concentration Camps an Gulags were this. Gulags killed more pepole, and were doing this years before and after the war. From 1918 to 1956 60 million pepole died in gulags, and 10 to 30 million durning transport. Learn your fucking history.
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