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Pixar, Marvel And Edgar Wright Joining Forces For ANT-MAN? Would You Settle For Two Out Of Three?
Beaks here...
Entertainment Weekly got geek hearts racing this week when they reported that Pixar, in the wake of the holy Disney/Marvel union, wanted to get involved with Edgar Wright's ANT-MAN. Though the ink's barely dry on this monumental media merger, something about this didn't sound like complete bullshit. Given that it's hard to think of two more precisely-structured narratives this decade than SHAUN OF THE DEAD and... well, take your pick from Pixar's oeuvre (save for CARS), why wouldn't Pixar be hot to get in the Edgar Wright business?
Not content to accept EW's idle speculation, CHUD's Devin Faraci fired off an email to Mr. Wright, and received an almost unequivocal denial. Here's the salient 'graph:
The news that Pixar is involved is not wholly accurate and a little premature to comment on. I love Pixar's work more than anyone and indeed would love to collaborate with them.
So this is nearly unfounded! It's mostly not true! EW's three-quarters full of shit (give or take)!
As for whether Wright's holding something back, he clarified via Twitter that he's "... duty bound to keep it at least 30 percent vague. People have to speculate on something. It's the law!" But this much is certain: Wright is committed to a live-action ANT-MAN. And he intends to jump back into the scripting process once he's further down the road on SCOTT PILGRIM VS. THE WORLD. So whether or not Pixar gets involved, we win.
For more on the status of ANT-MAN, read Faraci's post. Or just sign up for Twitter, since that's where all the news is being broken nowadays.
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Inside joke to see if he's reading. It's a hell of lot better than shouting FIRST!!!!
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Now that would be unexpected in a Pixar film.
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I hear a lot of people dumping on it (I was one) but my kid loves it so I've seen it 100 times, and it's actually pretty damn good. Even now I can sit down and watch it for the 101st time and still find things to like. Underrated.
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My idea for an ANT-MAN movie has always been an Albee-esque portrait of marital discord in which Henry is generally too busy getting soused and knocking Janet around to discover Pym Particles. I maintain that this is the only way to move forward with absolute integrity. Wright may disagree.
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Sep 09, 2009 6:23:10 PM CDT
I'D RATHER SEE WRIGHT FINISH THE BLOOD & ICECREAM TRILOGY WITH P
by carlthormark1978
Just after he wraps up Scott Pilgrim. BTW, we haven't had a video from Edgar in quite some time.
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Sep 09, 2009 6:25:39 PM CDT
Ant-Man??? The Law of Diminishing Returns on superhero
by zombieheathledger
movies is in full effect.
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Gotta have Hank and Janet if you're gonna do Avengers right... then feature-length "Don't"! It needs to happen.
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How's Canada?
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Ant-Man: He's got the strength of a full-sized human!!!!
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I'm with jimmy - Cars is not a bad movie. Just a bit bland and boring (slow moving) compared to other Pixar films. Not every Pixar film is going to be a homerun. Cars and Bugs Life, which everyone always seems to forget about, are both solid stand up triples. Certainly far better than animated dreck that other studios put out.
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Buy back all their licenses from Fox, Sony and Universal so we can get some real fucking movies made for a change.
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...make him a hero but have him have to put up with all the bullshit lack of respect that he gets: like all those Aquaman gags we see now. Ant-Man's humor shouldn't be snappy comebacks, but that he never forgets a slight and waits for the ideal moment to stick the revenge knife in. This will play well in "The Avengers" when Tony Stark cracks wise about him and when Ant-Man inevitably rescues him from some conundrum, Iron Man gets some kind of comeuppance. Give me Iron Man, Ant-Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America in one film? Very exciting!
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but y'know, with talking cars.
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Pixar gets the rights to Mario Brothers.
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would seriously just go the fuck to sleep until said time in which they have requested to be woken, this place would be so much nicer. Or they could just kill themselves. That would be acceptable as well.
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and did when it came out....not exactly a news flash that only you knew.
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And a cartoon would go direct to video. A Pixar rendition makes perfect sense. I say bring it.
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Oh wait, thought it was the Dr. Paul Entmann movie I've been waiting for.
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So something's still being negotiated...
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...simply because Ant-Man just shrinks to ant size and mentally controls ants which is kinda lame and I fn hate ants! Atom meanwhile, can shrink down to sub-atomic size and ride along an electron stream to a villain's phone then pop out of the receiver and punch him in the jaw... which is just too cool!
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It may or may not be news!
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And was all the lesser film because of it! Seriously, I saw Doc H in HD a few months ago, and man, what a f-ing HOT nude scene that is...BOING!
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Seriously. All of this is premature. And not a lot of it makes sense yet: The next 5 years of Marvel films will neither be produced or are going to be distibuted by Disney...Yet they bought the characters/company. Nor can they touch "Spider-Man", "Fantastic-Four", "Daredevil", "X-Men" (et al) - That's all Sony and Fox - And if those people keep "re-making/imagining/booting" these properties they will not revert to Marvel, and thus Disney. IN SUM: WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE? Disney did NOT just pay 8.4 Bill. for fucking Ant-Man and a few thousand other minor characters. I'm half certain they don't know what they (Disney or Marvel) are going to do! And P.S. I just lost ANY HOPE for a decent "Dr. Strange" film.
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When you think about Hank Pym is so insecure a Pixar film wouldn't be too bad an idea. Still, one of my favorite suggestions is from the CHUD guys about using "Damage Control." I've never read it but that is a terrific idea....construction would be booming in the Marvel universe. Hell, in the Ultimates universe they rebuilt New York City in six months.
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I hadn't thought about Matinee in years!
Woman: If you could only listen to the man in you and put the insect aside...
Bill (alarmed): Insecticide?! Where?!
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A superhero name I've heard 1,000 times. Couldn't tell you what the fuck he looks like/what his superpower is. Enlighten me, friendos.
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Already cover this material?
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Whoever makes it, there ought to be some shots of shrinking/growing where the actor is not changing size, but the environment around him.. as if the camera is growing/shrinking with the character. Have not seen anything like that before, could be quite the mindblowing effect.
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This is from Wikipedia regarding one of the incarnations of the Ant-Man costume donners:
"Using a gaseous form of "Pym particles" kept in a compartment in his belt, Ant-Man had the power to shrink himself (and other people and objects along with himself) to the size of an ant and return to normal. His cybernetic helmet allowed rudimentary telepathic communication with insects, and was equipped with sound amplification equipment allowing normal-sized humans to hear him. The helmet also had a retractable plexiglass face shield and a limited air supply. When wearing the suit, he could lift more than 4 times his weight. Scott required exposure to the "reducing gas" and "enlarging gas" in order to change size. "Pym particles" were created by the original Ant-Man, Dr. Hank Pym.
Scott could also shrink to sub-microscopic size, and thereby enter the countless "subatomic universes".
He had advanced training and expertise in electronics, and earned an electronics technician certificate, plus additional advanced electronics training while in prison." -
thanks, Sin.
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People bitch about Green lantern, Wonder Woman and so on. They whine because as non fans, they think the movies won't work or are potentially boring. Ant-man is the dumbest fucking bullshit character in the history of comics. Stupid character, idiotic powers. So bad, SNL devoted a number of skit lines to it. What a fucking joke of a movie idea. Marvel skipped over REAL characters like Nova, Mar-Vell, Silver Surfer, The Vision, Power man, just to name a few. Ant man? Kiss my ass. Not to the left. Not to the right, but in the GROOVE!
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I really don't think Ant-Man outside of his medicore movie that will come out eventually will remotely have a worthwhile role in the actual Avengers flick. I see them putting him in the very back back near pitch back background and have a few two bit parts then he's at most a voice over an intercom.
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O'Grady for life. You make THAT movie and I will cry tears of joy forever.
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I can deal with ant-man (wasn't he giant man and wasp at one point?) in the context of an Avengers film. NO WAY can he carry one himself. If that were true: make a movie out of DC/legion's "Bouncing boy" or alpha flights "Puck: the movie"
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Sep 09, 2009 8:00:03 PM CDT
Silver Surfer was in that shitty 'Fantastic Four' sequel.
by cheyne_stoking_dms
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Weirdo cross-dresser.
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You can't look me in the eye and honestly say you wouldn't tune in to see a midget superhero in a black speedo with a big ass P on his chest beat the shit out of guys for two hours. If you can, you're just not human my friend.
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...must be a Canadian thing. If you include sasquatch, vindicator and the rest, my ass will be in the seat under a tub of popcorn.
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But I'll pay anything to see a midget star in an action movie. ANYTHING.
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Terror in tiny town. An all midget western.
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But you just know it'd be some assy comedy where Alpha Flight are jokes the entire time until they get to rise up and defeat a lame villain who's somehow gotten ahold of a device to make himself all powerful or threaten the world at large.
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You are my new best friend, thank you.
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...is how badass a Puck movie would be. Here's the lowdown on Puck, and why this would be the greatest achievement in the history of mankind for those of you who aren't blessed enough with this knowledge. Puck is an ordinary canadian man: hairy, surly, drunk a lot. I forget how exactly, but somehow he gets cut by a mystical sword or something. Does he get hurt or die? PUCK NO! (This shit writes itself) It turns him into a midget with super strength (Why? Fuck you, that's why. I mean, Puck you). Then he decides to wear an all-black spandex outfit except with his hairy shins and forearms exposed, and a big ass P on the front. And he smokes a shit ton of cigars and is friends with Wolverine somehow, who cares the kids love Wolverine. Explosions, sex, blood, roll credits. And the movie poster taglines are nothing but various phrases that have Fuck in them replaced with Puck. 'Puck Off', 'Go Puck Yourself', 'Puck'd Up' (we're going hard R). I'll take my millions of dollars in mercury dimes, thanks.
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O'Grady is a great character but I just don't think he would work. Go with the whole Scott Lang steals the suit in order to pay for the daughters heart problems and Hank as the nerdy scientist who has to learn to be a hero in order to go after him. Lang can be discovered by the masters of evil and blackmailed into working for them and pym and he can team up to stop them. The Wrecking Crew would work as well.
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You're probably right Saint. I just always thought of Pym as a bit too bland to carry his own movie. And as great as an Irredeemable Ant-Man movie would be, it wouldn't be the sort of thing that'd sell well. The Lang angle would totally work.
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No seriously. Ant-Man is so whacked out it works better as a movie than a comic. For to long with treated the concept of people with powers and costumes way to seriously; Ant-Man has the potential to point out just how fucking dumb flying aliens, vigilantes dressed as bats, kids who shoot webs and alien power rings that let you make green boxing gloves really are. Plus he is every fifties sci-fi movie rolled into one:
A guy who shrinks (The Incredibly Shrinking Man) who learns to control ants (THEM! - at least by his perspective) and then comes up with a growth formula (The Amazing Colossal Man). He even fought aliens. He is EVERYTHING you want in an absurd superhero times 10.
Fuck, even his partner is a girl that can shrink called the Wasp and his arch-foe is Egghead, a brilliant scientist with an egg-shaped dome. How can you not want to see this for the corny, cheesy goodness it provides? -
As the modern version of Batman: The TV series. Would you rather they take an A-list like Superman or Batman, or even a B-lister like Flash or Iron Man, and make a campy parody of the genre, or take someone like Ant-Man who just screams to be used this way.
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aren't ordinary and canadian kind of redundant?
I remember reading Alpha Flight (perhaps the gayest ((nothing wrong with gays)) super hero team name ever - I think it was between this and cirque de super heros) when John Byrne was doing the art work - I think it was his idea, but I could be wrong. In any event, I wanted to like it, but it really wasn't very good. Puck was a smaller, more canadian version of wolverine - clawless, smaller, more drunk, less threatening, etc. It was like the public said "canadians are tough and cool - like wolverine." and the writers responded "no - you weren't listening...I said Caaaaanaaaadian - not cool at all. Y'know, drunken, never-really-contributed-much-of-anything-to-civilization tundrabillies from the icy wastelands". So imagine Danny Devito in a little spandex outfit and, yeah, there is your super hero for the new century. Plot of the first movie - his arch nemesis is his liver and, just when you think he is doomed, his brave companion "government assistant health care" guy steps in to save his sad, sad life and return him to the trailer park of justice. And scene...
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ants are ugly (plz dont attack me)
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I always liked Hank Pym. First, he had a hot wife, like Vision (and Vision was a robot - how cool was that? Green and red with a cape and a big jewel embedded in his head and bangin' the Scarlett Witch? OMG WTF?). Second, the guy was completely unstable and created new identities. I remember thinking it was cool that one member of the Avengers was creative enough to come up with a new persona and powers. I could see him sauntering into the Mansion and being all - "really? still the Hulk...with the rage and the stretchy purple pants? Doesn't that get...I don't know...stale? Since I got this Yellowjacket thing going, it's like a whole new lease on life...espresso?"
And also, keep Pixar out. Pixar will fill an Ant Man movie with sight gags and life lessons and family friendly bullshit. They will ruin an interesting character for generations so Disney can sell some shitty micronauts knock-offs. As my gay, Tolkein-loving friends say "'tis so - 'twill be lame". -
Sep 09, 2009 9:17:08 PM CDT
Man, I must be the only guys here who like Alpha Flight and Puck
by continentalop
I hated when Bill Mantlo changed him from an actual dwarf into a 7 foot guy turned into a dwarf. Talk about fucking condescending.
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"The Dr Pym Journals 1: Ant-Man". Sequels: Yellow Jacket, Goliath, Wasp. In Avengers the Movie he will be Giant-Man.
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Because he is the most insecure hero ever.
But no, he is still overshadowed by his teammates, and even his partner the Wasp gets more attention than he does. So he comes up with a new super-hero identity, Yellowjacket, whose powers are based on his partners, meaning he is trying to imitate the Wasp because he feels so insecure next to her. Holy immasculation Ant-Man.
Even later he has nervous breakdowns, hits his wife, goes to prison, until he finally accepts that he is just accepts himself as Hank Pym.
Fucking Hank Pym is the perfect metaphor for the modern, insecure man. He is Wily Loman of the super-hero set. -
He first becomes Ant-Man, a hero who gets smaller and less noticeable (and one of his villains death traps fro him is a bath tub) and controls ants. He then gets a female partner/love interest in the Wasp, and when he joins the Avengers he feels even more insecure, overshadowed by Thor, Iron Man and Hulk (and Janet doesn't help, hitting on Thor and Tony Stark). So he creates a growth potion and becomes Giant-Man, then Goliath, hoping his giant size will compensate.
But no, he is still overshadowed by his teammates, and even his partner the Wasp gets more attention than he does. So he comes up with a new super-hero identity, Yellowjacket, whose powers are based on his partners, meaning he is trying to imitate the Wasp because he feels so insecure next to her. Holy immasculation Ant-Man.
Even later he has nervous breakdowns, hits his wife, goes to prison, until he finally accepts that he is just accepts himself as Hank Pym.
Fucking Hank Pym is the perfect metaphor for the modern, insecure man. He is Wily Loman of the super-hero set. -
And name too. Yellow jacket and wasp int eh avengers please. DO NOT have Giant Man.
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I miss "The Bacon."
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If he'd just use the Pym Particles on his unit he'd be a hit at parties. "You wanna see Goliath? I got your Goliath RIGHT HERE!"
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[Wilhelm Scream]
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I think he would do well is they did him as a parody. The wasp/giant man concepts were cool, and I liked the costumes (especially done by Alex Ross). But really, I could not keep a straight face and go see a serious movies based on ant man. In fact, I hope Pym is giant man or secondarily, Wasp in the avengers movie. I hate ant man, and everything about it with a passion.
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Would be him working on a new formula and the Wasp comes back from shopping to suddenly see a giant leg crash through the wall and GI-Ant man stuck inside the house.
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Sep 09, 2009 10:57:26 PM CDT
Lastof theV8Intercetors, the fact that he uses a "Growth Serum"
by continentalop
Is a sure sign of his insecurity. He is like the guys who order those penis enlargement pills on the TV - just ordering one is a sign you are insecure.
Well, making a giant growth formula is Extenze Male Enhancement times 1,000 - he is really insecure to have to want to make that. And just because it worked doesn't mean he is over his insecurity. John Holmes had a huge cock and the guy felt insecure and inadequate. Hank Pym, with his Goliath johnson, just feels like a fraud.
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And I'm all like, "Whatever."
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Rick Moranis as Hank Pym. Really though people need to prepare for the fact that Disney is going to make some of these characters G rated. They can have Ant-Man. Lets see a Hawkeye/Mockingbird movie.
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How very Monty Python of you....
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Sep 09, 2009 11:23:04 PM CDT
Antman is badass! he can kill any supervillain if he wanted to
by peopleintrees
you all know this to be true
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This is like reading "Pravda" to get news on the Cuban Missile Crisis. Fuck that shit, comrade.
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With John Carter of Mars as their first live action (with heavy CG) feature. It is entirely possible for "Pixar" to make this film with Edgar Wright as the director.
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If we can't get the dream team of Verhoeven/Neumeier, we'd do fine with Robert Rodriguez producing and Wright shooting the thing at Troublemaker Studios. Too bad it's in the hands of Alex Garland, who probably handed them a raggedy package of script pages he ripped out of Blade Runner and Robocop.
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Mix of action and comedy would go down well on Ant Man.
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Sep 09, 2009 11:53:56 PM CDT
And can we also get Bill motherfuckin' Pope on this thing
by flynn_lives
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Arnett would be a good Pym.
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It's the only way you'll ever see MODOK on the screen.
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And see Modok punted into the upper atmosphere by Gladiator....
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Now, THAT'S the worst character in comic book history. I don't think even a Pixar treatment (ala Finding Nemo) could make that asshole, Namor, palatable for mass audiences.
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Let's see, he's done a Zombie satire that was also just an awesome zombie movie and an action send-up that was an awesome action movie...
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what are those? How do those assist in swimming? Is that where Captain America got the idea for his head wings? Why does Cap need those head wings? Is it purely decorative? Is it a flourish he thought up himself or did he get that from the guys at Shield?
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Would love to see MODOK.. he looked so sad when the Kirby Cap broke him and he's lying on the floor. My Marvel dream movie that I'll never see is Tomb of Dracula.. rated R... set in 70's.. with the REAL Blade. The smoove John Shaft ripoff Blade.
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It's a fucking good movie. its everything a Pixar movie should be. Tightly scripted, beautifully paced, good jokes, great characters, heartfelt sentiments. If it was made by anyone but Pixar, motherfuckers would be calling it the movie that out-Pixar's Pixar. if anyone wants to argue otherwise, please feel welcome, but please provide reasons other than "Cars don't have eyes! Or tongues! HATE! BLAAAAAARGH!"
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Or maybe more accurately, The Scorpion King underwater. Lots of big, expensive CGI sea monsters. Look at Van Helsing or The Chronicles of Riddick and it's easy to imagine Universal making it. Unfortunately, the only really interesting things Namor ever does are invade the land to beat up the other Marvel characters or invade the land to to send Reed and Sue Richards back into marriage counseling.
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I'd see any film Wright makes regardless, but The Adam and Joe Show was one of my favourite shows back in the day and the idea of one of them doing a superhero movie tickles me immensely
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..can be a cool SciFi movie....if they dont fuck it up. It can also introduce us to Wasp and Ultron.
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Sep 10, 2009 1:17:14 AM CDT
Screw that! Where's movie about CARPET MAN from The Tick??
by gibsonusa returns
He rubs against the ground and attacks with static electricity. Greatness.
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On Sub-Mariner's feet and Cap's head. They were added not for logical reasons but for completely aesthetic, visual reasons. They were made as comic book characters - for kids - winged feet and wings on your helmet (especially for a patriotic hero like Cap) was and is an interesting look.
Man, realism and logic is the antithesis of a comic book character. If you start to get all picky about superhero characters, none of them will stand up to any sort of criticism (and that includes the most "realistic" one of them all, Batman). -
The original anti-hero. Kills two divers by crushing their heads in his very first appearance, and later flooded NY. Fucking awesome.
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.. moody and unpredictable... and crazy strong. Had some interesting villains too. I thought Tigershark looked pretty freakin' cool when I was a lad.
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It would be cool to see a hot blue chick up on a movie screen instead of just in my walk-in freezer.
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A Pixar Tick movie is better. Make this happen.
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...take it a step further: Set Ant-Man in the 1950's and just throw in every goofball, low budget 50's sci-fi horror movie into one big insane mix... Incredible Shrinking Man, Them!, etc. Basically a melange of every movie wherein insects grew gigantic, people shrank and enlarged and the world was saved by a pipe-smoking scientist and his useless, overly prissy girlfriend.
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characters for movies. Would love to see the Demon, Challengers of the Unknown, the Atom, or a JSA movie (set in WW II).
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He flies with them.
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Sep 10, 2009 6:13:13 AM CDT
Adamantium was mentioned in the old FORBIDDEN PLANET
by zombieheathledger
I watched it the other day and I couldn't believe it when I heard the old scientist say "adamantium." So that's where they got it. Even though they had Stryker say he came up with the name in WOLVERINE.
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I NEEEED to see him in a movie. A big, baby-looking giant head on a tiny body... So sad, so beautiful.RE: Cap's Wings - You could argue that it links to viking mythology, but why an American WWII icon would reference norse mythology is beyond me. Regardless, it's awesome. But I like Asterix, so there you go.
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bouahahaha.thats even worse than the news about an aquaman movie.i mean really,who gives a fuck about an ant-man movie?
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i find it totally ludicrous that in the comics,the other characters never forget to remind and criticize Pym for hitting his wife.Even if Pym when he did it,he had some personal problems,was drunk and smacked her just once.
But on the other hand,everyone seems very forgiving and apologist for Phoenix/Jean Grey.you know the bitch who has killed billions of people,and doesnt seem to just fucking stay dead.
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I think Greek mythology probably played a bigger part, especially Hermes/Mercury (who also probably inspired Sub-Mariner's winged feet and the original Flash's helmet).
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because "Phoenix" turned out to not really be her.
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in fact he really loves his wife and regretted for what he did,but that didnt stop the other 'sensitive' hypocrites to bring up this matter all the time.even if a fucking funeral,they mentioned this incident in his face.jesus.
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Sep 10, 2009 7:00:17 AM CDT
Don't You Mean UNholy Disney/Marvel Union?
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
Something wicked this way comes . . . Disney bought marvel to reach out to the younger male ratio that've been lacking. Uh . . . I don't know many kids or teens reading comics. It maybe a "kids" medium but there are no kids involved. A lot of nerdy thirt year olds but no kids.
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Wolverine slicing and dicing dozens is ok. So is Reed Richards saving the life of Galactus, and then him going off to eat the Skrull Throne World or Sub-Mariner flooding NY.
Reminds me in DC when the other super-villains got upset because Dr. Light was with them. Mass murderers like the Joker or genocidal conquerors like Gorilla Grodd are ok, but a rapist like Dr. Light? Now you're crossing a line. -
after all Pym created him.in fact i would love to watch ulton in an Iron Man sequel,or even better in an avengers movie.but instead we get ant-man whose worst enemy is the bugspray.jeevis.
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The guy is just perfect to poke fun at how serious and pretentious super-hero movies have become. And the fact that the same character who is parodying Super-Hero movies might then guest star of co-star in them is just awesome.
Plus, I find the idea of Ant-Man might more exciting than Thor or Captain America or even the Avengers (or any of the DC properties). All those characters are to high on a pedestal and will be bland or straight forward super-hero movies. Ant-Man actually could be subversive. -
Evil robot who has an Oedipus complex with his "father" (Pym) over his "mother" (Janet Van Dyne). I would actually be interested in seeing that on screen, unlike most super-hero stories.
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Who gives a rats furry ass about a fella that can shrink himself and control ants...geez...a five year old could take him out with a magnifying glass.
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DC discontinued the series,because they thought the scene where the super villain has a hamster tied with tape,inside his pants,was too offensive.Ofc that was just an excuse,the real reason was the way Ennis treated DC's famous characters,with his ripoff creations.I mean a superhero resembling Superman,who extorts a woman in order to get him a blowjob,isnt something DC would like to publish.hypocrites.
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like someone else said.that would have indeed rock.but after the failure of 8 legged freaks and Evolution,i dont think they will ever try that route.
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But I do find that hypocritical. Both companies are hypocritical, even the mainstream heroes.
One thing that always drove me nuts is how a psychopath like Norman Osborn could kill Gwen Stacy and how he can come back because he is a super-villain but she can never come back. The idea of paying the consequences or crime doesn't pay does not exist in a comic book universe. As long as your flashy and exciting like the Green Goblin or the Joker you can kill thousands and you're always guaranteed to return.
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But you make obvious references to the sci-fi movies of the 50s & 60s (and the old Batman TV show.
Like I said earlier, I think Ant-Man would work in a movie as satire because he is such a great metaphor for an insecure man: most superheroes get powers that make them appear bigger and more dynamic - he actually diminishes and gets more visually insignificant! He becomes an even "bigger" underdog. And he controls ants, which are basically pest and inconveniences.
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Him and Cyclops are the two super guys, who look like typical boyscout heroes but inside are way more messed up than the "look at me, I'M DARK AND EDGY!!! RRRRGGGGHHHHH!" Wolverine and co.
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Having Ant Man and the Wasp in the Avengers movie would be insect character overkill...now if he was Giant Man instead like in the Ultimate Avengers...that might work.
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what was his name? twister or something?
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...how about a PIXAR Starlord movie? - there are way enough B-List heroes to make a few dollars out of. Warlock, Deathlok, Alpha Flight, Hawkeye, Moonknight...bring them on!
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Disney did the "trapped in an ant-hill" thing years ago.
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Who was, I think, named for a golden age Timely/Marvel hero.
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It's always some guy who is chron-NO-logically an adult with a serious objection to a talking car cartoon.There is a precedence, from the great French film critics turn auteurs: "Eggcep foah ZLEEPIN BEW-TEE, Disnay's cinema..."
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no need to dump on CARS. It's not typical Pixar, but in this case that's not a bad thing at all. It stands on its own just fine, and I predict classic status for it one day.
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Jeez, I liked pym when he was YJ.Ant-Man hasn't been cool since the old Lee Kirby Avengers stories. No thanks.
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"From the makers of Steel and Meteor Man" "He's 50 ft tall, and will stomp y'all".Starring Shaquelle o' neil ("stiltman, how does my ass taste"?)
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Word. Regardless, I want feathers on Cap.
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And making a non-Avengers Ant-Man movie kind of feels like making a stand-alone Colossus movie... I'm not sure the character warrants a one-shot, and if they go with a satirical tone for the Wright film, and it doesn't transfer to the Avengers movie, things could get confusing, no?
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No, I'm down here. DOWN HERE!
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You know it's coming.
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Who cares, Hank Oym doesn't even care that's why he has been Giant Man, Yellow Jacket and now the Wasp. The Disney/Marvel press release boasted 5000+ character to exploit so why pick such a lame one?
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that they cast the same guy as Hank Pym in the Avengers film. It might be better to have Hank Pym be a minor character in Ant-Man, but focus on the 2nd guy (Scott) or the current weasel in the comics, who'd be even funnier, since he's a lovable douchebag.
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all this milkage is getting tiring. And it's sad news to hear DC is slowly following suit. But still, I'm excited for any Edgar Wright film. Even that one with the irritating Michael Cera.
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Not every single Marvel movie has to be slammed into live-action-potentially-Avengers-franchise mold. Just give it to Pixar and let them run with it. I love Spaced and Shaun of the Dead, but Hot Fuzz was a step down. And now he's doing a movie with the horribly overexposed George Michael Bluth. So, yeah, burn those bridges and give it to Pixar. Brad Bird, please. Or Andrew Stanton. He'll work too.
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Sep 10, 2009 12:29:09 PM CDT
Actually, it's fine to hate CARS because it is not a good movie
by tall_boy66
Esp. when you compare it to the rest of Pixar's output. The talking cars is goofy and stupid and doesn't work. There an automatic disconnect when you try to make them anthropomorphic which simply doesn't fly. It has Larry the Cable Guy as a main character. There is no emotional through-line that hooks you into the film like other Pixar movies (aside from the didactic bit about "country folks are more realistic than city folk"). It has Paul Newman's voice doing this really lame sage voiceover job of the lame and sage old man who is lame and sage. It has a joke about a TRAMP STAMP ON A CAR. It has Larry the Cable Guy as a MAIN CHARACTER (that had to be stated twice). And one of those Gat-damn wilsons doing a voice. But, mostly, it is Not. Original. A dire, dire sin when it comes to Pixar's incredibly imaginative and unique output of films. So, in the end, why do people hate Cars? Because it stinks. That's why.
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I am fairly certain that Wright has spilled the details over the years that his intent has been to have two Ant-Men: Hank Pym in the 60s, Scott Lang in present day. He wants the original design with the "diving bell" helmet in there somewhere. I'm sure the Marvel producers are working with him on the details of what the 60s look like in the Marvel movies, since the "past" is largely a blank slate. We'll see the 70s in Iron Man 2, WWII in Captain America. It's piecemeal and it has to be handled carefully to get an end result that's both coherent, populated with characters and ideas in all time periods, and open to insertion of new characters without the need for messy revisions. The Captain America script, for example, had better leave space for more WWII flashbacks in the future. It'll be a mess if it's the "entire" Captain America story up until he's frozen.
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accurate to the actual character and his history in the books. The only people who find him lame are meathead preteens and older manboys without imaginations, who have crushes on Venom and The Punisher and Lobo over at DC. You know, the sort that always puzzled you why they are into comics and genre entertainment, in the first place?
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excel at CG smoke and mirrors, but everything they've done has been highly derivative. Somebody please bankroll true animation geniuses, such as Genndy and his cohorts.
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It's completely plausible that he could direct one of these Marvel projects in the future.
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But he would later change it to Whirlwind and wear the funkiest green helmet ever.
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I was forced to watch it thanks to my roommate, tried to get into it but... It's like these PARODY MOVIES everybody's hating on. LOOK, THIS IS FROM ROBOCOP! LOOK THIS IS FROM SHINING! ISNT'T HAT HILLARIOUS! WE'VE SEEN A MOVIE YOU'VE SEEN TOO! Placing well known scenes into everyday situations. Bleh. Sean of the Dead however - placing everyday characters into an well known movie scenes - works perfectly.
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I think a stand alone Ant-Man movie works. First off, unlike Colossus, he isn't a mutant so you can't just conveniently use that to explain his origin. His origin is a little more complex.
Secondly, as I mentioned above a couple of times, his character is directly out of the 50s & early 60s Sci-Fi world of comics and movies. He is a descendent of the Incredible Shrinking Man, THEM!, The Amazing Colossus Man, The Fly (his origin story was the scientist having an accident with his experiment), The Wasp Woman, and about a dozen others. To me that is great material to mine.
And finally, I think a satirical tone fits in with anything. One thing I like about Wright is that he plays most of his comedy straight, or has a straight man in the mix. Shaun of the Dead was a serious zombie movie with a bunch of knuckleheads in the leads; Hot Fuzz was a cop buddy movie parody but Simon Pegg was completely straight. You could have taken his character and pretty much dropped him off in Lethal Weapon and Point Break and he would have fit with his hard nose attitude. Hank Pym (or whomever is Ant-Man) could still function as an Avenger, although as more of a comic relief character on the team. But if you have Asgardians, Iron Men and Super Soldiers, you should be able to fit in a sci-fi comic relief character.
And as Woody Allen has proved (can't believe I am bringing him up in a conversation about Ant-Man) sometimes the best comedy can also turn serious or tragic. You want people to care about Hank Pym before his tragic fall, make his a likable comic relief character - imagine if Leo from Lethal Weapon had died, or if Michael Anthony Hall's character in Sixteen Candles became addicted to drugs, everyone would be a lot more moved by what happens to them than anyone else IMO. -
If you sat through Spaced and just thought "Gee, this whole thing is just parodies" then you simply haven't watched the thing. Simon Pegg explaining why he's pissed off and is playing Tomb Raider explicitly for the purpose of drowning Laura Croft, for one. Try watching DISASTER MOVIE and then an episode of Spaced and you can clearly tell the difference.
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He didn'r appear until Pym turned into Giant Man. For Ant Man villains you have to look to Egghead, The Destructor and my all-time favorite, The Scarlet Beetle, a gigantic, malevolent cockroach.
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And my all time favorite - the Porcupine.
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Count me in if they do Rob Kirkman's version of Antman - kind of a jerk who uses his powers to watch girls shower. (C'mon, we all know that's what we'd do if we had that power - fight crime my a$$).
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Sometimes an a-hole is just an a-hole. Besides, I'd be too afraid I'd slip and go down the drain.
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The Porcupine met Ant-Man in issue 48 of Tales to Astonish. Pym didn't become Giant-Man until the next issue, no. 49. He would meet the Porcupine as Giant-Man in issue 53.
Cookylamoo, don't argue with a man who owns ESSENTIAL ANT-MAN. -
We already know they are startign with live action. They are certainly world-renowned artisans. I'm sure Disney would love to stop going to WETA to do their CGI effects. Kind of makes sense that Pixar could branch out into this field. Ant-Man would be the perfect first project.
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Should work.
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Well okay you share some of the same brain waves....
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You have attracted vermin. I think I saw Seth Rogen and Jonah Hill lurking around this talkback.
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I remember him in that whacky green suit w/ the big red Charlie Brown zigzag around the waist. Yes indeedie those whacky Marvel guys from the 70's. (Yes I'm aware of Avengers #9 or 8, whatever it was, Baron Zemo etc from '64 and all that...)
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if you didn't read that very short run, you should check it out. It was similar to Deadpool. This Ant-Man used his powers to rip people off and spy on chicks taking a shower. He even boned his dead friend's vulnerable girlfriend. Since he stole the suit from the dead friend, he didn't know how to use it. Think Greatest American Hero. It was my favorite book by far over its run. Total shame it didn't last. As far as I'm concerned, THAT'S the Ant-Man they should make. It would be totally unique. Ok Hancock tread some similar ground, but otherwise we've never seen a superhero like this version of Pym.
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Although I don't really have Comic Book Guys build, I am actually in decent shape. And I am much more willing to accept other people's opinions.
I am angry and bitter like Moe Slyzlak... -
Started wearing an red jump suit with lots of pockets, and then went to a muscle t with a big W on it. He also died and came back a couple of times...
Who says comics aren't realistic. -
I guess I agree with cookylamoo over you FETT, I find Kirkman's version of Ant-Man to be annoying and just a cheap gimmick. Watching an amoral cad with powers do a bunch of dickish things seems really childish and immature (and that is saying a lot considering we are talking about Ant-Man).
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Been forever since I read that stuff.. didn't he have something to do with Vision? Genetics or brain patterns or some such?
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