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From the D23 comes a Press Release on Zemeckis' YELLOW SUBMARINE Remake!
Hey folks, Harry here - I have to say, I've got a real positive attitude about this project. For the last 40+ years we've seen adaptations of YELLOW SUBMARINE - not in media, but in Merchandize. We've seen slot machines, a gorgeous Yellow Submarine model of Wurlitzer, those awesome toys, lava lamps, clothes, etc, etc, etc... This makes sense. This is an amazingly rich world, just looking at the Beatles Rock Band versions of this universe. Well, it feels like the most basic of attempts at it. The biggest news coming out of this release is that APPLE Corps has licensed the use of all the original songs from the film. What about the other music in the film? Or will Zemeckis pull a Scorsese and hire a composer to adapt that sound somehow for this remake - as Marty did in CAPE FEAR? I have a gorgeous IB Tech print of YELLOW SUBMARINE, I have animation cels from the original. And as a fan, honestly - I feel no hostility towards this, I'm genuinely giddy to just see what Zemeckis does with the capacity for extra detail. How much is he giving it? I don't know, but I can't wait. Zemeckis is a huge honking BEATLES geek... like the rest of us. Here's the release...
THE WALT DISNEY STUDIOS, THE BEATLES’ APPLE CORPS LTD. , AND OSCAR®-WINNING FILMMAKER ROBERT ZEMECKIS DIVE INTO NEW MAGICAL 3D ADAPTATION OF THE 1968 CLASSIC YELLOW SUBMARINE
Anaheim, California -- September 11, 2009 -- The Walt Disney Studios has made a deal with Apple Corps Ltd. to develop a new 3D performance capture adaptation of the 1968 hit animated film "Yellow Submarine" to be written and directed by Robert Zemeckis, it was announced today at the D23 Expo by Dick Cook, chairman, The Walt Disney Studios. The film will be created by ImageMovers Digital, Disney’s state-of-the-art performance capture animation studio operated in conjunction with Zemeckis and his partners, Jack Rapke and Steve Starkey, who will serve as producers on the project.
For this fantastic new voyage to Pepperland, Zemeckis will incorporate the16 Beatles songs and recordings from the original motion picture licensed from Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC and EMI-Capitol Records, respectively. The songs include “All Together Now,” “All You Need Is Love,” “Eleanor Rigby,” “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” and “With A Little Help From My Friends” while combining his unique vision and style to bring this dazzling tale to life.
In making the announcement, Cook said, “This is truly an inspired collaboration, and a wonderful opportunity to revisit one of the most imaginative and memorable musical fantasies of all time. To be working with the amazing folks at Apple Corps, and to have Bob helming the sub is truly as good as it gets. With all those incredible Beatles songs and imagery, the spectacular vision of Bob and his pioneering team at ImageMovers Digital, and a classic adventure full of wit and action, we’re sure that moviegoers are going to have a great time on this latest trip to Pepperland.”
Zemeckis said, “’Yellow Submarine’ is one of the greatest fantasy films of all time, and making this new 3D performance capture movie is a dream come true for me. With the latest advances in technology, we will be able to take moviegoers on a voyage unlike any other, and bring new excitement and dimension to Pepperland and the various sea worlds they encounter. I’m thrilled to be working with the good folks at Apple Corps and our partners at Disney on this epic retelling of one of my all time favorite films.”
Jeff Jones, CEO, Apple Corps Ltd., said, “With The Beatles and Walt Disney Studios, we have a partnership between two of the best loved creative entities in the world. We're very excited about the magical fantasy that will result from this collaboration. The marriage of the music of The Beatles with the talent and technical wizardry of Robert Zemeckis and ImageMovers Digital should produce something very special. We look forward to working with Bob and his team on realising his new vision for 'Yellow Submarine'”.
The original motion picture (released in the U.S. on November 13, 1968) based on the music of The Beatles was directed by George Dunning and featured the inspired art direction and design of Heinz Edelmann. The movie is set in Pepperland, an undersea paradise inhabited by music lovers who live in peace and harmony and are protected by Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. That is…until they are threatened by the music hating Blue Meanies. It’s up to John, Paul, George and Ringo to set off on a magical adventure in their yellow submarine and bring music and harmony back to Pepperland.
About The Walt Disney Studios
The Walt Disney Studios is a unit of The Walt Disney Company (NYSE: DIS) and produces and distributes motion pictures under the following banners: Walt Disney Pictures (which include live-action movies, animated feature films from Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar Animation Studios) as well as Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures and Miramax Films. Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures International serves as the Studio's international distribution arm. Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment distributes Disney and other film titles to the rental and sell-through home entertainment markets. Disney Theatrical Group is among the world’s most successful commercial theatre enterprises producing or licensing live entertainment events that reach a global annual audience of more than 20 million people in more than 40 countries, and the Disney Music Group distributes original music and motion picture soundtracks under its three record labels: Walt Disney Records, Hollywood Records and Lyric Street Records.
About Apple Corps. Ltd.
Apple Corps Ltd. was founded by The Beatles in 1968 to look after the group's own affairs. The London-based company has administered the catalogue of The Beatles releases of the 1960s that have sold to date more than 600 million records, tapes and CDs. Since the 1990s Apple has piloted new Beatles projects that have become benchmarks for pioneering accomplishment and which have included The Beatles Anthology projects, the 28 million-selling album The Beatles 1 and the The Beatles LOVE show and CD. Further information on The Beatles' projects can be found at http://www.thebeatles.com.
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Could be really cool. However, it is really not needed. I don't really see how it is bringing something new to the table like the LOVE show.
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Let's look at his recent output - Polar Express, Beowulf, A Christmas Carol, Yellow Submarine... remember when he used to make movies not based on or a remake of something? Even his bad live action flicks were interesting. Work with people again, Bob!
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the Beatles themselves are apparently an "IP." Hence the video games and CG cartoons being produced in a desperate attempt to extend the property's profitability. This has nothing to do with the Beatles as artists or even human beings. This is about holders of copyrights and likeness rights seeking new ways to make money from what they own.
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Hey, Flynn, where have you been the last week?
I have to say it would be a huge mistake not to adapt George Martin's score for the new film. I'm not just a Beatles fan who bought the remastered stereo and mono versions of their music, I have a tattoo of John Lennon on my arm and I have a son named Harrison and a daughter named McCartney. If this project is good enough for the people at Apple, then I have no complaints. -
for life and all time from me for his work on Back To The Future, along with solid work on projects like Cast Away, but christ I stopped reading at "Yellow Submarine is the greatest fantasy film of all time".
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I sure hope you are kidding about your kids' names. I'm not sure.
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...could potentionally be the scariest things to ever be seen in a movie EVER.
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When a filmmaker stops trying, you stop paying attention to him. It's an elegant, intuitive system.
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Subjects like "Greatest Fantasy Film of all Time" is an incredibly subjective thing. For Zemeckis to say that about YELLOW SUBMARINE (the original film) - a film that he's going to dedicate the next 3 years (at least) upon giving tribute and being inspired by. I believe that he could feel that way. In the same way that Peter Jackson still passionately affirms the fact that the 1933 KING KONG is still his favorite film - even though he took a whack at remaking it.
Arguments for YELLOW SUBMARINE as the "greatest fantasy film of all time" - well - first off, it is a wholly original fantasy tale that exists solely because a movie was made - and the songs were written for an album of the same name. The story is about the power of music to overcome a restrictive society. Great Fantasy theme. As a film - the look is like nothing we had seen on film before, ripped out of the imaginations of wondrous artists dreaming abstractly and surreally. Yet the film has emotion, suspense and jubilation. It is a perfect film.
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I love Yellow Submarine and am okay with the idea of a psychedelic Beatles animation, but a remake seems pointless. It's not like the Beatles were lacking in good material, so I don't need to hear the same songs from the original version all over again.
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Sep 12, 2009 5:32:48 AM CDT
Why not get a new band and do a new film INSPIRED BY Yellow Subm
by flynn_lives
By doing something that's creative or inventive in some way, you might actually honor the spirit of the Beatles and the era they represent.
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Tits to Zemeckis an his shiny new MoCap shenanigans and tits to tired old re-workings and re-imaginings.I want to see a full 3D masterpiece in the style of the Beatles Rock Band demo/trailer. Full on, with a run-through of all the hits instead of a re-hash of what has already been done.
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Far too easy. I'm glad I rented it instead of shelling ou $60. The graphics and sound were beautiful, but there was no real challenge. It needed Guitar Hero's brand of playing mechanics and the song listing could have been a lot better. Who wants to play Octopus' Garden? People might goof on these type of games ( I used to) but it is a great way to introduce your children to real music.
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Sep 12, 2009 5:55:55 AM CDT
It's still time to stop this, Hollywood!
by the_ad_wizard_who_came_up_with_this_one
Everyone knows the limitations of the shitty performance capture process. Do you really want to see John Lennon walk around as a lifeless zombie? It makes my skin crawl. Who seriously thinks this thing is a good idea?
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In my book a free pass is where a director or artist strikes such a chord with me with a piece of work that I will always try and take an active interest in their career and future pieces - not that I stop being objective or critical of them.
Headgeek: Certainly it's a subjective notion and I'm pretty sure the project won't come grinding to a halt just because I'm not crazy about it :) It's just that even at 27 (so not old enough to see it first time round) I've revisited these films and appreciate them for the cultural works they are. It's just as movie it left me cold - and made me want to switch the DVD off and stick my stereo on. Maybe I wasn't stoned enough...
Theres an amazing film with the Beatles music integrated crying to be made. I just hope being tied to Yellow Submarine doesn't restrict Zemeckis. I would rather a new project in the same vein incorporating a wider scope of the Beatles catalogue and the opportunity for a new narrative. Who knows what'll be like. I do have faith in the guy. -
Sep 12, 2009 6:40:36 AM CDT
The thing is, we are now innundated with fantastic imagery
by benbraddock
It's almost become commonplace. See the latest Coca Cola advert, for example. The fantastic is now mainstream. When "Yellow Submarine" came along, it presented us with imagery that was completely new - but a mo-cap, CG remake I guarantee you, will not.
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Why did Apple Corps. license this? well...Yoko will milk John's work for millions until her last breath. Harrison's widow is pissed off she wasn't the one George and Clapton both wrote songs about. Paul needs to make up money lost in the divorce from stumpy. Ringo...well he's Ringo, not a lot of options for him.
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The only reason anyone watches THE YELLOW SUBMARINE now (besides the great music) is to see the out-there imagery that is very much of that era, the weird psychedelia of that specific moment of history. It's not like the plot itself is something open to multitudes of interpretaions. It's almost like turning a suspenseful Hitchcock thriller into a blood splatterfest. No one watches Psycho for gore and no one wants to see A YELLOW SUBMARINE without it's late sixties psychedelia or even an updated version of it. Leave this one alone.
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i can't wait to this i'm a life long beatles fan and have a lot of the yellow submarine merchandise it's all fantastic,ive seen the film a couple of times on the big screen highly under the influence and it is amazing to see a new updated version zemeckis will do a great job no doubt, they must use the original songs mind it will be intersting to see who will voice the beatles and what about the live action piece?yellow submarine was also the first dvd i ever bought.
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WORDS OF FUCKING WISDOM -- LET IT BE.
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Look, I love the Beatles, but NO WAY is YELLOW SUBMARINE even THAT great. C'mon. The animation is inspired, sure, but also piss-poor.
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Why would I kid about my children's names? Would Rain, Summer, River, Holly, Prudence, Chastity, Apple, Pilot, or any of the other names floating around be any better? Perhaps you should tell Harrison Ford his name sucks!
We decided to name our son Harrison right after George passed. People started teasing us that our daughter would be named Starr. I told them no, I didn't want her to grow up to be a stripper. I jokingly said we'd name her McCartney and my wife loved it. She thought it sounded like a little girls name. Now, if you would like to make fun of my kid's names, go ahead. No skin off my nose. -
The songs were not written for that album or the film. Yellow Submarine and Eleanor Rigby were first released on "Revolver", Sgt. Pepper's, When I'm 64, Lucy in the Sky, and With a Little Help from my friends were all from "Sgt. Pepper's". Nowhere Man and Think For Yourself were from "Rubber Soul". The rest were all written previously and never used until the film. Not a single song, outside George Martin's score was written for the film.
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How sad is it when you live the metaphor?
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The band wanted to record an original batch of songs for the film but when the filmakers announced they were going to concentrate on the Sgt Pepper image the band lost interest and let them use a few tunes they had already recorded.
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As for Hey Bulldog, I still more of a kick watching the group playing it in the studio than that section of the film.
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they'll include the original end-of-the-movie cameo "And I've got a hole in me pocket."
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even kind of thrilling for its day, but that day is long gone, lost forever and there is no point or reason for this remake. Worse, there appear to be a whole group of film makers, Cameron and Zemekis and Lucas leap to mind, who were visionary and exciting for their day, but now have turned into technology hacks. Just say no to Yellow Submarine.
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No, really! Kit yourselves out and belt yourselves up for another trip down Uncanny Valley! It's Uncle Rob's favourite place to visit! Hold me back...
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Sep 12, 2009 8:27:07 AM CDT
I hope they use the full version if It's All Too Much
by seppukudkurosawa
One of my favourite Beatles songs. The moments when George Harrison and John Lennon went trippy were always my favourite- and this is possibly their most lysergic song. I wonder, however, how this remake will play in an acid-less world. Oh, you can still buy it if you live in a big city and you've got the right connections, but it's almost unheard of these days.
And I personally think that the original still holds up wonderfully. A more subversive Sunday afternoon picture you'll rarely see. It still captivates the attention of kids reared on Hannah Montana (at least if my nephews and nieces are anything to go by), and gives them a tantalizing glimpse of a world slightly less linear, before everyone started affixing the word "post" in front of everything. -
The read the press release and feel the Suits' excitement about Bob "Z-as-in-Zombie"'s use of great technology to remake this film. Well, the performance capture garbage that Zemeckis is so enamored with takes precedence over A) originality, B)story, and C) taste. I feel sick thinking of how his his lack of taste killed his adaptation of Polar Express. Now he's going to smear his dirty boxers all over the original style of Heinz Edelmann and George Dunning. It was original for its time, it reflected the period, it belongs in a 2D animation world. Tasteless Zombie Bob just got a license to shit all over it.
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When I heard he was gonna do it, I just assumed he'd stick his own visual stuff onto the original.
So does this mean he won't be using the original voices? Or is he just adding his own stuff to that?
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Well, we can only hope they pull it off, I guess. This kind of thing was only a matter of time, you know - bringing back dead celebrities onscreen via CGI. Geez. When I visited Disney World when I was a kid, I was creeped out by the Hall of Presidents. Robot Lincoln was damn scary to me. I still avoid the place today. Country Bears doesn't bother me though; I guess because they aren't supposed to be representational - they're just big furry 3D cartoons. But I digress - it could be, when using 3D on a Yellow Submarine concept like the Sea of Holes, that it could seriously rock. *sigh* We'll see...
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One reason for that is: Pepperland has integrity. It's a real place, like Oz and Wonderland - it has their imaginative heft. And the characters - Jeremy Hilary Boob is my fave - are terrific. Really, the more I think about this, the more I think that maybe, just maybe, it'll be okay...
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Both at the same time!!! Take Yellow Submarine, the all-time hippie feel-good, flowers-and-love nonsense that it was... And not only ass-rape the living-and-dead original artists by remaking it, but ALSO do so in association with Team Rodent in a cynical ploy to wring the last scintillum of cash out of 'the property.' I'm laughing at it so hard because the 'Me Generation' douchebags who came up with this are proving just how little is sacred to them... And the kicker is this: I don't even like the Beatles that much and it offends hell out of me.
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Jesus Christ. Winner of phrase most likely to put me off seeing ANYTHING ever again. Didn't animation used to be a form of art?
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Given that Alan Silvestri has pretty much worked with Robert Zemekis on everything Zemekis has done, I wouldn't be surprised if Silvestri will be the one in charge of rearranging the music, writing whatever score needs to be added, etc, which I suppose is good since Silvestri is probably one of the best composers working today.
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is his weird compulsion, especially since "Forrest Gump" to try to fit everything into the real world. It was OK in "Gump"--it was actually the point of the movie. But when he tried to fit Bill Clinton into "Contact," that was fucking stupid. And making "Cast Away" basically just a long commerical for FedEx was REALLY fucking stupid.
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...just after the death of Heinz Edelmann, who art-directed the original movie, and also the week the re-masted Beatles CD's go on sale. I think this is a little pointless as an exercise. The original movie was of its time, and very set in a Sixties perspective. It makes me wonder whether it is technology driving yet another remake. Eg: "look what we could do with CG... wouldn't Yellow Submarine be awesome now!?" And I'm sure it would look 'awesome', but maybe the energies would be better placed in something original, rather than, yet again, recycling that which the movie makers already admit is wonderful.
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I have GREAT hostility toward this project. Zemeckis should go back to making REAL movies and leave the Deadeye films alone for a few years. Just leave YS be. It's fine. It is what it is and doesn't need 'updating' or 'remaking'.
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Trying to make lifelike Beatles would be creepy since two of them have passed, especially if they can't improve the on the dead-eye problems of past movies.
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no matter how you spin this, it's a terrible idea.
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And the book was still ten times better. No more Zemeckis, thank you.
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Orson Scott Card keeps saying the studio wants 16 year old kids because they don't trust young kid actors, they want established adult leads to dominate the story, etc. The only way to really do Ender's Game is for Zemekis to do his mo-cap CGI. He can get older actors to do the physical acting and voice overs, while animating the kids to appropriate ages. And given the necessity of CGI for the Battle Room, space, Buggers, etc. why not make it 100% CGI and a consistent look. Not to mention the scene where Ender is attacked in a shower would be impossible to film on actual film. If anyone on this site has any contacts, sway or influence, they need to suggest this.This is not hyperbole. Ender's Game is Star Wars meets Harry Potter. It will make Disney a TON of money if done right. Zemekis knows kids fare, mature fare, sci-fi, etc. He is literally the only director in Hollywood I think can pull this off. Who wants a billion dollar franchise in the making?
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You just ignore them. The originals will always be there so you can just stick with them and let these people have their silly little stolen ideas turned into supposed cash. I assume they're going to remake all of my favorite films soon. I won't be watching them.
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http://tinyurl.com/qvp5r5
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roger rabbit 2 where is it?! ,come on yellow submarine?please enough with the beatles they have enough money they just pulled in another 2 billion this tuesday with the rock band release and oh yeah the re-release of all the albums as well.
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You have to understand that Apple Records (which predates Apple Computers) was really pissed when Apple Computers stole their name AND logo. They have a court battle and Apple Computers promised never to go into the music business, except they did. And they still never paid for the logo or name, despite signing a contract that they would. Apple Records and the living Beatles have always been pissed about this, hence no Beatles on iTunes, but they're above a big lawsuit and sabre rattling. But the band's music is about to enter public domain the UK in 2012. Either they remaster their work while they control it, sell it while they can, and have some control over the whole thing, or they don't.The NY Times had a great (lengthy) article on Beatles: Rock Band, and how it is meant more as a very loving tribute than a typical, competitive video game. They aren't just cranking out merchandise for a buck. They are trying to do right here. I for one plan to grab the new remastered CD box set, and the game. http://tiny.cc/oERcl
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"We hate all remakes!"
"Anyone who does a remake should be shot!"
"Fuck remakes in the eye!"
"Batman Begins and Casino Royale were genius, why doesn't everyone do this?"
"Guys, why haven't you rebooted Daredevil yet?"
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Goyer and Nolan are bouncing around story ideas. There is no script yet. No one is cast. There is no title. There is no contract. There is no poster.Christopher Nolan promised he wouldn't touch Batman until he finished The Prestige, which was the truth. The Prestige was brilliant (better than Batman Begins). After The Prestige, he then started on The Dark Knight. Nolan is not touching Batman until after he finished Inception.Are we clear on this?
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"Yo Run, is it Halloween?"
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Need more coffee
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I would just try and do another new toon Beatles movie with whatever the writers and living Beatles want to do. The anime on it is great for the game trailers. Not sure I will ever play the game myself.
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....Yellow Submarine was just a freaky mess. Great music and all, but a not-so-entertaining mess. Don't think I could even sit through it these days. As for a remake,.....pointless. Maybe a 3-D CGI freaky, acid-trip mess? Gimme my Beatles, but leave Yellow Submarine on the shelf where it belongs.
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Sep 12, 2009 10:50:59 AM CDT
Good job spreading around the fake fucking poster.
by cheyne_stoking_dms
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Harry, did you not see Polar Express and Baywolf? Did you not notice how for all the whiz-bang rendering and unbelievable attention to detail, the characters still look like reanimated corpses being hauled against heir will by some unseen puppeteer? Performance capture is dreck, and the world of Yellow Submarine should never be realized in photorealistic rendering like Baywolf or Polar express. Zemeckis should hire some ANIMATORS - artists of movement - instead of relying on a technology that has proven to be faulty time and time again.
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Sep 12, 2009 11:02:43 AM CDT
A scary heart-pounding chase scene in 3D with the Vaccum Cleaner
by brewtix
That'd be awesome.
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...if it weren't for the splendid Rock Band Beatle's opening graphics, I would say, "WHAT? What the hell for? O ther than money grubbing and lack of new creative idea, why this being done?" It should be eye-popping, at least, but they'd better not muck with the very simple storyline. Eh, should be fun but I doubt if they can capture the essence of the original. Different times/sensibilities and all that. In the end, if it create more Beatles fans, that's always a good thing.
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...(see: sarcasm) how some posters proclaim "Nobody watches/listens to (fill in the blank) anymore!" As if they had these god-like powers that allows them to conduct instantaneous polls of every person on the planet.Not to mention the anti-Beatle/anything-to-do-with-the-sixties haters. Oh yes, watch out for those frightful hippies and their message of peace...be afraid, very afraid. Honestly, what IS wrong with the inside of some of you Blue Meanies heads? The Baby Jesus weeps...
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i mean this seems utterly pointless. can't use the real beatles obviously, so its either sound alikes or it'll be new characters. or are they simply doing the same movie but with improved animation so then they'd use the original audio for the 4 of them? i guess the one positive thing is the animation cant look worse than the original.
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yeah...if you were high at the time. and of course if a movies needs you to be high to be appreciated, its obviously terrible. not to mention if you need to be high period, there's some lack of intelligence there but anyway.
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The term you are looking for is "Uncanny Valley" where somelike looks too close to human, but isn't. It is usually because the eye is too static. A huge part of human interaction is in the eye, which rarely is animated well. There are two things to note here:
1 - Beowulf was MUCH better than Polar Express in this regard. I hear Christmas Carol is even better. Technology will continue to improve here.
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Sep 12, 2009 11:45:51 AM CDT
Bouncy, hate to sour your impression of the original
by seppukudkurosawa
But THAT had sound-alikes... Well, in theory. To me they sounded like four random Liverpudlians plucked from the local pub.
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People keep bringing up the Rockband intro as a reason why this abomination could work but they don't seem to realize that the Beatles in the intro are animated old-fashionedly in 2D, just put in a 3D world later in the sequence. It looks charming and funny. What Zemeckis is trying to do is force his audience to look at the reanimated corpses of Lennon and Harrison. I cannot imagine not throwing up at seeing this thing.
I also bet you there will be exciting 3D action scenes with a lot of cool violence and american humor, further removing this from the Beatles and anything that should ever be made. Man, i get really angry about this - FUCK YOU ZEMECKIS!!
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"You must be high to enjoy it." If you don't have enough empathy to understand why someone would like something you didn't like, say so; there's no need to fall back on your beat-up old copy of "Internet Arguing 101."
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Harry loves any old shit. Except, y'know - fruit, vegetables, exercise.
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This strikes me as a totally pointless project, but oh well. Although they're keeping the songs in some shape or form, apparently, I wonder what they'll do about the score. I don't know who could score it with as much zest or authority as George Martin did. And the voice cast ... Paul Angelis IS the Chief Blue Meanie, as far as I'm concerned. And Dick Emery's Jeremy Hilary Boob ... I just don't know how you top that.
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You're quite welcome! Have an awesome day.
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We're losing two of our favourite directors - Cameron and Zemeckis - behind some of our favourite films, to this bullshit sandbox of CGI and gadgetry and bleeding-edge tech, when they should be making REAL movies and showing everyone else how to do it. I'm all for pushing the envelope, but mo-cap will never EVER be as convincing as real flesh-and-blood, exisiting-in-real-space PEOPLE. Read this month's Empire. Even Cameron is erring towards admitting as much (and I'm pretty sure that interview was done before the Avatar trailer was released to a world of still-unfucked eyeballs.)
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That MIKE MYERS will fight like hell to voice one (or all) of Zemeckis' "Beatles" ... that is, if the gig isn't handed to him on a silver platter ... (gotta say it) HELP!
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I see zero reason why Zemeckis would hire him. And reading up on Beatles: Rock Band, the four Beatle's trust members (Ono, Harrison, McCartney, Starr) each had full veto power on the project. There is no chance they'd sign off on crap like that.
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Seriously, remaking Yellow Submarine? Granted I have no emotional attachment to the movie (I like the Beatles as much as the next guy, but I've never seen it), but this is just plain an awful idea. Why does this movie need to be remade, and using Zemeckis's crappy performance capture technique no less? Whatever happened to the Robert Zemeckis who gave us Back to the Future, Forrest Gump, and Castaway?
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Motion Capture looks Terrible. They will motion capture/rotoscope old Beatles performances instead of animating, and it will look terrible. Zem doesn't have a head for animation, and never will, no matter how many botched attempts he makes. He has a terrible track record for animation- how can anyone be excited by this? The original was all about freeing up animation- doing things Disney wouldn't do. So Zem's idea is to ground the whole damn thing even further in reality, by employing motion capture? This is a stupid idea.
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I agree this is a stupid idea, though Zemeckis did make Roger Rabbit, so his animation record isn't THAT bad in my opinion...
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FUCK YOU ZEMECKIS! I hope some kind of catastrophe happens to stop this shit from happening. I don't think 10-20 dead people would be too big a price to pay if it spares the world from a performance capture yellow submarine. Or if it gets made i hope it will at least flop as badly as Across the Univers, Jesus, that one was shit! -
While the original movie is good, its not cinema gold. The fact that anyone could even say "greatest fantasy film of all time" worries me from the get-go. The movie never even had their real voices, (they were VERY bad, IMO) and lacks both focus and depth of the whole Sgt Pepper/Yellow Sub motif. I 100% believe that it could be done better, but NOT by Zemeckis. How bad a director are you, that having Disney attached is the only hopeful thing about it? Anyway, I think whoever said Mike Myers was on to something. He would make a great Ringo! Ringo is the goofy side-kick anyway. As I said, the voices were bad to start with, so I don't see a prob with this. One thing: LEAVE Eleanor Rigby AS IS! That is the only part of the movie that is 100% PERFECT!
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Is there anything else that needs to be said? I think not.
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The animation was handled by the Animation Director, Richard Williams, the incredible mind behind "The Thief and the Cobbler." Zemeckis shot and directed all the limp live action bits. If you look at the live action alone- it's a pretty terrible film. You want to get excited about a Yellow Submarine remake? Why not get a good Animation Director like Williams on board?
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...Beatles overrated. Zemeckis too.Just sayin'.
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Robert Zemeckis can kiss my ass!!! Fuck off, you fucking hack. I never sawe a filmmaker fall so spectacular from talented tofucking irritatign hack as Zemeckis. The dude can go fuck off! A man in his 50s obsessed with CGI toys, over-spending on deranged creepy bad cartoons, forgetting to make movies anymore. What a fucking ass! Fuck him!
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Yellow Submarine is about as God awful as a movie can get.
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Or will they be animatronic?
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He speaks the truth.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Remake 'Hard Days Night' w/ Matt Damon, Dave Grohl, Kenny Aronoff and Scott Weiland. Make sure Cokey directs and you'll be good to go. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Right about the first part, completly wrong about the later.
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This time, it will be a CGI cartoon. Directed by Robert "I used to have talent back when i kissed Spielberg's ass" Zemeckis.
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Outside of possibly All Together Now, none of those songs were written for the Yellow Submarine film or album. Yellow Submarine was of course off of Revolver, All You Need Is Love was a single written for the BBC show and the remaining songs were B-Side material that had been sitting around since 1967. Then only thing original was the George Martin score that later John Lennon blasted. And I don't care how big of a Beatles geek someone claims to be, but a real Beatles geek would know there was no reason to mess around, adapt, reimagine, or whatever adjective you want to use - anything from the Beatles mythology.
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The movie-ehhhhhh not so much, dated psychadelic sillyness, not for me at any rate. I can remember watching some of it as a kid and thinking-what the?! Love the Beatles but that's about as big a Nadir for'em as the Magical Mystery Tour mess they did(TV special, not the music). They're better served elsewheres.
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well who knew...i didnt. surprised they woulda done that since the movie came out during their heydays. but i guess they were busy making millions and singing.
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Your mom's cunt is overrated. Just sayin'.
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This will tanks, just like Zemeckis' mo-capped A Christmas Carol will tank, just like Beowulf and Polar Express tanked.
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But, that being said, Where the hell is my 2112 movie already!!!
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the guy directs 'Back to the Future 1-3', 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit', and Best Picture of 1994's 'Forrest Gump.' And yet some of you still have the nerve to bitch. Hey, here's an idea. Instead of bitching about someone accomplished. You could praise them instead?
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The guy lately directed Contact, What Lies Beneath, Cast Away and Polar Express - all as good as unwatchable. Praising a guy who thinks to remake Yellow Submarine starring the living dead - not praiseworthy in my opinion. Even though i love Back To The Future to death - FUCK YOU ZEMECKIS!
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has been popping out SHIT lately if you didn't notice. There's going to come a time where everything will be a remake, reboot, sequel, or a prequel. Forget about the rest of them. You've got to cherish the classics. Dissing on an accomplished filmmaker? Please. Imagine a world without them. We'd have 'Sorority Row' and some Movie movies to look forward to.
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Has yet to recover
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So they should be praised for popping out shit? I don't get what you are trying to say...
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and Zemeckis has certainly made some classics.
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I like The Beatles. I like YELLOW SUBMARINE. I often like Zemeckis. Because I like these things, I don't see how getting more of them will be a bad thing. If it goes well, yay. If it doesn't, Zemeckis is the only one who stands to lose. We'll still have the original movie and the music.
Meanwhile, Zemeckis' I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND was a pretty entertaining movie. It even has Eddie Deezen in it. Anybody catch that flick? -
It's not bitching it's telling as it is. Zemeckis siomply lost it, and nowdays is as good a misguided hack as the worst today. He lost it big time. And to still geeking out on him just because of his past glories, that's silly. most of you geekoids would had no problem blasting john Carpenter and his latest movies, but with Lord Zemeckis, oh no, you have to still praise him just because in the 80s he made one at thwe fime fun little time tavel movies which today is by all rights an over-rated piece of fluff underserving of it's classic status. And this days, Zemeckis makes bad movies. Misguided dumb bad movies.I used to like the guy, back in the day when his fluff stuff still made some sense. today he's a misguided fool. Fuck him. I'd rather watch a John Carpenter movie, if we are going for directors who lost their mojo. At least that guy was intelligent with his knock out movies.
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Yellow Submarine is one of the most inventive animated films made- and to have a boring jerk like Zemeckis remake it in motion capture is a slap in the face to the countless talented animators out there who could all do something more interesting- whether it be a remake- or an original work. Harry, For Shame.
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It's just a bad music video.
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What few people comment on is that all this crap about MoCap is just his excuse to be a goddamn perfectionist. Yeah, i know Jackson is doing Tintin, but frankly there's no way you could do Tintin live action. There was no reason why Beowulf had to be MoCap, and there is sure as hell no reason why Christmas Carol has to be MoCap other than to stroke Jim Carrey's ego by having him do every part. Yellow Submarine was a fun, silly little movie with some nice Gilliamesque animation. It was part of its time. There is no reason to remake it.
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"Best Picture of 1994's 'Forrest Gump?" Seriously, just... I can't even say it.
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Sep 12, 2009 5:20:16 PM CDT
Answer: "Why not just make a new one with different songs?"
by tensticks
They did, twice. In 1978 as Sgt Peppers' Lonely Hearts Club Band, and in 2007 as Across The Universe. They weren't animated, but nothing's perfect.
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You're suppose to watch the film and understand it at a visceral level. It's a fucking Beatles related project. If nothing happens in you then nothing happens. Listen to some Lil' Wayne instead.
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this in 3D with the awesome soundtrack will fuck my eyeballs and my eardrums!...at the same time.
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I've found that watching these types of movies while stoned isn't really all all that. Watching straightforward flicks is a better treat.
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'The Big Kahuna.'
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the MST3K movie. I take back what I said. mst3k is best to watch when ur blazed.
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I think I almost pissed my pants laughing. Same with "The Room". I still haven't experienced a psychedelic movie high, so I want this one to be the first.
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me and my friends were all stoned watching that shit laughing. Good times.
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at goofy clown face."
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the people they are motion capturing. Fascinating! Fuck Zemekis in his CGI ass.
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Sure, remaster the Beatles, great REAL music, above talented. But remake a movie that is best seen fucked out of your skull on acid; Why? Fucks sake...are there NO original idea left in Hollywood? Will the typical person under the age of 45 even fucking know what the Yellow Submarine is? And how will you make this sell in an age where psychedelia, is known as something your grandparents were into, if you even have a clue as to what the fuck it is in the first place?
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Roger Fucking Rabbit a bit more. THAT is a world that was barely touched upon. At least RR is new enough at ONLY 21yrs that someone not living at Forrest Lawn might still remember it.
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nobody actually "lives" at Forrest Lawn. get it?
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Sep 12, 2009 8:06:27 PM CDT
Yeah - if you want it to look like real people - shoot actual pe
by juansanchez
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God people are dumb.
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you stole my ghost Harrison Ford idea. I wrote it into my 'What Lies deeper beneath' fanscript. Printed it out and wiped my ass with it. You stole it?! I hope your hands smell permanently of shit.
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Or lack of same! http://tinyurl.com/oboueg
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It's 2009, no one cares about the Beatles enough to go see a remake of, of all things, Yellow Submarine. Yeah they're getting hyped right now but there's a big difference between playing an accomplished video game and going to see an appalling, embarrassing film (see above post-split Beatles films for proof). And shot in motion-capture no less.Also (whisper it) they were overrated. No one's arguing it was innovative at the time but their song catalogue mostly consists of a bunch of glorified nursery rhymes. Bands like the Stones, the Velvets and JHE have aged far better, and have influenced just as big a swathe of rock n'roll, arguably in far more interesting ways.
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When you compare the legacy of those bands this is what you get:Velvets - punk, indie rock and the concept of using high art concepts in pop songs.Hendrix - Metal in all its forms.Stones - arguably the first to use image as an integral part of rock n'roll. Sure, bands and singers had images before, not least Elvis, but they were still just singers - the Stones were the first to incorporate the mythological gang aspect to rock n'roll, in turn influencing everyone afterward from the Clash to Parliament to Devo to Public Enemy.And what's the legacy of the Beatles? Boy bands, concept albums and the worst recesses of britpop.
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Motion capture just makes everything look like a creepy living wax museum. And I'm sure the second wave of Beatlemania brought on by the very good Rock Band game will have passed by the time this movie comes out and it will be judged on its own merits and shrugged at like all other remakes where an artist gets crushed under their own good intentions to honour something they adore.
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Remake, adaption...what it will boil down to is a version of yellow Sub with Zemeckis touch.Will it have the Beatles music? Yes.Will it have the same characters? Probably yes.Will it have Blue Meanies and Glove? Yes.All brought to you in lovely Mo Cap CGI 3D splendor. Extra Suck.
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As brilliant as The Beatles were at making pop music...the Stones were even better at making kick your fucking ass Rock. You wanna hear genius...listen to "Gimme Shelter" and tell me that isn't the greatest rock song ever. Dark, brooding, violent...a picture of the time it was created; while The Beatles were busy dropping acid, visiting Indian Gurus to find inner enlightenment and telling the world "All you need is love" with sickening do gooder self righteousness; the Stones were shooting heroin, fucking groupies by the hundreds, and living like it was their last day while telling you straight up the world is a vile nasty place and you are all but fucked. Nobody painted the reality of a times like the Stones did in the late 60's.
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They should just follow the lead of the Rock Band animation for the Beatles. That was frakkin' awesome.
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A sequel where the Beales returned to Pepperland would be fine. A remake of the original is unnecessary.
I am already shuddering at the thought of mocap Beatles that arent stylized like the original cartoon version but are tryingto be photo real..... words cannot describe the hatred I have for Polar Express/ Beowulf et al. It is an horrific visual stylization for films. Simply awful. -
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Sep 13, 2009 4:21:22 AM CDT
"and the songs were written for an album of the same name."
by prof_zoom
WTF?!? Harry? Do you ever bother to research the stuff you write about?! Instead of buying original prints and cels, try reading a fucking book about the subject or something... Geezuz.
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Acting outraged and all that. "I can't believe they're remaking this!" But I, for one, can't fucking wait to see this.
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Zemeckis had his time. There was upona time he was good and delivered the type of movies that really befit his talent, harmless pulp with inventive camera work.But things have gone to shit with Zemeckis the day the believed he had a big brain and he decided to show off how an inteelctual he is. And those show off mvoies have been nothing but complete embaracement. This atept at show of inteligence and intellectualism with Contact, Forest Gump and Beowulf are nothing but the most enlighting examples of when a director over-reaches beyond his capacities. They are dumb movies pretending to be smart. They are the daddies of Watchmen, another movie of that ilk, a dumb movie pretending to be smart.The irony about Zemeckis is that when he decides to not show off in big brain is when his movies get actually smarter and better. Cast Away is a much smater movie then Beowulf, Forest Gump and contact combined and multiplied by 10 times over. But Zemeckis doesn't get it! The man must be on one of the strangest, most ridiculous ego trips i ever seen an Hollywood director in. And as iof his pseudo-smart dumb movies weren't dammage enough, now he is suffering a middle ages crisis worthy of Tony Scott and decides to go modern with his unwelthy and demented obsession with CGI MoCap.The man lost it. The man is insane. and nobody around him have any guts to call on it, to tell him he's mental. And he will not get to know the true soon enough if there's enough geeks of proeminence like the AICN top men who still kiss his ass because 25 years ago he made a time travel action-comedy that apeased them in their adolescence and still have it in a pedestal. Dudes, the Zemeckis of the 80s no longer exists, that guy was replaced by this CGI obsessed homunculus who is determined to destroy cinema by all means necessary, as in, bad creepy CGI.No, really, fuck Robert Zemeckis. Fuck him. The sooner he stops making movies, the better. This guy is a desease to modern cinema.
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Thanks for showing how out of touch you are. Let's see who the Beatles influenced: Radiohead, Nirvana, Oasis, The Verve, The Police, Velvet Underground, U2, REM, and many, MANY more. Helter Skelter was arguably the first Heavy Metal tune. The Beatles could rock out with the best of them. Did the Stones write the Beatles first #1 hit? No. Did Lennon and McCartney write the Stones' first #1 hit? Yes, as a matter of fact, they did. The problem with most Beatles naysayers is that they have never really listened to the Beatles complete work.
Yes, the stones have released twice the number of studio albums as the Beatles. That's not counting the Stones' compilations and live albums. And yet, the Beatles have still outsold them. Do you think the Stones will be in the top 5 selling artists of the first decade of the new millennium? Nope. Yet the Beatles will probably be at #1 when that decade ends on Dec. 31 of this year.
There were other composers in existence at the same time as Mozart. Many wrote more pieces that Wolfgang. What are their names? I rest my case. -
I notice you haven't responded to all of us who called you out for your wrongheaded information concerning the songs supposedly written for Yellow Submarine.
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Some thoughts from the dojo on this story...
1/ The last Beatles 'adaptation' ACROSS THE UNIVERSE recieved some exuberantly positive reviews and some woefully negative ones. This intrigued me and so as a Beatles fan I rented it. Fuck. Sadly the critics who said it stank were SO right with that one.
2/ Zemeckis wants to make another animated movie? Well, somewhere on his hard drive he has the naked Angelina Jolie character model from BEOWULF... dude if you want to push the boundaries then stick some proper nipples on her and make a XXX hardcore fantasy porn. Jolie's probably always secretly wanted to do a porno so im sure she wouldn't mind.
3/ If you're going ahead with YELLOW SUBMARINE then don't stay too faithful to the original. New songs, new plot, change the whole thing about. But keep the big blue glove monster, that was cool. -
Some retards didn't go watch the movie because the main characters are hippies. Fucking asses! Their fucking loss, the movie is really very good, terribly underrated.
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wants to make a Beatles movie. Am i alone in seeing the hillarious irony of all that? Next, Osama Bin Laden makes a movie singing the praises of America, GM and Coca-Cola. Fucking shit, Zemeckis is completly deranged! It's official now.
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Asimov, well yet another movie we disagree on i'm afraid.
I watched ACROSS THE UNIVERSE on Blu Ray and as a fan of musicals and of The Beatles I was hoping to be entertained. But... I really didnt enjoy it on any level. Some imaginative cinematography perhaps is the one positive I can say about it and it was nice to see Salma in a nurses uniform, albeit briefly.
btw I personally have no problem at all with hippies in musicals - HAIR and in particular Norman Jewison's JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR are incredible movies imho.
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The Beatles painted pictures with music, built worlds out of sound. No group has come close to their range and diversity. They were unique. You wanna compare the Beats with the Stones? The Stones were earthy while the Beatles soared. The Stones celebrated stupidity with drugs and debauchery while the Beatles spoke to higher longings. The Beatles were better. That is all.
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The Beatles painted pictures that never were and never will be, fantasy, fluff, a vision of Utopia that asked you to ignore the reality of this life.The Stones took a snap shot of the real world outside your door and dared you to come to terms with it. If the Beatles were day dreaming "artists", the Stones were war time photographers.
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Yellow Submarine is a cultural document. There is no need to remake it. Remaking it deminishes the importance of the original.
And I say that as a person who doesn't hate remakes, when they're appropriate.
There are SO many movies from the past that had a good premise but a so-so execution that Zemeckis could take a swing at. His method of motion-capture-filmmaking could be used to bring new life to any number of bad sci-fi movies from the 50s and 60s.
When I think of a recent remake that was done appropriately (even if it wasn't that great a movie, it was still an appropriate remake), it's I Am Legend. The source material is interesting, but was never executed really well. So nobody's childhood gets raped when someone tries yet again to do it well.
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Sep 13, 2009 3:24:09 PM CDT
Mo-Cap? Fucking GAG! Yellow Submarine meets Polar Express
by kentucky colonel
That is not the news I wanted to hear. If someone can make a movie that looks like the RockBand trailer, then I am there. But Zemmie & Mo-Cap? sounds like a polar train wreck!!
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Royston, you're right a sequel would make more sense. Do you know what else would make more sense?
Releasing this movie in September 2009.
The whole hype around the 'Remastered' back catalogue and The Beatles: Rock Band video game is quite unprecedented for such an old group. We have Music. We have video games. All we need is a movie for the holy trinity. A release date now would be a gift from god.
But... Zemeckis isn't releasing YELLOW SUBMARINE now. He'll be releasing it in two or three years. Good luck with that. But in that time frame the Submarine might well sink rather than soar. -
jesus christ. im over the beatles. it has nothing to do with the quality of the music It has more to do with the fact that I feel like I HAVE TO LOVE THE BEATLES when I listen to their stuff. The promo circus surrounding their music just makes me feel really weird in a physical way. I can't explain it, their music makes me feel bad.
Listening to their music makes me feel... like I am taking a helicopter vacation to Europe where I only get dropped off to see the biggest tourist spots, and I am not allowed to see anything else. Its like Big Ben, Mona Lisa, Eiffel Tower, Amsterdam Canals, The Kremlin. Yeah, they are great places but they have been captured in snapshots by tourists so many times that they aren't even real anymore.
There is something about their place in music that makes me have no desire to listen to their albums. I will listen to a few singles on the radio, but that is about it.
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Why is it that they are ALWAYS a “big fans” or “geeks” for something, then more often than not the remake turns out shitty ass hell and pisses people off something fierce. This is gonna suck just like pretty much every remake has. The songs were not made for the movie! All of them came from different albums that came out Before YELLOW SUBMARINE. All Beatles fans know that, but I guess Harry wasn’t updated on that memo. Hell, this thing is already headed on the wrong direction with mo-cap and CGI! This type of movie cannot work with anything other than traditional animation. It’s not going to work. Zemeckis hasn’t done anything that gives me hope that this project will work. BEOWULF and THE POLAR EXPRESS were mediocre for me, they were just there and not much fun. Zemeckis is going down the path as Lucas and Spielberg. I think this is a wasted of time and money, all of which could be used to further the adventures of the Beatles in Pepperland not a rehash of the classic cartoon that will surely lose a lot of what made the OG. was. . . fun. So for Jeebus sake DON’T REHASH THIS MOVIE!!!
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Sep 13, 2009 6:02:27 PM CDT
I think the public [America] get the Stones and the Beatles
by seppukudkurosawa
ass backwards. While they think of the Stones as being the working class rebels and the Beatles as goodie-goodie art hipsters, the reality was the exact opposite. The Beatles all grew up in shitty Liverpudlian terraces, and harboured speed, weed and heroin addictions, while the Stones came of solid middle-class stock. And if you don't think the Stones had their pseudy sides, you've never seen them prattle off strings of bullshit in the Godard movie Sympathy for the Devil or the Maysles brothers Gimme Shelter.
Frankly, I think these whole one VS the other conversations make the music industry seem far smaller than it really is and do no one any favours. That being said: The Velvet Underground<Stones. -
Name another band who were so good, that even the bands they influence end up awesome.
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unfortunately thats not true, the velvets are sweet, but have influenced many a shitty band.
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LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – Robert Zemeckis is in negotiations to direct a remake of the 1968 animated Beatles feature "Yellow Submarine" for the Walt Disney Studios.
Disney had no comment on the deal. Still being sorted out is the acquisition of rights to the film's music, which includes the title track as well as "Eleanor Rigby," "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds," "When I'm Sixty-Four" and "With a Little Help From My Friends."
Like all Zemeckis' animated productions -- among them "The Polar Express" and "Beowulf" -- "Submarine" would be done in performance capture and would be a digital 3D endeavor.
The original movie, produced by United Artists and King Features Syndicate, was a hit. Its story involves a soldier called Old Fred who meets up with the Beatles and travels in a yellow submersible to Pepperland. Among the creatures the group encounters are the music-hating Blue Meanies.
I am SO against this. I liked the realism of the buildings and environments in Zemeckis' 2 CGI films, Polar Express and Beowolf but both lacked real facial expressions. The original perfectly captured the time and place it was created it, hand drawings and trippy colors just "feel" like the 60s. Sure they could do it more advanced, more elaborate but it just wouldn't have the cartoonish- graphitti feel the original had. Polar Express and Beowulf's characters felt like wax statues with cold dead eyes, and motion captured movement feels too real, and lacks the magic that 2D animators have spent a century developing.
I've seen The Beatles ROCKBAND game and its pretty good... but even it doesn't capture the life and facial expressions that 2D does. And while CG is great in capturing semi realistic sci fi and action, it simply isnt any...... fun. IF They could somehow use CG to create cartoon characters that look like the characters from SHREK or TOY STORY... maybe....
I wouldn't mind a SEQUEL, if it captures that same hand drawn Heinz Edelman feel. Most of it still holds up (the Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds scene was and is an ugly dreadful rotoscoped nightmare, BUT Nowhere Man is STILL A beautiful masterpiece- that spinning album turning into that tunnel of colors is forever a delight to the eye.) Maybe have the gang get in the sub again for a NEW adventure- and interpret different songs than that were in the original. -
... it could be Tim Fucking Burton making it, with Johnny Depp as John, Helena Bonham-Carter as Paul, Ben Affleck as George and Jack Black as Ringo. And music not by the Beatles, but Danny Elfman.
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I used to feel the same way until these remastered CDs came out. I heard a few of them, and they changed my mind. I've heard the old versions a hundred times, but now I hear instruments and lyrics I never even knew about. I can actually hear Paul playing bass, and Ringo has some subtlety to his drumming now. There's too many differences to mention, really. The mud is gone; they're like whole new albums.
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I am SO against this. I liked the realism of the buildings and environments in Zemeckis' 2 CGI films, Polar Express and Beowolf but both lacked real facial expressions. The original perfectly captured the time and place it was created it, hand drawings and trippy colors just "feel" like the 60s. Sure they could do it more advanced, more elaborate but it just wouldn't have the cartoonish- graphitti feel the original had. Polar Express and Beowulf's characters felt like wax statues with cold dead eyes, and motion captured movement feels too real, and lacks the magic that 2D animators have spent a century developing. I've seen The Beatles ROCKBAND game and its pretty good... but even it doesn't capture the life and facial expressions that 2D does. And while CG is great in capturing semi realistic sci fi and action, it simply isnt any...... fun. IF They could somehow use CG to create cartoon characters that look like the characters from SHREK or TOY STORY... maybe.... I wouldn't mind a SEQUEL, if it captures that same hand drawn Heinz Edelman feel. Most of it still holds up (the Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds scene was and is an ugly dreadful rotoscoped nightmare, BUT Nowhere Man is STILL A beautiful masterpiece- that spinning album turning into that tunnel of colors is forever a delight to the eye.) Maybe have the gang get in the sub again for a NEW adventure- and interpret different songs than that were in the original.
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I am SO against this. I liked the realism of the buildings and environments in Zemeckis' 2 CGI films, Polar Express and Beowolf but both lacked real facial expressions. The original perfectly captured the time and place it was created it, hand drawings and trippy colors just "feel" like the 60s. Sure they could do it more advanced, more elaborate but it just wouldn't have the cartoonish- graphitti feel the original had. Polar Express and Beowulf's characters felt like wax statues with cold dead eyes, and motion captured movement feels too real, and lacks the magic that 2D animators have spent a century developing. I've seen The Beatles ROCKBAND game and its pretty good... but even it doesn't capture the life and facial expressions that 2D does. And while CG is great in capturing semi realistic sci fi and action, it simply isnt any...... fun. IF They could somehow use CG to create cartoon characters that look like the characters from SHREK or TOY STORY... maybe.... I wouldn't mind a SEQUEL, if it captures that same hand drawn Heinz Edelman feel. Most of it still holds up (the Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds scene was and is an ugly dreadful rotoscoped nightmare, BUT Nowhere Man is STILL A beautiful masterpiece- that spinning album turning into that tunnel of colors is forever a delight to the eye.) Maybe have the gang get in the sub again for a NEW adventure- and interpret different songs than that were in the original.
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Is the dumbest arguments ever. EVER! To have the Stones fight the Beatles is like having Superman fight Captain Marvel. Sure, it sounds good on paper and might be good in a comic book, but then you realize that if such a thing happened in the real world the ENTIRE WORLD WOULD BE DESTROYED in such a confrontation. Superman can drop kick a mountain; Captain Marvel can lift an island. Now times that by 1000 and you have the potential devastation from a battle between the Ying and Yang of the British Invasion.
Beatles owned the late sixties - no one came close (except for the Beach Boys with Pet Sounds) but the Beatles couldn't handle the pressure and the fame and being the Beatles (plus Yoko probably didn't help either), so they broke up.
In comes the Stones who finally realized they didn't have to be the Beatles (I think Their Satanic Majesties Request taught them that the Beatles psychedelic sound and melodies was harder than they thought). So they went back to the blues and Rock & Roll and, most importantly, just plain ROCK (they also threw in some Soul and Country while they were at it) and but out a string of albums that might be rarely equaled but never beaten.
Beatles vs. Stones. Fuck that. It is like the USSR vs USA in the 1980s - a nuclear war that would destroy us all. And I for one want to live and listen to REVOLVER and SOME GIRLS for a couple of years instead of going up in a rock n' roll mushroom cloud.
BTW - Greatest band ever, Iggy Pop and the Stooges. Why you ask? Why the hell not. -
would love to go out in a rock & roll Mushroom Cloud, with the Allman Bros. on my Walkman (remember those?)
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I have faith in Zemeckis but hey in the very least they will finally release the original on Blu-Ray!
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It's not a bad idea, the music should automatically propel this thing. Beatls music is their safety net. BUT, c'mon Bobby Z! What's the beef with live action? Can he physically make a live action movie anymore?
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Do a sequel to I Wanna Hold Your Hand, Zemeckis' first movie - you know, back when he wasn't obsessed with MoCap and actually directed real people? All the priniples are still around except for Wendie Jo Sperber (RIP), and who couldn't see a little more Eddie Deezen?
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