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Disney & Guillermo Double Dares You to Bring Your Kids To Something... Spookier than usual!
Hey folks, Harry here... I had a conversation with Guillermo back a couple years about how he hoped that this would be a deal that would actually one day happen. Disney has been flirting with Guillermo for years. With good cause. Most of you know the Guillermo of the smaller, more artsy tender horror-fantasies. Still others know Guillermo from his big HELLBOY films and BLADE II. But there's another side of Guillermo Del Toro. One that is deeply passionate about Walt Disney Company. Specifically their animated fare, but also their films like 20,000 LEAGUES and TREASURE ISLAND. Those Disney films were wonderfully influential in a way none of us have seen from Guillermo yet... save for perhaps that image of the Elemental dying in HELLBOY II. We're about to see something amazing there. Here's the press release....
DISNEY TEAMS UP WITH ACCLAIMED FILMMAKER GUILLERMO DEL TORO TO CREATE ANIMATED FEATURES WITH CHILLS AND THRILLS UNDER THE NEW LABEL “DISNEY DOUBLE DARE YOU”
Anaheim, California -- September 11, 2009 -- The Walt Disney Studios, in collaboration with acclaimed filmmaker Guillermo del Toro (“Pan’s Labyrinth,” “The Hobbit”), is launching a new production label called Disney Double Dare You, to create new animated films full of chills and thrills for audiences of all ages, it was announced today at the D23 Expo by Dick Cook, chairman of The Walt Disney Studios. All films will be produced under the guidance of del Toro, who originated the concept and the design of DDY and who will also direct certain projects. The first project in development for the new label is called “Trollhunters,” an original del Toro story which he will produce.
Commenting on the announcement, Cook said, “Guillermo is a brilliant and visionary filmmaker, and we’re excited to be launching this new label with him. His knowledge and appreciation for Disney films, along with his penchant for creating worlds of fantasy, presented a great opportunity for us to explore a whole new genre of filmmaking for moviegoers of all ages. We have admired Guillermo’s imaginative approach to filmmaking for some time, and now we’re proud to be working with him to create films full of imaginative delights and lots of thrills at the same time.”
Del Toro added, “As a director, I love to take audiences into fantastic new worlds and provide them with some anxious moments in the process. It is part of the Disney canon to create thrilling, unforgettable moments and villains in all their classic films. It is my privilege for DDY to continue in this tradition. To partner up with The Walt Disney Studios, with the support of Dick Cook and John Lasseter, is to belong to a storytelling partnership that I admire deeply. It is a true honor. I look forward to coming up with fresh and original stories that will take Disney films in a whole new direction. The emphasis is on fun, and we have some great ideas already on the storyboards.”
Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth received six Academy Award® nominations in 2007, including one for his original screenplay, and went on to win three awards. That film also received a BAFTA Award for Best Film not in the English language. His other directing credits include “Hellboy,” “Hellboy II: The Golden Army,” “The Devil’s Backbone,” “Cronos,” and “Mimic,” among others. Del Toro is currently directing back-to-back feature film adaptations of the Tolkien classic, “The Hobbit,” for release in 2011 and 2012.
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somehow great?
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Mickey Mouse to play Bilbo in the new Hobbit movie. Goofy to play Gollum...
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Sep 12, 2009 4:27:11 AM CDT
YEAH, LIKE DISNEY WILL LET ANYONE MAKE ANIMATED HORROR MOVIES...
by carlthormark1978
This is their way of suckering Del Toro into a development deal because he's about to do The Hobbit and if that movie is a huge hit then they hope to get him on his follow up picture. It would be fucking awesome if a major studio actually made some animated Horror flicks but it's not fucking likely.
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However, the idea does sound pretty cool.
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Alan Moore's run, the part in Gotham.
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...even more distractions from his promised Lovecraft adaption. Oh well. I really like Del Toro but if he's not gonna ever make "At The Mountains of Madness" himself he needs to at least produce it and let somebody else have a shot or relinquish the rights if he's tying them up.
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Sep 12, 2009 4:48:30 AM CDT
So you mean disney will make films like "Return to Oz"...
by derlanghaarige
...or "Something wicked this will Comes" again? That would be cool! especially with del Toro!
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Of course it's WAY
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.. is one of my faves. Great movie! Always been a fan of the spooky carnival story.
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Double Dare. Something wicked this way Comes scared the crap out of me when i was a kid. Disney can't leave anything alone these days
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The one where Swamp Thing takes over Gotham. Man that shit was awesome.
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Wasting his time making one crappy kids movie after another. After the Hobbit I want Hellboy 3.
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Right, LOTV8I, how could I forget about that? But I want Hellboy 3 none the less.
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He really, really, really needs to work with a writer. Hellboy II was exactly the same story as Blade II with a script that worked half as well as Blade II's. I like what he has going on visually. His screenplays are messes that indulge in unforgivable cliches and contain loads of characters who exist for no reasons other than to deliver exposition, make plot happen, or look cool. Look at the part in Hellboy when Johann tells the audience they'll have to wait for movie 3 before he'll explain why he's motivated to do anything he does. Nobody gets a pass for writing that lazy.
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Hey, Disney! remember when parents picketed because RETURN TO OZ was good? Remember when awesome shorts like FRANKENWEENIE resulted in boycotts and screaming tots? Remember the bath you too kon THE BLACK CAULDRON and THE BLACK HOLE? You're heading down that road again, idiots.
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Del toro is an amazing director, but Lord Of The Rings had an earthly quality to it, felt very real. Del Toro's movies always feel ethereal, not sure the films will bridge well stylistically. Just a thought.
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The kids they're aiming at are growing up on Harry Potter and trashy vampire sex fiction. They just watched a PG-13 Batman movie about psychotics and gangsters mutilating each other.
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always reminded me more of Princess Mononoke and the spirit of the forest...but I cant fault anything del Toro does. I just finished an MA dissertation on him, and usually that level of work on anyone or thing would lead me to hate them due to over exposure, but I still love the guy. and FLYNN_LIVES, while Ill admit the Hellboy films are somewhat hokey at times (particularly storywise) the writing on Cronos, Devils Backbone and Pan's is pretty faultless...
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.. everything I've read makes it sound like Jackson and co. and keeping very tight reigns on this. The same effects people as LOTR, same writers, presumably many of the same actors. Really, it almost sounds to me like Del Toro will be kind of like a glorified 2nd unit director... of course that's just a lot of assumption on my part.
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.. as I've said before, I really like Del Toro but his forte really is his original material. Devil's Backbone is my favorite of his and every time I watch it seems like I find some new allegory or parallel. But I still wanna see him do Lovecraft dammit!
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We don't all sit on the net 24/7 searching movie sites for news which we can then lord over others for knowing first. AICN is a one stop place for most, so can it you goof!
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but it's a great idea and can't wait to see what he comes up with.
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... Similar in tone to 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Treasure Island, live-action films that felt real and fantastical and still dangerous to a child. They were never childish, never talked down to kids, like current Disney family films do. But do you REALLY need a whole new label to do something like this? And even within the animation department? Is it necessary? And isn't Guillermo busy enough??? And was Hint of Smegma banned?
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far too much on your part. glorified 2nd unit director del is not.
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Or did stupid parents really boycott Return to Oz?
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Sep 12, 2009 6:42:43 AM CDT
I think the Del Toro Hobbit flick will be akin to the films of..
by d.vader
... the 80's that were produced by Spielberg but still had Spielberg's prints all over it, to the point where, being a kid watching those movies, you could have sworn Spielberg directed them himself. I mean The Goonies, Gremlins, Back to the Future, etc- those all feel like Spielberg movies. I'm sure The Hobbit will be the same way, directed by Del Toro but feeling like Jackson.
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Sep 12, 2009 7:50:57 AM CDT
Um, there's an animated horror flick in theaters right now
by nasty in the pasty
9 is scary as hell.
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and Labyrinth proved how great he could be, but right now he is way overextended. He's not superhuman but if you look at his entry in IMDB.com, you would swear he thinks he is. I'm worried he's going to be doing a lot of Hellboy IIs, which means movies where you can spot the movie -- look, there's Men in Black, there's Princess Mononoke, there's that scene from Star Wars. They won't be that original and a lot of these projects are going to crash and burn as a result. Less is more in other words.
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Tho he really should get round to finishing the books...
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i think the only thing i ever liked of his was "mimic". everything else - and i mean everything else - i have ever seen of his has been garbage. whether it's spanish language crap like "backbone" or "labyrinth" or big hollywood crap like "hellboy" or "blade 2" (perhaps the worst sequel to a good movie ever made), this guy has ZERO talent. it's one thing for harry to keep tea-bagging him but that doesn't change anything. he's still awful. i'm still surprised that i liked "mimic". i remember thinking at the time that this guy has real potential. boy, was i wrong. and, yeah, as some posters above have expressed, you are right to be worried about "the hobbit", people. in this moron's hands, i don't see how that's not going to suck.
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Yeh, very very good call.
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I personally think it is a good direction for disney, but as a few have said before, I think it will become problematic. The douchebag parents who want their children growing up without "negative" influences, but let their kids watch gay shit like high school musical (even though it is well known nude pictures of a star actress showed up online), will more than likely boycott this film. What I would love is for these animated pieces to be somewhere between say Goosebumps and Tales from the Crypt. Not essentially gorey, but still fucking scary. One creepy TFTC episode I vaguely remember was about a ventriloquist who actually didnt carry his voice, but instead he had this little creature on the end of his arm. I keep thinking the guy ended up as the dummy in the end. Needless to say, Disney may just be doing more harm to themselves, but in the end Im all for it.
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Can't wait!
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from net nerds. get fucked. hellboy movies suck ass. blade 2 was shit. your little hobit movie will be a midget walking up a hill. get fucked.
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Sep 12, 2009 10:04:06 AM CDT
The Hellboy movies did suck. Blade 2 was awesome. Pans Lab was g
by jkrow21
The Orphanage was great. And the Hobbit book was one of the most boring things I never finished reading.
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The movie isn't even shooting yet. Weak PR writing...
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Has anyone stopped to think about the major league talent that Disney has been gathering? Spielberg, Lasseter, Del Torro, Zemeckis, the guys at Marvel. It's been done over time but, hell, this is impressive.
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It sure isn't the 80s, but it needs to be. Back when there was fun and magic in these types of things. I haven't heard of anything this interesting and exciting from Disney in a long time. We need to have the creativity and imagination of that decade back, because it's sorely lacking in most everything.
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it's depressing.
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By something less than totally original! If I can spot a single influence within a film it sucks ass! And my nerdlinger opinion carries far more weight than critical acclaim or box office success! My life is an empty, meaningless void I long to fill with cock, but instead fill with anonymous hate-posts where I claim to know better than every film maker alive!
Seriously though, fuck you dead inside haters. Listening to you guys tear down every genre director alive for failing to live up to your completely unrealistic expectations of novelty and creativity (like any of you could make anything as creative as the worst 5 minutes of even Mimic) makes me wonder why you guys even bother to watch movies? I mean why call yourselves film geeks when you obviously hate movie? -
Now if this actually works out, this is something to really get excited about. I don't always like Del Toro's movies - one or two just never gelled for me - but he's got an amazing style, huge imagination and the ones I do like, I LOVE. Having him out there working to fuck up the minds of young children whilst giving us a thrill too is never going to be a bad thing, and let's face it - kids these days don't get kids horror flicks like Monster Squad, Gremlins, Critters etc. They NEED this to ween them away from being sucked in by the mountains of banal Twilight shit aimed at them.
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hes getting a lot of uncalled for incredibly spiteful hate from AICNers...a sure sign that you're just too damn popular nowadays no matter how good you are
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"Felt" like they were directed by Spielberg? Are you high? Not one of those felt like a Spielberg movie to me at the time. And much though I love the film, Goonies is the only one you could say was 'similar' to a genuine Spielberg directed film due to the subject matter, but even then, it never felt like he directed it. Spielberg's producer-credit films felt very, very different to his directed films to me. That said, I wish he still had the style he had in the 80's. He still makes great movies, with the obvious exception of the skullfuckingly awful Indy 4, but fuck me, that magic he had is gone.
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That's the only thing I can see differentiating The Hobbit stylistically from LOTR. I know Wargs are supposed to be in The Hobbit, so I wonder if del Toro will go the CGI route with them like Jackson did.
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Sep 12, 2009 12:21:28 PM CDT
I love how it's named in GDT's muddled, broken English!
by fa_tass_dinomolester
"Disney Double Dare You?" That's not Kosher! Seriously, this has the potential to be quite cool. It's great a guy as creative and anti-Hollywood as Guillermo is getting to take the lead on so many projects...
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That should be in there somewhere. This is very good news.
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Who wrote that press release? Some adman from 1958? I trust Del Toro and his vision, it's just that cheesy description gives me pause.
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Del Toro is amazing and Disney seems to be making and picking up great ideas left and right.
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It probably wasn't clear, but I meant that this isn't the 80s (and it especially isn't the 90s) in the sense that there's less of a cultural push than ever for "protecting" kids from horror concepts. There was a time when someone threatening a boycott of a "Satanic" series like Harry Potter would have been treated as a credible threat, at least as a PR liability. Those films have grossed billions of dollars now and no one even remembers the way elements of the far right complained when the series started to gain popularity.
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Sep 12, 2009 2:26:52 PM CDT
the writing on Cronos, Devils Backbone and Pan's is pretty faul
by runfoodrun
Bullshit
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With him being signed by the Mouse, which now owns Marvel, there's no doubt in my mind Del Toro is going to take one of Marvel's franchises for a spin. Blade is done and over with, so any bets on what the new franchise will be? Also... will it be animated?
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Is there will never be an 'At the Mountains of Madness' movie. Oh, well, it was fun to dream...
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It was pretty to look at, but the story was pretty predictable. I've only seen a few minutes of Delgo, but this reminded me of that.Also there were some weird plot holes. So man and these giant machines all wiped each other out except for this robodog and these little beanie babies?SPOILER!The girl is a super-ninja (somehow) and dispatches the dog in about 20 seconds. Why didn't she do that a long time ago?Plus the whole "soul" subplot just doesn't make a lot of sense. A lot of dues ex machina type stuff just shoved in there for plot convenience. It's not a bad movie, I enjoyed it, but emerged from the theater with a pretty blase feeling towards it.
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Sep 12, 2009 3:09:19 PM CDT
Although I'm pretty sure he's not going to do another Marvel fil
by paddington
I still would love to see him doing that Dr. Strange movie he was talking about doing with Neil Gaiman scripting.
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Of all the retarded-assed branding! It just sounds so mongoloid. What's next, Disney Neener Neener Neener?
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Is Amazing, this deal is pretty cool, the Hobbit will be better than Lord of the rings thanks to him:P
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Sep 12, 2009 4:03:28 PM CDT
I don't mind the branding — it's meant for kids after all
by chuck_chuckwalla
I can't wait to see what GD comes up with — he's one of the top visionaries working in film today.
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"Kids" fare has gotten so trashy and awful these days. It's like a concerted effort on the part of soulless, empty-hearted adults to steal the wonder of childhood as soon as the possibly can and turn it into an ugly, twisted reflection of their own lost innocence.Well I say to hell with that, bring on this type of thing instead! Good luck, Guillermo!
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Sep 12, 2009 4:04:56 PM CDT
Some guy who calls himself "FLYNN_LIVES" is saying the 80s is ov
by kevred
Not judging by your screen name, it ain't!
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Saw that preview and it's by the numbers Lifetime bullshit.
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I can see where D.Vader is coming from. I can see the difference, in directing styles, but he said as a kid they felt like Spielberg directed. In the 80's he had a strong influence over his productions. All the films had high production values, they had the best people in every department, just like the films he directed. Spielberg approved the hiring of all department heads and was often on set suggesting shots. On some of the films, he did some of the directing. Spielberg was second unit director and directed the entire opening jail break of The Goonies, including the introduction of the kids, and the film was edited by Michael Kahn, Spielberg's editor. Spielberg started out only doing second unit directing on Poltergeist, besides producing of course. the dynamics changed with Tobe Hooper and he ended up directing more and more of the main unit. Poltergeist was also edited by Michael kahn and that film, more than any other of his "producing only films" does feel like Spielberg directed it. Robert Zemeckis style was always similar to Spielbergs, so BTTF really had a Spielberg feel.
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Sep 12, 2009 5:04:48 PM CDT
Could we possibly see a resurgence of fucked up kids movies?
by geomancer21
Like we had in the 80's? Please say yes. In the 80's kids movies had cursing, violent death scenes, slavery, animals getting blown up, blood, hell even a Care Bears movie would have kids getting possessed by demons and shit like that.
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I said that "as a kid" I always thought those were Spielberg films, and they still do. They're Spielberg-lite. And I forgot to add Poltergeist to that list as well, though for all intents and purposes, he did direct that one.
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My first sentence was supposed to end "and they still do feel like Spielberg to me".
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The Dark CrystalGremlinsThe Neverending StoryThe GooniesWillowSomething Wicked This Way ComesThe Monster SquadLegendThe Black CauldronAn American TailThe Secret of NimhLabyrinthReturn to OzPee Wee's Big AdventureHoward the DuckTime Bandits...a decade of disturbing films for children no doubt.
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of an imprint on The Hobbit. His style certainly has alot of fans here (which I found out the hard way), but it just doesn't seem to fit right with the Jackson-LOTR way. One person here said his style was more real, while Guillermo's was ethereal. I hope WETA and Jackson have him on reins creatively. These disney films should be quite good. I'm not fond of him as a writer and find his stories to be almost secondary, but he's got good style. And it would be cool to see what he brings to Disney animation....preferably with someone else writing the script.
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for someone who seems quite similar to Guillermo.
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That guy's busier than Rainer Werner Fassbinder.
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One of my favorite of the giant bug movies. Gets silly towards the end (I think every character risks themselves for someone else in the last 20 minutes or so), and I honestly wanted it to rip off both Aliens and give us a queen, and rip off The Swarm and give us a huge cloud of bugs eating NY.The WWII bomber section of Heavy Metal is very definitely animated horror.
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With the Yeti being a great way for Del Toro to flex his monster making muscle.
Its A Small World: Those puppet things are pretty creepy if you ask me. And that song starts getting under your skin in a very warped way, kinda like if it was being played by the Joker at his most terrifyingly batshit.
Tower of Terror: A group of people stuck inside an old Hollywood hotel that is haunted by the ghosts of dead celebrities from the past, lots of traps and clausterphobic pieces... right up Del Toro's alley. -
Yes, parents did indeed boycott both RETURN TO OZ and THE BLACK HOLE, the latter for its religious ending, the former for its "inappropriate scenes that scared my little Timmy." Whem Momby took off her heads, parents were left with a theater of screaming children who they had to drag out of the theater in agony. So, parents, being vengeful idiots, boycotted the movie saying Disney's name and the rating did not indicate just how disturbing and terrifying the film would be or that it would feature severed heads. The result was that Disney backed off as a sort of 'last straw" (this coupled with bad box-office for Disney's "dark" movies) from making scary movies for kids. What worries me isn't that they'll be making horror - I couldn't be more thrilled. But in terms of long-lasting success for Disney, this is a classic bad move. I'd love to say "Yeah, making horror is a great idea!" And that's what I think. But the fact is parents today are even bigger morons than parents then, incapable of accepting anything that differs. In other words, from Disney they want BEAUTY AND THE BEAST over and over and nothing else. Making horror will result in a massive backlash and may hurt Disney. And I do love Disney, too.
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Make it fuckin' happen Guillermo. Also, make Hellboy 3 happen.
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at the time, but I remember it being really cool. I watch the DVD maybe once a year.
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Tomorrowland: This could be Del Toro's big sci-fi epic. You can take the names from the Disney attractions and use them as names for locations in the movie.
Space Mountain could be the name of a space station central to the story. With fighter pods designed after the rockets you sit in, and the launch sequence designed after the one in the ride.
Space Station X-1 - could be its official designation, but its called Space Mountain by its citizens based on how it looks.
Golden Zephyr - could be the name of their "Millennium Falcon".
EO -could be the designation used for Executive Officer, instead of the usual XO... it would be a nice nod to Captain EO.
PeopleMover - could be the name of a device used in the space station to shuttle people to and fro.
Rocket Rods - could be the name of a restaurant inside the space station.
Astro Orbitor could be the name of a satellite system used in the movie.
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Do it before Perlman hits 60.
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It's about giant cockroaches and I love it!
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This is just the next part of this new Disney/Pixar/Marvel story. Everyone focused on the A list characters when the Marvel story broke. But marvel has a basement full of second string characters and stories published under the Marvel brand. Just think how much fun it would be to see something like Strange Toasters on the big screen. If you could keep this DDY somewhat autonomous from the Disney bureaucracy this could be great. There is no reason DDY couldn't produce something like MirrorMask every year and never spend more than 10-30 per picture. If I remember right the Henson kids were able to get MirrorMask to the theatres at well under ten million. I would love to look back a few years from now and see a bunch of Del Toro/DDY movies sitting next to Dark Crystal and Gremlins.
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http://tinyurl.com/oboueg
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I was also freaked out by the Ghostbusters librarian, and Tremors was a great movie about people being eated by monsters.
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But I agree, this looks like a major over-extension, unless his involvement will be more figure-headly. HellBoy 3 needs to be done at some point doesn't it? I think some are overly critical of Guillermo but they're certainly entitled to say their opinion.
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Also...I swear anyone calling Del Toro out is desperate for attention. A sage old man once gave me great advice,"Never argue with an idiot. You can't win."
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They are fucking tired of people licking their smooth tasty ice flavored bodies.
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that's the one about the underground penises in the desert, right?
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I can understand why people want Del Toro in check for The Hobbit, wanting the films to mesh and what not. I say let him of the chain! Jacksons LOTR was a nice classical telling of the story and I've always liked how he treated the movies as a historical epic rather than a fantasy one, but let Del Toro do his thing. The man obviously has a huge imagination, let him run rampant on middle-earth! Really. Prince Nuada from Hellboy 2 was infinately cooler than any elf in LOTR(Legolas) and I hope his Elves in The Hobbit are AT LEAST that cool! Fantasy is what this guy does, so for chrissakes let him fuckin do it! Also, is anyone really gonna be confused or care if the movies look a little different? Probably not.
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These recent moves really encourage me to believe that Disney has learned from its mistakes and will emerge as a real creative force in Hollywood. They seem to have gotten the message that the corporation's strength is in distribution and marketing, not in the creative side. So, turn as much responsibility over creative to the creators, and let corporate do what corporate does best - make sure the product gets on the screens and has enough marketing power behind it to make enough profit to keep making movies.
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nuff said but family entertainment for all.....mouse ka-bobs...
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There were a bunch of creepy movies that were great back in the day; when being a kid didn't mean that you were safeguard from everything in the world. Disney use to have some creepy movies that were still fun. Now that the Mouse has Marvel, why not add Del Toro for some good spooky films. But as some people already sad it, lets hopet the Mouse keeps his over-sized white mits off Del Toro anc Co. and we might get some quality scary movies.
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Monster Squad, Time Bandits, Flight of the Navigator, Space Camp, Anything with Fred Savage.
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you're wrong
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One of the reasons Creepshow is one of my favorite horror movies is because of the cool animation sequences; if they could somehow make the animations resemble that then I think they'd have something, but if this whole series revolves around Goofy shit bagging some old mans porch as a Halloween prank it'll bomb miserably.
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