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Merrick here...
I love Pixar, but I was never a huge fan of CARS. It just didn't have much "life" for me, and I always felt the setting was kind of creepy (cars living in a human world completely devoid of people feels like the end result of Skynet's genocide campaign if you ask me).
Still, the film clearly has a following; I just saw information this week indicating that franchise-related merchandise is still selling extremely well. So our getting a sequel to CARS seems beyond natural - and that's exactly what was anounced quite a while back.
This said, we didn't know much about the film's storyline until a day or two ago - when the following information came from John Lasseter during a Disney presentation in London.
The story sees Lightning McQueen (Owen Wilson), his pit team and new pit boss Mater head around the world for the Race of Champions, to take place in five different countries and involve the champions of different disciplines like Formula One and rally driving. First up is a race in Tokyo, starting at Mount Fuji and heading downtown; then there's a German race through the Black Forest; then "Porto Corsa" in Italy, which is based partly on the Monte Carlo Grand Prix; then a 24-hour race around Paris (so somewhat like Le Mans then) and finally a thrilling climax in London, approaching Buckingham Palace (where the guards appear to be Land Rovers).
But all this racing is not the only focus. Mater, who we know from the series of cartoon shorts Mater's Tall Tales (more on that in our blog in a minute) is prone to exaggeration, gets involved in a "Hitchcockian" case of mistaken identity, saves the life of a British secret agent called Finn McMissile (who looks a heck of a lot like an Aston Martin) and becomes embroiled in a huge spy thriller. Only no-one believes him. That too comes to a head at Buckingham Palace.
...reveals Empire HERE.
CARS 2 is being directed by Brad Lewis, who brought us the mostly excellent RATATOUILLE. So maybe I'll dig the cars more this time around...
But all this racing is not the only focus. Mater, who we know from the series of cartoon shorts Mater's Tall Tales (more on that in our blog in a minute) is prone to exaggeration, gets involved in a "Hitchcockian" case of mistaken identity, saves the life of a British secret agent called Finn McMissile (who looks a heck of a lot like an Aston Martin) and becomes embroiled in a huge spy thriller. Only no-one believes him. That too comes to a head at Buckingham Palace.
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Sep 11, 2009 10:34:46 AM CDT
CARS 2 SHOULD BE CHRISTINE GETTING DONE BY THE CAR AND HERBIE!!!
by carlthormark1978
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fucking nascar fans...
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But still pretty damn enjoyable.
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Sep 11, 2009 10:36:33 AM CDT
what the fuck do you mean "mostly excellent Ratatouille"?
by soylentmean
Ratatouille was all excellent, all the time.
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...that you don't hear coming on the crosswalk until it's too late...
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the hate for "Cars" and the love for "Rataturdy". That's just me, I guess.
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Give us what we REALLY want - The Incredibles 2!!!!
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It had a lovely message about people needing to slow down and start enjoying life. But I guess people take more to utter shite like Kung Fu Panda.
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Do you have to fuckin mention how how creepy you think Cars was every fuckin time you write something about it? We get it. You thought it creepy that the world was devoid of humans and in your mind the cars took over the world. You're the only fuckin person that I've ever heard mention this theory nad it's the most annoying, stupid fucking thing to read regarding that movie. Move on!
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Any Dodge Vipers? Prowlers? Barracudas? Chargers? Challengers? Chrysler 300s? Sorry, but it ain't a racing pic what ain't got vehicles with the legendary Hemi engine. To this day that powerhouse beats the crap out of any other engine in the market. When it originally debuted at the race track in 1964, NASCAR eventually banned it because it simply couldn't be beaten. True to this day. Lightning McQueen is a wuss; a Barracuda could pound him into the track any day.
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I switched it off after ten minutes. It irked me more than I expected.
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mechanophiles. If you're old enough to read this post, and you want to fuck a car, then this movie is for you.
Mechanophiles. Seriously, they make furrys look normal.
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Fuck Cars! Pixar's worst movie ever!!!!!!!!!
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Is the main character? That'll be sweet...
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Sep 11, 2009 10:49:50 AM CDT
Didn't Brad Bird gave us the "mostly excellent Ratatouille"?
by derlanghaarige
And yes, "mostly excellent" is very accurate, because while it was a very good movie, it was a dramaturgic mess. (Hey, let's give everybody in the kitchen a backstory and then let them do nothing! And then let the first half of the movie be about the rat and the boy, but then just throw in useless subplots about the boy being the heir of the restaurant owner and the evil critic.)
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It's uncharacteristic of Pixar to have a movie with negative messages, which is why Cars was so disturbing by presenting a twisted notion of nostaglia, portraying it as something that should be lived and not simply remembered and enjoyed. The message of the movie basically sums things up as "Today and Tomorrow will never be as good as Yesterday", which is an absolutely awful thing to be telling kids. Thankfully they tend to be more distracted by Mater's antics, but it's much more obvious to adults, which makes it stand out amongst the Pixar catalog as their other films don't have that saturated notion of pessimism and regressing social development.
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A pox on those that dislike it! For shame!
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Life...She is such the cruel mistress at times.
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He certainly did. Lewis produced.
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my vote for worst Pixar movie goes to the overrated and mostly boring Wall-E...graphically impressive, yes...but boring as hell...world devoid of humans applies to Wall-E as well
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...off for this. What to do?
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...I'm sure they'll figure something out.
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Some people need to realize that this universe is large enough to contain ideas that do not pertain to you.
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I have the same opinion about Cars, it's not even close to being my favourite Pixar movie. Whereas The Incredibles could have a fantastic sequel. Also waiting on The Incredibles on Blu-Ray.
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Fine, I'm poxed. Ratatouille was heralded as some great statement about art - that's great, but those pieces work best when they have some small amount of entertainment attached.
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But without... Um...
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He doesn't want to do it. If he did, Pixar would let him. They let the core group do whatever they want.
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Please have 'Crash Mode'
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Yes. Incredibles NEEDS a sequel. Cars, not so much.
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I've been highly entertained a few times by Ratatouille. But to each their own. Henceforth I shall consider ye poxed!
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And the world really, really, REALLY doesn't need another one.
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Cars will suck to anyone over 7 years of age no matter what they do.
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besides 3 year olds? But I'm pretty sure they've outgrown CARS and don't care about either now.
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He turned on his car and just sat in the garage until they greenlit this movie. Btw, rats cooking in a kitchen even if they steam cleaned themselves is waaaaaaay more creepier than a post apocalyptic world inhabited by fisher price looking cars.
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I hope the kids like Cars 2, but I won't be going. I'm a car guy, (as opposed to a "Cars" guy), but the flick bored me silly. Dopey story and characters I didn't give a crap about. Come on, Brad, the Incredibles is one film that begs for a sequel. The Toy Storys have all been grand so far. I want more Elastigirl dammit!
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Is because I think it was Paul Newman's last film. And if it wasn't, than it's assed out as far as I'm concerned.
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I hated it
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Way bigger than Toy Story. Toys R Us still has half an aisle dedicated to the merchandise. My nephew loves the movie and he wasn't even alive when it was released. Personally I thought the first movie was a lot of fun. Not Pixar's best story-wise but better than Bug's Life. Not to mention beautifully animated.
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Not exactly, of course, but still close enough to give a creepy feel to the thing. I mean what king of high-concept was pitched on this one? "It's based on Cars, of course, but with enough Speed Racer cross-over appeal to bring in all the fans of that movie to make it the biggest hit ever!" You would have thought that Pixar would have tossed that loser out without a second glance. But you would have been wrong. Sorry, but I have a bad feeling about this, not just about the movie, but what it says about Pixar. Something is off.
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Sep 11, 2009 11:17:55 AM CDT
I honestly feel they are making this
by danielplainviewonvacationinboston
to prove that the first went wrong. They're going to make up for that letdown by giving us a real Pixar quality film.
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And to everyone who say's "Why do we need a sequel". The answer is "Because Disney is a COMPANY. They make money or they stop existing". Cars is the perfect film to make toys. Rattatouille and Up don't exactly scream merchandise. In addition, kids LOVED the first film. I take my son to all Pixar films and a few others. Despite the fact that I enjoy the others considerably more, Cars is his favorite. So, basically, Pixar is making an intelligent financial decision as well as doing the fans of Cars (and there are a LOT of them) a great service.That being said, the plot that they descibed sounds like it would make for a great competition to Mario Kart.
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Sep 11, 2009 11:20:37 AM CDT
Hey, Brad Bird and John Lassetter, the message is CLEAR...
by brashhulk
Incredibles 2 would be infinitely more well-received than any other Pixar project in development right now - whether it be new or a sequel. Sure, people will still line up to see whatever you guys put on the screen next, and it'll get good critical reviews, and make a lot of money. BUT... just this once, would it hurt to listen to public opinion?
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comic book writer Dan Slott (Mighty Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man) is also a proponent of the "cars killed all the humans in a Judgment Day-like scenario" theory.
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Sep 11, 2009 11:26:50 AM CDT
BrashHulk... public opinion isn't limited to AICN talkbacks.
by beastie
It exists in elementary schools, toy stores, and playgounds around the world. Cars 2 would be more well received than The Incredibles, if you count everyone watching, not just the most vocal.
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Aka "The Further Adventures of Lightning McQueen and Mater the Redneck Moron." I hope there's more to the film than that; TOY STORY 2 wasn't just a random next adventure, it was a thematic continuation with actual character development.
Personally I'd hoped for something weirdly existential and philosophical, like the Cars asking themselves where they come from and where their creator(s) went. Delve into the mythology (literally) of the world a little, you know. -
does anyone look at that Invisible Woman model and think, "gee, instead of making the next FF movie live action, just animate that model?" (and yea, i guess get animated models of the rest of the team too.) Anyway, those Invisible Woman poses are awesome (i need to get out more....)
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... proof that Earth was once inhabited by humans who enslaved the cars and were wiped out by the cars' ancestrals, the Transformers!
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And for that, Im excited. I like the idea of a Man Who Knew Too Much style case of mistaken identity that climaxes at the same time as the final race. That's got potential.
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i understand why they would make a sequel. every parent i talk to tells me how their kid wants to watch cars at least once a day. as people have been pointing out, us hardcore movie geeks arent the only ones on this planet.besides, its not like cars was horrible.. just 'not for me.'
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It's for 6 year old boys and having had two in that range around that time, I can tell you that Cars is SIMPLY THE MOST AWESOMEST MOVIE EVER MADE. Even at 8, though, the younger one is tired of it. So they made a kid movie just for kids once; they're still almost the only ones not trashing childhood every time they put out a cartoon.
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I maintain Cars is underrated. Bugs Life is their least enjoyable movie.
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Brad Lewis produced Ratatouille, along with The Peacemaker, Antz, and the Sandra Bullock/Ben Affleck romp Forces of Nature. Cars 2 would serve as his directorial debut.
Brad BIRD, directed Ratatouille, The Incredibles, and The Iron Giant.
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If there's no humans is the queen a car as well? Yeah I'm with whoever posted the article, the world of Cars is creepy.
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he didn't Direct, that was Brad Bird. im a huge pixar fan. i'm an animation student, so it almost comes with the territory... but this story just doesnt seem up to pixar standards. A story about a Race car learning how to slow down has Pixar poetry.... but then that same race car getting involved in international espionage? that really doesn't sit well with me.
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I know they say it was meant to be about "slowing down to smell the roses" but I agree with the poster that mentioned it wallowed in nostalgia and taught kids any progress is bad progress (there wasn't really any middle ground in the film). The message is essentially the complete opposite of Toy Story 2.
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Sep 11, 2009 11:57:48 AM CDT
Cars that have tongues look wrong and a little creepy
by col. tigh-fighter
So thats why its my least favourite Pixar movie. But its Pixar! Even there worst is better than most. And you know its going to look gorgeous! And for the Rattattouile haters out there. That film is perfect from start to finish, and the scene where Peter O'Toole finally tastes the Rattattoilue is one of the great moments in cinema, in my humble opinion :)
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Pixar is allowed to make a sequel to "Cars". Especially since part 1 made $461,983,149 and had a $60 million dollar opening weekend. That ain't just brand loyalty. That is powered by kids. So I don't see what the fuss is about. Sure I prefer "The Incredibles" and that movie made WAY more money. But I am sure the sequel to that movie is being saved for down the road.
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Don't ruin it with an unnecessary sequel. The ending was perfect.
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Which was why it was an excellent Pixar film (among the likes of Wall E, Finding Nemo and Incredibles). This film will make bank, but it sounds like shit.
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http://agent44.com/blog2/?p=46
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Can't get enough of it. Pixar struck gold when it comes to entertaining males under the age of 10.
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Fundamental story problems and weak characters, whereas every other Pixar movie is nearly perfect in storytelling.
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You know.. maybe Lightning McQueen is just another attention whore..
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Bug's Life wasn't very enjoyable either. And dare I say, I didn't like Toy Story 2 much. But it's unfair to bunch that up with the other 2 pieces of crap.
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Circus bugs! :)
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Brad Bird did, motherfucker.
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I too couldn't get into Cars. Larry the Cable Guy was a factor. The fact that I have no interest in NASCAR is another. With the latter a shrugged, figured 'ok different demographic, whatever,' but the prior made me annoyed... and then I got to think about how odd it is that company that's all about environmental messages would make a movie about cars... especially cars that drive around in circles. Pixar has been making increasingly sophisticated films with fresher ideas for plot formulation, but Cars felt like an unapologetic cash in. I hate to piss on anyone who liked it, but I'm with the 'where's my goddamn Incredibles 2!?!?!?' crowd.
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I liked some of the bugs in there and it was quite funny. But seriously, when comparing it to this decade's Pixar efforts it's nothing specia.
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is a ridiculous notion. It's a self contained story; a one-off. When people make sequels to these kinds of stories, you get cinematic diarrhea like "Highlander 2." Unnecessary, and completely ruined what would have otherwise been a great story.
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Yes... I really liked Speed Racer. It was damn near perfectly cast, entertainingly shot, and just sorta worked on all levels at what I felt it was going for. Eh.
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Just like the last one. Oh yes, we all want more of Mater, the Jar Jar Binks of Pixar. *eyeroll*
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As a parent I've seen the damn thing enough, hell I even learned some basic NASCAR shit that I didn't know before (no headlights, points system, etc).
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How bad Ratatouille was doing and how it was going to be a failure to Pixar compared to Cars, when worldwide Ratatouille is the third highest grossing movie for Pixer behind Nemo and Incredibles. Up is about to overtake Cars worldwide and its not even opened every where yet. So I'm glad to see that toy sales have propelled a sequel to this. I am guilty of buying some of the toys, just the car version of Buzz and Woody and the Monsters. Though Pixar has done an amazing job with the toys as well as the movies. You kind of have to when your first movie is all about Toys. Its just kind of funny. Though I also think its cool that there are hardly any Up toys, proving that they aren't all about toys.
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I have no hate for Bug's Life. Greater films have come from Pixar, yes, but it was such an early effort and one that I do like characters and scenes from. A lot of their great stuff was built on the backs of Toy Story and Bug's Life. They were the training wheels.
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Sep 11, 2009 12:38:33 PM CDT
sigh...my 3 1/2 year old daughter is gonna go CRAZY
by just pillow talk
over this.
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Per website the-numbers.com... world-wide box office for "The Incredibles" was $635,564,642, compared to "Cars" at $461,982,881. DVD sales for "The Incredibles" have topped 21,000,000 units, compared to not quite 20,000,000 for "Cars". The only apsect I can see "Cars" topping "The Incredibles" is with merchandising, but I doubt the gap would be over $150,000,000 - the minimum gap between box office and DVD sales between the two movies. Also, from a critical standpoint, Rotten Tomatoes has "The Incredibles" at 97% fresh with 224 reviews counted from around the world (95% for Top Critics), while "Cars" has only a 75% fresh rating from all critics and 72% from the Top Critics. Sounds to me that from EVERY measurable aspect, not just AICN talkbackers, a sequel to "The Incredibles" would be vastly more welcome than a sequel to "Cars." But hey, that's just my opinion, right?
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Sep 11, 2009 12:40:07 PM CDT
Why no Monsters Inc 2?????????? It was the best Pixar flick
by drsambeckett1984
Surely there are a great deal more stories to be told using Mike and Sully, than the cars characters. I didn't mind Ratatoiue, but despised Wall E, cute little robot and zero story.
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The focus will always be on the Steve car. I can see a bunch of international type car stuff and jokes coming from Japan and London. The Mater secret agent suff sounds like a funny sub plot.
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That would be cool. But don't make him talk. That would fuck it up.
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Spiderman freak was right. Cars should of had people in it. Why are there tractors for cows? do the cars drink tractor milk? Also why did they have a combine as the bull? Does that mean the combine sits around all day fucking tractors? If so, they should put that in the sequel! As far a french rat, I tried to watch it but I could get into it. having a rat puppet master under the dipshit's hat was just too stupid for me.
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$600 million in merchandise from Cars around the time of release and close to a billion in 2005.Don't get me wrong, I, personally, would much rather see an Incredibles sequel. But Cars struck a note with kids that will probably resonate their entire lives, much like so many movies of the 70s, 80s and 90s did with me, and that has kept it profitable.
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Sep 11, 2009 12:49:42 PM CDT
We're bitching because Pixar is wasting time with a sequel...
by revenge_of_fett
to a film most people see as their worst and which is one of the lowest grossers! http://www.boxoff icemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=vs-pixar.htmMeanwhile their high grossers which everybody loves, like The Incredibles, goes without a sequel even though it's story would flow into a sequel much easier than Cars!Toy Story, while much beloved by all.....is one of their lowest grossers, yet that's getting a third sequel. finding Nemo, which I believe is their highest grosser somewhere around $860M worldwide, gets nothing.I'm just saying that it really looks like the only reason Cars is getting a sequel is because John Lasseter has a well-publicized boner for Cars. The thing only made $461 WW. The sequel will probably only make 2/3 that. It's just a waste of time, talent, energy and screen space.M'name's Mater. Ya know, like tuh-mater without the tuh."GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!
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Wow! Plenty of room for lots and lots of racial stereotypes, right out of central casting! What a brainless fucking load.
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Keep in mind with those DVD numbers they may include Blu-ray. To date Cars has been released on Blu-ray (and is, for some fucking reason) getting RE-RELEASED on Blu-ray), and The Incredibles has not. http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3315
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Cars may not be my favorite Pixar film, but it is very watchable. I am an expert on the watchability of Cars, because my 3-year-old son has made me watch 3 times a week since the DVD came out.
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for the others films and would want to give them thoughtful sequels. Nemo was about the story, rather than the characters and that story was told. Cars and The Incredibles were about the characters which puts both of them in better positions for sequels. Incredibles is cherished more by adults, who would be making the film. Therefor, maybe the people who would make the film might want to take their time, as the audience isn't going away or hitting that special time of their lives when they start to notice the opposite sex, any time soon.
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I suggest "Bright Lights, Big City." Only with cars.
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Is being continued in comics. I heard they are pretty good. I read the Toy Story comics and they were alright nothing special very childish. Then right after the last issue came out Boom Comics released the trade for like 3-4 bucks cheaper then buying all the comics. So fuck buying pixar comics week to week, especially if they are going to turnaround on the trade so fast and for cheap. Plus then maybe if I ever move out of my mom basement and meet a women that can have babies with a 400 pound man I may let them read it, but I will not let any satan spawn of mine touch my individual comics. I don't even read them.
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Its called Big Fish.
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It won't be the same without him
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Even though I agree with most people that Cars was Pixars weakest film and questioned why they were even thinking about making a sequel, after reading the synopsis I found myself thinking that this one might actually be interesting. Although, Im still looking forward to Toy Story 3, as long as it doesnt end up too similar to The Brave Little Toaster...
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Get yer heads out of yer ass and back in the game. I believe that Pixar can improve on the flawed first film's story, we've already seen that they can produce great sequels, but the Cars world is just not the type of place I would want to visit again. I've never seen a film that had so many reviews tearing down the basic logic of how this imaginative world would actually work. The fundamentals of the original movie are flawed and no sequels is going to fix that...unless they show us where car babies come from. Oh yeah.
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Loved cars..I cant wait for the sequal...also I think its next year, the return of the dragon warrior...KUNG FU PANDA 2...does anyone have a release date for cars and Panda...if this all has been said already..I apologize..but let me know..respects all..
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It grooms their kids to watch NASCAR. That's why CARS merchandise is such a big hit at Wal-Mart.
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For some reason, little kids are obsessed with Cars in a really weird way. I'm sure they are making buckets of cash and realize more than any other Pixar movie they have a franchise on their hands...toys, rides, etc. From a business perspective, Cars 2 is just the beginning. I am amazed that they got Brad Bird to do this one though. They must have backed the dump truck up to his house full of precious chinese metals. Ho Hum.
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Yes!!!
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That plot sounds stupid but very easy. This is them selling out. Cars 2 takes no thought to make. I already fear what they are going to do for the Japanese and German cars. Pixar make Ant man you fuckers and stop milking your easy titles. We don't want a second version of your worst film ugh.
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I know this has already been stated, but it REALLY is the closest thing they made to a "kids only" type movie. My 4 year old son has Mater blankets and the baby has Lightning McQueen shoes, etc. They will be way more excited about Cars 2 than Toy Story 3.
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Is that it ends up giving that fuck stick Larry The Cable Guy money. Now I feel like I am to blame for helping that man become famous. Though this is the only worthwhile venture he'll ever be involved with.
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Sachon Baron Cohen is the voice of one of the European cars.
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Cars is the sequel to Maximum Overdrive after all human life has been wiped out. If you don't think that's downright creepy, I pity you.
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if so, ive already seen the japanese race
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one sequel too many.
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once it was over, i didn't love it, didn't hate it. yes, the plot was a recycled one (which i didn't find all that grand to begin with), and i wasn't emotionally invested in a single character from the story, but... wait a sec... on second thought, Cars blew ass.
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for Paul Newman to be happy that he's dead.
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And probably about 90% of it was because of Larry the Cable Guy doing a voice.
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Can people please stop saying that a film is "shit" just because they didn't like it? Opinion is not something objective. Just because the story and characters did not appeal to your particular sensibilities does not mean it was somehow badly made, ok?Is Cars my favourite Pixar film? Not by a long shot. It is probably the one I like the least and the one I will return to least often in the future, but that doesn't make it a bad film. It tells its story simply and effectively, with broad humour, and the visuals at times are the most lush and vibrant in Pixar's catalogue, especially in terms of natural scenery. That's still true no matter how much the central concept might not appeal to you.Labelling anything (film, music, TV, pizza topping) as "shit" just because you don't like it is at best lazy writing from people who either lack the time, the inclination or the vocabulary to express themselves properly, or at worst stunning self-importance, thinking that your opinion is so intrinsically valuable that anything that does not meet your exacting standards is not fit for human consumption, because you obviously know better than everyone else in the world, right?
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There is no God.
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because they don't have to work as hard on story and the merchandising sells incredibly well so it's easy money. If it's not a creative disaster that scuffs up the shine of their name, I don't mind, but DO want them to make that Incredibles sequel and make it worth this fucking wait.
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hippie, PC douchebags like most of you like Wall-E. Not for the story, but for the message. Cars=gas=pollution=capitalism=bad. Wall-E=envirnomentalism=liberals=good. in 20 years, people won't still be watching Wall-E, but they still will be watching Cars.
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Sep 11, 2009 1:50:33 PM CDT
What Would Happen When Lightning Needed to Turn Right?!!!
by darfurontherocks2
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its usually an art heist or diamond caper involved
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I think you're getting Left Wingers mixed up with kiddie fondlers.
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I hate his stand-up as much as the next guy, but he was perfect as the voice of Mater. Glad to see he'll be back.
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I can't wait for Cars 2, to me it was the most visually stunning from pixar. I couldn't help but savor every inch of scenery in that movie, the detail in the backgrounds and structures just completely boggle the mind. Cannot wait for another romp with cars that are alive...wish they would pop some Cameos from K.I.T.T., THE GENERAL LEE, THE DELOREAN, Herbie...it'd be cool to see PIXARS version of them...maybe we'll see a spidey-mobile in the background..????
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there'll be fuck all oil left to run your own damn cars. Ah hyuk.
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KITT and the DeLorean from Back to the Future are both owned by Universal. The General Lee is owned by Warner Brothers. They won't be making an appearance in a Disney Film. The only possibility is either Chitty Chitty Bang Bang or Herbie The Love Bug.
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all the speed droolers will have fun "finding" references and resemblances to reality. All to the tune of a new Randy Newman hit! "He starts up his engine...vroooom. He shifts into neutral! He depresses the gas pedal, once, twice, a little harder this time, again, making loud noises." sell coloring books.repeat.
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Bravo! If everyone on here were as eloquent as you I think we'd have a higher caliber of discussion on our hands.
The thing I can't get over is how many people are like "Pixar's not listening to the public" and "Pixar's taking the easy way out." First of all the public of small kids who are OBSESSED with Cars and its merchandise are being listened to. Second, since when has Pixar ever taken the easy way out. Sure they've got films that are better than other, but even the lower half of the catalogue were all clearly labors of love with careful thought put into story, character, style, etc. Cars 2 will be no exception.
I'm the first to cringe at a seemingly unnecessary sequel, and I've NEVER thought there was a Pixar film that needed one, they've all been great one-shots. I cringed when Toy Story 2 was announced, but now it's tied or beaten the first one in my book. Half-assed is not in these people's vocabulary, so stop crying foul when no crimes have yet to be committed.
If anything can be concluded from this talkback it's that everyone has very different opinions on the value-ordering of the Pixar canon. Nemo is overrated? Ratatouille is crap? Yeah. Whatever. Go make a movie and win an oscar yourselves, and then we'll talk!
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My opinion is that your opinion is shit.
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all the major buildings were reminiscent of iconic Route 66 structures. The desert rock formations were a fantastic melding of auto and natural forms. If you love rolling down the highway through the American west as much as I do, CARS is hard to beat.
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The sequel to cars?
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Oh, because it had zero cars in it. I get you.
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Sep 11, 2009 2:48:12 PM CDT
until kids start paying for movie tickets with thier
by jackknifed_juggernaut
own goddamned (earned) money, i couldn't give a rat's hair-pulling, food-cooking-ass what *they're* obsessed with. the Incredibles own, while Cars beg and borrow. Incredibles 2, please? that is all.
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Germany told me about this a couple of weeks ago, they have them driving as fast as they can through the autobahn near Munich and take some pictures and video
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Take your opinions and shove them back up your ass where they come from and where they belong. No one cares.
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Merrick, this was probably one of the funniest things I've ever read. Bravo. "I love Pixar, but I was never a huge fan of CARS. It just didn't have much "life" for me, and I always felt the setting was kind of creepy (cars living in a human world completely devoid of people feels like the end result of Skynet's genocide campaign if you ask me)." Bravo.
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Really? Did you happen to notice at the end of the movie that the town completely upgraded itself, made itself a big tourist mecca, basically put itself back on the map? Did we even see the same movie or are you just talking out of your ass having seen it only once and already deciding it wasn't good? I would agree the "stop and smell the roses" message is the actual message. Not sure where the anti-progress thing comes from.
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Sep 11, 2009 3:29:59 PM CDT
And do they have interiors with seats and air conditioning?
by gibsonusa returns
Who sits in them? Or is it like, guts and organs inside the doors?
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Everyone knows it. My kids hated it and stopped watching after 30 minutes. They regularly watch Cars and Incredibles.
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and Incredibles. I've seen the other ones, and I just didn't like them.
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There's even going to BE a "Cars 2" but not an Incredibles 2???
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is a Dreamworks fan.
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Sep 11, 2009 4:21:48 PM CDT
Incredibles, Ratatouille and Wall-E are their 3 best
by performingmonkey
That's right, I say those 3 are better than Nemo and both Toy Storys. The main reason for the Toy Story and Cars sequels is the merchandise (Cars did HUGE merch money, and we all know how big Toy Story merch is). We should be thankful that they are making these movies because they will help fund more and more brilliant original flicks from them for years to come! They won't drop the ball on either movie too. Cars NEEDS a sequel because it was the only film they've ever done that didn't match up to what we expected. Personally I don't think they managed to get the graphics of the cars' eyes right, this is something they can improve on here. They can make Cars more worthwhile and not a blip on their flawless record.
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"Thanks to the cash for clunkers program. you're all out!" And then the entire cast is replaced by a bunch of wimpy hybrid Prius Volt crap.
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It just didn't seem realistic with people eventually becoming so fat they can't even walk. I know they were trying to make a statement about human laziness, but I think they exaggerated. Loved Incredibles, but, I think UP was better than Ratatoille and WALL-E. I'm starting to think there are some serious Brad Bird fanboys who can't admit not everything the guy does is golden.
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is Pixar's weakest film. never understood the high praise for that one. Wall-E and Up are two of the best. My all around favorite and most original and entertaining one would have to be Monsters, Inc.
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NO. Pixar does not suck nor do any of their films. Car may not be your favorite, but that hardly qualifies it as a steaming pile. Talking cars is too much of a stretch for you? But living toys, talking bugs, monsters in alternate reality closets, super heroes, cooking rats, and a house floating by way of baloons is logical? A dislike or hatred of NASCAR as reason to dislike the film is a valid yet shallow point. I don't like sharks, but Jaws is a great movie. Speaking of NASCAR, It's fans come from every walk of life, not all are southern rednecks. There is this odd notion that fans and athletes of sports such as football or baketeball are well educated pillars of polite society. Have you read the news? Have you been to a college or pro game? I would much rather my children have sports heroes such as Dale Earnhardt Jr., Jimmy Johnson, Carl Edwards or Mark Martin than Michael Vick, Donte Stallworth, or Kobe Bryant. Same cross section of Americans just wearing different hats. It is also a myth that NASCAR is as easy as going fast and turning left. Several open-wheel driver from F1 and Indycar say NASCAR is the most difficult of the racing series including open-wheel champions Juan Pablo Montoya, Sam Hornish Jr. and Robby Gordon. Most who try do not succeed like Dario Franciti. Going 180mph and turning left with 42 other cars bunched up four inches from each other doesn't look that easy. The NASCAR element of the film was spot on.
I have to disagree with TheSecondQuest--
"It's uncharacteristic of Pixar to have a movie with negative messages, which is why Cars was so disturbing by presenting a twisted notion of nostaglia, portraying it as something that should be lived and not simply remembered and enjoyed. The message of the movie basically sums things up as "Today and Tomorrow will never be as good as Yesterday", which is an absolutely awful thing to be telling kids. Thankfully they tend to be more distracted by Mater's antics, but it's much more obvious to adults, which makes it stand out amongst the Pixar catalog as their other films don't have that saturated notion of pessimism and regressing social development."
The message is similar to Toy Story and Monsters Inc. in that you just because you (or in this case the world) has grown it doesn't mean that the things that once made you happy are useless. With Cars it is as true as it was for Feriis Bueller, "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." With Mater, (by the way Larry the Cable Guy is an act in the same way that Pee Wee Herman is an act and it works here) McQueen found that despite his rust and way of speaking he is a good friend. The winning and money aren't everything, it's how you conduct yourself, treat your friends and run the race. There is nothing wrong with taking the scenic route or putting down the cell phone or video game and spending time with your grandparents. Ther are more important things in life than yourself. Would I rather see a new original Pixar film, absolutely, but taking a trip down memory lane won't be a bad diversion. -
they make very nice looking films...but their stories take absolutly no chances. predictable shit. pablum for the masses..feel good preachings for suburban families... god im about to throw up a bit thinking of their films...yes that includes ratatuile, incredibles up etc etc etc
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beat that fucking retards!!!
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Disney likes those bucks they get from all the Cars toys selling Wal-Mart. So they make a new movie to introduce a bunch of new cars to they can sell even more toys! The story be damned, Disney must have it's money!
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Look, I like cartoons, so I know things are real, ok? But little talking cars? WTF? Where do they come from? Do cars fuck and then have baby cars? Or are the pathetic remnants of humanity slaving away in some factory somewhere to create their 4-wheeled overlords? Just fucking weird.
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Is like saying a handjob is the worst kind of sex.
Frankly, while cars isn't my favorite out of the Pixar lineup, I *will* say that I enjoyed it more than A Bugs Life. And Up, for that matter. But I still love those, too.
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Sep 11, 2009 6:29:39 PM CDT
And yeah, Ratatouille is probably my least favorite so far...
by monkeylord
But I think that speaks to just how *good* Pixar movies are. Each one appeals to different people with different tastes in different ways... and while Ratatouille is my least favorite, plenty of other people think it's incredible.
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Not make a sequel of cars? I have a 3 and a half year old daughter, and let me tell you ever kid at her preschool goes nuts for Cars.
Notice how many years after the movie came out and these kids are going gaga for it? It's hugely relatable and kids, just like adults, like flashy cars. Also remember Cars hits the NASCAR demographic pretty strongly. It's no coincidence Larry the Cable guy was tapped here. I thought the movie was a little long when I saw it but enjoyable. That's Pixar though... all their movies are a tadddd bit too long. I don't know why that is. -
All of Pixar's are great. Cars, less so. Too rednecky.
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UP, Wall-E, and the Incredibles all took chances, or are you saying that a movie that tells americans they are too fat, wasteful and will lead to the destruction of our planet is "safe? Or perhaps UP, with it's frank portrayal of someone dying and openly explored the grieving process is "safe" with you? Yeah maybe most of their movies the message is shifted into "family" life, but.. uhh... what do you think the target market is for this? if you can't relate, I'm guessing it's because your graduating class has a zero in as the first digit it and you haven't made it to that point in your life.
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Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc., Bugs Life,Ratatouille... Yes I agree 100%, none of them were BAD, but Cars is FAR from the worst. Oh and to the idiot who says Cars 2 is a cash in...where the fuck have you been the last ooooooo 40 years?!?!?! Toy Story 3 ring a bell?? Or any other of the 70,000 Disney sequels?!?!?
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Sep 11, 2009 7:12:41 PM CDT
Tapeworm2042- I think the execution differs from the intent
by thesecondquest
I have no doubts that Pixar's intention with Cars' message was to say "Enjoy life- stop and smell the roses" etc, etc. And while some of that is there, I believe the execution is where things get distorted into "today is awful and sucks, yesterday was great and magical- we need to make things like they were yesterday for things to be happy and good and right again". It's different than Toy Story- Toy Story also had the "things that once made you happy still can" message, but they didn't have Buzz Lightyear/"the new thing" made out to be something that should be scorned and discarded in favor of only Woody- they showed how both the modern and and nostalgic can coexist. Cars doesn't do this. Cars says McQueen's modern world is wrong and the nice little town suffers because of it. Only when the modern world abandons it's ways and adopts those of days past will the characters and town be able to be happy and make the world right. And that's just the wrong message to be sending to kids who should be finding their own happiness and making their own world- not being told that their life/world and what makes them happy is inherently flawed/lesser than that which came before them.
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CARS: Why do the cars in CARS live in houses and hotels obviously structured for the use of humans? Where do the car-fireflies come from? Why are there only a few very old cars in the movie - surely they could keep replacing their parts and be immortal? The cars have no hands - so how did they actually construct the buildings and roads in their world? Why is the tar-laying machine not sentient like the cars, lorries, combine harvester & tractors?
TOY STORY 1&2: from the very first movie it is shown that the toys can reveal they are 'living beings' to humans (when they scare the nasty kid neighbor) - so why do they always fall down when a human enters the room like it's some kind of unbreakable law that they have to? In Toy Story 2 Woody is revealed to be a collector's item toy from the fifties - so how come he doesn't already know this? All the other toys (bar Buzz Lightyear) know what they are and where they come from? When do the toys become sentient: as soon as they've been cast from a mould? Once they've been painted? Did you really get see-through plastic fronted toy packaging like Stink Pete's box back in the fifties?
A BUG'S LIFE: why do the flies have compound eyes but the other insects have human-style eyes? Why are ants (which are the only other species along with man that go to war with each other in large numbers) portrayed as peace-loving creatures, but vegetarian grasshoppers are shown as nasty brutes? Why is the bird just a normal bird and not a sentient creature like the insects? Why do the ants only have four limbs, but the grasshoppers have six?
WALL-E: why does everyone praise this film for being so daring in its first act because it has no dialogue - when, in fact, there are TALKING holographic billboards used at the start of the film to explain the polluted Earth story-line to us? (Okay, I like Wall-E, I'm just being picky.)
FINDING NEMO: why are the predatory sharks portrayed as sentient, speaking beings, but the predatory, deep-sea anglerfish isn't? -
Yeah, awful film. It doesn't have the emotional core or originality or wit of any of Pixar's movies.
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Sep 11, 2009 7:39:32 PM CDT
*ahem* let's try that again (damned Enter key) Ratatouille
by jackknifed_juggernaut
is the only Pixar film i nearly fell asleep on (and gf actually did). a masterwork from an animation standpoint, no doubt, but it's hard to believe anyone could put it above The Incredibles or Monsters, Inc.-- Pixar's 1st & 2nd best, respectively.
and speaking of which, if we're going to do sequels, how about some Monsters, Inc. BOO action, eh? (see what i did there?) we can follow Sulley and Mike as they train an older Boo and new-hire, Maurice (Howie Mandel's character from Little Monsters) to eventually take their places. kind of on some Tommy Lee Lones, MIB shit. -
Like an R rated Pixar movie? How cool would that be? Better than that shitty Animatrix.
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ive always thought a bug life was a huge rip off of Three Amigos. (has that been well documented? seriously, i dont know.) i mean, a bunch of actors that think they're putting on a show fighting a rough group of 'banditos'.. only to find that ITS NOT ACTING! bugs life=three amigos.
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i'm hard pressed to think of another film/project that had such a discrepancy between what i *thought* something would be, and what it actually was.
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... except with cars?
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All is great in the world of Cars until the talking Chevron cars come back and kill all of the imposters and take over the world!
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Now before anyone starts getting their panties in a bind, let me explain. It lacked that Pixar magic, it was very weak and not very entertaining. Maybe if I was a NASCAR fan, I might of understood the film more. I don't know.
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always take it personal if i make a comment that you disagree with? then you have to insult me personally? you know NOTHING about me. i think pixar films are shit and I stand by that....oh i also hate small cute animals and worship the devil...are you happy now??
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sure is a sensitive prick.
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Sep 11, 2009 9:45:07 PM CDT
Re: So are there any AMERICAN cars in this sequel? by FeralAngel
by desloch
The HEMI deserves its reputation as an ass-kicking engine, however, I think your statement "When it originally debuted at the race track in 1964, NASCAR eventually banned it because it simply couldn't be beaten. True to this day." is a bit misleading. Chrysler's version did dominate in 1964 and it was banned in 1965. It returned in 1966 and still did well, but by 1968 it no longer dominated. It's a fine engine, but it's not the only worthwhile one. Also note that the new HEMI does not actually have truly hemispherical combustion chambers.
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i HAVE a sensitive prick
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.. but nowhere close to Bent Cranium's GRX engine.
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coz the story is unappealing thanks to its "creepyness" fuck cars.
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and now Cars 2. The trail of crap grows ever longer...
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So I didn't win a prize?
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http://tinyurl.com/mx5f2b holy shit i knew they were not gonna let it die!!!!
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Funny I always though the idea of cars just driving themselves with no people was just the dumbets thing you could let your child watch. Talking cars ok, but no humans...why do the cars exist then? MAKES NO SENSE...stupid stupid stupid.
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i thought it was kinda weird.
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than Ratatouille or Up. I enjoyed the interaction of the cast a lot more. Ratatouille just didn't grab me. Maybe it's cause my dad loved Nascar (which meant I had no choice but to watch it), so the Nascar related stuff meant something to me. I liked picking out which car was which Nascar driver. But I would much rather see Incredibles 2.
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Don't get me wrong, Cars was okay. But it had to be the worst Pixar movie (even though Pixar's worst is still better than most everything else, that's still no excuse). C'mon, Pixar. Give us INCREDIBLES 2 and STOP DICKING AROUND!!!
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damn that shit was awful. someone shoulda warned me.
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I won't say they raped my adulthood but Pixar is starting to annoy me. I thought they were above doing projects for commerce sake but it seems like that whole section devoted to Cars in the ToysRUs aisle just wasn't big enough for them. Cars was disappointing to me but I guess a lot of kids out there love that movie.
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I didn't understand it when I saw the trailer, I didn't understand it when I was watching it, and I don't understand it now. Where are the people? What is the point? I don't like people all that much anyway so it's not like I want them to be there, I just want to understand what the hell i'm watching.
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I know movie's are a matter of taste, but since this is kind of a troll/flame-only site - are you kidding me about "mostly excellent?" Ratatouteely or however you spell it is a MASTERPIECE! Yes, i know this is a site for geeks, and therefore you're only allowed to jerk off to The Incredibles, but Ratlapoudle movie is magic. And who's the guy who posted that it's a mess because they told the backstory of the kitchen staff, but did nothing with it... Wha? So did you throw a flaming bottle at the screen after the bar scene in Inglorious basterds?
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Kids are going to be curled up in a ball. "Is it the fourth race yet?" "No, honey, still the third." "Oooooooh, and then we've got the fourth, and then the fifth!" And the plot is so thin they need a mistaken identity Hitchcock b-story? That plot sounds like the worst of SIMPSONS episodes.
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Sep 12, 2009 2:46:19 AM CDT
So in the Cars universe, who built Paris? And Tokyo?
by gibsonusa returns
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...is merchandising. So the movie wasn't an Incredibles size grosser? It doesn't matter. The toys and coloring books that sell to kids and most specifically (generally) little boys have long since dwarfed and blown away the lower box office. Add new characters and a new movie? You can sell more toys and coloring books for a few more years. And quite simply, it's things like that which allow the company to take the chances on the more adult Pixar flicks like Wall-E. It's something that little boys can be drawn to to play with, collect, and enjoy that doesn't involve guns, explosions, and death - which all in all is a rare damned thing these days. So get past the fact that Cars 2 is not probably meant as a movie for most adults...but for kids. Besides, everyone here bitches about how dumb each successive Pixar movie sounds - but still goes to see it anyway so that they can truly tell everyone how dumb it was...but they still got your money - which makes you the sucker. Sucker.
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You know, the Stephen King story where machines turn on their masters, the one that Maximum Overdrive was based on.
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They created the cities and shit by thinking. That is so obvious, how could you overlook that? My guess is that peoples co-exist along with these psionic mutants
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Plus it had Paul Newman. C'mon it's what it is. Beep Beep, vroom vroom. It's no Monsters Inc, but it was fun.
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Hate Cars because of lack of humans but yet prefer a movie about a disease infested rodent in a kitchen with food that is served to humans.
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And I LOVE...THE INCREDIBLES.
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That's a given. But yeah, with the purchase of Marvel, Disney has so many superhero options.
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this was the boring one out of the pixar films,what about nemo 2?or billy and john coming back for monsters 2?
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I loved the first one. At least it's not a remake.
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best golden age superhero comic movie ever
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i agree...weak concept.
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FUCK CARS. FUCK THEM UP THEIR STUPID MUFFLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Brad BIRD isn't attached. The PRODUCER from Incredibles is attached, NOT the DIRECTOR. Just because they both have the first name "Brad", does not make them the same.
Also, Bird will do Incredibles 2 when he has an idea for it, he's said so MANY times. And Cars 2 gets the sequal because of merchandising. Same stupid questions over and over... -
And your overrated shitfests.
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Sorry.
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Ratatouille is without question the weakest Pixar effort to date, worse even than Wall-E which was also pretty dire. Wall-E was a cute character animation that would have made an interesting short but simply couldn't hold up a feature, not with the story Pixar cobbled together around him anyway. Ratatouille was the same except that it was all about making CG food "look good enough to eat", with a pathetically flimsy story and lazily constructed characters thrown together around that technical conceit.
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http://tinyurl.com/oboueg You'd watch it.
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It's the kiss of death when any studio panders to dumb ass kids
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I'm really enjoying reading all the Pixar hate...not because I hate Pixar, but just because they've been so over-praised for, basically, making mildly enjoyable kids films that adults don't mind watching. I've liked a few of their films (Toy Story 2, UP) but, I think a lot of their movies are fairly manipulative and insincere...even the moments that are supposed to be "poetic" feel glib to me. And, If you want a clue as to how Pixar REALLY feels about the audience they're making movies for, check out Wall-E and Ratatouille. To steal, butcher, and paraphrase a line from A.O. Scott; does it sound like I hate Pixar? Don't be fooled, Pixar hates you.
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Lightning McQueen gets made over as a Dalorian, only he discovers he can travel through time if he goes faster than 88 mph. So he goes into the future, buys a sports almanac and gives it to himself so he can place bets. only the almanac says he wins NASCAR like every year, so he gets lazy. After he loses all his money betting on himself, but loses because he thinks it's self fulfilling prophecy, he goes and hooks up with this other car who turns out to be his mother. Then he sends her back in time and wakes up the next day and his girlfriend is Elisabeth Shue and he's the deputy mayor of Cars Town. He gets so excited by this he starts to have engine trouble. But the shakes get so bad he is forced to resign as deputy mayor of car town and lays low for a bit until he resurfaces on Rescue Me. Cars 3 is a western. It's actually called Coaches. Co-Starring Craig T. Nelson.
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...even Pixar computer animated films. I've actually even started to prefer the duds that mixed traditional animation with CG, like Treasure Planet, Dreamwork's Sinbad, and Atlantis: those films are actually wonderful to look at in many ways - whilst the totally CG ones (Pixar's films, plus Shrek, Monsters Versus Aliens, etc) become kinda boring to watch because what they achieve seems less impressive because anything can be cooked-up in a computer. What saves Pixar's output is that, more often than not, they've put a lot of effort into the story.
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Okay, it's pretty good - but it stops being a superhero satire movie at one point and becomes a James Bond satire movie instead.
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Those were some good questions - but I want to address your Nemo point about the angler-fish. He/She could've very well be sentient, but it was hunting prey and it was alone. So it had nothing to say to Marlin and Dory, and it's hunting technique would require total silence so that its prey get mesmerized by its glowing whatchamacallit. Also factor in life in the deep dark trenches may make a fish taciturn and solitary by nature.
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I know I was being unduly picky with that Nemo question, but the CARS world in particular does bug me a bit. Why, for instance, is the natural landscape shaped like car parts? Our rocky outcrops aren't shaped like people. Okay, I'll shut up now.
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Disney handled 'living' cars in a far better way many years earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxap-M_--k
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Okay, the youtube address I included in my last message wasn't right - it just just takes you to their home page. The cartoon I was referring to in my last message was Disney's 'Susie the little blue coupe', which is worth checking out on youtube. It's a great little story.
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Sep 16, 2009 9:57:50 PM CDT
Are the gothu-loli cars from "Tokyo Mater" going to be in this?
by anna valerious
That would so make my day...
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